Hello and welcome to the Dr. Nurse Mama show prescribing Hope for Healthy Families here on American Family Radio. Here's your host, professor, pediatric nurse practitioner and mom of four, Dr. Jessica Peck.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Well, hey there friends, and welcome to my favorite part of the afternoon, getting to spend time with you prescribing Hope for Healthy Families. And as we seem like we continue to live in such a chaotic news cycle, every time I hear the news, I think I oh my goodness, could we just have a little breather, A little moment of calm that does not seem to be. But we know that God is in control and we can still find hope in this world. And we know that in this world we will have trouble, but we can take heart and we can be of good cheer. And today we're talking about reading to your kids. Now, I know, I know what some.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Of you are thinking.

Dr. Jessica Peck: I've been talking about this a lot.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Yeah, yeah, I have.

Dr. Jessica Peck: I feel very, very passionate about this. I've been writing a lot for the Stand magazine and I've been talk on the show about the impacts of technology, the impacts of artificial intelligence. And while technology has its place and while it can be very, very good, it does not replace some of those values that come with reading physical media. And so I want to encourage you and just say it over and over and over again. I know that Christmas is coming up. I know. See, already my team is saying, oh, it's October 1st and she's mentioning Christmas. Yes, I did. Because some of you may be shopping. Don't worry, I'm not putting up decorations. Okay, maybe I am.

Dr. Jessica Peck: But anyway, if you're shopping, really.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Think about investing in books. What? What for whatever children are in your life, it's really important to do because did you know that children who are regularly read to at home are more likely to develop not just stronger language skills, but also deeper emotional resilience? That's one of the reasons why I keep talking about this, because we've been talking about the impact of resilience and that can come partly through reading and the relational bonds that are there. And if you pair that with faith filled stories, suddenly reading becomes discipleship, even for your little, little ones, your little nieces, nephews, grandkids, kids, wife, whatever kids are in your life. And even for you, reading is so important. And reading out loud, it plants seeds of truth, it strengthens family bonds, it creates spiritual rhythms that will be embedded in kids for a lifetime. And I'm so delighted to have, one of my favorite children's book authors Back with us today, Valerie Ellis.

Valerie's newest book is Wild Faith devotional for kids

She's here with me in studio, and she has a real gift for capturing that kind of magic. And her newest book is Wild Faith devotional for kids. 52amazing animals that point to one great God. Got it right here. As usual, such a beautiful book with beautiful illustrations, and it brings together faith and science, which is one of my favorite things. I love that. And a wonder that in a way that captivates kids and it draws parents right into the journey with them. It's got over 200 pages, so it is a pretty substantial book. This would get you through many, many nights of devotional time. It's got stunning photos, it's got fascinating creatures, meaningful faith applications. And this devotional helps kids age 7 and up Marvel at God's creation while growing spiritually, socially, and emotionally. Valerie, welcome back.

Dr. Jessica Peck: So glad to have you.

Valerie Ellis: So good to be here. Thank you.

How has the message of your writing shifted with Wild Faith

Dr. Jessica Peck: well, you. This is not your first book. We've talked about your other children's books, your other devotionals, which are just so interactive, so fun, like we were talking about for really active kids. And how has the message of your writing shifted? What's stayed the same? Tell us about the vision for Wild Faith.

Valerie Ellis: Yes. Well, my first books were for much younger kids. So my first book was a Christmas Lift the Flap book, which, of course, you know, I do share the joy. And so that was for, like, kids zero to four. And then the next book was let's Go Bible adventures for kids 2 to 6 with the transportation theme. And then this one is for kids seven and up. so. So I would say the theme that has stayed the same is connecting with kids through things that they already love and bringing in that biblical message. But with this one, of course, I was writing for much older kids, which is more similar to my writing for adults. So I would say the thing that I had to watch for this with this was not to make it too grown up, to keep that kid friendly tone, and that, just nice, clear, concise language while explaining maybe some of the more technical vocabulary. And so just really keeping that in mind, while also really going deep and knowing that kids can handle a lot of vocabulary, they can handle a lot of big concepts. So we didn't shy away from that. Just tried to keep that kid friendly language.

Dr. Jessica Peck: I definitely had one of those kids who had a very big vocabulary early on. And I think that's an important point, Valerie, because often we underestimate what kids are capable of and what they're capable of understanding, even concepts of thinking Faith. And this devotional is really about that rhythm. Just that every day I think about Deuteronomy. You know, talk about it as you walk along the road, as you get up, as you lie down. This is such a great tool just to be able to have those conversations, to not underestimate their ability to ask questions.

Dr. Jessica Peck: And sometimes what happens, I think, Valerie, is they start asking questions that I think, I don't know the answer to that. That's a really good question. And even some of these things about science and.

Dr. Jessica Peck: But it's great for parents to say.

Dr. Jessica Peck: You know, I don't know that either.

Dr. Jessica Peck: But let's find that out together. So what is the message that you want to give to kids and to families from this particular devotional?

