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Alex McFarland: Talk about censorship and viewpoint discri in Internet world
Alex McFarland Well, good evening, everybody. Alex McFarland here sitting in for Abe Hamilton and very honored to be doing so. We have, one of the most significant shows that I think you're going to hear in many a day. And it's about free expression and how our thoughts increasingly are being controlled as our speech is being censored. We've got a very important guest that I want to bring up in just a moment. But I want to take you back to 1987. Many of you may remember President Reagan. June 12, 1987. Reagan was giving a speech near the Brandenburg Gate, and he gave a cry, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall. And it was the wall that had separated, east and West Berlin since 1961. And it really became a cultural moment. I well remember that I was in college and Reagan was shown on news, feeds just endlessly, tear down this wall. But we have an equally courageous guest, I believe, Janice Trey. And she is, crying out, tear down this firewall, the digital Berlin wall of the 21st century that really blocks what people in China are allowed to know about and read about. And, there's a lot we could say, but we're going to talk about censorship and viewpoint discri in the 21st century Internet world. Janice Trey is the board chair of the Epoch Times and NTD Television out of NewSong York City. She's an expert on big tech censorship and just the free communication throughout the world and US China policy. And, she has an incredible life story herself. But Ms. Trey, it's a great honor to have you with us here tonight on the American Family Radio Network. I welcome you.
Janice Trey Thank you, Alex, for having me on your program.
Janice Zhou was born and raised in China during cultural Revolutions
Alex McFarland So, there's a lot that I want to get into about world events and, the age in which we live. But I want to hear your story, if you would tell us your journey from China to being a leading voice for freedom in the West.
Janice Trey Yeah. I was born and raised, in the fourth labor camp in China during cultural Revolutions simply because my parents were college graduate engineers. We were sent to very, very remote area I would say child labor, first grade, second grade, third grade. Carrying fertilizers up to the top of the hill to grow the sugar cane that financed the school. And during harvest season I pick crops from the crop field. Work hours every day after school. if I could not fill up a full bag of crops picked from the field because they use hand tools or some crop drop on the field, I could not return to school. And that was my childhood. The school was more than one hour walking by foot walk past Crockfield Cemetery up the hill. School was on the other side. And The turning point for me was My father did not have a chance to learn Christianity. As an engineer. He knows Einstein believes in God and so he sent me to Hong Kong to study at a Christian school. my grandfather was a successful banker, he owned a bank. But was robbed by the Chinese Communist Party and he fled to Hong Kong. And so I had my first chance to learn Christianity was in Hong Kong. And at that time I compared the textbook of Hong Kong, China and mainland China. was Taiwan. All three locations with distinctively different stories on the same historical periods. And that was my eye opening of flight. Which versions was the true versions. And 1989 was the turning point. My best friend was in medical school, in Beijing. And he personally carried dozens of bodies, injured, heavily injured and dead bodies of students. And that triggered me to apply for colleges in the United States. And I came as a teenager by myself, not knowing any, anybody in the United States. And I am very grateful. my host family, Rhonda and Randy Goss, really took good care of me and I studied accounting and my mentor at church told me to go for the best program where I landed University of Texas. And so I finished my undergraduate and graduate program without any advanced placement from high school because I couldn't take any of those and while working two to three part time jobs to finance my schooling. But America is the land of freedoms and I was very very fortunate that to breathe the free air that the opportunities was just abundance. And so my mission has been to give a voice to the voiceless. Because I could have been killed in the cultural revolutions. I could have been killed during the Tiananmen Square massacre, June 4, 1989. And I could have been killed through the persecution of Falun Gong and other religious faith in China. the fact that I am alive today in front of you, Alex, and the audience, I have a responsibility, to, bring true freedoms. we all believe that we were created by God. And how could people be deprived the basic opportunity to have faith?
Alex McFarland You know, Janice, your story is amazing. In my mind, I'm just picturing you as a child harvesting sugar cane and being forced, to do such hard labor. And yet I look at what God has done in your life and what you have done through your work and diligence, as a child, even in the forced labor camps of communism. Did you have a sense even back then that God was with you and that God had a plan for your life?
Janice Trey I was fortunate enough to receive, paper, in the balloons from Taiwan. And he talked about, we don't ride on bicycles. We have cars. We have refrigerators, televisions. I asked my parents, what's refrigerator? It did not exist. And there was only one television set in the entire labor camp. And there were only two occasions we ever watched, and that was Mao Zedong and Zhou Enlai's funeral. Everybody stood in front of the TV wearing something black. I didn't have a black dress or black, thing. So we have to tear a piece of, cut a piece of black cloth to wrap around the shoulder. And so my affiliation of television was funerals. It was only when I went to Hong Kong that, wow, there were cartoons, there were news, and there were so many things that television can communicates. and it was, It was a very, very, special, When I went to Hong Kong, you know, sing hymns and. And all that. And. And that's, versus. Compared to cultural revolutions, the only song you can sing, were lyrics that changed to praising Mao Zedong as the Rising Sun. And no classical music, no Beethoven, no mo. Like, none of that. And so that's the systematic control, of the Chinese Communist Party trying to eliminate culture, eliminate classical culture. Not only the classical Chinese culture in China, but also any classics. Because, the, enforcement on atheistism. So I would say there was no idea. But, I have multiple, narrow escape, in terms of, life, death situations. so I felt like God was taking care of me. One time was like a landslide. And, we just passed and the rocks came right behind us and could have died. And then another situation. There was only one car for the whole labor camp. There was a military car, and there was no sitting. It was like everybody stood, at the back and like, riding, you know, on. It was. It was just, It was like kind of open, open truck types. And you stood at the back and And my dad almost died in. In when there was a tree that the branch was like flipping over. And so In some way I felt like that the fact that I exist. God must have given me the chance. And, And I do agree, appreciate. And then I also appreciate anyone that I encounter out of 8 billion people, whether you're audience or whether with Alex being the interviewer, God has put us together.
Alex McFarland And indeed, Indeed.
John Green: A powerful movement on the left to take us away from freedom
I've got to ask you, As you came to America and you experienced not only the freedom but the prosperity, At what point did you realize that there is a. A powerful movement on the left to take us away from constitutional freedom to socialism slash Marxism? M. Slash. And I. I've seen this, Janice, on 200 university campuses where I've spoken overt communism. American academics and many students that are very impressionable, professors that want us to become communistic. When did that realization that there's a struggle in America. When did that realization come to you?
