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Alex McFarland: Hamilton Corner focuses on devastating flooding in Texas
>> Abraham Hamilton III: And now, the, Hamilton Corner.
>> Alex McFarland: Welcome to a very special edition of the hamilton corner. Alex McFarland here, so honored that you're listening and we've got a great show. You know, I'm still kind of celebrating July 4th in my heart, and, in that spirit, we're going to talk with a very dear friend of ours, historian, prolific author Bill Federer. But I do welcome you to the program. And, you know, as we begin, the program today, I'm sure, like myself, your hearts are heavy over the tragedy of the flood in Texas as the Guadalupe river just spread. And really the world is watching coverage about Camp Mystic. And you know, I'm told that, all over Texas, not. Well, they're in Central Texas, not just the camp, but the body count may be as high as 150, fatalities due to that flood. And so yesterday on Exploring the Word, we had a listener on, from San Angelo, Texas, where there was flooding in the downtown of San Angelo. And, it was said that even a house was floating through the downtown of San Angelo. But we had a listener give us some testimony kind of, from, Boots on the Ground near Camp mystic. And of course there are others that have died. Samaritan's Purse is on the ground there. Franklin Graham and Samaritan's Purse and other great relief organizations are on their way. So I want to encourage you from the get go to please be in prayer for Texas, and the tragedy there, the loss of life. But, even in the midst of suffering, there's a lot to be thankful for. Over the weekend, I had the privilege of giving a brand new message call, that I titled, 7 Reasons Christians should be Grateful for the United States of America. I want to get into some of those reasons, but just to, talk with us about news of the day and probably some history as well, our longtime friend and colleague, very valued thinker, and biblical worldview voice, William J. Bill Federer. Welcome to the program, Bill.
>> Alex McFarland: Hey, Alex. Great to be with you.
>> Alex McFarland: Oh, it's great to be with you. And, good, we've got the audio set up right.
Bill Sutter put together America's God and Country Encyclopedia Quotations
Hey, before I pick your brain on a number of subjects, Bill. I want you to give your website the American Minute and how people can follow the great research that you do.
>> Alex McFarland: Sure. It's American Minute.com. american Minute.comm and I have emails, daily emails on history and I archive them there. And then I have a entire collection of American quotations. So it's my big fat book, it's my bestseller. It's called America's God and Country Encyclopedia Quotations. And we put, put them searchable online at the website americanminute.com and that's a great book.
>> Alex McFarland: I love that book. And we use it regularly. My wife and I will read that book for pleasure reading because, and I've had that book for 20 years. You know, I've gotta ask you, when you put together the big encyclopedia and there are a number of other great books you've written, but how much proofreading did you guys have to do for all those footnotes? I mean there are hundreds of endnotes and footnotes and great quotations. was the proofreading almost as lengthy as the research itself?
>> Alex McFarland: Yeah, well, it was a four year project and it was before the days of Internet and before the days of Windows. I literally used a 486 computer or actually started with a 386 and typed in every single letter and researched it and would reread it. And so I sort of digested it while I was putting it all together. but it hit a nerve. It sold over half a million copies. Focus on the family where you used to work. sold hundreds of thousands of copies. one time I was visiting with Dr. Dobson and some of the staff and they said it was their number one selling book other than Dr. Dobson's own books. And as a result of that, we had congressmen have it, we have the Supreme Court cited by name, in some of their decisions. We've had city council members being told they couldn't open with prayer. And they would say, well, can I read a quote from a founder? And they go, sure. And they would read a quote of the founder saying a prayer.
>> Alex McFarland: Yeah.
>> Alex McFarland: And but that was the, the first of what's turned out to be 30 books. And we just finished a new book called Courageous Christianity where we go through the history of the ymca. And it started out of a muscular Christianity movement In the early 1800s, Charles Finney and George Williams and brought back the Olympics. It's fascinating. But the research, what I found is going back to primary source documents and just reading through them. And nowadays, the Internet's great because you can do, really fast. But the problem is there's too much information. And so the idea is to comb through it, which, what I've done is, you know, read through all the colonial charters, all the state constitutions, all the messages and papers of the presidents, up to Obama. I admit I didn't read through all of Obama's addresses really, but, but I did start reading through Trump's right. So I would compile these in, in a, database. And the idea is that, one of the fav. Famous quotes I like is from Arthur Schlesinger Jr. And his. The quote is history is to the nation what memory is to the individual. So have you ever met an individual who's lost their memory? Maybe they have Alzheimer's. It's sort of sad. They forgot who they are. you can take anything away from them. We sort of have national Alzheimer's here. We are the freest country that planet Earth has ever seen and we forgot who we are, forgot how we got here, and we're letting our freedoms being taken away. And so when you share these stories, it's like, ah, that's what makes America great. We get to be the king of our lives and then all of us together are king of the country, right? So the word citizen is Greek. It means co king. and so Europe have kings and they have subjects. And subjects, subjects are subjected to the will of the king. Republics have citizens. And so we pledge allegiance to the flag and to the republic. We're basically pledging allegiance to us being in charge of ourselves. And anyway, so, you know.
