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Rick Green: Total mayhem in Tennessee House of Representatives over redistricting plan

Welcome back to Core with Walker Wildmon and Rick Green. Rick Green, America's Constitution coach, thanks for joining me today. Man. Total mayhem in the Tennessee House of Representatives just a few minutes ago as they passed a redistricting plan. I'm actually impressed, I gotta say. I gotta say, look, as a Texan who probably wouldn't have a Texas if it weren't for all the Tennesseans, they came and fought At the Alamo. I gotta say, Tennessee. Hats off, man. This is, this is what we've been looking for. Our Republicans that want to win and save the country as bad as Democrats are willing to lie, cheat and steal in order to destroy the country. let me clarify that statement. I'm not saying we lie, cheat and steal like they do. We have to fight as hard and want to win as bad as they want to destroy. We have to want to build, save, preserve and defend as bad as they want to destroy. It's. It's. I. I mean, you know, I'm sure I'll get some hate mail for this. it's. It's King Alfred, man. It's the. It's the. It's the literally civilization against the barbarians. And if the Vikings and the barbarians, you know, they want it bad enough. We have to be willing to fight and defend. And Republicans have not been willing to do that since I've been around. I mean, I remember 30 years ago how hard it was to get Republicans to be willing to fight hard again, not cheat, not lie, but just be willing to fight hard. Be willing to accept the booze and the people not liking you. Be willing to, be unpopular, if necessary, to quote a new Skillet song. in the last year. Yeah, I'm okay with being unpopular in order to get good things done. I'm willing to speak truth and let the chips fall where they may. And not too many Republicans are willing to do that. There aren't many that have enough backbone to make a freight train take a dirt road. And we need more like that. Well, Governor DeSantis showed us how to do it. He, you know, in two days. In two days. I mean, it's just remarkable what they did in Florida with, with a redistricting map that'll pick up four Republican seats and was done in. I mean, think about that. 48 hours. In 48 hours, they got it done. Now Tennessee has turned around and followed suit. And, just a few minutes ago in the Texas, sorry, the Tennessee House, the Democrats were yelling, screaming, crying. I mean, we need, like, what we need are maybe a hundred of those old daily wire liberal tears mugs. If you, if you never had one of those, you should, you should get one. It's a, it's like a yeti. It's a nice coffee yeti mug, but it just says liberal tears on the outside. I mean, I don't care. Let them whine, let them cry. If you're watching online, this is the smallest record player in the world playing My heart bleeds for you. These people were willing to lock us up and throw away the key. They. These people were willing to completely ignore the Constitution, due process. They were willing to jail grandmothers for praying At the Capitol. They were willing to completely throw out any concept of due process. The same judge, the exact same judge that has now said that he should, apologize to the would be assassin of Donald Trump. He apologizes to the guy that, that runs in with a gun trying to kill the President of the United States. That same judge would not let me utter the word Constitution from the witness stand in a J6 trial several years ago. That's the same judge, that's the guy that would not let me talk about your First Amendment right of peaceful protest and the right of assembly and freedom of speech. Wouldn't let me utter any of those words from the stand in a federal courtroom. And now he's apologizing to an actual assassin trying to kill the President of the United States. That's who these people are, all right? That's their value system. So when they ignore the rule of law and in Virginia, when they violate their own Constitution in order to redistrict in a way that will give Democrats, four more seats, they're again Lying, cheating, stealing. To do it, we should absolutely do everything we can within the rule of law. Not lying, not cheating, not stealing, but actually pushing the envelope and doing everything we possibly can to, to defend the country. And Tennessee just did that. The Tennessee House of Representatives deserves, the Presidential Medal of Freedom. They deserve to be recognized and honored as, as, as having the wherewithal and the the backbone, shall we say, to do what's necessary to save the country. So Ron DeSantis in Florida and the legislature there, hats off hat tip to you for being willing to do what's necessary. And now Tennessee and I mean they're literally having to do it through the shouts and screams and crying of the left. And I watched the video right before we went live here and I couldn't help but smile. I mean it's just fun watching the guy, the speaker of the House and I think it's the majority leader as they just ramrod it through like you have to do. It's what they left just done anyway. They literally following procedure and they're having to yell over the microphones to even conduct the session. And I forget what Tennessee calls their officers. here it would be in Texas. Dps Department of Public Safety runs security At the state capitol. I'm guessing it's Tennessee's, Department of Public Safety. Anyway, they're literally having to remove people from the gallery that are disturbing the public peace and again, violating, not in any way peacefully doing anything. so, yeah, mayhem in Tennessee for a good cause. So I'm trying to keep up. I don't know if I've got this right, but so far, so far, let's just run down the list here. If I've got my list right. And please feel free to call in and correct me. 8885-8988-4088-8589-8840. But here's the states so far that have, have done this. Now again, I've said this enough, but just in case you're a first time listener, redistricting is perfectly legal. It's part of the political process. All it is is drawing the district lines for who will represent or how the districts will be, apportioned. In other words, let's do easy math. Let's say Your state has 100,000 people and you have 10 representatives in your House of Representatives. And so you're going to have 10 districts with roughly 10,000 people each. Now you got to figure out where to draw the lines to divide up the hundred thousand people. In your state to have 10 districts of 10,000 people. Well, you can draw those lines any way you want to, to, to get more Republicans or more Democrats or whatever.

