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American Family Radio welcomes Tim Todd to the show
Walker Wildmon Welcome to The Core here, here on American Family Radio. Glad to have you with us. That was a natural repeat there. That was no audio mistake. Hear, hear. I probably couldn't do that again even if I tried. Glad to have you with us on the program. Walker Wildmon here, American Family Radio. This show is at the core heard each weekday here on afr. And Rick Green and myself, we host the show for you each week and hopefully you enjoy it and maybe that's why you keep coming back. We had a good event last week. I was out the latter part of last week down in Mobile, Alabama. We had a great night of fellowship with some of our supporters down there. So, we enjoyed that. We're trying to travel the country and have dinner, and fellowship with our supporters and so will be in Richmond, Virginia in the fall and we'll be a couple other places as well. Wichita, Kansas. Let me turn our attention to the scripture and then we'll go to our guest, our good friend Tim Todd.
Bread obtained by falsehood is sweet to a man, but afterward it's gravel
we're in Proverbs chapter 20 this week and looking, there's a lot of wisdom here. but looking at verse 17. Bread obtained by falsehood is sweet to a man, but afterward his mouth will be filled with gravel. Bread obtained by falsehood is sweet to a man, but afterward his mouth will be filled with gravel. So gain through falsehood, gain through deception, and gain through sin, ultimately isn't sweet. And that's what the proverb here is teaching. There's ultimately a price to pay for gains, that are sought through sin and through deception. And we all know that the ultimate judgment comes on judgment day for those who have obtained things through falsehood, through deception and through non honest gain. That's Proverbs chapter 20, verse 17. Tim Todd is with us. Evangelist Tim Todd, President founder of Revival Fires International Revival Fires Ministry.
American Family Radio has been reaching young people with the gospel for 25 years
Tim, welcome back to the program.
Rev Tim Todd Glad to be here, Walker. Appreciate you having me on your program.
Walker Wildmon You know Tim, it feels like three months ago we were doing this, but it's been a year. And every August for 25 years you've been on AFR, you began partnering with my grandfather Don Wildmon, who shared this vision with you on reaching young people in our school systems with the gospel, with the truth of God's word. So give us, bring us up to speed 25 years. Over a million Bibles, correct?
Rev Tim Todd Yes, 1.3 million Bibles. And we're so thankful for what God is doing. we give the Bibles to teenagers that commit to give them to their friends in school that don't know Jesus. And so I like to call it legally smuggling Bibles into America's public school.
Walker Wildmon Sounds fine to me. Sounds good to me.
Rev Tim Todd So it of course is legal for young people to give Bibles away. And on the back cover of the Truth for Youth Bible, we put the students legal rights on public school campus and we encourage the young people to boldly go on their school campus, find somebody that they know that is not serving the Lord, and to give them a copy of the Truth to Youth Bible. And of course it has students or it has comic stories in the front that deal with the truth about things that young people are up against on a regular basis.
Walker Wildmon Now did you. I, may be making this up or speaking out of turn. Didn't you guys recently update the comics?
Rev Tim Todd We are in the process right now.
Walker Wildmon We're in the process of updating them.
Rev Tim Todd And one of the brand new comics that will be in the next edition, Walker, is the truth about Transgender Ideology. And we've our young people to know, that they have an identity in Christ. And that no matter what the liberal news media is saying and social media is saying that they can find their true identity in the Lord Jesus Christ. And so it's a powerful story. In fact, your dad had Art Aris on the program, Today's Issues earlier today that wrote the comic story for transgender ideology. And then one of your, the workers at the stand actually came up, here, at afa, came up with the title for our, comic. And it's called Dangerous, ah, Confusion, which is, just very timely for this particular story. And so. But we give the Bibles to the teenagers. They give them away in school. We've given away 1.3 million. We've received decision cards from young people that have given the heart to the Lord Jesus Christ. More than 30,000 in the 25 years that we've been on the air, with AFR. And of course, one of them 25 years ago when we started this project was from Purvis, Mississippi. We had a coach that called in to revival fires and said, hey, we heard on American Family Radio free Bibles for students. And we gave one to that coach. He said, I know just who I want to give it to. He gave it to a troubled young man in his, in Purvis, Mississippi, on his football team and smoking pot, drinking and carrying on. And so he brought that Truth for Youth Bible and he interrupted a class period. The coach walked in there, threw that Bible on the desk of that young man and said, you need to read this. And so very matter of fact, so that young man after school read all the comics in the front and he gave his life to the Lord, got called into the ministry, and now 25 years later, would you believe he is now my pastor? I love it. In west, Monroe, Louisiana, church of 800 to 1,000 people. And ah, so you know, the Bible says some seed fell in good soil and produced a hundredfold harvest in return. And then chapter 8, verse 11 of Luke says, the seed is the word of God. So one bold coach gave one Truth for Youth Bible to one troubled young man. And as a result of it, he got saved. He was called into the ministry. And now I have the privilege and honor of calling him my pastor for our family.
Walker Wildmon Amen. Praise God. That's the ultimate testimony, from your vantage point, the ultimate personal testimony of how God used the ministry of truth for youth, to ultimately bless your family through the local church and through your pastor. And the, this one thing that I think is encouraging. Tim.
American Family Radio is sending free Bibles to teens this week
Once again, we're talking to Tim Todd. truth for you. The Bible Week is this week on AFR. You can go to Revivalfires.org or you have a shortened URL, right?
Rev Tim Todd Yes.
Walker Wildmon TFY.org TFY.org I heard that this morning. T F Y.org to order your free Bible. Once again, we're targeting ages 13 to 18 on American Family Radio. This week, we going to send you a Bible for free. So if you have a teen 13 to 18 in your household down the street, maybe your neighbor or someone you go to church with, and they're willing to take this Bible to school and give it to one of their friends or one of their. One of their classmates. This is the purpose of the campaign. So you're not going to be charged shipping, you're not going to have to donate. We just want to send these Bibles and get them into the hands of students all around the country. T f y. You can go there and fill out.
Rev Tim Todd The form and the 800 number, too.
Walker Wildmon Yes, yes, we've got the 800 number. Give that number out real quick.
Rev Tim Todd 8007-3347-3780-0733-4737.
Walker Wildmon Excellent, excellent. So you can go to tfy.org or the number that Tim just gave out, and we'll give that out again before we wrap up the segment.
Walker: Some students may feel unequipped to share the gospel
But Tim, what, what I was. My thought was is that some students may feel unequipped to share the gospel or to convince a friend of the truth of God's word. Because we've all been in these conversations where some people are going through stuff that's just so challenging, so difficult, that you think to yourself, what can I do? Like, how can I articulate God's word? and maybe you only have five minutes with this person. God's word does all that for us.
Rev Tim Todd Yes.
Walker Wildmon And we don't have to feel this pressure that we've got to convince somebody else of the truth of God's word and God's plan for salvation through Jesus. We can simply give them the word of God, in this case, the entire New Testament, and let the word of God do its work. And the work of God, through the power of the Holy Spirit, God can convict people's hearts without us. We can give the word of God, Holy Spirit works and lives are changed. That happened with the young gentleman who's now your pastor. Maybe not so young anymore. but this happens every day. You guys have getting Thousands. You mentioned 30,000 testimony, testimonies. God's word is sufficient now. We need to be good examples. We need to be witnesses. We need to be salt and light. We need to be a living example of what God has done in us, but we don't need to feel, and students don't need to feel this burden that they've got to save their friend. That's what God's word is for, right?
Rev Tim Todd That sure is, Walker. And you know what's so exciting is that with the truth for youth, New Testament, we have 100 pages of comic stories in the front. And so not only do these comics deal with the truth about things that our young people are up against on a regular basis, but incorporated into each one of the short stories, we give the plan of salvation. So they get that plan of salvation in every one of the issues that we're dealing with. And then at the close of it, scripturally, we show them how they can give their life to Jesus Christ, how they can, find, their way to the foot of the cross and get saved. And then what they need to do after they give their heart to the Lord, they send in a decision card or an email to let us know that they gave their heart to the Lord. And then we contact them and connect them with a youth pastor in a local area, wherever they live. And so it's a win win situation. So the word of God will not return void. It will accomplish what God intends for it to accomplish. And then those comic stories draw the reader in. And so we're seeing great results that have happened as a result of it.
Walker Wildmon Amen. Praise God. All it takes. Tim, honestly, and this is the case with any salvation story. It takes one testimony to be convinced this is worth it.
Rev Tim Todd Right?
Walker Wildmon One life transformed is worth all the work that we and you guys at, ah, revival fires put into this project. 800-733-4737. That's the number to call in if you're listening. Now you want one of these truth for you New Testament Bibles. 800-733-4737 TFY.org you can call in one per, per, ah, teen. Right, one per teen. And I want, I want to note Tim as a dad and of course you're a father as well. The, the reason you guys are targeting 13 to 18 here is, which should be late middle, which would be middle school and high school, basically. is that these comics are heavy hitting. Yes, of course, the word of God is heavy hitting.
Rev Tim Todd Right.
Walker Wildmon It doesn't, doesn't dance around the issues. but the comics are heavy hitting too. And I want to speak to the parents that may be a little naive to think that, well, my kid doesn't hear about that at school, the reality is there's a lot of stuff that happens in the public school and even private school for that matter. I've heard horror stories at private Christian schools. we need to be speaking to our young people about these hard hitting issues. We can't just let them hear about it from the world. That's the importance of these comics.