Janice Trey It was very apparent, in my child's, My son's upbringing. I was shocked at the school forced him to read the NewSong York Times. Even at the Ah, like middle school and high school. I say deleted. I say cannot, Mom. I cannot delete that. That was school. Put it in. I have no choice of like unsubscribed. And And I would say, I see the shadows, you know, when they were like destruction of like historical Sectors and And all those like chaos created. That was like a playback kind of like a repay of like a movie about the cultural revolutions. It was just like changing the location and changing the scenes certainly was very obvious, during the Covid times. And why do they shut down everything? And like you can go to large grocery store or big you know, electronic store, but you cannot go to church. Like that is a suppression of freedom. And with my sons growing up, He likes debates. And he found that the debate topics were so left and he finally gave up. And so he changed to speech so he has a chance to pick topics that he like to speak rather than being forced. And he also find bias in terms of who win the speech contests. many of the judges were biased in terms of trying to promote certain ideologies. And even though, the winner might not be the one that have the best presentation skills. So I, feel very important to speak up. give me an example. The nine commentaries of the Chinese Communist Party. That was published 21 years ago by the Epoch Times shows how China systematically, brainwash people's minds. And it's like a playback. And then that book alone has, ah, trigger, you know, 400 some million people withdraw from the Chinese communist parties, and affiliate organizations. And then the second book, the Specter of Communism Ruling the World, showing how communism, using different name, infiltrated into education, legal systems, you know, everywhere in China.
Alex McFarland If you would hold that thought. We've got a break folks. The voice you're hearing is Janice Trey of the Epoch Times. We're talking about saving America from communism and the encroachment. That may be farther along than you realize. The Hamilton Corner is back after this. Don't go away.
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Alex McFarland Welcome back to the program. Alex, McFarland here sitting in for Abe Hamilton. And we're talking, gleaning from the wisdom of Janice Trey, CEO of the Epoch Times, a person who has distinguished herself in many, many ways. And before the break, she was talking about in China as communism came, the purge of the classics. And Ms. Trey mentioned during COVID tearing down of historical statues. You know, it's been my privilege for 10 years to teach political science at the college and grad levels. And I remember one of the very first statues torn down during COVID was in California, John Greenleaf Whittier. And, and that's interesting because Whittier was a Quaker minister and he was an abolitionist. He was against slavery. And John Greenleaf Whittier, there's a town named for him, Whittier, California. He convened the first anti slavery conference ever held in America. And he was very instrumental in helping abolish slavery. So it was a puzzlement to me that the woke left all about social justice, human rights. Would one of the very first statues they tore down was a man that legitimately did promote human rights and social justice. A Christian minister who was an abolitionist. But such is the case when there's a cultural Purge. We'll talk more about this and the state of our world and which future we might pursue with Janice Trey, our guest tonight on the Hamilton Corner.
Trey Law: How the Chinese Communist Party systematically eradicate culture
welcome back Ms. Trey, and thank you so much for making time to be with us.
Janice Trey Thank you. Alex. you bring out a, ah, very critical point. Let me give you an analogy. How the Chinese Communist Party systematically eradicate culture. Take Chinese characters have 5,000 years civilizations and histories. There's no reason to change the characters. But how Chinese Communist Party changes. For example, the word love was literally written as under the roof. There are people intervening. And in between the roof and the people, there was a heart. And what Chinese Communist Party did was remove the heart. So there's the roof, there are people, but there's no hearts. What's love without the hearts? I give you another example. The word progress, it was written, you know, in the historic text for 5000 years is a boat that takes you to better places. That's progress under communist rules. It was written as a boat that takes you to a, well. A well is the deck ends. You have like very limited views. Imagine you are at the, at the bottom of the well. All you could see a limiter. That's essentially what Communist Party want you to hear and see only limited views of what they trying to impose on you. So the destruction of the historic figures, regardless what the history of those historic figures. But that's part of history. And we should learn from good or bad, those are things that we should learn from. There's no reason to erase histor. And if someone attempted to erase history, that means they have something to hide. Just like the Internet, you know, why not let Chinese people, billion people, they are capable to go online and search the world Wide web and see what's going on. But in China there was censorship. So if in, in the Chinese version of the blouses, if you enter, you know, say Falun Gong, you actually get a anti Falun Gong. If you enter Dalai Lama, you get an anti Dalai Lama. Why you know, let people judge? Because the systematic persecution on Falun Gong, which based on truth, compassion, forbearance, and that's the universal values that's welcome in 170 countries around the world. And the United States has passed multiple resolutions, you know, respect Falun Gong and honor Falun Gong. And the founder has been nominated for Nobel Peace Prize for multiple times. Why not let people choose what they believe? That's the illumination. Like at the background you see the Shen Yun calendar. And Shen Yun Performing arts, present China before communism, 5000 years civilization in 2 hours 15 minutes with a world class classical Chinese dance with a live orchest integrated Huang Tuo Western Symphony with the unique Chinese musical instruments. And it's like a movie, a dance and orchestra, all three in one. But the Chinese Communist Party tried to sabotage, for example, earlier this year at Kennedy center, in the opening nights, you know, they had a bomb threats. You know, just trying to turn away ticket holders to come to see the shows and put the dance dancers and the musicians in the, in the cold that was in February, you know, without m. You know, warm clothing because they were rehearsing and they, they didn't plan to have like very warm coats. And so it's just the harassments. You know, we all know that that's like if someone want to do a bomb, they're not going to give you a bomb threat. You know, they would just ignite the bomb. But the, the threat was just trying to, to stop people from going to see Shen Yun. And so it's so important. Like in fact in China people will watch movie that's been censored. And there are people who know that if Communist Party trying to stop people, even stop politicians for coming to see Shen Yun, and trying to harass them and all that, then actually they are in Australia. The member parliaments, there's so many of those come. They said they could have a, a parliamentary meeting at the Shen Yun venue because they, they show up to, to all this, Chinese consulates that this is a free countries. We are not going to listen to your, you know, telling us what to watch and what not to watch. And so I think what it really takes is courage to stand up and to to, to find that, find the truth. You know, what's the truth that's being hidden. And what's the agenda? Like what you talk about in America is the systematic infiltration. They use Lawfare. There's the transnational repression using Lawfare and you know, fifth lawsuits. I give you an example where the Shen Yun campus was, located. they tried to bribe the IRS agents, to remove the nonprofit status and you know, the FBI, you know, Agent Wolf. And so they found out and at the end it was charged the people, who was doing criminal activities. And so that shows the extent and it may come very invisibly, you know, through the various censorships, you know, through big tech and American companies. Sometimes we may not know that what we've Been what? Being censored? You know what have they suppressed us from viewing?
Google has blocked Epoch Times and NATV from Google News
Alex McFarland Let me ask you this, do you know if any of the big tech like Google, has tried to circumvent the digital firewall or have they just been complicit with it?
