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Paul used his labor to support his ministry, according to Acts chapter 18
So you can watch the program [email protected] all right, let's turn our attention to the scriptures. We're in Acts chapter 18 this week.
Walker After these things, Paul departed from Athens and went to Corinth and he found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, who had recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla. Because Claudius had commanded all the Jews to depart from Rome and he came to them. So because he was of the same trade, he stayed with them and worked. And by occupation they were tent makers. And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath and persuaded both Jews and Greeks. So this is the continuation of Paul's story, Paul's testimony and his ministry, which, this bodes well with the topic of going to Greece and Italy in 2027, which I'll talk about here shortly. But nonetheless, what we see here, just from a very layperson's perspective, is that obviously it says Paul was a tentmaker, at least during this season of his life. And he also clearly worked with his hands, but then used his income from working with his hands to support his ministry. And so in this modern society that we live in, where working with your hands is becoming much and much, much and much less common, be encouraged. That, work is of God, it's of the Bible.
Walker And, we ought to use our labor when we earn an income to support our life as believers and to support our ministry and to support the advancement of the gospel. Work is biblical. And so we need to be pushing that narrative each and every day. As some people grow weary with their, labor and think it's somewhat purposeless. That's absolutely not the case. Our work ought to be fulfilling. It ought to be used, for the advancement of biblical things such as marriage and family and sharing the gospel and investing in your local community and so on and so forth. Acts chapter 18, that's verses one through four.
Walker Well, this show, at least the first few segments, if I can deconstruct feminism, I will have done my job well, because much of what I just keep coming across as far as societal ills have some connection to modern feminism. Now don't get me wrong, if we trace feminism even Back to the 1800s, there are portions of feminism more broadly, that I would say were right, were just, were good. But when we hit the 1900s, and specifically the 1950s and 60s, this feminist move took a very ugly turn. And it took a turn against marriage, against family, against the biblical role of male and female, against children, and began pushing very ungodly concepts and ideals. And this is where we are today, where we have much of Western civilization falling prey, falling victim to modern feminism to such an extent that it is arguably one of the primary leaders, one of the primary causes of the decline in Western civilization.
The WNBA is debating whether to allow men to compete in women's sports
Walker And we'll talk about that this segment, to start off, we'll start off a little more light hearted, if you will, kind of. And we'll talk about this WNBA fight and how the WNBA isn't really sure what the W means. The Women's National Basketball association can't seem to figure out what the W means. And when I say that, what I'm talking about is the fact that the WNBA and their management and their coaches are still debating and discussing and meeting about whether they're going to allow men to compete in the wnba. And former NBA stars have actually, created a mockery of the wnba and they're actually enrolling and applying to be in the WNBA draft. Coming up, once again, this entire, debate within the wnba, within the sporting leagues more broadly, Boils down to this rejection of God's created order of male and female. And this notion that you can be whatever you want to be. That has been the lie that has infected American society and led to this insane discussion about whether men ought to be able to play in women's sports and vice versa. It is just utterly insane. And so let's play this, clip first.
Walker This is going to be clip two. This is Royce White, who is, otherwise going by the name Roysha for the sake of getting a little bit of laugh out of this, but former NBA star Royce White, Royce White is actually. Has actually already applied to be in the WNBA draft. This guy's big burly man, can dunk on anyone. And, he says, look, I'm gonna play ball. You can call me Roysha. And my pronouns are pay me, let's listen. Well, I'm sometimes identifying as a black trans lesbian. You can call, me Rosha. That's my new name. You've, dead named me. But it's okay. We go way back, Doc. So, you know, the, people who I know have a good relationship with, I give them some grace on my, on my new name. and. And my, My pronouns are. Yeah, yeah, no, my pronouns are pay me.
Walker Okay, okay. And, I'm wondering, you know, I saw one of the. I, guess it was Sophie Cunningham's coach was talking about how kindness was going to prevail in the wnba. she of course told everyone to F off when she finished her comments. But. Okay. I'm wondering if you were being received kindly by the wnba, hierarchy.
Royce White Well, not so far. I mean, they've almost completely denied my trans existence. And I think that's tantamount to genocide. It's hateful, it's harmful to my fellow trans, bipoc. Trans, trans adjacent activists and everybody else up and down the line who have put in so much time, effort and sacrifice to uplift, and make safe trans people. So the WNBA is all but denied my existence. And again, that's tantamount to genocide.
Walker Tantamount to genocide. of course, folks, this is totally tongue in cheek. I mean, the sarcasm meter is spiking right now because Royce White is clearly a dude who is making fun of the WNBA here. This is, this is all somewhat of a joke. Although he is legitimately. He has legitimately already put in his application for the WNBA M League. Why? Because he's trying to force. He's going to force the issue. He and Enos Cantor Freedom are forcing the issue. And I just got to give him props. I mean, this is a beautiful thing. We've all said all along. Those of us who are for common sense and basic biology have said all along, if you have some six, eight, seven foot men that really want to force the issue and want to make everybody come back to reality, then apply for the WNBA and have six foot, eight, seven foot men dunking on five foot eight women and let's see how this goes. Like, let's see how long culture wants to be passive and weak and feminine and accept this insanity. It's a rejection of God's created order. It's a rejection of scientific biology and it's insanity. And the fact that our culture is having to have the debate in and of itself as a failure point. How do I connect this to feminism? Our culture and men in our culture have been so feminized. We've become so weak and driven by so many feelings that we can't just do the right thing here. We have to over complicate stuff. We have to talk too much about stuff, we have to debate stuff. We have to make sure everybody feels comfortable. Everything's feeling driven. And if you look at femininity, it is very much feeling led. Which, don't get me wrong, God created us male and female. He created us both in his image. And so feelings have a place, emotion has a place, but it ought not be. The dominating factor here, and that's the lesson of the day, is that our culture has gotten so overly sensitized that we can't just talk normal, we can't talk straight. We've got to walk on eggshells. We got to make sure we're not hurting people's feelings.
Walker We got to make sure everybody's quote included. And we've also watered down our terminology here. Instead of just man and woman, now we've got trans and lesbian and all these pronouns and all these different, you know, soup Alphabet. I mean, this is just insanity. If cultures of the past were to see what we're doing today, we would be the laughing stock of world history. I mean, we have legit problems to deal with as a society and culture of which I talk about on the program frequently. And here we are talking about whether men are going to play in the Women's National Basketball Association. Well, Enos Cantor Freedom, also former NBA player, very good player, by the way. He has recently enrolled in the WNBA draft and he actually went to a, Indiana Fever game where they were playing the Chicago WNBA team.
Walker And they, got he Got in a shouting match, but nonetheless he got kicked out and listened to how quote, unquote intolerant the WNBA was to this former NBA player showing up to the WNBA game to defend women. Clip one, Sophie Cunningham, shot at three.
Enos Freedom And I put my hands up to celebrate, right? literally, a couple position later, Natasha came back and starts screaming and yelling and said, she's not going to sleep with you. I just got up and then I was like, I'm just here to protect women. And that's all right. And then she started to yell, she started to use some very heavy language. She started to actually cuss. And I was very shocked that there was, that there were a lot of kids and there were a lot of teenagers was at that game. And I just cannot believe that she was just cussing and using those F bombs, in front of all these kids. Security guy, you know, came, and then I was like, listen, you need to leave. I was like, can you please tell me why do I need to leave? They said, you just need to leave. And they literally, I don't want to say they dragged me, but like, they pretty much like pushed me to leave the gym.