Rev Tim Todd Yes. And you know, things like drugs and drunkenness and peer pressure, things like pornography and sexual purity and what the Bible says about these things. And our young people, they're getting just a steady diet from the world, from social media, from the liberal news media, from school, even school administrators and teachers. Many of them m. Thank God for Christian teachers, but not all of them are Christian teachers. And you know, we kicked God out of our schools in 1962 and 1963 and as a result of it, the devil has moved in 100%. what we need to do is get the devil out of our schools. And I believe the way that we do that is by shining the light of the gospel so that our young people can know the truth.
Walker Wildmon Yes, absolutely. And so folks, this is our truth for Youth Bible Week. And we want the last thing I'll say about the comics while we're on this is that what I love about the comics and this is what makes us different than anything else, is every story ends in the gospel. We're not presenting problems of the world and sin problems and then leaving it open ended for the youth to just figure it out. Every single story leads back to the gospel of Jesus Christ and his plan for salvation and his plan for humanity. And so that's one thing I love about it. It's not open ended. It points back to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. TFY.org, these are targeting students age 13 to 18. Whether you go to private, maybe you're even a homeschooler, but you have friends down the street that you want to give the Bible to whoever wants to call in. We're targeting ages 13 to 18. So if you're a parent, grandparent, etcetera, go ahead and call in. We'll send you a free Bible, ah, per student, to give out to their friends and fellow ah, students starting back the school year. Tim, this is a great way to shine the Gospel of Jesus Christ into our school system.
Rev Tim Todd Yes, thank you so much for the partnership with American Family Radio and all that God is doing through this project.
Walker Wildmon Amen. Thanks Tim. Appreciate it Tim. Todd, he's Going to be here all today and we'll be pushing this all week folks. Let's send over 60,000, 65,000 is our goal Bibles into the hands of students of young people all around this country. We've heard from tens of thousands of young people who've had their lives transformed by the power of the Holy Spirit, by the gospel of Jesus Christ. Their lives will never be the same because you helped get these Bibles into our classrooms and into our schools. So this is an opportunity folks. You wonder how can I be salt and light? This is it. Truth4Youth T F Y.org T F Y.org.
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Stephen Friend is a former special agent with the FBI
Walker Wildmon Welcome back to The Core here on American Family Radio. Well if you missed the last segment or you just want the information one more time, we had Tim Todd on talking about the New Testament copies of the Truth for Youth Bible that we're sending in to schools all around the country through our youth. And the URL for that is tfy.org you can go there and fill out the form, one copy per student. That's our standard because we are shipping these for free and printing them. the cost is covered by AFR and Tim Todds ministry and so there's no cost to you to get these New Testament copies into your hands, into the hands of students. 800-733-4737. That's the number 800 733-473 7 all. Ah right, let's jump to our next guest. Steven Friend is with us. He's a former special agent with the FBI, joined them in 2014 and has also been a whistleblower within, within the federal government. And he's here to talk about his experiences under the last administration leading up to where we are now. Stephen, welcome to the program.
Steven Friend Well thank you very much for having me today.
Walker Wildmon Well Stephen, give us, give us a little bit about your bio. Give us a little, a little bit of your background starting from when you left local law enforcement and moved into the, the FBI. And then what led you to where you are today?
Steven Friend Well I was a police officer in Georgia for a number of years and joined the FBI 2014. So they typically take people with law enforcement experience and put them in more remote locations where you wouldn't need as much oversight. So that's exactly what happened to me. I wound up in northwest Iowa, northeast Nebraska area working on Indian Reservations for about seven years doing violent crime, was a member of the SWAT team and then tried to get a little bit closer to home after that time and wound up transferring to Daytona beach, which is a sub office for Jacksonville's division, and took that transfer to work on child exploitation, human trafficking cases in 2021, but was reassigned to work on the Joint Terrorism Task Force to beef up the manpower for the largest and most important significant case in the history of the country, per the FBI, which was the January 6th case. And what I saw going on with those investigations, I had a number of concerns that I wound up bringing forward to my supervisors in August of 2022 where effectively they were manipulating the cases to make terrorism look like it was far worse than it actually was. And that's actually been recently, borne out. And the director of National Intelligence, Tulsa Gabbard has revealed that to be accurate, she did that a couple weeks ago. And secondly the use of SWAT teams to arrest people who were cooperative was tremendous concern. Being a SWAT guy myself, being a civil rights enthusiast myself, they were going to set a SWAT team in my office to arrest someone who had pledged to cooperate fully, had an attorney, no expectation that was going to happen, hadn't even had any contact with the FBI for a year and a half. So those concerns necessitated my removal because I was not a member of Police Battalion 101 apparently wasn't willing to just follow orders, so was removed in September 2022 about 30 days after coming forward as a whistleblower. And here I sit now. It's been 10, 50 days since I was removed.
Walker Wildmon Wow, there's a lot we can unpack there. I covered your story briefly in passing, but I don't even think I mentioned your name. But the, what you mentioned, when I, when I say your story, I'm talking about you being reassigned or told to focus in on the J6 cases and not what you are primarily supposed to be doing at the FBI when you move down to Florida. Tell us about that because that's, that in and of itself is scandalous that the Biden DOJ and FBI decided that the on, on the worst day, the rioters and protesters of January 6 were a higher priority than child exploitation. So talk about what you were focused on originally and then what they told you you should be focused on.
Steve Friend Well I was really a, ah, one man band in my office, only had eight agents. So I took on the responsibility of any sort of child exploitation cases, child pornography, human trafficking, was doing that for officially a few months before they reassigned me. But there really just wasn't work to do. And this all comes down to one of the biggest problems that exists within the FBI that nobody knows about, and that is the fact that there's a quota system that they develop for themselves every single year. They set out metrics, they call them goals for themselves to hit to justify their existence, to get an enhanced budget. So there's a tremendous pot of money attached to national security, attached to terrorism, and depending on who the president is, in this case with Joe Biden administration, they really wanted to go after conservatives and label them as terrorists. So that was how January 6th was a giant boondoggle, because the way the FBI typically would carry any investigation of whatever happened for it would be one investigation in Washington, D.C. where the incident happened. But instead they located names of anybody who might be connected to that and opened a separate case for each person. So we turned one case into 2500 cases, and then wherever the person lived, we assigned it to that office on paper, even though you really weren't responsible for much for managing the case. So now we have the false illusion. You look at the map and you see that there's 2,500 terrorists around the country, when in effect, it at worst was people who were engaging in some m. Low level of violence at the Capitol. But more often than not, it was someone who just went on a guided tour of the People's House. So that was what they did. And they did it to personally enrich themselves as well. It wasn't just bureaucratic because they wanted to go back to Congress and say, we have so many terrorists, we need more funding. But executives within each office get bonuses because their subordinates hit the metrics that they set for them. So you got senior executives getting $50,000 bonuses just because agents are opening the right number of terrorist cases and arresting the right number of people, regardless of the fact of the circumstances of the case. You're not really following due process at that point. You're treating it more like creating widgets in a factory. And that's not really what law enforcement is about.
Walker Wildmon Yeah, yeah, it's. It's a performance, ah, based model for law enforcement that, that seems a little risky there. as far as refocusing your attention based on some incentive structure instead of just doing your job, and prioritizing based on the gravity of the crime, which is historically what happens. did you, did anybody come in behind you and pick up these, these terrible cases that you guys were managing as far as the Child trafficking, the human trafficking, the exploitation of minors, all of those, those heart wrenching, horrific crimes that should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Did anybody come in and backfill the void there or was this stuff just dropped?
Steve Friend Well, when I was there, I was told that they were not a priority and that they should be outsourced to local law enforcement. Now I benefited from the fact that there was a, a vacuum in leadership in my office, a retirement of a mid level manager, and before his replacement came in, it was just kind of a guy in the office holding the seat warm. And he essentially told me that I could continue to work the cases as long as it didn't conflict with any terrorism cases. And we didn't have any terrorism cases to work. So, I continued doing it, but ultimately when I was removed from duty, all those cases were closed out. And then when the public became aware of me and the work I was doing and how those reassignments happened, even to the extent where they were sending agents like myself to go do surveillance of parents at school board meetings, there was quite a bit of public outcry. And from what my understanding was, they arranged for another agent to transfer to the office and, and take up those cases. And I actually, interesting enough, got a phone call from this agent asking me questions about the cases that I had worked, trying to get help on them, even though I was a technically not a sworn law enforcement officer, which doesn't really speak well, the, the capability or competence of that agent.
Walker Wildmon Yeah, that, that, the fact that, that you couldn't, basically, you couldn't even find terrorism cases until they started making them up based on J6. but what you're saying is there wasn't true like textbook terrorism cases there, but there was a lot of these other cases, right? That of issues, of alleged crimes. And then you, you're told to focus on terrorism and you're like, hey, there is no terrorism. And they say, wait, there's January 6th, we'll turn it into terrorism. the SWAT team usage. I mean this was, this happened multiple times. I lost count. But I know the, the, like, the textbook cases are Roger Stone, they, they, they got Michael Flynn in the airport. Not Michael Flynn, I'm sorry. They got the Trade representative Peter Navarro. Yeah, they got Peter Navarro in the airport unnecessarily, right? This guy's like in open communication with the FBI and they want to show up at the gate or in the airport and arrest him and make a scene. And but Talk about that. Because this was heavy handed use of law enforcement and tactical type teams with people that were showing no signs of resistance, no signs of fleeing, no signs of harming other people. I mean this could have been a phone call, hey, show up at the FBI office or the courthouse tomorrow at 2:00'. Clock.
