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 : we know that suffering produces perseverance, perseverance, character, and character. This is at the core on American Family Radio. I'm just getting back from an amazing, amazing road trip. I don't know, I don't even know how to describe this for y' all so that you can enjoy a little bit of it as well. We took all of our scholars, if you're familiar with Patriot Academy, if you're a regular listener to at the Core, then, you know, we have what we call the Patriot Institute. So we've been doing our leadership congresses for 25 years. That's where we just have a week with the students in a state capitol somewhere in the country. We get, you know, get them together. They do a legislative simulation. We teach some biblical worldview apologetics, policy. They learn more in that one week about how the process works than 99.9% of people ever experience. But I always thought, man, one week's not enough. We need more time with them and we need to be able to go deeper and just experience life with them so that we can sow into them in those tough times and good times and everything. Anyway, so we launched the Institute a couple years ago. Last year we had 12 institute scholars. This year we have 27. And we just got back from their end of year trip. Originally it was going to be Israel. We were planning to take all of them to Israel, had the whole thing sponsored, ready to go, and. And then of course, the Iran thing happened. So we were, we were scrambling, man. We were going, okay, what do we, what do we do that could possibly compare to these, you know, 17 to 25 year olds getting to go to Israel for their, their end of year trip. So we put together 10 days on the road and they got to see so much. We spent five days in Washington D.C. where they saw the Bible Museum, which of course is absolutely incredible, the Holocaust Museum, which was a wake up call for those who had any doubts about those things and any doubts about the, ends to which the evils of, anti Semitism can go. And so they got to see that. We went to Arlington National Cemetery, which is one of my favorite spots in Washington D.C. because especially for young people, it just is overwhelming to realize how many people have sacrificed for our freedom and for these young People to realize the generations that came before them. And they got to see the changing of the guard at the Tomb of the Unknown. crazy thing, we had, one of our good friends, that's a Constitution coach from Pennsylvania that was actually there at Arlington national laying a wreath. and our students were able to come and watch that. And then one of our students whose father was killed the military years ago and is buried at Arlington national, got to, got to go and be there, and take the students, to see that as well. So anyway, that was really, really cool. And then we got to, they ended up doing, the White House and just all kinds of other cool stuff. But sort of the capstone of that part of the trip, we went to, the Capitol, the U.S. capitol for an evening tour. Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention, on the way to Washington D.C. they stopped off in West Virginia, at the Capitol in West Virginia where one of our Patriot Academy grads serves in the legislature there. He's actually got the number one conservative voting record for the last three sessions there, which I'm very, very proud to say is a result of the things that we taught him. No, he's a great patriot as it is. but he came to us when he was 16 and just did so well, learned the process so well, Called me when he was 20 and said he was going to run for the legislature in West Virginia. And I normally tell these students when they say they're going to run at a young age, I'm like, no, no, no, you need to go, you know, create some jobs, you need to have a family, you need to pay property taxes, you need to know what it's like on the receiving end of all the things government does before you actually go serve. This kid was different. He just always had that, you know, you feel like he's 40, not, not 18, or 19. Well, anyway, at 20 he got elected and so he's been in, in for several years. And so our Patriot Academy Institute scholars got to do a tour of the West Virginia Capitol and spend time with him and a Patriot Academy grad serving in the legislature there. And I remembered to bring that up because then five days later they're at the US Capitol and we got to do an after hours tour with a Patriot Academy grad who is serving in Congress right now, Juan Ciscomani of Arizona. And Juan was actually the one. You might remember me if you're a longtime listener. two years ago actually. I'm sorry, last year, after the election, he was number 218. So he was the one that got us to a majority in Congress. There was a lot of races not called for several weeks, and his was one of them. And when they finally called his, then, then he was number 218. Anyway, it was great to see Juan doing a phenomenal job in Congress. Just. Just a true statesman, super proud of him. And the students got to. What we got to do was we went in the rotunda. I did a whole, you know, history of the United States right there in that room with those eight paintings and statues. And they got to sing Amazing Grace in the rotunda. It was gorgeous. we went into the old House chamber, which is now statuary. Hal got to learn all the stories there. Jon Quincy Adams, Daniel Webster, Lew Wallace. Just so many cool stories right there in that room. We got to go into the old House chamber, I mean, old Senate chamber, which also was the old Supreme Court chamber. So it was first. It was the Senate chamber first. Ten years they were in the Capitol there. And then the Senate moved up into what is now the old Senate chamber. that they were in for. Let's see, it would have been 10 to, 1800 to 1810. It was from 1810 to about 1850 that they were in that room. And then the Senate moved into what is now the current Senate chamber. They've been there since 1859. anyway, so that very downstairs, basement, room that was the Senate for 10 years. 1800, 1810, roughly. I think it was 1808 or whatever. and then it was the, Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court met there, up until 1935, when they finally, you know, unfortunately, I think we never should have built them their own building. I think they. This idea of three equal branches is completely unconstitutional and not what the founders intended. They're the weakest of the three branches. Go read Federalist 78. Even Alexander Hamilton explains it that way. at any rate, they got to go into those old rooms. Man, I was able to tell the stories right there in the old Supreme Court chamber. The Amistad case. If you ever seen that movie Amistad with Anthony Hopkins, that case was argued right there in that room. Daniel Webster argued some incredible cases in there. Just a lot of amazing, amazing history. So for our students to get to do that, man, it was special, but that was not the best part of the trip. So we leave D.C. the next day, and we go to Philly. Well, first we go to Lancaster, and we go see the Sight and Sound production of Joshua. Now, if you're not familiar with sight and sound. You ever get a chance to go to Branson or Lancaster, you've got to go to one of their shows. They are over the top. Amazing. I mean, these people know how to do it right. Phenomenal. Massive production. I mean, live animals on stage and run going up the aisles. I mean, it just incredible. And they, you know, they've done David and Esther