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Jenna Ellis: Rights that our founders recognize come from God our creator

 : Jenna Ellis in the morning on American Family Radio.

Jenna Ellis: I love talking about the things of God because of truth and the biblical worldview, the U.S. constitution obligates our government to preserve and protect. The rights that our founders recognize come from God our creator, not our government. I believe that scripture in the Bible is very clear that God is the one that raised up each of you and God has allowed us to be brought here to this specific moment in time.

 : This is Jenna Ellis in the morning. Amen.

Easter Sunday celebrates the resurrection of Jesus Christ

Jenna Ellis: Good morning. It is Monday, April 6th and I hope that all of you had a wonderful Easter Sunday yesterday or Resurrection Day as my family always called it, to kind of separate the pagan, secular bunnies and eggs kind of version, versus what we're actually celebrating, which is of course the resurrection of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. And it's the most important event in world history. And the fact that it is an event in world history, is, is the significant part of it because this isn't just a religious belief. This isn't just a a Sunday that we go and we we express a belief or a religious aptitude or go and have you know, kind of this, this religious performative kind of service. It's a recognition actually each and every Sunday morning of the truth of the reality of the entire gospel of Christ. And as I was actually leaving the Good Friday service at my church, and I love that we have the Good Friday service and then the Sunday morning service and how, we do both of those, talking about what, what was necessary to get us to the moment of the cross and then at the tomb and after the trial of course, and the persecution, the death, and burial of Christ, then we end and say of course, you know, Sunday is coming and then celebrate that miraculous, wonderful event Sunday morning. But as I was leaving, there was someone else, you know, kind of walking by and and expressing to, to their friend, you know I, I love Easter services and I really wish that we did this more than once a year. And I thought yeah, this is really amazing. And then I thought we do, we actually do every Sunday morning. We should have the same awe, the same wonder, the same respect and the same reverence for the fact that this incredible event happened and, and the awe of the power and the authority of the God that we serve and the God who is the creator of all things. And you know, as, as we're watching this amazing event of the Artemis 2 and for the first time in Gen Z's history and For a lot of us who, you know, weren't around when the last, the last series of NASA launches and going to the moon and all of that, you know, we've just kind of read this in the history books, watched it on, on the movies. but when we're seeing this actually happen and seeing the vastness of the universe and seeing just how small our planet is in the midst of all of this, you know, you can kind of have one of two reactions. You can either think, wow, there is a lot of nothingness and we are just in the middle of a dirt clod out in space, as the old the old song goes, and we are meaningless. We have, you know, no hope and we have no meaning. And it's just it's overwhelming. Or you can have the response. Isn't it incredible how fine tuned our universe is and our planet is for habitation of the creation of mankind and for the discoverable nature of the reality of God that we can be on a planet that is so perfectly fine tuned for life, for us and for the, the physical reality of human life. And to see how incredible all of these pictures are from the Artemis, and to see the wonders of creation and you think about the vastness of our universe, I mean not even just our solar system, but then how far it goes beyond even the, the short distance really by comparison that the Artemis too is taking. And then if you think down as well to how minuscule the creation is on a cellular, molecular and even DNA level. And my pastor was talking about that actually yesterday and talking about just the power and the awe of God and how we need to be so reverent and in awe of his creation. And he was talking about, you know, how DNA is the language of life and it is literally the language of our human bodies. and it's the language of life. And we are in a word based universe. And this is why, you know, words have meaning. And we need to make sure that we are always very careful to not allow these perversion and the lies of things like saying, you know, for example, men can become women or using the wrong terminology. I mean there are so many things that are manipulated in communication based on manipulating words. And words have meaning. And when, you know, we talk about the word of God when we, when we talk about how God spoke everything into existence in the universe, it was just through his word and his power. And when we think about that and then how the Bible says the word became flesh, it's Talking about the person of Jesus Christ and how he became flesh and he was fully God and fully man. And the power that that took to not only have the incarnation that we celebrate, at Christmas, which we should be celebrating every day and thinking about every day, but. But then we also have the. So the incarnation that was just an incredible miraculous event, but then we also celebrate the death and then the resurrection of Christ, which was an incredible, miraculous factual event. And the kind of power that took. I mean, we were on this radio network every day talking about, you know, politics and politicians and news of the day and, you know. Yes. And cultural and theological topics as well. But a lot of times we emphasize the. The power of politicians here in the United States. And it just struck me yesterday as I was sitting in church, how genuinely minuscule the power is of man by comparison to the awe of the authority, and the nature of God. And if we actually sit back and we compare the authority and the power that God has to speak this universe into existence for the incarnation as a factual event to take place, for the death and the resurrection of Christ, and that was easy for him. I mean, he can do all things and those kinds of miraculous events by comparison to the type of power that we think we have as human beings. I mean, it's just, it's. It's. It's like saying, you know, wow, look at the distance we're going from, you know, the earth to the moon. And, yeah, that's, you know, it's a lot, and it's really amazing. But by comparison to the rest of the universe, I mean, it's barely a step. And it just reminds us how small and, truly insignificant we really are. And the fact that our God knows us by name and he loves us enough that the entire unfolding of the gospel happened to where he sent his Son to give us life eternally.