Former NBA player kicked out of WNBA game for wearing female definition shirt
Walker So, this player wearing a, women noun, a human female definition on his shirt, this former NBA player kicked out of this WNBA game because, not really sure why. Still haven't gotten clarity. Was it the shirt? Was it the fact that they didn't like his ideas and his speech, or the fact that he triggered the the lefty female basketball player for the Chicago team, well known liberal, outspoken left wing activist that she is. And so this is the new fight right now. And, and in the grand scheme of human history, some, quite a comical fight that we're having as humans trying to act like men and women aren't different. Hello. What have we been doing? You think humans in the past haven't figured this out, that men and women are different? I mean. Ah, you gotta be kidding me here. So folks, the only way to bring sanity to the conversation is to point out the lunacy. And that's what we're doing. We are pointing out the lunacy and the delusions. We'll be back in a few minutes.
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AFA Action needs volunteer panelists to evaluate candidates ahead of November elections
Walker Welcome back to The Core here on American Family Radio. Before we dive back into the deconstruction of feminism that we're aiming at today, want to share a brief way of how, you can get involved in these upcoming, elections, especially as the midterms are just right around the corner. ivoterguide is one of our three divisions over at AFA Action and they need volunteer panelists to evaluate candidates between now and November, really over the next 30 to 60 days if we're being honest. And these volunteer panelists will be provided all the information, all the tools, any different technological needs that they have in order to participate in these online evaluations of the candidates. And so we want to encourage you to go over to ivoterguide.com I did this earlier, double checked everything to make sure it's all there. You can go to ivoterguide.com click on the top right hand corner click take action and then the tab that says become a panelist. So you can go there to ivoterguide.com I'm there right now, click take action in the right hand corner and then the tab says become a panelist and you click apply now. And we will have you fill out this brief information, with your name, your state and your email and then we will be in touch to help onboard you to become a volunteer panelist. So if you've been listening to AFR for some time, you've even heard about and Used ivoterguide. And you wonder how on earth do they get all this done each election cycle? Well, it's because of you. It's because of volunteers out there, m that help us, review and evaluate the candidates. And so go to ivoterguide.com, click on the Take Action tab and become a panelist. And we will be in touch and we'll get you onboarded, hopefully, and have you, helping us compile all this information as we head into this final 30 to 60 days before the midterm election cycle, midterm, election rather, which is the first Tuesday in November. We've got to get this stuff done well before then.
Lindsay Clancy is accused of murdering her three children through strangulation
Walker Well, back into this topic of modern feminism. There's a lot of things going on right now in culture and entertainment and in the news. And this, this Lindsay Clancy trial, I don't know if you've been tracking this, but this is just horrendous, this story, it's hard to even talk about. So, and I'll try to keep it somewhat moderate, as we talk about this discussion for the sake of, you know, if you've got young kids in the car, etc. But, this, this story has to do with a mother. And I'm, once again, I'm keeping this very high level. there's a trial ongoing right now of a mother with a last name Clancy that, has been accused of and charged with the tragic murder of her own three children. Out of all the stories I've read, out of all the things I've covered, this is the worst of the worst of the worst. And so, long story short, while her husband was away, she's been accused of tragically killing her three children. So now she's on trial. And this trial by jury has brought about this topic within the media, within the news circles and within the social media world, about the core facts behind the trial. All right, what's been revealed is a couple things through this trial. The first one is that, this mother was going through and dealing with what I'm going to call demons. I mean, this mother was doped up on all kinds of prescription meds. I've read the list. It's like nearly three dozen, prescription meds that she was given over the course of like a two or three year window. So she was doped up on all these anxiety medications, antidepressants, et cetera. but the other disturbing fact here, and then the last one I'll tell you is the most disturbing, another disturbing fact. Is that no one seemed to intervene here. No one seemed to intervene or at least pick up on the fact that this mother was spiraling out of control, dealing with some serious evil, some serious demons. And then the last thing, I want to mention, that's the most disturbing fact that has been uncovered through this trial, is that there is actually this online following of women that are cheering on this mother in sympathy, like she's some hero. That is the most disturbing part of this. And I've even watched Fox News analysts, so to speak, and different show hosts across these different news outlets that are talking about this as if the mother is the victim. The mother allegedly killed through strangulation, which is the most horrendous of horrendous crimes, her three baby children. And we want to spend time on the airwaves acting like the mother is the victim here. No, thank you. The kids are the victim and the dad's the victim because his children are dead. So spare me this feminist default position of woe. Is the mother.
Walker No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. I, saw this analogy online. If this were a dad that killed his own children with his bare hands, will we be giving him our sympathy card? Absolutely not. This is insane. We become so desensitized, so dumbed down as a culture morally, that we're giving sympathy cards out to mothers who've been accused of murder of their own children. This is wicked stuff. You read Romans 1, you read some of these other passages of scripture and you go, wow, how did they do that? Well, if you read America 2026, you'd be saying the same thing. How did they do that? Did nobody say anything? What were they thinking? And so there's actually women outside of this trial cheering on the alleged murderer mother and cheering on her attorney, her defense attorney, where in their pink, which this pink has become like this, you know, symbol of modern failed feminism. The pro abortion crowd wears it now. The baby killing crowd wears it. And so let's listen to this report. This is a Fox report saying that there's, quote, dozens of women out here supporting this alleged murderer.
Walker When in reality, folks, I've seen the video. It's at least 100 women out there supporting this alleged, murderer that's on trial. Clip 4 let's listen.
Fox Reporter Today, the courtroom is packed with dozens of Clancy supporters while others outside hold signs calling for justice for her three young children taken too soon. I personally would like to see her go to jail. and I'm not saying Lindsey Clancy wasn't suffering or didn't have mental Health issues. that's not what I'm saying at all. But the real victims deserve justice. I had wicked postpartum anxiety myself, so it's always, like, a hot topic for me anyways, and something I'm passionate about. Sandra. In Massachusetts, the burden is on the prosecution to prove that Clancy knew what she was doing and that she could have acted differently. She faces life in prison without the possibility of parole if convicted of first degree murder. If she's found not criminally responsible for, for the killings, she would be committed to a state mental health facility where she would receive periodic reviews and eventually, theoretically, could be released.
Walker So you got dozens of women, by the way, all women, supporting this alleged, murderer that's on trial for murdering her own children. you've got, he said dozens in the courtroom. You got 100 plus outside. I've seen the video. They're wearing pink and they're having a party and cheering on this alleged murderer of her very own three children. I mean, where have we come to? If this is feminism, I don't want anything to do with it. Get me a thousand miles away. If this is what feminism is. And as a fact of the matter is, this is what feminism is. This is modern feminism, folks. Per abortion, anti family, and pro murder. I've seen women online now speaking out against feminism writ large now. I mean, they're raising questions about whether this whole thing was a sham to begin with. Was there any piece of this feminist movement that was good? I don't know. Not over the last 60 years, no. Thank you. I don't want anything to do with it. I mean, we've taken this thing, and this is what, folks, this is what evil does. We've taken this from women ought to be able to vote. Okay, whatever, whatever. I think the founders had some wisdom in their property ownership in the household voting. I think there was some biblical wisdom there. But if y' all want to get all upset about women not being able to vote, fine. But now we went from women being able to vote to women being able to kill their babies to women being anti marriage to women not wanting children, to now women standing outside of a trial cheering on a baby murderer. So where are we going next? What's the next stop? We're way past the time where this whole culture should have said no thank you to feminism. We're about 50 years removed from that, and the damage is broad, folks.
Erica Komisar speaks about the need for good parenting
And I just came across this, lady who's got a lot of different titles, but she's an author and speaks about parenting and the needs of children and marriages and families. And I don't know her background. I don't know if she's a born again believer or not. I absolutely have no idea. But she has a lot of wisdom here in how she's speaking about parenting, how she's speaking about children, how she's speaking about the need of men and women and moms and dads to be good parents and to develop their children emotionally and otherwise. And so this is getting into what this is all a big picture I'm trying to paint of how this feminist war on American families and masculinity has led to this path where we are today in 2026. So this is going to be clip five.
Walker This is the first clip of two of this lady named Erica Komisar talking about the need and the requirement of parents to teach, their children how to regulate their emotions, how to regulate their expectations of adulthood, and different learned behaviors that all come from parents and one's upbringing. This is going to be clip five. Let's listen.