and Daniel and all these other cool stories. Right now they're playing, in Lancaster, Joshua, which for me was incredible. My favorite Bible verse, the one I always sign when people ask me to sign a book or their Bible or whatever. Joshua 1:9. Have not commanded you. Be strong and of a good courage. Be not afraid either. Be thou dismayed, for the Lord thy God is with you. Whithersoever thou goest. So getting to see this, this musical was very cool for me, but also for our graduates. And then, then we drive to Philly and we get Independence hall to ourselves. So we get an after hours. We were filming, for some of our new courses coming up, and the students got to actually sign the Declaration of Independence in the room where the founding fathers signed it 250 years ago. Let that sink in, folks. In the year of the 250th, our Patriot Academy scholars got to finish off their year where they've been with us at the campus for a year and they've been learning all about the Declaration. I mean, that's what I teach them. Pretty much every chance I get to talk to them. They've been learning apologetics and the Biblical foundation of America and how the Bible produces good citizens and all of these things. And then they got to cap it all off in the room in Independence hall, signing the Declaration of Independence. Incredibly cool. That's part of why we're building Independence hall at the Patriot Academy campus in Constitution City, Texas. Because I want people to be able to have that experience. Even though it'll be a replica, you'll feel like you've stepped back in time and, get to do the same thing at our campus, for years to come. But, anyway, so they got to do Independence Hall. Signed the Declaration right next door if you've ever been there. And maybe some of our listeners very familiar with this if you're especially live in the area. But Independence park is made up of Independence Hall, Congress hall, and the Liberty Bell display. And Congress, Hall is just right next door to Independence Hall. Small, small room like, like the assembly room in Independence Hall. Excuse me. And, it's where Congress met before they moved into the new U.S. capitol. And that would have been, you know, roughly 1791 to right before they moved into those rooms that I was talking about earlier in 1800. And so that room, Congress hall, is set up like it was whenever they were there. And we got to basically conduct a Congress in that room where the founding fathers did it for those first 10 years. I mean, I'm talking Frederick Augustus Muhlenberg as Speaker of the House. He's a pastor out of NewSong York, Jon Peter Gabriel Muhlenberg, his brother, pastor out of Virginia, also in that first Congress. And these kids got to sit there and debate bills in that very room. It was absolutely amazing. Then, of course, we went over to Liberty Bell and, just had a great time. And on the way home. Let's see, that was. Yeah, that was Thursday. We did, the next day, we actually went to the Valley Forge Battlefield. We went to, Freedoms foundation in Valley Forge, another great organization. They've been doing incredible work since 19, 52, I believe it was, when Eisenhower helped to found that. And they're a lot like Patriot Academy from the standpoint of the purpose is to show Americans, to teach Americans good civics and to understand why the American value system is the best, or as James Madison said, it's the worst form of government other than every other one. So, in other words, it's the best one out there, even though it's flawed. But Freedoms foundation does a great job. They've got some incredible statues and monuments and whatnot. And I wanted the kids to see the big bronze monument of George Washington kneeling in prayer with his sword by his side, but kneeling in prayer there at Valley Forge. and then they also had this really cool bill of responsibilities monument. We actually did an episode on this in Chasing American Legends. If you haven't seen that, go to patriotacademy.com go to the store there, and, get Chasing American Legends. Anyway, all of that, and then on the way home, we went to the Ark. If you have never been to the Ark Encounter in Kentucky, right outside of Cincinnati. it's amazing. Ken Ham did a phenomenal job with this. I mean, just first class all the way, and the students had an amazing time there. and then we, then we got home last night. So anyway, I wanted to share that with you, our listeners, because so many of you support what we're doing at Patriot Academy. And anytime you support American Family association, you're helping Patriot Academy as well. it just. It's a great way to finish the year. And I just want you to know, man, there's help on the way. These kids are so well grounded. They're so good. I just, I cannot believe we did this. 10 day. How many miles? I think we did 3,000 miles or something crazy. All these places, hardly any sleep. Most of them got sick on the trip because they were just wearing out their immune system. And not a single complaint. Just joyful. met every challenge head on, served each other, prayed for each other. It was incredible. And I want you to know help is on the way. These are the caliber of leaders that we are raising up at Patriot Academy and at the Patriot Institute. And, by the way, applications are going to be opening soon for the fall. Patriot Institute for next year. We had 27 this year. maybe we'll do the same. Maybe we'll double. Who knows? Maybe we'll triple this year. We've got scholarships available. We've got, just incredible opportunities for people. So if that sounds intriguing to you, go to patriotacademy.com if you've got a young person in your life that you think at 17, maybe they want to do their senior year with us. They can finish out their high school, whatever they've got left, Especially if they were homeschooling, it's much easier. But, they can finish that out with us in the final year, they can, double up and do the curriculum that we have going as well. We had three of the 27 this year. That's what they did. We called it a super senior year. They finished their senior year with us. But you might have somebody that's 18, 19, 20, 21 years old, maybe. We had several students that had already gotten a college degree and they still came into the year with us because of the specialized training that we do. And then a lot of them were just figuring out, what does God want me to do? You know, what's my gifting? What's my area that he has put into my heart? What are the desires he's put into my heart? We spent a lot of time working on that with them. And they're just, man, we're launching them, this Saturday when they graduate. So if that sounds interesting to you, you got young people in your life, you need to send them to patriotacademy.com and tell them to look up the institute. You'll see a lot of programs at our website. Most of our programs are short three days a week, but the institute is nine months here in Constitution City, Texas, at the Patriot Academy campus. And man, I'm telling you, you will not regret it. You will absolutely be thrilled. Maybe you want to even help scholarship from students. Maybe you don't have a kid you want to send, but you financially can help. Well, get on our website and donate a scholarship for a student from around the country to come. You send us those kiddos at that 17 to 25 age, I can guarantee you we'll send you back a leader. All right, we're going to take a quick break. Phone number is 8885-8988-4088-8589-8840. You're listening to at the core with Walker Wildmon and Rick Greene.