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Jenna Ellis: I mean, you know, the creatures that he could have just, you know, spat in our face and said, okay, you rejected me. You know, fine, deal with it. He didn't have to. But the fact that he loves us so much that this event actually factually took place is just incredible. And I think we take it for granted too much because we have, in our. Especially in our American society, we've become so accustomed to exercising religious freedom, to growing up in a culture really that is very Christian by comparison to some other cultures. And, and yet when we look at the Christian martyrs, the people who are willing to die for their faith, it wasn't that they were just willing to die for their religious belief. I mean as my pastor said yesterday, there are a lot of people who are willing to die for different beliefs, for ah, political opportunism for power, for the, the hope of financial gain or you know, hope in a ridiculous belief that they'll have, you know, 70 virgins waiting for them. You know, their people are willing to die for all kinds of things. But what makes Christian martyrs different is that they died for something that they know is true and that they are not willing to deny. That motivation matters because Christian martyrs had no earthly gain, no political power takeover, no promise of immediate power. They simply refused to deny what they witnessed and what they know to be the truth. And that is an incredible testimony to the truth of the fact and the proof of the resurrection. Because the apostles didn't try to gain anything. All that they gained was persecution, exile, execution, not wealth or influence. And they were so certain about it because they had witnessed it for themselves. And it's just, it's so incredible. And as I was sitting in church yesterday, it also struck me that you know, as we're sitting here in 2026 and having this ridiculous fight and conversation ah, about whether Christianity, you know, versus the Jews or the anti Semitism or you know, whether the Old Testament is relevant and you know, all of this kind of stuff, we need to sit back and actually recognize what the full context of the truth of the Gospel of Christ is. Because when we look at the necessity of the life, the incarnation, the life and the death and resurrection of Christ, that started all the way back in the Old Testament, once sin entered the world, then by necessity we were looking to a Messiah and we could not identify the truth of who the Messiah is without the Old Testament scholars identify over 300 messianic prophecies in the Old Testament that point specifically to the identity of Jesus Christ and the entire Judeo worldview. The entire scope of the Old Testament and Old Testament Israel was looking forward to and foreshadowing a Messiah that was to come. Everything that Old Testament Israel did was in preparation for the coming of the Messiah. And so salvation actually hasn't changed because pre cross to be saved you had to believe that God would send a Messiah. And there was an insufficient propitiation for sin and covering of sin through the sacrifice of the blood of literal lambs and all of the Old Testament, Judeo, their customs and you know, all of all of the things that were bound up in the religious law that God had for them. It was never though about keeping the Law, it was about trusting God's promise of redemption. And the entire Old Testament is a foreshadowing and a prophetic word of how we were going to recognize the Messiah when he came. And so then when Jesus came, then the Jews who recognized that and understood this is the Messiah, then that became the fulfillment of the entire foreshadowing of everything that came before. And we would not have Christianity, we would not have the Messiah without what had gone before, because it's the entire grand narrative of the truth of the Gospel of Christ. And so we can't simply cut off and say, well, the Old Testament doesn't matter because this is a new covenant. And, you know, the Gentiles are grafted in and all of these things that were maybe taking out of context. We have to have the Old Testament because it identifies who the Messiah is and how we recognize him so that then we can now have salvation through putting our trust in the lordship of Christ and repenting of our sin and recognizing that he is Messiah. We would not have the truth of the Gospel of Christ without the truth of the full gospel of Christ. And so there's only ever been one gospel before and after the cross. And that promise began so much earlier than most people realize. And so the need for the Messiah and to recognize why, starting all the way back in Genesis 3, that necessity for the Messiah to come was that was that prophecy that then would take the entire Old Testament so that we could recognize Him. We need to make sure that we are not doing a disservice to the truth of God and to what we celebrated yesterday and what we should, with the same awe and reverence, celebrate each and every Sunday or whatever day that you go to church, I mean, celebrate it every day. But that's why Christians now celebrate Sunday morning is because every week we stand up in church, we gather together, and we testify faithfully to the truth that we know the identity of the Messiah who came and we are trusting in, in God's entire redemptive plan and that we are now part of the new covenant in his blood, where we recognize the Messiah and we know his identity because of the full scope of the Gospel. So it's just, it's really incredible. And we need to have that same awe every Sunday when we go and we worship the Lord. We have to take a break here. so much more to be said on this, but I hope that as you have been celebrating Easter Sunday, and we can take a break here.

