American Family Radio helps preborn save 38,000 babies this year

>> Walker Wildmon: I want you to picture this. Her name is Kayla. She is 17, alone, terrified and pregnant, sitting in a clinic, tears blurring, thinking abortion is her only option until she was offered a free ultrasound, paid for by a hero just like you. The moment Kayla heard her baby's heartbeat, the decision was made. And today, her little baby boy, Gabriel, is thriving because preborn walked with Kayla every step of the way. Now multiply that by 38,000. That's how many babies preborn has helped save just this year. And along with saving the babies, mothers are being counseled with practical and spiritual advice to make motherhood possible. But here's the most important thing you will hear today. The goal is to save 70,000 by the end of the year. And they can't do it without us. Every $28 provides that ultrasound that changes everything. Will you be the reason the next Kayla chooses life? The reason Gabriel fulfills his destiny? To donate, dial #250 and say the keyword baby. That's #250, baby. Or donate [email protected] afr that's preborn.com/afr afr we inform religious freedom is about people of faith being able to live out their faith, live out their convictions no matter where they are.

>> Jeff Chamblee: We quit.

>> Rick Green: Sacred honor is the courage to speak.

>> Don Wildmon: Truth, to live out your free speech. We also rejoice in our sufferings because we know that suffering produces perseverance, perseverance. Character, and character hope.

>> Jeff Chamblee: This is at the core on American Family Radio.

>> Walker Wildmon: Welcome, to the Core here on American Family Radio. I'm Walker Wildmon. The show is hosted each week on by myself and Rick Green. And to be more proper, Rick Green and I, we host a show each week and we're glad to be with you each day of the week. We've got a re air best of, if you will, over the weekend as well. So you'll be able to hear the program on the weekend. If you want to subscribe to the show, well, you can. And we upload the program in the form of a podcast each and every day. Wherever you listen to podcasts, just type in the name of the program. You'll find the show page, click the subscribe button or the follow button and you can have the program queued up in your library each and every day for your consumption. And it's the podcast is convenient, it's accessible, and you can listen to the program at your timing when you choose. And if you want to break it up into segments, that's fine too.

We have a Bibles for Babies campaign going on this week

before we jump into our Scripture of the Week, let me remind you, and we'll talk more about this in the next segment. But we do have our Bibles for Babies campaign going on this week. And in essence, what we're doing here is we're partnering with a local pregnancy resource center, pregnancy clinic in North Mississippi to provide Bibles for mothers that come in expecting. And so we're giving away free Bibles in partnership with a, a North Mississippi pregnancy resource Center. We're giving her a free Bibles for the mom and of course with the hopes of it being passed down to the baby. So that's our Bibles for Babies campaign. And we'll have Anne Cockrell here on shortly to tell us more about that. All the information you need is [email protected] on the homepage, afr.net right there on the home page, you'll see the campaign. You click learn more and you can donate $10 provides a Bible for a mother and a child. That's our Bibles for Babies campaign.

Do not weary yourself to gain wealth because just as quickly as we earn it

Proverbs chapter 23 is where we are this week. And looking at verse, 4 and 5. Do not weary yourself to gain wealth. Cease from your consideration of it. When you set your eyes on it, it is gone. For wealth certainly makes itself wings like an eagle that flies towards the heavens. So what we can take away from this is that we don't need to be consumed with, we don't need to grow weary in pursuing financial gain and pursuing wealth because just as quickly as we earn, vanishes away. And, we need to have a good work ethic. We need to be good stewards, we need to be good planners. there's nothing wrong with gaining wealth, with gaining money, with gaining assets. But we don't need to weary ourselves with it. We don't need to be consumed with it. It needs to take a proper place, as priority wise in our life according to scripture. That's Proverbs, chapter 23, verses 4 and 5.

The Minnesota school shooting was committed by a male who was allegedly transgender

All right, what I want to talk about this segment is what I alluded to on Wednesday of this week when the breaking news was out over the school shooting in Minnesota. Very tragic shooting. Two children lost their lives at this Catholic school. over a dozen more injured. And it's, the shooting was committed by a male, a young man who was allegedly transgender or struggling with gender dysphoria. And this unlike other school shootings, there's a lot of information out there on this shooter because the Trump administration and the FBI, they're operating under, under a Maximum transparency administration. And they're not trying to cover things up and hide things for political purposes. So the manifesto, the images of the, the YouTube videos in the manifesto, the notebook images of the firearms, all of this is out there now we've got it all. so there's no conspiracy theories percolating about what happened here. What was the motivation? Look, here's what's abundantly clear based on the evidence today. This young man was severely disturbed, had been catered into and bought into himself. The lie of transgenderism and that you can change your gender and you can identify as whatever you want to identify as. there's, you know, there's evidence that there was, you know, hormones involved. not sure if there was a surgery that went along with it, but this, this, this, this young man was just bought into this left wing insanity of gender dysphoria, transgenderism, and the entire deviancy movement that goes along with it. And so these, these type shootings are actually becoming pretty common. The transgender ideology has become so toxic, so evil, so pervasive that there's a, there's an entire kind of community, if you will, for lack of a better word, that's basically full of radicalized transgenders, radicalized people, boys and girls, men and women, that have bought into this lie of transgenderism and they're, they've become radicalized to such an extent that they're carrying out mass shootings. they're getting in these cult like groups, creating these private chat boards, and they're all, they talk about killing people and how it's their way or the highway. And it's a very cult like mentality that has been brought to you by the LGBTQ agenda.

