<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Them Before Us</title><link>https://afr.net/podcasts/them-before-us/</link><atom:link href="https://afr.net/api/v2/podcast/podcastsbyidrss/?id=82861" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><language>en-us</language><copyright>Copyright (c)2009-2026 AFA.net. All rights reserved.</copyright><itunes:subtitle>A publication of American Family Association / American Family Radio</itunes:subtitle><itunes:author>American Family Association</itunes:author><itunes:summary>Them Before Us radio, hosted by Katy Faust, can be heard each Saturday and Sunday at 3:00-4:00PM CDT on American Family Radio. Throughout the hour, you'll hear thought-provoking interviews, analysis of trending news, and biblical-rubber-meets-the-cultural-road insights- all focused on safeguarding the rights and well-being of children. </itunes:summary><description>Them Before Us radio, hosted by Katy Faust, can be heard each Saturday and Sunday at 3:00-4:00PM CDT on American Family Radio. Throughout the hour, you'll hear thought-provoking interviews, analysis of trending news, and biblical-rubber-meets-the-cultural-road insights- all focused on safeguarding the rights and well-being of children. </description><itunes:owner><itunes:name>American Family Association</itunes:name><itunes:email>afadeveloper@gmail.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><itunes:category text="Kids &amp; Family" /><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture" /><itunes:category text="News" /><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><item><id>91275</id><title>88 Why Red States are Better at Marriage and Kids</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Jenn talk about the Trump administrations rollback of Biden-era transgender policies, why the red states are outpacing blue when it comes to marriage and kids, the dating crisis and what to do about it and then Sam joins Jenn to talk about the concept of "mental load" that has some wives complaining on social media.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260412.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260412.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>91183</id><title>87 SCOTUS Win for Christian Counseling and a Commentator Under Fire for Promoting Marriage and Family</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Josh starts off the episode with a Holy Week devotional and a very interesting observation about Jesus' last words. Then Katy and Josh talk about Daily Wire's Isabel Brown being attacked by the ladies of The View for promoting marriage and family, and the SCOTUS decision allowing Christian counselors the freedom to offer talk therapy to those who struggle with gender or sexual identity issues. Find more resources from TBU at thembeforeus.substack.com.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260405.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260405.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>90982</id><title>86 The Death of the Overpopulation Lie &amp; The Only Fans "Sin Tax"</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Josh discuss the death of Paul Ehrlich, author of The Population Bomb, who proposed many wrong ideas about having kids and continuing the next generation, a new GOP candidate who wants to tax "Only Fans" for degeneracy, and the reality of frozen embryos and their likelihood of survival.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260329.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260329.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>90978</id><title>85 Corporations Funding Harm to Children &amp; Another Surrogacy Scandal</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>TBU has launched its response to the Human Rights Campaign's annual "Corporate Equality Index," and Katy and Josh talk about how the biggest businesses in the country are funding harm to children. Then they talk about the latest surrogacy scandal shared on Reddit and why the culture is now trying to make poly-relationships more palatable.

Learn more and get resources you need at thembeforeus.substack.com</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260322.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260322.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>90895</id><title>84  James Talarico, the Wolf in Sheep's Clothing &amp; another IVF "Mix-up" with human lives</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Josh return to examine the Left’s newest “Christian” darling and his strange claims about the faith, asking whether this rebranding will actually persuade believers. They also tackle the latest IVF mix-up, another reminder that children’s identities are often treated as disposable in the fertility industry. Jenn and Sam close the episode by responding to backlash against defending marriage as one man and one woman, and the criticism of amplifying adults raised by LGBT parents who are speaking honestly about the harms. 
See more from Them Before Us at our substack (thembeforeus.substack.com) and find us across all the social media for more resources!</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260315.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260315.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>90801</id><title>83 SCOTUS Rules to Protect Children and Hard Convos with an 8 Year Old</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Josh dig into the Supreme Court ruling that says California schools cannot keep secrets from parents about their child’s LGBT identity or so-called transition. Josh also shares how he talked with his daughter about abortion and we ask whether government-run health care delivers what it promises. Jenn and Sam discuss a nurse who witnessed a surrogate birth where the baby was immediately handed to two men, raising a question our culture refuses to face: why is a practice considered unethical with animals permitted with human children? Follow us on thembeforeus.substack.com for more resources to talk to your family and friends about the importance of protecting children's rights.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260308.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260308.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>90670</id><title>82 The TBU Take on the State of the Union and LGBT Parents Valuing Biology</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Josh consider Trump's mention of IVF in his State of the Union speech this week, consider the data on "hard parenting" leading to adults wanting to have fewer kids, and the reality that LGBT-identified individuals value biology so much they'll pay thousands for it, and simultaneously deny biological connections to their children. Then Jenn has a conversation with a Christian conservative satire influencer on why Christians cannot abandon the arts to the left.