Erica Komisar I think so binary today that what we don't tell parents is that you're going to have boring moments, you're going to have challenging moments, you're going to have imperfect parenting moments. That doesn't make you a bad parent. you know, the, the idea is that, parenting is about good enough. It was, you know, like Bruno Betelheim's book says, good enough parenting. We're not looking for perfect parents. We're looking for good enough parents who try really hard. And so, yeah, so there has to be some forgiveness for the imperfections and the. It's hard. So I'll say that I think young people today don't have frustration tolerance, have emotional regulation issues themselves, don't have a lot of patience. Remember part of, there was a book, everything I ever learned I learned in kindergarten, which talked about how in the early years, you learn the most important things in life. But in fact, in the first three years, you learn the most important things in life. You learn to regulate your emotions. You learn to wait, you know, the marshmallow test, you learn to wait. You learn to deal with frustration, you learn to share, you learn to tolerate, the word no, and you learn to adapt to structure. So these are like the things that are the most important things in life. And I think there's a lot of kids who won't have that early emotional regulation. So when they have a baby who's not doing what they want it to do or is crying or is keeping them up at night. They can't deal with the discomfort, they can't deal with the. They're impatient, they're intolerant, they can't deal with the, you know, all of those things again are about emotional maturity and emotional regulation.
Walker So what she's highlighting there is this current, and probably, well, let's just say this current generation's parents lack of properly developing their children in a way that prepares them for adulthood and specifically prepares them to be parents themselves. And the emotional regulation is a big one there. And once again, all of this stuff is biblical. Developing your emotions, not being rash, being level headed, having self control. These are biblical truths that the Lord teaches us in his scripture. Read Proverbs also. Proper expectations. What are you expecting from marriage? What are you expecting from childbearing? From parenting. And in many ways and many times we have this honestly unrealistic expectation for marriage and parenting. It's a blessing from the Lord, but that doesn't mean it's always easy. But in this social media frenzy world, we think every day is rainbow and sunshine. We think every day is going to Disney World when in reality it's absolutely not. Read the trials and tribulations that our brothers and sisters went through in the scriptures. Read the story of Job, a righteous man, the scripture says.
Walker And so we've got to raise children that are going to eventually, Lord willing, become spouses and become moms and dads to know how to regulate their emotions, know how to exercise self control, know how to have proper expectations of what life can bring, the blessings that it can bring, the trials and difficulties that it can bring. And we have to model for them what it means to be godly parents, what it means to be godly individual. And that's the lesson that all parents and grandparents can learn from as we look back on the mistakes of the past. We'll be back in a few.
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Walker Wildmon: Let's talk about what we're doing to young boys
Walker Welcome back to this last segment of today's program here on American Family Radio. It's a brief reminder. We would greatly appreciate it. If you want to listen live or watch the program, you can go over to afr.net and you can click Listen live or Watch Live, whichever one you prefer. And then we do upload the show in the form of a podcast each and every afternoon. You can find this show just type in at the The Core with Walker Wildmon and Rick Green. Click the subscribe or the Follow button and our show latest episode will be queued up in your podcast library each and every day. Well, I want to play one more clip and then we do have a guest this segment that we'll get to here shortly. but this last clip of this, author and speaker and really what appears to be an expert on parenting and raising of children, Erica Komisar. this is the last installment of these two clips I want to play. And in this one she addresses this, more feminism Invasion of Parenting, Young Boys. And this all is part of this overarching topic. We've been covering the last two segments of Modern Feminism's basically war on Biblical Masculinity and the American Family and childbearing that we're seeing the tragic results of today. but this is a clip where she is specifically talking about how for decades we've been trying to make little boys basically act like little girls. And so this is clip six. Let's listen.
Erica Komisar The other thing that we're doing is to young boys. Let's talk about what we're doing to young boys. This starts very young. We basically educate young boys in a way that really favors girls, you know, from a very young age. We talk about being able to sit quietly and regulate your emotions and not be aggressive and not be impulsive. And these little boys are being diagnosed with adhd, many of them just from being little boys. Little boys need to run around. They have a lot of physical energy. They have tons of testosterone. When you're like between three and six, you have a surge of testosterone, and all you want to do is run and jump and play and be outside. And what we're doing, we're putting them in school, making them sit in circle time. So we marginalize them. We label them, we say they have a problem. We say that they have adhd, they have behavioral problems. And in many of them, the stress that I talked about is the stress of making little boys be more like little girls. And that's where it starts. And so then they go into childhood. And again, the educational system favors the way girls Learn. Not the way boys learn. How do boys learn? Boys have attention spans for very short periods of time, and then they need lots of physical activity. So, ideally, if you go to look at the boys schools, what do they do? They run the boys, like running the dogs in the park. They sit for 45 minutes or half an hour, but then the boys get time off to run around, and then they'll sit another half an hour, and then they'll run around. I mean, they have like, four Reese's periods a day, and so that's really better for boys. And little girls have more of a capacity to sit quietly in circle time and sort of, you know, they don't have. Have as much testosterone. They don't have that need to run and jump and play to the same degree that little boys do. They do need to play. We're not letting our kids play boys and girls because we're trying to force left brain development on them too early. But we are forcing little boys into this box, and they're not doing well in that box. And then they're labeled. They're labeled as having behavioral problems, adhd. And that label then follows them through childhood, sometimes into middle school, into high school.
Walker Well, there you have it. I mean, she summarizes it even much better than I could on this, kind of bent that we've had in our society and our education system that, treats little boys being boys as some abnormal thing that's got to be treated with the ADHD over medication of young men. and so all of this has to be addressed to restore proper order in society and a proper understanding of the male, female relationship and order. And, so that's what she's referring to there. Very, very interesting topic. And we'll keep tracking this.
Pastor Jay Parks is with us from Blue Mountain Christian University
Walker Jumping to our next guest. Pastor Jay Parks is with us. He's president of the Pastor Training Schools, which is an outreach and arm of Blue Mountain Christian University. And we've had frequent guests on the program for. From Blue Mountain Christian University. Not too far up the road here. Brother. Jay, welcome to the program.
Jay Parks Thank you so much. Appreciate you having me.
There is a shortage of pastors in the pulpits of America
Walker Well, we wanted to have you on because, there is a shortage of pastors in the pulpits of America.
Jay Parks I know.
Walker my church, thankfully, we've filled the pastor role, but we went nearly two years without a pastor, and from what I hear, two years is pretty normal when it comes to looking for a lead pastor. And so, before we jump into that topic, tell us a little bit about yourself.
Jay Parks Yeah, I'm Jay Parks. I was born and raised in Oxford and, surrendered to ministry when I was 28, and pastored down in Bruce, Mississippi for a little while. And then I moved to Hawaii with North American Mission Board and planted a church in Kona, Hawaii. So I was there for about seven years. And, through a series of events, God brought us back here. And, now I'm starting to see why. So it's pretty amazing.
Walker Yeah. Well, when you and I were. You were coming into the studio and we were chatting it up, you said, I was talking about you training pastors. And you say, yeah, just to be clear, we train men. And I said, I'm glad to hear that, brother. because this, this, move, this unbiblical move, in my opinion, to insert women into the pastorate as lead pastors, is just unbiblical and it has to be addressed. And so you guys are obviously doing it right, training men to be pastors, to be. Be lead pastors and shepherds over their churches. So tell us how this was conceived. This is. Once again, we're talking to pastor Jay Parks, who's over pastor training schools of Blue Mountain Christian University. Tell us whose idea this was and how long you guys been doing this.