Walker Wildmon But instead they bust in SWAT teams full of 10 to 15 people.
Steve Friend This is exactly the weaponization that we were talking about during the last election cycle. Because the FBI made the process, the punishment. It has its tools and its goodies and it wants to justify having them and using them. And that's when they got away from their prime directive. Directive is you follow process, due process, I think I read about that in some pesky old document. But the due process is you follow the facts, present them at court. And if the facts support a conviction, then that's because the facts did not because you're such a great agent. If the facts don't support that conviction, it's because the facts didn't. It's not because you did a lousy job. But instead the FBI was interested in the outcome, not the process. And the outcome for them was sending a message and was punishing people who they perceived to be politically inconvenient for them or the next target that the, the executive office wanted them to go after.
The FBI devolved its national security mission from going after real terrorists
And even just to tie it to the last comment about the, the terrorism angle and the fact that there's not a lot of terrorism, that that is true. And, and as a result of bureaucracy that the FBI is, the B stands for bureau bureaucracy. It's essentially Skynet, where the Terminator movies show Skynet as ones and zeros, artificial intelligence. It comes to the inevitable conclusion that the people are the problem and has to go after them. It's not good or evil, it's just programming. Well, as a bureau, as a bureaucracy, the FBI devolved its national security mission set from going after real terrorists, which there weren't very many of them. We need to get funding and capabilities and personnel and manpower. We got to keep growing. So then they re characterized people as being homegrown violent extremists. Then domestic violent extremists, then militia violent extremists, moms at school board meetings, anti government, anti authority violent extremists, which are people according to the FBI, have a perception of government overreach or negligence. So conservatives, and then we can label them as domestic terrorists and we have all the, the goodies, all the tools in the Batman belt to go after them. And no One wants to brief up the chain of command all the way to the Hoover Building that they didn't send the SWAT team to go get the vile, vicious terrorist.
Walker Wildmon You know, once again we're talking to Stephen Friend, former FBI special agent and whistleblower as well with the federal government. Stephen, it seems to be there's two motivations here. You mentioned the financial and the budget. Motivation to just continue to grow this FBI for the sake of the institution.
Steve Friend Right.
Walker Wildmon Just make it bigger and bigger and get more money and everybody gets incentives, et cetera. I think the higher up political motivation is to squelch speech and to squelch political opposition. And you alluded to this, but I think those two priorities can go parallel. And I think they were going parallel in that the Bidens of the world, they're not really in the day to day like budgetary debates and here's how we need more money and we got to make this division bigger. They're in. I don't like Trump, I don't like maga, I don't like conservatives. So we're going to, this is going to serve a dual purpose. This is going to squelch speech, it's going to intimidate our political opponents. And by the way, we'll just grow the bureaucracy while we're at it. Does that seem like a fair assessment?
Steve Friend Yes. It's not an if or it's an and also situation. And then another element to this, yet another element where it's the intelligence aspect, where intelligence is driving missions like it's a military and that's not what law enforcement is. You should never have an intelligence agency with guns. That's the Cheka, that's the Stasi, that's, that's the FBI at this point. And the intelligence personnel, the intelligence analysts in the FBI are essentially leftists who get paid to write term papers on whatever they want, which is trying to present Christians and, and white people in this country as being the enemy. And then those intelligence bulletins and products are imbibed and laundered into operations and they drive the quota system which then in fact drives the, the operational end of it. And we're going to have to label these people as being violent actors. We have to take kinetic action against them. And in to make sure that we do that. We even write the policy that says that, well, if a person has a firearm, regardless of the second Amendment, again I read that in a pesky, dusty document. if there don't even have to be a prohibited person if you Own a firearm. The FBI is justified in sending a tactical team and a Bearcat at your house at 6:00 in the morning, which.
Walker Wildmon Would be virtually everybody in the country that owns a firearm, statistically. yeah, if you apply that standard to everybody across the board, then you're going to have tactical teams showing up for every crime, high and low. the, what I want to ask you about now is the current FBI. I like Cash Patel, I like Dan Bongino. It seems like, they're doing some good stuff over there. How much can be done within the current confines? And then what? And then do we need some more revolutionary change? Meaning, like, deconstructing certain divisions, like, how much can they do with what they got today versus, like some major reforms? Meaning shutting down different divisions or reorienting divisions.
Steve Friend That is their prime directive. That is what they should have gone in and done, and that is what they have not done. And I'm. I hate to be a little bit vanta black with my outlook on this, but if you ask me to grade their performance of both the director and the Deputy director, I give them, without, question, an F at this point. Because they went in when they tried to win hearts and minds. And, and they had the false presupposition that all the good men and women of the FBI, as they like to call them, were, rigorous obedience to the Constitution. That was their default setting. As opposed to people who were Police Battalion 101 who just followed orders and kept their heads down for the last few years, and, and then have now tapped them on the shoulder and gotten them distracted, saying, let me show you the secret James Comey room. and the documents in a burn bag, which you could access at any point on any classified system within the FBI, because the FBI doesn't use typewriters or candlelight to generate documents. So that's a complete charade. Now, they should have gone in and used shock and awe rather than hearts and minds and eliminated a lot of these people. Instead, they promoted them. They promoted Steven Jensen, who was the architect of the January 6th investigations. They promoted Brian Driscoll, who refused to cooperate with Pam Bondi and hand over the list of employees who worked on January 6th. Yeah, and those are just two people that have been moved back. And they went after and promoted people who were tyrants against coronavirus. people who did not want to get back vaccinated. Yeah, and look, I mean, I'm in this, I'm siloed in it. but I'll just Give an analogy. There's a reason that no one, in polite company can say that Bill Cosby was a brilliant comedian, actor, performer, and that is because what we knew about him at the end of his life. Now, similarly, if you knew nothing else other than this one fact, tell me what grade you would give him. The pilot or the FBI director.
Walker Wildmon Currently headed into a break. We'll be back.
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Steve Friend gave the FBI an F for its leadership under new leadership
Walker Wildmon Welcome back to the core. We had a, rude break, hard break that cut Stephen off mid thought as he was wrapping up his assessment of the FBI. So we brought him back for a couple more minutes so he can wrap up that thought. All right, Stephen, you were giving us. The question was, what would you. How would you assess, what the FBI is doing today under the leadership of Cash Patel as Director, Dan Bongino's deputy Director. Of course, they're under Pam Bondi as Attorney General. so back to that thought. You were giving your assessment and you gave them an F, but you were elaborating on that, so continue.
Steve Friend Yeah, and just to close the loop on it, look, the. The director and the FBI director are continuously talking about how they're being briefed up on the most important cases all the time, every single day. That means they haven't reviewed the org chart for the FBI where they are respectively 13 and 14 levels of bureaucracy above a case agent working a case. That's not their job. Their job is to set the vision, move the chess pieces around the board, reprioritize. And they're not doing that. But they feel busy. They're being distracted by the people that are there, the good and faithful servants. And look, the last thing I was sort of using the analogy was Bill Cosby, vile, vicious, horrible person. Nobody can say he's a good comedian because of what he did to those women. Similarly, the FBI director right now flies around in a Gulfstream 550 with a pilot. That pilot is the person who was the case agent on the Mar A lago classified documents case where we saw the worst weaponization example in recent memory, where armed FBI agents took over a former president's house and went through his wife's underwear drawer. There's been no accountability.
Walker Wildmon Yeah, this, Stephen, just to put a bow on this, we're going to have to see some, some serious reforms publicly like this. You can only say we're doing stuff behind the scenes. Trust me, for so long, which is what Bongino's been saying and leading into this, I had no reason to doubt Bongino. But, but we need to see, like, hey, this entire division is shutting down. this entire division is being, you know, repositioned. We're not doing this anymore. and I don't know why everything has to be shrouded in secrecy as well. I mean, this is a public, they are public servants. This is a, a law enforcement entity serving under the doj, under the president, under the behest of the president. And we can be briefed on organizational changes that they're doing. I mean, not everything's classified. Not everything. Everything's top secret. So I agree that we need more shock and awe and more long term systemic reforms, so that when you get a Gavin Newsom as president or, Kamala Harris as president, we're not sitting here having the same conversations about all the bad stuff they're doing and how we didn't do anything about it, when we were in charge. Hey, Stephen, thanks so much for coming on. Tell our folks your website how I can read more about your work.
Steve Friend Oh, thank you very much. Yeah, people can find me on X at Real Steve Friend and I have a podcast called the American Radicals Podcast, which you can get on itunes, Spotify, Iheart, and it's available on Rumble.
Walker Wildmon All right, thanks, Stephen. Appreciate you coming on, brother.
Steve Friend You got it.
Stephen Friend is a former special agent with the FBI
Walker Wildmon All right, there you have it. That Stephen Friend, former special agent with the FBI and a whistleblower, with the FBI as well, surrounding around his January 6th experience and being re prioritized, if you will, away from very serious crimes in his position to, handling January 6th stuff and all the scandal that that was. Let's, move to our next guest. Chris Elston is with us. Chairman, founder of We Speak Truth. And he's with us now to talk about the dangers of these medical transitions, these life altering surgeries of minors. Chris, welcome to the program. Hey, Chris, are you there? All right, we'll try.