Tennessee's proposed redistricting is even more partisan than Virginia's

That's perfectly legal and constitutional. It's not always fair. What you should do is have districts, I think that, that represent those areas of the state. And that doesn't mean necessarily you're going to have exactly, you know, let's say your, your state is, is 40% Democrat and 60% Republican. That doesn't mean you're going to have six Republicans and four Democrats. You might have seven and three, you might have eight and two. but you could do 10 and oh, you could draw the lines to where the Democrats are spread out into all the districts depending on how your state breaks up and what the actual percentages are. Well, I think that's what Tennessee just did. I think theirs is going to be 10 and oh, so it's even more partisan than Virginia's. Now if they did not violate their constitution like Virginia did, Virginia requires multiples, sessions and you know, a process, constitutional process to redistrict. Apparently Tennessee doesn't. And if they do and the Tennessee Republicans violated their own constitution to do so, then I, then shame on them and I will speak against them as much as I have the Democrats of Virginia. I don't think that's the case. And somebody please call me in if I've got that wrong. I think they're like Texas. They don't require a, multiple session or regular session to do redistricting. Now Texas, you know, you could do it anytime and it's just the legislature has to pass it and, and the governor has to sign it. I think Tennessee's is the same way. Okay, so, where was I going with all that? Let's go, let's go down the list of those that have done it. So Texas did it last summer. supposed to be a five plus Republican seats. Now that doesn't always hold. Like you could draw a district that's 55% Republican. It doesn't mean a Republican is going to win. There are extenuating circumstances. You can end up with a really bad candidate, you can end up with somebody with a scandal and then a Democrat sneaks in and vice versa. Much more likely to have a scandal with a Democrat. but anyway, the bottom line is, state, so, so I think there'll be five seats picked up, five Republican seats picked up in in, in Texas. Okay, then Missouri looks like they did it in September of last Year expected to have one Republican pickup. Then, then you've got North Carolina expected to be one Republican seat picked up Ohio did it in October as well. Expected to be two Republican seats picked up. California in November, a voter approved ballot measure. I thought they just now did theirs. I guess that was in November. plus five Democrat seats. So if you're keeping count, that would be 3, 4, 9, minus the 5. So a, a 4 plus 4 net, to Republicans At that point. Okay, then Utah expected to have one. A, plus one for Democrats. How in the world is that happening in Utah? Let's go people, what's happening there? but anyway, so that would get you down to a plus three for Republicans. Okay, then Virginia did their unconstitutional redistricting with plus four Democrats. So that would be a net of one for the Democrats. And now Florida with a plus four for Republicans. Is it feel like you're playing ping pong here folks. so that would be if plus four in Florida would be a net nationwide of plus three Republicans. Okay, so now this Tennessee one. I don't know what the net on the Tennessee redistricting is. See if I can find that and that'll tell us kind of. And this is all, of course, if every seat drawn in that way actually netted that out, I don't know how many Democrats there were in Tennessee, for in Congress from Tennessee. But if this map held according to the way that's apparently drawn, it'd be 9, 0. I think it's probably 2. I think it's probably another 2. I'll check on that during the break, which we're about to do. And so who knows who's left? Indiana, of course, wimped out. There's your wimpy Republicans, Indiana. And part of the reason I think you're going to see some dominoes fall here is because a couple of nights ago most of those who fought, Trump asking for Indiana to do just a fair redistricting map, and they refused, have been defeated. So they lost in their primary on Tuesday. now remember what I mentioned on Tuesday is that all of this is, I don't want to say complicated. There's just another layer to this. It's actually going to be less complicated to do redistricting, but because of the Supreme Court decision saying you can't be a racist when you do redistricting so you can't draw your map guaranteeing that a white person gets elected or a black person or a brown person or a red person or a yellow person. Or, you know, red, white, yellow, black or brown, cannot be factored in. And that's the way it always should have been. And we've been screaming for that. And so praise the Lord. Thank you, Lord, for this huge victory At the Supreme Court. So now that race cannot be factor, every state should redraw their lines At this point and not use race. So just, just draw your lines based on population, and if you do it based on party, that's legal. That's, you know, it's partisan, but it's absolutely legal. Indiana, I don't know if they can get another bite At the apple or not. I don't think so. I think, I think theirs is going to have to wait. just from what, what I've been reading, I think Virginia's will get thrown out because they did violate the Virginia Constitution. That'll be up to the Virginia Supreme Court, not the US Supreme Court. But if theirs gets thrown out, you know, now you're probably looking net seven or eight Republicans nationwide, and considering that the majority in Congress is, you know, two or three votes, then any one of these states could swing this thing. So I think At this point, Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, are all still looking At it. NewSong Jersey, South Carolina. So most of those are, of course, Republican states. NewSong Jersey being the exception there. We'll, we'll talk about it more. We'd love to get your input. 888-589-8840 Is the phone number 888-589-8840? You are listening to At the Core with Waka Wa.