It is estimated that 47% of information on the Internet is false
>> Alex McFarland: What, I got to throw something out there. And this is why, folks, I encourage you to buy books. And by that I mean like book books. And I know we all read so much online, but Bill, I was doing some work for, I was doing some fact checking for a book that I've got coming out this fall on Bible prophecy in the end times. And you know, you probably know this because you're such an information, guru, but, a number of universities like Georgetown, Quinnipiac University, the Economist, the center for Integrative Oncology, which is not about medicine, but about information. It is estimated that 47% of the facts on the Internet are false. And folks, let that sink in for a minute. And right now, on the Internet, and of course the servers and routers and databases all the world over the majority of activity taking place on servers right now is bot, bot, bot activity and AI digital content creation. Now, and regarding social Media, an estimated 86% of quote, information posted on social media is partially, are wholly factually inaccurate. Now, when people post things on social media, I could understand maybe people being inaccurate. But Bill, this is why your books are so important. With hundreds of hours of fact checking and folks, let me just say, and I'm as guilty as anybody. I live on screens. Bill, one last thing, and I'm going to throw it to you, but they estimate that teenagers, today spend 6.7 hours a day looking at a small screen, a, mobile device. But what do you think about Georgetown and these groups saying that 47% of information on the Internet is false? The more I research, the more I'm tending to actually believe that, hence the importance of, of books and traditional resource. Would you, research. Would you agree?
>> Alex McFarland: Yeah. So they call them large language models. And when you do a Google search, it goes out onto the Internet and it gathers up all the information on that subject and then compiles it in an instant into an answer. But the programmers can flag websites and say, do not go to this website to gather your information because it is untrustworthy. And so they have labeled all the conservative websites and all the conservative news sites as untrustworthy. So when you Google to get an answer, it goes out there, it compiles everything, but it leaves out all the conservative websites. And so it gives you an answer that is factually incorrect. I was reading one about, Abraham Lincoln. And they said, well, Lincoln didn't believe in God. I'm like, hello, the Lincoln memorial in Washington D.C. is filled full of scriptures. Filled full of. Sure, I've written books on Lincoln. over and over again. he talks about this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom. And so I've witnessed that. You know, it is interesting. I have a book on socialism where I go through tactics during the Cold War. So, after World War II, you had countries in Europe and India and Egypt wanting to be free, and they would, create republics and elect leaders. But the Soviets didn't like that. So they would send in people to do critical theory. What's that? That's where you observe all the groups in a country. Economic groups, racial groups, religious groups, Sunni, Shia, Orthodox ethnic groups, Bosnians, Croats, Serbs. And then they would categorize them as victims or oppressors, haves and have nots. And then they would organize protests and riots and Violence and bloodshed. Why bloodshed? Because then people think emotionally and not logically. My friend just got killed. I don't want to sit down and talk theory, but then this emotion, people want to blame somebody for the killing. And so they would co opt the media and blame the leader of the country for all the problems. And as people began to believe the lies about the leader, his popularity would fall and then they would do a coup or rigged election and replace the leader with a Soviet puppet. Country after country was falling. It was called behind the Iron Curtain. Truman does nothing. The next president's Eisenhower. And when Iran nationalizes the oil and, and begins to side with the Soviet Union, Eisenhower does the KGB thing in reverse. Has Alan Dulles, head of the CIA Operation Ajax, sent in Kermit Roosevelt Jr. The grandson of Teddy Roosevelt. And he organizes gangsters and mobsters and radical imams and he breaks the country into groups and he co ops the media to blame the leader of the country, Mazadec for all the problems. When people believe that his popularity falls, they do a coup, put him under house arrest and replace him with the Shah who had been in power before. and so here these tactics have been perfected for 50 years during the Cold War. And it became evident with the church hearings and the Operation Mockingbird was made public that the CIA had 400 assets in the media feeding talking points to the press that was packaging, packaging it and selling it to the public. And so it was canceled until President Obama in 2012 does the defense Authorization act where he brings back the Mockingbird project where the government can now put people in all the social media and in the, and, and create talking points. And then Obama did 2015, the executive order using behavioral sciences for the benefit of the American people. What's behavioral sciences? It's psyops. And then in 2016 Obama signed the Countering Foreign Intelligence Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation act, which gave him the authority to decide what's disinformation and cancel.
