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Welcome to the corps here on American Family Radio. Glad to have you with us here on the program. Walker Wildmon here, Rick Greene, we're with you each week on the program. Thank you for being with us today. We had a very good share a thon last week. Thank you for all of you tuning in. No, I'm not going to give out the number. I think I did it enough last week but, but thank you for joining us. Those of you who called in and went online and donated. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. We are listener supported and we need you to support our work. So we appreciate that. We're very grateful and we're going to continue on with the programming, the Christian centered programming here on the network and hopefully bringing you not just news and commentary, but hopefully bringing you biblical wisdom as well. And so that's what we're going to keep doing here on American Family Radio.
We are starting the trek through Acts. We'll pick out a verse or two to highlight
Lord willing, let's turn our attention to the Scripture. Acts chapter one. We are starting the trek through Acts. We'll take a chapter a week, pick out a verse or two to highlight here on the program. Acts chapter two. There's an account here in I'm sorry, Acts chapter one. There's an account here in Acts chapter one. Looking at verses nine through. There's also other accounts, later in the chapter, but specifically I did not realize and once again this is a little bit of a confession and those of you who are astute at the scriptures can go ahead and make fun of me. but in all honesty, I knew that there were obviously the accounts of Jesus life and his ministry and his death, burial and resurrection in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, the accounts of Jesus life. But I did not realize until recently that here in Acts chapter one, Paul, whose ministry began after the Ascension of Jesus, obviously, Jesus appears before Paul, blinds him with the light, and Paul, is born again on the road to Damascus. I did not realize that Paul actually wrote about some of Jesus final, hours, final days. As far as the ascension, the upper room, all of this that I'm about to read about, was just news to me that, Paul gave accounts of the Ascension even though Paul himself wasn't there. So this is, ah, Acts chapter 1. Looking at verses 9 and 10, talking about Jesus here. Now, when he had spoken these things, when they watched, he was taken up talking about Jesus, and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them and in white apparel, who also said, men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? The same Jesus who was taken up from you into heaven will so come in like manner as you saw him go into heaven. That's, ah, Acts chapter 1, verses 9 through 11 here. But there's so much to be gleaned from Scripture. with human strength and human knowledge, it's nearly impossible to fully grasp the entirety of Scripture. There's the entire council of God's Word. But I would encourage you to continue reading and studying God's Word and take from it, what God intended, as it is the inspired, infallible, perfect word of God. And of course, we have to have the Holy Spirit, to help us with our understanding of God and all things godliness. That's Acts chapter one. That's Paul's account of Jesus ascension. This is very fitting. In the weeks following Easter, the fact that we live, we serve a risen and living Savior. That's Acts chapter one, verses nine through 11.
AFA's Activate Summit is coming up this summer in Mississippi
All right, let me remind you a few more things, and then we'll jump into the news. And, there's plenty to talk about, but our Activate Summit's coming up this summer. Activate Summit is coming up this summer. If you go to afa.netevents you'll find all things Activate Summit and other events as well. But the dates for our Activate Summit this summer are July 16th through the 18th. July 16th through the 18th. Here in Tupelo, Mississippi, at the Cadence bank arena, we're going to have a great lineup of speakers, including Brother Bert Harper from Exploring the Word, Pastor Jeff Schrieve of Real, Truth. For today, the morning show on AFR. Dr. Jessica Peck will be there with us. Katy Faust will be there, who is host of them before us on afr. Laura Petherbridge will be there as well, and several others will be there at our Activate Summit. We would love to have you join us and you can go to afa.netevents to find out all the information you need there for our Activate Summit. Coming up July 16th through the 18th. Registration is open, so you can go ahead and Register [email protected] Advance. Of course we'll be at the Ark Encounter in the Creation Museum in the fall. In October, we'll be at the Ark Encounter in the Creation Museum for our annual AFA at the Ark trip. If you want to join us there, that's October 29th and 30th.