Valerie Ellis: So I think about. Of course, each devotion has its own message, which is, you know, maybe something about perseverance or friendship or just growing in God. But then overall, I feel like the message is twofold. So God is the Creator. He made all of these amazing animals. And we get to stand and marvel at that, celebrate that, and also find our worth and knowing that we are also part of that and his very special part of that. and then the word devotional, you know, brings in the other part of the message that I hope that kids and families will get from this, which is that, yes, we are devoting ourselves. I mean, by taking just a few minutes to read from this book, you are investing in your spiritual growth, which is wonderful. But in that devotion, we are still not doing it on our own, that God is with us every step of the way, anything he asks us to do, to devote ourselves to, to study, he doesn't say, now go out and do that on your own. I saved you. I rescued you. Now you go and grow spiritually. No, he's with us every step. So if we're feeling like maybe I don't want to do this, or I don't want to be kind to my sibling, or I don't want to study.

Dr. Jessica Peck: The Bible, never happen.

Valerie Ellis: You know, we can ask for God's help. And I tried to weave that throughout the book because I don't want kids to feel like, now we're telling you to do all of these things. It's God who's with us, and he can do even more than what our effort would result in. So, like, he takes our little effort and then he does miraculous things with it.

Dr. Jessica Peck: I could not agree more with you on that. And sometimes parents can be really overwhelmed on where to start on discipleship. But just like I said, at the top of the show, devotional is a great way to introduce discipleship into your home and. And making sure that the devotional that you picked is biblically sound, that it's theologically sound. So we're giving you that recommendation and telling you that we have looked at it and we recommend this, but it's so, It really. I think sometimes we underestimate the power of that rhythm and the. Just the little bit of effort that it takes. And I know that when my kids were younger, you just start those little connections, and kids really want to connect with you. And so once you start doing it, if you do it two or three nights, most kids, I think, Valerie, I know my kids did, and I've seen lots of other kids do it. They're going to go get it themselves and say, okay, it's time. Let's read another one.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Or, you know, you may read one, and what would happen is, one more, one more, and then the next thing you know, you're 23 devotionals deep. But that,

Dr. Jessica Peck: That, to me, is never time that is wasted.

Bedtime routine is one of the most critical spiritual disciplines for parents

And I know you and I have talked about this before, Valerie, but let's talk about it a little bit here, because when I've been going through 52 habits for healthy families, every Friday we talk about a habit. Devotional was one of those that was way up at the top in those rhythms, but so was bedtime routine. And sometimes I think as parents, we can get to the end of the day and we're just like, okay, go to bed.

Dr. Jessica Peck: I'm so tired. Like, just go to bed.

Dr. Jessica Peck: But that was something that I really had to shift in my parenting. Just find a little breather at some point other in the day, because I knew that bedtime was going to take me a good hour or two for four kids, you know, just having all of those conversations, reading the devotionals, doing all the prayers and. But that was so important for me to be there for. And I know you've had that experience, too.

Valerie Ellis: I, love the idea of thinking of, like, another time in your day that could be your breather. You're like, I'm gearing up for this very important time in my children's lives. Because it's true. And, you know, I found myself, even now that they're older and especially now can just be like, okay, can we just shorten up bedtime? Because I am ready to also go to bed. They're going to bed later, but still trying to have that time where they just know. Like, we. And I sometimes tell, My kids, like, we have a very wonderful privilege of bringing our day, you know, to God at the end of the day. We try to start out with that, but then also to think about where we've seen God today, and to maybe read a devotional or something, just to bring us together, to calm us down and to know, like, we're going into sleep, we're going into the next day, and God is with us, and he's watching over us.

Dr. Jessica Peck: There's something really powerful about that. And even now my kids are older, they still want me to pray over them just because we establish that rhythm early. And so I would say to parents who aren't in the habit of doing that, and. And not just parents, let me tell you, for married couples, this is also really important. You can end your day with a devotional. There is something really, really special and sweet and precious about going to bed and knowing that you've given your cares to the Lord, that you have had that. That point of connection. And it may seem hard to do at first, but I'm telling you, it is an investment that is absolutely worth it. And even now, you know, I'll see my kids.

Dr. Jessica Peck: They're older.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Those books are special, you know, and they keep those. And Lord willing, one day I'll be reading those to my grandkids. I already hear my kids cringing now.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Like, don't say that. That's so cringey. But that is, that is definitely my hope.

Dr. Jessica Peck: And so I. I would just encourage you, if you are not in the habit of doing a daily devotional, go back and listen to that Friday show that we did. You can just look back at the podcast listing and get some ideas on, how to get started, because that is one of the most critical spiritual disciplines that you would have.

Valerie Ellis wrote Wild Faith devotional for kids about 52 amazing animals

And so, Valerie, when you were writing this one, there are so many animals in here. There's a lot of animals I did not even know existed. So was that fun for you to research these animals and then. And decide which ones to include?