Janice Trey the censorships. Take an example. with Epoch Times, I'm the bought chairs and I passed the baton on the CEO roads to my developed training successors. during my CEO times, I have filed a official complaint with the Federal Trade Commissioner, and showing how Google have removed Epoch Times from Google News. if you're not subscribed to the Epoch Times, you won't find articles. Every day Epoch times produce over 200 original articles, over 5,000 per month, but you couldn't find it. And so that's the level of censorship. I give you another example. Facebook in 2019, July 2019, we have like 9 million views and actually we have like 60 million followers, on Epoch Times and NADTV. But then they suppress it and they even stop Ned TV and Epoch Times from running advertising advertisements. I mean that's a pure discrimination. You know. NewSong York Times, NADV are American companies and founded by US Citizens located in NewSong York cities. And there's no reason that we are not allowed to run advertisement because it was growing about 17,000 new subscribers from the Facebook ads per month. And so they, they didn't want Epoch Times and NATV to grow faster and so they suppressed that. And it's continued, you know.
Alex McFarland Yeah. May I tell you something? last year, well, for 27 years, I've organized a lot of worldview and apologetics and Christian conferences and we've had a lot of great speakers. Last year, one of whom was Charlie Kirk before he was shot of Turning Point usa, a friend of mine, Facebook would not run our ads. we have bought ads for all sorts of events and we had other speakers, other Christian speakers. But last year, Charlie Kirk was our biggest speaker. Facebook would not run the ad. And we went back and forth. We wasted a couple of months that we could have been promoting. Finally they did let us run an ad for our speaker series. And we listed all of our speakers. But the one they would not let us list in our ad was Charlie Kirk, even though I had. Yeah, so it's, it's there, isn't it?
Janice Trey It's, I, I've been to many Turning Point events. I personally spoke to and met, met Charlie Kirk and a few days before the murder he was in South Korea. He was astonished to find out about the infiltration of the Chinese Communist Party in South Korea. And he wanted to speak up on that. I have friends who were with Charlie, multiple friends with Charlie at South Korea. And is the systematic suppressions as you know people as famous as Charlie but even every citizens and also the communication tool. Let me give you an example. Recently there were people in China using signal and somehow the Chinese Communist Party find a back door to crack. And and people were detained, arrested because they have a signal check groups. And so it's very vulnerable. Some of you may remember I think back in 2021 when Pala was deplatformed overnight. And so big tech have a lot of dominance. I mean overnight, the data center, the server and also the app store kick you out. And so just trying to kind of like put a death clause on that. And that's why tools like SAFE meets S A F E M M E E T. It is a very powerful secure communication tool end to end. It says own server and own data center. And the encryptions will encrypt all the phone call, chat, video conferencing, file sharing everything frame by frame in encryption mode. So you can be assured that none of those information could be infiltrated or could be hacked. And the way they require a local key so the contents will always stay with you. Only the Save Me company does not have it and it does not use cell phone. so there's no location tracking because it's not about making money. Unlike Safe whatsapps they use phone number because they can track your location, they can put advertisements. And cell phone is very vulnerable for hacking. And so that's why Save Me is a powerful tool to for people who want to communicate securely and safely. And I shared the Save Me too with Yako. His sister was human trafficked for six years and he spoke up about her sister was eventually free. And he did a lot, he does a lot of counseling for those victims of human trafficking. And even after they, they regain freedom they are always afraid of being tracked. And so having the tools like SafeMeeds you know is a great solution. And anyone welcome to go to Apple Store, Google Store and just find SafeMeeds or go to websites safemet us and able to get the tools. it's. It seems sounds simple but think of like a single tool that combine phone call, chat, video conference and file Sharing in one single tool that also remove vulnerability when you're using different platforms and different tools.
Alex McFarland asks Janice Trey about the 2024 presidential election
Alex McFarland You know, I want to ask you a question and we'll have to come back on the other side of the break to do this justice. But the 2024 election, you know, it was by Biden then, it wasn't Biden. And you know, on a Thursday, Joe Biden, he, he basically said, there is no way I'm going to leave this race. And yet Sunday, he had left that race and without winning any primaries, Kamala Harris, in very undemocratic fashion was made the nominee. you know what, we'll, we'll do this after the break. I want to get your thoughts on the, the election. And this is Alex McFarland. Janice Trey, before we take this commercial break, is there a website you would like to direct people to?
Janice Trey Yes, for subscriptions go to the epoch times. Epoch epochtimes.com and subscribes and, and to get the free, platforms, SafeMed s a f e m e e t us and you can download and use the secure communication tool and in particular for your medical records, anything private. You certainly don't want to live in the hands of big tech.
Alex McFarland Hold that thought. we're going to come back more with Janice Trey, the hamilton corner.
Hamilton Corner: International Olympic Committee bans biological men from women's events
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Alex McFarland: We need to call President Trump to urge China reforms
Alex McFarland Welcome back to the program. Alex McFarland here. Before we resume our conversation with Janice Trey, I remind everybody we have a live show called Exploring the Word heard Monday through Friday, 3 to 4 Central, 4 to 5 Eastern and then my own website, which is alexmcfarland.com We've got a great, great 26 of events all around the country. Our summer youth camps growing every, every year. But also, if you would twice, I will be at the COVID the Billy Graham Training center in western North Carolina to do Bible prophecy studies, apologetics, God and country. We would love to have you there. Please, if you would check out Alex McFarland dot com. Well, I am just loving our conversation with Janice Trey and her amazing story, but also her challenge, that we need to value our freedom and be aware that the censorship and the religious discrimination and viewpoint suppression that is going on in China, it could grow here in America. And that we need to call President Trump to tell President Xi Jinping to tear down the digital firewall and bring genuine freedom of speech, freedom of thought and religious freedom to China. but, Ms. Trey, I want to thank you for being with us and really thank you for your diligence and your commitment not only to journalism, but to Christ and to truth. you're quite an inspiration and I thank you.
