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Post-Midterm Election Analysis: Examining GOP's Future and Lessons from the Trump Era
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Jenna Ellis Good morning. It is Thursday, November 5, and the country is still reeling from the aftermath of the absolute bloodbath of the midterms, the elections. And there have been a lot of, postmortems and analyses. And the question, of course, beyond what happened. And I think it's pretty obvious, and even the vice president admitted that in a, an X post yesterday that, the war in Iran was a big deal, but also just not keeping your promises, that is actually a big deal. Not paying attention to what the voters want, that is a big deal. And so it's pretty clear at least as to what happened. But the question remains is where will the GOP go from here? Will they be smart enough to learn this lesson? Will they blame the consultants, blame what was obvious, blame everybody except themselves, or will they actually take a really close, hard look at not, only the lessons from this election, but literally the whole Trump era, and then also what came before, why Trump was actually so popular and won in 2016, when the GOP certainly didn't want to nominate him. And so can, can we learn from history, or are we doomed to repeat it? And I think where we go from here will tell us, the story of whether we actually can survive, in this country as a more perfect union and as a Christian nation. And where we go from here. And so our good friend Steve Dace, host at the Blaze, has been one of the most prolific voices on this, even on election night, talking about all this. So let's welcome in Steve now.
Guest Steve Dace's Perspective on Election Results and Conservative Response Strategies
And, I just want to give you the floor, Steve, and say you know, have at it. Your thoughts overall on, this blue tsunami, as it's now being called.
Steve Deace Well, good morning. Good, morning, Jenna. And first of all, I just want the audience to know, I mean, I woke up yesterday way more energized than I was the day before. And, I mean, I was up to the wee hours pouring over data Tuesday night and had to be up early Wednesday, to do the Glenn Beck show and tried to sleep in a little bit, and Holy Spirit woke me up at like 6am and just said, hey, you got to get up. Time to go. There's work to do. And I think the most important thing I'm going to say before we get into the data, particularly to an audience like this, is the way that here's how we can respond. We're going to discuss what's going on at the top of the conservative, right. And the Republican Party. But m. Many of us, myself included, you as well, even though we have significant platforms, really can't change what Donald Trump or the Republican Party is going to decide to do, but we can determine what we're going to do. And so we obviously cannot just roll over where the people of the stone is rolled away. So we're going to fight back. As Andrew Breitbart once said, war.
The Call to Action: Intensifying Personal and Community Efforts in Faith and Activism
But how do we fight? Well, here's what we're going to do, right? We're going to America harder. All right? We're going to go to church harder. We're going to pray harder. We're going to listen to the sermon harder. We're going to repent harder. If you're a preacher, you're going to preach harder. You're going to work harder. You're going to love your spouse and your kids harder. you're going to, tailgate this weekend harder. you're going to Thanksgiving harder. You're going to Christmas harder. You're going to activate as an activist harder. Right? Right. You're going to do everything that you were previously doing harder. And then you're going to pick maybe one hard thing you hadn't done before. Maybe you'd never run for school board or taken part in a local cause or volunteered, you know, for a charity or, you know, one of your conservative organizations or Christian organizations where you live. So you're going to do that hard thing, and you're going to do it harder than you were doing it before. So that's the first thing we have to do, all right? Accountability in the kingdom of God is inside out. It's not Outside. In.
Historical Comparisons of Midterm Elections: Watergate, 1974, and the Message of 1994
All right, Just because. Just because if the entire Sanhedrin, falls. All right, you're. You still are responsible. You're still responsible as a Jew to go to temple and make the sacrifices and follow the law. Nevertheless. All right, same thing happens here in the NewSong. As for NewSong. For NewSong Testament Christians. We're not beholden, you know, to the state of our institutions, but to the state of our own souls. And did we actually fulfill the time that we had, with what we could do and, so that we could hear one day, well done, good and faithful servant? So I want to. I want to make sure we start with that. And we're not whining and lamenting and complaining because we're all on the same team here, right? We're all on the same team. There's two teams here. There's, the left America, and then there's what's left of America. Those are the only two teams. There's not a third team. Those are the only two teams. And we all have a percentage on those two teams or we all have a position on those two teams. All right, now, one of my positions on those two. On those. On that. On that. On our team, is to analyze data and figure out what it says and tell the unvarnished truth about it, regardless of spin or whether friends of mine who are consultants will like it, or I'll get invited to the next Mar A Lago event. I haven't been invited on yet, in fact. All right, so that's my. That's one of my positions on the team. And what I can tell you is this. This is. This is. This is the most unique repudiation of a political figure and brand and maybe the history of American, midterm elections. it has. In its scale and breadth, it is Watergate, 1974. But remember, Richard Nixon was driven from office by then. he had resigned a few months before the election. and he had gas lines. The economy is not doing well right now. It is not. It is not the economy of the 1970s with price controls. People just figured out what inflation was in the 70s. They'd never heard the term before in their lives. We were worried about, remember, deflation and stagnation in the Great Depression. So, we had gas lines, Arab oil embargoes. Nixon was initiating price controls nationally. this is not the 70s. We were on the brink of a couple of years, some Jimmy Carter and misery indexes. My point being is there's not a singular organic galvanizing moment that would cause this level of turn. And so even though ITS scale is 1974, its message is really 1994.
Analyzing the 1994 Clinton-Gore Election Strategy and its Betrayal of Campaign Promises
And what you saw in 1994 coming out of 1992, Bill Clinton and Al Gore had run as white Southern Democrats. So they had kind of conservative coded there. They had Sister soldiered Jesse Jackson and the civil rights movement, pointing out that they, you know, that they supported all this gangster rap that was very anti American, like Public Enemy and Sister Soulja. And they're not a part of that. And that's not who this Democratic Party is. Al Gore was still Pro Life in 1992. They said it wasn't about social issues at all. It's, quote, just the, it's the economy, stupid. And they ran on this and the American people trusted them. They then turned around, raised taxes at a massive, what Rush called at the time, portcullis package, which was just a handout to labor unions and other left wing social, causes and, cultural groups. and then they attempted to just outright socialism with Hillary care and got absolutely annihilated and destroyed by the American people in the next midterm election for it. They betrayed what they had run on. That's what has happened here. there have been a lot of good things done by this administration. For example, 20% lower murder rate in major cities across the United States of America in two years. To do that, particularly when they're all run by Democrats who don't want to work with you, is extraordinary. What's happened at the border is extraordinary. There's a lot of extraordinary things. But the main things that formed the president's coalition in 24 that won in the election that they were hired to do, they have not done and frankly, barely attempted. All right, people wanted government accountability, they wanted swamp drainage, they wanted to see Epstein, clients. Remember how the President was asked about Epstein and the VP on all those major, podcasts. Theo Vaughan, Andrew Schultz, Joe Rogan, they all went on. A lot of young men thought they were voting to get accountability in the system that they were being asked to inherit that was rigged against them. Nothing happened. And in fact, one of the President's cabinet secretaries showed up as Howard Lutnick, as a prominent visitor, in fact, to Epstein island, even took his daughter there, according to some reports.
Critique of Trump's Promises: Affordability, Foreign Wars, and Broken Covenants with Voters
So, that's an X mark there. we not only didn't deal with affordability quickly enough, but in fact we gave people, a war that made all the affordability worse. So from a strategy standpoint it made it very hard for us to pivot and say, we need more time to fix this problem we inherited. When we did something that made the problem we were hired to fix worse comprehensively across the board. But here's the thing about that. The way we did it was the worst possible way. you know, in the 90s, in the 80s and 90s, you and I was. We were back then doing, what we're doing for a living. We would have said, if you can't trust Republicans to at least cut taxes, then what's the point of voting Republican, Right? The tagline of the 1988 presidential election is read my lips. No new taxes. I remember being, you know, just entering my teen years back then, and that became like a viral catchphrase. You know, we were using that. You know, you're playing basketball with your buddies on the court. Read my lips. I just. I just. I just drained that three on you. I mean, everybody was using me on T shirts. That thing went viral. All right. Then Bush turns right around in 1990 and signs the largest tax increase in American history, into law. And it led to a massive schism in the party. Newt, Gingrich led a. Newt Gingrich led a massive insurrection against the Republican leadership and establishment. And all this spilled over to 1992 in the Ross Perot insurgent, election, where, he was addressing many of those concerns.
The Rise of Conservative Media Personalities and Their Complaints About Unmet Promises
for a decade, the president's, maybe main tagline, other than build a wall has been, what? No more stupid foreign wars.
Jenna Ellis And
Steve Deace then he launched the stupidest of them all, one that had no clear goal, no clear mission from the beginning. I mean, well, of course we don't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon, but didn't we just show last year? We just bomb them and come home. Why are we doing this?
Jenna Ellis How
Steve Deace did this become a siege? So now we're blocking one end of the. Of one of the main oil pathways in the world, and Iran's blocking the other one. What is the point of this? It's making everything more expensive because obviously it requires fuel to transport everything that you would want to buy. and so he broke covenant, like Bush did with Republican voters in 1990. By breaking that pledge, the president broke a covenant with his base, and it has fueled the fury of the black pillars online. The reason why their audiences have grown is not because they're all that particularly entertaining. Frankly, if you watch Tucker's content now, it's nowhere near as good as what he was doing before. He's unhappy he's miserable. He projects nihilism. The likable, brilliant, you know, ability that, he has displayed for decades, it's not on parade anymore. if anything, I mean, the guy looks like he might even be demonically oppressed. The reason why they're gaining their audience, though, their solutions are all terrible. I mean, Tucker's essentially doing a podcast to sell nicotine patches to Arabs. That being said, their complaints aren't wrong. They might be extreme in the explanation, they might be over the top, but their complaints that we did not deliver on a government accountability, we did not deliver on affordability. We fought harder for ballrooms and for the Kennedy center honors than we did for Doge and debt reduction that would ease some of the inflation upon people. none of those. The reason they have drawn such audience is because the complaints they're dealing with are true. And so this is where we are and what you saw all over Tuesday night. And when I looked at.