Check out more of our work at TBU: thembeforeus.substack.com or give Katy a follow on her socials:
X - @katy_Faust
Facebook - @KatyFaustAuthor
Instagram - @KatyFaustOfficial</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260301.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260301.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>90594</id><title>81 Katy's Keys to Dating and her Big Fox Greater Than Interview</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Josh talk about how the advent of same-sex marriage helped put the West in the fertility crisis it finds itself in. Since marriage and having children are the keys to continuing civilization, Katy is presenting a 3-part dating series you won't want to miss. Then Jenn and Sam take on how opponents fight about the definition of marriage in our social media comments and how we can respond.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260222.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260222.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>90508</id><title>80 What's the Safest Place to Raise a Child? Considering family structure, abuse, and promoting parenthood</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>This week, Katy and Josh take on some of the loudest cultural conversations shaping modern family life — from influencers promoting divorce as a pathway to “personal happiness,” to the difficult realities surrounding abuse and what the data reveals about the safest family structure for children. Moving beyond slogans and sentimentality, they ask hard questions about what love truly requires, what children genuinely need, and whether adult desires should ever redefine a child’s right to stability. Jenn and Sam join the conversation to thoughtfully explore how motherhood is discussed in a culture that often treats it as optional, and whether the phrase “love makes a family” withstands scrutiny when a child’s long-term wellbeing is at stake. It’s a candid, clear-eyed discussion rooted in one conviction: children deserve more than cultural shortcuts.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260215.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260215.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>90422</id><title>79 Celebrity Hypocrisy and Katy's Hacked X Account</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Jenn discuss the latest in celebrity political commentary, on illegal immigration and gay marriage, showing that they don't practice what they preach to others. They discuss the Greater Than launch to retake marriage on behalf of kids and how Katy's X account was hacked by bitcoin scammers. (Listen to the end of the episode for the update on that!) Follow TBU's work at thembeforeus.substack.com and join Greater Than at greaterthancampaign.com.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260208.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260208.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>90304</id><title>78 Coalition to Retake Marriage Launches across the USA</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Jenn talk about the new Greater Than Campaign, a coalition of almost 40 of the biggest Christian and conservative organizations and thinkers across the USA. This campaign focuses on the rights of the child as the basis for restoring marriage to its rightful place as an institution protecting the rights of a child to the mother and father that created him or her. Check out greaterthancampaign.com for more information</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260201.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260201.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>90223</id><title>77 Protestors Target a Church &amp; the Resurgence of "Analog" Hobbies</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Josh and Katy open the episode with a story that made national headlines after protesters stormed a Minnesota church during Sunday worship. They ask what happens when political outrage enters sacred space and where the line should be drawn between protest and disruption. In the second segment, the conversation turns to new research showing how faith and regular church involvement strengthen marriages, especially for young couples, followed by a look at a growing cultural shift away from AI and constant screens toward analog, hands-on living. Jenn and Sam close by tackling listener questions sparked by Megan Trainor’s surrogacy post and the rising backlash, plus a viral idea about adults “co-owning” a baby, discussed candidly in Here for the Comments. </itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260125.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260125.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>90128</id><title>76 Is Them Before Us Anti-Adoption?</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Many people claim that if you're against surrogacy or donor conception because biological parents matter, then you have to be anti-adoption as well. Katy talks about her personal connection to adoption, why it matters as an institution in a justy society, and Jenn and Sam address the differences between third-party reproduction and adoption. 

Check out more of our work at TBU: thembeforeus.substack.com or give Katy a follow on her socials:
X - @advo_Katy
Facebook - @KatyFaustAuthor
Instagram - @KatyFaustOfficial
</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260118.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260118.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>90039</id><title>75 Religious Freedom Win, Cash Increasing Birth Rates, and Broken Friend Groups</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>In this episode, Katy and Jenn examine a major religious freedom victory as a federal appeals court affirms the right of a Christian homeless ministry to hire staff who share its faith. They also explore new research showing that pro-family financial policies can measurably increase birthrates—and contrast those findings with broader government-centered approaches to family support. The conversation then turns personal, unpacking the rise of toxic mom groups, social media–driven exclusion, and what healthy adult friendships should look like. Finally, Sam joins Jenn to answer questions about a heartbreaking child welfare situation and respond to criticism over asking donor-conceived people to share their stories with Them Before Us.

Check out more of our work at TBU: thembeforeus.substack.com or give Katy a follow on her socials:
X - @advo_Katy
Facebook - @KatyFaustAuthor
Instagram - @KatyFaustOfficial
</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260111.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260111.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>89938</id><title>74 The Joy of Intentional Holidays and Building Up the Next Generation</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Jenn talk about how the holidays went and the balance between intentionality vs. being too strict when it comes to celebrations. They also talk about a professor who put Harvard on blast for its anti-white male discrimination and an article on 10 things learned about motherhood while the author wrote a book on it. Then, new TBU Staffer Sam joins Jenn to go over the 12 Days of Haters comments, a light-hearted take on what to do with horrible people attacking our work on social media. 

Check out more of our work at TBU: thembeforeus.substack.com or give Katy a follow on her socials:
X - @advo_Katy
Facebook - @KatyFaustAuthor
Instagram - @KatyFaustOfficial
</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260104.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20260104.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2026 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>89818</id><title>73 Trump Admin Fixing the Chaplain Corps, U.S. House Protecting Minors from Trans-Ideology, and IVF while Dating</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy marks her husband’s return from deployment, weighs in on Pete Hegseth’s changes to the military chaplaincy, responds to the House passing a bill to criminalize the mutilation and sterilization of minors, breaks down what Hollywood consistently gets wrong about fatherhood, and answers pointed Reddit questions on surrogacy and pursuing IVF while dating.

Check out more of our work at TBU: thembeforeus.substack.com or give Katy a follow on her socials:
X - @advo_Katy
Facebook - @KatyFaustAuthor
Instagram - @KatyFaustOfficial
</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251228.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251228.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>89799</id><title>72 Chinese Billionaire uses Surrogates to Create Super Family</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Josh and Katy open the episode with a sober look at two fertility stories that raise serious questions about how children are being created and cared for today. They examine a report about a wealthy businessman using surrogacy to produce more than 100 children, along with a Florida court case involving DIY insemination, both of which show what can happen when adult desire, money, or convenience drive reproduction. The conversation then turns to marriage, reflecting on a popular essay by a woman who nearly divorced but stayed for her children, and what her story reveals about commitment and stability. The episode closes with listener questions, including candid advice about dating and a practical discussion of “bid theory” and how everyday attention shapes marriages.