Jay Parks Yeah, I got involved with an organization in Eastern Africa called Church Missions Network. And, I, started walking with them on training pastors there. In Eastern Africa. We work in nine countries there and, setting up schools in rural areas with bring men in, to train for a week at a time. And they do that over two years. and that's really where all this spun out of. We were planting churches with that model there. But here the real need is bivocational pastors for revitalization of these small churches. Man, my heart beats for the small rural church like the one I grew up in that. Like you said, man, they go in this cycle, they look two years for pastor, God finally brings one. Then God moves them, then they start over again. It's this cycle that's just, man, unforgiving for a church. It's really difficult. So we got a dream of raising guys up that maybe were born there and they could possibly die there. But, man, what a great place to rise up and be the pastor of those churches, to meet, reach those communities around them. So that's kind of the vision.
Walker Yeah. And I do want to. I want to park on the, bi. Vocational need there. But before we do, give our audience just a brief overview of what the program looks like. If a man says, hey, I feel called to the pastorate. I want to be a biblical leader in our community and in my church. What does the program look like for them?
Jay Parks Yeah, so program looks like this. We basically will set it up near where somebody lives, if there's interest from say an association or a place that we want to target. I personally got a vision that I don't want a man in the state of Mississippi to wake up that feels called to the ministry, that can't get to one of our cohort locations within a 45 minute drive from being off work. And so that's a big vision. You know, it's a big vision. But that means we have to set up cohorts or groups, if you will, all over the state. And they would come to a church and say your pastor Jon would if he was going to teach one, then you would host it at your church and Jon would teach it. On Monday nights from 6 to 8:30 those men would come in, they'd go through classes like spiritual formation, Old Testament, NewSong Testament, how to study the Bible, the art of preaching, all of those, subjects over a two year period. we build a community of guys together to do that. And it's been amazing what God is doing through this. we are seeing guys that are serving in pulpit supply that are now pastors that weren't, they didn't even know they were called when they first got involved with us and just were feeling a sense that God was calling them to do more. And we helped them to walk through that call. It's just been incredible.
Walker Yeah.
Pastor Jay Parks is president of Pastor Training Schools
Once again we're talking to Pastor Jay Parks. He's president of Pastor Training Schools, which is an outreach or division of Blue Mountain Christian University. Let me give their URL real quick before we continue this discussion. PastortrainingSchools.org, pretty self explanatory. PastortclingSchools.org, that's schools with an S on the end of it. Pastor training schools dot org.
Jay Parks Yeah, I'm a wordsmith man. I could have come up with something better than that.
Walker I'm proud of you.
Jay Parks That's what we do.
Walker Why over complicate, right?
Jay Parks Yes, sir.
Let's talk about the need for bivocational pastors
Walker Hey, let's talk about the need for bivocational pastors because as you said, the, there are many churches, thank the Lord. There are a lot of churches that can afford a full time pastor and even a full time staff, because of just the number of tithes, and the number of congregates, et cetera. But there's a lot of rural churches across the country that just don't have the budget, for. And if they've got a budget for a lead pastor, they definitely don't have a budget for an associate or a full staff. So talk about that, because that's throughout American history, if we're talking in this context, bivocational has been a very common thing, a very common occurrence for men, that want to be a leader in the church, but also have a quote, day job, so to speak. So tell us a little bit about that need there.
Jay Parks Yeah. When this whole thing started, when we first started having this conversation about it with Dr. Meeks at Blue Mountain, there was hovering nearly 500 churches, Southern Baptist alone in the state of Mississippi without a pastor. 500.
Walker Wow.
Jay Parks of those, 500, 80% of them are 100 congregants or less. And about 90% of that 80% was actually less than 50. So it just tells you, the size of these churches. And you know, nowadays, there's a huge mountain between a guy feeling called and being equipped to be able to go and lead a church. And that mountain to me is education, man. Because to get theological training, you have to do master's work, right? That means first you got to finish bachelor's work. And for some guy that's like me when I was 28 and felt called a ministry, I'm like, man, I am not going back to school. I'm not going back to school. Scared to death. Yeah, we try to take all of that out and still just give these guys specific tools they need to walk into churches and pastor. And so for me, our heartbeat really is for the bivocational church. A guy can be a mechanic at Grease Monkey and he can go there on Sunday and preach with enthusiasm, a, Bible centered message and reach people and help to revitalize that church. Like, that's our dream. Those are my people.
Walker Yeah. we're at the place, Jay, where beggars can't be choosers. And we need to be careful not to be too picky here. Now, if you can find a pastor that's got a master's degree in divinity or a master's degree in, you know, from a major seminary, more power to you. That's great. Or even a doctorate. But when you're talking about a congregation of 50, 75, 100 people, we just need somebody to preach the word of God that can preach the truth of God's word and can shepherd people and disciple people. And so, what Are you seeing as far as enrollment with your program? I mean, how many men can you train, if you will, over let's say a six or twelve month period? Yeah.
Jay Parks Can I back up the statement you said, though? It's like beggars can't be choosers. I know what you meant by that. But what I want to say is, man, I think we're overlooking some amazing guys, man, that just, they don't meet, they don't meet the levels that are required to go to seminary. These guys are the best of the best, man. And I think these guys have an enthusiasm and a love, man. We need to give them opportunity to stand up and share Jesus. And I really believe they can breathe life into it. So I don't see that, I don't see that as, man, we can't be choosers. I'm, I'm thinking maybe we'd just been overlooking some really quality guys.
Walker Yeah. And my point is.
Jay Parks And I knew what you meant.
Walker Yeah.
Walker My point is that sometimes as, as believers, we get, we start being too nitpicky.
Jay Parks That's right.
Walker And over critiquing people and things. And we're not just willing to work with what's been given to us.
Jay Parks That's right.
Walker And build on something and do something, productive instead of just complaining about.
Jay Parks But the Lord's in control, man. This is his church.
Walker Yeah, absolutely.
Jay Parks And he places people strategically right where they need to be and that we just want to help equip those guys. So to answer your, though, we went from starting with one cohort and six guys to now we have 29 cohorts, 290 men in training across the state of Mississippi, a few in Arkansas, Alabama and Tennessee. I believe the Lord has told us we're going to be training a thousand men in the next year or two. I'm not exaggerating. Like, it's amazing. There's such a need. These guys are excited. They just need an avenue to plug into, to take those mountains that stand between their calling in the pulpit away from them and allow them to go and just preach the word.
Jay Parks: This could lead to revival in the rural church
Walker Let me ask you one more question about how you're choosing the cohorts. That seems to be the central element in ensuring, you know, biblical inerrancy, biblical fidelity to the scripture and solid teaching. So how are you picking your cohorts? We've got about 60 seconds.
Jay Parks Yeah. So we use local pastors that have a seminary education to teach these classes. So that's how we're steering this. And, and Basically, we set a co op hoard up in an area that, where there's a lot of bi vocational opportunities. And that's really the main thing that dictates it.
Walker Wow. This could. Brother J. Once again, we're talking to Jay Parks. This could, be what's needed to refill America's pulpits.
Jay Parks I believe it could lead to revival in the rural church.
Walker Yeah, and what it sounds like you've done here is not this overly cumbersome, overly expensive 5 to 10 year process. I mean, you guys are seem to be hitting the ground running. And how long, how long does this training last for an individual?
Jay Parks It takes two years total.
Walker Excellent. Very good. Well, there you have it, folks. let me give this website one more time. We've been talking to Jay Parks. He's president of Pastor Training Schools, which is an affiliate with Blue Mountain Christian University. One of their outreach is one of their divisions. pastortrainingschools.org Pastortrainingschools.org will link to it in the show notes. Brother Jay, thanks so much for joining us.
Jay Parks Thank you, man. It's been an honor.
Walker All right, folks, if you're a, man who wants to lead a church in the Southeast, basically, Arkansas, Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, visit PastortrainingSchools.org and Lord willing, they'll reach more states.
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Walker Wildmon joins American Family Radio to discuss new online features
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Paul used his labor to support his ministry, according to Acts chapter 18
So you can watch the program [email protected] all right, let's turn our attention to the scriptures. We're in Acts chapter 18 this week.