Janice Trey Thank you, Alex. And when I watch, your episode about hope, I mean, it really resonates with me because think of like, if President Trump speaks, the persecuted Christians around the world will listen and will listen with hopes is not only in us, but it's really around the world. And if you think of, opportunities to end communism, this is probably the best time ever. You know, with a president who is courageous to speak up and with the Secretary of State who, who has been unwelcome by the communist regimes during his Senator Tenu. and also with, family, Cuban backgrounds. There's actually no true freedoms until we end communism once and for all. Because there is the threat from the nuclear power from North Korea. And there's also Cuba is so close to United States back then, that JFK stopped it, you know, the crisis. But you know, back actors can use Cuba as the staging place. And so only when we remove communism, which is Antichrist, and then we have freedoms. You know, the Great Fire War in China doesn't only block the cold, it blocks solidarity. It cuts human from itself. It's only with moral leaderships can reopen the channels that make humankind foolish. And you know, we are all like brothers and sisters around the world. And regardless of color, of the skins, background, I mean, United States citizens mostly kind, of, from all walks of life. And that's our diversity and that's our ancestors. And so we were only able to preserve freedom in America if we all speak up and if we all support, journalism that is traditional journalism that speak to the truth, that preserve traditions and that gives hope like the Epoch Times and nddtv. And it's also important that we have to preserve the God Given opportunity, to be reconnected with the divines. You know, regardless of the label or naming, whether someone is Buddhi and Tibetans or Falun Gong practitioners or Catholics, or Jewish, you know, it is really about, our opportunity to, to look into faith and to be reconnected, you know, to the divine. And that is mission critical. And asking Xi Jinping to tear down the digital firewall. It's a very simple act. And, and Xi Jinping is handling power, struggle inside China. His health conditions have been deteriorating. He needs us more than us needs China. And President Trump or any of the cabinet secretaries or Congress can all ask Xi Jinping to tear down a firewall. Another thing that all of the viewers, and listeners can do is call you, your U.S. senators, to support, Senate Bill 817 is the Falun Gong Protection Act. Specifically talk about forced organ harvesting where people are being killed on demand for their organs. And that will be a strong message to China. And it has unanimously passed in house. And then just waiting for Senates to pass. And so please call your the senators, on that Senate builds a 17, initiated by Senator Ted Cruz.
Alex McFarland Wow. do you know, is there a website about that bill that you're aware of?
Janice Trey So, by search on The Senate bill, 187s will pop up the information. And another website that you can read more about is called Dafoh Dr. Against forced organ Harvesting. That have tons, tons of information. And for almost 20 years, the forced organ harvesting has been ongoing. People are being killed on demand. And when a regime will kill people on demand for the organs, they don't respect lives. So imagine match. They may not put the right match tissue match. They will match the blood type, may not match the tissue type because they want to make money. So it's high risk for even patients to go to China to get the organ, transplants. Many of those die, you know, soon afterwards. And so, it is a, important, I mean life is most precious and, and nobody should be killed.
Alex McFarland of course what, concerns you more? The rise of communism or the rise of Sharia law here in America?
Janice Trey Oh, yes, it's I, I don't take for granted the American freedoms, the constitutions and also how America is founded. You know, they came from the Mayflower because they pursue religious freedoms. And if we let back actors to infiltrate and stop us, you know, from. And I was actually was very surprised that you know, in schools, you know, many schools were not Allowed to, you know, publicly pray or you know, having the ten Commandments, you know, now have some changes in some states. But you know, this is a country that was founded on religious freedoms.
Alex McFarland Yes.
Janice Trey You know, all presidents, when they took the oath, you know, they press, they have their hands on the Bibles and you know, in the money built in God we trust. But are we living that? Are we trying to, you know, help other people, people around the world, whether it's Chinese, you know, whether it's like the persecuted Christians, you know, in, in Nigeria or in China or those who want to have faith, you know, like the Falun practitioner in China or the Christians in North Korea and or in Cuba everywhere. And so it's our responsibility, I would say, it's our job job, to honor God and to enable other people who are being persecuted to have the chance. Like as simple as take down the digital firewalls. So that information, freefall information rather than in the total terror regimes like the Communist Party is not only misinformation, it's disinformation, it's manipulation. It's totally distorted, pictures and we. If we don't take actions, it's just like a cancer cells, it will only multiply and it will suffocate. And just like the COVID it could have contained inside China, but it was purposely let patients travel outside China and spread to the world. So we have to understand that's really important in Communist party's minds. freedom, democracy do not coexist. That's why you remember in Hong Kong, like the Umbrella movement or the white paper movements, they were being crushed. Why? Because the existence of Taiwan ah democratic society and Hong Kong used to be a British colony with the freedoms that is a stark contrast with the company Communist ideology and brainwashing propaganda about freedoms and freedom is very precious. And we should all ah, do take our. Takes our responsibility for our children and our grandchildren and for everybody.
Trey: I think COVID was a dress rehearsal for global totalitarian control
Alex McFarland Ms. Trey, I've got to ask you, has a thorough, comprehensive.
Alex McFarland Analysis of COVID been done? I mean everything that was the. Because frankly I think it was really a dress rehearsal for global totalitarian control.
Janice Trey Really it was very sad. Epoch Times was the one of the only media that put up the documentaries in the very early stage of COVID to show the origin of COVID Wuhan Lab. And also because Epoch Times continue reporting. In fact, Epoch Times reported about a pandemic in China in December 2019, a few months before the rest of the World knew. We have received tons of, tons of thank you and appreciation letter from our readers who read Epoch Times on vpn. And while they travel to China, they changed the return flights and were able to leave China before the lockdown when their relatives and colleagues who were on the schedule, same return flights who didn't make the change on the flights they die of COVID in China. So timely information, safe lights. I think it's still actually during COVID Times we have reporters on the ground in China. We don't just take the government statistics. We actually went to cemeteries, we went to funeral homes, we went to hospitals, we interviewed nurses, doctors when they got home. And so for security reasons we have tons and tons of information. But NewSong York Times and Net were suppressed by the big tech. And so they put labels, you know, say that we were doing misinformation, disinformation when we were simply telling the truth. So what you talk about a dress rehearsal. I don't think most people are prepared for another pandemic. And I think we need to be prepared because our electric grid is very vulnerable boats for attack, you know, with drones. Most of the drones, you know, the largest market share of drones are produced by China. And with drones you can easily carry poisons and drop it to reservoir, drop it over farmlands, you know, to poisons, you know, the food supplies. We live in a very vulnerable time and that's why ending communism, ending information blockage. And that's where we have true transparencies. And that's when our lives have ah better protections with rule of law rather than total Turing regimes. That is not only ruling China, but using multiple methods, transnational repressions to force other countries and to infiltrates and basically using monetary tactics to infant many media out there. So I would ask the viewers and the listeners to really think twice of what you may hear. because the truth like what Epoch Times and EDTV had been reporting and oftentimes being suppressed. So subscribe so that you won't miss critical information. In fact we report the SARS pressure disease 3 weeks before Beijing emitted the pandemic and Wall Street Journal knowledge. And so timely information could save lives.
Alex McFarland Ms. Trey, thank you so much and I appreciate that. And folks, I'm reminded of a quote by Benjamin Franklin. Benjamin Franklin said, everybody loves the fruits of freedom, but few are willing to tend the tree that bears the fruits. Remember, preserving America, it's all of our privilege and duty. Pray for God and country. Thanks for listening. Blessings today and in the new year. Be bold. Stand for truth. The views and opinions expressed in this.