Check out more of our work at TBU: thembeforeus.substack.com or give Katy a follow on her socials:
X - @advo_Katy
Facebook - @KatyFaustAuthor
Instagram - @KatyFaustOfficial
</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251221.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251221.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>89696</id><title>71 Raising Kids in the Age of AI</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Josh and Katy open the episode with a careful look at how emerging AI technologies are affecting children, especially when digital tools designed for engagement fail to protect vulnerable kids. They wrestle with what it means to put children’s safety first in a rapidly changing tech landscape and why families need guardrails that keep innovation from outrunning responsibility. In the next segment, Katy is joined by Jenn for a thoughtful conversation about marriage and parenting in today’s culture, pushing back on messages that prioritize adult self-fulfillment over children’s need for stability and lasting connection. Together, they reflect on what it looks like to parent with purpose in a distracted world and why consistent presence still matters. The episode closes with Katy and Jenn responding to listener questions about fear of marriage after divorce, setting healthy boundaries around technology at home, and raising children—especially boys—to treat others with honor and care. Get more TBU resources at our substack thembeforeus.substack.com!</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251214.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251214.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>89590</id><title>70 A Future Growing Humans In Bio Bags?</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>This week’s conversation moves from cutting-edge medical headlines to the everyday realities families are facing right now. Josh and Katy unpack research on artificial womb technology and raise important questions about protecting vulnerable babies. They also dig into new data on marriage, technology, and why young adults are struggling to build lasting families. In the Q&amp;A, Jenn and Katy speak with clarity and compassion about foster care, biological bonds, reunification, and what it means to love children well without erasing the parents God gave them. </itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251207.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251207.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>89419</id><title>69 What Are We Giving Our Children? Gratitude, Boundaries &amp; Truth</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>In today’s episode, Katy and Josh open with a reminder that gratitude is more than a holiday theme — it’s a posture shaped by faith, history, and God’s steady provision. Then in the news desk, the two tackle the rise of surrogacy in the U.K. and the ethical questions our culture keeps overlooking, followed by a deeper look at why protecting children from addictive AI is now a matter of both family and national strength. For the Q&amp;A, Jenn joins Katy to unpack real listener questions — from navigating political tension at the Thanksgiving table to finding hope in seasons of financial strain or discouragement. Through every segment, the focus remains the same: honoring God, protecting children, valuing family, and living out truth with courage and compassion. </itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251123.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251123.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>89289</id><title>68 Single Guy Seeks Surrogate and the Supreme Court Declines Same-Sex Marriage Consideration</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Josh start this week's episode with the viral post from a single man who openly said he is ready to use a surrogate to have children if he cannot find a wife, a sign of how far culture has drifted from God’s design for family. They then walk through the Supreme Court’s decision to leave the same sex marriage precedent untouched and explain why so many Christians feel the growing tension between faith and public life. The discussion continues with the troubling case of a 68-year-old woman accused of forging her husband’s signature to secure two surrogate babies, raising serious questions about consent, stability, and the well-being of the children involved. In the final segment, Katy and Josh respond to heartfelt listener questions about divorce, teen dating, and the identity struggles of stay at home moms, offering grounded and gracious wisdom for families trying to follow Christ in a confused world. </itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251116.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251116.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>89239</id><title>67 Election Updates, Anti-Adoption Responses, and why Cohabitation is Bad For Everyone</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Josh talk about the disappointing election results in cities around the country, respond to folks who say all adoption is exploitative and bad for kids, look at the data about cohabitation, and take on some listener questions about reproductive technologies and what to do with a long-time partner who changes his mind on having children.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251109.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251109.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>89098</id><title>66 Bill Gates Climate Reversal, NYC’s Socialist Mayor, and America’s Crisis of Dependence</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>From climate panic to political chaos, this week, Katy and Josh break down Bill Gates’ shocking climate reversal, the rise of an Islamic socialist in New York City, and the sobering truth about how many Americans depend on government aid. Later, Jenn joins Katy to answer tough listener questions about family, surrogacy, and how believers should approach Halloween. </itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251102.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251102.mp3</guid><pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>89005</id><title>65 Healthy Families are the Best Antidote to What Ails Our Culture</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>This week on Them Before Us Radio, we look at what it really means to live—and die—well in a culture that worships convenience. From the growing acceptance of physician-assisted death to the moral cost of the IVF boom, Katy and Josh unpack how modern “family planning” often forgets the child. Through stories of families who choose presence over autonomy and faith over fear, they remind us that human dignity begins and ends in relationships. Plus, a look at the surrogacy industry’s billion-dollar blind spot and what real compassion for women and children requires.