>> Alex McFarland: Exactly. Yeah, I was just going to say that. I mean it sounds good to suppress disinformation but when someone you know, defines a viewpoint that they don't like as disinformation, it results in censorship. Doesn't, does.
>> Alex McFarland: And now the, the founding principle that all this is based on, ah, it's that human beings are group creatures. We want to be accepted, we don't want to be rejected. 1800s marketing was singer sewing machine. And they would say everything about the details early you know, the early 20th century.
>> Alex McFarland: Forgive me. We've got a break coming up, folks. This is the hamilton corner. Alex McFarland sitting in for Abe Hamilton with our very special guest, William J. Bill Federer, historian, prolific author. We're going to continue hearing, some of our great history, plus take your phone calls and questions. So this is a very special day to tune in news and events from a biblical factual perspective that you won't hear anywhere else. Stay tuned.
A big part of the Christian life is listening to God
We're back after this brief break with more on the American Family Radio Network.
>> Alex McFarland: A discipleship minute with Joseph Parker.
>> Joseph Parker: A big part of the Christian life is listening to God. We listen to God by reading and meditating on his word. We listen by his spirit. Because, yes, God speaks to all of his children every day. Sometimes what you think is a passing thought through your mind may be the Holy Spirit speaking to you, giving you guidance, insight or wisdom about a matter. Now, by no means am m I saying that every passing thought in your mind is the Holy Spirit. Not at all. But often what you might think is a passing thought is the Holy Spirit speaking to you. Write down thoughts, ideas or insights that just come to your mind that you think maybe that's God speaking to you. The more you're looking for God to speak to you, the more he will speak to you. Being deliberate about listening for the voice of God is very important. And remember, you can always hear the voice of God through His word. Spend more time reading the word of God and the voice of the Holy Spirit in your life will get louder and louder and louder.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: Shining light into the darkness.
Bill Federer says patriotism does not necessarily contradict commitment to Jesus Christ
This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
>> Alex McFarland: Welcome back to the program. Alex McFarland here. So honored to be sitting in for Abe Hamilton. Very honored. It's always a thrill to be talking with Bill Federer, because I love our country. And you know, over the weekend I had the privilege of speaking at Charis, Bible College and I spoke at the summer Family Bible Conference. Then I was in, pulpit in North Carolina on Sunday and m, I was preaching about seven reasons that Christians should love America and that patriotism, ah, I mean, heartfelt, sincere patriotism does not necessarily contradict our commitment to Jesus Christ. And, with Bill Federer on, I want to pick his brain about a couple of things. But Bill, first of all, thanks for making time to be with us. the founders, many, many of whom were Christians, they didn't see any conflict, between, love of country and love of the Lord and fidelity to America, just vocal commitment to America. They didn't believe that that necessarily compromised our commitment to Christ the Savior. Did they?
>> Alex McFarland: No. I actually put together a book, Silence Equals Consent, where I go through the 1600s where you literally had churches founding cities. So Providence, Rhode island was founded by the first Baptist church in America. Everybody's involved in church and everybody's involved in city government because it's the church founding the city. Hartford, Connecticut was founded by the First Congregationalist church in America. Everybody's involved in church, Everybody's involved in city government because it's the church founding the city. Matter of fact, this happened all throughout New England. Literally. Churches were founding cities, founding colonies, and they had a covenant form of government, where you get rights from God, you're fair to your neighbor because you're accountable to God. And they got this idea from the Bible. What part of the Bible? That first 400 years out of Egypt before they got a king. So the most common form of government in world history is kings. Nimrod, Pharaoh, Caesar, Kaiser, Sultan, Tsar. And as the centuries go on, the kingdoms get bigger because with the latest military advancement, the kings can kill more people. And finally, so you got Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan and the Vikings and kings, of Spain, France and Austria, until finally the King of England. He was a globalist. The sun never set on the British Empire. And wherever you have a king, the king is a glorified gang leader. It's a hierarchical system. If you are friends with the king, you are more equal. If you are not friends with the king, you are less equal. If you're an enemy of the king, you're dead. It's called treason or you're a slave. It's a pyramid structure to society. And when America's founders broke away, they flipped it and made the people the king. So the word citizen is Greek. It means co king.
>> Alex McFarland: And so basically, I did not know that. So say that again folks. You've got to hear that the word citizen is a, Greek word that means co king. Is that what you said?