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Hamilton: God has called us to be ambassadors even in this dark moment
Abraham Hamilton III Darkness is not an affirmative force. It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.
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Alex McFarland: Talk about censorship and viewpoint discri in Internet world
Alex McFarland Well, good evening, everybody. Alex McFarland here sitting in for Abe Hamilton and very honored to be doing so. We have, one of the most significant shows that I think you're going to hear in many a day. And it's about free expression and how our thoughts increasingly are being controlled as our speech is being censored. We've got a very important guest that I want to bring up in just a moment. But I want to take you back to 1987. Many of you may remember President Reagan. June 12, 1987. Reagan was giving a speech near the Brandenburg Gate, and he gave a cry, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall. And it was the wall that had separated, east and West Berlin since 1961. And it really became a cultural moment. I well remember that I was in college and Reagan was shown on news, feeds just endlessly, tear down this wall. But we have an equally courageous guest, I believe, Janice Trey. And she is, crying out, tear down this firewall, the digital Berlin wall of the 21st century that really blocks what people in China are allowed to know about and read about. And, there's a lot we could say, but we're going to talk about censorship and viewpoint discri in the 21st century Internet world. Janice Trey is the board chair of the Epoch Times and NTD Television out of NewSong York City. She's an expert on big tech censorship and just the free communication throughout the world and US China policy. And, she has an incredible life story herself. But Ms. Trey, it's a great honor to have you with us here tonight on the American Family Radio Network. I welcome you.
Janice Trey Thank you, Alex, for having me on your program.
Janice Zhou was born and raised in China during cultural Revolutions
Alex McFarland So, there's a lot that I want to get into about world events and, the age in which we live. But I want to hear your story, if you would tell us your journey from China to being a leading voice for freedom in the West.
Janice Trey Yeah. I was born and raised, in the fourth labor camp in China during cultural Revolutions simply because my parents were college graduate engineers. We were sent to very, very remote area I would say child labor, first grade, second grade, third grade. Carrying fertilizers up to the top of the hill to grow the sugar cane that financed the school. And during harvest season I pick crops from the crop field. Work hours every day after school. if I could not fill up a full bag of crops picked from the field because they use hand tools or some crop drop on the field, I could not return to school. And that was my childhood. The school was more than one hour walking by foot walk past Crockfield Cemetery up the hill. School was on the other side. And The turning point for me was My father did not have a chance to learn Christianity. As an engineer. He knows Einstein believes in God and so he sent me to Hong Kong to study at a Christian school. my grandfather was a successful banker, he owned a bank. But was robbed by the Chinese Communist Party and he fled to Hong Kong. And so I had my first chance to learn Christianity was in Hong Kong. And at that time I compared the textbook of Hong Kong, China and mainland China. was Taiwan. All three locations with distinctively different stories on the same historical periods. And that was my eye opening of flight. Which versions was the true versions. And 1989 was the turning point. My best friend was in medical school, in Beijing. And he personally carried dozens of bodies, injured, heavily injured and dead bodies of students. And that triggered me to apply for colleges in the United States. And I came as a teenager by myself, not knowing any, anybody in the United States. And I am very grateful. my host family, Rhonda and Randy Goss, really took good care of me and I studied accounting and my mentor at church told me to go for the best program where I landed University of Texas. And so I finished my undergraduate and graduate program without any advanced placement from high school because I couldn't take any of those and while working two to three part time jobs to finance my schooling. But America is the land of freedoms and I was very very fortunate that to breathe the free air that the opportunities was just abundance. And so my mission has been to give a voice to the voiceless. Because I could have been killed in the cultural revolutions. I could have been killed during the Tiananmen Square massacre, June 4, 1989. And I could have been killed through the persecution of Falun Gong and other religious faith in China. the fact that I am alive today in front of you, Alex, and the audience, I have a responsibility, to, bring true freedoms. we all believe that we were created by God. And how could people be deprived the basic opportunity to have faith?
Alex McFarland You know, Janice, your story is amazing. In my mind, I'm just picturing you as a child harvesting sugar cane and being forced, to do such hard labor. And yet I look at what God has done in your life and what you have done through your work and diligence, as a child, even in the forced labor camps of communism. Did you have a sense even back then that God was with you and that God had a plan for your life?
Janice Trey I was fortunate enough to receive, paper, in the balloons from Taiwan. And he talked about, we don't ride on bicycles. We have cars. We have refrigerators, televisions. I asked my parents, what's refrigerator? It did not exist. And there was only one television set in the entire labor camp. And there were only two occasions we ever watched, and that was Mao Zedong and Zhou Enlai's funeral. Everybody stood in front of the TV wearing something black. I didn't have a black dress or black, thing. So we have to tear a piece of, cut a piece of black cloth to wrap around the shoulder. And so my affiliation of television was funerals. It was only when I went to Hong Kong that, wow, there were cartoons, there were news, and there were so many things that television can communicates. and it was, It was a very, very, special, When I went to Hong Kong, you know, sing hymns and. And all that. And. And that's, versus. Compared to cultural revolutions, the only song you can sing, were lyrics that changed to praising Mao Zedong as the Rising Sun. And no classical music, no Beethoven, no mo. Like, none of that. And so that's the systematic control, of the Chinese Communist Party trying to eliminate culture, eliminate classical culture. Not only the classical Chinese culture in China, but also any classics. Because, the, enforcement on atheistism. So I would say there was no idea. But, I have multiple, narrow escape, in terms of, life, death situations. so I felt like God was taking care of me. One time was like a landslide. And, we just passed and the rocks came right behind us and could have died. And then another situation. There was only one car for the whole labor camp. There was a military car, and there was no sitting. It was like everybody stood, at the back and like, riding, you know, on. It was. It was just, It was like kind of open, open truck types. And you stood at the back and And my dad almost died in. In when there was a tree that the branch was like flipping over. And so In some way I felt like that the fact that I exist. God must have given me the chance. And, And I do agree, appreciate. And then I also appreciate anyone that I encounter out of 8 billion people, whether you're audience or whether with Alex being the interviewer, God has put us together.
Alex McFarland And indeed, Indeed.
John Green: A powerful movement on the left to take us away from freedom
I've got to ask you, As you came to America and you experienced not only the freedom but the prosperity, At what point did you realize that there is a. A powerful movement on the left to take us away from constitutional freedom to socialism slash Marxism? M. Slash. And I. I've seen this, Janice, on 200 university campuses where I've spoken overt communism. American academics and many students that are very impressionable, professors that want us to become communistic. When did that realization that there's a struggle in America. When did that realization come to you?
