In the last episode, Wesley and TJ talked to pastor Bert Harper about how we attempt to divide our lives into secular and sacred things. We often forget that we have one life in which everything is connected. That is true in regards to the health of our walk with God and our walk with our spouse. Bert shares with Wesley and TJ what Scripture says about the connection.

The connection between walking with God and walking with your spouse is especially important for pastors. That is why Bert started hosting Fishbowl Retreats. Listen to hear Bert talk about why he started it and why your pastor should attend. Then click here for more information about sending your pastor and his wife and in October.