President Trump posted a picture on Truth Social depicting himself as Jesus
All right, jumping into the news of the day and over the weekend, we're going to break down, in the last segment what happened with the Iran negotiations. we may do some of that this segment if we have time. and we'll break down how that went, bring in a couple clips and bring you up to speed on what's going on with the Iran conflict. As President Vice President J.D. vance was in Islamabad, Pakistan over the weekend for 21 hours, negotiating with the Iranians. So we'll bring you up to speed on the latest on that front. Nonetheless, I wanted to address the Truth Social post. Some of you that aren't on social media don't know about this and it's probably for the better as far as abstaining from social media as much as possible. But nonetheless, President Trump late last night posted a picture depicting himself as Jesus with a healing scene. This was an AI generated image with President, Trump being depicted and as Jesus healing, people. And between the attire and the context and the angels behind him, it's very clear that whoever created this AI generated image, the intent was to depict President Trump as Jesus, which obviously is unacceptable and blasphemous. so President Trump picked this image up, that was already circulating on social media, reposted it on Truth Social and drew a lot of backlash from the Christian community, rightly so. And so President Trump has since taken that post down this morning, which is a good thing, a good decision made for President Trump to take that post down. What I want to speak about this segment, the few minutes we have left is this, two things. The inability for some people to accept the fact that President Trump isn't perfect, but secondly, the type of so called spiritual advisors that President Trump has historically surrounded himself Specifically, Paula White.
Paula White: Christians need to accept that President Trump makes mistakes
All right, the first thing I want to address briefly is this notion out there, and whether people acknowledge this verbally or not, it exists and it's undeniable. So we're not even going to try to act like this is a debatable fact or not. Okay? There are a lot of people, I don't know what the percentage breakdown is of, like, voters and the American public, but there are a lot of people and very vocal people out there that are avid President Trump supporters, avid voters of President Trump, which is completely fine. But they also have this inability to accept the fact that, that President Trump isn't perfect, that occasionally he makes mistakes. Now, if we were to tell you that about me or Bobby or anybody else, you would go, duh. We all make mistakes. We're all humans. We're all fallible. Even Christians that are regenerated and have the Holy Spirit, even they are capable of sinning. This is a core doctrine of the Christian faith, and it is also borne out through natural means. Look around. There is no one perfect, no, not one to quote the scripture, alright? And so it isn't as if we're just picking on President Trump and calling out his imperfections. But then none of us other Christians want to accept our imperfections. We're all imperfect. That's a fact. To think that I can go on the radio for an hour a day, hundreds of days out of the year and think that I don't ever say anything wrong or misspeak or quote something that's not true. It happens. And so the point isn't to call out or pick on President Trump. But folks, we have to have the ability to acknowledge when people make mistakes, whether it's the president or our pastor, we have to have the ability, the humility and the wisdom to simply accept that people make mistakes at times. And so this persistent, defending of President Trump, even when his mistakes are for everyone to see in plain sight and indisputable, is just very hard for me to comprehend. It's very difficult for me to comprehend that level of narcissism and inability to just take things for how they are. All right? And I think, unfortunately, there are a lot of people out there, whether they're born again or not. I don't know. I'm not a reader of the heart. I don't know the soul. But the fact of the matter is, is there are a lot of people who do profess Christ out there and also have this, this inability and this blind spot to recognize when President Trump occasionally does and says things that he shouldn't. And I think that's a problem. I think it's more of a problem for the born again Christian out there because they're the ones professing the name of Christ and claiming to follow Scripture. So the church has to be the church and we have to be loyal to scripture and be studious of scripture and know what God's word says. All right, and we've got to put the pride aside, we've got to put the politics aside, the ideology aside. And I know the left and darkness and dark forces are clearly against President Trump in many areas. They don't want him to succeed. That's abundantly clear. Clearly we're not in favor of the Democrats and their, their insanity and their, in many cases, demonic behavior. Clearly that's not acceptable. And we speak out on that virtually every day on the program. All right, so this isn't, pick a side. All right, this is just acknowledge when a, ah, knowledge, acknowledge reality. All right, that's the appeal here, is just to acknowledge truth and acknowledge reality. Secondly, and equally as important, and this isn't to shift the blame away from President Trump, but to simply acknowledge that some of the people that have surrounded President Trump are unwise. Counselors. And I'm going to play a clip here. Paula White, who I've met in person, know as an, as kind of an acquaintance, she's made some serious blunders when referring to President Trump. And in my opinion, she has idolized President Trump from the podium at the White House, and it's unacceptable. So I'm going to play a clip before we wrap up this program of Paula White, who's the quote, unquote, spiritual advisor to President Trump, referring to him or liking him to Jesus Christ. Clip 4 let's listen.