Tim Walz: Jesse Waters spoke out about transgender violence following Minneapolis school shooting

And I want to play this clip while we have time. Jesse Waters does about a five minute monologue and I tried to figure out how I can cut this up, how I can piecemeal it to not eat up four or five minutes of the program. But look, the whole thing is a slam dunk. This is Jesse Waters on his monologue this week following the school shooting in Minneapolis talking about the toxicity that is transgenderism. Clip 3.

>> Jesse Watters: Suicidal transgender who hates Trump's Christians and Jews, shoots, up kids at a Catholic school. And the media wants to take away your handgun. So how are we supposed to protect ourselves from trans shooters? The media is bad at pattern recognition. We aren't. Just two years ago, another trans, 20 something, walked into a Christian school in Nashville with a rifle and shot three kids and three adults. They buried the Manifesto and locked down the case. We've seen trans shootings in Colorado and in Maryland. They even shot up an ICE facility in Texas. And it seems like half of antifa's trans, a couple of they thems just got popped for firebombing Teslas. The mayor of Minneapolis says, you can't. Say that anybody who is using this as using this as an opportunity to villainize our trans community or any other community out there has lost their sense of common humanity. We should not be operating out of a place of hate for anyone. We should be operating from a place of love for our kids. I don't hate anyone who thinks they're trans. I feel sorry for them. But statistically, the trans population has been prone to violence. That's not villainizing, that's reality. And if you can't recognize reality, you're in danger. We love the American people, especially American children. And if they're troubled and believe they're somehow a girl trapped in a boy's body, we want to get them help. We don't want to give them hormones and operate on them. Society shouldn't be trying to produce more trans kids. We shouldn't be encouraging an emotional disorder or whatever this is. And doctors should stop profiting from it. Great Britain ended child sex change surgeries. They said it's barbaric. And they're right. And politicians should stop elevating the trans issue like it's the civil rights struggle of the 21st century. You see it all over Minneapolis. Minneapolis will continue to be a safe haven for our trans community, for being. A safe haven for transgender individuals. We have sued them for gender affirming care. Yes, we, we are not going to scapegoat our transgender community when our children. tell us who they are. It is our job as grown ups to listen and to believe them. So when your 9 year old tells you he's a horse, do you let him sleep out in the barn and eat hay? What are we doing here? Just a few years ago, the psychiatric community classified transgenderism as a mental illness. Then doctors went woke and removed it as a condition. And now millions of young Americans are identifying themselves as trans and getting high fives. When someone has an illness, we should treat it instead of affirm it. We don't celebrate schizophrenia. we don't encourage depression. Teenagers are confused. Sometimes these things are just a face. And if they're not all right, then a grown man can wear a dress. If he wants to do that in America, he has that right. We're a pretty darn Tolerant society. But the left's weaponizing trans kids and turning them m into culture warriors. And they've been turned loose against the church, schools, and Trump. You see it, I see it. The trans Klan has a militant wing and it's out for blood. They're taking lives, defiling churches, and freaking everybody out. And some politicians are doing more to protect shooters like Westman than soft targets like schools. In 2023, private schools in Minnesota begged Governor Walz to fund more school safety. They told him it was an urgent and critical need. Minnesota had an $18 billion budget surplus, but the governor didn't do it. Instead, he turned Minnesota into a trans sanctuary. And his attorney general, Keith Ellison, sued Trump so they can keep castrating little boys. Tim Walls failed our leaders keep failing us. They failed us during COVID on trade, on immigration. They say they care about kids, but they locked them m down and oversaw an obesity and chronic disease epidemic. And now there's a growing trans epidemic, and they won't even admit it. Just like crime, they created a crisis and then lie about it and blame you for not being compassionate. But their fake compassion is getting people killed.

>> Walker Wildmon: A lot of truth there. So spot on. So good, Bobby. This is a fight of good versus evil. Yeah, there's no question about that. And notice I didn't say a fight of perfect versus evil, because we're all fallen. Amen. and there's no the conservative movement or the Republican Party. That's not what I'm talking about here. and there are people that view this issue correct and biblically that disagree on other parts of scriptural teachings. So this is not a perfect versus evil battle. although God himself is perfect. But I'm talking about on this earthly side of things, this is a good versus evil, a generally good versus evil battle. And when you look and, this is for adults only. But when you. As far as what I'm about to recommend, but anybody who has the stomach to look at the manifesto, to watch the video of this young man, you cannot walk away from this denying the fact that evil exists in this world. I don't care what your faith background is. I don't care whether you're agnostic, whatever. The hard reality, folks, is that God is real, Satan is real. Evil exists in the heart of man. And the only person and the only thing that can tame the evil in man's heart is God and the Holy Spirit. And, Bobby, when you look at this, I'm sure you've seen glimpses of this, this shooter in his notebook basically had. One of the pages was a interaction with what was depicted to be the devil, where he's basically petitioning the devil to, to free him of this spell that he's in. Right? And the devil says, like the devil's gonna do that? Yeah. And the devil says, no, kill yourself. No.

