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Hamilton: God has called us to be his ambassadors even in this dark moment

>> Bishop EW Jackson: Darkness is not an affirmative force. It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: This is the, Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.

>> Bishop EW Jackson: It should be uncomfortable for a believer to live as a hypocrite, delivering people.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Out of the bondage of mainstream media and the philosophies of this world.

>> Bishop EW Jackson: God has called you and me to be his ambassadors, even in this dark moment. Let's not miss our moment.

Bishop E.W. Jackson thanks American Family Association supporters for support

>> Abraham Hamilton III: And now the Hamilton Quarter.

>> Bishop EW Jackson: And this is Bishop E.W. jackson sitting in for Abraham Hamilton III here in the Hamilton Corner. Great to be with you today. Thank you, as always, for all of your prayers, your support, your contributions, all that you do to make AFR possible and to make the entire network, the family of organizations associated with the American Family association appreciate you. God bless you. We couldn't do it without you. So by the grace of God, we will continue. And thank you so much for walking with us through it.

It's going to take God praying and believing even after President Trump is gone

We got to save this country, folks. it's clear, as I've said many times, President Trump is not the savior. I mean, he's doing a tremendous job, in my view. I really mean that, folks. He is doing a tremendous job, but he's not the Savior. It's going to take the people of God praying and believing and working continuously, even after President Trump is no longer in office, in order to help save this country. Because our problem is ultimately not political. It is spiritual. And you solve the spiritual problem of the country. I think the cultural and political problems simply get solved with it. as I've said many times, David Breitbart famously said, politics is downstream from culture. I said E.W. jackson, not so famously, said that culture is downstream from spirituality. In other words, as a nation, spirituality goes, so goes its culture, and as the culture goes, so goes its politics. So the, the root from which it all flows is the spirit of the nation, the spirituality of the nation. Righteousness exalts a nation. Sin is a reproach to any people. When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice. But when the wicked rule, the people mourn. right now, we are in a time of rejoicing because we've got leadership that understands the nature of our country, its Judeo Christian values and foundations. of course, we have a lot of people in the country like this Mayor Fry and, and Governor Walz out there in Minneapolis and Minnesota, who don't understand, don't care to understand the foundations of the nation. They are simply on a different wavelength. They are Marxists, essentially. They are secularists. They are Atheists, practically speaking, I don't know whether they actually believe, in atheism or the notion there is no God, but they certainly behave that way, and they certainly don't honor or respect the Judeo Christian foundations of our country. So for all practical purposes, they are, practical atheists, if you will. And so what we've got to do is just keep praying and believing God, to get through this period that we are in right now, and, hope that this is a time of transitioning into the permanent and predominant embrace of Judeo Christian values and principles, the foundational principles of the country, that that's what we are headed for, that President Trump's presidency and the things that are going on in our culture right now. The awakening that's happening on many college campuses. Turning, Point usa Of course, AFR has been in the forefront of this for a long, long time. you know, the new, kid on the block tends to get a lot of attention. But American Family association and American Family Radio have been here laying a foundation for a long, long time. You know, we've been laying down the ancient landmarks which many are now coming along and picking up, and thank God for them. you know, I'm glad for it. But I tell you, I think without afr, without the American Family association, without brother Don Wildmon, a lot of the stuff that we're seeing now would never have happened because he really began to pioneer this stuff when almost nobody was talking about it or pointing it out. So, praise God for that, though. I got a couple of things I want to share with you. first of all, let me remind you, by the way, I have a podcast on American Family Radio. I hope you listen to it. It posts every Wednesday morning. so it will be posting. My podcast will be posting tomorrow morning. It's called the Awakening, Just like my radio program was called the Awakening. So check it out. And it's there for 24 7. as. As, Sandy says, once it's posted, it's there, and you can check it out anytime. I also want to remind you, to tell you, actually, because I don't think I've had a chance to announce this, but, we have an annual stand Awards dinner. We honor four or five patriots for their service to God and to our country. And, we've given that award TO People like Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin and Jenny Thomas, wife of Clarence Thomas and Ken Blackwell, former mayor, of Cincinnati and former Secretary of state, Secretary of State for Ohio and former ambassador under President Ronald Reagan, and star Parker and Dr. Alveda King, the niece of Dr. King, and a host of other great people we've given it to. And, we've got. Got a wonderful lineup coming up for this one, on May 12th, Tuesday, May 12th, in Tysons Corner, Virginia. So if you're anywhere in the area, or even if you're not, please put it in your schedule, make plans to come. And if you can't come, please pray for us as we plan the biggest. Our biggest event of the year. most important fundraising event of the year, but also, just a big, A big operation. We spend several months planning and putting this together, and that process has already begun. So I wanted to let you, you know about it in advance. No tickets on sale yet or anything like that. when that happens, I'll let you know as I have the opportunity. But it, it will be posted on Stand America dot us, Stand America Us and on all of our other social media. I'll be talking about it. So just wanted to give you a heads up about that.