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Rick Green: This is at the Core on, American Family Radio with your host, Rick Greene. Welcome back to core with Walker Wildmon and Rick Greene. I'm Rick Greene, America's constitution coach. And glad to be home, but so thankful for the trip we just had with the Patriot Institute scholars. Now, there's a lot of headlines that I have not been able to get to over the last couple of weeks that I. I got at least comment on and would love to hear from you as well. 888-589-8840. That's 888-589-8840. Let's start with the Supreme Court decision on racial gerrymandering. Again, if You're a listener, A, longtime listener. You know, I have ranted about this for years. if you're a Patriot Academy follower, literally for decades, I've always been against racism. That should be simple, right? But when you, when you're using race to determine anything, that's racism. So if you're, if you're treating people different based on race, that is racism. It is wrong, it is anti biblical. It should be neither Jew nor Greek, should be neither rich or poor. Everybody treated the same under the law. And this whole Democrat racism that has permeated our culture for way too long. They have always been racist. They have always, they were the ones that fought for slavery, they are the ones that had white only primaries. They are the ones that wanted to prevent blacks from voting. Democrats, have always been racist. They just kind of change depending on what they think is going to be most politically advantageous to them. So whereas they were racist against blacks and giving a disadvantage to blacks for most of their history, they switched that in the last 50 years and decided, you know what, we'll figure out a way to, you know, use blacks in order to get political power, claiming that we're helping them, when in fact they ended up disempowering, black communities by government, taking over everything. And then it became anything against the white man, right? So now the racism from Democrats is anything that can be anti white that's gonna be, you know, in the, you know, Democrat playbook of what they're doing. So racial gerrymandering is where you use race to divide the people in order to guarantee that an elected representative, congress, legislature, whatever, is of a certain skin color. Now if that just rubs you wrong and sounds wrong to you, then you have an innate sense of justice that one should not be judged by the content, by the color of their skin. They should be judged by the content of their character. You should be elected to office based on what you're for, based on your character, based on the job you're going to do for your constituents. Not because your color happens to be, color of your skin happens to be red, white, yellow, black or brown. None of that. Not one of those categories should guarantee you a seat in Congress. Otherwise we're being racist. If we're choosing a representative or guaranteeing that a representative is white, wouldn't people be against that? If we draw the lines to make sure that a congressman or congresswoman has white skin, most people would say no, that's wrong. Why is it not also wrong to say we're going to guarantee that someone has black skin or brown skin or yellow skin or red skin or some combination of all of the above, which is what's kind of, honestly comical in today's culture where we don't have the same, you know, opposition to, you know, being married to someone just because their skin pigment is a little bit different than ours. You know, culturally. Culturally, I can understand people saying, well, you know, this culture, whether it's white, black, brown, whatever, is different than our particular culture. There are different cultures within the black community, within the brown community, within the. Within the, you know, Caucasian community, whatever. I can understand people saying, you know, wow, I don't know if I want to be, you know, in my case being I'm a country boy. All right? So I'm.