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Rick Green discusses redistricting  

Welcome back to At the Core with Walker Wildmon and Rick Green, I'm Rick Green, America's Constitution Coach. We are, we are talking redistricting. I know I'm burning some of you out. You're like, okay, Rick, you've talked about this, and, you talked about it all day Tuesday practically, and here we go again. But, man, this is so huge. And I'll be honest, it's interesting to me because, I mean, I enjoy politics and I definitely enjoy structure of politics. In other words, there's a line in the Declaration of Independence where Jefferson says that when any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, that is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and institute new governments, laying its foundation on such principles. And then this line, and organizing its powers in such forms as shall seem to them the most likely to affect their safety and happiness. So the organizing of the powers, is always intriguing to me because it is, it is debatable how to do that. It's not, it's not as much of a principal debate, you know, like abortion or, or marriage or, even taxes and, and, and, and property rights and that kind of thing. It's more of a, it's more of a technicality in a way. But it is a, it is an equity question because how you organize those powers like that was the big debate At the Constitutional Convention was big state, small state, right. What do you, what's the, what's the big compromise that will save the day? And of course, it turned out to be okay. You get your Senate represented. You know, the states get representation in the Senate with just two each, and everybody gets the same representation. And then in the House, it's the, it's. The people get representation directly based on population. And so, you know, that's the kind of thing I'm talking about when I say organizing its powers and the technicalities of, of, of how you're going to do the, the structure. Well, you know, same debate with the 17th Amendment that those two senators from the states were supposed to be chosen by the legislature so that the state is actually getting representation in Washington, D.C. and then we, like, you know, total morons changed that in 1913 with the 17th amendment. And now your US senators are elected by the, directly by the people. And so now you don't have anybody in Washington that's actually looking out for the good of the, of the state itself. They're all just looking out for how they're going to get reelected. And that because of that, they are like a, you know, another House of Representatives. Anyway, that's, that's a different topic.