>> Paula White: and Mr. President, no one has paid the price like you have paid the price. It almost cost you your life. You were betrayed and arrested and falsely accused. It's a familiar pattern that our Lord and Savior showed us. But it didn't end there for him, and it didn't end there for you. God always had a plan. On the third day, he rose. He defeated evil. He conquered death, hell in the grave. And because he rose, we all know that we can rise. And sir, because of his resurrection, you rose up. Because he was victorious. You were victorious. And I believe that the Lord said to tell you this. Because of his victory, you will be victorious in all you put your hands to.
Putting President Trump in the same category as Jesus Christ is wrong and unacceptable
>> Walker Wildmon: All right, folks, a likening President Trump or anyone for that matter and what, what they've gone through on this earth and what Jesus Christ did, where he took the sin of the world on his shoulders. Folks, that is a wrong comparison. That is an unequal, unbiblical wrong comparison. And it's not even close. So, yes, President Trump's been attacked. Yes, he's been through a lot. Yes, he's been unfairly targeted. But putting him in the same category and sentence as Jesus Christ, the Messiah, the son of God, is just plain wrong and unacceptable. And people like that should not be around the president. We'll see you next time.
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You can be supportive of President Trump and also acknowledge when he does things wrong
Welcome to the Core here on American Family Radio. Glad to have you with us here on the program. Well, just to put a bow on the last segment, the clock wasn't very friendly to me. As Abraham Hamilton III says, this, and there are other things, obviously, that have happened in the past and more recently that President Trump does that are distasteful or, or shouldn't be done as president, things like that. but, the fact of the matter is that, you can, you can be supportive of President Trump and the positive and good policies that he's doing, and also acknowledge, when he does things he shouldn't. All right? That's just, that's just how things work. That's, that's. That's life. All right? And this isn't just President Trump. And this is the thing that I'm trying to drive home is that this standard is not just exclusive to President Trump. This is exclusive. I mean, this is inclusive to life as a human. Whether it's our spouse or our children or our family or neighbors or those we go to church with, whatever it is. There are things people do sometimes where you just need to acknowledge and in some instances call out when people do things that they shouldn't, that's unbiblical, that's wrong. And, that doesn't equate to you hating them or severing relationships with them indefinitely. all of these things, all of these, absolutes that we place on things, that's just not how life works. So, President Trump shouldn't have posted that image, depicting himself as Jesus. He's thankfully taken it down. and there needs to be people around President Trump that speak wisdom and humility into his life and not this, Paula White. And I'm just going to say it like it is, and this is probably going to get me disinvited from different meetings at the White House, but I don't really care at this point. this Paula White prosperity gospel and where you equate what President Trump has gone through criminally and civilly in the last few years with the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. This, which, that comment she made, by the way, was during a Good Friday breakfast or brunch at the White House just a couple weeks ago. So the context there couldn't be worse. And, those kind of statements are unwise. They're wrong. All right? And you can say a lot of kind things about President Trump. You can encourage him, challenge him and pray for him, but we don't have to equate his situation, to Jesus's. All right? That's just not accurate. And so he needs people around him, like Franklin Graham, like Dr. Robert Jeffress and others that, can speak truth into his life. He needs godly wisdom spoken into his life. And that should be the prayer of all of us that the Lord would surround President Trump with people who speak truth, wisdom and humility into his life and his administration.
The major hangup is the nuclear enrichment of the uranium
Alright, moving on to the Iran situation, Vice President J.D. vance flew over to Pakistan over the weekend for a 21 hour marathon of deliberations and negotiations. Pakistan served as the mediator. And, after 21 hours, Vice President Vance came out and essentially said that the major. Hang up here and I'll play his words in a minute. The major hangup is the nuclear enrichment is the uranium. That, that seems to be the main hold up, there may be some tertiary issues that are also holding the negotiations up. But the reason there, there isn't a quote, deal yet between Iran and the US to end this conflict is because Iran is insistent upon maintaining its ability to not only have uranium, but also to enrich it to weapons grade. All right? And it's, it's, I don't have to spend long, more than 15 seconds on why it's a bad idea for Iran to have nuclear weapons. All right? They are run by radical Muslims who are Muslim zealots. Their core theology and ideology is contingent upon the permanent ending of Israel and the Jewish people and secondarily the United States that they call the Great Satan. All right?