Valerie Ellis: It really was. I mean, my brain kind of thinks in analogies, so the first couple animals I thought of before I even knew I would write this book kind of happened naturally where I was like, oh, that, you know, that thing about the owl totally reminds me of gratitude or whatever. But then, as I thought, well, I think I could branch out and really started digging into the research. I still am finding animals that I'm like, that's a thing. God made that. And it was really fun. And also to learn about animals that I'VE seen, you know, a thousand times. But I didn't know this about them or I never thought about how this could relate to our spiritual life. So I had a great time researching it.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Well, I can only imagine because that that's one of the important things about pointing kids back to God because he's reflected in his creation and to see the intricate design there and to give them not just that, oh, these animals do this. Isn't that so neat? But that God made these animals, and then we think about the scriptures and that. Doesn't God care even more about you? So was there one animal in particular that you thought, whoa, that was really neat. Did you have a favorite? I know that's hard to say, but do you have a favorite?

Valerie Ellis: That is really hard to say. It's like picking a favorite child and it always changes. But two that have come up recently that kids or parents have told me. Oh, that really resonates with me. one was the sea otter. In the book, we talk about how the sea otter. Well, I put it to kids this way. If you and seven of your friends took all of the hair on your head and you packed it into one inch, that's how dense a sea otter's coat is. It's the thickest fur. It has two layers, and it has, these incredible waterproofing qualities. And in the book, I talk about how that can help remind us that sometimes when things come at us in life, we need to deal with them, and other times we need to let them roll off. Just like the water rolls right off the sea otter's coat, it doesn't get down to its skin and bother it. So that's just, like, a fun example, but very practical, and one of the ones that parents have told me, like, that makes so much sense. We are so going to talk about this, like, even before the book had come out, just saying, like, I'm going to talk to my kids about that.

Dr. Jessica Peck: So I love that. Those are great examples. And I told you as we were sitting here chatting before the show, I think every family will love this, but I just feel like homeschool families, this would be a great addition to your curriculum because it's got so much rich science in there, but science of the creation, pointing back to the creator. So I know I'm talking about this.

Dr. Jessica Peck: But a lot like I said.

Dr. Jessica Peck: But I really want you to think about having books and investing in devotionals, those rhythms, whether it's this one or another one. Valerie's already given you the other age groups that she's written for. Maybe next they'll be teenagers.

Dr. Jessica Peck: You don't know because you have some life experience. Experience with that, too.

Dr. Jessica Peck: We'll be right back with more from Valerie Ellis. And the book is called Wild Faith devotional for kids, 52amazing animals that point to one great God. This would be great in a church ministry and a children's department in a waiting room. I think I put books like this.

Dr. Jessica Peck: In my waiting room for my patients.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Because sometimes, they're waiting. But we will be waiting for you on the other side of this break. Thank you so much for joining in. We're so glad that you're here today and we'll have more health and hope on the other side of this break.

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Today we're talking about praying for your kids through a daily devotional

Dr. Jessica Peck: Welcome back, friends. That somebody prayed by Crowder and what a powerful message. And today we're talking about praying for your kids, praying for them, praying with them, having that rhythm of a daily devotional. I've been talking about this A lot, but it's so important. Did you know that God's creation preaches truth? Of course you know that, because we can see that. We can see God's creation. We can see God at work and a sunset, we can see him in the ocean, we can see him in nature. We can see him and how he made animals and how he made us. And this is something I really, really feel strongly about. Listen, I am following as a professor very closely the research that's coming out about the impacts of technology on, our kids, especially with AI and has its place in time. It has a lot of good benefits. But we have got to retain some of those relational rhythms that God has really told us in His Word to do. And one of those things to do is to spend time in His Word, to spend time praying. And you can do that through a devotional. I have one of my favorite children's authors ever.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Honestly, I'm a big fan of, Valerie Ellis.

Dr. Jessica Peck: This is our third devotional that we are featuring that she has done. And they're just so creative and just such a great tool for parents and kids. And this particular one, Wild Faith Devotional for kids, it's science. So you know all already. I'm a fan because I am a science nerd.

Dr. Jessica Peck: But did you know that the peacock.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Mantis shrimp can see colors that are invisible to the human eye? Or that the glass frog's body is so transparent that you can watch its heart beat? That's pretty cool. Kids light up when they discover these kinds of facts. But imagine the impact when those wonders point them straight to the Creator. That that same designer is the one who made them, who knit them together in their, in their mother's womb. And that's what Wild Faith Devotional does so beautifully.

Dr. Jessica Peck: It's gonna connect some kind of quirky.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Really extraordinary details, amazing things from the animal kingdom with timeless spiritual truths and with well loved creatures like cats and dogs. And I'm reading my notes here, Valerie, alongside rock climbing gobies. Am I okay? I'm gonna need some help.

Dr. Jessica Peck: And what is this right here?

Dr. Jessica Peck: Capybara. Cap Capybara. See? Okay, clearly I need to read the.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Devotional because I don't know anything about a capybara.

Dr. Jessica Peck: The kids not only learn science, they discover God's strength and his creativity and his love in ways that they will never forget. This is faith and science and STEM working together. And it's so important for us to nurture that curiosity about the world while we help children grow in Christ. And so, Valerie, I know that you're passionate about this, about kids reading, and I'm just going to give you the soapbox and just say, hop up on it and give parents a message of encouragement.