>> Alex McFarland: Right. So kings have subjects who are subjected to their will. I'm a subject of the king of England. Right. And republics have citizens. And the word citizen is Greek. It means co ruler, co sovereign, co king. And so in America, you get to be a king with a little K over your life. And all of us together are king with a little K over the country. And then we have the voluntary opportunity of submitting our lives to Jesus, the King of kings. It's voluntary. It's a bottom up form of government. Versus a top down. Jesus told his disciples the kings of the gentiles rule over them. But it shall not be so among you. He that's greatest among you, let him be as he that serveth. I am among you as he that serveth. So we're talking kingdoms and he's saying the world's kingdoms are topped down through fear. My kingdom is bottom up through love. But we're talking kingdoms and it actually goes back to the pre King Saul, post king Saul. So the New England pastors looked to this 400 year period from around 1400 BC to a thousand BC where you have millions of Israelites coming out of Egypt and for four centuries there's no king. It's a total anomaly in world history. I mean at this time you have Egyptian pharaohs, King Agabaishan, you got, you know, India has maharajas and China has emperors. The world is kings and here Israel, millions of people, no king. And it worked because everybody's taught the law and they're accountable to God to follow it. And it worked for four centuries until the the priests went woke and stopped teaching the law. And every man did what was right in their own eyes. And you got the high priest Eli, his own sons are sleeping with women in the tent of and another Levite with a concubine that gets raped to death by a bunch of sodomites. And m they all go to Samuel the prophet and they say this self government system is no longer working. We want to be like the other countries, we want a king. Samuel cries and the Lord tells him they did not reject you, they rejected me. Now why is this story important? Well the kings of England looked to the Bible for their authority, but they looked to the king Saul and on part of the Bible and the Puritans and pilgrims and Baptists and Presbyterians that founded New England looked to the pre King Saul part of the Bible. This Hebrew Republic, 400 years, millions of people, everybody taught the law, no king. and so the kings want theocracies. You do what I tell you to believe or I'm going to burn you at the stake. But in a republic you have freedom of conscience. And it's this idea that your relationship with God is a love relationship and love is voluntary. And so we're not going to have a coercion or punishment from the government. And so freedom of conscience is what Christians introduced into America which was contrary to every dictatorship, every king, every socialist, communist country right in the world. They want to control your will, your thoughts. There's no freedom.
How did America morph from Judeo Christian moral foundation to lawlessness today
>> Alex McFarland: Let me Ask you this. How did the, granted America was based on, a moral code and that we would police ourselves by God's law written on the heart? I mean, there's the overt scriptures of the Bible and Genesis. I'm sorry, Exodus 21:17 has the Ten Commandments. But I guess, how did we get from a culture of moral boundaries where we hold ourselves in check to this militant autonomy that, the Democrat Party and those on the left, if you try to uphold the rule of law, they call it fascism. And making people accountable and securing the border and deporting felons and illegals, that's fascism. How did we morph from a Judeo Christian moral foundation to really the lawlessness that we so often see around us right now?
>> Alex McFarland: Yeah, good question. Well, first of all, what they're doing is projection. So they're blaming us for what they're doing. It's a socialist tactic. But going back, the New England Puritans had a covenant form of government. And where you get rights from God. You're fair to your neighbor because you're accountable to God. And they began to teach it academically. God has a plan for your life. Your marriage, family, church, your government. Find out what the plan is, put into place. And it got a little dry. Matter of fact, it got very dry. And so much so that the Puritans were nicknamed Old Lights. And some, took it the next step and said, God, in his infinite wisdom, already knows who's going to wind up in heaven, so don't even bother preaching the gospel. Whoever's supposed to get saved will get saved. Que sera, sera. And it became unevangelistic. And so these Old Lights became spiritually dry. And David Brainard got expelled from Yale because he said his professor was as spiritual as a chair. But, oh, my goodness, in the 1700s, you had the new lights, and the new Lights said, no, it's more than a plan, a covenant plan. Even if it's a good plan, you have to have an experience with Jesus. And when you do, your life will change and you won't do worldly things you used to do, like bars and brothels and government. Wait, what was that last thing? Yeah, government. It's worldly. If you're really a Christian, you're going to withdraw from worldly things, including government. Well, gee, that's different than the 1600s, where everybody's involved in church and everybody's involved in city government because it's the church founding the city. Right? The word polis means city. Politics means the Business of the city. Policy is what the citizens agree upon.
>> Joseph Parker: Ah.
>> Alex McFarland: Polytechnic is how the citizens treat each other. And if they don't do it very well, they have police. Right. but pole means city. and so in the 1600s, churches are founding cities, but in the 1700s they're like, no, no, no, we're not going to do that anymore. If you're really spiritual, you will withdraw from government.
>> Alex McFarland: Hm.
>> Alex McFarland: Well, if all the spiritual people withdraw from government, who's left to be involved but the less spiritual?