>> Walker Wildmon: According to the Iranians and their leaders, who are extreme Muslims, they are, bent per their own statements and their own worldview on ensuring that the Jews and the United States no longer exist. Alright? And you can't allow people like that to have something like a nuclear weapon. All right? And, that's the position of President Trump and it makes perfect sense.
Vice President Vance says negotiations with Iran were not successful on nuclear issue
All right, so let's listen to Vice President Vance. This was him very briefly letting us know, that the negotiations were not successful from the point of making a quote, deal.
>> JD Vance: I don't want to negotiate in public after we negotiated for 21 hours in private. But the simple fact is that we need to see an affirmative commitment that they will not seek a nuclear weapon and they will not seek the tools that would enable them to quickly achieve a nuclear weapon. That is the core goal of the President of the United States. And that's what we've tried to achieve through these negotiations. Again, their nuclear program, such as it is, the enrichment facilities that they've, that they had before, they've been destroyed. But the simple question is, do we see a fundamental commitment of will for the Iranians not to develop a nuclear weapon? Not just now, not just two years from now, but for the long term. We haven't seen that yet. We hope that we will.
>> Walker Wildmon: Well, there you have it. That's Vice President Vance concluding that Iran is currently not willing to give up their enrichment capabilities and their plans to enrich the uranium that is already at 60%. this is, I think these negotiations, some people were a little kind of skeptical and pragmatic about, or pessimistic rather about having these negotiations to begin with. I mean, people like Mark Levin and Lindsey Graham and others were basically saying, you know, why negotiate? This is a waste of time. We know what's going to happen here. We've been quote, talking for 47 years with the Iranians, and I understand that sentiment. And obviously, statistically speaking, the probability of us getting Iran to give up the nuclear weapons in Pakistan was very slim, looking at history and the number of times we've attempted this. But nonetheless, I think this negotiation, to such extent that it was, this event in Pakistan was critical for a variety of reasons. But most importantly, I think it was critical to send a message to everyone, including the people like myself, that at times over the last five weeks has been hesitant to really go all in on this narrative of war with Iran. I'm, I, don't know where I, where what I feel right now as far as should we keep this going, should we look for an off ramp? I'm not sure yet. But I can tell you that everyone, including the American people, needed to see that President Trump and Vice President Vance do genuinely, in good faith, would like to end this conflict and end the Iranian nuclear threat once and for all through peaceful means. And that was President Trump's approach before the conflict, before the war, even well before midnight hammer in June. And that continues to be his position, is that if the Iranians want a peaceful way of, out of this, a non kinetic way out of this, let's do it. But it's going to have to involve you not having uranium anymore, at least at levels that are nuclear, that are weapons grade. And so any further conflict, any further, escalation of this conflict is completely avoidable on behalf of the Iranians. But they're so committed to this nuclear program and the ability to threaten people in the region and including at some point could be the United States mainland, that, they don't want to give it up. They don't want to give it up. That's how radical, that's how committed they are. and, President Trump's team has tried to talk this thing down, but the Iranians just keep being persistent in this nuclear threat, which is obviously unacceptable.
President Trump has urged countries squeezed by Iran's disruption to turn to American energy
one of the latest developments on the economic front is the, Strait of Hormuz. The US Is currently working on, decongesting and opening, fully opening the Strait of Hormuz. President Trump has also put on a blockade, a naval blockade of any Iranian vessels, any vessels going to Iranian shorelines to engage in any sort of economic activity in the Strait of Hormuz. But the side effect, if you will, of this closure of the Strait of Hormuz is driving hundreds of energy vessels, empty tankers, to America's Gulf of America to fill up on U.S. energy, U.S. oil, U.S. natural gas. Let's listen to this Fox, report. This is going to be clip 2.