Janice Trey It was very apparent, in my child's, My son's upbringing. I was shocked at the school forced him to read the NewSong York Times. Even at the Ah, like middle school and high school. I say deleted. I say cannot, Mom. I cannot delete that. That was school. Put it in. I have no choice of like unsubscribed. And And I would say, I see the shadows, you know, when they were like destruction of like historical Sectors and And all those like chaos created. That was like a playback kind of like a repay of like a movie about the cultural revolutions. It was just like changing the location and changing the scenes certainly was very obvious, during the Covid times. And why do they shut down everything? And like you can go to large grocery store or big you know, electronic store, but you cannot go to church. Like that is a suppression of freedom. And with my sons growing up, He likes debates. And he found that the debate topics were so left and he finally gave up. And so he changed to speech so he has a chance to pick topics that he like to speak rather than being forced. And he also find bias in terms of who win the speech contests. many of the judges were biased in terms of trying to promote certain ideologies. And even though, the winner might not be the one that have the best presentation skills. So I, feel very important to speak up. give me an example. The nine commentaries of the Chinese Communist Party. That was published 21 years ago by the Epoch Times shows how China systematically, brainwash people's minds. And it's like a playback. And then that book alone has, ah, trigger, you know, 400 some million people withdraw from the Chinese communist parties, and affiliate organizations. And then the second book, the Specter of Communism Ruling the World, showing how communism, using different name, infiltrated into education, legal systems, you know, everywhere in China.
Alex McFarland If you would hold that thought. We've got a break folks. The voice you're hearing is Janice Trey of the Epoch Times. We're talking about saving America from communism and the encroachment. That may be farther along than you realize. The Hamilton Corner is back after this. Don't go away.
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Alex McFarland Welcome back to the program. Alex, McFarland here sitting in for Abe Hamilton. And we're talking, gleaning from the wisdom of Janice Trey, CEO of the Epoch Times, a person who has distinguished herself in many, many ways. And before the break, she was talking about in China as communism came, the purge of the classics. And Ms. Trey mentioned during COVID tearing down of historical statues. You know, it's been my privilege for 10 years to teach political science at the college and grad levels. And I remember one of the very first statues torn down during COVID was in California, John Greenleaf Whittier. And, and that's interesting because Whittier was a Quaker minister and he was an abolitionist. He was against slavery. And John Greenleaf Whittier, there's a town named for him, Whittier, California. He convened the first anti slavery conference ever held in America. And he was very instrumental in helping abolish slavery. So it was a puzzlement to me that the woke left all about social justice, human rights. Would one of the very first statues they tore down was a man that legitimately did promote human rights and social justice. A Christian minister who was an abolitionist. But such is the case when there's a cultural Purge. We'll talk more about this and the state of our world and which future we might pursue with Janice Trey, our guest tonight on the Hamilton Corner.
Trey Law: How the Chinese Communist Party systematically eradicate culture
welcome back Ms. Trey, and thank you so much for making time to be with us.
Janice Trey Thank you. Alex. you bring out a, ah, very critical point. Let me give you an analogy. How the Chinese Communist Party systematically eradicate culture. Take Chinese characters have 5,000 years civilizations and histories. There's no reason to change the characters. But how Chinese Communist Party changes. For example, the word love was literally written as under the roof. There are people intervening. And in between the roof and the people, there was a heart. And what Chinese Communist Party did was remove the heart. So there's the roof, there are people, but there's no hearts. What's love without the hearts? I give you another example. The word progress, it was written, you know, in the historic text for 5000 years is a boat that takes you to better places. That's progress under communist rules. It was written as a boat that takes you to a, well. A well is the deck ends. You have like very limited views. Imagine you are at the, at the bottom of the well. All you could see a limiter. That's essentially what Communist Party want you to hear and see only limited views of what they trying to impose on you. So the destruction of the historic figures, regardless what the history of those historic figures. But that's part of history. And we should learn from good or bad, those are things that we should learn from. There's no reason to erase histor. And if someone attempted to erase history, that means they have something to hide. Just like the Internet, you know, why not let Chinese people, billion people, they are capable to go online and search the world Wide web and see what's going on. But in China there was censorship. So if in, in the Chinese version of the blouses, if you enter, you know, say Falun Gong, you actually get a anti Falun Gong. If you enter Dalai Lama, you get an anti Dalai Lama. Why you know, let people judge? Because the systematic persecution on Falun Gong, which based on truth, compassion, forbearance, and that's the universal values that's welcome in 170 countries around the world. And the United States has passed multiple resolutions, you know, respect Falun Gong and honor Falun Gong. And the founder has been nominated for Nobel Peace Prize for multiple times. Why not let people choose what they believe? That's the illumination. Like at the background you see the Shen Yun calendar. And Shen Yun Performing arts, present China before communism, 5000 years civilization in 2 hours 15 minutes with a world class classical Chinese dance with a live orchest integrated Huang Tuo Western Symphony with the unique Chinese musical instruments. And it's like a movie, a dance and orchestra, all three in one. But the Chinese Communist Party tried to sabotage, for example, earlier this year at Kennedy center, in the opening nights, you know, they had a bomb threats. You know, just trying to turn away ticket holders to come to see the shows and put the dance dancers and the musicians in the, in the cold that was in February, you know, without m. You know, warm clothing because they were rehearsing and they, they didn't plan to have like very warm coats. And so it's just the harassments. You know, we all know that that's like if someone want to do a bomb, they're not going to give you a bomb threat. You know, they would just ignite the bomb. But the, the threat was just trying to, to stop people from going to see Shen Yun. And so it's so important. Like in fact in China people will watch movie that's been censored. And there are people who know that if Communist Party trying to stop people, even stop politicians for coming to see Shen Yun, and trying to harass them and all that, then actually they are in Australia. The member parliaments, there's so many of those come. They said they could have a, a parliamentary meeting at the Shen Yun venue because they, they show up to, to all this, Chinese consulates that this is a free countries. We are not going to listen to your, you know, telling us what to watch and what not to watch. And so I think what it really takes is courage to stand up and to to, to find that, find the truth. You know, what's the truth that's being hidden. And what's the agenda? Like what you talk about in America is the systematic infiltration. They use Lawfare. There's the transnational repression using Lawfare and you know, fifth lawsuits. I give you an example where the Shen Yun campus was, located. they tried to bribe the IRS agents, to remove the nonprofit status and you know, the FBI, you know, Agent Wolf. And so they found out and at the end it was charged the people, who was doing criminal activities. And so that shows the extent and it may come very invisibly, you know, through the various censorships, you know, through big tech and American companies. Sometimes we may not know that what we've Been what? Being censored? You know what have they suppressed us from viewing?
Google has blocked Epoch Times and NATV from Google News
Alex McFarland Let me ask you this, do you know if any of the big tech like Google, has tried to circumvent the digital firewall or have they just been complicit with it?