>> Alex McFarland: And Bill, isn't this almost, Francis Schaeffer, the great Christian thinker in the late 70s? I think he died around 1986. But didn't he, in his great evangelical disaster? And folks, listen to this. like in the aftermath of the scopes trial in 1925, many well meaning, but I think misguided Christians said, oh, we've got to pull away from the world. Let's pull away from academia, pull away from entertainment, pull away from media. this thing of God's salt and light church, withdrawing from government, from culture, from the public square. is that what, like Schaeffer warned about in what he called the great evangelical disaster?
>> Alex McFarland: Yeah, yeah. So the Puritans, it was a plan, but to some it was only a plan. And it got dry. And so the revivalists, they're called pietists, they said it's a personal experience, but to some, it was so personal, it was only personal. And they just cared about their own personal relationship with the Lord and they could care less about what kind of country they're leaving their kids. And so a little background. Germany, 1517, Martin Luther starts the Reformation because he had a personal experience with Jesus. The just shall live by faith. It was so personal to Martin Luther. He was willing to stand up to the most powerful political leader in the world, the King of Spain. Tell him to his face, unless you can prove me wrong from the Scriptures, here I stand, so help me God. Very personal to Martin Luther. But some German princes have been waiting for a chance to break from Rome. And they go, this is it. Kingdom of mind. I just made the decision. You are all now Lutherans. And the people in the kingdom, were like, okay, great, we're Lutheran. What do we believe? So for the people in the kingdom, it's not necessarily the same personal experience Martin Luther had is just a new doctrine. And it became dry. And so the revival M movement starts, called pietism. That said, being a Christian is more than doctrine, even if it's good doctrine. You have to have an experience with Jesus. When you do, your life will change. You won't do worldly things, including government. And so these Lutheran pietists, the best known group are called Moravians in Germany and they, go around the world and believe it or not, this teaching helps them to get into countries. They could go to a kingdom in India or Egypt and say, look, we're not going to influence politics. We just want to, you know, have people, you know, hear the good news and the king and say, okay, you're not a threat, come on in. But they didn't realize in America we're not a monarchy, we're a republic. Hey Bill, did you. Don't get involved in king.
>> Alex McFarland: quite a history of m. Moravians in my home state of North Carolina. and you may know that maybe sometime when you're up here, I'll take you. There's Old Salem, but there's a settlement called Bethabra that's very well, restored. And the Moravian Christians were quite influential here in the Mid Atlantic region.
>> Alex McFarland: Yeah, yeah, and Moravian Falls. I've been there.
John Wesley emphasized a personal experience with Jesus, but to some it was only personal
And they emphasized a personal experience with Jesus. And who did they influence, George? John Wesley. So there's a boat going to Georgia and it's almost sinking. The Wesleys are screaming and the Lutheran pietist Moravians are just singing praise songs. And John Wesley is like, you have a personal experience with Jesus that I don't have. he fails in Georgia, goes back to England. Another Moravian, Paul Bowler, invites him to another prayer meeting. And John, Wesley says about a quarter before nine, as he was explaining the change which God works in the hearts of those who believe in Christ, I felt my heart strangely warmed. I felt I did trust in Christ, Christ alone for salvation. And he gave me an assurance that he had taken away my sins, even mine, and saved me from lost sin and death. And so John Wesley said he felt his heart strangely warm. And so he goes over and lives with the Moravians in Germany for eight months. Calls it the religion of the heart. He comes back to England, starts a revival movement inside of the Anglican Church called Methodism, saying, look, it's more than Anglican doctrine, even if it's good doctrine. You have to have an experience with Jesus. He gets his friend George Whitfield involved, who comes and preaches up and down the colony seven times. It's great. He's emphasizing a personal experience with Jesus, but to some it was so personal, it was only personal. And they would withdraw from government. And you had the two brothers who were Lutheran pietist pastors Henry Muhlenberg, and, John, Peter Muhlenberg. And the revolution starts. John Peter, here's Patrick Henry's give me liberty, give me death speech. Goes to Washington, who makes him a colonel. Goes to his church, preaches a sermon out of Ecclesiastes. A time to gather stones, a time to scatter stones, a time to preach, time to fight. gets 300 of his men together, and they fight in all these battles. He gets promoted to general after the war. John Peter Muhlenberg's elected to Congress. Well, during this time, he's writing to his brother Frederick. I called him Henry. Henry was the dad, so Frederick is the other brother. And Frederick, tells, John Peter, you're getting involved in things, which as a preacher, you have nothing whatsoever to do. And John Peter writes back to Frederick saying, you're a Tory British sympathizer. Frederick writes back and says he could not serve two masters. And then the revel. Then when the British burned Frederick's church down, he gets involved. He gets elected to congress. He gets elected as the speaker of the house. The first speaker of the house is a Lutheran pastor that went from not being involved to being involved. And what did they pass? The first Amendment. So this teaching of old light, new light, one, it's a great covenant plan. But to some, it's only a plan. And then, the pietists say, no, it's a personal experience. But to some, it was so personal. It was only personal. But I have this question. If having a personal experience is so important, don't you want your kids to have a chance to have a personal experience with Jesus? Because if you don't get involved in government, they are wanting to teach your kids in the public schools that God does not exist. Would God want the kids to be taught he didn't exist? And then they teach there's no sin, Right? And that here little drag queen story hour, library books. Try this kind of sex, try that kind of sex. If sex outside of marriage is not a sin, arguably there are no sins. And if there's no sins, you don't need a savior to save you from your sins. They undermine the entire gospel. So you have to admit it's a pretty clever trick the devil's pulled to get Christians who believe the gospel of Christ sit back and let their children be taught the gospel of antichrist.