Learn more from Them Before us and get equipped at thembeforeus.substack.com
</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251026.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251026.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>88928</id><title>64 Peace, Power &amp; Parenthood</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>A world-changing peace deal ends a two-year war, the U.N. calls to end surrogacy worldwide, and listeners ask tough questions about fertility, family, and faith in modern life. </itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251019.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251019.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>88791</id><title>63 First Female Archbishop, New Abortion Pill, &amp; and Tax Dollars for Trans Surgeries</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>This week on TBU Radio, Katy and Josh explore women in church leadership, the moral implications of the FDA approving a new abortion pill, and how our tax dollars are funding gender mutilation surgeries. Then, Jenn joins Katy to help answer questions about dating and remarriage after a spouse dies and navigating a loved one's discovery of donor conception origins.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251012.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251012.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>88757</id><title>62 The Children's Rights View of  Skin Cell Babies &amp; Netflix Propaganda</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>This week on TBU Radio, Katy and Josh dive into the troubling trends shaping our culture and the future of children. From Netflix pushing LGBTQ ideology in children’s shows, to shocking new experiments creating embryos from human skin cells, to the rise of later-in-life pregnancies enabled by high-tech genetic testing—what do these developments mean for the natural rights of children? Together, they unpack the ethical and spiritual questions behind these headlines, explore the commodification of human life, and then Jenn joins Katy for listener Q&amp;A on IVF, supporting children in same-sex family situations, and protecting kids in the influencer economy. See more from Katy and team at thembeforeus.substack.com.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251005.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20251005.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>88656</id><title>61 Should Christians Want Forgiveness or Justice?</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Jenn lead this week’s TBU Radio, reflecting on Charlie Kirk’s memorial and the tension between grace, justice, and government responsibility. They examine Jimmy Kimmel’s controversial remarks, censorship battles, and the roots of political violence. Listener questions probe adoption for single parents, navigating fear when speaking about children’s rights, and shepherding kids through moments of public crisis. </itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250928.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250928.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>88564</id><title>60 Charlie Kirk's Death &amp; when Muslims and Catholics Unite against Trans Ideology</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Josh and Jenn host TBU Radio this week, tackling America’s biggest tensions. They begin with the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination and what it means for political violence and public trust. Then they move to California’s transgender athlete crisis, where Muslim and Catholic students unite against state rules that erase fairness and privacy. They also explore Gallup’s polling on ideal family size, exposing the gulf between what Americans want and what they can achieve. Listener questions bring the conversation home—on single parenthood, surrogacy, and guarding kids against cultural confusion. </itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250920.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250920.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>88455</id><title>59 How Crime, Safety, and the Economy Impact Families</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Josh discuss the tragic murder of a Ukrainian refugee on a Charlotte train reignites debate about crime, punishment, and whether justice systems are failing to protect the public. Then we turn to the economy: with Americans’ confidence in finding a new job at record lows, we look at what this means for fathers, families, and marriages under financial strain. Finally, we explore how faith shapes families, especially in adoption and foster care, revealing how hardship and sacrifice can actually fuel flourishing. Listener questions bring it home, tackling thorny issues of hospitality to those who identify as LGBT, educational choices for young adults preparing for marriage and family, and the lifelong effects of donor conception.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250914.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250914.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>88377</id><title>58 Wondering if AI is Hurting Education, Missing the Adulthood Milestones, and Navigating Your Teen Girl's Drama</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>In this week's show, Katy Faust and Josh Wood take a wide-angle look at the future of kids, schools, and families. We start with how AI is reshaping education, not by making kids better at coding, but by forcing schools to double down on soft skills like resilience, teamwork, and emotional intelligence. Then we turn South, where states like Florida and Tennessee are defying national trends in reading and math decline with bold reforms and a back-to-basics approach. We also dig into new Census data showing young adults are struggling to reach classic milestones of adulthood, marriage, kids, and independence, and what that means for society’s future. Finally, we take listener questions about teen drama and tough in-law relationships</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250906.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250906.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>88287</id><title>57 Haphazard Guardians, Political Gerrymanders, and Letting Kids Grow Up</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>This week’s show tackles three hot-button cultural and political debates shaping family life. First, we dive into California’s AB 495, the so-called “Family Preparedness Plan Act,” which supporters frame as compassionate but critics warn could dismantle parental rights and expose kids to exploitation. Then, we turn to Trump’s push for a “citizen-only” Census and the escalating redistricting wars that could reshape Congress for decades. We also look at the controversy over “parentification” and why letting kids pitch in at home might actually strengthen families, not harm them. Finally, in listener questions, we explore how parents can equip kids for back-to-school and how Christians should think about marriage debates in light of cases like Kim Davis and the Supreme Court’s signals on Obergefell.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250831.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250831.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>88194</id><title>56 Can Women "Have it All", Parental Accountability, and Abuse in Marriage</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>This week’s show takes on some of the toughest questions families face today. Jenn and Katy wrestle with the idea of whether women can truly “have it all,” balancing career, motherhood, and faith, and what that phrase even means in real life. Josh joins Katy to break down a growing legal and cultural question: should parents be held accountable for the crimes of their children? In the Q&amp;A, the team addresses one of the most difficult issues listeners raise, how to think about abuse within marriage and what a faithful, child-centered response should look like. It is a wide-ranging and heartfelt discussion about ambition, responsibility, and the real challenges families face behind closed doors.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250824.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250824.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>88124</id><title>55 30-Year-Old Embryo Born, IVF Policy Shift, and Abortion Pill Reversal Win</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Josh and Katy tackle the week’s headlines—like the miraculous birth of a baby frozen for 30 years, a court victory for abortion pill reversal, and what a new Gallup poll says about America’s values. Jenn joins for a raw Q&amp;A on tough bioethics questions: What should happen to embryos when a mother can’t carry them? What if a baby is born to the wrong parents? Plus, news on the Trump IVF policy shift, a surprise downturn in the jobs report, and why the economy matters for families.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250817.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250817.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>88039</id><title>54 Court Blocks Oregon’s Trans Ideology Rule for Adoptive Parents, Why Americans Don’t Adopt, and the Real Meaning Behind Falling Divorce Rates</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>In this episode, Katy and Josh explore the intersection of policy, parenting, and the well-being of children. They begin with a major legal win in Oregon, where the 9th Circuit struck down a rule requiring adoptive parents to affirm gender ideology, highlighting the need to put children’s needs before political agendas. Next, they examine why most Americans admire adoption but rarely choose it, and how fear, misinformation, and cultural trends contribute to the ongoing adoption gap. They also dig into encouraging new data showing that divorce rates are falling, while questioning whether fewer divorces actually mean stronger families. Finally, Jenn joins Katy to respond to thoughtful listener questions about adoption and same-sex couples, parenting differences between spouses, and whether two teens should marry before college. From courtrooms to living rooms, this episode asks a timely and important question: What does it truly mean to prioritize children in a culture that often centers adults instead? </itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250810.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250810.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>88040</id><title>53 Surrogacy Exposed: When the Law Protects Predators, Not Children</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>This week, Katy and Josh unpack two disturbing surrogacy stories making headlines. One involves a registered sex offender who crowdfunded his way into custody of an infant, and the other centers on a California couple under FBI investigation after commissioning 21 children via surrogacy. Together, they examine how surrogacy laws sidestep critical protections that would apply in adoption, and how treating children as products can lead to devastating consequences, even when everything appears legal on paper. 