Jenna Ellis: We never cease to recognize that our God is an awesome God

Devin. I hope that as you are celebrating Easter Sunday and you're thinking about all of that, that you are reminded of how amazing, and powerful and wonderful our God truly is. He is an awesome God. And in spite of the headlines, in spite of, you know, everything else that we're going to be talking about this week and moving forward, we never cease to fail to recognize that our God is an awesome God. He is powerful, all powerful. And as much as we can and should, be frustrated with our own insufficient, ah, feeble human governments, we, know that we can rest our eternal hope in the salvation that only comes through Christ Jesus. We'll be right back.

 : welcome back to Jenna Ellis in the Morning on American Family Radio.

President Trump warns against reading into reports of impending Cabinet shakeup

Jenna Ellis: Welcome back. Well, a lot of news that, happened over the weekend, and not the least of which is, the U.S. rescuing a missing airman from the Iranian mountains after the fighter jet was shot down. an incredible rescue story and I agree with my good friend Robbie Starbuck that likely that'll be made into a movie sometime soon and, hopefully they'll get all of the details right and not be so anti Trump and in Hollywood, but we'll see. but a really incredible story as the conflict in Iran continues. Trump, yesterday, on Easter Sunday, sent out a message that got, you know, a lot of criticism. I think that there was a lot of sarcasm in the message. I'm, not going to read the whole thing, because there's a lot that we can't actually read for the air on that one. But, basically he's saying to Iran, you know, get it together, and is, is still telling them that they'll be sorry if they don't actually come to the table and negotiate. Some of those negotiations are continuing. So we'll see what happens, with the conflict as we approach, day 40 of that conflict in Iran. But meanwhile, on Friday, Trump came out with firing Pam Bondi, who is the Attorney General. She was ousted from her post, last week, just weeks after a former Homeland Security Secretary, Kristi Noem, was also removed from her role. But according to the Hill, Trump says not to expect Cabinet shakeup after Bondi and Noem firing. So he warned against reading into reports of an impending Cabinet shakeup. During a brief phone interview on Sunday, Trump told the Hill that reports of staffing shakeups should not be read into saying the country was on the right track. so, you know, while the cabinet may, may be continuing in its current form, at least for the, you know, the future, the current future right now we still need to see who is going to be the next Attorney General and who will be nominated.