Christian Bovov: Calling ICE agents Nazis is political malpractice

Now let's talk a little bit further about what's going on in Minneapolis. First of all, I think that President Trump needs to be given a lot of credit for the fact that he's willing to talk to Tim Walls and talk to Jacob Fry, because I don't think these people deserve to be talked to. But. But I'm glad that the President is gracious enough to do that. I tell you, I, I would be struggling with that if I were President, had to talk to them. Because when you call people Nazis and you say that they're good, the Gestapo, basically what you're doing is subtly calling for them to be killed. I mean, am I out of line to say that? Because what do we do with the Nazis? We killed them where we found them, we fought them and killed them. So when you use that kind of incendiary language and you claim that they're out executing people and they're kidnapping people and taking them away to secret locations, this is complete and utter nonsense, and it is, frankly, it is political malpractice in my view. You're being the very demagogue. You, you are claiming that isis, and you look at the people that they are arresting, the people they arresting are guilty of murders and rapes and robberies and fraud and a whole bunch of other things. Child molestation, child, sexual crimes. I mean, these are the worst of the worst. And they're getting them off the streets, in the murder rate of course, we. I'm sure you've heard the murder rate has dropped precipitously. We, We have the lowest murder rate since 1900, folks. Since 1900. 2025 saw the MO M. The steepest drop in the murder rate year over year, of any. In the history of the country. So it's working because a lot of the people who were committing these crimes in our country were people who shouldn't be here in the first place. And now ICE is getting them out, and the murder rate is dropping. Praise God. You would think that'd be a cause of celebration, but. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Not for Walls and Fry. Because for them, the crimes, the, the criminals are the ICE agents, not. Not the. Not the guys preying on children, killing people, raping women. No, not them. No, no, not the. Not the. The human traffickers and the drug dealers and the gangbangers. No, no, they're not the problem. The problem is ICE agents, and you got to get rid of them. I mean, did you hear Gavin Newsom, I think, who said that, they're going to. Was it Gavin Newsom. I think it was Gavin Newsom who said they're going to deny driver's licenses to anybody they find. Oh, no, no, no, no. That was Eric Swalwell. That was, Eric, Betray your country with the. With the Chinese maven Swalwell, who said that he. If he becomes governor of California, he would deny any person who's ever worked for ICE the right to work. Any. The right. The right to work for California government, and he would deny them driver's licenses in California. Ah, these people are just. And here again, they. They want to claim Donald Trump is some kind of dictator or some kind of tyrant. I mean, that's tyrannical behavior. These people are working, doing legitimate jobs and carrying out legitimate duties for the federal government as. As ICE agents, Immigrations, Customs and Enforcement agents. And you're going to deny them a license in your state because of who they work for? Are you kidding me? Now, if you work for an abortion clinic, that's okay. If you've been killing unborn babies, no problem there. I. It. It is sheer madness. But again, I'm glad that President Trump has taken the time to talk to these people. In fact, I'm convinced that President Trump is a little bit concerned about the fact that two people have been killed. And look, he's President of the United States. He should be, in the operations in Minneapolis and Minnesota, but he's continuing the operations nevertheless, let me just say something about this last situation that the administration is getting a lot of criticism because apparently, Bovine, and, Christian Om as well, made statements about this guy being a domestic terrorist and, that he was out to massacre ICE agents and so forth. And I don't know that there's any evidence to prove that. but at first blush, apparently there may not be, and they spoke a little bit too quickly. but I will say this. When you show up to confront armed agents of the federal government doing a lawfully required, mandated job of. Of. Of apprehending, arresting, detaining, deporting illegal aliens, criminals who are committing terrible crimes and happen to be in the country illegally, and you confront them physically and they know you're armed and they seek to disarm you and you resist, bad things are going to happen. Because if a person is armed and they resist being disarmed by law enforcement, that tells me that their intention is to attack. That's the way I would read that. Because if you don't intend to do anything and you're lawfully carrying that firearm and they say, would you allow us to take that off? You say, sure, go ahead. Because in the end, I m. Know they're gonna have to give it back if I haven't done anything wrong. But when you go, you start fighting them. Now, my question is, well, if you pull your gun, what's going to happen? And, folks, now you. You shooters know exactly what I'm talking about. Those of you who may not shoot, don't. But you shooters know exactly what I'm talking about. That doesn't take but a split second for you to be dead, depending on how fast that person is. And if you're in close quarters, you don't even have to aim. All you got to do is get it out and pull the trigger or squeeze the trigger and you're dead. So what do you do in a situation like that where a person is fighting? You see a movement that looks like they're going for the gun, it looks like they can get the gun. What do you do? Because if you wait three seconds, you could be dead in three seconds. Because it only takes a second to pull that firearm. So I certainly hope that, you know, when I hear this stuff, they should have shot the tires out on the truck. They should. He should have shot him in the leg. I mean, you know, say, boy, ignorance really is bliss, isn't it? Because it doesn't work that way in a dynamic situation. It simply does not in a situation like that you have to make a split decision, whether it's him or you.