>> Caroline: Right?
>> Alex McFarland: Well, I'm spiritual.
>> Alex McFarland: I don't want to get involved in government. I'm going to let the ungodly people teach my kids that there's no God. There's no male, female, there's no sin. it's like, oh, you're really spiritual. And yet Jesus said, if you allow one of these little ones who believes in me to stumble, better than a millstone we put around your neck, and you'd be thrown to the depths of the sea.
>> Alex McFarland: Well, it kind of reminds me that famous quote, all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good, good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke, Stay tuned. we're going to take questions. Here's the number, folks, if you have a question for Bill Federer, 888589 8840. That's 888589 8840. Alex McFarland here on the American Family Radio Network with our guest, William Federer. Don't go away. A brief break and then we're back.
Hamilton Corner podcast features America's Providential history with Stephen McDowell
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>> Alex McFarland: Providence means God's superintending care over his creation. America's Providential history with Stephen McDowell. God is at work performing his will in history. And so through this podcast, we're going to be taking a look at the providence of God in the history and in particular, in the history of America. America's Providential History available now on the podcast page at afr.net.
>> Abraham Hamilton III: The Hamilton Quarter podcast and one minute commentaries are available at afr.net Back to the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.
Alex McFarland: American Minute has seven summer biblical worldview youth camps
>> Alex McFarland: Welcome back to the program. Alex McFarland here. And, you know, in addition to our seven summer biblical worldview youth camps, we have about 1200 students in camp this summer. And God is blessing. We're having kids get saved. We're teaching them to defend their faith. But also we've got a speaker series going on In Myrtle Beach, S.C. myrtle beach has a real music, industry, and we've rented a couple of great theaters. We had Dinesh D'. Souza. But listen to this, folks. August 21st. I know that's a little bit of a ways off, but I've got Charlie Kirk coming now. We'll be at the Alabama Theater. We have, well over 2,000 seats. And my own website, which is alexmcfarland.com conversations, the series for adults. This biblical worldview series. We call it Conversations that Matter. And so Charlie Kirk is coming in, by the way. Myrtle beach, great resort. Like 20 million people a year from 50 states go there. And that's why we decided to do this speaker series to really maximize on all the people that go to the beach down there. And so I would love to see you. you can Google the Alabama Theater. That's where we're going to be. and it's just going to be fantastic. Charlie Kirk is an amazing speaker and I would love for you to join us. Or you can get complete information, plus my travel schedule. Lexmcfarland.com and we're going to take some calls in a moment. And the number if you want to call in, if you have a question for Bill Federer, just really an American treasure, this guy. What a historian. The number is 888-589-8840. But before we go to the phones, Bill, give your website and listen. I've heard you speak so many times, I've booked you a few times. You really are amazing. how can people learn about your, your travel and maybe they want to bring you to their city. But give your website and such, Bill.
>> Alex McFarland: Sure, sure. It's American Minute.com, american Minute.com and all the contact there, phone, email you can get to me and I'm happy to speak for you. I've, do that almost every week in one or two places. And But yeah, americanminute.com.
>> Alex McFarland: Yeah, well, it's great. And your books, where can people look, at the various titles and order.
>> Alex McFarland: Yeah, well, Amazon.com has them and all the different, online bookstores. Or you can just go to my website, americanminute.com and we have descriptions of the books, we have videos, we have flash drives with my video presentations on them. You can stick them in the USB on your computer or smart tv. we have, links to articles and videos, interviews that I've done. But, yeah, American Minute.com wonderful. And a couple of the books that we've been pushing over the Fourth of July are called, Miracles in American History. And so these are stories from our country's past. Where there's a crisis, they pray and have courage, things turn around, have, revivals. First Great Awakening, second Great Awakening. we have, the missionaries, to India, missionaries to Burma, missionaries to Hawaii, missionaries to the Indians, lots of very Inspiring stories of faith.