>> Bobby Roza: He's just direly disturbed. It's really, really, really sad. It is, really is. Folks, these are our kids. This isn't, ah, this isn't a 40 year old disturbed man. These are kids. These are young people that are, that are falling victim to this wickedness because our culture and our entertainment and our leaders and then some of our parents have thought that this sexual confusion is somehow acceptable. It's not, folks. One deviancy leads to another, to another, to another. And now people are experiencing mass evil.

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Walker Wildmon: Welcome back to American Family Radio on Friday

>> Walker Wildmon: Welcome, back to the Core here on American Family Radio. I'm Walker Wildmon. Glad to have you with us on this Friday edition. Well, as promised, I talked a little bit about Bibles for Babies campaign that we have going on this week in the first segment and we have in studio with us Anne Cockrell, one of the hosts of Hannah's Heart and, also heading up this project that we're doing to provide moms and babies with a free Bible when they visit one of our local pregnancy clinics. and welcome back to the program.

>> Anne Cockrell: Thanks for having me.

>> Walker Wildmon: It's been a little while. I think I've had you and Kender on a couple times, talk about various things. before we talk about the project, tell me about the radio program that's aired on the weekends. Right?

>> Anne Cockrell: Yes, we are on the weekends and I think actually on Tuesdays now, Tuesday afternoons every now and then we pop us in there.

>> Walker Wildmon: Cool.

>> Anne Cockrell: but Hannah's Heart started, that because of, me and Will, my husband, walking through infertility and miscarriage and you know, walked through that with us. We were friends all during that time. and so, you offered me a job here at afa and so I'm working here in donor support and I got to, you know, talk to our listeners and supporters doing that. But while I was here and listen to a lot of the programs, we talk about some stuff, some tough stuff here, stuff.

>> Walker Wildmon: Well, we've been talking about this, this show.

>> Anne Cockrell: Right, right. And so, as I got to know AFA more and the topics that you guys weren't afraid to, it was just like, you know, I feel like, you know, infertility is actually a really big subject now, and a lot of.

>> Walker Wildmon: People, statistically, it's pretty broad problem, widespread problem.

>> Anne Cockrell: Right. It's one in eight couples who struggle with infertility, and then one, it's actually grown now, but one in three, pregnancies that end in miscarriage.

>> Walker Wildmon: Wow.

>> Anne Cockrell: And so. And that's grown since this show started. but anyway, I went to leadership about the idea of, a show covering infertility and miscarriage, and y' all were like, well, you know, come back with some notes. And, you know, you take this on. And I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no.

>> Walker Wildmon: We totally put the ball back in your court.

>> Anne Cockrell: I was like, no, I don't know anything about radio.

>> Walker Wildmon: That's what we did. People come with a good idea, they gotta own it.

>> Anne Cockrell: Y' all made me do that. And so here I am behind a microphone. And that was never the plan. but anyway, so that's where Hannah's heart came from. Kendra, ah, And I met through working at afa, and infertility is part of. Part of her story as well. And so, we're both very passionate about it. We both now have children of our own through adoption and fertility treatments and just the good oldfashioned way. But, yes. anyway, it is still very, heavy on our hearts, and we want to be there, with couples as they walk through infertility and IVF and miscarriage and child loss. And so, we hope we can do that through Hannah's heart.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah. I think this show has been a blessing for many reasons. One of the reasons, just for me personally, is that there is. There is biblical teachings and moral morals to the whole process of infertility, because I didn't really realize how kind of wild west it was as far as the technology. but, I mean, last year, I think it was maybe two years ago, but when the Alabama Supreme Court, made the ruling on in vitro fertilization, a lot of people were just getting caught up to speed on what even is ivf.

>> Anne Cockrell: Right.

>> Walker Wildmon: And so you guys were able to provide a lot of insight on that. but there. There is some pretty big moral implications to the infertility industry. Right? I mean, there's some good ways to go about it and then some bad ways to go about it. Right.

>> Anne Cockrell: And I did not know a lot. So at the end of our. I guess you would say our story, ah, through going through treatments, we were told that. We were told you, you will not have children unless you Proceed with IVF and will. And I didn't know really why at the time, but both of us were just like, that's just not something that we can afford to do right now because we're talking about thousands and thousands. Sure, thousands of dollars. And our conviction at that time was just like it. We know that there's thousands of kids out there already that need homes.

>> Walker Wildmon: Right.

>> Anne Cockrell: And so if we were going to put those thousand dollar somewhere, we wanted that to be for a child that already was here.