Walker After these things, Paul departed from Athens and went to Corinth and he found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, who had recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla. Because Claudius had commanded all the Jews to depart from Rome and he came to them. So because he was of the same trade, he stayed with them and worked. And by occupation they were tent makers. And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath and persuaded both Jews and Greeks. So this is the continuation of Paul's story, Paul's testimony and his ministry, which, this bodes well with the topic of going to Greece and Italy in 2027, which I'll talk about here shortly. But nonetheless, what we see here, just from a very layperson's perspective, is that obviously it says Paul was a tentmaker, at least during this season of his life. And he also clearly worked with his hands, but then used his income from working with his hands to support his ministry. And so in this modern society that we live in, where working with your hands is becoming much and much, much and much less common, be encouraged. That, work is of God, it's of the Bible.
Walker And, we ought to use our labor when we earn an income to support our life as believers and to support our ministry and to support the advancement of the gospel. Work is biblical. And so we need to be pushing that narrative each and every day. As some people grow weary with their, labor and think it's somewhat purposeless. That's absolutely not the case. Our work ought to be fulfilling. It ought to be used, for the advancement of biblical things such as marriage and family and sharing the gospel and investing in your local community and so on and so forth. Acts chapter 18, that's verses one through four.
Walker Well, this show, at least the first few segments, if I can deconstruct feminism, I will have done my job well, because much of what I just keep coming across as far as societal ills have some connection to modern feminism. Now don't get me wrong, if we trace feminism even Back to the 1800s, there are portions of feminism more broadly, that I would say were right, were just, were good. But when we hit the 1900s, and specifically the 1950s and 60s, this feminist move took a very ugly turn. And it took a turn against marriage, against family, against the biblical role of male and female, against children, and began pushing very ungodly concepts and ideals. And this is where we are today, where we have much of Western civilization falling prey, falling victim to modern feminism to such an extent that it is arguably one of the primary leaders, one of the primary causes of the decline in Western civilization.
The WNBA is debating whether to allow men to compete in women's sports
Walker And we'll talk about that this segment, to start off, we'll start off a little more light hearted, if you will, kind of. And we'll talk about this WNBA fight and how the WNBA isn't really sure what the W means. The Women's National Basketball association can't seem to figure out what the W means. And when I say that, what I'm talking about is the fact that the WNBA and their management and their coaches are still debating and discussing and meeting about whether they're going to allow men to compete in the wnba. And former NBA stars have actually, created a mockery of the wnba and they're actually enrolling and applying to be in the WNBA draft. Coming up, once again, this entire, debate within the wnba, within the sporting leagues more broadly, Boils down to this rejection of God's created order of male and female. And this notion that you can be whatever you want to be. That has been the lie that has infected American society and led to this insane discussion about whether men ought to be able to play in women's sports and vice versa. It is just utterly insane. And so let's play this, clip first.
Walker This is going to be clip two. This is Royce White, who is, otherwise going by the name Roysha for the sake of getting a little bit of laugh out of this, but former NBA star Royce White, Royce White is actually. Has actually already applied to be in the WNBA draft. This guy's big burly man, can dunk on anyone. And, he says, look, I'm gonna play ball. You can call me Roysha. And my pronouns are pay me, let's listen. Well, I'm sometimes identifying as a black trans lesbian. You can call, me Rosha. That's my new name. You've, dead named me. But it's okay. We go way back, Doc. So, you know, the, people who I know have a good relationship with, I give them some grace on my, on my new name. and. And my, My pronouns are. Yeah, yeah, no, my pronouns are pay me.
Walker Okay, okay. And, I'm wondering, you know, I saw one of the. I, guess it was Sophie Cunningham's coach was talking about how kindness was going to prevail in the wnba. she of course told everyone to F off when she finished her comments. But. Okay. I'm wondering if you were being received kindly by the wnba, hierarchy.
Royce White Well, not so far. I mean, they've almost completely denied my trans existence. And I think that's tantamount to genocide. It's hateful, it's harmful to my fellow trans, bipoc. Trans, trans adjacent activists and everybody else up and down the line who have put in so much time, effort and sacrifice to uplift, and make safe trans people. So the WNBA is all but denied my existence. And again, that's tantamount to genocide.
Walker Tantamount to genocide. of course, folks, this is totally tongue in cheek. I mean, the sarcasm meter is spiking right now because Royce White is clearly a dude who is making fun of the WNBA here. This is, this is all somewhat of a joke. Although he is legitimately. He has legitimately already put in his application for the WNBA M League. Why? Because he's trying to force. He's going to force the issue. He and Enos Cantor Freedom are forcing the issue. And I just got to give him props. I mean, this is a beautiful thing. We've all said all along. Those of us who are for common sense and basic biology have said all along, if you have some six, eight, seven foot men that really want to force the issue and want to make everybody come back to reality, then apply for the WNBA and have six foot, eight, seven foot men dunking on five foot eight women and let's see how this goes. Like, let's see how long culture wants to be passive and weak and feminine and accept this insanity. It's a rejection of God's created order. It's a rejection of scientific biology and it's insanity. And the fact that our culture is having to have the debate in and of itself as a failure point. How do I connect this to feminism? Our culture and men in our culture have been so feminized. We've become so weak and driven by so many feelings that we can't just do the right thing here. We have to over complicate stuff. We have to talk too much about stuff, we have to debate stuff. We have to make sure everybody feels comfortable. Everything's feeling driven. And if you look at femininity, it is very much feeling led. Which, don't get me wrong, God created us male and female. He created us both in his image. And so feelings have a place, emotion has a place, but it ought not be. The dominating factor here, and that's the lesson of the day, is that our culture has gotten so overly sensitized that we can't just talk normal, we can't talk straight. We've got to walk on eggshells. We got to make sure we're not hurting people's feelings.
Walker We got to make sure everybody's quote included. And we've also watered down our terminology here. Instead of just man and woman, now we've got trans and lesbian and all these pronouns and all these different, you know, soup Alphabet. I mean, this is just insanity. If cultures of the past were to see what we're doing today, we would be the laughing stock of world history. I mean, we have legit problems to deal with as a society and culture of which I talk about on the program frequently. And here we are talking about whether men are going to play in the Women's National Basketball Association. Well, Enos Cantor Freedom, also former NBA player, very good player, by the way. He has recently enrolled in the WNBA draft and he actually went to a, Indiana Fever game where they were playing the Chicago WNBA team.
Walker And they, got he Got in a shouting match, but nonetheless he got kicked out and listened to how quote, unquote intolerant the WNBA was to this former NBA player showing up to the WNBA game to defend women. Clip one, Sophie Cunningham, shot at three.
Enos Freedom And I put my hands up to celebrate, right? literally, a couple position later, Natasha came back and starts screaming and yelling and said, she's not going to sleep with you. I just got up and then I was like, I'm just here to protect women. And that's all right. And then she started to yell, she started to use some very heavy language. She started to actually cuss. And I was very shocked that there was, that there were a lot of kids and there were a lot of teenagers was at that game. And I just cannot believe that she was just cussing and using those F bombs, in front of all these kids. Security guy, you know, came, and then I was like, listen, you need to leave. I was like, can you please tell me why do I need to leave? They said, you just need to leave. And they literally, I don't want to say they dragged me, but like, they pretty much like pushed me to leave the gym.
Former NBA player kicked out of WNBA game for wearing female definition shirt
Walker So, this player wearing a, women noun, a human female definition on his shirt, this former NBA player kicked out of this WNBA game because, not really sure why. Still haven't gotten clarity. Was it the shirt? Was it the fact that they didn't like his ideas and his speech, or the fact that he triggered the the lefty female basketball player for the Chicago team, well known liberal, outspoken left wing activist that she is. And so this is the new fight right now. And, and in the grand scheme of human history, some, quite a comical fight that we're having as humans trying to act like men and women aren't different. Hello. What have we been doing? You think humans in the past haven't figured this out, that men and women are different? I mean. Ah, you gotta be kidding me here. So folks, the only way to bring sanity to the conversation is to point out the lunacy. And that's what we're doing. We are pointing out the lunacy and the delusions. We'll be back in a few minutes.