Valerie Ellis: Well, I love what you've been saying about reading, about having a devotional, and about kids, you know, being curious. I know that my kids often tell me they don't like school, and I think a lot of kids say that. But I do think most kids love learning and love learning surprising facts and especially surprising connections. So just the other day, my son was saying, you know, dad, when you lift something, you're also lifting your muscles, and your muscles have weight. And I was like, that sounds oddly familiar to something in the devotional. But I didn't know he had been reading it. And so he said, yeah, so, anyway, that's why the ant can lift up things more than its weight. And I was like. I looked at him and he's like, I got that from Mom's devotional.

Dr. Jessica Peck: That's the best.

Valerie Ellis: It was the best because I didn't know he had this. Been picking it up and looking at it. So it was really fun. But, yes, I think that's really important for families. And it can seem overwhelming at first when you think, like, if. That if you don't have a reading habit. Now, I know a lot of you probably do, but if you don't, it can seem overwhelming, but it can just take a minute. And then, like you said earlier in the show, sometimes they'll start asking. I know mine have definitely done that, where it's been like, well, we want to start doing this. And they're like, oh, no. And then, when it's time to stop, they're like, well, we're not really ready to stop.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Exactly, exactly. That is really the best thing. And it is. It's such an important habit for us to have as adults, too. So this is not just a habit for kids. And I'll. I'll, talk about my husband here, Valerie, because he would be the first to tell you that he's an engineer, so numbers are really his thing.

Dr. Jessica Peck: And he's never really been a really.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Big reader, but he's felt very convicted about reading a devotional. Reading something at night.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Even if he says he reads C.S. lewis and he's got to read, like, the same sentence three times in a row, and then have one of our children come say, wave. What does this mean?

Dr. Jessica Peck: There's something really powerful about seeing that in your home. So for my kids, you know, they know before bedtime, they're Gonna see him put his bifocals on, you know, because we're at that age now, and put his glasses on and turn on the lamp and just read whatever, you know, the Lord has as teaching him at that time. There's something really powerful about that visual. And I've talked about this too, Valerie, because again, technology has itself place. And there are a lot of great technological applications for reading and for interactive media, but nothing really replaces that visual that you're giving to kids that they know it's different. They know you're not scrolling through the news, they know you're not watching reels, they know you're not on social media, they know you're reading your devotional, that you're reading your Bible. Don't you think?

Valerie Ellis: I think so. And I've, you know, often had devotionals or books on my phone. But then when I'm around my kids, you know, I have that hard copy just to have that imprint on them of like, we're doing something more than scrolling. Like you said, they don't know what when I pick up my phone, what I'm doing. And so I often will have that visual for them. And, you know, the reading time, whether it's for you or with your kids, it goes so much deeper, like you were saying earlier in the show. And I know that you recently spoke at the Empowered Homes Conference, and I have an article coming out with them about this very topic and about how reading, you know, it not only has academic benefits, but those social emotional benefits that you mentioned. But then the spiritual benefits, and the first one I feel like is just the warmth it gives in your home. And we know that if we're going to pass on our faith, we need to create that warm home environment and invest in that, what I call in the article, like, soil the soil of the kids and just making that connection, whether it's a spiritual book or just, you know, a fun book of having that connection time. And then, you know, like, if it is a spiritual book or something that can point to one of God's precepts, planting those seeds that later in the day or later in the week is something we can talk about, it's something that we can kind of catapult off of to go into spiritual discussions.

Dr. Jessica Peck: So I couldn't agree more. And I know I'm a little old school on this, Valerie, but, again, as I continue to watch the impact of technological media, I do worry about those visual imprints. You put that. Well, that's a really good way to Say it, because it is those visual imprints of faith. And there's something about pulling a book off of the shelf. And I know I have some books that I read to my kids when they were little. And you open it up and there's just a certain weight about it. There's a certain familiarity. You see where, you know, the younger sibling, like, scribbled all over one of the pages or where you spilled apple.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Juice on it, and, you know, everything is crinkly.

Dr. Jessica Peck: But there's just something different about that. And in a world where our kids are saturated with screens and they use them for learning and they use them primarily for entertainment, that's what I'm seeing. Younger people really have an affinity for, is things that are different. When I talk to Gen Z and Gen Alpha, this is one of the things that is bringing them back to the church. They don't want to walk in and feel like it's any sort of concert, you know, venue that they go to that looks like all of those other venues. And they are looking for that different. The sacred things. They're looking for the Lord's Supper. That's certainly not something, you know, that you're going to do at school, obviously, or a concert or something like that. They're looking for singing songs that are different. They're looking for standing and reading your Bible. Those are the kinds of things that differentiate our faith rhythms and practices from the way that technology is running our life.

Dr. Jessica Peck: I know there's probably some of you.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Out there who are saying, nope, nope, nope.

Dr. Jessica Peck: I disagree, I disagree.

Dr. Jessica Peck: And that.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Okay.

Dr. Jessica Peck: I just think, you know, from my perspective in knowing what I know about pediatric development, this is so important.