Chris Elston Yes, I'm here. Sorry about that. I had the mute button on.
Walker Wildmon That's all right. I thought we were.
Chris Elston Thank you so much for having me.
Walker Wildmon Yeah, glad to have you on. I thought we were connected because I didn't hear the, you know, the hang up sound, but, glad to get you unmuted.
Billboard Chris says children cannot consent to puberty blockers
Hey, Chris, tell us, tell us a little bit about your background or before we jump, you know, deep into this issue of minors and these so called transition surgeries, give us a little bit about your background or how you ended up on this topic.
Chris Elston Sure. So some of your listeners will better know me as Billboard Chris, because for about five years now I've been on a campaign traveling around the world and wearing a sign that says children cannot consent to puberty blockers. I've got one as well, which is my definition of a dad, which is a human male who protects his kids from gender ideology. Because I am on a mission to raise awareness about what I consider to be the greatest child abuse scandal in the history of modern medicine, which is the complete madness of giving children puberty, blocking drugs, cross sex hormones and surgeries. I used to have a real job. I was a financial advisor. I live up in Vancouver, British Columbia. But I quit my job once I learned all about this because I just felt the calling to do something. I'm not out here to chase money. I'm here to have a purpose driven life. And we cannot live in a society that doesn't know what a woman is. We can't live in a society that is harming tens of thousands of children. So I actually put a billboard up that said I love J.K. rowling back in September 2020. It lasted one day because the Vancouver politician said it was hate speech. It was hate speech to have a billboard saying that you love the world's greatest children's authority. I put up that billboard in response to a woman who put up the same sign in Edinburgh at a train station, where her sign also got taken down after a day for so called hate speech. And so part of this for me is freedom of speech. I get tired of our, freedom of speech coming under attack. People were being fired and are still being fired from their jobs for acknowledging biological reality. And we just can't live in this crazy world. So I'm out there trying to do something about it.
Chris Elston says transgender ideology further victimizes vulnerable children
Walker Wildmon Let me ask you this once again. We're talking to Chris Elston, also known as Billboard Chris, based on the work he's been doing the last four or five years. Chris, in your experience and you've had a lot of, of kind of man on the street conversations on this topic of the, the gender and transgender ideology. Are you, are you running into people that are just sold on this lunacy of, of floating sexes, meaning you can just float back and forth between sexes. Ah. Like, are they, intellectually bought into this? Or is it a very shallow kind of political belief that once you begin prying them and digging deeper, they fold and go, yeah, you're right, this is crazy. Like, what level of commitment are you experiencing of people who sympathize with this insanity?
Chris Elston That's a really good question. And 100%, there are a ton of true believers out there. So a lot of people tell me all the time, Chris, this is financially driven, this is pharmaceutical companies or whatever. And yes, of course they're making money on this. But to be honest, for these pharmaceutical companies like Abbvie, which makes this drug called Lupron, which is the main puberty blocking drug that's used, this is a relatively small line item for them on their income statement. This is driven by true believers. People believe that we have a gender identity that may be different than our sex. Why do they believe this? Well, because this is being pushed at all levels of the world. It's being pushed by international intergovernmental bodies like the UN and the World Health Organization. It's pushed by every leftist government in existence. It's in all of our schools where children who believe in all sorts of magical thinking are now being taught that, yes, some children are transgender. Well, what does it mean to be transgender? I've asked this question of thousands, tens of thousands of people. Nobody can tell me because it doesn't exist. But ultimately it comes down to stereotypes. So now we're going to take a girl who likes boy toys, boy sports, climbing trees, playing in the dirt, throwing around the football, hates long hair, and we're going to tell her that she's actually a, boy on the inside. Total madness. But the kids who are affected by this overwhelmingly have other mental health comorbidities. It's not just one thing. According to the best data we have out of England, where they did a comprehensive review through their National Health Service, 70% of the kids had five or more coexisting mental health comorbidities. Autism is extremely prevalent, as is sexual abuse, m mothers with borderline personality disorder, all sorts of things. But it's all the most vulnerable kids who aren't fitting in. And this cult of gender comes along and tells them the reason for their discomfort is because they were born in the wrong body. And by transitioning, they're going to feel better.
Walker Wildmon Chris, the way you're describing. This is undeniable. I mean this is an undeniable fact. Everything you said is hard truth. And what it leads me to believe is as a society, anyone or institution who is bought in on this garbage, they are responsible for. What you're saying is they're further victimizing people, children who already have issues like the vast majority of these minors already have other things going on, whether it's mental, emotional, home life, et cetera. And then our so called experts are coming on top of their other issues and adding more issues of which are irreversible. And that is this mutilation of children via surgeries that you can't take back. so this is like the re victimization or the further victimization of a lot of young people who are already struggling with things. I mean this is like evil upon evil, Chris, 100%.
Chris Elston And when you look at the authorities in the medical world, when you look at the people writing the policy, they themselves are originally victims to this because so many of them identify as trans. We have people who have fully bought into this themselves, who have harmed themselves, who are now the ones writing the policy for other kids struggling with the same thing. I actually just had a five day court hearing earlier this year in Australia where the esafety commissioner in Australia, which is this government official, she's actually an American woman now living there. Her job is to censor the Internet for the entire world. And they deemed one of my posts to be cyber abuse last year when I named a woman, a woman, the woman named Teddy Cook. This is a woman who posts to her social media, bestiality, bondage, orgies, all sorts of terribly inappropriate things. M and she's not a medical professional, but naturally because she identifies as a man, she was appointed to the World Health Organization to write the policy along with 20 other so called experts for kids and adults all over the world. So I criticized this appointment and I called her a woman which deemed the Australian government to consider that cyber abuse. I won this freedom of speech case down under. Elon Musk had also appealed. That was a big win this year. But my point that I'm making is that in so many of these cases we have these individuals themselves, and I do call this a cult that were first victims of this cult. And like all cults, they then become the recruiters and the perpetrators and they're the ones really pushing this. And no matter where you look, whether it's the Children's Hospital of Los Angeles where Johann Ellison Kennedy is married to a woman identifying as a Man. Or the president of the World Professional association for Transgender Health himself, a man identifying as a woman. Or the psychologist at Kaiser Permanente who admitted that they were cutting off the breasts of 12 year old girls and castrating 16 year old boys. She identifies as a man. It's the same thing everywhere you look. So you have all these true believers pushing this with the support of the biggest governmental bodies in the world. So how do we stop it? We stop it by telling the truth, having conversations one person at a time. That's what I'm doing. That's what we're doing here today. So thank you so much for having me on.
Walker Wildmon Absolutely.
Chris Elston launches nonprofit to fight anti-LGBT bias in children
Wow. This has been very enlightening. Chris Elston, who we've been talking to, also known as Billboard Chris, work that he's been doing. Chris, we've got about two minutes left. Tell our folks your website and maybe some of your social media handles so they can track your work.
Chris Elston Sure. So there's billboard chris.com. but I've got a new website because I've just launched a nonprofit in the United States. That website's going to be a bit better. It's We Speak Truth.com on all social media. It's illboard. Chris, you'll find a lot of my videos on YouTube. That's easier to find in there. Most of my political commentary, of course, is going to be on X, but I'm on Instagram and Facebook and everything. But yes, please do follow me along there. And for me, I think a lot of times society seems people are afraid to talk about this subject. But I don't think it's so much that people are afraid. I think it's that they don't know how. And so we need to constantly reaffirm the positive messaging, which is that children are beautiful just as they are. No drugs or scalpels needed, that there's no right or wrong way to be a girl or a boy. This ideology teaches that there is. That's not progressive. But all these people think they're the progressive ones. So we just need to get back to reality, use common sense language and keep pushing this common sense message that our children are perfect just as they are, and they don't need some ideology to come along telling them they need to change their body to find true happiness.
Walker Wildmon Amen. Hey, Chris, do you know, Katie Foust at them before us?
Chris Elston I do.
Walker Wildmon Okay, great. Because you guys would fit well together. Your work. M so, great. Glad you guys know each other. She's doing great work as well. Along the same lines that you're doing. And, good to hear that you got a non profit set up in the US if you need to seek refuge down here, we'll do our best to protect your constitutional rights, even though we've got our own issues we're working on domestically. Hey, Chris, keep up the good work, brother, and thanks for coming on.
Chris Elston All right, thanks for having me.
Chris Elston is the founder and chairman of We Speak Truth Foundation
Walker Wildmon All right. WeSpeakTruth.com is that URL, for the new, website that he's got set up, We Speak Truth dot com. And, Chris is, out of Canada, a Canadian citizen, and the founder and chairman of We Speak Truth Foundation. Very, very heavy topic, very important topic. And, it falls right in line, folks, with what the scripture says about being deceived, about falling for the ways of the world. and once you, once you compromise on truth, folks, it doesn't stop. And we, we thought we were debating about who can, quote, marry who, which partnership should be recognized by the government. This goes back 15 years ago, 20 years. And fast forward now we can't even figure out what a man is and a woman. And then they're castrating children. I mean, this evil knows no limit. And this is why we have to set up our culture and define our culture based on biblical truth. We'll see you next time.