>> Walker Wildmon: And you were probably, I'm not gonna say like really early on in marriage, but you weren't like 10 or 15 years in. Right. I mean this was relatively in the earlier process of marriage and family. And so I think that probably made it something where you guys weren't just urgent to move on to the next option.

>> Anne Cockrell: Right. I think we had been married what, like five years? A little over five years at the time. Yeah. And but see, at the time, Walker, it felt like a long time because it was like, some of twins were onto the second baby, you know. but at the time we had, we had three kiddos in our home through foster care. And the infant that we had in our home at that time is Mark now, who we had, we adopted when he was a little over two. And so we knew at that time and we were told that, you know, hard news, they were in our home. And so that is just what we agreed to do was to give all of our time and energy to those kids that we had in our home, even though they were not legally ours in any way other than the way that we loved them.

>> Walker Wildmon: Sure.

>> Anne Cockrell: And so, anyway, that was in February when I was told that. And then in May I was pregnant with Jane. And so we still don't understand that. I remember being so confused, like why God? I just struggled with HM infertility for four years, you know, now no medication or anything like that. I'd finally surrendered that all to you and just said, you know, God, it's okay. And then now I'm pregnant. And I know that is not everyone's story. I think a lot of people try to be encouraging to women. and I'm sure men too. as you're walking through infertility, a lot of people will say just adopt. You know, as soon as you adopt, you'll end up having a baby. And I can promise you, as someone who heard that so many times, that really gets old hearing that because you don't know that you're not the Lord. You don't know.

>> Walker Wildmon: Well, an adoption obviously is biblical because we're all grafted into the family to the household of faith. But, there is something special and unique about having your own child. That's a fact.

Hannah says adoption isn't a simple fix for infertility

>> Anne Cockrell: Yeah.

>> Walker Wildmon: And I don't think we need to your point? We don't need to try to dismiss that and, and act like adoption is the same as having your own child.

>> Anne Cockrell: Correct.

>> Walker Wildmon: It's different. Right.

>> Anne Cockrell: Yeah.

>> Walker Wildmon: Well, and then there's some similarities, but it's unique. It's. Each one is unique.

>> Anne Cockrell: Yeah. Well, and then as a woman, you know, desiring to have that baby, there's lots of biological aspects that you miss out on, you know, and we all know adoption actually isn't part of God's plan. Right. He. That that's because of a broken world.

>> Walker Wildmon: It wasn't part of his original plan.

>> Anne Cockrell: It wasn't part of his original plan. Right. Because we were all made for Eden. Right.

>> Walker Wildmon: Perfection. And it's in the fall.

>> Anne Cockrell: And because of the fall, that's the reason why adoption exists, because the family had to be broken up for me to adopt Mark. Right, Correct. And that's not, you know, that's something that Mark is going to have to grow up and learn about. And you know, we're still. That's a daily thing that we need to pray about because we want to steward his heart in the right way and answer the questions in the right timing, in the right way that his heart needs. And so, yeah, adoption just isn't a simple fix for infertility.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yep. And, so that's, folks, if you're enlightened by this conversation, that's just a glimpse into what, what is discussed on Hannah's heart. And they have on experts and physicians and ob, gyns that talk very in depth on, on the biblical perspective of, of, marriage and family and having children and some of the struggles there.

Ann is talking about Bibles for Babies this week

But what we're doing this week, Anne is talking about Bibles for Babies. So tell us a little bit about this campaign.

>> Anne Cockrell: Well, Bibles for Babies is very special to me because, last year we started it for the first time and, it was, y' all, let me do this in honor of my baby boy, John, Micah, who passed away in 2023. He lived for about 27 minutes after he was born. And so as his first birthday was approaching last year, what would have been his birthday? You know, of course, I mean, as you can probably imagine, you think about your baby getting to blow out their first birthday candles or open birthday gifts. Or making birthday.

>> Walker Wildmon: All the memories, all the things.