Analyzing Texas Election Data: Voter Turnout, Party Shifts, and Generational Voting Patterns
I was studying Texas very, very closely because when I studied four, key early states in the early voting, Texas was the one I came away actually the most concerned about. One out of every five early voters in Texas had never voted in the last two primaries. And I thought, that's pretty obvious. Those people are young people coming out to vote for Talarico precisely because he wants to redefine, Christianity heretically, and so does much of that generation. So I followed the actual election day results county by county in Texas very well. And, here's the dirty little secret. Jenna and the vice president did allude to this. our voters turned out the voters in the Republican leaning areas. I, mean, there were higher turnouts there than in, 20, 24 levels. A significant chunk of our voters voted for Democrats. Our base was not demoralized. They switched sides.
Jenna Ellis Yeah,
Steve Deace and I'm not talking like 3, 4, 5%, more like 10 to 20% of Republican voters. You saw this in your state, Got a massive, yet massive election day turnout. the GOP has a massive voter registration advantage. It already returned to the state of Florida, already returned to pre DeSantis levels of margins prior to DeSantis presidential elections in Florida, the previous 30 years were decided by two and a half points. That's pretty much what a lot of your statewide races were decided by. So what we saw is a lot of the president's coalition flipped and switched for them. A massive swing. The two groups. There were three groups of people that won the president this last election. Generation X Uni's generation was the only Generation that voted for Trump, we did it for by 11 points. Boomers were next. They were tied in 20, in 2024.
Erosion of Trump's Coalition: Examining Voter Swings and the Base's Message to the President
But we were the only one massive switch there. young, young males. The president had performed better with them in 2024 than any Republican since the 1980s. Massive switch there. essentially everybody, ah, the coalition that Charlie, the faction that Charlie helped bring into the fold massively eroded and then went in the other direction, voting for the very party who actually hates them. and then Hispanic men. Trump won them overall by 10 points, in 2024. Massive swing there. What you saw here was our base wasn't demoralized and didn't stay home. Our people showed up and voted in the other direction. And there's a major credibility problem here that has to be addressed. And frankly, this isn't a party problem now. It is a Trump problem because he has, he is the party. everybody else is pretty much wiped out now. and he has the biggest microphone of everybody anyway. And so this is gonna, you know, this is almost as if we had a Watergate election, but Nixon was still in office and then has to, like, come back and figure out what to do. And that's what Trump's gonna have to do. and if he listens to the people, his base sent a massive, a massive message the other day. You are not the wave, sir. We are.
The Trump Factor: Legacy, Comebacks, and Avoiding a Repeat of Past Election Disasters
You're the boar. You ride us. And do not think, because for years we've kind of tolerated your excesses and indulgences to me, that you are the one barking the marching orders here. We did that because you were our fighter. You did what we wanted you to do. You disrupted the people trying to disrupt us. Almost like the base is saying, quote, kind of, almost in a Christ like revolution. Ah, Revelation 2 way. Go back to what you did before. Go back to what you did before. This is not it. And for the president yesterday to make his first press avail since this all happened, to show up at the, and of all places, the ballroom, construction is really almost just has to be seen as a purposeful screw you. And so somebody there, I mean, first of all, everybody in this audience, what's the thing you do? Pray for wisdom for this president. Okay, because he has come back before. Donald Trump's come back from literal shots to the face. Divorces, scandals, bank multiple bankruptcies. He's been finished, he's been broke many, many times since before a lot of the people listening to this were even born or politically aware. And the guy has Come back before we have to hope, because he's going to be president for two more years. And what you don't want is you don't want this to spill over like 06 did into 08, and this spills over into 28.
Lessons from Bush's Presidency and Strategies for Future Republican Success
And see, that's how we got Obama and that's how you get President aoc. And so what we need for him to do is not finished the way George W. Bush did. All right, where I'm, now next, the next thing after Bush suffered in 06, the next thing he did was fought his base over amnesty, fought his base over Harriet Myers. you know, suspended free market principles to save the free market. It ended with a 26% approval rating. So it wouldn't have mattered if we had nominated Moses in 2008. We were not going to win. All right, so we have to hope he doesn't do that, that he, you know, at age 80, he's got one more. I'm going to get back up off the mat, that he returns to being the consummate salesman and realizes this is not what people want to buy and sell them what they're willing to put what they want. If he does that, then in about six months. Because it won't take Democrats very long. I mean, I don't know what you think, but Hinda Joseph just sounds like a governor of Texas, doesn't it? Not so much. So what I'm thinking is it won't take Democrats very long for the dog to show that it still returns to its own vomit and that they're really here to destroy America. And, and he's got the bully pulpit that can get us all united again, can get us all back on message again, pushing back on them, and can create a functional, not, you know, a primary environment for his successor, or maybe even he'll have restored enough of his credibility that he could, he could select his successor and avoid a complete 20, 28 primary bloodbath in my home state of Iowa and everywhere else.
Jenna Ellis But
Steve Deace if that does not happen.
Jenna Ellis Yeah.
Steve Deace we'll spill over to the next cycle as well.
Pessimism on Trump's Next Election and the Challenges of Personality-Driven Voting
Like oh six did into oh eight and like 74 did into 76.
Jenna Ellis Yeah. And, you know, I really hope that the best case scenario happens and that that type of rallying is, is within Trump. But here, here's why I'm a little more pessimistic that that's going to happen, because the next election is not for Donald Trump. He's not going to be on the ballot. And so they're, they're the only incentive that, that he personally will have, which admittedly is a big one, if not his name on the ballot. The biggest incentive for him is going to be his legacy, because he does care about that. And I want to ask you a question though, Steve, before we have to go to break, with all of the data that you're showing of why and can we hold the break just a minute? thanks. So with all of the data that is showing all of our people, basically the people that Trump brought in and the people that you and I have been saying for a while haven't actually assimilated into conservatism. Right. They're here because of Trump and they have been because of Trump. And we have been talking about the problems with too big of a tent and, and the problems with just personality voting. I think we saw that came, come home to roost. And why, if you're voting for a personality, then when those same people get mad at that very personality, then they're going to go and vote the exact opposite just because they're mad at the personality. They're not values based voters. Right. So, so here's my question. I think that was predictable. But what happens to the Trump voters?
Re-Engaging Voters: Ballot Referendums, Conservative Populism, and Effective Messaging
Have we lost that segment be, permanently or does that segment really depend on what Trump does from here? How do, how do we convert
Steve Deace that? I don't think we've lost that segment permanently at all. and you can look at the ballot referendums around the country. I mean, Colorado and Washington voted against trannies. Washington state, Colorado, where they're going to arrest you for not transing your kid two years ago. All right, my home state of Iowa made it virtually impossible to raise taxes, income taxes in the state ever again, and did so by a larger margin than it elected Rob Sand, Democratic governor statewide. All right, so if you look at the Kansas, Kansas voted for its first Democrat senator since the NewSong Deal, but then also made it even more, more difficult for noncitizens to vote. So on the ground issues, those same voters were voting our way on issues all over the country. All over the country. So what it's going to take here, we took a generation off from discipleship in the church and from being an actual movement. And that's what Trump, that's how Trump was able to run up the middle and capture the party in the first place. What we're going to need is someone who can explain conservatism to the American people. You know what Rush really was? Rush's messaging was conservative populism. Go Back and read the original, NewSong York Times, review of the Way Things Ought to Be, one of the best selling nonfiction books in American history. And they basically said, this guy is inventing conservative populism. It was hard, conservative ideology, but it was messaged in a populist way. Comedy. It was accessible. We're going to need people who can do that, all right? People who have our values but can message in a populist way. That's what will be required moving forward in the future. And then when they win, they have to do at least something.
Party Dysfunction: Failure to Deliver Promises and the Need for Governing Cohesion
This party has not done anything. Most of the things that it promised to do as a party, collectively, when it gains full power in Washington in my lifetime. This happens every single time. We've got to figure out as a party how. Enough of the base and corporatists. Because, we are the party now. And that's. We are the, we are the. This is the. This is. This is the coalition. We gotta figure out some things that the base and the corporatists actually agree on that they want to do so we can actually govern when we win and look functional and competent as opposed to what you've watched for the last two years where they passed one piece of legislation that mattered in two years. And because they tried to throw everything in there all at once because they knew they couldn't function as a party, you know, holistically, for two years. That's pathetic. And we got to figure that out.
Looking Forward: Hope for Republican Victory and the Importance of Proactive Action
Jenna Ellis Yeah. So well said. And we've got to take a break here. But, Steve, you know, I really appreciate the, the get up and fight attitude. And we can take our break here. Adam, thanks. and to say that we have to actually look forward to the future and instead of just sitting back and saying, all right, well, all is lost and Texas has gone blue. And I've seen a lot of people saying, well, how can, Republicans even win a presidential election in the future? Well, we still can. And I think, there is a lot of hope, but it.