Bishop E.W. Johnson: President should have demanded concessions from protesters

And you know you're not going to get a second chance to make it. And you can't wait till a gun is pointed at you and then say, well, you know what? I think maybe I better do something. It's too late. I'll tell you what I think that the President should have demanded of Walson Pryor when we come back. Because I think even before he talked to them, he should have demanded some concessions from them. And I'll tell you exactly what they are when we come back. This is Bishop E.W. jackson. I'm in for Abraham Hamilton III here on the Hamilton Corner standby. Folks, we'll be back in just a moment. A discipleship minute with Joseph Parker.

>> Joseph Parker: How tragic it is when people who say they love Jesus will see the need, see the problems, for whatever reason, pass by on the other side. Sometimes people may think, well, it's not my problem, and, I don't want to be a victim like he was. Well, that's a wrong perspective. Some may think, well, I'm busy. I've got other things to do. Well, it's easy to say, everybody's busy. Everybody has something to do. But by the grace of God, we see where God commended the Samaritan, he too had something to do, but he took time. He made time to stop and help with compassion someone who'd been beat up and left for dead on the side of the road by the world. You and I need to make time to live a life of compassion. We're called to be the hands and feet of Jesus Christ in the world. How important it is that we're faithful to do that. This is what we're made for.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Shining light into the darkness. This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio.