How do you decide who's going to represent your state in the House

But speaking of the House of Representatives, so how you structure that, how do you decide who's going to represent your state in the House? How do you decide, you know, where to draw the lines for your redistricting? how do you even decide how those, how those congressmen are going to be elected? Like, in other words, you, you could, you could do a constitutional amendment and say even your House districts are going to be represented or chosen by, you know, the county judges of the counties that are represented in those districts. So all of these ideas and ways of doing elections and representation, I'm intrigued by. We are not, let's be very clear. Part of the reason I'm intrigued by this is we are not a democracy. If we were a democracy, then it would be straight up, you know, popular vote for every issue. Not just every representative, but every issue. We would literally go online right now with the technology we have. You could put every vote that's happening in Congress, you could put it to a vote of the people and everybody vote online on every issue. I think that'd be a chaotic disaster. It'd be mob rule on every issue. we would sweet. Would have whiplash from swinging back and forth on every issue in insanity. It'd be crazy. A republic allows you to hire people to go represent you and spend the time researching each of those issues, do the homework and the hard work to really think through what's this actually going to do. Not just get in a frenzy and have a mob suddenly pass something. That's French Revolution kind of chaos right there. You don't want that in a republic, and more importantly, a constitutional republic, you have those representatives that you've hired to go do the hard work, to research, to do those things, and you actually limit their decision making. Even so, you only, you say you can only deal with the issues that the Constitution gives you the authority to deal with. So that is honestly worked out to be the best organizing of those powers, those forms, the way that you're going to run your government that we've ever seen. Now, Madison was right when he said this is the worst form of government other than every other one. So let's always remember that, right? It is flawed, but it's still better than every other government out there. Certainly better than a pure democracy, certainly better than a parliamentary system like what England has and most of the, you know, western, free countries. But ours works. But the way that it works and the way that we kind of tweak how that representation is chosen is very intriguing to me. It's also, you know, it's the way we choose the president, the electoral college, and that form of, that organizing of that power is very intriguing. And we got a good national lesson in 2020 of how electors are chosen and when does the legislature get to change how electors are chosen and those types of questions. So all legitimate conversations of questions and legitimate process. I don't think we should, out of hand say that a legislature is wrong for doing redistricting in a partisan way. I certainly don't think we should say that a legislature is wrong in doing redistricting in the middle of a decade. Because some people out there are saying right now, oh, they should only do redistricting once every 10 years. That's what the Constitution calls for. No, the constitution says within 10 years. Doesn't say you only do it once. And actually, I believe you could definitely make a strong argument. The founders would have supported doing redistricting more often if the population is changing more often, which now our society is more mobile. And so you have millions of people that have moved from one state to another or from one district to another since the last redistricting or even the census of 2020. So I, I mean, we have the technology, we have the ability. It, makes sense to me that you would actually even do the census maybe every five years instead of every. Every 10 years. You should absolutely order the census to be redone. If there was clear violations of the Constitution in the previous census, which there was, we counted illegal aliens not only in the census of actually counting people, but in the apportionment, the application of the census to which states get five seats versus 10 seats, one seat. So anyway, there's a lot of work that needs to be redone on the census. What they're. What you're seeing right now is not redoing the census. You're seeing a redoing of the apportionment. I'm sorry, I've got the wrong terminology there. Apportionment is the census portion of which states get how many seats. Redistricting is within that state. How do you divvy up those seats? So we're not changing how many seats Virginia gets. They still get 11 seats. They, they're just trying to change where those seats are divvied up around the state. Tennessee is not changing the fact that they get nine seats. That was determined by apportionment after the census. What Tennessee is saying is we're going to go from eight Republican districts in one Democrat district to nine Republican districts and zero Democrat districts. Now you might say, oh, well, that's definitely not fair because surely they have Democrats in Tennessee. Well, let's look At the rest of the country. Let's, see, we got 12 states where it's all Republicans. Alaska's got one Republican. Arkansas's got four Republicans, no Democrats. Meaning representing them in Congress. Idaho has two Republicans, no Democrats. Iowa, four Republicans, no Democrats. Montana, two Republicans, no Democrats. Nebraska, three Republicans, no Democrats. North Dakota, one Republican, no Democrat. By the way, Nebraska does have a Democrat. It's the dude that, that just sold us out on several issues. But he's got a Republican on his name. Bacon. forget his name. Don Bacon. That's his name. Yeah. Total sellout. anyway. Oklahoma, five Republicans, no Democrats. South Dakota, one Republican, no Democrats. Utah, four Republicans, no Democrats. I guess what they're considering is, is, creating a Democrat leaning seat. West Virginia, two Republicans, no Democrats. Wyoming, one Republican, no Democrats. Now, obviously these are small states, and so any small state, a lot of those were small states. Any small state that's only got one or two representatives is most likely going to be all of one or the other. So here's the Democrat states. Connecticut, five Democrats, no Republicans. Delaware, one Democrat, no Republicans. Hawaii, two Democrats, no Republicans.