The Need for Open Communication and Action on Key Issues Affecting the Nation
But we need to actually get up and fight and to face things that I think a lot of these people who are just doing the quiet murmurings in the White House and saying, well, offline, you know, that the war wasn't greater. Offline, you know, affordability is actually an issue. But I'm not going to say that out loud. No, they needed to be saying that out loud, and the White House needed to be saying that out loud six months ago. And maybe this would have been a lot different because it's not just about the messaging, it's about the action. And we're going to talk about that more when we come back. But Steve, really appreciate it. Follow him on X. We'll be right back with more.
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Maximizing the Remaining Trifecta Power: Urgency for Congressional Action and Legislative Priorities
And as we are facing the question of what now and where do we go from here, one of the things that we still have is the trifecta until January. And so my advice to the Congress and to the Senate is not to all of the sudden pivot and look forward to 2028 and start making all kinds of, you know, deals with the Democrats who are coming into power. You guys still have three months. There is a lot of work to do and you know, maybe take off a couple of days at Christmas. But what Speaker Johnson and Leader Thune actually need to do is call Congress in and get every single thing passed and signed by the President that you possibly can and in the next three months pass the SAVE act, and do destroy the filibuster, do everything that you possibly can in order to push through, ah, legislation that should have been passed over the last two years but that Congress now has. There's absolutely zero reason to not just go for it and say, let's do everything we can while we still have the trifecta, because President Trump will sign that. And then if the Democrats want, to make, you know, some, some kinds of deals and all of that, they still don't have a veto proof majority outright in, in Congress. And that is a very good thing, because at least for the next two years, Donald Trump still, still wields the veto pen. And it's possible, and I think maybe even likely that on some issues, some of the establishment GOP are the people who will do the compromises and say, you know, we need to, to insulate ourselves from, you know, all of the drama. And also because, the establishment wants to get rid of Trump, they will make deals with the Democrats as well and they may join in a, an actual veto proof vote on at least some issues. And so, so who knows, I mean, that all of that is going to be in January. But for the next almost three months, we have an opportunity to get everything done that should have been done in the last two years. So that's the first step. And that is something that I hope that Speaker Johnson and Leader Thune are talking about and instead of just shrinking back, licking their wounds, doing the postmortems, all that, I mean, yes, that's important, but right now is the moment for action. So that's, that's step one.
The Christian's Role in Government: Obligation to Family, Church, and Upholding God-Given Rights
And we're going to talk in the next segment, about what that looks like on a couple of the state levels, and the states need to do that as well. But then the second thing, overall, and I alluded to this yesterday on the program, is that for Christians, regardless of who is in power, whether we have the most liberty possible, that we should under a legitimate government, or we have the least amount of liberty possible, and there's actual persecution like has happened in world history, you know, all of that. And that huge spectrum is why we engage in our government system. But none of that actually matters to our obligation and duty, first and foremost to our family and our church and those two institutions that God has ordained. Government exists in order to protect those two other institutions and to mete out justice in civil society, to promote good, restrain evil. But civil government is not the end goal in and of itself. We don't participate in politics for politics sake. And we can't forget that, because politics and who is president and who we support and the parties, we do not engage in that because being a Republican or being a conservative is the goal itself. We are conservatives or Republicans or independents or, you know, whatever, because of the policy that it leads to, and because of what legitimacy in government means. And so even if the political world is utterly chaotic or the worst happens, and we've been through some of the worst in our own lifetimes, I mean, the Cove era was a great example of an overreaching government that was absolutely not legitimate in a lot of ways. And we can't forget that very recent lesson that politics and government can be abusive. It can fall into the wrong hands. there can be a lot of times where it doesn't go in the way that it should. Not just our preferred outcomes, but an actually, conservative, legitimate operation and process. I mean, that's ultimately the goal of why Christians engage.
Reaffirming Christian Duty: The Great Commission, Church Commitment, and God-Given Liberties
And none of that changes our obligation, responsibility and duty as Christians to fulfill the Great Commission, to promote the truth of the gospel of Christ, to attend our churches, to raise our children in the fear and admonition of the Lord to have good relationships, to continue to study our Bible. I mean, I had my women's study last night and guess what? We didn't talk about the election because for what the purpose and the goal of what we were there for is to study God's word. And regardless of how the election went, that was going to happen. Right? So we need to still engage and be more in prayer, as Steve said, be more in church, be more committed to the things that God has for us. Not as an excuse to say, okay, well, you know, politics, we're just going to wash our hands of that, but to remember the place that it has and to remember why we engage in politics. It's so that we can have the freedom and liberty to do what we're doing right now without government interference or restrictions. I am, exercising my first freedom, speaking the truth publicly. Right? I'm exercising freedom of associations, freedom of speech and free exercise of religion. I am talking about my faith publicly. And in order to make sure that we can continue to do that, government has to be legitimate and has to protect those rights. But those rights don't come from government. They come from God, our Creator.
Examining Constitutional Processes: The 17th Amendment, Civic Education, and the Need for Reform
They are instilled in every one of us as human beings made in his image. We, we can't forget that. And then third, we have to take a very hard, serious look at generational wins and what the process looks like. Instead of every just single isolated election to election to election, maybe take a step back and say, what were some of the processes that maybe have. and let's hold the break here again. Sorry. so let's look at the processes of when, when some elections go our way, that's great. But then when some elections don't, then we see the fruit of perhaps some procedural decisions that we've made historically that haven't been the best. And I alluded to this yesterday and, and I loved this because Ross, ah, story and Right Wing Watch, who, you know, they, they published a story like almost weekly about me when, when I was working for Trump. And this was. The headline was laughing. Sorry. This actually made my day. This was hilarious. It said, MAGA Lawyer calls for Abolishing Senate Elections after big loss. Quote, people can be stupid now, you guys, I, I have peaked in my career because of that headline. It is so hilarious because clearly Raw Story does not understand the history of the U.S. constitution, has no clue about the 17th Amendment. And they actually admit that because they go on to actually have to quote Right Wing Watch and say Right Wing Watch reports that Senators were originally chosen by state legislatures until the 17th Amendment in 1913 moved to popular elections. They had to quote a secondary source in order to be like, oh, wait a minute. I think that, that we used to do this differently. And this, this just is a perfect example of why we need to be teaching civics, we need to be teaching American history, and we need to be questioning whether changing processes is a good thing and how we can do that constitutionally. And also the processes that we have changed in the past, has that been a good thing now? You know, some of the detractors who, who said, well, you know, look at why we changed that because there was a lot of corruption in state legislatures appointing senators. Yeah, well, no process is going to be perfect. This is why the founders said that our system is only built for a moral and upright society. it's wholly inadequate to, you know, to the governance of any other. I mean, it's only for moral and upright people. Right. they assumed and presumed not that people actually would be wholly virtuous, but that a virtuous people was actually needed in order for this process to work. And so sometimes in our, our scope of American history and our constitutional history, we have changed some of those processes to deal with some of either the corruption or the abuse of the process. But did we do that in a way that actually led to better outcomes for. And not. And I'm not just talking about party right, this isn't just about Republican or Democrat, but actually electing people who will, who will exercise the powers of government in the way that the Constitution intends and that our declaration intends by being a government of the people, by the people, for the people. Now I'm convinced that the Democrat socialists have absolutely no intention of exercising their office in a way that is, remotely legitimate. certainly not biblical, certainly not Christian, and more freedom and liberty for the people. They are avowed socialists. So we have to ask and answer the question on things like the 17th amendment, does that make sense today? even for the reasons in 1913, does that still make sense today? Or should we repeal that amendment? Should we look at our processes? Should we look at the US Constitution? Should we look at, the popular election, for example, of senators, should we look at how we elect certain offices? And not having term limits, for example, we can add that into the text of the Constitution. And I think that term limits. I'm with Governor DeSantis on that.
The Article 5 Convention of States Project: Reforming Processes for Long-Term Freedom and Liberty
And so this is why I have been an advocate for the Article 5 Convention of States Project For, I mean, this has been well over a decade now. And note, this was well before Trump appointed the Supreme Court justices that he did, and when everybody back prior to 2016 was talking about, well, how do we possibly reform the judiciary? There's no way we can ever get a conservative majority on the Supreme Court. Well, nobody saw Donald Trump coming, right? And so then when Trump won and he actually appointed, justices that, you know, at least are arguably, ah, better than, than what, you know, Hillary Clinton would have appointed, then suddenly everybody's fine with the processes, right? So we're fine with the processes if it works to the outcomes we prefer. But then we're not so much once the other party gets into power, right? And that's not how the processes should work. We should have safeguards to make sure that freedom and liberty is protected, regardless of who is in office, and that the best possible outcome, while we may not have the most virtuous people, the best possible outcome is achieved in the way that actually facilitates what the US Constitution originally provided for. And when we're talking about the Senate with, you know, with, I would say, all due respect to roster, but I don't respect them at all. So with lack of respect to Raw Story, the point of the US Senate was that that deliberative body would represent the state's interest. That's why the state legislatures would appoint, and could recall their senators. That's why they have longer terms. That's why advice of consent and consent of the Senate for things like judicial nominations goes through the Senate, not the House. The House is supposed to represent the people, be popularly elected, and then the Senate is supposed to represent the states. The states right now have virtually no voice in Washington. We forget we have a federalist system. So all of this to say, and we can take the break here. all of this to say. We need to analyze our processes. We need to know American history. We need to know from whence we have come. We also need to know what we are going to do in the future. And so we need to act now. And you can start the music, act now.