>> Alex McFarland: I want to go to Tyrone in Oklahoma. Tyrone, thanks for holding, and welcome to our conversation with Bill Federer. And I'm hitting the button and it's not turning red. Could somebody pot up Tyrone, please? Hello, yes, welcome. Thank you for holding.
The Johnson amendment in 1954 essentially intimidated ministers and churches into silence
>> Caroline: All right, well, my question was that when Lyndon Johnson had the 501, K deal and his, threat to, stop tax exemption, what about the sanctuary cities who refuse to cooperate with ICE and hold criminals and still demand that they keep funding, and they seem to thumb their nose at any threat of their finally being taken away when they're going against, you know, what they're doing completely wrong. And then I'll just hang up and let you. And let him answer that. And I appreciate your, ability. You know, let me speak. goodbye, Tyrone.
>> Alex McFarland: Hey, you make a great point. I'm gonna throw it to Bill in just a moment. Folks, you gotta understand, I mean, this is so significant. The Johnson amendment in 1954, amounted to intimidating ministers and churches into silence. now we just heard in the news today that the IRS has lifted the sanctions. Although I don't think that we Christians should be cowered into silence just because of threats of the irs. But Bill, what a, dichotomy that the very same left that would say, oh, Christians can't endorse political candidates because it violates IRS law, but those very same leftists and Cities would violate U.S. law by harboring illegals and felons. the caller really, I think, raises a great point.
>> Alex McFarland: Yeah, several different angles on that. First, this, prior to, the Johnson Amendment, churches talked about everything. They talked about abolition of slavery. They talked about taking care of immigrants. They talked about, prohibition. Right. They talked about women suffered. They talked about these issues. even in 1962, W. A. Criswell, pastor of the First Baptist Church in Dallas, had a Sunday broadcast sermon on why he thought that John F. Kennedy, a Catholic, should not be president because he would take orders from the Pope. And of course, Kennedy just goes to Texas and tells the Houston Baptist association that he's not going to let the Pope tell him how to run America and they'll vote for him. But pastors talked about politics. They talked about these issues until Johnson was, running for Senate in Texas and a conservative group said that his policies, because he embraced FDR's new deal and then later, you know, his Great Society welfare state, they were leaning towards socialism and communism and LBJ didn't want to be Called the Communists. And so he introduced this bill that would limit, 501C3s, and churches just happened to be 501C3s from endorsing candidates. And so that was an IRS code change. And it was, challenged by Michael, Ferris and then the adf, and then, Matt Staver, Liberty Council, where pastors would speak on politics, record it, send it to the irs, and say, come and get me. Because they wanted a loss because they knew the IRS wouldn't win.
>> Alex McFarland: Well, that pulpit Freedom Sunday.
>> Alex McFarland: Yeah. And so it was just an intimidation. And most pastors are busy keeping track of a flock and not keeping up with IRS laws. And so they would say, I'm just going to avoid the whole topic altogether. but this, today, this IRS ruling makes, it clear that pastors are not limited, that the government cannot tell them what they can and cannot say. they're citizens. But also the church is protected. The First Amendment, protects the freedom of speech. So that's one thing that I wanted to talk about. The other is, is lbj. And so, Lincoln, Republican freed the slaves. Democrats in the Deep south passed Jim Crow laws and started the kkk. And they had lynchings. And these were horrible. And Teddy Roosevelt, a Republican, condemned the lynchings. You, had the invention of television, and you had pictures of blacks being hosed on the streets of Birmingham by Bull Connor, the Democrat County Commissioner, and dogs, being sicked on them. And so LBJ says this isn't going to bode well for the Democrat Party because all the rest of the country are going to see how Democrats treat blacks. And so he goes in, to meet with governors. And according to, the, the book, that was written, Kessler, wrote it. he said that LBJ told these governors if, if they would back his plan to switch from intimidation to entitlement, he would have, and he used the N word, voting Democrat the next 200 years.
>> Alex McFarland: Yeah.