>> Bishop EW Jackson: Now, of course, who in the world am I to give advice to President Donald J. Trump? But I do have to point out that I think that Fry and Walsh are not deserving of. Of having a conversation with the President of the United States, not with President Donald J. Trump, unless they do the following. And if I had been, by some miracle of God, become president and face a situation like this, I would have said, you want to talk to me, you want to try to work this out, I do, too. But first I need you to hold the press conference in which you say to the people of Minnesota and the people of Minneapolis, both of you, you. You can, you can disagree with my policies all you want, but you need to a acknowledge that ICE agents have a statutory responsibility to do what they're doing. And whether you agree with it or not, they are not breaking the law because the law mandates that they again, apprehend, arrest and detain and deport people who are not here lawfully. And the fact that the people that they are focusing on are criminals makes it even more a, ah, mandate because they're really helping every single citizen of the country to be that much safer by getting these bad actors off the street. So you need to acknowledge that. And then secondly, you need to say to the people of Minnesota and Minneapolis, do not use your cars to ram ICE agents. Do not use your bodies, your bikes, bricks, stones, sticks, anything else to get in the way of their carrying out their duty. You can certainly peacefully protest. You can sing, you can march, but you cannot attack them in any way or use any instrumentality, including, by the way, a gun, to, to attack them. Three, do not take your gun to a protest and get into a confrontation with ICE agents where you, you, are actually physically confronting them and you are carrying a firearm. It will not end well for you. Don't do that. And do not go into a church and interrupt a worship service because you happen not to agree with the pastor and not to agree with the policies of the church or for any reason at all. You don't have a legal right to do that. And, and the FACE act subjects you to severe penalties for doing so. I remember the Biden administration put people in jail under the FACE act, which also protects churches and houses of worship. That's apparently something they did in order to get it passed because people were very reluctant to agree to somehow this special protection and felt it might not even pass constitutional muster to give the special protection to, to houses of baby killing and not give those special, protection to houses of worship. One a house of life, the other a house of death. You're going to protect the house of death, but the house of life, who cares? So they included churches. Well, people who sang, prayed, just sat down peacefully in front of these baby killing, clinics, if you want to call them that. I was going baby killing factories. these people were, some of them were put in jail for little old ladies in their 70s. Put in jail for 11 years in federal prison. So you mean to tell me you can walk into a church and obstruct the worship service under the same act, but somehow. Oh, it's no big deal. It's only as Keith Ellis said, you. They're practicing their First Amendment rights. Are you kidding me? How about Reading the law, buddy, I think President Trump should have exacted from them some requirements, because I. I am. I. Folks, I've had it with these people saying ICE agents are executing people, they're kidnapping people, they're scanding people away and putting. Taking them to secret sites. And, I mean, this. This is so ridiculous. They're Nazis. They're Gestapo. And. And then you want to talk to the President about how we can. How we can make things better. Stop making these incendiary statements. That would be a good start. But I tell you, and I don't trust them. Even after the President meets with him, I don't trust them because I think these people are fundamentally evil. I really do. I think they are fundamentally evil. They're wicked. They're. In fact, I'd go so far as to say they're demon possessed, because they have not ever shown not one iota of sympathy for any American killed by one of these illegal alien murderers and rapists and, robbers and child molesters. Not a single expression of sympathy for any of those Americans. But, oh, my goodness, Abrego Garcia, you know, he's. He's a Maryland man, and, oh, the mistreatment that he's. The guy's a human trafficker and a gang banger. So forget about his victims. Oh, no, they don't matter. But he matters, because, after all.