Taking Back the Country: Contemplating Processes Beyond the Ballot Box for a More Perfect Union
And we also need to make sure that we are not changing our biblical worldview of what we do as Christians. And we also need to make sure that for the future our processes are questioned and what we do with our US Constitution and how we create a more perfect union. We can look to history, we can look to the changes that have been made, question those and the changes that haven't been made and say, maybe we should add things like Term limits, balanced budget, judicial reform. Those are the three issues for a Convention of States. Article 5 petition that needs to go through 2/3 of the states in order to call a convention of the states and then be approved by the legislatures of three fourths. And we can, we can take back our country. But it's not just through the ballot box and waiting election to election to election. We have to contemplate our processes as well. And we will be right back with more.
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Texas Political Action: Restoring Separation of Powers and Recalling Rogue U.S. Senators
Jenna Ellis Welcome back. Well, as we've been talking about what happens now? Well, on the state level, Representative Brian Harrison out of Texas is saying we still have total power in Texas and we must act like it, by using the remaining 10 weeks to restore the separation of powers and limit the emergency powers that their governor elect is set to inherit. That would allow her to destroy liberty in Texas by executive fiat. So he's called on governor Abbott to immediately convene a special session to rein in executive emergency powers. He also filed House Bill 1267 to authorize the Texas legislature to recall U.S. senators if they go rogue. Speaking of the 17th amendment, he said our founders intended U.S. senators who represent the interests of the sovereign states and safeguard against federal overreach. Unfortunately, since the 17th Amendment, many have become beholden to D.C. special interests and complicit in the erosion of liberty and acceleration of America's move to a post constitutional era where unelected bureaucrats write and enforce law by edict. We must empower Texans to ensure our U.S. senators serve the best interests of the state of Texas. So Brian Harrison joins me now and two great proposals. I, have no doubt that Ross, ah story is about to, to to accuse you of wanting to cancel elections in Texas because they have no idea about the 17th Amendment. But good, morning, Brian.
Brian Harrison Good morning, Jim. No, I was so excited when I dialed in and your producer put your, radio show into my ear here and hear you. I was so excited. I rarely get to hear national media, talk show host talk about something so obscure as the 17th amendment. So I sent you that bill that I filed a couple of years ago because I, you know, our founders, I think, knew what they were doing. They did not create two houses of Representatives on purpose. They wanted the power, with the people and with the states. And the states for far too long have taken this usurpation of power lying down.
Limiting Executive Powers in Texas: Addressing Governor Abbott's Authority and Legislative Action
Anyway, I know that's not what I'm on here to talk to you about, but I was so excited to hear you railing against the 17th amendment. We need to make the 17th amendment hated again.
Jenna Ellis Amen to that. Absolutely. And and we also need to make executive powers limited so that we don't have the overreach. And that's what, your main proposal now in Texas. And like I was saying in the last segment, I mean, there is still time while Republicans have control to get through things done. So what should Texas be doing?
Brian Harrison Well, yeah, and I'm having to remind Governor Greg Abbott, you know, who was defeated after asking voters to give him 16 years in office, which is its own problem. But, hey, Governor, the Democrat. The Democrats might have won elections two nights ago, but they weren't inaugurated two nights ago. And Governor Abbott is still the governor of the state of Texas. You know, the legislature didn't change, yet we still control Republicans, still control all of the branches of government in Texas and the constitution of our state and the people, more importantly of our state, expect us to do our jobs and not take our ball and go home. So what I have asking Governor Abbott to do, there's lots of things we should have done in special session, tons of failures by the liberal elected uniparty Republican leadership in Texas. I don't have time to go into all that, or even demand that he fix all those things right now.
Restoring Constitutional Separation of Powers in Texas: The Governor's Dictatorial Emergency Powers
Although he probably should like property taxes. That's a whole other thing. If we're going to do one thing, we've got to restore the constitutional separation of power. Because people are shocked to learn that in Texas under our emergency powers law, which I think is unconstitutional, the governor literally has all the powers of a dictator. The governor can write laws, he can delete laws, he can edit laws, he can. I'm not making this up. The governor of Texas can create a criminal law and then prosecute somebody for violating the criminal law that he wrote by executive action. That is a, violent. It turns separation of powers on its head and it renders the people, because they're represented by the legislature, it renders them powerless. And why in the world. It's obscene that Greg Abbott has had these powers. And by the way, I filed this bill four years ago when Greg Abbott was reelected. So this is not partisan. But we should not let now the Democrats have taken over Texas and Texas has turned blue the government anyway, we should not allow this unconstitutional emergency executive powers that will hand Governor, Democrat governor Gina Hinojosa all the powers of a dictator and make it super way too easy for her to destroy freedom and individual liberty in the state of Texas. She could single handedly waive our abortion laws. I'm serious. She could undo our pro life laws, she could undo our freedoms to carry guns in the second amendment in the state of Texas. She could do that by executive fiat. We are derelict in our duty if we do not use the next 10 weeks that the Constitution gives us to do everything we can to protect liberty and limit the damage that the Democrats can do to the state of Texas over the next four years.
Jenna Ellis You know, why would states like Texas especially, I mean I get California, NewSong York that want dictators, but why would Texas have granted the, that ridiculous of an extent of emergency powers to begin with?
Brian Harrison It's a great question and I don't know. And it actually goes back, I want to say to the 1970s or 1980s that these obscene and I think facially unconstitutional laws are on the books. Because you know, when people think of executive action they kind of think like, well, okay, the president can direct executive agencies or maybe he can change his own regulations. Well, not in Texas. The ridiculous law gives the governor all of the power of the legislature when we're in a state emergency.
Urgent Need to Limit Texas Governor's Emergency Powers: Protecting Liberty from Executive Fiat
And guess who gets to determine whether we're in a state of emergency? The governor. So quite literally, this is not exaggeration. First of all, tell you, this is not just academic. First of All Governor Abbott has used and abused these powers. And during COVID people forget this. actually, one of my colleagues now in the legislature, she was sent to jail, during Cove for violating a law that no legislature passed. And get this, Governor Hinojosa, right after she was elected, she immediately went public and promised that on her first day in office, she is going to use these unconstitutional powers to start meddling in our electricity markets here in the state of Texas. And I think that's just the start. But quite literally, nothing would stop her from saying, you know what, carbon emissions are a public health threat, and I'm going to limit, oil and gas production and refineries, or, you know what? Abortion is a public health crisis. I'm going to declare an emergency and waive by executive order Texas pro life protections that are there to protect unborn Texans. this is not exaggeration. This is not hyperbole. That's how high the stakes are. And I'm sorry. it's absolutely indefensible for Republicans who pretend on the campaign trail for the last year that they care about conservative values, they care about limited government, they care about the Constitution, which requires separation of powers, to sit around crying, sobbing in a corner, taking their ball and going home when we could be acting and protecting Texans for the next 10 weeks. It's indefensible if Governor Abbott does not do this.
Jenna Ellis Yeah, 100%. And so what do you think is the likelihood that Republicans, and Abbott will actually get it together and accomplish this?
Likelihood of Limiting Executive Powers in Texas: Historical Precedent and Governor Abbott's Record
Brian Harrison Well, unfortunately, if history is any guide not, good. and I want to repeat something I said a second ago, because people are accusing me of being hyper partisan and, oh, you know, powers for the, but not for me kind of thing. No, I first filed this legislation exactly four years ago, right after Greg Abbott was reelected. Okay? So I'm going to be really clear about that. Okay? I'm an equal opportunity offender when it comes to people who violate separation of powers. But I don't know if Governor Abbott's going to do this because Governor Abbott has had countless opportunities and every time a bill to even tweak or slightly limit emergency executive powers, the corrupt, fake Republican uniparty establishment in the Texas government has, stopped and thwarted, those pieces of legislation, mine included. And the governor has, basically opposed efforts to limit his. His powers. So unfortunately, history. If history isn't a guy, the odds aren't good. Governor Greg Abbott has never wanted to do the right thing on this. And quite frankly, Governor Greg Abbott has been A massive and profound disappointment. And I think his weakness and his failure to deliver core Republican values like lower taxes contributed to the bloodbath we saw two nights ago.
Activism and Petitioning for Change: Forcing Conservative Action Despite Leadership Opposition in Texas
But, you know, I just launched a petition. Just put it on my social media feed on X at Brian E. Harrison, if people want to see it says, look, I have managed, as you know, Jenna, we've covered it a lot. You know, from getting the president of Texas A and M fired or stopping Texas, from registering illegal alien vehicles. We have been able to, the people have been able to force conservative things through the Texas government even when the leadership hasn't wanted to. And I'm hoping we can do that one more time here before the Democrats take over.
Jenna Ellis I hope so, too. And maybe, just maybe, even if Abbott wasn't willing to limit it for himself, he'll recognize that it needs, needs to be limited. And so he'll be willing to do it on the way out, you know, for the future of Texas. But Brian Harrison, I really appreciate your, stakes in the fight and for continuing to fight for Texas. so much more that can be said.
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Jenna Ellis I love talking about the things of God. Because of truth and the biblical worldview, the U.S. constitution obligates our government to preserve and protect the rights that our founders recognize come from God, our creator, not our government. I believe that scripture in the Bible is very clear that God is the one that raised up each of you, and God has allowed us to be brought here to this specific moment in time.
Post-Midterm Election Analysis: Examining GOP's Future and Lessons from the Trump Era
Jenna Ellis This is Jenna Ellis in the Morning.