>> Anne Cockrell: Yeah, that, you know, one at, you know, that one week in the hospital or a few days we were in the hospital with him, we were like living all those things out and realizing the things that we wouldn't get to experience with him. But as that, that time was coming up, it was like my mama heart needed and wanted to do something in honor and memory of him. And so, I talked to my friend and pastor's wife, Andrea at Parkgate, not necessarily about like, what should we do? It was just talking to her about their ministry, and she was telling me about a story how they had given a new ah, Beginner's Bible. That's a children's Bible with beautiful illustrations. It starts in Genesis about the creation and goes, you know, to Daniel and the lion's den and Jesus's birth and all of that. but it's definitely four children. they had given someone had donated them a few of those Bibles and they had given a girl one. And the girl, she received it after her positive pregnancy test there at the clinic. And she went home that night and from what I'm told, she read that whole Bible that night to her little baby in her belly. And she came back the next day and said, I want to know this Jesus that this Bible is talking about. I don't know who you're talking about. And so after that it was like they already knew that the spiritual needs were there and that we needed to meet them. But you know, as a crisis pregnancy clinic, they, you know, have been so focused on the physical needs, which we need to do ultrasounds and diapers and wipes and formula, things like that. All of that is needed. Right. But you know, when you have a mama coming to know the Lord, we know that now, hopefully that baby's spiritual needs are going to be met. And all of that came from a simple, or what we think is simple children's Bible.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah, that story right there just amplifies the generational spiritual reach that can be had through simply sharing the word of God. Now you have to your point, you have a mother coming to know Jesus, you have potentially the father coming to know Jesus or a future spouse, depending on the circumstance. You've got the child being raised in a Christian home, and then the, the blessings that come from that are generational, multi generational. And so, it's a very simple need being met. and, and the scripture talks about how the Lord's word doesn't return void that's right. I mean, God's going to do. He's going to work in the hearts of people who read His Word, in ways that that man can't even imagine or figure out. And so that's what we're doing this week, folks. If you go over to afr.net right there on the homepage, you'll see the Bibles for Babies campaign. You can Click learn more. $10. This is very practical, very affordable. $10. You can make an impact. if you want to, of course, give more. If you want to give 100 and do 10 Bibles, you can. But $10 will be guaranteed to provide one Bible. Once again, this is in partnership with Park Gate Pregnancy Clinic here in North Mississippi. And they're reaching all of this region. They're even reaching some, some of the, you know, Memphis, which is in Tennessee, Memphis area, probably a little bit of Birmingham, Alabama. So it's a pretty broad reach that Park Gate is doing. And we've been partnering with them for many, many years, going back over a decade. And so, Anne, I almost said Hannah, Anne, tell us a little bit more about some of the.

You've covered infertility, child loss, adoption, singleness

Like, give us some examples of some of the guests you guys have on your program, some of the topics you talk about specifically.

>> Anne Cockrell: We have some great, great guests that have been on the program, but we have, We've covered the topic, of course, infertility. We have some. So many of those stories, and a lot of those stories that haven't been necessarily answered the way that we think that they should be answered yet. But then we have so many stories of people coming on and sharing, you know, their walk through infertility and loss to then now, you know, kid after kid after kid. You know. but we've also covered singleness, because that does affect you from being able to have children if you're trying to do it in the way that God intended. You know, we're. Yeah, we've covered child loss, we've covered crisis pregnancy centers, adoption. we've covered failed adoptions. And so we've. We've covered, I don't know if people know that might, be listening to this program, but snowflake adoption, we have had people call in and say, I didn't even know what a snowflake adoption was. And that for someone who might not know, that is when you adopt a frozen embryo produced through ivf. Produced through ivf. Right now in America, we have a million embryos stored in the freezers around the country that's just in America. And so we encourage anyone to give ah, embryo adoption a look.

Why is domestic adoption so expensive? Why does it take so long

>> Walker Wildmon: Let me, let me ask you this. the why. And I know we're going a little more than what you signed up for. She's like, why does he keep asking me? I came on here talk about Bibles for babies. And we are talking about that. You can go to afr.net check it out right there on the homepage. But this topic is just such a need to talk about. Why is a domestic adoption not even talking international? Why is domestic adoption number one so expensive? Why does it take so long? Like, I just talked to a couple the other day who've been eligible. They've done all the paperwork, everything for two years now. They haven't gotten a call yet. Now I think they are looking for a newborn adoption. But still, why is what, what's going on with the adoption system?

>> Anne Cockrell: You know, Walker, that it's a really good question and I wish I had a better answer, because I really don't know. But it does seem, I hate to say but very messed up because we know that we have so many children in need. And I do understand like needing to do a home study and making sure of who these, you know, people are that are wanting to adopt. Correct.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Anne Cockrell: But, when we know how the foster system is ran rapid with children that need a home and you know, we're just, we, we say the system's broken and we, we cover that. I had someone on a few weeks ago who was very involved in the foster system. And that is now her passion and what she can do to help, at least for Mississippi.

>> Walker Wildmon: I know, I know the cost. I've always spoken out against the cost. I think it's, I think it's absurd that a nation. And I'm not blaming, you know, adoption centers, I love them, we partner with them locally. they have costs, they gotta pay staff. Right. They've got all kind of fees to pay. But generally speaking, whether you want to do it through tax credits, I don't really care. Grants. I'm sure there's some stuff out there, but I just think it's absurd that you've got a family that's willing to take in a child forever for the rest of their life, and love them, care for them, raise them, and then you're telling them, hey, we need $70,000, we need $50,000. And these are mostly middle to lower income families. These are not always well to do couples. so, I think that needs to be addressed in some regard, probably at the state level, maybe not much of a federal issue. and then, the foster system, you know, it's got its issues, but to your point earlier, this is not God's original plan for brokenness at this scale. So, so we are dealing with broken situations. So as humans, you're trying to do the best you can with a broken situation, and that is adoption, in many cases. So, Anne, thanks so much for coming on.

>> Anne Cockrell: Thanks for having me.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yep. Thanks for letting me ramble and ask you questions. I didn't tell you I was going to ask you, but that's just part of it.