Valerie Ellis: Yes. Well, I talk a little bit when I teach, children's ministers about, like, how to use the techniques authors, use to engage kids in their Bible storytelling. I talk about bringing out the sensory details. And I think that's kind of what you're talking about, is you have not just sight and sound like you do with a video screen, but when you're reading a book or you're in church, you have taste of the Lord's Supper. You have the. The smell of the candles, or you have the weight of the book in your hand, and that feeling of turning the pages, it just grounds us in a special way. I mean, God made us to have all of our senses, you know, and so I feel like the more we can engage that with kids in our family life and our church life and our reading time, you know, just the better and more solid they'll be.

Dr. Jessica Peck: I completely agree. And in looking at, you know, you talked about teaching, children's groups, and you're very intentional in the design of this.

What do you see as some of the challenges in connecting with kids through media

What do you see as some of the challenges in connecting with kids through media? What are some of the challenges and how does your work seek to meet them where they are and meet families where they are with really practical tools?

Valerie Ellis: Well, I think part of the challenge is that it's just always available. I know in my home, that's the challenge, is that, you know, we've set boundaries, but the kids know, like, it's there that. That I could still consume it if I want. But we try to give them those alternatives that are fun and wholesome. But still, to a kid, it can seem like this is not as good as technology. So that always trying to have those wonderful alternatives and doing things together to just kind of make it feel like that phone or that screen is not always calling them, I say that's a really big challenge. And then, so I think what I try to do in my work is just offer those alternatives to make it something that kids are going to want to go to. And like, with this book, well, I know a lot of devotionals use, like, hooks like animals or science or, you know, in the case of my Bob's Storybook transportation. And I found sometimes. Thank you. So my kids will sometimes, you know, if those devotionals are just, like, mostly talking about the topic, and then at the very end, a little bit of spiritual application. Sometimes my kids will just read the part that's about the science or about whatever, and then they'll be like, well, I didn't read that part. So with this one, I've tried to weave it in a little bit of science, a little bit of faith, a little bit of science, a little bit of faith to just make it seem like one cohesive picture, but then also, help kids stay engaged with the whole message.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Valerie, I feel like that was a little bit of conviction, because isn't that what grownups do too? You know, you just kind of see, skim over the Bible verse and you're.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Like, yeah, what's the story? You know, and you read that part and then you just kind of really go through the scripture really, really quickly.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Well, one of the things that I.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Love about this, in addition to you, to integrating scripture, is that there's some interactive places here. Like, you write in this, but you can write in this book. So tell us about that too. Because I think just interacting those tactile senses, and then there's something really special about them, you know, going off to college but picking up this book and seeing the footprints of their faith. It's so amazing. So talk about the ways that you.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Can write in this book.

Dr. Jessica Peck: And I'm showing it here if you're.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Watching on the video. It's so cute.

Valerie Ellis: Yes. So at the end of each devotion, there's a make it stick activity which is designed to help kids just soak in what they just learned. Just take a pause and think about it just a little more deeply. And so it could be something like, imagine this or try to stand on one foot or, you know, something active or something written, like you said, just to take that, extra beat. Because I know, like you said, adults and kids, we're all guilty of just like, okay, did it close the book and haven't thought about it one other time the entire day? Yep. And then after that, there's a live it out. So something to help them say, like, okay, this is. Could be my next step. And a lot of times it's helping them reflect on, well, what could it be for me? Because they're all going to be in different places with different, you know, family situations and school situations. So, but like, the one that you turn to with the plate is about, like, the wolverine, how the wolverine is, eats all kinds of different things. And so I make the connection, like, they might eat berries if meat is scarce, or they might even dig down and find like, dead animal that another animal had left. They are going to find nourishment no matter what. And so we can be hungry for God like that where we are going to, pursue God no matter what. And so the plate is just like a way for them to write and say, well, I don't know. It's been a long time since I've written.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Oh, yeah, right here in each of the empty spaces.

Dr. Jessica Peck: I've got it right here on the plate below. Write one thing you can do to honor God. Once your plate is full of the righteousness you hunger for, put your plans into action. I think those kinds of action steps are so, so important because kids remember those things. And, you know, for. For parents, for grandparents who are wanting to grow in their faith, we can.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Learn from things, lessons that are for children. I know, you know, with my producer.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Here is a longtime children's minister. I won't say how long she's sitting right here. We won't out her, but quite a while. She's quite excited, experienced. But I've seen so many, Volunteers come into the children's ministry who maybe are at that level in their faith, and it is amazing to see them grow. And so I think it doesn't matter if you're, you know, four minutes into your faith or 40 years into your faith.

Dr. Jessica Peck: This is so great.

Wild Faith devotional for kids, 52 amazing animals that point to one Great God

And actually, the next page here is that peacock mantis shrimp. I'm telling you, Valerie, I didn't even know this exists. But in just looking at some of the fun things, this is such a fun illustration of a really, quirky creature.