Jenna Ellis Good morning. It is Thursday, November 5, and the country is still reeling from the aftermath of the absolute bloodbath of the midterms, the elections. And there have been a lot of, postmortems and analyses. And the question, of course, beyond what happened. And I think it's pretty obvious, and even the vice president admitted that in a, an X post yesterday that, the war in Iran was a big deal, but also just not keeping your promises, that is actually a big deal. Not paying attention to what the voters want, that is a big deal. And so it's pretty clear at least as to what happened. But the question remains is where will the GOP go from here? Will they be smart enough to learn this lesson? Will they blame the consultants, blame what was obvious, blame everybody except themselves, or will they actually take a really close, hard look at not, only the lessons from this election, but literally the whole Trump era, and then also what came before, why Trump was actually so popular and won in 2016, when the GOP certainly didn't want to nominate him. And so can, can we learn from history, or are we doomed to repeat it? And I think where we go from here will tell us, the story of whether we actually can survive, in this country as a more perfect union and as a Christian nation. And where we go from here. And so our good friend Steve Dace, host at the Blaze, has been one of the most prolific voices on this, even on election night, talking about all this. So let's welcome in Steve now.
Guest Steve Dace's Perspective on Election Results and Conservative Response Strategies
And, I just want to give you the floor, Steve, and say you know, have at it. Your thoughts overall on, this blue tsunami, as it's now being called.
Steve Deace Well, good morning. Good, morning, Jenna. And first of all, I just want the audience to know, I mean, I woke up yesterday way more energized than I was the day before. And, I mean, I was up to the wee hours pouring over data Tuesday night and had to be up early Wednesday, to do the Glenn Beck show and tried to sleep in a little bit, and Holy Spirit woke me up at like 6am and just said, hey, you got to get up. Time to go. There's work to do. And I think the most important thing I'm going to say before we get into the data, particularly to an audience like this, is the way that here's how we can respond. We're going to discuss what's going on at the top of the conservative, right. And the Republican Party. But m. Many of us, myself included, you as well, even though we have significant platforms, really can't change what Donald Trump or the Republican Party is going to decide to do, but we can determine what we're going to do. And so we obviously cannot just roll over where the people of the stone is rolled away. So we're going to fight back. As Andrew Breitbart once said, war.
The Call to Action: Intensifying Personal and Community Efforts in Faith and Activism
But how do we fight? Well, here's what we're going to do, right? We're going to America harder. All right? We're going to go to church harder. We're going to pray harder. We're going to listen to the sermon harder. We're going to repent harder. If you're a preacher, you're going to preach harder. You're going to work harder. You're going to love your spouse and your kids harder. you're going to, tailgate this weekend harder. you're going to Thanksgiving harder. You're going to Christmas harder. You're going to activate as an activist harder. Right? Right. You're going to do everything that you were previously doing harder. And then you're going to pick maybe one hard thing you hadn't done before. Maybe you'd never run for school board or taken part in a local cause or volunteered, you know, for a charity or, you know, one of your conservative organizations or Christian organizations where you live. So you're going to do that hard thing, and you're going to do it harder than you were doing it before. So that's the first thing we have to do, all right? Accountability in the kingdom of God is inside out. It's not Outside. In.
Historical Comparisons of Midterm Elections: Watergate, 1974, and the Message of 1994
All right, Just because. Just because if the entire Sanhedrin, falls. All right, you're. You still are responsible. You're still responsible as a Jew to go to temple and make the sacrifices and follow the law. Nevertheless. All right, same thing happens here in the NewSong. As for NewSong. For NewSong Testament Christians. We're not beholden, you know, to the state of our institutions, but to the state of our own souls. And did we actually fulfill the time that we had, with what we could do and, so that we could hear one day, well done, good and faithful servant? So I want to. I want to make sure we start with that. And we're not whining and lamenting and complaining because we're all on the same team here, right? We're all on the same team. There's two teams here. There's, the left America, and then there's what's left of America. Those are the only two teams. There's not a third team. Those are the only two teams. And we all have a percentage on those two teams or we all have a position on those two teams. All right, now, one of my positions on those two. On those. On that. On that. On our team, is to analyze data and figure out what it says and tell the unvarnished truth about it, regardless of spin or whether friends of mine who are consultants will like it, or I'll get invited to the next Mar A Lago event. I haven't been invited on yet, in fact. All right, so that's my. That's one of my positions on the team. And what I can tell you is this. This is. This is. This is the most unique repudiation of a political figure and brand and maybe the history of American, midterm elections. it has. In its scale and breadth, it is Watergate, 1974. But remember, Richard Nixon was driven from office by then. he had resigned a few months before the election. and he had gas lines. The economy is not doing well right now. It is not. It is not the economy of the 1970s with price controls. People just figured out what inflation was in the 70s. They'd never heard the term before in their lives. We were worried about, remember, deflation and stagnation in the Great Depression. So, we had gas lines, Arab oil embargoes. Nixon was initiating price controls nationally. this is not the 70s. We were on the brink of a couple of years, some Jimmy Carter and misery indexes. My point being is there's not a singular organic galvanizing moment that would cause this level of turn. And so even though ITS scale is 1974, its message is really 1994.
Analyzing the 1994 Clinton-Gore Election Strategy and its Betrayal of Campaign Promises
And what you saw in 1994 coming out of 1992, Bill Clinton and Al Gore had run as white Southern Democrats. So they had kind of conservative coded there. They had Sister soldiered Jesse Jackson and the civil rights movement, pointing out that they, you know, that they supported all this gangster rap that was very anti American, like Public Enemy and Sister Soulja. And they're not a part of that. And that's not who this Democratic Party is. Al Gore was still Pro Life in 1992. They said it wasn't about social issues at all. It's, quote, just the, it's the economy, stupid. And they ran on this and the American people trusted them. They then turned around, raised taxes at a massive, what Rush called at the time, portcullis package, which was just a handout to labor unions and other left wing social, causes and, cultural groups. and then they attempted to just outright socialism with Hillary care and got absolutely annihilated and destroyed by the American people in the next midterm election for it. They betrayed what they had run on. That's what has happened here. there have been a lot of good things done by this administration. For example, 20% lower murder rate in major cities across the United States of America in two years. To do that, particularly when they're all run by Democrats who don't want to work with you, is extraordinary. What's happened at the border is extraordinary. There's a lot of extraordinary things. But the main things that formed the president's coalition in 24 that won in the election that they were hired to do, they have not done and frankly, barely attempted. All right, people wanted government accountability, they wanted swamp drainage, they wanted to see Epstein, clients. Remember how the President was asked about Epstein and the VP on all those major, podcasts. Theo Vaughan, Andrew Schultz, Joe Rogan, they all went on. A lot of young men thought they were voting to get accountability in the system that they were being asked to inherit that was rigged against them. Nothing happened. And in fact, one of the President's cabinet secretaries showed up as Howard Lutnick, as a prominent visitor, in fact, to Epstein island, even took his daughter there, according to some reports.
Critique of Trump's Promises: Affordability, Foreign Wars, and Broken Covenants with Voters
So, that's an X mark there. we not only didn't deal with affordability quickly enough, but in fact we gave people, a war that made all the affordability worse. So from a strategy standpoint it made it very hard for us to pivot and say, we need more time to fix this problem we inherited. When we did something that made the problem we were hired to fix worse comprehensively across the board. But here's the thing about that. The way we did it was the worst possible way. you know, in the 90s, in the 80s and 90s, you and I was. We were back then doing, what we're doing for a living. We would have said, if you can't trust Republicans to at least cut taxes, then what's the point of voting Republican, Right? The tagline of the 1988 presidential election is read my lips. No new taxes. I remember being, you know, just entering my teen years back then, and that became like a viral catchphrase. You know, we were using that. You know, you're playing basketball with your buddies on the court. Read my lips. I just. I just. I just drained that three on you. I mean, everybody was using me on T shirts. That thing went viral. All right. Then Bush turns right around in 1990 and signs the largest tax increase in American history, into law. And it led to a massive schism in the party. Newt, Gingrich led a. Newt Gingrich led a massive insurrection against the Republican leadership and establishment. And all this spilled over to 1992 in the Ross Perot insurgent, election, where, he was addressing many of those concerns.
The Rise of Conservative Media Personalities and Their Complaints About Unmet Promises
for a decade, the president's, maybe main tagline, other than build a wall has been, what? No more stupid foreign wars.
Jenna Ellis And
Steve Deace then he launched the stupidest of them all, one that had no clear goal, no clear mission from the beginning. I mean, well, of course we don't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon, but didn't we just show last year? We just bomb them and come home. Why are we doing this?
Jenna Ellis How
Steve Deace did this become a siege? So now we're blocking one end of the. Of one of the main oil pathways in the world, and Iran's blocking the other one. What is the point of this? It's making everything more expensive because obviously it requires fuel to transport everything that you would want to buy. and so he broke covenant, like Bush did with Republican voters in 1990. By breaking that pledge, the president broke a covenant with his base, and it has fueled the fury of the black pillars online. The reason why their audiences have grown is not because they're all that particularly entertaining. Frankly, if you watch Tucker's content now, it's nowhere near as good as what he was doing before. He's unhappy he's miserable. He projects nihilism. The likable, brilliant, you know, ability that, he has displayed for decades, it's not on parade anymore. if anything, I mean, the guy looks like he might even be demonically oppressed. The reason why they're gaining their audience, though, their solutions are all terrible. I mean, Tucker's essentially doing a podcast to sell nicotine patches to Arabs. That being said, their complaints aren't wrong. They might be extreme in the explanation, they might be over the top, but their complaints that we did not deliver on a government accountability, we did not deliver on affordability. We fought harder for ballrooms and for the Kennedy center honors than we did for Doge and debt reduction that would ease some of the inflation upon people. none of those. The reason they have drawn such audience is because the complaints they're dealing with are true. And so this is where we are and what you saw all over Tuesday night. And when I looked at.