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American Family Radio welcomes Tim Todd to the show
Walker Wildmon Welcome to The Core here, here on American Family Radio. Glad to have you with us. That was a natural repeat there. That was no audio mistake. Hear, hear. I probably couldn't do that again even if I tried. Glad to have you with us on the program. Walker Wildmon here, American Family Radio. This show is at the core heard each weekday here on afr. And Rick Green and myself, we host the show for you each week and hopefully you enjoy it and maybe that's why you keep coming back. We had a good event last week. I was out the latter part of last week down in Mobile, Alabama. We had a great night of fellowship with some of our supporters down there. So, we enjoyed that. We're trying to travel the country and have dinner, and fellowship with our supporters and so will be in Richmond, Virginia in the fall and we'll be a couple other places as well. Wichita, Kansas. Let me turn our attention to the scripture and then we'll go to our guest, our good friend Tim Todd.
Bread obtained by falsehood is sweet to a man, but afterward it's gravel
we're in Proverbs chapter 20 this week and looking, there's a lot of wisdom here. but looking at verse 17. Bread obtained by falsehood is sweet to a man, but afterward his mouth will be filled with gravel. Bread obtained by falsehood is sweet to a man, but afterward his mouth will be filled with gravel. So gain through falsehood, gain through deception, and gain through sin, ultimately isn't sweet. And that's what the proverb here is teaching. There's ultimately a price to pay for gains, that are sought through sin and through deception. And we all know that the ultimate judgment comes on judgment day for those who have obtained things through falsehood, through deception and through non honest gain. That's Proverbs chapter 20, verse 17. Tim Todd is with us. Evangelist Tim Todd, President founder of Revival Fires International Revival Fires Ministry.
American Family Radio has been reaching young people with the gospel for 25 years
Tim, welcome back to the program.
Rev Tim Todd Glad to be here, Walker. Appreciate you having me on your program.
Walker Wildmon You know Tim, it feels like three months ago we were doing this, but it's been a year. And every August for 25 years you've been on AFR, you began partnering with my grandfather Don Wildmon, who shared this vision with you on reaching young people in our school systems with the gospel, with the truth of God's word. So give us, bring us up to speed 25 years. Over a million Bibles, correct?
Rev Tim Todd Yes, 1.3 million Bibles. And we're so thankful for what God is doing. we give the Bibles to teenagers that commit to give them to their friends in school that don't know Jesus. And so I like to call it legally smuggling Bibles into America's public school.
Walker Wildmon Sounds fine to me. Sounds good to me.
Rev Tim Todd So it of course is legal for young people to give Bibles away. And on the back cover of the Truth for Youth Bible, we put the students legal rights on public school campus and we encourage the young people to boldly go on their school campus, find somebody that they know that is not serving the Lord, and to give them a copy of the Truth to Youth Bible. And of course it has students or it has comic stories in the front that deal with the truth about things that young people are up against on a regular basis.
Walker Wildmon Now did you. I, may be making this up or speaking out of turn. Didn't you guys recently update the comics?
Rev Tim Todd We are in the process right now.
Walker Wildmon We're in the process of updating them.
Rev Tim Todd And one of the brand new comics that will be in the next edition, Walker, is the truth about Transgender Ideology. And we've our young people to know, that they have an identity in Christ. And that no matter what the liberal news media is saying and social media is saying that they can find their true identity in the Lord Jesus Christ. And so it's a powerful story. In fact, your dad had Art Aris on the program, Today's Issues earlier today that wrote the comic story for transgender ideology. And then one of your, the workers at the stand actually came up, here, at afa, came up with the title for our, comic. And it's called Dangerous, ah, Confusion, which is, just very timely for this particular story. And so. But we give the Bibles to the teenagers. They give them away in school. We've given away 1.3 million. We've received decision cards from young people that have given the heart to the Lord Jesus Christ. More than 30,000 in the 25 years that we've been on the air, with AFR. And of course, one of them 25 years ago when we started this project was from Purvis, Mississippi. We had a coach that called in to revival fires and said, hey, we heard on American Family Radio free Bibles for students. And we gave one to that coach. He said, I know just who I want to give it to. He gave it to a troubled young man in his, in Purvis, Mississippi, on his football team and smoking pot, drinking and carrying on. And so he brought that Truth for Youth Bible and he interrupted a class period. The coach walked in there, threw that Bible on the desk of that young man and said, you need to read this. And so very matter of fact, so that young man after school read all the comics in the front and he gave his life to the Lord, got called into the ministry, and now 25 years later, would you believe he is now my pastor? I love it. In west, Monroe, Louisiana, church of 800 to 1,000 people. And ah, so you know, the Bible says some seed fell in good soil and produced a hundredfold harvest in return. And then chapter 8, verse 11 of Luke says, the seed is the word of God. So one bold coach gave one Truth for Youth Bible to one troubled young man. And as a result of it, he got saved. He was called into the ministry. And now I have the privilege and honor of calling him my pastor for our family.
Walker Wildmon Amen. Praise God. That's the ultimate testimony, from your vantage point, the ultimate personal testimony of how God used the ministry of truth for youth, to ultimately bless your family through the local church and through your pastor. And the, this one thing that I think is encouraging. Tim.
American Family Radio is sending free Bibles to teens this week
Once again, we're talking to Tim Todd. truth for you. The Bible Week is this week on AFR. You can go to Revivalfires.org or you have a shortened URL, right?
Rev Tim Todd Yes.
Walker Wildmon TFY.org TFY.org I heard that this morning. T F Y.org to order your free Bible. Once again, we're targeting ages 13 to 18 on American Family Radio. This week, we going to send you a Bible for free. So if you have a teen 13 to 18 in your household down the street, maybe your neighbor or someone you go to church with, and they're willing to take this Bible to school and give it to one of their friends or one of their. One of their classmates. This is the purpose of the campaign. So you're not going to be charged shipping, you're not going to have to donate. We just want to send these Bibles and get them into the hands of students all around the country. T f y. You can go there and fill out.
Rev Tim Todd The form and the 800 number, too.
Walker Wildmon Yes, yes, we've got the 800 number. Give that number out real quick.
Rev Tim Todd 8007-3347-3780-0733-4737.
Walker Wildmon Excellent, excellent. So you can go to tfy.org or the number that Tim just gave out, and we'll give that out again before we wrap up the segment.
Walker: Some students may feel unequipped to share the gospel
But Tim, what, what I was. My thought was is that some students may feel unequipped to share the gospel or to convince a friend of the truth of God's word. Because we've all been in these conversations where some people are going through stuff that's just so challenging, so difficult, that you think to yourself, what can I do? Like, how can I articulate God's word? and maybe you only have five minutes with this person. God's word does all that for us.
Rev Tim Todd Yes.
Walker Wildmon And we don't have to feel this pressure that we've got to convince somebody else of the truth of God's word and God's plan for salvation through Jesus. We can simply give them the word of God, in this case, the entire New Testament, and let the word of God do its work. And the work of God, through the power of the Holy Spirit, God can convict people's hearts without us. We can give the word of God, Holy Spirit works and lives are changed. That happened with the young gentleman who's now your pastor. Maybe not so young anymore. but this happens every day. You guys have getting Thousands. You mentioned 30,000 testimony, testimonies. God's word is sufficient now. We need to be good examples. We need to be witnesses. We need to be salt and light. We need to be a living example of what God has done in us, but we don't need to feel, and students don't need to feel this burden that they've got to save their friend. That's what God's word is for, right?
Rev Tim Todd That sure is, Walker. And you know what's so exciting is that with the truth for youth, New Testament, we have 100 pages of comic stories in the front. And so not only do these comics deal with the truth about things that our young people are up against on a regular basis, but incorporated into each one of the short stories, we give the plan of salvation. So they get that plan of salvation in every one of the issues that we're dealing with. And then at the close of it, scripturally, we show them how they can give their life to Jesus Christ, how they can, find, their way to the foot of the cross and get saved. And then what they need to do after they give their heart to the Lord, they send in a decision card or an email to let us know that they gave their heart to the Lord. And then we contact them and connect them with a youth pastor in a local area, wherever they live. And so it's a win win situation. So the word of God will not return void. It will accomplish what God intends for it to accomplish. And then those comic stories draw the reader in. And so we're seeing great results that have happened as a result of it.
Walker Wildmon Amen. Praise God. All it takes. Tim, honestly, and this is the case with any salvation story. It takes one testimony to be convinced this is worth it.
Rev Tim Todd Right?
Walker Wildmon One life transformed is worth all the work that we and you guys at, ah, revival fires put into this project. 800-733-4737. That's the number to call in if you're listening. Now you want one of these truth for you New Testament Bibles. 800-733-4737 TFY.org you can call in one per, per, ah, teen. Right, one per teen. And I want, I want to note Tim as a dad and of course you're a father as well. The, the reason you guys are targeting 13 to 18 here is, which should be late middle, which would be middle school and high school, basically. is that these comics are heavy hitting. Yes, of course, the word of God is heavy hitting.
Rev Tim Todd Right.
Walker Wildmon It doesn't, doesn't dance around the issues. but the comics are heavy hitting too. And I want to speak to the parents that may be a little naive to think that, well, my kid doesn't hear about that at school, the reality is there's a lot of stuff that happens in the public school and even private school for that matter. I've heard horror stories at private Christian schools. we need to be speaking to our young people about these hard hitting issues. We can't just let them hear about it from the world. That's the importance of these comics.