Dr. Jessica Peck: And it says, the colorful peacock mantis shrimp is small, but its powerful punch can bust open crab shells and even break an aquarium's glass. Now, what I see, Valerie, is my voice saying immediately, can we get one of them?

Dr. Jessica Peck: Let's try it out and see if that happens at a speed that's 50 times, faster than we can blink. Now, you tell me little boys aren't going to have their imagination captured by that. And little girls, too.

Dr. Jessica Peck: And then looking at the scripture that's.

Dr. Jessica Peck: There first, Timothy 4:12.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Make it stick and live it out. We'll talk more about devotionals. Wild Faith devotional for kids, 52amazing animals that point to one great God by Valerie Ellis. So think about it. How can you minister to the kids who are in your life? And maybe that kid is a big.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Kid, and maybe it's you. We'll have more help and hope after the break. Dr. Carl Trueman from the American Family Studios documentary the God who Speaks.

Dr. Carl Trueman: One of the things that a pastor has to do on a Sunday when he gets up in the pulpit is let people know that the reading and the exposition of scripture is the most important thing that's going to happen to them that week. If the pastor has not communicated to his people with the very first sentence that comes out of his mouth on a Sunday morning that this is the most important thing you're going to hear that week. The pastor has failed in his job. Secondly, the pastor needs to preach in a way that helps people to read the Bible for themselves. Now, to clarify that the purpose of preaching is not primarily to help people read the Bible for themselves. It's to expand scripture and to confront them with the call of God on their lives. But a byproduct of that should be helping people to handle the word of God responsibly for themselves. Visit thegodwhospeaks.org.

Jesus, Son of God by Brandon Heath: You came down from heaven's throne this earth you formed was not your home A love like this the world had never known a crown of Thorns to mark your name. Forgiveness fell upon your face. A love like this the world had never known. On the altar of our praise. Let there be no higher name. Jesus, son of God, you lay down your perfect life. You are the sacrifice. Jesus, son of God. You are Jesus, son of God.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Welcome back, friends. That's Jesus, son of God, by Brandon Heath.

Children who have regular faith conversations are more likely to stay engaged into adulthood

And that is the most important message that we need to be given to our children, children, to our grandchildren, to our families, to the people we love. And did you know that children who experience regular faith conversations at home are more than twice as likely to stay engaged with their faith into adulthood? I think that's one of the biggest fears that I hear from parents is parents are afraid their kids will walk away from their faith. They are afraid that they will deconstruct their faith, that they will somehow become cynical and jaded and reject the, the faith that has been planted into their hearts and there. And we have to trust our kids to God. But this is a tool that God has given us, a command that God has given us to talk about these things, to talk about the Jesus, son of God. As we walk along the road, as we get up, as we lie down. Those are so important. And that's why resources like this Wild Faith Devotional, they're not just books. This is a legacy that I'm holding right here in my hand. Every devotion, as you've heard Valerie say, comes with a make it stick activity and a live it out challenge. So kids aren't just hearing God's truth, they are experiencing it. And it is a robust devotional. It's 200 pages, and it's designed to grow with your kids and your family. Whether you read it once a day or once a week or just when you need to reconnect, or if you get, you know, somehow Snookered into.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Reading 23 at one time, that's great, too.

Dr. Jessica Peck: But you will love the way that this sparks conversations. Kids will love the animals and the activities, and together, families can build memories that are rooted in scripture and God's creativity. And Valerie, even in looking at this.

Dr. Jessica Peck: I mean, I, I am fascinated. Even my team is telling me, like, I didn't know that about that animal. And then just looking at the octopus.

Dr. Jessica Peck: The next one after the peacock, mantis shrimp, which I'm still fascinated. The octopus is an amazing creature. It has three hearts, nine brains, one of which is shaped like a donut and blue blood. Plus, it's super smart and a master of camouflage. I mean, there's just so many great things Here, but again, pointing them back to scripture.

Valerie, you have a great suggestion for parents on using technology with kids

And you and I were talking during the break and you have a great suggestion for parents on and grandparents on using technology to engage with their kids in a way that's really creative and I love it. Yeah.

Valerie Ellis: So I feel like technology, like you said, has its place. having the actual physical book in hand is great, but I have a friend who actually, sometimes will buy books and send them to her mother in law who lives in a different state and say, would you read this every night for 10 minutes with my kiddo? And so they'll alternate. One time, it'll be like her daughter's turn for a couple weeks and then her son's turn and they'll go through books together. And I just think that's just such a wonderful, memory that they'll always have. And yes, it's using technology, but it's with a person, like a real life interaction and then going through books. And I think that also, in addition to being wonderful for the child and the grandparent or aunt or whoever, it's so great for the parents too, to get that little break like we talked about.

Dr. Jessica Peck: He's just thinking that. I'm not even gonna lie.

Valerie Ellis: So, yeah, I think that's a really great way to integrate technology. And, you know, like, even after you read the devotional, if you want to look up the peacock, mantis, shrimp, you know, on Nat Geo or whatever, just to see it in action, I mean, that could be a way that you're also showing your kids, like, yeah, there's a place for technology. Let's spend three minutes watching a video, not like 35, doing that instead of reading.