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AFA Action needs volunteer panelists to evaluate candidates ahead of November elections
Walker Welcome back to The Core here on American Family Radio. Before we dive back into the deconstruction of feminism that we're aiming at today, want to share a brief way of how, you can get involved in these upcoming, elections, especially as the midterms are just right around the corner. ivoterguide is one of our three divisions over at AFA Action and they need volunteer panelists to evaluate candidates between now and November, really over the next 30 to 60 days if we're being honest. And these volunteer panelists will be provided all the information, all the tools, any different technological needs that they have in order to participate in these online evaluations of the candidates. And so we want to encourage you to go over to ivoterguide.com I did this earlier, double checked everything to make sure it's all there. You can go to ivoterguide.com click on the top right hand corner click take action and then the tab that says become a panelist. So you can go there to ivoterguide.com I'm there right now, click take action in the right hand corner and then the tab says become a panelist and you click apply now. And we will have you fill out this brief information, with your name, your state and your email and then we will be in touch to help onboard you to become a volunteer panelist. So if you've been listening to AFR for some time, you've even heard about and Used ivoterguide. And you wonder how on earth do they get all this done each election cycle? Well, it's because of you. It's because of volunteers out there, m that help us, review and evaluate the candidates. And so go to ivoterguide.com, click on the Take Action tab and become a panelist. And we will be in touch and we'll get you onboarded, hopefully, and have you, helping us compile all this information as we head into this final 30 to 60 days before the midterm election cycle, midterm, election rather, which is the first Tuesday in November. We've got to get this stuff done well before then.
Lindsay Clancy is accused of murdering her three children through strangulation
Walker Well, back into this topic of modern feminism. There's a lot of things going on right now in culture and entertainment and in the news. And this, this Lindsay Clancy trial, I don't know if you've been tracking this, but this is just horrendous, this story, it's hard to even talk about. So, and I'll try to keep it somewhat moderate, as we talk about this discussion for the sake of, you know, if you've got young kids in the car, etc. But, this, this story has to do with a mother. And I'm, once again, I'm keeping this very high level. there's a trial ongoing right now of a mother with a last name Clancy that, has been accused of and charged with the tragic murder of her own three children. Out of all the stories I've read, out of all the things I've covered, this is the worst of the worst of the worst. And so, long story short, while her husband was away, she's been accused of tragically killing her three children. So now she's on trial. And this trial by jury has brought about this topic within the media, within the news circles and within the social media world, about the core facts behind the trial. All right, what's been revealed is a couple things through this trial. The first one is that, this mother was going through and dealing with what I'm going to call demons. I mean, this mother was doped up on all kinds of prescription meds. I've read the list. It's like nearly three dozen, prescription meds that she was given over the course of like a two or three year window. So she was doped up on all these anxiety medications, antidepressants, et cetera. but the other disturbing fact here, and then the last one I'll tell you is the most disturbing, another disturbing fact. Is that no one seemed to intervene here. No one seemed to intervene or at least pick up on the fact that this mother was spiraling out of control, dealing with some serious evil, some serious demons. And then the last thing, I want to mention, that's the most disturbing fact that has been uncovered through this trial, is that there is actually this online following of women that are cheering on this mother in sympathy, like she's some hero. That is the most disturbing part of this. And I've even watched Fox News analysts, so to speak, and different show hosts across these different news outlets that are talking about this as if the mother is the victim. The mother allegedly killed through strangulation, which is the most horrendous of horrendous crimes, her three baby children. And we want to spend time on the airwaves acting like the mother is the victim here. No, thank you. The kids are the victim and the dad's the victim because his children are dead. So spare me this feminist default position of woe. Is the mother.
Walker No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. I, saw this analogy online. If this were a dad that killed his own children with his bare hands, will we be giving him our sympathy card? Absolutely not. This is insane. We become so desensitized, so dumbed down as a culture morally, that we're giving sympathy cards out to mothers who've been accused of murder of their own children. This is wicked stuff. You read Romans 1, you read some of these other passages of scripture and you go, wow, how did they do that? Well, if you read America 2026, you'd be saying the same thing. How did they do that? Did nobody say anything? What were they thinking? And so there's actually women outside of this trial cheering on the alleged murderer mother and cheering on her attorney, her defense attorney, where in their pink, which this pink has become like this, you know, symbol of modern failed feminism. The pro abortion crowd wears it now. The baby killing crowd wears it. And so let's listen to this report. This is a Fox report saying that there's, quote, dozens of women out here supporting this alleged murderer.
Walker When in reality, folks, I've seen the video. It's at least 100 women out there supporting this alleged, murderer that's on trial. Clip 4 let's listen.
Fox Reporter Today, the courtroom is packed with dozens of Clancy supporters while others outside hold signs calling for justice for her three young children taken too soon. I personally would like to see her go to jail. and I'm not saying Lindsey Clancy wasn't suffering or didn't have mental Health issues. that's not what I'm saying at all. But the real victims deserve justice. I had wicked postpartum anxiety myself, so it's always, like, a hot topic for me anyways, and something I'm passionate about. Sandra. In Massachusetts, the burden is on the prosecution to prove that Clancy knew what she was doing and that she could have acted differently. She faces life in prison without the possibility of parole if convicted of first degree murder. If she's found not criminally responsible for, for the killings, she would be committed to a state mental health facility where she would receive periodic reviews and eventually, theoretically, could be released.
Walker So you got dozens of women, by the way, all women, supporting this alleged, murderer that's on trial for murdering her own children. you've got, he said dozens in the courtroom. You got 100 plus outside. I've seen the video. They're wearing pink and they're having a party and cheering on this alleged murderer of her very own three children. I mean, where have we come to? If this is feminism, I don't want anything to do with it. Get me a thousand miles away. If this is what feminism is. And as a fact of the matter is, this is what feminism is. This is modern feminism, folks. Per abortion, anti family, and pro murder. I've seen women online now speaking out against feminism writ large now. I mean, they're raising questions about whether this whole thing was a sham to begin with. Was there any piece of this feminist movement that was good? I don't know. Not over the last 60 years, no. Thank you. I don't want anything to do with it. I mean, we've taken this thing, and this is what, folks, this is what evil does. We've taken this from women ought to be able to vote. Okay, whatever, whatever. I think the founders had some wisdom in their property ownership in the household voting. I think there was some biblical wisdom there. But if y' all want to get all upset about women not being able to vote, fine. But now we went from women being able to vote to women being able to kill their babies to women being anti marriage to women not wanting children, to now women standing outside of a trial cheering on a baby murderer. So where are we going next? What's the next stop? We're way past the time where this whole culture should have said no thank you to feminism. We're about 50 years removed from that, and the damage is broad, folks.
Erica Komisar speaks about the need for good parenting
And I just came across this, lady who's got a lot of different titles, but she's an author and speaks about parenting and the needs of children and marriages and families. And I don't know her background. I don't know if she's a born again believer or not. I absolutely have no idea. But she has a lot of wisdom here in how she's speaking about parenting, how she's speaking about children, how she's speaking about the need of men and women and moms and dads to be good parents and to develop their children emotionally and otherwise. And so this is getting into what this is all a big picture I'm trying to paint of how this feminist war on American families and masculinity has led to this path where we are today in 2026. So this is going to be clip five.
Walker This is the first clip of two of this lady named Erica Komisar talking about the need and the requirement of parents to teach, their children how to regulate their emotions, how to regulate their expectations of adulthood, and different learned behaviors that all come from parents and one's upbringing. This is going to be clip five. Let's listen.