Rev Tim Todd Yes. And you know, things like drugs and drunkenness and peer pressure, things like pornography and sexual purity and what the Bible says about these things. And our young people, they're getting just a steady diet from the world, from social media, from the liberal news media, from school, even school administrators and teachers. Many of them m. Thank God for Christian teachers, but not all of them are Christian teachers. And you know, we kicked God out of our schools in 1962 and 1963 and as a result of it, the devil has moved in 100%. what we need to do is get the devil out of our schools. And I believe the way that we do that is by shining the light of the gospel so that our young people can know the truth.
Walker Wildmon Yes, absolutely. And so folks, this is our truth for Youth Bible Week. And we want the last thing I'll say about the comics while we're on this is that what I love about the comics and this is what makes us different than anything else, is every story ends in the gospel. We're not presenting problems of the world and sin problems and then leaving it open ended for the youth to just figure it out. Every single story leads back to the gospel of Jesus Christ and his plan for salvation and his plan for humanity. And so that's one thing I love about it. It's not open ended. It points back to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. TFY.org, these are targeting students age 13 to 18. Whether you go to private, maybe you're even a homeschooler, but you have friends down the street that you want to give the Bible to whoever wants to call in. We're targeting ages 13 to 18. So if you're a parent, grandparent, etcetera, go ahead and call in. We'll send you a free Bible, ah, per student, to give out to their friends and fellow ah, students starting back the school year. Tim, this is a great way to shine the Gospel of Jesus Christ into our school system.
Rev Tim Todd Yes, thank you so much for the partnership with American Family Radio and all that God is doing through this project.
Walker Wildmon Amen. Thanks Tim. Appreciate it Tim. Todd, he's Going to be here all today and we'll be pushing this all week folks. Let's send over 60,000, 65,000 is our goal Bibles into the hands of students of young people all around this country. We've heard from tens of thousands of young people who've had their lives transformed by the power of the Holy Spirit, by the gospel of Jesus Christ. Their lives will never be the same because you helped get these Bibles into our classrooms and into our schools. So this is an opportunity folks. You wonder how can I be salt and light? This is it. Truth4Youth T F Y.org T F Y.org.
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Stephen Friend is a former special agent with the FBI
Walker Wildmon Welcome back to The Core here on American Family Radio. Well if you missed the last segment or you just want the information one more time, we had Tim Todd on talking about the New Testament copies of the Truth for Youth Bible that we're sending in to schools all around the country through our youth. And the URL for that is tfy.org you can go there and fill out the form, one copy per student. That's our standard because we are shipping these for free and printing them. the cost is covered by AFR and Tim Todds ministry and so there's no cost to you to get these New Testament copies into your hands, into the hands of students. 800-733-4737. That's the number 800 733-473 7 all. Ah right, let's jump to our next guest. Steven Friend is with us. He's a former special agent with the FBI, joined them in 2014 and has also been a whistleblower within, within the federal government. And he's here to talk about his experiences under the last administration leading up to where we are now. Stephen, welcome to the program.
Steven Friend Well thank you very much for having me today.
Walker Wildmon Well Stephen, give us, give us a little bit about your bio. Give us a little, a little bit of your background starting from when you left local law enforcement and moved into the, the FBI. And then what led you to where you are today?
Steven Friend Well I was a police officer in Georgia for a number of years and joined the FBI 2014. So they typically take people with law enforcement experience and put them in more remote locations where you wouldn't need as much oversight. So that's exactly what happened to me. I wound up in northwest Iowa, northeast Nebraska area working on Indian Reservations for about seven years doing violent crime, was a member of the SWAT team and then tried to get a little bit closer to home after that time and wound up transferring to Daytona beach, which is a sub office for Jacksonville's division, and took that transfer to work on child exploitation, human trafficking cases in 2021, but was reassigned to work on the Joint Terrorism Task Force to beef up the manpower for the largest and most important significant case in the history of the country, per the FBI, which was the January 6th case. And what I saw going on with those investigations, I had a number of concerns that I wound up bringing forward to my supervisors in August of 2022 where effectively they were manipulating the cases to make terrorism look like it was far worse than it actually was. And that's actually been recently, borne out. And the director of National Intelligence, Tulsa Gabbard has revealed that to be accurate, she did that a couple weeks ago. And secondly the use of SWAT teams to arrest people who were cooperative was tremendous concern. Being a SWAT guy myself, being a civil rights enthusiast myself, they were going to set a SWAT team in my office to arrest someone who had pledged to cooperate fully, had an attorney, no expectation that was going to happen, hadn't even had any contact with the FBI for a year and a half. So those concerns necessitated my removal because I was not a member of Police Battalion 101 apparently wasn't willing to just follow orders, so was removed in September 2022 about 30 days after coming forward as a whistleblower. And here I sit now. It's been 10, 50 days since I was removed.
Walker Wildmon Wow, there's a lot we can unpack there. I covered your story briefly in passing, but I don't even think I mentioned your name. But the, what you mentioned, when I, when I say your story, I'm talking about you being reassigned or told to focus in on the J6 cases and not what you are primarily supposed to be doing at the FBI when you move down to Florida. Tell us about that because that's, that in and of itself is scandalous that the Biden DOJ and FBI decided that the on, on the worst day, the rioters and protesters of January 6 were a higher priority than child exploitation. So talk about what you were focused on originally and then what they told you you should be focused on.
Steve Friend Well I was really a, ah, one man band in my office, only had eight agents. So I took on the responsibility of any sort of child exploitation cases, child pornography, human trafficking, was doing that for officially a few months before they reassigned me. But there really just wasn't work to do. And this all comes down to one of the biggest problems that exists within the FBI that nobody knows about, and that is the fact that there's a quota system that they develop for themselves every single year. They set out metrics, they call them goals for themselves to hit to justify their existence, to get an enhanced budget. So there's a tremendous pot of money attached to national security, attached to terrorism, and depending on who the president is, in this case with Joe Biden administration, they really wanted to go after conservatives and label them as terrorists. So that was how January 6th was a giant boondoggle, because the way the FBI typically would carry any investigation of whatever happened for it would be one investigation in Washington, D.C. where the incident happened. But instead they located names of anybody who might be connected to that and opened a separate case for each person. So we turned one case into 2500 cases, and then wherever the person lived, we assigned it to that office on paper, even though you really weren't responsible for much for managing the case. So now we have the false illusion. You look at the map and you see that there's 2,500 terrorists around the country, when in effect, it at worst was people who were engaging in some m. Low level of violence at the Capitol. But more often than not, it was someone who just went on a guided tour of the People's House. So that was what they did. And they did it to personally enrich themselves as well. It wasn't just bureaucratic because they wanted to go back to Congress and say, we have so many terrorists, we need more funding. But executives within each office get bonuses because their subordinates hit the metrics that they set for them. So you got senior executives getting $50,000 bonuses just because agents are opening the right number of terrorist cases and arresting the right number of people, regardless of the fact of the circumstances of the case. You're not really following due process at that point. You're treating it more like creating widgets in a factory. And that's not really what law enforcement is about.
Walker Wildmon Yeah, yeah, it's. It's a performance, ah, based model for law enforcement that, that seems a little risky there. as far as refocusing your attention based on some incentive structure instead of just doing your job, and prioritizing based on the gravity of the crime, which is historically what happens. did you, did anybody come in behind you and pick up these, these terrible cases that you guys were managing as far as the Child trafficking, the human trafficking, the exploitation of minors, all of those, those heart wrenching, horrific crimes that should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Did anybody come in and backfill the void there or was this stuff just dropped?
Steve Friend Well, when I was there, I was told that they were not a priority and that they should be outsourced to local law enforcement. Now I benefited from the fact that there was a, a vacuum in leadership in my office, a retirement of a mid level manager, and before his replacement came in, it was just kind of a guy in the office holding the seat warm. And he essentially told me that I could continue to work the cases as long as it didn't conflict with any terrorism cases. And we didn't have any terrorism cases to work. So, I continued doing it, but ultimately when I was removed from duty, all those cases were closed out. And then when the public became aware of me and the work I was doing and how those reassignments happened, even to the extent where they were sending agents like myself to go do surveillance of parents at school board meetings, there was quite a bit of public outcry. And from what my understanding was, they arranged for another agent to transfer to the office and, and take up those cases. And I actually, interesting enough, got a phone call from this agent asking me questions about the cases that I had worked, trying to get help on them, even though I was a technically not a sworn law enforcement officer, which doesn't really speak well, the, the capability or competence of that agent.
Walker Wildmon Yeah, that, that, the fact that, that you couldn't, basically, you couldn't even find terrorism cases until they started making them up based on J6. but what you're saying is there wasn't true like textbook terrorism cases there, but there was a lot of these other cases, right? That of issues, of alleged crimes. And then you, you're told to focus on terrorism and you're like, hey, there is no terrorism. And they say, wait, there's January 6th, we'll turn it into terrorism. the SWAT team usage. I mean this was, this happened multiple times. I lost count. But I know the, the, like, the textbook cases are Roger Stone, they, they, they got Michael Flynn in the airport. Not Michael Flynn, I'm sorry. They got the Trade representative Peter Navarro. Yeah, they got Peter Navarro in the airport unnecessarily, right? This guy's like in open communication with the FBI and they want to show up at the gate or in the airport and arrest him and make a scene. And but Talk about that. Because this was heavy handed use of law enforcement and tactical type teams with people that were showing no signs of resistance, no signs of fleeing, no signs of harming other people. I mean this could have been a phone call, hey, show up at the FBI office or the courthouse tomorrow at 2:00'. Clock.