Janice Trey the censorships. Take an example. with Epoch Times, I'm the bought chairs and I passed the baton on the CEO roads to my developed training successors. during my CEO times, I have filed a official complaint with the Federal Trade Commissioner, and showing how Google have removed Epoch Times from Google News. if you're not subscribed to the Epoch Times, you won't find articles. Every day Epoch times produce over 200 original articles, over 5,000 per month, but you couldn't find it. And so that's the level of censorship. I give you another example. Facebook in 2019, July 2019, we have like 9 million views and actually we have like 60 million followers, on Epoch Times and NADTV. But then they suppress it and they even stop Ned TV and Epoch Times from running advertising advertisements. I mean that's a pure discrimination. You know. NewSong York Times, NADV are American companies and founded by US Citizens located in NewSong York cities. And there's no reason that we are not allowed to run advertisement because it was growing about 17,000 new subscribers from the Facebook ads per month. And so they, they didn't want Epoch Times and NATV to grow faster and so they suppressed that. And it's continued, you know.
Alex McFarland Yeah. May I tell you something? last year, well, for 27 years, I've organized a lot of worldview and apologetics and Christian conferences and we've had a lot of great speakers. Last year, one of whom was Charlie Kirk before he was shot of Turning Point usa, a friend of mine, Facebook would not run our ads. we have bought ads for all sorts of events and we had other speakers, other Christian speakers. But last year, Charlie Kirk was our biggest speaker. Facebook would not run the ad. And we went back and forth. We wasted a couple of months that we could have been promoting. Finally they did let us run an ad for our speaker series. And we listed all of our speakers. But the one they would not let us list in our ad was Charlie Kirk, even though I had. Yeah, so it's, it's there, isn't it?
Janice Trey It's, I, I've been to many Turning Point events. I personally spoke to and met, met Charlie Kirk and a few days before the murder he was in South Korea. He was astonished to find out about the infiltration of the Chinese Communist Party in South Korea. And he wanted to speak up on that. I have friends who were with Charlie, multiple friends with Charlie at South Korea. And is the systematic suppressions as you know people as famous as Charlie but even every citizens and also the communication tool. Let me give you an example. Recently there were people in China using signal and somehow the Chinese Communist Party find a back door to crack. And and people were detained, arrested because they have a signal check groups. And so it's very vulnerable. Some of you may remember I think back in 2021 when Pala was deplatformed overnight. And so big tech have a lot of dominance. I mean overnight, the data center, the server and also the app store kick you out. And so just trying to kind of like put a death clause on that. And that's why tools like SAFE meets S A F E M M E E T. It is a very powerful secure communication tool end to end. It says own server and own data center. And the encryptions will encrypt all the phone call, chat, video conferencing, file sharing everything frame by frame in encryption mode. So you can be assured that none of those information could be infiltrated or could be hacked. And the way they require a local key so the contents will always stay with you. Only the Save Me company does not have it and it does not use cell phone. so there's no location tracking because it's not about making money. Unlike Safe whatsapps they use phone number because they can track your location, they can put advertisements. And cell phone is very vulnerable for hacking. And so that's why Save Me is a powerful tool to for people who want to communicate securely and safely. And I shared the Save Me too with Yako. His sister was human trafficked for six years and he spoke up about her sister was eventually free. And he did a lot, he does a lot of counseling for those victims of human trafficking. And even after they, they regain freedom they are always afraid of being tracked. And so having the tools like SafeMeeds you know is a great solution. And anyone welcome to go to Apple Store, Google Store and just find SafeMeeds or go to websites safemet us and able to get the tools. it's. It seems sounds simple but think of like a single tool that combine phone call, chat, video conference and file Sharing in one single tool that also remove vulnerability when you're using different platforms and different tools.
Alex McFarland asks Janice Trey about the 2024 presidential election
Alex McFarland You know, I want to ask you a question and we'll have to come back on the other side of the break to do this justice. But the 2024 election, you know, it was by Biden then, it wasn't Biden. And you know, on a Thursday, Joe Biden, he, he basically said, there is no way I'm going to leave this race. And yet Sunday, he had left that race and without winning any primaries, Kamala Harris, in very undemocratic fashion was made the nominee. you know what, we'll, we'll do this after the break. I want to get your thoughts on the, the election. And this is Alex McFarland. Janice Trey, before we take this commercial break, is there a website you would like to direct people to?
Janice Trey Yes, for subscriptions go to the epoch times. Epoch epochtimes.com and subscribes and, and to get the free, platforms, SafeMed s a f e m e e t us and you can download and use the secure communication tool and in particular for your medical records, anything private. You certainly don't want to live in the hands of big tech.
Alex McFarland Hold that thought. we're going to come back more with Janice Trey, the hamilton corner.
Hamilton Corner: International Olympic Committee bans biological men from women's events
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Alex McFarland: We need to call President Trump to urge China reforms
Alex McFarland Welcome back to the program. Alex McFarland here. Before we resume our conversation with Janice Trey, I remind everybody we have a live show called Exploring the Word heard Monday through Friday, 3 to 4 Central, 4 to 5 Eastern and then my own website, which is alexmcfarland.com We've got a great, great 26 of events all around the country. Our summer youth camps growing every, every year. But also, if you would twice, I will be at the COVID the Billy Graham Training center in western North Carolina to do Bible prophecy studies, apologetics, God and country. We would love to have you there. Please, if you would check out Alex McFarland dot com. Well, I am just loving our conversation with Janice Trey and her amazing story, but also her challenge, that we need to value our freedom and be aware that the censorship and the religious discrimination and viewpoint suppression that is going on in China, it could grow here in America. And that we need to call President Trump to tell President Xi Jinping to tear down the digital firewall and bring genuine freedom of speech, freedom of thought and religious freedom to China. but, Ms. Trey, I want to thank you for being with us and really thank you for your diligence and your commitment not only to journalism, but to Christ and to truth. you're quite an inspiration and I thank you.