Analyzing Texas Election Data: Voter Turnout, Party Shifts, and Generational Voting Patterns
I was studying Texas very, very closely because when I studied four, key early states in the early voting, Texas was the one I came away actually the most concerned about. One out of every five early voters in Texas had never voted in the last two primaries. And I thought, that's pretty obvious. Those people are young people coming out to vote for Talarico precisely because he wants to redefine, Christianity heretically, and so does much of that generation. So I followed the actual election day results county by county in Texas very well. And, here's the dirty little secret. Jenna and the vice president did allude to this. our voters turned out the voters in the Republican leaning areas. I, mean, there were higher turnouts there than in, 20, 24 levels. A significant chunk of our voters voted for Democrats. Our base was not demoralized. They switched sides.
Jenna Ellis Yeah,
Steve Deace and I'm not talking like 3, 4, 5%, more like 10 to 20% of Republican voters. You saw this in your state, Got a massive, yet massive election day turnout. the GOP has a massive voter registration advantage. It already returned to the state of Florida, already returned to pre DeSantis levels of margins prior to DeSantis presidential elections in Florida, the previous 30 years were decided by two and a half points. That's pretty much what a lot of your statewide races were decided by. So what we saw is a lot of the president's coalition flipped and switched for them. A massive swing. The two groups. There were three groups of people that won the president this last election. Generation X Uni's generation was the only Generation that voted for Trump, we did it for by 11 points. Boomers were next. They were tied in 20, in 2024.
Erosion of Trump's Coalition: Examining Voter Swings and the Base's Message to the President
But we were the only one massive switch there. young, young males. The president had performed better with them in 2024 than any Republican since the 1980s. Massive switch there. essentially everybody, ah, the coalition that Charlie, the faction that Charlie helped bring into the fold massively eroded and then went in the other direction, voting for the very party who actually hates them. and then Hispanic men. Trump won them overall by 10 points, in 2024. Massive swing there. What you saw here was our base wasn't demoralized and didn't stay home. Our people showed up and voted in the other direction. And there's a major credibility problem here that has to be addressed. And frankly, this isn't a party problem now. It is a Trump problem because he has, he is the party. everybody else is pretty much wiped out now. and he has the biggest microphone of everybody anyway. And so this is gonna, you know, this is almost as if we had a Watergate election, but Nixon was still in office and then has to, like, come back and figure out what to do. And that's what Trump's gonna have to do. and if he listens to the people, his base sent a massive, a massive message the other day. You are not the wave, sir. We are.
The Trump Factor: Legacy, Comebacks, and Avoiding a Repeat of Past Election Disasters
You're the boar. You ride us. And do not think, because for years we've kind of tolerated your excesses and indulgences to me, that you are the one barking the marching orders here. We did that because you were our fighter. You did what we wanted you to do. You disrupted the people trying to disrupt us. Almost like the base is saying, quote, kind of, almost in a Christ like revolution. Ah, Revelation 2 way. Go back to what you did before. Go back to what you did before. This is not it. And for the president yesterday to make his first press avail since this all happened, to show up at the, and of all places, the ballroom, construction is really almost just has to be seen as a purposeful screw you. And so somebody there, I mean, first of all, everybody in this audience, what's the thing you do? Pray for wisdom for this president. Okay, because he has come back before. Donald Trump's come back from literal shots to the face. Divorces, scandals, bank multiple bankruptcies. He's been finished, he's been broke many, many times since before a lot of the people listening to this were even born or politically aware. And the guy has Come back before we have to hope, because he's going to be president for two more years. And what you don't want is you don't want this to spill over like 06 did into 08, and this spills over into 28.
Lessons from Bush's Presidency and Strategies for Future Republican Success
And see, that's how we got Obama and that's how you get President aoc. And so what we need for him to do is not finished the way George W. Bush did. All right, where I'm, now next, the next thing after Bush suffered in 06, the next thing he did was fought his base over amnesty, fought his base over Harriet Myers. you know, suspended free market principles to save the free market. It ended with a 26% approval rating. So it wouldn't have mattered if we had nominated Moses in 2008. We were not going to win. All right, so we have to hope he doesn't do that, that he, you know, at age 80, he's got one more. I'm going to get back up off the mat, that he returns to being the consummate salesman and realizes this is not what people want to buy and sell them what they're willing to put what they want. If he does that, then in about six months. Because it won't take Democrats very long. I mean, I don't know what you think, but Hinda Joseph just sounds like a governor of Texas, doesn't it? Not so much. So what I'm thinking is it won't take Democrats very long for the dog to show that it still returns to its own vomit and that they're really here to destroy America. And, and he's got the bully pulpit that can get us all united again, can get us all back on message again, pushing back on them, and can create a functional, not, you know, a primary environment for his successor, or maybe even he'll have restored enough of his credibility that he could, he could select his successor and avoid a complete 20, 28 primary bloodbath in my home state of Iowa and everywhere else.
Jenna Ellis But
Steve Deace if that does not happen.
Jenna Ellis Yeah.
Steve Deace we'll spill over to the next cycle as well.
Pessimism on Trump's Next Election and the Challenges of Personality-Driven Voting
Like oh six did into oh eight and like 74 did into 76.
Jenna Ellis Yeah. And, you know, I really hope that the best case scenario happens and that that type of rallying is, is within Trump. But here, here's why I'm a little more pessimistic that that's going to happen, because the next election is not for Donald Trump. He's not going to be on the ballot. And so they're, they're the only incentive that, that he personally will have, which admittedly is a big one, if not his name on the ballot. The biggest incentive for him is going to be his legacy, because he does care about that. And I want to ask you a question though, Steve, before we have to go to break, with all of the data that you're showing of why and can we hold the break just a minute? thanks. So with all of the data that is showing all of our people, basically the people that Trump brought in and the people that you and I have been saying for a while haven't actually assimilated into conservatism. Right. They're here because of Trump and they have been because of Trump. And we have been talking about the problems with too big of a tent and, and the problems with just personality voting. I think we saw that came, come home to roost. And why, if you're voting for a personality, then when those same people get mad at that very personality, then they're going to go and vote the exact opposite just because they're mad at the personality. They're not values based voters. Right. So, so here's my question. I think that was predictable. But what happens to the Trump voters?
Re-Engaging Voters: Ballot Referendums, Conservative Populism, and Effective Messaging
Have we lost that segment be, permanently or does that segment really depend on what Trump does from here? How do, how do we convert
Steve Deace that? I don't think we've lost that segment permanently at all. and you can look at the ballot referendums around the country. I mean, Colorado and Washington voted against trannies. Washington state, Colorado, where they're going to arrest you for not transing your kid two years ago. All right, my home state of Iowa made it virtually impossible to raise taxes, income taxes in the state ever again, and did so by a larger margin than it elected Rob Sand, Democratic governor statewide. All right, so if you look at the Kansas, Kansas voted for its first Democrat senator since the NewSong Deal, but then also made it even more, more difficult for noncitizens to vote. So on the ground issues, those same voters were voting our way on issues all over the country. All over the country. So what it's going to take here, we took a generation off from discipleship in the church and from being an actual movement. And that's what Trump, that's how Trump was able to run up the middle and capture the party in the first place. What we're going to need is someone who can explain conservatism to the American people. You know what Rush really was? Rush's messaging was conservative populism. Go Back and read the original, NewSong York Times, review of the Way Things Ought to Be, one of the best selling nonfiction books in American history. And they basically said, this guy is inventing conservative populism. It was hard, conservative ideology, but it was messaged in a populist way. Comedy. It was accessible. We're going to need people who can do that, all right? People who have our values but can message in a populist way. That's what will be required moving forward in the future. And then when they win, they have to do at least something.
Party Dysfunction: Failure to Deliver Promises and the Need for Governing Cohesion
This party has not done anything. Most of the things that it promised to do as a party, collectively, when it gains full power in Washington in my lifetime. This happens every single time. We've got to figure out as a party how. Enough of the base and corporatists. Because, we are the party now. And that's. We are the, we are the. This is the. This is. This is the coalition. We gotta figure out some things that the base and the corporatists actually agree on that they want to do so we can actually govern when we win and look functional and competent as opposed to what you've watched for the last two years where they passed one piece of legislation that mattered in two years. And because they tried to throw everything in there all at once because they knew they couldn't function as a party, you know, holistically, for two years. That's pathetic. And we got to figure that out.
Looking Forward: Hope for Republican Victory and the Importance of Proactive Action
Jenna Ellis Yeah. So well said. And we've got to take a break here. But, Steve, you know, I really appreciate the, the get up and fight attitude. And we can take our break here. Adam, thanks. and to say that we have to actually look forward to the future and instead of just sitting back and saying, all right, well, all is lost and Texas has gone blue. And I've seen a lot of people saying, well, how can, Republicans even win a presidential election in the future? Well, we still can. And I think, there is a lot of hope, but it.
The Need for Open Communication and Action on Key Issues Affecting the Nation
But we need to actually get up and fight and to face things that I think a lot of these people who are just doing the quiet murmurings in the White House and saying, well, offline, you know, that the war wasn't greater. Offline, you know, affordability is actually an issue. But I'm not going to say that out loud. No, they needed to be saying that out loud, and the White House needed to be saying that out loud six months ago. And maybe this would have been a lot different because it's not just about the messaging, it's about the action. And we're going to talk about that more when we come back. But Steve, really appreciate it. Follow him on X. We'll be right back with more.