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Rick Green: I'm pretty, pretty redneck, I admit it. And so there's a lot of uppity white folks out there that would not want their daughter or son married into my family because, you know, we don't talk so good. I'm adding a little in here. Okay, but the point is, that kind of stuff I can kind of understand, because your lifestyles are different or whatever, but doing it based on the color of skin, that's absurd. It always has been absurd. It's always been wrong. And it's the same with voting. It's the same with representation and gerrymandering. You should not draw districts to guarantee that someone of a particular color of skin gets elected. I've always ranted about that. I will continue to rant about that. In fact, you might remember me being very upset with this Supreme Court for actually upholding racist racial gerrymandering just a couple of years ago with cases out of. I believe it was actually Louisiana, which is the one that they just actually went the other way on. and I think it was Alabama. I can't remember. Okay, so this decision, though, this 6, 3 decision, actually goes the opposite direction of the last 60 years of Supreme Court decisions and says, no, you can't use racial gerrymandering, that you don't draw maps based on color of skin. That is racist. It's what we, genuinely believe is unconstitutional because it's not equal protection under the law. You're separating people and treating them different under the law, dependent upon their color of skin. That's wrong. It's evil. It's unconstitutional as well. All right, so the Supreme Court's decision to do this is a big, big deal. It means, honestly, let's just give you Kind of a general idea. You've heard me talk about the illegal aliens being counted in the census, meaning that, even more important than being counted in the census itself is being counted and factored in, in the apportionment, which is to say when we do redistricting and we redraw the lines in each state to determine, you know, where the congressional districts are going to be within that state, that if you count non citizens, you're going to skew the numbers, your districts, you're going to have more districts from the big cities where they have sanctuary cities and where they encourage illegal aliens to come and where they give, give benefits, they put them up in hotels, they basically pay for them to come into their city so that they can be counted in the census so that they then get an extra member, representing them in Congress. Maybe the whole state gets an extra member because all of a sudden they have an extra million illegal aliens in that state. And if you count in the census now, that state gets an extra, representative in Congress. And states that followed the law and didn't have sanctuary cities and didn't give all these incentives for people to come illegally, they lose a representative in Congress. So that piece combined with the racial gerrymandering, combined with the just flat out cheating by Joe Biden to tweak the formula in the census, to skew which districts or which states got a certain number of representatives in Congress, you combine all of that and you're Talking about probably 40 Democrats in Congress right now that should be Republicans. In other words, when you just take those three things that should be just fair concept of justice, that the law should be the same for everybody, that fair representation in Congress, I think we actually fought a war over taxation with that representation, actually wasn't really about that. But that was one of the more popular slogans. I mean, certainly was something that, that, that motivated, you know, many of the founders, like Jon Adams and Jon, Hancock and others. But, you know, this whole idea that your representation in Congress is going to be stolen from you based on these three things that I just mentioned. Racial gerrymandering, illegal aliens counted in the apportionment that results from the census, and then whoever's got power at the time able to tweak the formula before they do the final representation, split up for the 435 members of Congress across the country. When you do those three things, you have at least 40 seats right now in Congress. That because the Democrats have done those three things, all three are immoral. Illegal, unconstitutional. They've got 40 seats in Congress. They should not have let that sink in for a second. The majority in Congress right now is three or four votes. So that's why you don't see any of the major issues of the Trump agenda being passed in Congress, is why he's having to do everything via executive orders. Because you only lose four Republican votes, roughly. I forget the exact numbers. Either three or four or two now, I don't know. Then, then, then you don't get it through. The Democrats are all sticking together to say no to everything that President Trump wants to do, even though a vast majority of Americans elected him to do those things. And think about how different that would be if you had 40 more Republicans right now than what you have. Be a whole different ballgame. So back to the news item. The Supreme Court issues this incredible decision, and how should people respond to this? Let me give you one example. Ron DeSantis in Florida, all these whiners out there, these wimpy, these total. I'm trying to think of nice words to use here. These, Let's just say the opposite of men of Issachar. A man of Issachar understands the times and knows what to do. In other words, you know what time it is. You understand the battle in front of you. You understand what the enemy is doing. And if the enemy is scratching and clawing and taking ground, if they, if they are, if they're playing hardball and defeating you and stealing, literally your country from you, then you've got to fight back and you've got to use every tool you have. Now, I'm not saying you have to cheat. I'm not saying you have to do anything underhanded. But you should use every power you have and push it to the limit. I mean, use all of it in order to save the country, in order to protect your children and grandchildren's Future. And Ron DeSantis fights like that. And so what did he do in response to the Supreme Court ruling? In two days, not two weeks, not two months, not two years, in two days, he produced a redistricting map in Florida that was constitutional, that followed the law, unlike Virginia's. Don't forget the Virginia redistricting of a couple of weeks ago. Absolutely. Violated all kinds