In the second half, Jenn joins the conversation for a candid Q&amp;A, offering insight and perspective as the team responds to heartfelt listener questions about whether or not it's worth it to have children, someone stuck in a loveless marriage, and whether kids are meant to heal us.
</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250803.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250803.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>87770</id><title>52-LGBT Parenting Isn't Better for Kids &amp; Divorce is Seasonal</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>What happens when unpopular research proves true? We unpack new analysis on Mark Regnerus’s studies on LGBT parenting (hint: he was vindicated!), explore whether pastors should endorse candidates, and challenge the myth of a “well-timed” divorce. Real listener questions bring it home with honesty and hope.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250727.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250727.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>87741</id><title>51-Chip &amp; Joanna Gaines Promote LGBT Agenda in New Show</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Jenn dig into what boys are missing in today’s culture. Not just guidance, but men. From the shrinking presence of dads to the lack of male mentors in schools, boys are being raised in overwhelmingly female spaces, and it’s leaving a mark. Next, they unpack the latest headlines. Chip and Joanna Gaines make a surprising turn in their new show, and Baylor University reverses course on LGBT grant funding. Are Christian institutions buckling under cultural pressure? Finally, they respond to heartfelt listener questions about adoption, surrogacy, and the ache of absent fathers.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250719.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250719.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>87621</id><title>50-Defunding Planned Parenthood, Using Skin Cells to Make Children, Women Carrying the "Mental Load"</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Josh unpack the "Big Beautiful Bill" defunding Planned Parenthood, the new technology called "IVG" and what it means for children's rights, and then Jenn joins Katy with some questions about divorce and whether men or women carry more of the "mental load" in a relationship.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250712.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250712.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>87550</id><title>49-Raising Godly Offspring in a Broken Culture</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>This week’s episode dives deep into the culture and challenges facing today’s families. We start with Malachi 2:15 and explore what it means to raise godly offspring in a time when pride in America is declining and truth is under attack. 
In our news commentary, we unpack two major Supreme Court victories for children and parents, one upholding age verification for pornography websites, and another reinforcing parental rights over LGBT curriculum in schools. What do these rulings mean for Christian families?
We also tackle listener questions, from navigating a child’s exposure to pornography, to how to lovingly engage friends struggling with Christianity, to whether socialism aligns with Scripture.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone concerned with how to protect, disciple, and prepare children to stand firm in both faith and culture. Learn more from Them Before Us at thembeforeus.substack.com!
</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250705.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250705.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>87462</id><title>48 The Ethics of Embryo Adoption &amp; A Campaign to End Obergefell</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and her team address the latest controversy comparing embryo adoption to surrogacy and talk about a new campaign to "End Obergefell." Learn more from Them Before Us at www.thembeforeus.substack.com and at www.endobergefell.com.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250629.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250629.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>87367</id><title>47 SCOTUS Upholds Ban on "Gender Affirming Care" &amp; Mom on Life Support Keeps Baby Alive</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Because Katy is out of town, TBU staff members Josh and Jenn took over the program this week. They discuss the big news out of Iran, the uptick in American political violence, and the controversy surrounding a pregnant mother who was kept on life support for her unborn child. They celebrate the SCOTUS ruling to defend children's well-being and bodily safety from trans ideology and the allegations against Newsboys' Michael Tait. Finally, they address some big questions about surrogacy and how to share about children's rights without making everyone mad at you.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250622.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250622.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>87283</id><title>46-10 Years After Obergefell &amp; A New Tech Dashboard to Rank Your Embryos</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>In this thought-provoking episode, Katy and Jenn explore the growing bipartisan recognition that fatherhood matters and how the absence of dads affects generations of boys. They discuss the cultural shift highlighted by sociologists and unpack what makes fathers unique and irreplaceable in a child’s development. 
Next, they reflect on the ten-year anniversary of Obergefell v. Hodges with Andrew Walker's latest article for The Gospel Coalition and consider how the Supreme Court’s redefinition of marriage has impacted children’s rights.
Next they take a closer look at a new development in biotechnology. A new tech company has released an online dashboard that ranks embryos based on the likelihood of nearly 900 genetic traits and conditions, including mental health risks, BMI, and IQ. This gives parents the option to discard embryos that do not meet their preferred profile. Katy and Jenn raise urgent ethical questions about the growing trend of treating children as customizable products.
</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250615.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250615.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>87195</id><title>45 Birth Rates, Pride Month &amp; Surrogacy: What Are We Building for Our Kids?</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>This week on the show, Katy is digging into the roots of the “birth dearth” in America. Is it economics, worldview, or both? We look at new data showing how stable, well-paying jobs may be the best natalist policy out there — better than bonuses or benefits alone.
In our news commentary, we turn to Sesame Street’s decision to spotlight Pride Month. As major brands step back, why is children's content leaning in? How should parents respond when messages about identity and sexuality land in their kids’ media?