Dr. Jessica Peck: So, yeah, I think that's a great idea. And I was thinking as a mom.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Like, especially when my kids were little.

Dr. Jessica Peck: I mean, how great would that be to say, okay, it's story time with.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Grandma not gonna have 10 minutes to go switch the laundry or get dinner on the table or just, you know, maybe just sit down for just a minute. Like, I think that is, that is really incredible. And all of these books, Valerie, you're.

Dr. Jessica Peck: So creative because you've got one that's Christmas. So we already know how I feel about that.

Dr. Jessica Peck: We have one that is about,

Dr. Jessica Peck: Transportation and just so fun and engaging. Now you have animals. Why is that important to have that point of connection to make the biblical truth relevant?

Valerie Ellis: Well, I think it goes back to what you were just saying about having those spiritual conversations at home, because each of these books has that as springboard possibility is what I like. To call it. We talk a lot about that on our everyday parables is, you know, when you read about an animal or a car or truck, those are things that you will see. Maybe you won't see a peacock, mantis, shrimp out in real life, but you'll start, look at nature, think about nature, talk about nature. And the thing I love about this book is the basic, format of each one is pointing to something amazing about an animal, something God has done, and then saying that reminds me of this spiritual principle in my life, or that reminds me of how God cares for me, or how God made you so special. And having that, like exercising that. That reminds me. Muscle gives us more practice at bringing up those spiritual conversations. So that, like, right now I'm on crutches, and that reminds me that I really need to focus on which muscles I'm using for what and where I'm putting my dependence as I lean on these crutches, just like I need to remember to lean on God.

Dr. Jessica Peck: You really. You get a gold star, Valerie, for hobbling in here into the studio. I mean, that is dedication. So we are so grateful that you did that.

Dr. Jessica Peck: But I remember you saying that in one of our previous conversations. And it's definitely worth repeating because I find myself, since I heard you say that, it's such a great bridge. Because it can be awkward for sometimes, for parents who aren't in the habit of just talking about faith things. Maybe that's just during the devotional time or on the drive to church, but aren't in the habit of just talking about it, just all the time. That reminds me is such a great opening. That sunset reminds me that, you know, that this feeling reminds me, this experience reminds me of a time when God was faithful in my life. I think that's such a powerful. What did you call it? A muscle?

Valerie Ellis: Yeah, like a muscle we have to work and we have to get stronger. Because, you know, any of these things that, like, I do with my kids now, there was a point where I had to decide to start doing it and then be a little bit awkward at it or a lot awkward at it. And so it does definitely take practice.

Dr. Jessica Peck: It does take practice. Like, I used to feel that way when I started to say scripture over.

Dr. Jessica Peck: My kids, and now they say it back to me, you know, so that's really good.

Dr. Jessica Peck: I think you should just push through that. But again, a tool like you've written this devotional, it just gives you that opening. It gives you that conversation. And then when they see one of.

Dr. Jessica Peck: These animals, maybe they Go to the zoo, or maybe they are at the pet store, maybe they see one in.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Nature and they can say, oh, that reminds me of that devotional that my mom used to read to me, that my dad used to read to me.

Dr. Jessica Peck: That grandma or grandpa used to read to me over.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Over technology. I think that's a really beautiful legacy to have. And so how do you see this as not just a book, not just an activity, not just a rhythm that you have at night, but really essential in building a legacy of faith.

Valerie Ellis: I think it can happen in so many ways. Like you said, it could be something that you do together and build that time together. If kids are doing it on their own, that could be a great thing to talk about, too. I know when my kids are in their room playing or whatever, and then they come out and they have something to share that's really special. Or maybe you have a lot of kids at different ages, so this could be something that maybe the older ones take and share with the younger ones. And then, of course, if you're a homeschool mom, this could. I just had a mom write to me and say, I'm going to integrate this for the next couple weeks into our science time every morning. And so that's definitely another way that. That you could work it in. But I think, you know, whatever way I would think to just be celebrating children's curiosity and, you know, whatever way you decide to work it in, just celebrate that they are. Look what we're doing. We're growing closer to God. That's just what he wants us to do. And just make it that. That fun, celebratory moment.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Yes, I completely agree. And Valerie, what. What's on your heart as a mom? Because you have kids of your own and you have written as they have grown up. What has that been like? Because you write these devotionals, you're writing them to grow with your family, right along that family. What encouragement would you give to other moms?

Valerie Ellis: You know, I think that's a really good question that's hard to answer because my kids are 14 and 11, and we don't have it all figured out. And we really.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Well, I do. I hate to tell you.

Valerie Ellis: Oh, show's over.

Dr. Jessica Peck: No, definitely. My kids would line up at the microphone to say, oh, oh, let's tell you about the ways we struggle.