There are 19 states with all of one party represented in Congress

Massachusetts, nine Democrats, no Republicans. And that's like a 40% Republican state. Right? I mean, Scott Brown won that state as a U.S. senator. NewSong Hampshire, two Democrats, no Republicans. NewSong Mexico, three Democrats. Remember, our caller Tuesday was talking about, NewSong Mexico having only three Democrats, no Republicans. Rhode island, two Democrats, no Republicans. So clearly it's, it's common. I mean, that's 20. No, that's 19 states with all of one party represented in Congress. Now, Tennessee potentially could be added to that list. yeah. So, you know, and that may end up. I'm not sure I'm against that being the trend. You know, if you think about federalism and you think about the design of the founders, that maybe that's the direction this whole thing needs to go. Now, I don't know what those numbers would turn out to be in. Congressman, what would happen if California had all 55 of their congressional districts, or 53, I guess, being Democrat, what would happen if, if Texas had all 38 become Republican? What, what if that happened in, in all the states? That'd be really interesting to look At If, if, if you ended up with, you know, all, all of the, the, all the states being, you know, truly red or blue in their representation in Congress. What would that look like? I don't know. I don't know. But hey, I'm, I'm very intrigued to see how this whole thing plays out. And again, I'm gonna say it again. As long as you're following the law, you can be as partisan as you want. Now you might pay a price for that. Like, I think in Virginia, I think there'll probably be some heavy duty prices paid politically. I think, you know, very possible because Virginia is a state that tends to swing back and forth that, that, the Democrats pay a heavy political price for, you know, slamming this thing through and actually violating the Constitution in the way that they did it. Now, people have short memories and they don't understand this issue. Part of the reason I'm spending so much time on it is that a lot of people that, you know, it's too, it's too technical, it's too, too complicated. David Barton taught me a long time ago that if you want to win and you want to impact the culture, you can't just be passionate about the policy. You have to be passionate about the process. You have to care about this whole thing about organizing its powers in such forms. You have to care about how the process works, how committee structure works. I mean, that's why we created Patriot Academy. I'd only been with David for. Oh, I think I had been, I was just starting, actually, with David, starting to go out and do some speaking for wall builders. And I was learning a lot for David. I mean, I was in my 20s. I was in my late 20s At the time. I was a young legislator in Texas, and so I'm learning the process in the Texas legislature. And when we started Patriot Academy, David was the one that really kind of convinced me and impressed upon me, you need to spend a lot of time on process, not just policy. And so we ended up kind of doing three major tracks. To have a good leader in the movement, they needed to have the principles down so they. The actual values of what you're. What policies you're going to be for the right philosophy. But then they had to be really good At process. Why legislators across the country hire Patriot Academy graduates to come run their legislative offices because they're so good At the process. And then third were the skills, the actual personal skills. How do you work a room? How do you get in front of a room and speak well? And how do you win people over? How do you use rhetoric in a positive way? And that has paid off. We've created some really good leaders and train them and sharpen them to be able to go be very effective in what they're doing. but I think our side is still woefully lacking in process. We glaze over, man. Our eyes glaze over too much on our side, because it's easier to get passionate about the issue or the policy than it is the process. But I'm telling you, people that know the process well and work the process well, when part of the reason we've had them run circles around us in. In, you know, legislatures, and in campaigns and in just. Even the rhetoric out there, is because we don't pay attention to the process and how to. How to win it and then how to explain it. Maybe I'm not doing a very good job of explaining. I'm trying to. I'm trying to make it easier for us to understand what's happening right now in these states so that we don't. What you don't want to do is you don't want to let the left claim that, oh, they're. They're forcing, you know, Democrats out of the process. They're. They're. This is, you know, Jim Crow 2.0. Remember when they. When they did that? all lies. Absolutely. You know, think about the Voting. The whole thing about the SAVE act, right now, they're claiming the rhetoric has been that Republicans are doing Jim Crow 2.0. They're not letting Democrats vote, they're not letting poor people vote, they're not letting whatever category vote, when in truth, we're saying everybody that's legal to vote. We want you to be able to vote. We just want to protect your vote. We want to make sure your vote actually counts and is not canceled out by someone that wasn't supposed to vote. But. But while we see that the other side is able to really confuse that issue and make it look like you're literally preventing people from participating in the process, which is the opposite of what's happening.

Rick Green: Who you vote for in state legislature and in Congress matters hugely

Same thing with redistricting. So you got the voting issue. Who can actually go in and vote, and then with the redistricting issue, who are they voting for? Where are the lines drawn for who they're actually going to have representing them in the state legislature and in. And in Congress? So we've got to get better At it. I've got to get better At articulating it, because clearly I've used two segments to try to describe this, but At the end of the day, it's who's going to represent you in the state legislature and in Congress, and that's, of course, going to determine what the policies are that they get passed out of that Congress. the reason President Trump is having such a hard time right now getting his agenda through Congress is because the votes are so close. And if all of this stuff was done fairly and by the book, if you took illegal aliens out of the, out of the census, and then that, results, in more apportionment to blue areas. If you took that out, if you actually drew the lines in a fair way, you'd have about, as I said Tuesday, 40 more Republicans in Congress right now. Instead of, you know, this handful of a majority, you'd have dozens that you could lose on a vote. So your squishies, your wimps, your people that are selling out to lobby, and everybody else, they matter less because you've got some cushion. You got 45 votes to potentially, negotiate with in order to get some good stuff passed. So that's why all this matters so much. If you want Trump to keep winning, if you, if you want America to be restored, if you want the Constitution to be followed, then you need to endure the conversation and be willing to listen and learn about redistricting and make the phone calls to the right people to Encourage them to do the right thing. And frankly, you need to not be swayed by the campaign ads that are coming your way in the next few months in the midterms that are going to say so and so was doing this and so and so doing that. You need to know what actually happened with redistricting so you can support the right people and, for reelection in these, in these midterms. Okay, we're going to take a quick break. Phone numbers, 8885-8988-4088-8589-8840. Try to get some other headlines in our final segment of the day. You're listening to F. Core with Walker Wildmon. Rick. This is At the Core on American Family Radio with your host, Rick Greene