Plus, we tackle the troubling rise of elderly couples commissioning babies through surrogacy. A UK couple in their 70s just won parental rights — but what does that mean for the child’s future?
And finally, Katy and Jenn wonder how should Christians respond in truth and love when media voices we usually support stumble?
</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250608.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250608.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>87086</id><title>44 Louisiana Conservatives Fail on IVF, New Research on Why Porn is so Bad, and the Fight for Free Speech</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>This episode covers Louisiana’s IVF law changes, the harmful impact of pornography on marriage, and a free speech case involving a student’s T-shirt. We also tackle listener questions about parenting, surrogacy, and same-sex parenting. Please note, due to mature content, listener discretion is advised if children are present. </itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250601.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250601.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>87004</id><title>43 Fertility Clinic Bombing, Family Policy Win, and Complex Dating Dynamics</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Today's episode covers a tragic fertility clinic bombing driven by anti-life ideology, a pro-family spending bill in Congress, and a major study on the long-term harm of divorce. We also answer listener questions on adoption, blended family values, and healing after heartbreak. </itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250525.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250525.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>86883</id><title>42 Is the American Dream Dead—or Just Different?</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>In this episode, we dive deep into the generational shift that's turning the hustle culture on its head. Gen Z is trading skyscrapers for small towns and status for simplicity. But is slowing down the key to a better life, or just a retreat from responsibility? We unpack the values behind this movement and what it could mean for faith, family, and the future.
Then, we tackle the cultural confusion around cohabitation. Is shacking up a safe test run for marriage or a dead-end detour? We separate the science from the slogans and challenge the narratives shaping young hearts.
And in our listener Q&amp;A: Can regular check-ins save your marriage? Should you stay in a sparkless relationship? And can a marriage survive a child from an affair?
Check out more from Katy at thembeforeus.com and support our ANDnotOR campaign the next two months!
</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250518.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250518.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>86800</id><title>41 Defending kids from Laws and Policies</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>This week on Them Before Us Radio, we dive deep into stories that every Christian should be paying attention to. Why is the Trump administration defending Biden’s abortion pill policy? Why did a Maine judge call a conservative church a “cult” and bar a mother from taking her daughter to church? And what’s really behind Colorado’s latest transgender bill? We tackle these headlines from a biblical worldview, with honest commentary rooted in Scripture and a heart for truth. In our final segment, we answer your powerful listener questions—from navigating divorce with moral clarity to raising kids with wisdom in a digital world. </itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250511.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250511.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>86689</id><title>40 Abortion Pill Harms Exposed and the Future of Creepy Reproductive Technologies</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>In this episode, Katy and Patience unpack a major new study on the abortion pill that reveals alarming truths the industry and FDA have long downplayed. Nearly 1 in 9 women who take the abortion pill experience serious complications, destroying the narrative that it's "safer than Tylenol." We examine how policy changes and mail-order access have enabled widespread abuse, sidestepped state laws, and put countless women at risk. 
Then, listen to a clip from our IVF | FYI series where Ari Schulman, editor of The New Atlantis, shares about the rapidly evolving frontier of reproductive technology, from IVF to in vitro gametogenesis. What happens when we can create embryos from skin cells? What moral boundaries are we crossing, and how should Christians respond?
Finally, Jenn and Katy tackle your thought-provoking listener questions—from robot housekeepers to the ethical wreckage of broken families and surrogacy gone wrong.
</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250503.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250503.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>86602</id><title>39 Secrets at School: When States Hide Gender from Parents</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>This week on the show, Katy and Josh connect the dots between law, culture, and lived experience—always with children’s rights at the center. From President Trump’s executive order on IVF to state-level shifts on gender identity and family law, they unpack how policy decisions are shaping the lives of the next generation. Then Katy and Jenn turn to your questions. What do we say to someone navigating the grief of being donor-conceived? How should the church respond when life doesn’t follow the “perfect plan”? And is using embryo selection ever morally defensible?</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250426.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250426.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>86508</id><title>38 The Baby-Buying Backlash &amp; Interview with a Restorative Fertility Surgeon</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Josh open the episode with a cultural curveball: SNL’s shockingly honest sketch about a gay couple and a baby sparks a broader conversation, Where did the baby come from, and why are we told not to ask? They unpack the subtle shift in public opinion on same-sex parenting, surrogacy, and the crumbling taboos that once silenced these conversations. 
Next, Katy introduces a clip of our interview with Dr. Naomi Whittaker, a board-certified OB-GYN and fertility surgeon, to discuss what real, compassionate women’s healthcare looks like—and why restorative reproductive medicine matters more than ever in an era of artificial wombs and outsourced motherhood. Go check out our IVF | FYI series for the full conversation: https://youtu.be/WXbtIGijoaI?feature=shared 
Finally, we take on your questions:
– Is surrogacy ever okay—especially when frozen embryos are involved?
– Should you take relationship advice from #divorcedandthriving reels?
– And what should Christians think about artificial wombs?
</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250420.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250420.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>86396</id><title>36 What Do Children Deserve? Unsealing Adoption Records and The Ethics of Surrogacy</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>In this episode, we begin with Utah’s groundbreaking move to give adult adoptees access to their original birth records—without a judge’s permission. What does this mean for adoptees’ rights, and why does it matter? 
Next, in a clip from the Them Before US podcast series on IVF, Emma Waters from The Heritage Foundation joins us to unpack the booming surrogacy industry. Often painted as a compassionate act, commercial surrogacy raises deep ethical questions. Who profits, who pays, and what happens to the children? Emma connects the dots between surrogacy, IVF, and the broader cultural conversation on family and commodification.