Walker Wildmon But instead they bust in SWAT teams full of 10 to 15 people.
Steve Friend This is exactly the weaponization that we were talking about during the last election cycle. Because the FBI made the process, the punishment. It has its tools and its goodies and it wants to justify having them and using them. And that's when they got away from their prime directive. Directive is you follow process, due process, I think I read about that in some pesky old document. But the due process is you follow the facts, present them at court. And if the facts support a conviction, then that's because the facts did not because you're such a great agent. If the facts don't support that conviction, it's because the facts didn't. It's not because you did a lousy job. But instead the FBI was interested in the outcome, not the process. And the outcome for them was sending a message and was punishing people who they perceived to be politically inconvenient for them or the next target that the, the executive office wanted them to go after.
The FBI devolved its national security mission from going after real terrorists
And even just to tie it to the last comment about the, the terrorism angle and the fact that there's not a lot of terrorism, that that is true. And, and as a result of bureaucracy that the FBI is, the B stands for bureau bureaucracy. It's essentially Skynet, where the Terminator movies show Skynet as ones and zeros, artificial intelligence. It comes to the inevitable conclusion that the people are the problem and has to go after them. It's not good or evil, it's just programming. Well, as a bureau, as a bureaucracy, the FBI devolved its national security mission set from going after real terrorists, which there weren't very many of them. We need to get funding and capabilities and personnel and manpower. We got to keep growing. So then they re characterized people as being homegrown violent extremists. Then domestic violent extremists, then militia violent extremists, moms at school board meetings, anti government, anti authority violent extremists, which are people according to the FBI, have a perception of government overreach or negligence. So conservatives, and then we can label them as domestic terrorists and we have all the, the goodies, all the tools in the Batman belt to go after them. And no One wants to brief up the chain of command all the way to the Hoover Building that they didn't send the SWAT team to go get the vile, vicious terrorist.
Walker Wildmon You know, once again we're talking to Stephen Friend, former FBI special agent and whistleblower as well with the federal government. Stephen, it seems to be there's two motivations here. You mentioned the financial and the budget. Motivation to just continue to grow this FBI for the sake of the institution.
Steve Friend Right.
Walker Wildmon Just make it bigger and bigger and get more money and everybody gets incentives, et cetera. I think the higher up political motivation is to squelch speech and to squelch political opposition. And you alluded to this, but I think those two priorities can go parallel. And I think they were going parallel in that the Bidens of the world, they're not really in the day to day like budgetary debates and here's how we need more money and we got to make this division bigger. They're in. I don't like Trump, I don't like maga, I don't like conservatives. So we're going to, this is going to serve a dual purpose. This is going to squelch speech, it's going to intimidate our political opponents. And by the way, we'll just grow the bureaucracy while we're at it. Does that seem like a fair assessment?
Steve Friend Yes. It's not an if or it's an and also situation. And then another element to this, yet another element where it's the intelligence aspect, where intelligence is driving missions like it's a military and that's not what law enforcement is. You should never have an intelligence agency with guns. That's the Cheka, that's the Stasi, that's, that's the FBI at this point. And the intelligence personnel, the intelligence analysts in the FBI are essentially leftists who get paid to write term papers on whatever they want, which is trying to present Christians and, and white people in this country as being the enemy. And then those intelligence bulletins and products are imbibed and laundered into operations and they drive the quota system which then in fact drives the, the operational end of it. And we're going to have to label these people as being violent actors. We have to take kinetic action against them. And in to make sure that we do that. We even write the policy that says that, well, if a person has a firearm, regardless of the second Amendment, again I read that in a pesky, dusty document. if there don't even have to be a prohibited person if you Own a firearm. The FBI is justified in sending a tactical team and a Bearcat at your house at 6:00 in the morning, which.
Walker Wildmon Would be virtually everybody in the country that owns a firearm, statistically. yeah, if you apply that standard to everybody across the board, then you're going to have tactical teams showing up for every crime, high and low. the, what I want to ask you about now is the current FBI. I like Cash Patel, I like Dan Bongino. It seems like, they're doing some good stuff over there. How much can be done within the current confines? And then what? And then do we need some more revolutionary change? Meaning, like, deconstructing certain divisions, like, how much can they do with what they got today versus, like some major reforms? Meaning shutting down different divisions or reorienting divisions.
Steve Friend That is their prime directive. That is what they should have gone in and done, and that is what they have not done. And I'm. I hate to be a little bit vanta black with my outlook on this, but if you ask me to grade their performance of both the director and the Deputy director, I give them, without, question, an F at this point. Because they went in when they tried to win hearts and minds. And, and they had the false presupposition that all the good men and women of the FBI, as they like to call them, were, rigorous obedience to the Constitution. That was their default setting. As opposed to people who were Police Battalion 101 who just followed orders and kept their heads down for the last few years, and, and then have now tapped them on the shoulder and gotten them distracted, saying, let me show you the secret James Comey room. and the documents in a burn bag, which you could access at any point on any classified system within the FBI, because the FBI doesn't use typewriters or candlelight to generate documents. So that's a complete charade. Now, they should have gone in and used shock and awe rather than hearts and minds and eliminated a lot of these people. Instead, they promoted them. They promoted Steven Jensen, who was the architect of the January 6th investigations. They promoted Brian Driscoll, who refused to cooperate with Pam Bondi and hand over the list of employees who worked on January 6th. Yeah, and those are just two people that have been moved back. And they went after and promoted people who were tyrants against coronavirus. people who did not want to get back vaccinated. Yeah, and look, I mean, I'm in this, I'm siloed in it. but I'll just Give an analogy. There's a reason that no one, in polite company can say that Bill Cosby was a brilliant comedian, actor, performer, and that is because what we knew about him at the end of his life. Now, similarly, if you knew nothing else other than this one fact, tell me what grade you would give him. The pilot or the FBI director.
Walker Wildmon Currently headed into a break. We'll be back.
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Steve Friend gave the FBI an F for its leadership under new leadership
Walker Wildmon Welcome back to the core. We had a, rude break, hard break that cut Stephen off mid thought as he was wrapping up his assessment of the FBI. So we brought him back for a couple more minutes so he can wrap up that thought. All right, Stephen, you were giving us. The question was, what would you. How would you assess, what the FBI is doing today under the leadership of Cash Patel as Director, Dan Bongino's deputy Director. Of course, they're under Pam Bondi as Attorney General. so back to that thought. You were giving your assessment and you gave them an F, but you were elaborating on that, so continue.
Steve Friend Yeah, and just to close the loop on it, look, the. The director and the FBI director are continuously talking about how they're being briefed up on the most important cases all the time, every single day. That means they haven't reviewed the org chart for the FBI where they are respectively 13 and 14 levels of bureaucracy above a case agent working a case. That's not their job. Their job is to set the vision, move the chess pieces around the board, reprioritize. And they're not doing that. But they feel busy. They're being distracted by the people that are there, the good and faithful servants. And look, the last thing I was sort of using the analogy was Bill Cosby, vile, vicious, horrible person. Nobody can say he's a good comedian because of what he did to those women. Similarly, the FBI director right now flies around in a Gulfstream 550 with a pilot. That pilot is the person who was the case agent on the Mar A lago classified documents case where we saw the worst weaponization example in recent memory, where armed FBI agents took over a former president's house and went through his wife's underwear drawer. There's been no accountability.
Walker Wildmon Yeah, this, Stephen, just to put a bow on this, we're going to have to see some, some serious reforms publicly like this. You can only say we're doing stuff behind the scenes. Trust me, for so long, which is what Bongino's been saying and leading into this, I had no reason to doubt Bongino. But, but we need to see, like, hey, this entire division is shutting down. this entire division is being, you know, repositioned. We're not doing this anymore. and I don't know why everything has to be shrouded in secrecy as well. I mean, this is a public, they are public servants. This is a, a law enforcement entity serving under the doj, under the president, under the behest of the president. And we can be briefed on organizational changes that they're doing. I mean, not everything's classified. Not everything. Everything's top secret. So I agree that we need more shock and awe and more long term systemic reforms, so that when you get a Gavin Newsom as president or, Kamala Harris as president, we're not sitting here having the same conversations about all the bad stuff they're doing and how we didn't do anything about it, when we were in charge. Hey, Stephen, thanks so much for coming on. Tell our folks your website how I can read more about your work.
Steve Friend Oh, thank you very much. Yeah, people can find me on X at Real Steve Friend and I have a podcast called the American Radicals Podcast, which you can get on itunes, Spotify, Iheart, and it's available on Rumble.
Walker Wildmon All right, thanks, Stephen. Appreciate you coming on, brother.
Steve Friend You got it.
Stephen Friend is a former special agent with the FBI
Walker Wildmon All right, there you have it. That Stephen Friend, former special agent with the FBI and a whistleblower, with the FBI as well, surrounding around his January 6th experience and being re prioritized, if you will, away from very serious crimes in his position to, handling January 6th stuff and all the scandal that that was. Let's, move to our next guest. Chris Elston is with us. Chairman, founder of We Speak Truth. And he's with us now to talk about the dangers of these medical transitions, these life altering surgeries of minors. Chris, welcome to the program. Hey, Chris, are you there? All right, we'll try.