>> Fox News: A ship tracking firm reports 121 empty oil tankers are making their way to the United states of America. 68 of those 121 vessels are very large crude carriers capable of carrying 2 million barrels apiece. President Trump has urged countries squeezed by Iran's disruption of the Strait of Hormuz to turn to American energy supplies instead. Well, it would appear perhaps they are obliging him. They are listening to Trump. The president told Fox, quote, china can send their chips ships to the U.S. china can send their ships to Venezuela, while also saying that empty oil carrying ships from many nations are all headed to the US to load up that from the President of the United States.
>> Walker Wildmon: Well, there you have it. That's a Fox report on, the number of energy tankers coming to the US to get a fill up on energy to go back to these other countries to deliver oil, natural gas, et cetera, coal in some instances. This is a, it has a long term potential to be a net benefit. And here's why. America has a lot of energy. Clearly we're one of the top, producers of energy, generally speaking. we, even our oil production outpaces multiple countries combined, even in the Middle East. And it's a stable market. Now, I know you look at what's going on now, what's going on with COVID and other things, and you go stable, Walker, what's stable about this? I'm speaking relative to the rest of the world. The US Economy is stable. It's somewhat predictable. All right. Now, you know, wars and things like that are obviously unpredictable. But as far as the ability to retrieve energy from the American mainland, that is a pretty predictable setup. And I think some of these countries that have been getting oil from the Middle east or maybe even Iran in some instances are going to look at this and go look, yeah, maybe that the transit is a little quicker to Iran or through the Strait of Hormuz. Maybe it's a little more affordable in air quotes to get it through the Strait of Hormuz. But if we can just add X amount of thousand miles to our trek, then we can get it from the US and not have to deal with this anymore, not have to deal with this Iran situation. And so maybe that's the net benefit long term to this Strait of Hormuz being closed. but nonetheless, President Trump and the military are currently working on reopening the Strait off Hormuz. And I think if we can get that reopened, that's a big deal, a big advantage to the United States because Iran's been kind of holding that over everyone, saying, look, we're not reopening this until you renege. But if we can get it reopened on our own without even having to deal with Iran, that's a major boon in the side of President Trump, and the entire negotiating team there to get the straight ahead moves back open. And if you do that and you control it, then Iran has no cards left. Some would say they didn't have any cards left to begin with, but this reopening the strait and getting the commercial traffic back going, I mean, it leaves Iran in a seriously bad spot. Not that they're going to somehow come to the negotiating table or reach a quote, unquote deal. But I think the US And President Trump have enough options here on the table where at the end of the day, Iran doesn't have to, quote, come to the table. We don't have to sign on the dotted line with Iran for this thing to end in a way that is positive for the US and positive for our allies. I think if you've obliterated their military, both their ballistic missile threats, their drone threats, and their navy, if you've done those three things and the uranium is buried in some mountains, some complexes, and we've got satellites on it, we've got intelligence on it, we know if they go dig it up, and then you reopen the Strait of Hormuz, on the other hand, to me, that's a victory. Now, yes, Iran didn't sign a deal. Iran didn't, quote, you know, cut a deal with the U.S. i keep saying, quote, because I want us to. The coming to the table and signing a deal, folks, is really, it's really not that big of a deal, no pun intended. Because then you've got to. Even if they say they're going to abolish the nuclear program, well, then you got to get them to give up the uranium. You got to make sure they're not hiding uranium somewhere else. There's a lot of verification steps that are ongoing and very difficult to follow up on in some instances. And it's really a day by day thing. Any type of deal like that is a day by day thing. So I think the President and the military and the Department of State can get a victory out of this, a strategic victory out of this, without Iran having to consent to it. And maybe that's where we're going here. we'll just track it and we'll see as we go, what's comical.