of Virginia Constitution law, their own Virginia Constitution, and all kinds of Virginia laws regarding redistricting. Okay. They literally cheated to do this. And that's why I think theirs will ultimately be struck down, and they won't be able to do their 10 Democrats, one Republican redistricting. if they had done it legally, if they'd actually gone through the redistricting process according to their own state constitution, I'm not Even talking about U.S. constitution or federal law. According to their own state constitution. If they'd followed all those rules, okay, there's nothing you can do to stop them. Ten, ten Democrats, one Republican in a state that's 50, 50, probably not fair, certainly not, you know, equitable, but legal. You can do that. Just look at these northeastern states that have, that have done that for years and years and years. Ron DeSantis is taking Florida from, what is it, 20 and 8 to 24 and 4. So 4, 4 vote, increase for Republicans if these districts hold and people actually win those, those races. And he did it in two days. Folks, that's leadership. That's, that's playing hardball. Hey, Indiana, you listening? Hey, Kansas, you listening? Hey, all these other red states that have refused to do this, hello, look at what Ron DeSantis just showed you how to do. Frankly, even Texas, who was one of the brave ones that took the lead here, and my friend Phil King in the Senate led the way to make it happen. And potentially a five vote pickup in, Texas based on that. And by the way, that one was just uphill. but I mean, Texas could go even further based on this Supreme Court decision. So, hey, maybe they need to meet again, pick up two or three more seats as a result of that. You might say, what's it matter, Rick, if it's, if it's two seats, you know, what's, what's the big deal out of, out of 435. What? I just. If the majority is only two or three or four, two seats could mean everything in these midterms. And don't tell me you don't have time to do it. Look at what Florida just did. So I think, I think Ron DeSantis has thrown down the gauntlet and absolutely shown all of these other red states stop being wimps. Get it done. Fight fire with fire. Do it constitutionally, do it legally. Look at California, same thing, you know, and, I think, I think you're going to have to say at the end of the day that they probably followed the law, not saying it was good or right or fair or that you're going to have equitable, equitable representation out of their, what do they have, 50 something congressional seats, but legal. But Republicans, these wimpy Republicans, these, these opposite of men of Issachar that understand the times and know what to do. It's like they don't. They have no idea what time it is. And if they know what to do, they have no courage. They've got jelly for backbones. We need people like Ron DeSantis that have enough backbone to make a freight train take a dirt road. Hat tip Paul Sika for that line. I've been using it for 20 years since I heard him say it. All right, listen, this is a big deal, folks. This is. This. This could determine the majority, which could determine what happens for the next two to 20 years based on whether or not President Trump is able to follow through on this, making America great again. Whether or not the Trump agenda is able to happen. There's going to be a couple of Supreme Court justices potentially in the next couple of years that will be appointed. this is a big, big deal. What happens in November, in the midterms is huge. So I'm just encouraging every governor out there of a red state to play ball, get in the fight, and get this done. If you're a legislator in a red state and you've got any sway whatsoever to get this done, point to Florida, share what just happened in Florida with everyone in your state and encourage them to do the same thing. There is still time. Don't let anybody tell you there's not time. They can absolutely get this done. frankly, constitutionally, you could do this at the last minute. That's the power of the legislature. The legislature in each state has the ability to determine this and decide how it's going to get done. You just have to have the political will. Steve Dase has said this for a long time. It's not a nation of laws anymore. It's a nation of will. Which side has the will to do what needs to be done to win? That's not a. I'm not saying Machiavellian. Anything goes, everything's okay. This is not, you know, morals, to the wind. It might be caution to the wind, but it's not. It doesn't mean you have to cheat. That's one of the problems with our people. Our people are busy arguing about Robert's Rules of Order. I said this back when, in, 2020, whenever you had this literally just absolute abuse of power and violations of the Constitution all over the place by state legislatures changing or, by governors and, supreme courts changing election law. And you had some good people in Congress unwilling to argue against those electors being counted in the 2020 election. And I said, these guys think they're in a high school debate. They got their little bow tie on and they're arguing Robert's Rules of Order in a high school debate. And they don't realize we're in the trenches in an actual war right now. They are assassinating our people. They are killing our leaders and attempting to kill President Trump over and over and over again. And we're over here playing, you know, tiddlywinks. And again, literally, like we're in some sort of high school debate and people are arguing procedure of some arcane rule. Oh, we have to preserve the Senate's. What is the. Not the integrity. What's the word they use? The institution of the Senate. No, no, you don't. You need to preserve the Constitution is what you need to preserve. You need to preserve liberty in this country is what you need to preserve. You need to preserve the right to vote and call out people like Tim Waltz, who lied in his press conference and said, we protected everyone's right to vote. No, you didn't. You made it so easy for people to cheat. You took away the protection of my vote. You made it so easy to cheat that now my vote means nothing because some illegal alien from the Congo is going to cancel out my vote. This is the future of the country at stake, folks. So every state needs to do what Ron DeSantis and the Florida legislature just did. Got to take a quick break. 888-589-8840. We'll get to your calls in our final segment. 888-589-88420. You are listening to Add the Core with Walker Wabin and Rick Greene.