Gerard Felitti says Pam Bondigo did a poor job as AG

So let's welcome in Gerard Felitti. He's senior counsel for the Lawfare Project. And Gerard, you know, overall, I was very happy to see Pam Bondigo. I mean, she's. I've known her as a personal friend for years. I think she's a brilliant lawyer. I think, you know, she's, she's excellent. But I don't think she did a particularly good job, at least on the scale of what the American people can observe. I, think the handling of the entire PR around the Epstein files was handled poorly from the very beginning, all the way through. there were a lot of frustrations. I know that, Dan Bongino and others, who were in the FBI, had voiced, frustrations that she wasn't willing to go after certain, targets, that she really wasn't able, or willing to be kind of this hardcore Attorney General that the American people want. And it seems like, nobody that Trump has appointed to this position has been able to be a seriously effective Attorney General. And so this raises the question of who could be a really good replacement, but with that really good replacement, would that be somebody that this particular Senate would confirm?

Gerard Filitti: Well, that's an excellent question. And really we have to look at the issues that are systemic in the Justice Department that have kept Pam Body, or potentially would hamper anyone else from being as effective as President Trump would like. And really, the Justice Department has been shown over the years to be entrenched with Democratic operatives and people who just don't like Republicans, don't like conservative values, and have weaponized the department itself. So whoever is in there has a tough, Has a tough task ahead of them to begin with. Pam Bonney certainly didn't do herself any favors. The way she handled the Epstein files, the way she testified before Congress, and the lack of what some perceives as progress in prosecuting, some people from the, previous administration who certainly seem to have violated the law. But the next Attorney General will have an equally difficult task. We've talked. There's been talk about people like Lee Zeldin coming in who, Trump trusts implicitly and is a fantastic lawyer with great experience. but anyone who comes into that job is going to be facing an uphill task.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. And that is the reality of it. I mean, it's not. We shouldn't want an Attorney General to come in that just, you know, goes out and starts, filing all kinds of, you know, lawfare just because of retaliation or vengeance or anything like that. I mean, obviously there are contours and boundaries to this job. But we should want someone that is genuinely effective and is willing to prosecute offenders and people who've actually violated the law, regardless of the position of power they might hold or whether they have an R or D after their name. And it's that kind of two tiered system of justice that I think people are so frustrated with because they see the, you know, the average Christian right who is getting prosecuted under the Face act and they're seeing all of the persecution of conservatives, of Christians, of Trump supporters through the Biden administration. And then the, and then Trump finally gets in and nobody is held accountable. And people who should be prosecuted under the, the, whether it's the Epstein case or you know, anywhere else, it seems like there's not really an appetite to actually do the business of the Department of Justice. And do you see that as more of a failing of Republicans to to actually pursue accountability? Is this more partisan politicking or you know, what's kind of the rationale?

Gerard Filitti: I think in part the challenge is that when you're backwards looking and looking to bring accountability to people who have been making bad decisions in the past, it's much easier to get distracted politics. It's much easier to get drawn into a political discussion instead of a legal one. And this plays out in mass media as well. the Justice Department perhaps would be in a better position to be looking in and focusing its investigative efforts on the fraud that we're seeing in Minnesota, the fraud that we're seeing in California, these large scale schemes that are coming from progressive left leaning states, like those run by Governor Newsom or Governor Walz, where you have clear criminal violations, but they're less political than you might think because these are something that is grabbing the American public's attention. You're not looking to relitigate something that happened three or four years ago in the political sphere, but you're looking at crimes that impact everyday Americans. And I think when the Justice Department loses that focus, then Republicans need to do a better job of focusing it, especially when they have both houses of Congress and the White House.

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Jenna Ellis: And you know, and a lot of this really does seem to come down to a lack of political will, not only in the doj, but also in Congress as well. because when we talk about who could possibly be confirmed, I mean you have Senator Thom Tillis who's you know, out almost immediately after Pam Bondi is fired, talking about, you know, if, if a nominee doesn't share his personal perspective on January 6th of all things, then, you know, he's not going to vote for them. And it's like, you know, really, honestly, especially with Trump pardoning, you know, Everybody involved in January 6th and you know, can't we, can't we move on from that? I mean, it's like that, no, that wasn't a, you know, a 9, 11 and all of that. And yes, as, as, as much as the actual, offender should have been prosecuted, but a lot of them were over prosecuted. You know, isn't it time that we kind of move on from that and instead of making that sort of partisan flashpoint such a big issue for a future nominee? And it's almost like that's just the litmus test to say, are you so loyal to Trump that you're willing to, to have his view of January 6th, or are you independent minded enough that you're willing to go against his view and tell us that? I mean, that to me doesn't make or break an Attorney General's effectiveness. I mean, I could disagree with a, an Attorney General nominee on a variety of things of January 6th and they could still be incredibly effective or incredibly ineffective. That, to me, is not the litmus test. And it's really frustrating that the, that even Republican senators would choose to focus on something like that instead of actual competency.