Bobby: I misspoke about Paul writing the book of acts
I do got to go back before we wrap up the segment because, my mother in law who works in donor support just text me. And I said that Paul wrote the book of acts. Obviously it was Luke. So I misspoke there and it's actually very fitting. This is how God works. It's actually fitting that I misspoke as I was also talking about the ability to acknowledge when we make mistakes, referring to President Trump. Bobby. So, yes, Luke wrote the book of acts, and I said Paul. So I misspoke. But sorry I didn't help you out on that one, brother. Yeah, but watching what's going on with, Ms. Now. Yeah, no, that's all right. so I wanted to correct that on the record and I appreciate the folks calling in on that. Hey, that was a good test. We got people who know their scripture, they know their authors, and they know who wrote which book of the Bible. So we appreciate you guys and ladies calling in on that and letting us know to correct that. Well, we got one segment left. We've got a very, good interview lined up for this last segment talking about these mystery, unidentified aerial, craft aircraft flying over US Military bases. Obviously the whole UFO topic is very intriguing and seems to be getting a lot of traction with the, the government to release some of this otherwise classified information. So we're going to talk with John Ferguson, founder of Saxon Aerospace, organization. He's also a drone expert. We'll talk with him in a few minutes about what on earth is going on with these mysterious sightings over American airspace. We'll be back in a few minutes.
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AFR welcomes John Ferguson to discuss unidentified aircraft sightings over American airspace
>> Walker Wildmon: Welcome back to the Core. Glad to have you with us on this edition of the program. Lot to cover. We've covered a lot so far and, glad to be with you on today's program. As a reminder, you can subscribe to the podcast wherever you Listen to podcasts. You can also watch the video live on Facebook, otherwise known as meta stream.afa.net and all of our major social platforms. we have the video up and of course live streaming the [email protected] and the AFR app. jumping to our next guest, which I alluded to at the end of the last segment, John Ferguson is with us. He's founder of Saxon Aerospace, he's also a drone expert and he's here to help us break down to the much of our, to the best of our ability, what's going on with these sightings, of these aircraft or otherwise, objects over America's airspace and other places around the world. John, welcome to the program.
>> John Ferguson: Well, thank you. It's great to be here.
>> Walker Wildmon: Well, John, tell us a little bit about your background, how you got into aerospace and specifically exploring these sightings, these unidentified sightings.
>> John Ferguson: Well, yeah, I was born and raised in a small town in Kansas and I, always felt like I was a pirate in my old days. So you know, I was always mischievous and just had a draw to the water. So as soon as I got out of high school, I went to, I went to the Marine Core and it was a deep sea diver, reconnaissance, scout, swimmer and I, I got out of the military, after a while and, and decided that remote system technology was just something that I really wanted to do and I wanted to stay in the water. So again I, I was a commercial, diver and then got into piloting submersible vehicles. I traveled around the world, hit 87 countries now, and I just always knew that you know, remote system technology was just really what I wanted to do professionally in my in my life. And so here we are.
John Ferguson says 98% of drone sightings are in the United States
>> Walker Wildmon: John, break down the history briefly, just of how this, these, these sightings have evolved over the decades. Because obviously the ufo, and when I say ufo, I know people think aliens are, you know, sci fi films, but essentially these are unidentified flying Objects. That's the definition of UFO if I'm not mistaken. Unidentified flying objects or UAPs, unidentified aerial phenomenon. but these are, these are essentially things, objects in the air that we're not sure what they are. explain how this has evolved and the sheer level of sightings over throughout, let's say the last several decades.
>> John Ferguson: Well, there's an awful lot going on in this world today as, as you all know. it's interesting. The very first drone that I'm aware of was back in World War II when the Japanese were filling hot air balloons and putting bombs on timers, and the hot air balloons would go up into the jet stream and make it all the way over to the west coast of the United States. So those were the first drones. So they've been around for a while. They've been in Korea, they've been in Vietnam, and all of our recent wars. Right. So, you know, the drone technology has evolved so much over the past several decades that now these things can almost seem like, like they defy the laws of gravity, which is not common. But I, I really believe that, a lot of the technology that people are seeing is technology that we possess here in the United States. And, and I believe that a lot of the drone sightings that people are seeing, I would say there's 98% of the drone technology or the incursions into our critical infrastructure. Are civilians, or the, our own government testing our weaknesses in our critical infrastructure. do I, do I think there's little green men out there? Yeah, sure I do. I've seen some things, pretty weird. But I think people, if they're really worried about, an adversarial nation launching large amounts of drones over our critical infrastructure, I think they should relax a little bit. I don't believe that that's the case at all.