Rick Green: We need to spend more time explaining how gerrymandering works

Welcome back to The Core with Walker Wildmon and Rick Greene I'm Rick Green, America's Constitution coach. Realizing fully that this subject needs more time. We need to spend more time on this because the more of us that understand how this thing works, the more likely we can get to a good result and not be fooled by the folks that are going to run all kinds of ads saying certain things are happening. So let me spend just a couple of more minutes explaining how this works, and then we'll go to the phones. We got people waiting. Eight, 885-89-8840. Bobby and I were talking off air during the break about this, and I guess one way to think about this, think about it. If you have a school and you've got 1,000 students and you've got 10 classrooms, you got to decide which students are going to go to which classroom. And then you literally draw the lines of which students go where. It's the same way here. So let's say your state has, in, fact, the example Bobby and I were talking about off air. Tennessee's got nine congressional districts right now. Well, let's say a million new people move to Tennessee, and now they should get an extra seat in Congress. Now somebody else is going to have to lose a seat because we only have 435 seats in Congress. That's what apportionment is. So after the census, you go, okay, we got this many people in the country. Divide that by 435. And every congressional district is roughly, let's just freeze the math. Say a million people. Even though it's a little less than that, it's like 900,000. But let's just say, every congressional district is going to have a million people because you got 435 seats in Congress and a million people for each. That would ASSUME we have 435 million people in America. We don't. We got, like, 390. But again, easy math. If a million people moved to Tennessee between the last census and this census, then when we now, reapportion, meaning, now we've got to decide which states get how many seats. Tennessee would get a new seat. So they've got nine seats now. Million new people move in. Let's just say for easy again, a million people leave California and move to Tennessee. And about that many did. So a million people leave California, go to Tennessee. Well, now Tennessee will go from nine members of Congress to 10 members of Congress. And California. California should go from 55 members of Congress to 54 members of Congress. And now Tennessee has to say, okay, well, now we've got 10 seats instead of nine. So now we have to redistrict, meaning redraw the lines for those nine districts to now become 10 districts. And that means, you know, Nashville. If most of those people moved into Nashville, then that area is probably going to get that new district, or it's going to be a gerrymandered district that has little fingers drawn. You know, you're literally drawing in a neighborhood. It's all got to be connected. You can't. You can't, like, take one part of Chattanooga and connect it to Memphis. So it does have to be contiguous. But sometimes it'll be a long line, you know, drawn from, you know, Nashville, which is actually what Virginia did. They took, northern Virginia and had parts of northern Virginia connected all the way to the southern part of the state. That's legal. You can do that. That's the gerrymandering thing. Named after Elbridge Gerry, signer of the Declaration of Independence, because when he was governor of Massachusetts, he signed off on a district that looked like a salamander in order to get a particular party represented. And so we call it gerrymandering. So this. It's always been this way since the country's been around. but let me back up and try to keep this in order of how this works. Okay? So you have your census. You figure out a million people move from California to Tennessee. So Now Tennessee gets 10 districts instead of nine. So now Tennessee, internally, that's apportionment. Apportionment is which states get how many districts. Now, within the state of Tennessee, they have to decide redistricting. They got to decide where those districts are going to where the lines are going to be. Now, I will say it would be easier if you had to keep counties together, right? Like that would. That would make it easier. But it doesn't work because what if a County has 2 million people or a million and a half? Let's say they got a million and a half. Now they got to have one. You could do one full district within the county, but now the other half million people got to be represented. So now they have to get put with another county that's next door. That's where it gets complicated. And I'm telling you, I've seen these guys. When the legislatures are drawing these maps, you'll have 15 different maps. Everybody submits a map and says, we should draw the lines this way and we should draw the lines that way. What they're basing it on is if, if your house, if people in your house have voted in the last three Republican primaries, you, your House is getting nailed as a Republican household. Maybe they only voted in one Republican primary, but still going to be leaning R. If they always vote in a Democrat primary, they're going to be a Democrat. So they're going to, they're going to be looking At that and saying, hey, that neighborhood over there is 90% democrat. Let's put them over here in this district. That's how this thing works. Okay, it's complicated once they're getting in there and doing it. But it really comes down to once you divvy up where all those districts go, how many of those districts are going to be, say, 55% Republican or 60% Republican or 55 or 60% Democrat. That's what. When I say, hey, Tennessee has eight Republicans right now and one Democrat represent them Congress, this new map is going to make it very likely that they have nine Republicans and no Democrats. The reason is because what they did was they took that, that Democrat district and they spread, they drew the lines to where they took a bunch of those Democrats and they spread them into Republican districts, but not so much so that that Republican district becomes a Democrat district. So they might have put a hundred thousand Democrats into a district that was already 800,000 Republicans and 200,000 Democrats. And maybe now it's going to be 700,000 Republicans and 300,000 Democrats. They're still going to elect a Republican out of there, but they diluted the Democrat vote. That's what the Democrats did in Virginia. That's what Democrat Democrats do in every Democrat state, and that's what Republicans do in every Republican state. At the end of the day, when all this redistricting is done, the real Question At the end of the day is in November, in the midterms, on election night, how many Democrats get elected to Congress and how many Republicans get elected to Congress? And that's not guaranteed based on these districts. It just has a big, big impact. And so that's why all of this fighting is happening. Because At the end of the day, whoever has the majority in the House of representatives in Washington D.C. is going to control the purse. They're going to control all that money, they're going to control whether or not Donald Trump gets impeached five more times in the last two years of his presidency.