Chris Elston Yes, I'm here. Sorry about that. I had the mute button on.
Walker Wildmon That's all right. I thought we were.
Chris Elston Thank you so much for having me.
Walker Wildmon Yeah, glad to have you on. I thought we were connected because I didn't hear the, you know, the hang up sound, but, glad to get you unmuted.
Billboard Chris says children cannot consent to puberty blockers
Hey, Chris, tell us, tell us a little bit about your background or before we jump, you know, deep into this issue of minors and these so called transition surgeries, give us a little bit about your background or how you ended up on this topic.
Chris Elston Sure. So some of your listeners will better know me as Billboard Chris, because for about five years now I've been on a campaign traveling around the world and wearing a sign that says children cannot consent to puberty blockers. I've got one as well, which is my definition of a dad, which is a human male who protects his kids from gender ideology. Because I am on a mission to raise awareness about what I consider to be the greatest child abuse scandal in the history of modern medicine, which is the complete madness of giving children puberty, blocking drugs, cross sex hormones and surgeries. I used to have a real job. I was a financial advisor. I live up in Vancouver, British Columbia. But I quit my job once I learned all about this because I just felt the calling to do something. I'm not out here to chase money. I'm here to have a purpose driven life. And we cannot live in a society that doesn't know what a woman is. We can't live in a society that is harming tens of thousands of children. So I actually put a billboard up that said I love J.K. rowling back in September 2020. It lasted one day because the Vancouver politician said it was hate speech. It was hate speech to have a billboard saying that you love the world's greatest children's authority. I put up that billboard in response to a woman who put up the same sign in Edinburgh at a train station, where her sign also got taken down after a day for so called hate speech. And so part of this for me is freedom of speech. I get tired of our, freedom of speech coming under attack. People were being fired and are still being fired from their jobs for acknowledging biological reality. And we just can't live in this crazy world. So I'm out there trying to do something about it.
Chris Elston says transgender ideology further victimizes vulnerable children
Walker Wildmon Let me ask you this once again. We're talking to Chris Elston, also known as Billboard Chris, based on the work he's been doing the last four or five years. Chris, in your experience and you've had a lot of, of kind of man on the street conversations on this topic of the, the gender and transgender ideology. Are you, are you running into people that are just sold on this lunacy of, of floating sexes, meaning you can just float back and forth between sexes. Ah. Like, are they, intellectually bought into this? Or is it a very shallow kind of political belief that once you begin prying them and digging deeper, they fold and go, yeah, you're right, this is crazy. Like, what level of commitment are you experiencing of people who sympathize with this insanity?
Chris Elston That's a really good question. And 100%, there are a ton of true believers out there. So a lot of people tell me all the time, Chris, this is financially driven, this is pharmaceutical companies or whatever. And yes, of course they're making money on this. But to be honest, for these pharmaceutical companies like Abbvie, which makes this drug called Lupron, which is the main puberty blocking drug that's used, this is a relatively small line item for them on their income statement. This is driven by true believers. People believe that we have a gender identity that may be different than our sex. Why do they believe this? Well, because this is being pushed at all levels of the world. It's being pushed by international intergovernmental bodies like the UN and the World Health Organization. It's pushed by every leftist government in existence. It's in all of our schools where children who believe in all sorts of magical thinking are now being taught that, yes, some children are transgender. Well, what does it mean to be transgender? I've asked this question of thousands, tens of thousands of people. Nobody can tell me because it doesn't exist. But ultimately it comes down to stereotypes. So now we're going to take a girl who likes boy toys, boy sports, climbing trees, playing in the dirt, throwing around the football, hates long hair, and we're going to tell her that she's actually a, boy on the inside. Total madness. But the kids who are affected by this overwhelmingly have other mental health comorbidities. It's not just one thing. According to the best data we have out of England, where they did a comprehensive review through their National Health Service, 70% of the kids had five or more coexisting mental health comorbidities. Autism is extremely prevalent, as is sexual abuse, m mothers with borderline personality disorder, all sorts of things. But it's all the most vulnerable kids who aren't fitting in. And this cult of gender comes along and tells them the reason for their discomfort is because they were born in the wrong body. And by transitioning, they're going to feel better.
Walker Wildmon Chris, the way you're describing. This is undeniable. I mean this is an undeniable fact. Everything you said is hard truth. And what it leads me to believe is as a society, anyone or institution who is bought in on this garbage, they are responsible for. What you're saying is they're further victimizing people, children who already have issues like the vast majority of these minors already have other things going on, whether it's mental, emotional, home life, et cetera. And then our so called experts are coming on top of their other issues and adding more issues of which are irreversible. And that is this mutilation of children via surgeries that you can't take back. so this is like the re victimization or the further victimization of a lot of young people who are already struggling with things. I mean this is like evil upon evil, Chris, 100%.
Chris Elston And when you look at the authorities in the medical world, when you look at the people writing the policy, they themselves are originally victims to this because so many of them identify as trans. We have people who have fully bought into this themselves, who have harmed themselves, who are now the ones writing the policy for other kids struggling with the same thing. I actually just had a five day court hearing earlier this year in Australia where the esafety commissioner in Australia, which is this government official, she's actually an American woman now living there. Her job is to censor the Internet for the entire world. And they deemed one of my posts to be cyber abuse last year when I named a woman, a woman, the woman named Teddy Cook. This is a woman who posts to her social media, bestiality, bondage, orgies, all sorts of terribly inappropriate things. M and she's not a medical professional, but naturally because she identifies as a man, she was appointed to the World Health Organization to write the policy along with 20 other so called experts for kids and adults all over the world. So I criticized this appointment and I called her a woman which deemed the Australian government to consider that cyber abuse. I won this freedom of speech case down under. Elon Musk had also appealed. That was a big win this year. But my point that I'm making is that in so many of these cases we have these individuals themselves, and I do call this a cult that were first victims of this cult. And like all cults, they then become the recruiters and the perpetrators and they're the ones really pushing this. And no matter where you look, whether it's the Children's Hospital of Los Angeles where Johann Ellison Kennedy is married to a woman identifying as a Man. Or the president of the World Professional association for Transgender Health himself, a man identifying as a woman. Or the psychologist at Kaiser Permanente who admitted that they were cutting off the breasts of 12 year old girls and castrating 16 year old boys. She identifies as a man. It's the same thing everywhere you look. So you have all these true believers pushing this with the support of the biggest governmental bodies in the world. So how do we stop it? We stop it by telling the truth, having conversations one person at a time. That's what I'm doing. That's what we're doing here today. So thank you so much for having me on.
Walker Wildmon Absolutely.
Chris Elston launches nonprofit to fight anti-LGBT bias in children
Wow. This has been very enlightening. Chris Elston, who we've been talking to, also known as Billboard Chris, work that he's been doing. Chris, we've got about two minutes left. Tell our folks your website and maybe some of your social media handles so they can track your work.
Chris Elston Sure. So there's billboard chris.com. but I've got a new website because I've just launched a nonprofit in the United States. That website's going to be a bit better. It's We Speak Truth.com on all social media. It's illboard. Chris, you'll find a lot of my videos on YouTube. That's easier to find in there. Most of my political commentary, of course, is going to be on X, but I'm on Instagram and Facebook and everything. But yes, please do follow me along there. And for me, I think a lot of times society seems people are afraid to talk about this subject. But I don't think it's so much that people are afraid. I think it's that they don't know how. And so we need to constantly reaffirm the positive messaging, which is that children are beautiful just as they are. No drugs or scalpels needed, that there's no right or wrong way to be a girl or a boy. This ideology teaches that there is. That's not progressive. But all these people think they're the progressive ones. So we just need to get back to reality, use common sense language and keep pushing this common sense message that our children are perfect just as they are, and they don't need some ideology to come along telling them they need to change their body to find true happiness.
Walker Wildmon Amen. Hey, Chris, do you know, Katie Foust at them before us?
Chris Elston I do.
Walker Wildmon Okay, great. Because you guys would fit well together. Your work. M so, great. Glad you guys know each other. She's doing great work as well. Along the same lines that you're doing. And, good to hear that you got a non profit set up in the US if you need to seek refuge down here, we'll do our best to protect your constitutional rights, even though we've got our own issues we're working on domestically. Hey, Chris, keep up the good work, brother, and thanks for coming on.
Chris Elston All right, thanks for having me.
Chris Elston is the founder and chairman of We Speak Truth Foundation
Walker Wildmon All right. WeSpeakTruth.com is that URL, for the new, website that he's got set up, We Speak Truth dot com. And, Chris is, out of Canada, a Canadian citizen, and the founder and chairman of We Speak Truth Foundation. Very, very heavy topic, very important topic. And, it falls right in line, folks, with what the scripture says about being deceived, about falling for the ways of the world. and once you, once you compromise on truth, folks, it doesn't stop. And we, we thought we were debating about who can, quote, marry who, which partnership should be recognized by the government. This goes back 15 years ago, 20 years. And fast forward now we can't even figure out what a man is and a woman. And then they're castrating children. I mean, this evil knows no limit. And this is why we have to set up our culture and define our culture based on biblical truth. We'll see you next time.
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