>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah, my personal opinion on this, and this is surely an opinion based on the publicly available information, and so I can't cite seven different data sources to back this up, but I think, at least in part, I think the US has some of these technologies and capabilities and the public just doesn't know it because it's all classified. and I think that makes up, some of these instances, maybe not all, but some of these instances. And the reason I say that is because you look at, for example, I'm looking at this F35B fighter jet that has the ability for vertical takeoff. And this, this isn't new technology. This video I'm looking at from 2013, so over a decade ago, we've got fighter jets that do vertical takeoffs and then obviously can fly, ah, horizontal. So, so that concept of a, of a craft being able to go up and straight are vertical and horizontal is a technology that is currently there and has been there for some time. Why would we think that these top secret programs don't have technology that does the concept, but does it at much higher speeds?
>> John Ferguson: Well, you know, I have spoken to, I've spoken to people who are very high, into the government system and they have and Again, these folks are absolutely no reason to ever lie to me. But they've said that they have spoken, you know, to these people who are, who are not from here. Right. They've said they've had conversations with these people. There are so many people around the world that have had conversations and are, have been exposed to these, you know, these, beings or whatever. Right. me personally, I've never seen one. You know, I'd love to, but, but I haven't seen anyone. But I have seen some orbs flying around, fighter jets, you know, in, in my past that, that they, it's just no way that our, our technology could do that. Now I had some friends of mine that worked in Cheyenne Mountain and they never told me what they saw, but they said that there's technology down there that, we as the American people or the world never see for 50 years. So there is not one bit of me that doesn't think that we have that capability. I fully believe that that technology is out there. And I have had reports that some of these things, they do belong to us. So, but, but then on the other side of my brain, I'm thinking, well, if we have all of this technology, why are we in a conventional world war with another country? Why don't we just, you know, send our own little green men out there to go handle the situations we have and nobody has to die.
>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah, right. Yeah.
>> John Ferguson: You know, so it's, it's a really conflicting, thing for me internally.
>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah, I'm not, and I don't want to get in a debate with you because I don't have, I don't have the goods, I don't have the information in front of me, nor am I knowledgeable enough on this. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not sold on the alien talk. if you want to call it. Some people would say, well, I'm not calling it an alien, I'm just calling it an object. Doesn't look like it's from here. Whatever. I don't know whether these are spiritual interactions, you know, with spiritual forces. it would surprise me, if, once again, we're talking to John Ferguson here about drones and UFO sightings. It would surprise me, John, if there are something, if there is something alien like or non human that we've come in contact with and have evidence of, but that hasn't been leaked in a provable manner. Now there's been leaks as far as what people say they saw, but it would be Surprising to me if we have that and there are hundreds of people within the government that know that and have seen that, and it hasn't been leaked yet. There's just so much that gets leaked from the government that. That would be hard to believe. But at the same time, if it's in some of these programs, it would be actually very difficult to leak. Right.
>> John Ferguson: Yeah. And, you know, maybe I'm a coward, I don't know. But I'd be way too afraid to leak something like that because I don't want to be in jail.
>> Walker Wildmon: True. You know, true.
>> John Ferguson: And, and my belief. And, you know, you may have remembered the, the drones in 24, 25, around October, November, January. Time frame, 24 into 25. Well, on the east coast, yeah. Well, myself and a couple other gentlemen were working on trying to stop a nuclear warhead from coming into the United States. And that's a whole other, you know, subject. But, And that was. That was very proven and very valid. But one thing that I learned at that time is that we're not fighting countries. You know, we're fighting, we're fighting evil. And, And I believe I've seen around the world. I used to have an office in Scotland, and I just absolutely love that place. And I've seen, you know, churches over in Scotland that are over a thousand years old that are turned into pubs. And my fear is that religion, spirituality is leaving this country. And, you know, it takes some warriors to fight and bring, you know, God back to the United States. But I believe more so that what I believe what you're saying is that this is more spiritual, that. That this is. This is not necessarily little green men. I think this. I think this is, you know, good and evil. And. And we're starting to see it. Because the only reason why I believe we're starting to see this stuff is because spirituality, religion, could potentially be pushed out of this country, which I do not want to see. So, that's my own personal belief.