>> Anne Cockrell: I will look into that.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah. Next time, you'll send Kendra, go answer Walker's random questions that he doesn't prep me for. So that's part, of the program. And I do it to every single guest. You can ask them. All right, folks, go over to afr.net bibles for babies. $10 provides one Bible for a mother and a child at our local, pregnancy resource center in North Mississippi. And we're doing that the rest of this week, afr.net, check it out on the homepage. We'll be back in a.

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Chris Woodward: GDP numbers for second quarter came in better than expected

>> Walker Wildmon: Welcome, back to the program. Walker Wildmon here with you on this edition of the Core. You can go to our website, afr.net, check out the program podcast, and we have Chris, Woodward in with us today, as we do each Friday. Chris, welcome back.

>> Chris Woodward: Thank you very much.

>> Walker Wildmon: Well, Chris, one of your beats over at American Family News, afn.net is the economy. That's why you and I don't hardly go a Friday without talking about it. The, GDP numbers, the updated or revised, GDP numbers for Q2 quarter two, came out this week, right?

>> Chris Woodward: Yes. and this would be a very positive number. I say that for a couple of reasons. number one, it was better than expected. Experts, thought we would see somewhere in the range of around 2.93%. It actually came in at 3.3%. The bigger the number, the better the economy, the better the growth. So you want a big number. You don't want something like 2%, numbers that you saw under President Obama and Biden. You want a bigger number. And certainly you want an even bigger number than what you had back in the, first quarter, which is June or January, February, March, as the temperatures warm and people start to get out and about and they start to buy things for the new season. That's in the days ahead. You want that number to be good. So it came in at a good number and it was better than expected. Which runs counter to the. This man is going to ruin the economy with all of his policy stuff, which we talk about on the show on a weekly basis.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah, most. there's two, there's two caveats that I want to provide. Well, there's one caveat that I want to provide to this statement. Most economists, at least that are on the mainstream economic shows, they predicted doom and gloom as a result of President Trump's tariff strategy. All right, That's a fact. We can play clip after clip of them predicting that we're going to go into a great depression. Your iPhone is going to cost $5,000. they were given all these absurd numbers of how terrible it was going to be. all right, so that none of that came to pass. All right. And even Jerome Powell is now admitting that tariffs have had no impact on inflation. well, one caveat to that and possible explanation is that most of the tariffs were very temporary.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Walker Wildmon: and none of them were, 100, 150%. most of them settled at 10%. With the exception of China, they remained elevated. so there is that fact that it wasn't as drastic as President Trump initially came out the gate on. So that's probably some of the explanation. But either way, I mean, zero, zero impact on inflation. Now we are starting to see inflation pick back up a little bit. I don't know, how long that's going to last. Some of the economists are saying it's going to get worse before it gets better. But, Chris, what I've learned over the last few years is whatever the experts are saying, the opposite is probably going to come true. So inflation next month is probably going to cool again and normalize, and we're not going to have a long term inflation or stagnation problem.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, I think one thing that will certainly help Trump, if inflation remains a bit of a concern, is the fact that we have kind of a sound energy policy where we're going. This is what we're going to do. Because as you and I have talked about on the show, you need a sound energy policy because energy was a big driver of inflation under President Biden. And when you come out and you make statements like, we're not going to drill anymore, we're going to use unicorn juice and all these, things of the future to clean the environment. that makes problems on the stock market, that makes problems for consumers. That makes problems for people that invest or have investments, in various fossil fuel companies. So the fact that he is saying we're going to drill and we're going to drill in these places that we haven't drilled, in a long time, if ever, that's going to help those kinds of things. And it's one of the reasons why gas prices today are cheaper than they have been going into, five years, the last few Labor Day weekends.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah. Yeah. This is the lowest. This Labor Day is set to be the lowest fuel prices since 2020.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Walker Wildmon: Last report.

>> Chris Woodward: I reap those savings, America.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yes. So 2020, remember, this is right before COVID and so, technically right after Covid, but nonetheless, lowest, lowest fuel prices in five years. I think they can go lower. I think air is going to challenge that because of the energy need there.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes. Something I think that the administration could do. And I want to say maybe they've announced this or said that they would look into it. We need more refineries. I think if we had more refineries, not only in the US but in other parts of the country, including in places like California that don't want them, it's going to help everybody.

>> Walker Wildmon: I can, I can tell you how we get gas under $2.

>> Chris Woodward: Okay.

>> Walker Wildmon: Ah. And you and I have talked about this a little bit. I've talked about it extensively on my show. Nuclear.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Walker Wildmon: So. So the new, the new thing. And folks can. They can clip this, on the podcast and then in 10 years you can come back and tell me how. Right I was.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Walker Wildmon: But no, I'm kidding.