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Maximizing the Remaining Trifecta Power: Urgency for Congressional Action and Legislative Priorities
And as we are facing the question of what now and where do we go from here, one of the things that we still have is the trifecta until January. And so my advice to the Congress and to the Senate is not to all of the sudden pivot and look forward to 2028 and start making all kinds of, you know, deals with the Democrats who are coming into power. You guys still have three months. There is a lot of work to do and you know, maybe take off a couple of days at Christmas. But what Speaker Johnson and Leader Thune actually need to do is call Congress in and get every single thing passed and signed by the President that you possibly can and in the next three months pass the SAVE act, and do destroy the filibuster, do everything that you possibly can in order to push through, ah, legislation that should have been passed over the last two years but that Congress now has. There's absolutely zero reason to not just go for it and say, let's do everything we can while we still have the trifecta, because President Trump will sign that. And then if the Democrats want, to make, you know, some, some kinds of deals and all of that, they still don't have a veto proof majority outright in, in Congress. And that is a very good thing, because at least for the next two years, Donald Trump still, still wields the veto pen. And it's possible, and I think maybe even likely that on some issues, some of the establishment GOP are the people who will do the compromises and say, you know, we need to, to insulate ourselves from, you know, all of the drama. And also because, the establishment wants to get rid of Trump, they will make deals with the Democrats as well and they may join in a, an actual veto proof vote on at least some issues. And so, so who knows, I mean, that all of that is going to be in January. But for the next almost three months, we have an opportunity to get everything done that should have been done in the last two years. So that's the first step. And that is something that I hope that Speaker Johnson and Leader Thune are talking about and instead of just shrinking back, licking their wounds, doing the postmortems, all that, I mean, yes, that's important, but right now is the moment for action. So that's, that's step one.
The Christian's Role in Government: Obligation to Family, Church, and Upholding God-Given Rights
And we're going to talk in the next segment, about what that looks like on a couple of the state levels, and the states need to do that as well. But then the second thing, overall, and I alluded to this yesterday on the program, is that for Christians, regardless of who is in power, whether we have the most liberty possible, that we should under a legitimate government, or we have the least amount of liberty possible, and there's actual persecution like has happened in world history, you know, all of that. And that huge spectrum is why we engage in our government system. But none of that actually matters to our obligation and duty, first and foremost to our family and our church and those two institutions that God has ordained. Government exists in order to protect those two other institutions and to mete out justice in civil society, to promote good, restrain evil. But civil government is not the end goal in and of itself. We don't participate in politics for politics sake. And we can't forget that, because politics and who is president and who we support and the parties, we do not engage in that because being a Republican or being a conservative is the goal itself. We are conservatives or Republicans or independents or, you know, whatever, because of the policy that it leads to, and because of what legitimacy in government means. And so even if the political world is utterly chaotic or the worst happens, and we've been through some of the worst in our own lifetimes, I mean, the Cove era was a great example of an overreaching government that was absolutely not legitimate in a lot of ways. And we can't forget that very recent lesson that politics and government can be abusive. It can fall into the wrong hands. there can be a lot of times where it doesn't go in the way that it should. Not just our preferred outcomes, but an actually, conservative, legitimate operation and process. I mean, that's ultimately the goal of why Christians engage.
Reaffirming Christian Duty: The Great Commission, Church Commitment, and God-Given Liberties
And none of that changes our obligation, responsibility and duty as Christians to fulfill the Great Commission, to promote the truth of the gospel of Christ, to attend our churches, to raise our children in the fear and admonition of the Lord to have good relationships, to continue to study our Bible. I mean, I had my women's study last night and guess what? We didn't talk about the election because for what the purpose and the goal of what we were there for is to study God's word. And regardless of how the election went, that was going to happen. Right? So we need to still engage and be more in prayer, as Steve said, be more in church, be more committed to the things that God has for us. Not as an excuse to say, okay, well, you know, politics, we're just going to wash our hands of that, but to remember the place that it has and to remember why we engage in politics. It's so that we can have the freedom and liberty to do what we're doing right now without government interference or restrictions. I am, exercising my first freedom, speaking the truth publicly. Right? I'm exercising freedom of associations, freedom of speech and free exercise of religion. I am talking about my faith publicly. And in order to make sure that we can continue to do that, government has to be legitimate and has to protect those rights. But those rights don't come from government. They come from God, our Creator.
Examining Constitutional Processes: The 17th Amendment, Civic Education, and the Need for Reform
They are instilled in every one of us as human beings made in his image. We, we can't forget that. And then third, we have to take a very hard, serious look at generational wins and what the process looks like. Instead of every just single isolated election to election to election, maybe take a step back and say, what were some of the processes that maybe have. and let's hold the break here again. Sorry. so let's look at the processes of when, when some elections go our way, that's great. But then when some elections don't, then we see the fruit of perhaps some procedural decisions that we've made historically that haven't been the best. And I alluded to this yesterday and, and I loved this because Ross, ah, story and Right Wing Watch, who, you know, they, they published a story like almost weekly about me when, when I was working for Trump. And this was. The headline was laughing. Sorry. This actually made my day. This was hilarious. It said, MAGA Lawyer calls for Abolishing Senate Elections after big loss. Quote, people can be stupid now, you guys, I, I have peaked in my career because of that headline. It is so hilarious because clearly Raw Story does not understand the history of the U.S. constitution, has no clue about the 17th Amendment. And they actually admit that because they go on to actually have to quote Right Wing Watch and say Right Wing Watch reports that Senators were originally chosen by state legislatures until the 17th Amendment in 1913 moved to popular elections. They had to quote a secondary source in order to be like, oh, wait a minute. I think that, that we used to do this differently. And this, this just is a perfect example of why we need to be teaching civics, we need to be teaching American history, and we need to be questioning whether changing processes is a good thing and how we can do that constitutionally. And also the processes that we have changed in the past, has that been a good thing now? You know, some of the detractors who, who said, well, you know, look at why we changed that because there was a lot of corruption in state legislatures appointing senators. Yeah, well, no process is going to be perfect. This is why the founders said that our system is only built for a moral and upright society. it's wholly inadequate to, you know, to the governance of any other. I mean, it's only for moral and upright people. Right. they assumed and presumed not that people actually would be wholly virtuous, but that a virtuous people was actually needed in order for this process to work. And so sometimes in our, our scope of American history and our constitutional history, we have changed some of those processes to deal with some of either the corruption or the abuse of the process. But did we do that in a way that actually led to better outcomes for. And not. And I'm not just talking about party right, this isn't just about Republican or Democrat, but actually electing people who will, who will exercise the powers of government in the way that the Constitution intends and that our declaration intends by being a government of the people, by the people, for the people. Now I'm convinced that the Democrat socialists have absolutely no intention of exercising their office in a way that is, remotely legitimate. certainly not biblical, certainly not Christian, and more freedom and liberty for the people. They are avowed socialists. So we have to ask and answer the question on things like the 17th amendment, does that make sense today? even for the reasons in 1913, does that still make sense today? Or should we repeal that amendment? Should we look at our processes? Should we look at the US Constitution? Should we look at, the popular election, for example, of senators, should we look at how we elect certain offices? And not having term limits, for example, we can add that into the text of the Constitution. And I think that term limits. I'm with Governor DeSantis on that.
The Article 5 Convention of States Project: Reforming Processes for Long-Term Freedom and Liberty
And so this is why I have been an advocate for the Article 5 Convention of States Project For, I mean, this has been well over a decade now. And note, this was well before Trump appointed the Supreme Court justices that he did, and when everybody back prior to 2016 was talking about, well, how do we possibly reform the judiciary? There's no way we can ever get a conservative majority on the Supreme Court. Well, nobody saw Donald Trump coming, right? And so then when Trump won and he actually appointed, justices that, you know, at least are arguably, ah, better than, than what, you know, Hillary Clinton would have appointed, then suddenly everybody's fine with the processes, right? So we're fine with the processes if it works to the outcomes we prefer. But then we're not so much once the other party gets into power, right? And that's not how the processes should work. We should have safeguards to make sure that freedom and liberty is protected, regardless of who is in office, and that the best possible outcome, while we may not have the most virtuous people, the best possible outcome is achieved in the way that actually facilitates what the US Constitution originally provided for. And when we're talking about the Senate with, you know, with, I would say, all due respect to roster, but I don't respect them at all. So with lack of respect to Raw Story, the point of the US Senate was that that deliberative body would represent the state's interest. That's why the state legislatures would appoint, and could recall their senators. That's why they have longer terms. That's why advice of consent and consent of the Senate for things like judicial nominations goes through the Senate, not the House. The House is supposed to represent the people, be popularly elected, and then the Senate is supposed to represent the states. The states right now have virtually no voice in Washington. We forget we have a federalist system. So all of this to say, and we can take the break here. all of this to say. We need to analyze our processes. We need to know American history. We need to know from whence we have come. We also need to know what we are going to do in the future. And so we need to act now. And you can start the music, act now.