Gerard Filitti: No, you're absolutely right. And the focus shouldn't be on events of January 6th. It should be on their view or their interpretation of the law. The loyalty. Ultimately, of course, Donald Trump is the head of the Republican Party. He's the visionary of maga and people in the party owe him loyalty. But ultimately, when you are Attorney General, when you are in that position, your loyalty is to the Constitution. So the real test, the real question should be how do you interpret the Constitution? How do you interpret something like the Face Act? Are you only going to use it to prosecute people who protest abortion clinics, or are you also going to use it to protest people who barge into churches and disrupt services? That should be the real litmus test. It's the view on interpreting the laws and how that happens, the faithfulness of the Constitution. and we shouldn't be dragged into partisan politics about January 6th. We should be really addressing how people view the Constitution and law enforcement.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, 100%.

Who should be next attorney general? Obviously, that's up to Donald Trump

And so, you know, so that then goes to who should be the next attorney, general nominee, Obviously, that's up to Donald Trump, and we can all voice our opinions, but, the decision resides with him. I personally, while I think, you know, Governor Ron DeSantis would do an excellent job, I don't think that this is particularly, the job for him, just because of the. The nature of the position and how, how that really kind of goes against, the grain of a good relationship with the president. We've seen how that's gone over the last several attorneys general in Trump's, first term, and usually those relationships don't end particularly well. And I, you know, if Governor DeSantis decides to go into the Trump admin, his tenure, and his term as governor, then, you know, great. But I'd love to see him in more of, an administrative position, not something like the doj, even though, you know, he would do a good job. I think that somebody more like, a tenacious kind of prosecutor. I don't think it has to be somebody that's even, you know, well known as, you know, it doesn't have to be somebody who's already a celebrity, like, you know, a Ted Cruz or a Lee Zeldin or, you know, a Ron DeSantis. You know, we. We should want someone who is effective, not someone who is just well known. but Lee Zeldin seems to be somebody that, at least has gotten some attention that. That maybe Trump is considering. What do you think of him, if he is going to be the nominee?

Gerard Filitti: I think he has an excellent chance of making it through Senate confirmation, and he certainly has the temperament for it, and temperament is really important here. It's not just the vision that Donald Trump has, but when you are Attorney General, you need to work well and be really diplomatic, not just with the White House, but with Congress, with people within the Justice Department, and ultimately with judges as well. so it's a really tough position to balance, because on the one hand, we do want someone who is an aggressive and capable prosecutor, but we also need someone who has the skill to bring people together to work towards that. And we've seen within Pam, Bondi's Justice Department, very much an era of divisiveness that kept prosecutions from taking place, that led to resignations and hampered the process significantly. So Lee Zeldin, yeah, he is known for being, in many ways diplomatic and speaking well and getting along where he needs to. I also think Todd Blanche is, underrated as someone who can remain in the job, currently as interim ag. he's very competent as well and understands how the system works to the effectiveness that the Trump wants. So I think those are two very strong candidates right there.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. And Todd Blanch, you know, there's been a lot of, concern just because of his, his history formerly of being a Democrat. And obviously once he started representing Trump and went into the doj, switched his affiliation, which, you know, looked what it is, which is just very political and it's fine. Right. I mean, it's, it's something that, in my view, it's not necessarily a, a drawback to say that, you know, you were formerly a Democrat and now you're coming into the Justice Department. Because when I was a prosecutor, there were people who I actually found were better, more ethical prosecutors who were Democrats in Colorado just because of their, their view overall of what justice requires than some Republicans. And so it wasn't so much that the Republican versus Democrat, view mattered as much when you're talking about prosecution overall and the justice system. So that doesn't, to me, bother me as much unless it's something that, you know, he would go in and try to undermine Trump. And you know, it's kind of that wolf in sheep's clothing. But I think given, what Todd Blanche has already done in terms of representing Trump himself prior to, to the 2024 election and then what he's done currently in the DOJ, I mean, I think he's kind of earned his stripes there. And so that, to me, isn't as big of a deal that he was formerly a Democrat. Now, if he was, you know, going into a more of a inherently political position, that would be more concerning. What's your thought?