Valerie Ellis: Yeah, so. But I think, you know, having that grace and having that long view of knowing that, God is working. We kind of talked about earlier how, you know, our. Our effort is. God honors that. But then he does so much more than our effort. And so I just want to encourage parents that, you know, you might be going through a tough moment right now with your kids, but God has gone ahead of you, and he's got them, and he has got you. And so, you know, as parents, we just. Believe me right now, as my kids, as teenagers, I have to remind myself, just be faithful. Just the next step, just the next, you know, choice that I feel like is best and try to keep my eyes on Jesus. And, you know, not that I don't keep my eyes on my kids and their needs, because they're both very different. And, so I don't want it to be like cookie cutter Jesus, but just as far as, like, when things aren't going well, just remember that God is with me. He's going before me, and he's got them.

Dr. Jessica Peck: You know, it's so hard, I hate to tell you, Valerie, because I'm just a little ahead of you on the curve in my kids ages. And it is really hard because as they grow, their problems get more serious, you know, and all of a sudden, that proverbial spilled milk when they're toddlers, or, you know, even the diaper drama, you know, that happens, or those things, you start to kind of long for those days. But I think that when you have these building blocks of faith that are in there, there is nothing, honestly, nothing more gratifying as a parent to see the seeds that you planted 10, 15 now, more than 20 years ago, and to see those seeds start to sprout in adulthood. Because sometimes you can pour in this effort. And just like you said, I mean, your family may go through a tough time. Your kids may go through a really tough time. You. They may have points where they're questioning their faith. You may go through really significant trials as a family together. And you think, okay, does this. Is this really working? Is this really building their faith? And then, all of a sudden, they'll come to you and they'll say something, and you can see, like, you know, even better than they know, because maybe they don't even remember that. But you think, oh, I know exactly where this was planted. I see. See that? And to see God's grace in that and to know that some things just aren't instantaneous. It's not like you read, you know, one devotional and, you know, a clip Springer. Okay, I've never even heard of a clip springer.

Dr. Jessica Peck: A rock leaper. But you think, like, okay, does that really matter?

Dr. Jessica Peck: Yes, it absolutely does matter. And I think that's where we can find joy and comfort in parents. And that's why I'm so grateful for you creating this devotional. And, you know, people say daily devotional, so is this daily. What do you say? What advice do you give to that?

Valerie Ellis: You know, I say that we've often tried to do a daily devotional, and it has never been daily. It's been maybe three days, skip a couple days, or, like, skip seven days. You're like, oh, yes, we were going to do that. So, I mean, there are 52. So, you know, if you wanted to start out doing one a week. But I think that, like you said, kids will probably ask for it more often than that, which is helpful. But I think any way that you use it is a good way to use it well.

Dr. Jessica Peck: And then you can just repeat it. And 52, I'm thinking, okay, grandparents, this would be a great gift to give not to your grandchildren, but to your children and say, hey, I'm going to.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Give you 20 minutes every Sunday night. I'm going to come over and. Or come through technology and read a devotional.

Dr. Jessica Peck: There. That is. That's really, really encouraging.

Valerie: Trusting God with our parenting takes time

Is there anything else you'd like to share, Valerie? Just last words of encouragement?

Valerie Ellis: Well, just going on our theme of, like, trusting God with our parenting, I think with, no matter the age of kids, but especially I wanted to say something to those moms of the kids for this age group. So, like, you're in that 7, 8, 9, 10 range where I feel like the seeds are sometimes taking a long time and sometimes it's nothing that you're doing. It's a combination of those seeds, seeds growing and maturity. So I found that, like, about this age range is when my kids start doing things that I'm like, oh, wait, I taught you that. I didn't think it was ever going to happen, but it happened. So, you know, just hang in there. And, you know, for all of the parents, grandparents, caregivers, just to remember that, you know, God is with you, he sees you and he cares for the little people in your life, you know, beyond what you can imagine.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Yeah. Going back to nature, Valerie, I think, like, our kids don't grow characteristics of, you know, they don't grow the fruit of the spirit like a bean sprout.

Dr. Jessica Peck: You know, that's pretty much the only thing that I can grow that grows in a day.

Dr. Jessica Peck: They grow like pineapples.

Dr. Jessica Peck: That was one thing that I really.

Dr. Jessica Peck: Learned that takes two to three years to grow, and yet there are people out there still watering the plants expectant that that seed is going to grow. That's what our kids need to see in us us that we are expectant and confident in the seeds of faith that we are planting. Well, the devotional is called Wild Faith devotional for kids, 52amazing animals that point to one great God. If you want to get this as a grown up, I won't judge you. Not at all. Because I'm kind of curious to see.

Dr. Jessica Peck: What else I can learn about nature.

Dr. Jessica Peck: And as you're learning and seeing God in nature, I pray that the Lord will bless you and keep you and make his way face to shine upon you and be so gracious to you. And we'll see you right back here tomorrow. We got something powerful for you. Can't wait.

Jeff Chamblee: The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.

Valerie Ellis is in studio with Jessica to talk about her new "Wild Faith Devotional" for Kids that features 52 incredible animals paired with biblical encouragement on topics today's kids care about like friendship, family, trying new things, perseverance and more. It offers a fun, engaging pathway for kids to pursue healthy spiritual, social, and emotional growth.

Rx for Hope: Point Your Kids to One Great God

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