Chris White: Small modular nuclear reactors could dramatically lower energy costs

The, the small modular nuclear reactors, like running cities. Yeah. is going to be a thing. It's already being launched in, actually in Alabama for some data centers. Utah. at the federal energy facilities there. They're working on it. These are like. Chris, these are, these are reactors that are the size of a small shipping container.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Walker Wildmon: That can be dropped and deployed in a matter of weeks.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Walker Wildmon: And run entire cities. And, and the affordability. My point is getting back to the energy cost.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Walker Wildmon: We could drive energy costs down so much to where investors are going to be. Are we going to be asking themselves, how do we make money off this because it could be so cheap.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. It's a no brainer idea. Certainly. you got to be careful when the government gets involved because they often find ways to screw it up. But.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yes, true.

>> Chris Woodward: The Fact that it could be done a quite quickly really helps because it's not like a huge, ah, you know, nuclear reactor that's the size of football fields. The things that people might envision when they hear new nuclear construction, it's smaller, cheaply, installed, quickly installed, those kinds of things. And it will help. Data centers, are going to be coming, whether we want them or not with the rise of AI and all this stuff. And it is without a doubt true. I mean, it's true that those things are going to require energy and it's the energy that you and I need to power our homes and all these other things. So they have to find ways to power those things and oh, by the way, keep the rest of us, with our lights on. That is one way to do it. Some people are concerned about nuclear and I think a lot of that is unfortunately driven by like action movies and dramas, Hollywood TV shows and films and whatnot. They're scared of it.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: and you shouldn't get your knowledge of nuclear power from Hollywood, just like you shouldn't get your knowledge of dinosaurs from Jurassic park movies. There's a lot of it that's fake and it's, it's meant to scare you. nuclear power is actually something that I think we should have gone and started using a long time ago.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: And it also pleases, or it should please environmentalists who are concerned about emissions.

>> Walker Wildmon: Virtually no impact on.

>> Chris Woodward: Right. There's like no carbon, footprint whatsoever when it comes to a nuclear reaction.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah. Yeah. So I think that, I think that's the way of the future. Probably the next 24 to 48 months, you're going to see the deployment of this. And over time, over the next decade, you could see it drive down energy costs substantially.

>> Chris Woodward: And you know, if people have more money after paying their electric bill, they're going to go spend that money.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah. In the economy. Yes, that's right.

>> Chris Woodward: It's a win, win for everybody.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yep. So I think energy costs, over the long run is going to drop, drop down dramatically, drastically, dramatically if we lean into nuclear. so that's the way of the future. And we're already seeing examples of this being deployed around the country over the next year or two. But if you have an administration like a Biden administration, Chris, that's going to set us back. If you have a Gavin Newsom presidency, I'm not trying to put that on us, but, that's going to come in and set everybody back.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes. And that's the thing. It only makes the 2028 election and the 2032 election and all the midterms in between all that much, all that more important because we cannot, we cannot change energy plans every four years. This is the way we're going to do it. And then you get another guy and go, no, we're going to have to have.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yes, that's, on. We've got to have the presidency for eight to 12 years minimum.

>> Chris Woodward: They will never say this publicly, but liberals benefit greatly from Donald Trump's energy policy.

>> Walker Wildmon: 100%. All the left wing businessmen and CEOs, they love Trump.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Walker Wildmon: That's why they're at the White House. Every other. Your energy's better, the policy is consistent, it's business friendly. Taxes are low, and the regulations are sane. It's a fact. And, I think that's what brought President Trump into the White House. This go around a lot of business.

>> Chris Woodward: Backing, a lot of the reason why union members and other people, that would never vote for Chris.

>> Walker Wildmon: Honestly, behind the scenes, major multi billionaires were all behind Trump.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. I mean, look at how many were at the inauguration.

>> Walker Wildmon: True.

David Sacks, Elon Musk, all of them were publicly behind Trump

David Sacks, Elon Musk, all of them, they were publicly behind Trump. But I think your Bezos is of the world. I don't know this, I'm just speculating. I think your Bezos is of the world. Your JP Diamonds, not JP Diamond. Jamie Dimon, who runs JP diamond, he needs a change. I still like dress McClugh. Yeah. Jamie, who runs JP Morgan Chase, major banking conglomerate. you know, I think he was privately probably cheering on Trump, because what Biden was doing was just, was just unsustainable. We just can't operate with this insanity in the White House.

>> Chris Woodward: And Kamala's platform was a copy and paste of Biden's platform because she had to slap together a campaign and like.

>> Walker Wildmon: So it was so bad. Yeah.

Congressional Budget Office predicts $4 trillion deficit reduction in 10 years

Chris, tell us about the, we talked a little, tell us about the CBO revising their predictions on the tariff revenue. Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: This factors in with the US economy, which again grew 3.3% in the second quarter. This other positive news for, Donald Trump and his supporters, people that work for the administration, the Congressional budget office or CBO, has predicted a 4 trillion reduction on the deficit in 10 years. If this happens, it will benefit everybody listening to the sound of our voice, because the deficit just keeps going and going and going.

>> Walker Wildmon: Okay.