Erica Komisar I think so binary today that what we don't tell parents is that you're going to have boring moments, you're going to have challenging moments, you're going to have imperfect parenting moments. That doesn't make you a bad parent. you know, the, the idea is that, parenting is about good enough. It was, you know, like Bruno Betelheim's book says, good enough parenting. We're not looking for perfect parents. We're looking for good enough parents who try really hard. And so, yeah, so there has to be some forgiveness for the imperfections and the. It's hard. So I'll say that I think young people today don't have frustration tolerance, have emotional regulation issues themselves, don't have a lot of patience. Remember part of, there was a book, everything I ever learned I learned in kindergarten, which talked about how in the early years, you learn the most important things in life. But in fact, in the first three years, you learn the most important things in life. You learn to regulate your emotions. You learn to wait, you know, the marshmallow test, you learn to wait. You learn to deal with frustration, you learn to share, you learn to tolerate, the word no, and you learn to adapt to structure. So these are like the things that are the most important things in life. And I think there's a lot of kids who won't have that early emotional regulation. So when they have a baby who's not doing what they want it to do or is crying or is keeping them up at night. They can't deal with the discomfort, they can't deal with the. They're impatient, they're intolerant, they can't deal with the, you know, all of those things again are about emotional maturity and emotional regulation.
Walker So what she's highlighting there is this current, and probably, well, let's just say this current generation's parents lack of properly developing their children in a way that prepares them for adulthood and specifically prepares them to be parents themselves. And the emotional regulation is a big one there. And once again, all of this stuff is biblical. Developing your emotions, not being rash, being level headed, having self control. These are biblical truths that the Lord teaches us in his scripture. Read Proverbs also. Proper expectations. What are you expecting from marriage? What are you expecting from childbearing? From parenting. And in many ways and many times we have this honestly unrealistic expectation for marriage and parenting. It's a blessing from the Lord, but that doesn't mean it's always easy. But in this social media frenzy world, we think every day is rainbow and sunshine. We think every day is going to Disney World when in reality it's absolutely not. Read the trials and tribulations that our brothers and sisters went through in the scriptures. Read the story of Job, a righteous man, the scripture says.
Walker And so we've got to raise children that are going to eventually, Lord willing, become spouses and become moms and dads to know how to regulate their emotions, know how to exercise self control, know how to have proper expectations of what life can bring, the blessings that it can bring, the trials and difficulties that it can bring. And we have to model for them what it means to be godly parents, what it means to be godly individual. And that's the lesson that all parents and grandparents can learn from as we look back on the mistakes of the past. We'll be back in a few.
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Walker Wildmon: Let's talk about what we're doing to young boys
Walker Welcome back to this last segment of today's program here on American Family Radio. It's a brief reminder. We would greatly appreciate it. If you want to listen live or watch the program, you can go over to afr.net and you can click Listen live or Watch Live, whichever one you prefer. And then we do upload the show in the form of a podcast each and every afternoon. You can find this show just type in at the The Core with Walker Wildmon and Rick Green. Click the subscribe or the Follow button and our show latest episode will be queued up in your podcast library each and every day. Well, I want to play one more clip and then we do have a guest this segment that we'll get to here shortly. but this last clip of this, author and speaker and really what appears to be an expert on parenting and raising of children, Erica Komisar. this is the last installment of these two clips I want to play. And in this one she addresses this, more feminism Invasion of Parenting, Young Boys. And this all is part of this overarching topic. We've been covering the last two segments of Modern Feminism's basically war on Biblical Masculinity and the American Family and childbearing that we're seeing the tragic results of today. but this is a clip where she is specifically talking about how for decades we've been trying to make little boys basically act like little girls. And so this is clip six. Let's listen.
Erica Komisar The other thing that we're doing is to young boys. Let's talk about what we're doing to young boys. This starts very young. We basically educate young boys in a way that really favors girls, you know, from a very young age. We talk about being able to sit quietly and regulate your emotions and not be aggressive and not be impulsive. And these little boys are being diagnosed with adhd, many of them just from being little boys. Little boys need to run around. They have a lot of physical energy. They have tons of testosterone. When you're like between three and six, you have a surge of testosterone, and all you want to do is run and jump and play and be outside. And what we're doing, we're putting them in school, making them sit in circle time. So we marginalize them. We label them, we say they have a problem. We say that they have adhd, they have behavioral problems. And in many of them, the stress that I talked about is the stress of making little boys be more like little girls. And that's where it starts. And so then they go into childhood. And again, the educational system favors the way girls Learn. Not the way boys learn. How do boys learn? Boys have attention spans for very short periods of time, and then they need lots of physical activity. So, ideally, if you go to look at the boys schools, what do they do? They run the boys, like running the dogs in the park. They sit for 45 minutes or half an hour, but then the boys get time off to run around, and then they'll sit another half an hour, and then they'll run around. I mean, they have like, four Reese's periods a day, and so that's really better for boys. And little girls have more of a capacity to sit quietly in circle time and sort of, you know, they don't have. Have as much testosterone. They don't have that need to run and jump and play to the same degree that little boys do. They do need to play. We're not letting our kids play boys and girls because we're trying to force left brain development on them too early. But we are forcing little boys into this box, and they're not doing well in that box. And then they're labeled. They're labeled as having behavioral problems, adhd. And that label then follows them through childhood, sometimes into middle school, into high school.
Walker Well, there you have it. I mean, she summarizes it even much better than I could on this, kind of bent that we've had in our society and our education system that, treats little boys being boys as some abnormal thing that's got to be treated with the ADHD over medication of young men. and so all of this has to be addressed to restore proper order in society and a proper understanding of the male, female relationship and order. And, so that's what she's referring to there. Very, very interesting topic. And we'll keep tracking this.
Pastor Jay Parks is with us from Blue Mountain Christian University
Walker Jumping to our next guest. Pastor Jay Parks is with us. He's president of the Pastor Training Schools, which is an outreach and arm of Blue Mountain Christian University. And we've had frequent guests on the program for. From Blue Mountain Christian University. Not too far up the road here. Brother. Jay, welcome to the program.
Jay Parks Thank you so much. Appreciate you having me.
There is a shortage of pastors in the pulpits of America
Walker Well, we wanted to have you on because, there is a shortage of pastors in the pulpits of America.
Jay Parks I know.
Walker my church, thankfully, we've filled the pastor role, but we went nearly two years without a pastor, and from what I hear, two years is pretty normal when it comes to looking for a lead pastor. And so, before we jump into that topic, tell us a little bit about yourself.
Jay Parks Yeah, I'm Jay Parks. I was born and raised in Oxford and, surrendered to ministry when I was 28, and pastored down in Bruce, Mississippi for a little while. And then I moved to Hawaii with North American Mission Board and planted a church in Kona, Hawaii. So I was there for about seven years. And, through a series of events, God brought us back here. And, now I'm starting to see why. So it's pretty amazing.
Walker Yeah. Well, when you and I were. You were coming into the studio and we were chatting it up, you said, I was talking about you training pastors. And you say, yeah, just to be clear, we train men. And I said, I'm glad to hear that, brother. because this, this, move, this unbiblical move, in my opinion, to insert women into the pastorate as lead pastors, is just unbiblical and it has to be addressed. And so you guys are obviously doing it right, training men to be pastors, to be. Be lead pastors and shepherds over their churches. So tell us how this was conceived. This is. Once again, we're talking to pastor Jay Parks, who's over pastor training schools of Blue Mountain Christian University. Tell us whose idea this was and how long you guys been doing this.