Finally, we tackle raw, honest listener questions—from when and how to talk to kids about difficult family origins, to the blessings (not just the battles) of raising kids through every age. We also share powerful lessons learned from others’ marriages and how they shape our own.
</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250413.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250413.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>86333</id><title>35 Abortion, Ethics, and Embryos: A Deep Dive into Life Issues</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Josh unpack the latest Supreme Court case that could change the future of Planned Parenthood's federal funding. From billion-dollar donations to clinics starving for resources, they explore how the abortion giant prioritizes politics over patients. Then, you'll hear a thought-provoking conversation on IVF with renowned bioethicist Dr. David Prentice, discussing the hidden human cost behind 'designer babies' and gene editing. Finally, Katy and Jenn tackle your toughest listener questions, from the moment life begins to how the pro-life movement answers claims of hypocrisy. Tune in for truth, clarity, and conviction.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250406.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250406.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>86225</id><title>34 DNA for Sale: 23andMe’s Collapse and the Donor-Conceived Fallout</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>This episode explores the fallout from 23andMe’s bankruptcy and why it matters—not just for privacy, but for national security and donor-conceived individuals. Katy and Patience break down the risks of millions of genetic profiles being sold, especially those who relied on DNA tests to uncover hidden family histories. We also debut a clip from our new IVF | FYI series, featuring Kathryn Francisco, who recently discovered she was donor-conceived. Plus, listener questions tackle solo parenting after loss, ethical adoption, and why poly-relationships are dangerous for the kids in the home. </itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250330.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250330.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>86123</id><title>33 IVF, Parental Incarceration &amp; Policy Wars</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>From courtroom battles over frozen embryos to the push for less abortion transparency, today’s policies are shaping the future of family, life, and law. In this episode, we unpack the Virginia ruling on embryo rights—what it means for IVF and why it matters. We also expose the latest move by the abortion industry to weaken reporting requirements and discuss the hidden cost of parental incarceration on children. Plus, we answer pressing listener questions on raising teens, political friendships, and building strong marriages.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250323.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250323.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>86041</id><title>32 Defending Children's Rights in the era of “Conversion Therapy,” Family Breakdown, and Assisted Suicide</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Josh discuss how family breakdown fuels poverty and crime, a Supreme Court case on free speech in gender confusion related counseling, and Montana’s assisted suicide debate. Later, Jenn joins Katy for Q&amp;A on surrogacy, bioethics, and parenting twins. Join us for a critical conversation on truth, family, and protecting the next generation!</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250315.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250315.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>85945</id><title>31 Redefining Reality? Gender Laws, Parental Rights &amp; the Culture War</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>In this episode, we dive deep into the latest cultural and political battlegrounds shaping our society. We start with a biblical perspective and break down key news events, including Governor Kim Reynolds’ controversial decision to remove gender identity as a protected class in Iowa and the growing debate over parental rights in education. We also examine the rising trend of fentanyl use among teenage girls—what’s driving it, and what can be done? Plus, we tackle listener questions on a single mom considering dad's involvement and embryo adoption. Join us for a thought-provoking discussion at the intersection of faith, policy, and truth.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250309.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250309.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>85837</id><title>30 The Cost of Playing God with Human Lives</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>This week we tackle the growing clash between technology, ethics, and children's rights. First, we break down President Trump’s executive order expanding IVF access—what does it really mean for the tiniest humans created in labs? We explore why the IVF industry, as currently practiced, is incompatible with a pro-life, pro-child ethic and what a truly pro-family approach to fertility should look like.  Next, we examine the controversy surrounding Elon Musk, Ashley St. Clair, and the conservative response to their unconventional family structure. And we take on tough listener questions about raising kids with traditional values in a progressive culture.  Join us for a powerful discussion that refuses to trade truth for convenience.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250303.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250303.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>85755</id><title>29 Actions the Aid Children</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy Faust highlights presidential actions which will aid our nations children.  She also talks with TBU Executive Director Josh Wood and answers listener questions.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250223.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250223.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>85656</id><title>28 Pro-Life Actions</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy Faust spends time in the Word, examines current events and answers listener questions as they apply to our children.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250216.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250216.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 16 Feb 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>85542</id><title>27 A Future for the Family</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Founder and host Katy Faust talks with Patience Sunne about new technology.  She also talks about recent news stories and answers listener questions, all in light of how these things affect children.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250209.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250209.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>85465</id><title>26 A Pro-Life President</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy talks recounts the actions of President Trump which provide protection for unborn and just born children.  She also talks with American Commitment President Phil Kerpen and answers listener questions.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250202.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250202.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 01 Feb 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>85177</id><title>Episode 25</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Host and founder Katy Faust talks about No Fault Divorce, the Ohio Parents' Bill of Rights, a controversy involving frozen embryos and how these issues affect children.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250119.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250119.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>85089</id><title>24 What Happens When a Whole Generation Never Grows Up</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>In this episode, Katy spends some bible time, talks with Executive Director Josh Wood about protecting children from pornography and answers listener questions.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250112.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250112.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>84861</id><title>23 Year in Review</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Them Before Us host and founder Katy Faust looks back at 2024, looks ahead to children's rights and answers listener questions.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250105.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20250105.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jan 2025 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>84854</id><title>22 Christmas and Relationships</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy talks about Christmas and the ministry of reconciliation.  She also has bible time and answers listener questions.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241229.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241229.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 29 Dec 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>84853</id><title>21 Josh Wood</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Executive Director Josh Wood fills in for Katy and discusses the Madison, WI school shooting, bible time and listener questions.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241222.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241222.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 21 Dec 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>84775</id><title>20 Protecting Children's Fundamental Rights</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Them Before Us host and founder Katy Faust discusses recent policy developments, interviews Josh Wood, and answers listener questions.