Gerard Filitti: Well, Ronald Reagan began his political career as a Democrat. I'm not concerned about, you know, I'm not concerned about past allegiances. I'm more concerned about where they view things today, whether they support the agenda that the conservatives are trying to, fight for, but whether they're able and competent to support that in court, in the justice system, which is what this job calls for. And I think Todd Blanche has shown that he can. He is, he is, certainly on the same page as Manga when it comes to priorities. So I'm not concerned about his past affiliations. It really comes down to is he going to be a strong advocate for the Trump administration while remaining as impartial as possible in the administration of justice? And I think that he certainly has, as you say, earned his stretch in that.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. And, you know, and I really Hope that for everyone listening, the emphasis and the focus on. And again, I mean, I don't think our opinion is necessarily going to carry weight. I mean, Trump will choose who he will. but if, the public kind of cry or clamor for, you know, certain individuals, weighs anything on President Trump's mind, I hope that we are smart enough to want someone who is competent, qualified, and, you know, frankly, a really, strategic, more ruthless, person who doesn't care as much about politics, they don't have a political agenda or aspiration. I would love to see somebody who, you know, was not formerly in politics rather than, you know, what we're seeing a lot of the, you know, kind of the focus on X, which is, you know, people are wanting the Attorney General pick, like they are picking their, you know, their. Their flag footballer lineup or whatever, their fantasy football lineup, where it's. It's more about the celebrity nature of the individual. And I think that that's a mistake for any position when it comes to government. Celebrity shouldn't matter. but especially when it comes to something like the Department of Justice, that really needs someone who understands the interests of justice and is willing to pursue that without fear or favor and without caring about politics. And that's something, honestly, that would make somebody like a Ron DeSantis Very good. I mean, because he has proven over and over he doesn't care what the media says, he's going to do the right thing and he's going to get things done regardless. And so somebody in that kind of mindset and vein I, really hope is, is the next pick, because it really seems like Gerard, Trump just has a real difficulty picking attorneys, general. He hasn't had a really good track record on this front.

Gerard Filitti: He hasn't. But then again, we also, as critical as I can be of Pam Bondi, we do have to look at all of Trump's attorney generals have done the job when it mattered. I mean, they've put, they've gone after transnational gangs, they've gone after terrorist organizations. When it comes to the nuts and bolts of what the Justice Department needs to do, they've done that part of it. unfortunately. They all have seen, to get dragged into or mired into controversies that really bogged down their work and their ability to help President Trump carry out his larger agenda. So that really, to me, I mean, I love Ron DeSantis. I think he would be a great Attorney General. But my one concern is that when you do have Someone who is a political name, someone who is known to the media, someone who is polarizing already, then that will just cause the department to be more polarized. Whereas if you have someone who is more of a technical expert, who the media doesn't already hate, that the mainstream media doesn't already hate, they may actually be more effective at getting the job done.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, well, well said. And we have to take a break here, but Gerard Felitti, really appreciate it and you know, we'll see. And we'll also see if the Senate is willing to, to confirm Trump's next appointment without going through a lot of hoops and rigmarole. And the Senate in my opinion, should confirm Trump's pick, because Republicans do have the majority still. And so Trump should get his picks. the whole point of advice and consent isn't just to hamstring a president. But you know, unless there's some really, really big issue with a nominee, hopefully, you know, that will go through without, you know, a lot of hassle, like you know, the dhs, and Mark Wayne Mullin as the next Homeland, security nominee. I mean he pretty much sailed right through. But Gerard Fletty, really appreciate it. You can follow him on X. We'll be right back with more foreign.

What is meant to be a prayer chapel has become a Muslim mosque in airports

welcome back to Jenna Ellis in the Morning on American Family Radio.