Jay Parks Yeah, I got involved with an organization in Eastern Africa called Church Missions Network. And, I, started walking with them on training pastors there. In Eastern Africa. We work in nine countries there and, setting up schools in rural areas with bring men in, to train for a week at a time. And they do that over two years. and that's really where all this spun out of. We were planting churches with that model there. But here the real need is bivocational pastors for revitalization of these small churches. Man, my heart beats for the small rural church like the one I grew up in that. Like you said, man, they go in this cycle, they look two years for pastor, God finally brings one. Then God moves them, then they start over again. It's this cycle that's just, man, unforgiving for a church. It's really difficult. So we got a dream of raising guys up that maybe were born there and they could possibly die there. But, man, what a great place to rise up and be the pastor of those churches, to meet, reach those communities around them. So that's kind of the vision.
Walker Yeah. And I do want to. I want to park on the, bi. Vocational need there. But before we do, give our audience just a brief overview of what the program looks like. If a man says, hey, I feel called to the pastorate. I want to be a biblical leader in our community and in my church. What does the program look like for them?
Jay Parks Yeah, so program looks like this. We basically will set it up near where somebody lives, if there's interest from say an association or a place that we want to target. I personally got a vision that I don't want a man in the state of Mississippi to wake up that feels called to the ministry, that can't get to one of our cohort locations within a 45 minute drive from being off work. And so that's a big vision. You know, it's a big vision. But that means we have to set up cohorts or groups, if you will, all over the state. And they would come to a church and say your pastor Jon would if he was going to teach one, then you would host it at your church and Jon would teach it. On Monday nights from 6 to 8:30 those men would come in, they'd go through classes like spiritual formation, Old Testament, NewSong Testament, how to study the Bible, the art of preaching, all of those, subjects over a two year period. we build a community of guys together to do that. And it's been amazing what God is doing through this. we are seeing guys that are serving in pulpit supply that are now pastors that weren't, they didn't even know they were called when they first got involved with us and just were feeling a sense that God was calling them to do more. And we helped them to walk through that call. It's just been incredible.
Walker Yeah.
Pastor Jay Parks is president of Pastor Training Schools
Once again we're talking to Pastor Jay Parks. He's president of Pastor Training Schools, which is an outreach or division of Blue Mountain Christian University. Let me give their URL real quick before we continue this discussion. PastortrainingSchools.org, pretty self explanatory. PastortclingSchools.org, that's schools with an S on the end of it. Pastor training schools dot org.
Jay Parks Yeah, I'm a wordsmith man. I could have come up with something better than that.
Walker I'm proud of you.
Jay Parks That's what we do.
Walker Why over complicate, right?
Jay Parks Yes, sir.
Let's talk about the need for bivocational pastors
Walker Hey, let's talk about the need for bivocational pastors because as you said, the, there are many churches, thank the Lord. There are a lot of churches that can afford a full time pastor and even a full time staff, because of just the number of tithes, and the number of congregates, et cetera. But there's a lot of rural churches across the country that just don't have the budget, for. And if they've got a budget for a lead pastor, they definitely don't have a budget for an associate or a full staff. So talk about that, because that's throughout American history, if we're talking in this context, bivocational has been a very common thing, a very common occurrence for men, that want to be a leader in the church, but also have a quote, day job, so to speak. So tell us a little bit about that need there.
Jay Parks Yeah. When this whole thing started, when we first started having this conversation about it with Dr. Meeks at Blue Mountain, there was hovering nearly 500 churches, Southern Baptist alone in the state of Mississippi without a pastor. 500.
Walker Wow.
Jay Parks of those, 500, 80% of them are 100 congregants or less. And about 90% of that 80% was actually less than 50. So it just tells you, the size of these churches. And you know, nowadays, there's a huge mountain between a guy feeling called and being equipped to be able to go and lead a church. And that mountain to me is education, man. Because to get theological training, you have to do master's work, right? That means first you got to finish bachelor's work. And for some guy that's like me when I was 28 and felt called a ministry, I'm like, man, I am not going back to school. I'm not going back to school. Scared to death. Yeah, we try to take all of that out and still just give these guys specific tools they need to walk into churches and pastor. And so for me, our heartbeat really is for the bivocational church. A guy can be a mechanic at Grease Monkey and he can go there on Sunday and preach with enthusiasm, a, Bible centered message and reach people and help to revitalize that church. Like, that's our dream. Those are my people.
Walker Yeah. we're at the place, Jay, where beggars can't be choosers. And we need to be careful not to be too picky here. Now, if you can find a pastor that's got a master's degree in divinity or a master's degree in, you know, from a major seminary, more power to you. That's great. Or even a doctorate. But when you're talking about a congregation of 50, 75, 100 people, we just need somebody to preach the word of God that can preach the truth of God's word and can shepherd people and disciple people. And so, what Are you seeing as far as enrollment with your program? I mean, how many men can you train, if you will, over let's say a six or twelve month period? Yeah.
Jay Parks Can I back up the statement you said, though? It's like beggars can't be choosers. I know what you meant by that. But what I want to say is, man, I think we're overlooking some amazing guys, man, that just, they don't meet, they don't meet the levels that are required to go to seminary. These guys are the best of the best, man. And I think these guys have an enthusiasm and a love, man. We need to give them opportunity to stand up and share Jesus. And I really believe they can breathe life into it. So I don't see that, I don't see that as, man, we can't be choosers. I'm, I'm thinking maybe we'd just been overlooking some really quality guys.
Walker Yeah. And my point is.
Jay Parks And I knew what you meant.
Walker Yeah.
Walker My point is that sometimes as, as believers, we get, we start being too nitpicky.
Jay Parks That's right.
Walker And over critiquing people and things. And we're not just willing to work with what's been given to us.
Jay Parks That's right.
Walker And build on something and do something, productive instead of just complaining about.
Jay Parks But the Lord's in control, man. This is his church.
Walker Yeah, absolutely.
Jay Parks And he places people strategically right where they need to be and that we just want to help equip those guys. So to answer your, though, we went from starting with one cohort and six guys to now we have 29 cohorts, 290 men in training across the state of Mississippi, a few in Arkansas, Alabama and Tennessee. I believe the Lord has told us we're going to be training a thousand men in the next year or two. I'm not exaggerating. Like, it's amazing. There's such a need. These guys are excited. They just need an avenue to plug into, to take those mountains that stand between their calling in the pulpit away from them and allow them to go and just preach the word.
Jay Parks: This could lead to revival in the rural church
Walker Let me ask you one more question about how you're choosing the cohorts. That seems to be the central element in ensuring, you know, biblical inerrancy, biblical fidelity to the scripture and solid teaching. So how are you picking your cohorts? We've got about 60 seconds.
Jay Parks Yeah. So we use local pastors that have a seminary education to teach these classes. So that's how we're steering this. And, and Basically, we set a co op hoard up in an area that, where there's a lot of bi vocational opportunities. And that's really the main thing that dictates it.
Walker Wow. This could. Brother J. Once again, we're talking to Jay Parks. This could, be what's needed to refill America's pulpits.
Jay Parks I believe it could lead to revival in the rural church.
Walker Yeah, and what it sounds like you've done here is not this overly cumbersome, overly expensive 5 to 10 year process. I mean, you guys are seem to be hitting the ground running. And how long, how long does this training last for an individual?
Jay Parks It takes two years total.
Walker Excellent. Very good. Well, there you have it, folks. let me give this website one more time. We've been talking to Jay Parks. He's president of Pastor Training Schools, which is an affiliate with Blue Mountain Christian University. One of their outreach is one of their divisions. pastortrainingschools.org Pastortrainingschools.org will link to it in the show notes. Brother Jay, thanks so much for joining us.
Jay Parks Thank you, man. It's been an honor.
Walker All right, folks, if you're a, man who wants to lead a church in the Southeast, basically, Arkansas, Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, visit PastortrainingSchools.org and Lord willing, they'll reach more states.
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Show Notes:
Introduction to the Episode
Acts 18: Work and Ministry
The Evolution of Feminism
Men in Women's Sports Debate
Lindsay Clancy Case Discussion
Education and Boys
Conclusion and Call to Action
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