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Rick Green: This is at the Core on, American Family Radio with your host, Rick Green. Welcome back at the Core with Walker Wildmon and Rick Greene. Arm Rick Green, America's Constitution coach, thanks for staying with me. Talking about the redistricting decision by the Supreme Court. Huge, huge, huge. And, needs to be more than just Florida doing this. Louisiana, of course, is going to have to do something about what the court has said several other states that they, could do this, if they are willing, if they have the courage to do so. phone numbers. 888-589-8840-088858-98840. We'll go to Jeff in NewSong Mexico first. Jeff, you're up, man. Go ahead.

 : Yes, Rick. How you do today, sir?

Rick Green: Yes, sir. Thank you for calling in.

 : Yes, sir. Love the show. you're gonna have to forgive me if I'm just repeating something that you already stated. I.

Rick Green: No problem. Repetition is the mother of all learning.

 : Yes, sir. I really, truly believe that most Americans need to learn and understand the power grab that is state to state. It happened here in NewSong Mexico, and it was just, like, overnight, and nobody hardly knew anything about it. You know, we are completely.

Rick Green: What did you guys end up with?

 : What's that?

Rick Green: You know, what y' all's breakdown is now? What y' all end up with?

 : I can't give you the logistics of it. I. I just, I knew more about the logistics of it and then just further got angry, you know?

Rick Green: Yeah.

 : just discussed. But down here, our fossil fuels. In my area, you know, we're all more conservative over here. We're producing the money for the state, and in Santa Fe, in.

Rick Green: Albert, you pay the bills.

 : Yes, sir. And they hate us, you know, up in Santa Fe and Albuquerque. And they just, obviously they thought they, recognized a threat, I guess, maybe, of people, coming to a logical conclusion of conservative, and they thought a power grab was necessary.

Rick Green: Man, I just looked it up. You don't have any Republicans now. You've got both your U.S. senators, and all three members of the U.S. house, are Democrats. And what you're saying is so true. It's like that all over the place. M. The producers, the ones that pay the bills, and produce the jobs and all of that tend to be, You know, they loved it. To take the money and then use that money to go against what those very people want and believe. And that's what the scavengers do. Ben Shapiro's book Lions, and Scavengers, describes it, very well. do you remember when Jeff Yalls redistricting happened?

 : You know, unfortunately, I'm at the age where, time is starting to move faster and faster, but to me, it seems like.

Rick Green: I hear you, brother.

 : Probably two years. Yes, sir. Yeah, probably about two years ago is what I'm guessing. And when you mentioned, when we were talking about the logistics of it, I thought you were trying to, get a better understanding of the. The Layout, you know, of how to cut it up in the sections, you know what I'm saying? But, yeah, we're extremely dominated. There is no very few conservative voices.