>> Chris Woodward: Lawmakers are spending willy nilly because we are forced to pay taxes. And they Spend our money willy nilly. and as a result, that's caused problems with things like the deficit. But the Congressional Budget Office, again, which is supposedly taking an impartial look at all these things, they crunched the numbers, did some math, which is beyond my line of thinking in terms of math, but they have, predicted a $4 trillion reduction on the deficit in 10 years. This is huge because a lot of times deficit reductions tend to be in the billions of dollars, which sounds like a lot, but it's a drop in the bucket, compared to how much our deficits are and have been.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yes, this is a good point, Chris, because the same CBO told us that because of President Trump's one big beautiful bill, that he was going to add 4 trillion to the deficit. And they said, well, we can't include tariff revenue here in this analysis because we don't know what that's going to look like. Ah, clearly they changed their mind here. Now they're beginning to talk about tariff revenue, in a technically separate report. But it all goes together. It's all part of the same strategy. The problem here is can we have 10 years of the same policies? And that's the case with every single CBO production is. You're assuming that Trump is running the tariff policy for 10 consecutive years.

>> Chris Woodward: He is wearing a 12 cap.

>> Walker Wildmon: If JD Vance gets in there as a president, he's gonna continue this same.

>> Chris Woodward: Type approach, you would think, which could.

>> Walker Wildmon: Lead to this $4 trillion deficit reduction.

>> Chris Woodward: You definitely think that Vance is gonna carry, Assuming Vance gets the torch.

>> Walker Wildmon: A lot of potential here.

>> Chris Woodward: So you would assume that he's gonna run on and embrace many of the same things that Donald Trump has done or is calling for, because he's gonna need those people to vote for him.

>> Walker Wildmon: I'll tell you, the Mike Pence I wasn't giddy about. I wasn't excited about like a Mike Pence following up a President Trump or Vice President Pence following up a President Trump. As far as terms go, term limits. I'm excited about J.D. vance. Yeah. The Vice President, I think. I think he's, he's got a lot of potential. he views a lot of the issues how we do. And he's young, youngest vice president, I believe, at a minimum in modern American history, possibly ever. I have to double check that. But nonetheless, he is spot, on a lot of these issues and he's got a lot of potential.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. One of the things that, I think interests a lot of people, it's similar to DeSantis one of the reasons why people like Desantis, he has potential, is because he was in his 40s. He's got a. He's got a wife, he's got kids. He's. His parents are still with us, as far as I know. Like, he. So. So there was a lot of things that DeSantis factors into his decision making, and a lot of people like that, because finally, you get somebody around about your age. Yeah. And so it's the same thing with J.D. vance. You've got a wife, you got seven.

>> Walker Wildmon: Kids, 37 years old.

>> Chris Woodward: His mom's still with us. so you're taking it. What do my policies mean for my mom? What do my policies mean for my kids and their future kids? Things like that? there's. There's nothing wrong with getting somebody Donald Trump's age in there, but there have been a. There. There are calls, especially on the left, for younger leaders, and it's similar on the right as well. they want somebody that can probably relate to their issues a little bit more than somebody that's been living in Manhattan for a long time with things like a golden toilet and all these other amenities.

>> Walker Wildmon: That's right. J.D. vance, to your point or to m. My point. Correction there. J.D. vance turned 40, during the presidential campaign. So. He was 40.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Walker Wildmon: and then. I'm sorry. The youngest vice president was a gentleman named John Breckenridge back in the 1850s. He was 36, which was old for 1850. Duly noted. Yep, duly noted. age expectancy has changed since then.

>> Chris Woodward: He lived a long life.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah, that was. That was a rough season of expectations, America. you're lucky to live to 45 as a male. so. But still young. 41 now. 40 to 41 now. And, got a lot of potential down the road. So my point in saying all of that, talking about consistency of policies, you get J.D. vance in there for eight years, that's 12 consecutive years of sane policies in the White House. That's a big, big deal.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. And I still wonder, like, who are the Democrats gonna truck out there? I think Gavin Newsom is waiting for that call.

>> Walker Wildmon: They're not doing good, let me tell you.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

If the Mamdani guy wins in New York City,

>> Walker Wildmon: They're still bleeding voters, you know.

>> Chris Woodward: Well, you know, to be honest with you, if they. If the Mamdani guy wins in New York City, I guarantee you, somebody that's great with a magazine or newspaper is gonna say, look, he got elected by millions of people to run New York City. Let's give him the nomination.

>> Walker Wildmon: I love it. Yeah. Yeah. If, If Vice President Harris can't win, which clearly she can't.

>> Chris Woodward: Right? Yes.

>> Walker Wildmon: Then Mom. Dummy. Are. Whatever. The Minnesota guy. I don't even want to try to pronounce. No, the.

>> Chris Woodward: Oh, the other guy.

>> Walker Wildmon: Minneapolis guy. this. no chance. No chance. and America has spoken, and they are still speaking loud and clear. We're not perfect. We've got our issues, trust me. But this left wing insanity has been widely rejected, by voters on more than one occasion. We'll see you next time.

>> Jeff Chamblee: The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.

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