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241214.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241214.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 14 Dec 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>84644</id><title>19 Supreme Court Cases</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and her guest Patience Sunne discuss cases before the US Supreme court including a challenge to Tennessee’s law banning gender transition for minors.  Katy also answers listener questions.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241208.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241208.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>84506</id><title>18 Thanksgiving Dinner-A Politics-Free Zone</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Many families will choose to just talk turkey and avoid politics during dinner this Thanksgiving.  In segment 2 Katy talks with Canadian youtuber Jonathan Pageau about his project to revive some great fairytales.  Katy also answers questions from listeners in the 3rd segment.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241201.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241201.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>84456</id><title>17 Andrew Wood</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>This week, Katy talks with Andrew Wood, Senior Executive Director Of Church Engagement with the Pro-Abundant Life Group, Care Net.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/tb4u_20241123.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/tb4u_20241123.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>84324</id><title>16 What About Adoption?</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy Faust talks with Them Before Us Engagement Director Patience Sunne about adoption and answers listener questions.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241116.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241116.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>84256</id><title>15 Election Outcomes</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Them Before Us host and founder Katy Faust talks with Engagement Director Patience Sunne about election outcomes as they will impact children.  And she also answers listener questions with Training Director Jennifer Friesen.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241109.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241109.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 09 Nov 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>84140</id><title>14 Delano Squires</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy and Them Before Us Executive Director Josh Wood discuss issues in the news which potentially affect children.  Katy then talks with Delano Squires of the Heritage Foundation about race as it applies to our kids.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241102.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241102.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 03 Nov 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>84069</id><title>13 In the News</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Them Before Us host and founder Katy Faust discusses items in the news as they potentially impact children and answers listener questions.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241026.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241026.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>83933</id><title>12 Tiffany Justice</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Host Katy Faust talks with Moms for Liberty co-founder, Tiffany Justice, and answers listener questions.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241019.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241019.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>83853</id><title>11 Patience</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Host Katy Faust talks with guests Patience Sunne, TBU Engagement Director, and Tiffany Justice of Mom's for Liberty about ballot initiatives across the country which could impact children.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241013.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241013.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>83779</id><title>10 Hurricane Helene</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy talks with Executive Director Josh Wood, a resident of Charlotte, NC, about the effects of hurricane Helene as well as the recent vice presidential debate.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241006.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20241006.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>83681</id><title>9 Technology and our Children</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Them Before Us founder and host Katy Faust talks with author Maria Baer of the Colson Center on the topic of digital technology and its effect on our children.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240929.mp3" length="69497396" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240929.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:15</itunes:duration></item><item><id>83601</id><title>8 Our Technology has Outpaced our Ethics</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Host and Founder Katy Faust talks with Executive Director Josh Wood about "customized children" and other frightening phenomena arising from mankind's willingness to pursue the possible whether or not it is right.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240921.mp3" length="57951524" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240921.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:17</itunes:duration></item><item><id>83526</id><title>7 The Debate and the Environment</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy talks about issues  in our world affecting children, beginning with some topics brought up in the recent presidential debate.  She also discusses the environment with Chris Barnard, President of the American Conservation Coalition.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240914.mp3" length="57951524" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240914.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 14 Sep 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:17</itunes:duration></item><item><id>83396</id><title>6 Child Protection</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Founder and host Katy Faust discusses protection of children with guests Josh Wood and Abby Johnson.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240907.mp3" length="57951524" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240907.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 07 Sep 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:17</itunes:duration></item><item><id>83305</id><title>5 How the Election Affects Children</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Katy Faust and Them Before Us Executive Director Josh Wood discuss the upcoming presidential election and it's implications for our nations children.  Then she talks with Laura Reese of The Heritage Foundation about border security and immigration.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240831.mp3" length="57951524" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240831.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 31 Aug 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:17</itunes:duration></item><item><id>83218</id><title>4 Observations on the DNC</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Host and founder Katy Faust talks with Executive Director Josh Wood about the recent Democratic National Convention.  Katy also talks with Jon Schweppe of the American Principles Project about the dangers of pornography and answers listener questions.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240824.mp3" length="57951524" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240824.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 24 Aug 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:17</itunes:duration></item><item><id>83132</id><title>3 Pro-child Politics</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Host Katy Faust talks about the new book Pro-child Politics and interviews one of its authors.  But first she takes a deeper dive into the book of Matthew and points out that the great commission should apply in our own families.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240817.mp3" length="57949958" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240817.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:17</itunes:duration></item><item><id>83051</id><title>2 VP Candidates and how it impacts kids future</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Them Before Us founder and host Katy Faust along with Executive Director Josh Wood discuss the different views between the current Vice President Candidates J.D. Vance and Tim Walz.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240810.mp3" length="69634390" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240810.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:21</itunes:duration></item><item><id>82937</id><title>1 Inaugural Show</title><itunes:author>Them Before Us</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle /><itunes:summary>Them Before Us is an advocate for children's rights, especially the right to have both a father and a mother.  In this inaugural show, founder and host Katy Faust talks about the organization and what to expect in future programs.</itunes:summary><itunes:image href="https://afr.net/media/oydfte3w/tbu-peelback-1400x1400.png" /><enclosure url="https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240803.mp3" length="69608081" type="audio/mpeg" /><guid>https://streamer1.afa.net/tracking/streamer1.afa.net/afr-aod/ThemBeforeUs/TB4U_20240803.mp3</guid><pubDate>Sat, 03 Aug 2024 08:00:00 GMT</pubDate><itunes:duration>00:48:20</itunes:duration></item></channel></rss>