>> Alex McFarland: And so LBJ' society, welfare state was the switch from intimidation to entitlement. In other words, to destabilize inner city communities. So people would sign up for welfare, and once they started getting used to getting checks, they would have a tendency to want to keep it coming, and they would tend to vote for the candidates that would promise to keep it coming. And then LBJ in 1965 changed the immigration policies. Most immigrants up to this point came from countries where they had what's called a Protestant work ethic. It was considered a social stigma. To sign up for welfare that you're admitting failure. And yet they found out that immigrants from really, really poor third world countries didn't have that stigma and they would be happy to sign up. And once they got used to the free money, they would tend to vote for the candidates that promised to continue it. So it was a way to build a Democrat voter base. And so that was this policy to let as many, immigrants in so that you could sign them up for welfare. And we even have Democrats calling, saying, look, let's give them all amnesty so they can all vote. and so serving. Yeah, it was a policy. And then, you know, I ran for Congress three times. I have an inside look at how this works. people would spend a, ah, decade trying to redraw a congressional district map, Cut out this street, cut in that street. And then they found an easy, easier way to do it. Just let crime go up in the big cities and people will move out.
>> Alex McFarland: Forgive me. I want to get to Patty in Iowa. I know we've got a couple more.
>> Alex McFarland: Oh, yeah, sorry.
>> Alex McFarland: Patty, are you there? Patty? Patty in Iowa. Let's go to Chris in Virginia. Chris, are you there?
>> Caroline: Yes, sir.
>> Alex McFarland: welcome. Thank you for holding.
Alec: I'm impressed with Bill Federer's grasp of church history
>> Caroline: Thank you. first time hearing Mr. Federer, I'm impressed with his grasp of history and the church. And I'm curious, Mr. Federer, have you published videos, books? you can give me some, references to. Thank you.
>> Alex McFarland: Sure. Yeah. Well, thank you for that question. I love that question. My website's americanminute.com and I published, 30 books and over the last 30 years and I have links to hundreds of videos. There's a. I, I did 700 programs called Faith in History for the TCT Network and TCT TV. but yeah, thanks for asking.
>> Alex McFarland: Hey, I gotta throw something in and. Bill, hold that thought. Ale, I'm in North Carolina. Okay. When I was a youth pastor, Friendly Avenue Baptist Church. This was in the 90s and up through the early 2000s. Then I went to work for James Dobson. But I would give all of my graduating seniors Bill Federer's book on America's, Encyclopedia of God and Country quotations. Because I knew they'd be going to Chapel Hill and Duke and NC State and Clemson and Wake Forest, and I knew they were going to get, at least they would attempt to program them into woke little compliant socialists. So Bill, I would get. Every May, when my seniors were graduating, my youth group, I would go down to Family Christian Bookstore and I would buy like anywhere from 15 to 30 copies of your encyclopedia book. And I remember, you know, two things. One, I thought, william J. Federer, I would really like to meet him someday. And God has graciously allowed us to become friends. But I want to tell you something, Bill, seriously. One day I was going to Raleigh. I had to visit a man that was going to have surgery in the hospital. So I had read many of your quotes, like the fundamental charter of the Carolinas, and I think it was in 18. In your book, it says, like, in 1835, the state charter was amended that to be elected or hold public office in North Carolina, you had to profess the Protestant faith and had to verbally say, old and New Testaments are the word of God. So I went. And of course, I've been to the state capitol many times now. I was a page under Governor Hunt in 78. I'm, old. Anyway, I looked up everything in your book about North Carolina, and I spent, like, an entire day in Raleigh at the archives, and they let me go into some drawers and file cabinets that were way back, and I was like, everything Bill Federer said about the Christian founding of North Carolina is true. And I saw it with my own eyes. I don't think I've ever told you this. This is 30 years ago, but I went, and with my own eyes, I saw the antiquated antiquarian documents where your book talks about the fundamental charter of the Carolinas, and all that stuff is accurate. And I was like, yay for my home state. We were founded by Christians.
>> Alex McFarland: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I actually had dinner with supreme, Court Chief Justice Paul Newby and his wife, Macon, and we talked North Carolina Constitution history. And, it's still in the North Carolina Constitution that, I think it's the first duty of a civilized and Christian state. something there, but it references Christian state, and it's still in the North Carolina Constitution.
>> Alex McFarland: Judge Newby is a great, great friend and an amazing man of God, as are you folks. we're just about out of time, but there's a lot to rejoice over. the IRS ruling that churches can. Yes. Can. Endorse political candidates. Please continue to pray for Texas and continue to be bold and stand strong. Bill Federer, thank you for your time tonight, and thank you for the great work you do.
>> Alex McFarland: Thank you, Alex. And I am in agreement in prayer for all the families in Texas.
>> Alex McFarland: Indeed.
Well, folks, uh, one Last admonition. Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem
Well, folks, one Last admonition. Psalm 122. 6. Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem. What an exciting time. I know it's a challenge, but what an exciting time to be a Christian in this hour. And remember, your labor in the Lord is not in vain. First Corinthians 15:58 Blessings to you.