>> Walker Wildmon: I don't know.
>> John Ferguson: You can agree with me or not.
>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah.
>> John Ferguson: I mean, love to hear your thoughts.
I'm concerned that the US is having trouble controlling these drone swarms
>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah. I mean, obviously, if we knew definitively, we would just say it and have the receipts. But the spiritual dynamic, I mean, spiritual warfare is biblical. it's proven, it's historical, it's cited. and the fact that there is a realm out there that is outside of human comprehension or human control, so to speak, a battle of God versus Satan, good versus evil, the fact that that realm exists out there in the Spiritual realm, leaves open the, the ability for spiritual things to happen that humans come in contact with. I think that's scripturally accurate there. but the military side of this and the national security side is quite fascinating and it is something you can more so put your hands on. And that is, I'm concerned that the US Is having trouble keeping up with controlling these drone swarms because the drone swarms are a thing now, whether it's over in Ukraine or in Iran, the ability for nation states to produce these drone swarms where you have hundreds or thousands of weaponized drones all operating together in sync, they could take out a target or multiple targets that we got about three or four minutes left. That seems like a major national security threat. When you have the president out in open air, you've got dignitaries out in open air. we've, to me, we've got to really advance our ability to combat these swarms of drones. That's where the risk is from a security standpoint, in my opinion.
>> John Ferguson: Yeah, you hit the nail on the head actually. And you know, a lot of these, interviews and TV interviews that I've done, I've always just called out that the administration needs to spend a lot more money on the counter drone and drone defense system because you know, the Chinese, they, they subsidize their, their industry and that's why they're the leaders of the world in drone technology. And we're behind the eight ball, not so much the military. Our, our drones in the military are, I think are more advanced than China's right now. But as far as a commercial drone, we're, we're light years behind the Chinese and and possibly coming up on the Ukrainians because the Ukrainians can pump out, you know, a thousand of these things a week because they have to. We can't do that yet. So these incursions into our country and into our critical infrastructure, these drone swarms are very real. But the smaller drones have limited battery life, so they're mostly ineffective unless they're, you know, being operated very, in a very, you know, close proximity. The larger unmanned aircraft are 150, 200, 300, $400,000. There's no adversarial nation that's going to fly that expensive of a drone like mine over a critical infrastructure without us, you know, interrogating that particular platform. But our counter drone technology, it's wonderful. It's great. It just has a lot of, lot more room to grow.
>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah. And the last thought on this that I have is that. Is that I do agree. Our military has the, has some pretty advanced capacity here and capabilities that is, that is forward deployed. but I think domestically, I think we have some serious room to catch up, because maybe around the White House and other places, there's some pretty advanced counter drone technologies. But generally speaking, like over maybe, let's say the super bowl or things like that. I just think we're not ready domestically for a drone swarm of hundreds or thousands of drones. I think that would overwhelm any type of capacity that we currently have, once again, domestically, with our domestic law enforcement. I think that's where. I think that's where the highest risk is. we got 60 seconds. Last word.
>> John Ferguson: Well, okay, again, that's great. you're absolutely right. Here's the reality of the situation. The radar systems that we have, the, the conventional radar systems, it's very difficult to pick up, drones unless it's a large swarm. The counter drone radar systems are very good, but you can get a lot through the wire. Right. So again, you don't want, here in America, we trip over our own bureaucracy. So we don't want to go shoot, microwave impulses, lasers, bullets, or frequency in, our interrupters at a drone. Because. Because what about the family of four that's flying a Cessna that's 10ft in the air? Just because when you launch that doesn't mean it stops at the drone. It keeps going.
>> Walker Wildmon: Sure.
>> John Ferguson: We don't want to shoot our own people down. So, so that's a big problem that we have, and that's a large lion share, the, issues that we're dealing with.
>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah. Thanks, John. Appreciate it, brother.
>> John Ferguson: Thank you. Thank you very much.
>> Walker Wildmon: All right, folks, we'll see you next.
>> Jeff Chamblee: The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.
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