Who controls the House of Representatives is ultimately decided by who has majority

They're going to control whoever has the majority in the House of Representatives is going to determine what the country looks like for the next few years. If you've been upset about the stories of Somali daycares, if you've been upset about the stories where people are saying, wow, I was trying to figure out how these, these military age men are just sitting around drinking coffee and all day and, and getting, and driving Maseratis. it's because they're taking your money and giving it to these people. And the fraud is off the charts. That's because of Democrat control in Washington D.C. they set that up to basically fund their campaigns. Because these very people that they're funneling your money to, your tax dollars are then turned around and giving to their, to their campaigns. Okay, if that bothers you, At the end of the day, that is ultimately decided by who controls the House of Representatives. Now you might say, Rick, Republicans have had control for the last 15 months and they still haven't shut that stuff down. They didn't pass all the Doge stuff that Elon Musk recommended that he quickly figured out. I'm just as mad about that as you. But I'm telling you, the reason they didn't pass that is because they only have a two or three vote majority. It's barely a Republican Congress, like so close that it's literally, what is it now? 220 to 215, something like that. It's very, very, very close. And so you can't make big changes with that very, very small majority or it's incredibly hard. I actually think Speaker Johnson and I've criticized him right here on this program when he did things that I, you know, didn't do things that I thought should be done, that we had the, had the votes, which the truth is he didn't have the votes. The fact that he's been able to get some of the things done that he's gotten done has been absolutely miraculous. With only a handful of vote majority. It's so easy to lose when you're barely have the majority. Well, all of this redistricting, all of these fights all over the country is about that number. It's all about who's going to get to 218, who's going to have a majority in Congress. And will the Republicans lose that majority by just a handful of votes? Or is it even possible they could pick up 8, 10, 15, 20 seats and have a bigger majority and therefore be able to pass more of the MAGA agenda? That's what this is all about. And At the end of the day, it affects you and it affects me in so many different ways. Not just the Somali daycares and you know, the fraud and the corruption and all those kind of things. It also comes back to the policy issues that most of our side are really interested in, like abortion and marriage and taxes and property rights and all those things.

Okay, I have talked way too long and we got a ton of phone calls

Okay, I have talked way too long and we got a ton of people on the phone, so we got to, we gotta take some phone calls. Let's go to Philip in, Texas. Philip, you're up first, man. Go ahead. I'm sorry I made you wait so long. Okay. Philip, you there? All right. I don't know. Oh no, I got you, Go ahead.

>> Rick Green: I think Philip is cutting out on us.

Jerry in Texas agrees with Richard about understanding procedure before voting on legislation

So let's go over to Jerry in Texas. Jerry, go ahead man. You're up next.