Taking Back the Country: Contemplating Processes Beyond the Ballot Box for a More Perfect Union
And we also need to make sure that we are not changing our biblical worldview of what we do as Christians. And we also need to make sure that for the future our processes are questioned and what we do with our US Constitution and how we create a more perfect union. We can look to history, we can look to the changes that have been made, question those and the changes that haven't been made and say, maybe we should add things like Term limits, balanced budget, judicial reform. Those are the three issues for a Convention of States. Article 5 petition that needs to go through 2/3 of the states in order to call a convention of the states and then be approved by the legislatures of three fourths. And we can, we can take back our country. But it's not just through the ballot box and waiting election to election to election. We have to contemplate our processes as well. And we will be right back with more.
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Texas Political Action: Restoring Separation of Powers and Recalling Rogue U.S. Senators
Jenna Ellis Welcome back. Well, as we've been talking about what happens now? Well, on the state level, Representative Brian Harrison out of Texas is saying we still have total power in Texas and we must act like it, by using the remaining 10 weeks to restore the separation of powers and limit the emergency powers that their governor elect is set to inherit. That would allow her to destroy liberty in Texas by executive fiat. So he's called on governor Abbott to immediately convene a special session to rein in executive emergency powers. He also filed House Bill 1267 to authorize the Texas legislature to recall U.S. senators if they go rogue. Speaking of the 17th amendment, he said our founders intended U.S. senators who represent the interests of the sovereign states and safeguard against federal overreach. Unfortunately, since the 17th Amendment, many have become beholden to D.C. special interests and complicit in the erosion of liberty and acceleration of America's move to a post constitutional era where unelected bureaucrats write and enforce law by edict. We must empower Texans to ensure our U.S. senators serve the best interests of the state of Texas. So Brian Harrison joins me now and two great proposals. I, have no doubt that Ross, ah story is about to, to to accuse you of wanting to cancel elections in Texas because they have no idea about the 17th Amendment. But good, morning, Brian.
Brian Harrison Good morning, Jim. No, I was so excited when I dialed in and your producer put your, radio show into my ear here and hear you. I was so excited. I rarely get to hear national media, talk show host talk about something so obscure as the 17th amendment. So I sent you that bill that I filed a couple of years ago because I, you know, our founders, I think, knew what they were doing. They did not create two houses of Representatives on purpose. They wanted the power, with the people and with the states. And the states for far too long have taken this usurpation of power lying down.
Limiting Executive Powers in Texas: Addressing Governor Abbott's Authority and Legislative Action
Anyway, I know that's not what I'm on here to talk to you about, but I was so excited to hear you railing against the 17th amendment. We need to make the 17th amendment hated again.
Jenna Ellis Amen to that. Absolutely. And and we also need to make executive powers limited so that we don't have the overreach. And that's what, your main proposal now in Texas. And like I was saying in the last segment, I mean, there is still time while Republicans have control to get through things done. So what should Texas be doing?
Brian Harrison Well, yeah, and I'm having to remind Governor Greg Abbott, you know, who was defeated after asking voters to give him 16 years in office, which is its own problem. But, hey, Governor, the Democrat. The Democrats might have won elections two nights ago, but they weren't inaugurated two nights ago. And Governor Abbott is still the governor of the state of Texas. You know, the legislature didn't change, yet we still control Republicans, still control all of the branches of government in Texas and the constitution of our state and the people, more importantly of our state, expect us to do our jobs and not take our ball and go home. So what I have asking Governor Abbott to do, there's lots of things we should have done in special session, tons of failures by the liberal elected uniparty Republican leadership in Texas. I don't have time to go into all that, or even demand that he fix all those things right now.
Restoring Constitutional Separation of Powers in Texas: The Governor's Dictatorial Emergency Powers
Although he probably should like property taxes. That's a whole other thing. If we're going to do one thing, we've got to restore the constitutional separation of power. Because people are shocked to learn that in Texas under our emergency powers law, which I think is unconstitutional, the governor literally has all the powers of a dictator. The governor can write laws, he can delete laws, he can edit laws, he can. I'm not making this up. The governor of Texas can create a criminal law and then prosecute somebody for violating the criminal law that he wrote by executive action. That is a, violent. It turns separation of powers on its head and it renders the people, because they're represented by the legislature, it renders them powerless. And why in the world. It's obscene that Greg Abbott has had these powers. And by the way, I filed this bill four years ago when Greg Abbott was reelected. So this is not partisan. But we should not let now the Democrats have taken over Texas and Texas has turned blue the government anyway, we should not allow this unconstitutional emergency executive powers that will hand Governor, Democrat governor Gina Hinojosa all the powers of a dictator and make it super way too easy for her to destroy freedom and individual liberty in the state of Texas. She could single handedly waive our abortion laws. I'm serious. She could undo our pro life laws, she could undo our freedoms to carry guns in the second amendment in the state of Texas. She could do that by executive fiat. We are derelict in our duty if we do not use the next 10 weeks that the Constitution gives us to do everything we can to protect liberty and limit the damage that the Democrats can do to the state of Texas over the next four years.
Jenna Ellis You know, why would states like Texas especially, I mean I get California, NewSong York that want dictators, but why would Texas have granted the, that ridiculous of an extent of emergency powers to begin with?
Brian Harrison It's a great question and I don't know. And it actually goes back, I want to say to the 1970s or 1980s that these obscene and I think facially unconstitutional laws are on the books. Because you know, when people think of executive action they kind of think like, well, okay, the president can direct executive agencies or maybe he can change his own regulations. Well, not in Texas. The ridiculous law gives the governor all of the power of the legislature when we're in a state emergency.
Urgent Need to Limit Texas Governor's Emergency Powers: Protecting Liberty from Executive Fiat
And guess who gets to determine whether we're in a state of emergency? The governor. So quite literally, this is not exaggeration. First of all, tell you, this is not just academic. First of All Governor Abbott has used and abused these powers. And during COVID people forget this. actually, one of my colleagues now in the legislature, she was sent to jail, during Cove for violating a law that no legislature passed. And get this, Governor Hinojosa, right after she was elected, she immediately went public and promised that on her first day in office, she is going to use these unconstitutional powers to start meddling in our electricity markets here in the state of Texas. And I think that's just the start. But quite literally, nothing would stop her from saying, you know what, carbon emissions are a public health threat, and I'm going to limit, oil and gas production and refineries, or, you know what? Abortion is a public health crisis. I'm going to declare an emergency and waive by executive order Texas pro life protections that are there to protect unborn Texans. this is not exaggeration. This is not hyperbole. That's how high the stakes are. And I'm sorry. it's absolutely indefensible for Republicans who pretend on the campaign trail for the last year that they care about conservative values, they care about limited government, they care about the Constitution, which requires separation of powers, to sit around crying, sobbing in a corner, taking their ball and going home when we could be acting and protecting Texans for the next 10 weeks. It's indefensible if Governor Abbott does not do this.
Jenna Ellis Yeah, 100%. And so what do you think is the likelihood that Republicans, and Abbott will actually get it together and accomplish this?
Likelihood of Limiting Executive Powers in Texas: Historical Precedent and Governor Abbott's Record
Brian Harrison Well, unfortunately, if history is any guide not, good. and I want to repeat something I said a second ago, because people are accusing me of being hyper partisan and, oh, you know, powers for the, but not for me kind of thing. No, I first filed this legislation exactly four years ago, right after Greg Abbott was reelected. Okay? So I'm going to be really clear about that. Okay? I'm an equal opportunity offender when it comes to people who violate separation of powers. But I don't know if Governor Abbott's going to do this because Governor Abbott has had countless opportunities and every time a bill to even tweak or slightly limit emergency executive powers, the corrupt, fake Republican uniparty establishment in the Texas government has, stopped and thwarted, those pieces of legislation, mine included. And the governor has, basically opposed efforts to limit his. His powers. So unfortunately, history. If history isn't a guy, the odds aren't good. Governor Greg Abbott has never wanted to do the right thing on this. And quite frankly, Governor Greg Abbott has been A massive and profound disappointment. And I think his weakness and his failure to deliver core Republican values like lower taxes contributed to the bloodbath we saw two nights ago.
Activism and Petitioning for Change: Forcing Conservative Action Despite Leadership Opposition in Texas
But, you know, I just launched a petition. Just put it on my social media feed on X at Brian E. Harrison, if people want to see it says, look, I have managed, as you know, Jenna, we've covered it a lot. You know, from getting the president of Texas A and M fired or stopping Texas, from registering illegal alien vehicles. We have been able to, the people have been able to force conservative things through the Texas government even when the leadership hasn't wanted to. And I'm hoping we can do that one more time here before the Democrats take over.
Jenna Ellis I hope so, too. And maybe, just maybe, even if Abbott wasn't willing to limit it for himself, he'll recognize that it needs, needs to be limited. And so he'll be willing to do it on the way out, you know, for the future of Texas. But Brian Harrison, I really appreciate your, stakes in the fight and for continuing to fight for Texas. so much more that can be said.
Concluding Thoughts: Christian Focus, Preborn Ministry, and Saving Lives
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After a historic midterm defeat, what should conservatives do next? Jenna Ellis talks with Steve Deace about the election results, what drove voters away from Republicans, and the urgent need for the party to deliver on its promises. Steve urges listeners to respond with renewed faith, service, and civic engagement, while Jenna argues that Republicans should use their remaining time with unified control to act rather than retreat.
Jenna also examines how constitutional processes shape American government, including the 17th Amendment and the original role of the Senate. Later, Texas Representative Brian Harrison joins the conversation to warn about the state’s broad emergency powers and explain why he wants the legislature to rein them in before a new governor takes office. Together, the conversations ask a central question: how can citizens defend liberty, strengthen institutions, and keep working toward a more perfect union after an election setback?
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