Rick Green: Yeah, man, it's a shame. I wish, you know, there. I mean, the concept is supposed to be that if you have, you know, in NewSong Mexico's case, you got three districts, then you would think at least one of the three. I mean, the state is certainly at least, you know, 35, 40% Republican. But even in Massachusetts, and a bunch of those states that have 35, 40% Republicans, you know, no Republican representation in Congress as a result of that, I was trying to find. Let's see. Yeah, so even, even. Even Trump got 46% in, in NewSong Mexico. so, yeah, it's you. You would think one of the three districts that you guys have would be Republican. Now. It's, you know, it doesn't have to be that way. By the way, Jeff, thank you for calling in, man. I appreciate. Is it, is it is legal? Not necessarily fair, but legal for a party when they have control to draw those lines any way they want? I mean, this goes back all the way to, you know, literally Elbert's. Gerry. So I was just standing in Independence hall last week when the kids were signing the Declaration of Independence, thinking about Elbert. Jerry, here's a guy that helped give us the Declaration and influenced the Constitution. I mean, just, just a very important Founding father. And when he's governor of Massachusetts, they drew a line that looked, lines, for a district that looked like a salamander. And so, and because he was for it, because it helped his party, that became the name gerrymandering. That's why we call it gerrymandering. And it's legal, okay? And every party does it. I mean, you go back, the Whigs, the Federalists, the anti Federalists, I don't care which party. Democrats, Republicans, everybody does it. And so the question is, if you're following the law and you do it constitutionally and legally, according to the statutes in your particular states, then. Then should it. Should it be done? Actually, that's not the question. I'm wrong. That's not the question. Because it's going to be done. Like, there's no stopping that. That, that is. That is part of human nature and power and politics. The question is, if you do break the law when you're doing it, if you don't follow the rules that everybody agreed to of how this process would take place, should you be stopped from doing that? And that I think the answer is yes. I think if the Supreme Court doesn't strike down the Virginia redistricting, then you're basically saying to people, the law, the rules don't matter, the law doesn't matter, the Constitution doesn't matter. If you have the power, it's like a mob ocracy now. You get to do whatever you want. It's basically French Revolution time. Anything goes, everything's okay if you've got the power to law the tiger and the shark, you know, and we know where that leads. Pure evil, mass murder. I mean all the things that we've seen in history when you are not restrained by the rule of law. And so I think that, I think the decision on Virginia is going to be critical. What I don't know is whether or not if the Supreme Court was to rule quickly and this will be a state supreme court in, in in Virginia that'll have to rule on this. If they rule quickly on this, then I don't know if there is time for Virginia to do it the right way to actually follow the law. Because I know there's is a little bit like when I was a state rep in Texas, when you passed a law, you had to pass it twice on the House floor to send it over to the Senate. And so you basically what we called second reading, first reading was when it got assigned to committee, so you didn't actually discuss it at all. second reading is when you have all the big debate. If you get, get it out of committee and you get it through calendars, you get it to the floor, it's debated on second reading. Well then the next day is third reading and you got to pass it again. Rules are a little different. You got to have 2/3, to amend it and all that. But bottom line is you got to pass it twice in the same way. Virginia has this kind of lengthy process for amending their constitution, which is what was necessary for them to do redistricting mid decade. and it requires, which I think is a lot of states do this, it requires two legislative sessions to pass it. And that way, you know, it's a measured thing. You're taking your time, you're making sure the counter to that, the way we do it in Texas is you don't have to do it twice, but you gotta get 2/3. So you gotta have a super majority in order to get a constitutional amendment on the ballot in Texas. And then the people had to vote with a majority. So you know, m in our Case the Texas House, 150 members. You got to have 100 members vote for that constitutional amendment. And then in the Senate, you got to get 2/3 of 31. And so then it goes to the ballot and the people get a chance to vote on it. In Virginia, you have to get. You have to actually have it go through two legislative sessions. So I don't think there's any way they could do that, because I think it's even worded in such a way that it has to be a regular session. So the governor there, this left wing, you know, communist that they have as a governor, she could call a special session and they could pass it, and then call another special session, they could pass it. But I think even that would violate the way the Constitution of Virginia is set up, because it's got to be a regular session. I think that's right. I'm not looking at the notes or the constitutional language right now, but, as I recall, and looking at it, when this first passed, I think that is correct. Anyway. All that to say if they had done it legally, if they had done it constitutionally, more power to them. Not, not right necessarily, not, not fair, not equitable, but they have the power to do it. And frankly, red state should play ball and do the same thing if they do it legally and they do it the right way. Okay, we got Mary in Tennessee with a question about, all the gerrymandering. Go ahead, Mary.

 : Yes, I was really kind of wondering about this stuff. And how do we get it to what it's supposed to be if we know what that is?

Rick Green: You mean, how do you. How do you get the redistricting process to be more. More fair or. Meaning the. The specific districts.

 : Yeah. More constitutional, since we have a constitution where. The federal Constitution, too.