Jenna Ellis: Welcome back. And you know, as we've been talking about all of the, all of the issues with the. With different religious beliefs in American society and we've seen the rise unfortunately of the Sharia law in America which is not a religious belief system. It is a different parallel legal system that has absolutely no, no authority in the United States. And thankfully the Sharia Law Caucus has been founded in Congress. Hopefully we'll legislate on that front. but there's a lot of concerns among people in even in red states about how how much the kind of Muslim domination is taking over, especially with the importing of so many immigrants, legal and illegal. And my friend Kira Davis, who is an author and conservative commentator, posted last week, this video saying I have a habit of stopping by airport chapels when I have the time. Most of them have closed down in the US and major airports, but Dallas, Fort Worth reopened theirs and they're basically mosques. I had a very uncomfortable experience praying in the chapel on Palm Sunday, but I refused to leave. Leave while the Muslims were being so nasty. I refused to leave what is meant to be a temple of the Lord. Especially on Palm Sunday. So Kira joins me now. And, you know, this is a really concerning, confrontation that you had. So describe first your experience, at Dallas Fort Worth. And I think it will surprise a lot of listeners that what. What is meant to be a prayer chapel has basically become a Muslim mosque in United States airports.

Kira Davis: Well, hi, Jenna. It's good to be with you this morning. Yeah, well, like you read, I do have a habit of stopping through airport chapels when I have time. It's. I don't know, it's kind of a thing that I do. You know, some people collect old newspapers. I do that. And, I like to see what each one looks like. And DFW closed theirs down years ago. I knew that because the last time I had gone through there, they were closed, or they have. Or, they had put them outside the terminal, which at the time I thought was a response to Muslims. I actually did. I thought that there were Muslims who didn't like having a faith chapel inside the terminal. But I noticed when I went through last Monday, they had three. I thought, wow, isn't that something? I'm going to go visit all three inside the terminal. And, the first one I went to felt like a mosque. It didn't have any Christian symbol in it. there were paintings on the wall that felt vaguely Islamic, although they were meant to represent houses of worship. But even there, no crosses painted on any of those buildings. It just felt cold and empty. So I left. I went to the second one and sat down. Same situation. there was no cross. There's no Christian symbolry. but lots of prayer rugs. Hundreds, in fact, drawers filled with prayer rugs, Qurans, and a nice convenience sign on the wall that pointed you to Mecca. and it didn't feel like a chapel at all, but it was called the chapel, the interfaith chapel, of course. And I sat and prayed, but, there was already a gentleman in there. When I got there, he was on his phone. He was watching a video on his phone. he was a Muslim gentleman. He had his shoes off, and he was not happy to see me. and then he eventually started his prayers and was joined by another gentleman. And more and more came. All of them were very upset that I was there. There's always a conversation, I think, about me. There were no other Christians in there. eventually they would get tired of sort of talking loud and aggressively and just do their prayers. but I felt as though, Jenna, maybe I'm being paranoid, but I felt as though they were trying to wait me out. They were. They were upset that there was a woman in there or anybody in there at all. And they were trying to wait me out. So one wouldn't leave until the next one came. But I had the five hour layover, Jenna, so I just stayed there until I thought maybe the last one had come. And I know that that's just symbolic, right, because obviously people come in and out of there all day. I can't squat there forever. But I just felt so. I felt intimidated. And and I thought, this is absolutely ridiculous. The thing. The thing is called a chapel. You know, only one religion uses chapels. Jews don't use chapels. Muslims don't use chapels. Christians use chapels. I know it's supposed to be interfaith, but it wasn't. It was a mosque.

Jenna Ellis: M. You know, and what a terrifying experience, quite frankly. And, you know, you're very brave to just kind of wait it out and to stake your ground and basically say, symbolically, I deserve to be here as well. You know, this isn't something that is just a, territory that. That the Muslims can just come in and basically claim as their own and take over instead of it being, truly a chapel and what it's meant to be. And, you know, this just raises though, the broader question of, you know, where we're at in this country when we have experiences like this. I mean, you know, so many people, ah, on X have asked this question, you know, well, whatever happened to our secular nation? And I'm thinking, well, it's never been sec. We've tried to, Unfortunately, and I think the Supreme Court especially has tried to make it secular or interfaith, any of the coexist bumper stickers and all of this. but really it's. It's not. And yet when we stand here in 2026 and we see these experiences, like in a Texas airport, I mean, that. That should be concerning for the trajectory of the demographic and the population of our country.