Janice Trey Thank you, Alex. And when I watch, your episode about hope, I mean, it really resonates with me because think of like, if President Trump speaks, the persecuted Christians around the world will listen and will listen with hopes is not only in us, but it's really around the world. And if you think of, opportunities to end communism, this is probably the best time ever. You know, with a president who is courageous to speak up and with the Secretary of State who, who has been unwelcome by the communist regimes during his Senator Tenu. and also with, family, Cuban backgrounds. There's actually no true freedoms until we end communism once and for all. Because there is the threat from the nuclear power from North Korea. And there's also Cuba is so close to United States back then, that JFK stopped it, you know, the crisis. But you know, back actors can use Cuba as the staging place. And so only when we remove communism, which is Antichrist, and then we have freedoms. You know, the Great Fire War in China doesn't only block the cold, it blocks solidarity. It cuts human from itself. It's only with moral leaderships can reopen the channels that make humankind foolish. And you know, we are all like brothers and sisters around the world. And regardless of color, of the skins, background, I mean, United States citizens mostly kind, of, from all walks of life. And that's our diversity and that's our ancestors. And so we were only able to preserve freedom in America if we all speak up and if we all support, journalism that is traditional journalism that speak to the truth, that preserve traditions and that gives hope like the Epoch Times and nddtv. And it's also important that we have to preserve the God Given opportunity, to be reconnected with the divines. You know, regardless of the label or naming, whether someone is Buddhi and Tibetans or Falun Gong practitioners or Catholics, or Jewish, you know, it is really about, our opportunity to, to look into faith and to be reconnected, you know, to the divine. And that is mission critical. And asking Xi Jinping to tear down the digital firewall. It's a very simple act. And, and Xi Jinping is handling power, struggle inside China. His health conditions have been deteriorating. He needs us more than us needs China. And President Trump or any of the cabinet secretaries or Congress can all ask Xi Jinping to tear down a firewall. Another thing that all of the viewers, and listeners can do is call you, your U.S. senators, to support, Senate Bill 817 is the Falun Gong Protection Act. Specifically talk about forced organ harvesting where people are being killed on demand for their organs. And that will be a strong message to China. And it has unanimously passed in house. And then just waiting for Senates to pass. And so please call your the senators, on that Senate builds a 17, initiated by Senator Ted Cruz.
Alex McFarland Wow. do you know, is there a website about that bill that you're aware of?
Janice Trey So, by search on The Senate bill, 187s will pop up the information. And another website that you can read more about is called Dafoh Dr. Against forced organ Harvesting. That have tons, tons of information. And for almost 20 years, the forced organ harvesting has been ongoing. People are being killed on demand. And when a regime will kill people on demand for the organs, they don't respect lives. So imagine match. They may not put the right match tissue match. They will match the blood type, may not match the tissue type because they want to make money. So it's high risk for even patients to go to China to get the organ, transplants. Many of those die, you know, soon afterwards. And so, it is a, important, I mean life is most precious and, and nobody should be killed.
Alex McFarland of course what, concerns you more? The rise of communism or the rise of Sharia law here in America?
Janice Trey Oh, yes, it's I, I don't take for granted the American freedoms, the constitutions and also how America is founded. You know, they came from the Mayflower because they pursue religious freedoms. And if we let back actors to infiltrate and stop us, you know, from. And I was actually was very surprised that you know, in schools, you know, many schools were not Allowed to, you know, publicly pray or you know, having the ten Commandments, you know, now have some changes in some states. But you know, this is a country that was founded on religious freedoms.
Alex McFarland Yes.
Janice Trey You know, all presidents, when they took the oath, you know, they press, they have their hands on the Bibles and you know, in the money built in God we trust. But are we living that? Are we trying to, you know, help other people, people around the world, whether it's Chinese, you know, whether it's like the persecuted Christians, you know, in, in Nigeria or in China or those who want to have faith, you know, like the Falun practitioner in China or the Christians in North Korea and or in Cuba everywhere. And so it's our responsibility, I would say, it's our job job, to honor God and to enable other people who are being persecuted to have the chance. Like as simple as take down the digital firewalls. So that information, freefall information rather than in the total terror regimes like the Communist Party is not only misinformation, it's disinformation, it's manipulation. It's totally distorted, pictures and we. If we don't take actions, it's just like a cancer cells, it will only multiply and it will suffocate. And just like the COVID it could have contained inside China, but it was purposely let patients travel outside China and spread to the world. So we have to understand that's really important in Communist party's minds. freedom, democracy do not coexist. That's why you remember in Hong Kong, like the Umbrella movement or the white paper movements, they were being crushed. Why? Because the existence of Taiwan ah democratic society and Hong Kong used to be a British colony with the freedoms that is a stark contrast with the company Communist ideology and brainwashing propaganda about freedoms and freedom is very precious. And we should all ah, do take our. Takes our responsibility for our children and our grandchildren and for everybody.
Trey: I think COVID was a dress rehearsal for global totalitarian control
Alex McFarland Ms. Trey, I've got to ask you, has a thorough, comprehensive.
Alex McFarland Analysis of COVID been done? I mean everything that was the. Because frankly I think it was really a dress rehearsal for global totalitarian control.
Janice Trey Really it was very sad. Epoch Times was the one of the only media that put up the documentaries in the very early stage of COVID to show the origin of COVID Wuhan Lab. And also because Epoch Times continue reporting. In fact, Epoch Times reported about a pandemic in China in December 2019, a few months before the rest of the World knew. We have received tons of, tons of thank you and appreciation letter from our readers who read Epoch Times on vpn. And while they travel to China, they changed the return flights and were able to leave China before the lockdown when their relatives and colleagues who were on the schedule, same return flights who didn't make the change on the flights they die of COVID in China. So timely information, safe lights. I think it's still actually during COVID Times we have reporters on the ground in China. We don't just take the government statistics. We actually went to cemeteries, we went to funeral homes, we went to hospitals, we interviewed nurses, doctors when they got home. And so for security reasons we have tons and tons of information. But NewSong York Times and Net were suppressed by the big tech. And so they put labels, you know, say that we were doing misinformation, disinformation when we were simply telling the truth. So what you talk about a dress rehearsal. I don't think most people are prepared for another pandemic. And I think we need to be prepared because our electric grid is very vulnerable boats for attack, you know, with drones. Most of the drones, you know, the largest market share of drones are produced by China. And with drones you can easily carry poisons and drop it to reservoir, drop it over farmlands, you know, to poisons, you know, the food supplies. We live in a very vulnerable time and that's why ending communism, ending information blockage. And that's where we have true transparencies. And that's when our lives have ah better protections with rule of law rather than total Turing regimes. That is not only ruling China, but using multiple methods, transnational repressions to force other countries and to infiltrates and basically using monetary tactics to infant many media out there. So I would ask the viewers and the listeners to really think twice of what you may hear. because the truth like what Epoch Times and EDTV had been reporting and oftentimes being suppressed. So subscribe so that you won't miss critical information. In fact we report the SARS pressure disease 3 weeks before Beijing emitted the pandemic and Wall Street Journal knowledge. And so timely information could save lives.
Alex McFarland Ms. Trey, thank you so much and I appreciate that. And folks, I'm reminded of a quote by Benjamin Franklin. Benjamin Franklin said, everybody loves the fruits of freedom, but few are willing to tend the tree that bears the fruits. Remember, preserving America, it's all of our privilege and duty. Pray for God and country. Thanks for listening. Blessings today and in the new year. Be bold. Stand for truth. The views and opinions expressed in this.
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