Rick Green: Yeah. Well, the federal constitution leaves it up to the states on how to draw their lines, how to do redistricting and how to what we call apportionment. and then. And I mean, I think the only fair way or the most fair way is the way I should say that, because it's going to be unfair to someone. Always. Always. And when it comes to redistricting, I haven't seen it be any better in states that have a commission that's supposed to be nonpartisan, but then who appoints the commission? And it's always partisans appointing the commission and who has the majority on the commission. And there's no way to remove the human nature and the politics part of it, because you're literally drawing political lines. So you're going to have politics, influence. So I put my personal opinion is that the states that still had the legislature do the drawing of the districts is the best way to do it. I think there's no way to remove the politics of it. So you're always going to have some skewing of the districts, whichever party happens to be in power. And, as long as you're again following the law, following the constitution, then you have the right to. To do that. Okay, let's go to Randall in, in Tennessee. Randall, go ahead, man. You're up next. Sorry to make it wait so long.

 : I love your program. Got a question. Have you been keeping up with what's going on in Alberta and what is your opinion on that? How that might.

Rick Green: You're talking about the effort to. They want to become the 51st state thing.

 : That's correct. Having a vote on that up there.

Rick Green: I take that back. I said that wrong. They're not saying they want to be the 51st state. They're saying they want to secede from. From Canada. We're the ones saying we might make them the 51st state of. Yeah, yeah. If they did, man, I don't know. I haven't followed it in the last month or so. I was very intrigued by it, I think. I mean, certainly what I would be pushing for if I was in their situation where the Canadian government has become so socialist and frankly tyrannical in the way that they've governed, not just in Covid, but beyond when it comes to firearms and all kinds of things that they're. That they're doing. So I would certainly be pushing forward if I lived in a province and had, you know, anywhere close to the support or the, political will in the community. You know, if it's what the people want, then I think they should absolutely be able, to do that. And I wish I could say I knew more about Canada's history with regard to, you know, the formation of the Canadian government and these provinces and how much they're like states and. And, you know, in our case with America, the states created the federal government, and it's why they are the most powerful in the constitution, why constitutional amendments have to go back to ratification, and why the states have the power to amend without the federal government involved at all. That is a mechanism ultimately giving the state legislatures the final say in the final power over what America looks like. They just don't use it. They should use it. That's why I'm a big proponent of commission of States Article 5 of the Constitution because it, it rights the ship, it gets the power back in the right hands. I don't know about Canada. I don't, I don't know how they do that on the, on the federal level, but just from a, you know, principle of association and, and people being able to determine their future and their fate. I, my, my knee jerk reaction again without knowing the history and the legality of how their provinces are part of the Canadian government and what their, you know, constitutional, clauses are on this sort of thing. I, am all for a, secession being allowed for large areas that get to a point where it's like Judah and Israel and you just get to a point where you can't, you know, you can't live together anymore and you have to find a way to govern yourselves. Now I know what you're thinking as you're listening to me say that with only two minutes left in the program, well, what about America and what about the fact that we're so split and what about the fact that our states are so different now and people always say Texas should secede or California should secede or whatever. look, at the end of the day, I think from a principle perspective, a state should have the right to do that. It's not like the Civil War anymore. It's not like those times. and the founders even questioned whether a republic could work when it got over 50 million people. So there's some arguments for why just as a nature of man and self governance and all of those things that states should be able to do that. I don't think it's good. I think strategically it would be very bad if California seceded and was its own state. I think they would come under Chinese influence and other nations and potentially either just through partnership or even potentially being part of them at some point. And then you've got literally the enemy on our doorstep instead of, ocean away. same for Texas. I used to think Texas seceding might be a good idea. I don't think that anymore. I think we have to stay together as a nation to be as strong as we need to be. And also because as I started the program with when Arlington National Cemetery and the students going there, every time I go there, I am hit with the fact that Californians died for my freedom. There were people in Minnesota that were willing to go around the world and die for my freedom. There were people in Massachusetts. You get what I'm saying? In other words, we're in this together. We're a nation that has fought and bled together, sacrificed together, served each other, been at each other's throats like brothers and sisters tend to do. And there are people in this country that, yeah, I often say, I don't know if I can live with these people. They're that crazy. But at the end of the day, God has blessed this land as a nation, and I think there's revival in the land and an awakening happening in the land. And those really, really bad blue states, the ones that are just doing horrible policies and punishing their people and doing, terrible things, I think their people are waking up, and I think the pain is about to cause some people to get tough. The. The tough times are going to create some tough men in these states, and they're going to lead us back into good times in those states as well as the whole nation. I really believe that. That's my hope. That's why Patriot Academy exists. That's why we have Constitution coaches in every state and every community. Because our hope is that we get another 250 years. Should the Lord. Terri and regardless of what the outcome is, duty is ours. Results are God's. Go do your duty, I'll do mine. Let's do everything we can to make sure America gets another 250. Let's go make America great again. To do that, we got to know what made America great in the first place. And that's why you listen to at the core. Thanks for listening. Today you've been listening to at the core with Walker Wildmon and Rick Green. The views and opinions expressed in this

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