Kira Davis: Oh, a thousand percent. And I've known that Texas is struggling with their Islamic population. I think a lot of people are starting to understand that. We see what's already happened in Dearborn. We have so many other things going on right now.

Jenna says interfaith chapel at DFW airport was disturbing

I think that this is a problem that a lot of people have not been focusing on, but we absolutely need to, because Islam spreads. It is not. It is a religion of cockroach. So it's not a religion that comes to live in peace. And of course, Christianity does come to live in peace. Well, let me Say this, Jenna, when I posted that, first of all, when I was sitting in that room and everybody might want to know, it took me an hour. I lasted an hour until the chapel was empty. And it seemed like it was going to be empty. But when I was sitting in that room, one thing that I thought about was, I'm very isolated back here. If you've ever been to an airport chapel, a lot of them, are in hallways. In hallways. You know, you guys kind of got a weave back there. So that's one thing. At one moment, I thought to myself, I'm not sure if there are cameras in here. I am all by myself. Nobody knows I'm back here. Is I should not feel that way in an airport chapel at all, let alone airport period. So there was that. But second of all, I got a number of complaints on my post from people saying, well, you were in the interfaith space, and, you know, why can't you be a good Christian and share? You know what, Jenna? They weren't sharing. They didn't want to share. Second of all, the idea of an interfaith chapel is an abomination. And I just want to say right now, that's ridiculous. And there should be no such thing as an interfaith chapel. There's no such thing as interfaith, and we need to stop with this ridiculousness. Christians and Muslims cannot worship together. When I was in that chapel, those men knew it. I knew it. We all. That was the only thing we all agreed on. We all knew we weren't supposed to be in that space together. The, the difference between Christians and Muslims, as Muslims don't care, they will push you out. Christians will step aside, and we need to stop stepping aside. And that's what I chose to do that morning, Jenna. I just. I just had had enough, and I thought, I'm not going to step aside. I'm not going to let the gospel step aside for this. So I think the whole idea of interfaith anything is an abomination in the first place. And what happened to me is exactly what will happen to Christianity if we insist on letting our spaces become, quote, interfaith or multicultural. We have to stop with this. Islam cannot exist in the United States. My airport experience was just like a microcosm of that.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, so well said. Because, you know, this whole idea of tolerance only goes one way. And so it's. It's the left suggesting that Christians should be tolerant, we should leave the spaces. You know, if we make anyone feel uncomfortable, we should bend over backwards. But then they don't require that reciprocal tolerance and coexisting, from, you know, from Muslims or from literally any other faith. I mean, it's always. It seems to be just. Yeah, it's just targeted against Christians.

Kira Davis: And, Jenna, let me tell you this. There weren't just. There aren't three chapels in DFW like I thought that day, by the way. I only got to two of them because that second experience was so disturbing, I didn't want to go to the third one. I was wearing breakup bright colors, and I was afraid. There's a lot of those people that came in and out were airport employees. So I was just afraid maybe somebody was communicating about me in the airport. So already then here I am, afraid to be walking around an airport, an American airport. But the other. The other thing is that there are two more chapels outside security. So DFW went from zero to a. So, they took our chapels out of American airports because they were offensive to people. And now in dfw. Dfw, there's five. There's five. Why do you think they did that, Jenna? it's because we have. We have almost exclusively staffed all of our major airports with Muslim employees.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, this wasn't. This wasn't to make the Christians feel comfortable, you know, that at all. I mean, so.

This is a Christian nation. And we've got to stand our ground

So, Kira, we gotta end it here, but I so appreciate you waking up so early. I know you're on the west coast to join us today. Follow her at Kira Davis on x. And we've got to stand our ground. This is a Christian nation. As always, you can reach me and my team, Jenna fr dot net.