>> Jerry: Yes, sir. Just wanted to say I agree with the statement you'd made before the last break, about not just being invested in the policy itself, but also understanding the procedure.

>> Rick Green: Yeah.

>> Jerry: I would say to everybody that can is listening to this program, and I know that you are associated with another group, but I read this book recently called Original Intent and it totally changed my focus on actually understanding where the process and procedures have actually changed throughout our history. So if you're listening and you haven't read Original Intent by David Barton, it's a great book that hints on this, but within that book it said that there are four things and I can't remember them off the top of my head, but I haven't marked and referenced that we as citizens need to think about a bill before we go and say let's vote on this. I'm sorry, I can't remember the four things within the book. But it's a great read. Continue. What doing I impress upon my kids every day as we listen. I got one that listens to wall builders like, religiously. and so just keep doing what you do, and we appreciate it.

>> Rick Green: Thank you, man. Thank you so much. Yes, original intent is. And that's. That's David Barton. That's the guy I was talking about earlier that. That impressed upon me how important procedure is and. And being. And being willing to, take the time to study those things. and original intent is. I mean, that is what ultimately led to us getting the Kennedy case. David Barton actually showing the history of the phrase separation of church and state, where it came from. In fact, the book was originally called the Myth of Separation when he first wrote it in, 87 or 88, and then later added to it. And the back quarter of the book is the footnotes, the documentation. So he. He absolutely brings the receipts in that book. Highly recommended to everyone out there. So, yeah, very, very, very good call. And definitely, folks, learn the procedure, study these things. Richard in Arkansas. Go for it.

>> Richard: Yes, thank you for taking my call. I'm from Tennessee, which sparked my interest with all the redistricting involved, currently driving through Arkansas. So if my cell phone cuts out, I apologize. Meanwhile, I thought I'd, bring to the forefront the difference and contrast between the two parties and how they're structured. For instance, Jim Crow 1.0 goes back to the Democratic Party. We all pretty much know that, because they were trying to prevent blacks from getting the votes by any means possible. Her grips, Harks, bunker truck. And then, President Lincoln is the one who emancipated them. And Democrats were so incensed by what he had done that they assassinated him, At the theater. Meanwhile, I like to bring this forward into the present generations. Like, I grew up in the 60s. As a child, my parents always told me that Democrats were crooks. And, you know, as a child, I really didn't have any reason to contest that. And as I grew up into my early adult years, I thought, well, why are they crooks? You know, why. Why just take that At face value. And, so anyway, when Obama was first up for Richard, I hate to.

>> Rick Green: I hate to cut you off, man, but I'm down to 120 seconds and the program's over. so.

Party will definitely be a factor in redistricting

So let me. Let me. Let me comment on your first point, because, by the way, where are you? Where are you? In Arkansas. your phone cut out. I couldn't. I couldn't understand you. well, yeah, I mean, Richard's 100% right. On the. On the history of the Democrats, I said this Tuesday, they've always been the racist party they're the ones that did the Jim Crow laws. They're the ones that fought for slavery. You know, everything he said is right. And the birth of the Republican Party in 1856 was about civil rights. It was literally. I mean, I think it was seven of the, of the nine planks of the Republican platform were to get rid of slavery and have equal rights for everybody. In 1860, same thing. It was like 10 of the 12, planks or nine of the 11, whatever it was. My point is he's absolutely right. And it's always been that way. And, unfortunately, they're still the party of racism. I mean, that's just, it's how their, worldview works. It's what drives their politics and their system. They love to divide. And what we should be for is saying neither Jew nor Greek, neither rich nor poor, everybody treated the same under the law. And when you redistrict and you draw your lines, you don't factor in race. It's not, it should not be an issue. And that's what the Supreme Court just said. so that's gonna affect, I think you are gonna see a lot more states that do redistricting either this year or in the next, two years and finally get race out of it. Party will definitely be a factor. That's, that's because you're drawing the lines for politics. So party's going to be a factor. And, we just got to make sure that Republican states, red states that, that they do this as aggressively as the Democrats do. And, you know, it is what it is. It's just being men of Issachar, understanding the times and knowing what to do, not being these, these wimpy head in the sand, you know, doing high school debate, arguing over Robert's Rules of Order, but actually getting in the trenches and doing the things that are legal and constitutional. Tough to do, but you gotta do it. You gotta fight like you wanna win. As, one guy said recently, fight, fight, fight. Let's go, folks. Let's get in the fight. Thanks for listening. You've been listening to At the Core with Walker Wildmon and Rick Greene

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