New York is considering a law where illegal aliens can get lethal injections

Look, I've said this before, so forgive me for the repetition, but I got to keep driving this point home. None of this makes any sense unless you understand that. That these people do not care about the human beings involved at all on any side. What they care about is power. And they see these illegal aliens as a pathway to ultimate hegemony over this country, the same way they have it over California. They think they have it over Virginia, but they've got it over Illinois. They've got it over Massachusetts. They've got it over Maine. They've got it over Vermont, and probably a number of other states in the country. And that's what they want for America. That's the dystopia that they want America to become, frankly, a haven of demons. That's what they want NewSong York to become. A haven of demons, of idolatry. I mean, NewSong York. I think Governor Hochul has already signed, euthanasia bill, where he basically, you know, when a person has. I forget what the exact amount of time is left to live, but have so much time. At least the doctor. I think it's six months, actually. Six months or less that the doctor gives them to Live, they can be prescribed death pills so they can go off and kill themselves. So now they've, now they've got every taxpayer, complicit in murdering people, because that's what it is. How many times have we heard stories about somebody given six months and they live six years or, or they, or, or the disease goes away? I mean, again, but, but this, this is what you get when people only care about power and control and manipulation of people. By the way, in the next segment, I'm start taking your calls, and get your views on this 888-589-8840. That's 888-589-8840.

A New York teen is missing after apparently being lured through social media

Let me bring up an entirely different subject because this one's near and dear to my heart. And I want to also see, what you all think. I'm sure you've heard about this missing teen out of NewSong York. This, apparently, this, the kid was just. Forgive me, folks, I shouldn't say was. I have to tell you, when a kid's been gone this long, I have my doubts. He's been lured through Roblox, to go meet somebody. Nobody knows who, nobody knows where, except they think it was in NewSong York City. I have my doubts. I hope that this kid survives, but forgive me, because I was about to use, about to talk of him in the past tense, and that's not fair yet. But, you know, we need to be praying for this kid. But he's missing now. Apparently a scholar, outstanding student, athletic, but a small kid, and somebody lured him away and he hasn't been heard from since. Through social media. Now, I'm sure you all know that there is a case pending right now. In fact, I think the, they're about to go to trial. Although Tick Tock has settled this case, this is a class action. Well, I know it's not a class action suit, but it, but it involves a number of defendants. I should say, TikTok has settled, and Snapchat has settled, but, YouTube and Meta apparently are going to trial. and this is whether claimed by the plaintiff that these big tech organizations have engineered these algorithms and engineered these products in a way that is intended to addict young people to them, that is intended to take control away from the young person and put it in the hands of the social media giant, and that they intentionally have designed things to achieve that end. That they've. I think they even argue that they borrowed from the cigarette industry in order to help achieve addiction. Of course, this is not physical addiction. Per se. But the brain is a very powerful tool folks. And when the brain experiences pleasure doing something, I mean that can be just as addictive, maybe, not as physiologically threatening to the life of the person or. Although in some circumstances we can see, in the circumstances with this young boy, it m could become life threatening, but not because you've got your head buried in a screen, but just because of what it does to your ability to function outside of that screen where people have got to have the phone, they've got to have the screen. and as you all know, some states now are imposing restrictions on how much time a young person can spend with social media. that'll be, it'll be interesting to see how they enforce that because the parents are going to really have to be the ultimate ones to determine that. But folks, I'll tell you, I've got two young grandchildren now and I just wonder what in the world their lives are going to be like as they grow up in this increasingly high tech screen dominated virtual reality world. Apparently Roblox is a virtual reality, a game program or something like that. Now I don't use it, I'm not that familiar with it, but apparently it really pulls you in. And some of the kids who use it, they live in it. And this is where predators know that they can meet a lot of kids. And this is not the first time we've seen somebody using Roblox in order to lure a child, into a dangerous situation. So we know whoever lured this kid away, whoever that person is, is evil because why would you lure a kid away from its parents in its home? And the kids been missing now for I guess, at least a day. Why would you do that unless you have nefarious intentions? So I'm curious what you all think. I'm sure many of you have grandchildren. and I'll tell you, they are, they are attracted to these devices. When I visit with my grandchildren, I have my phone out. Oh man, they want to push those buttons. well, my grandson is too young yet, but my granddaughter, oh, oh my goodness. I mean she wants to push those buttons, she wants to look at that screen, she wants to get into it. So you know, and even of course there are very innocent games because I found a couple for my iPad to let her play with so that she can use the iPad. But she is strictly, strictly focused in a game designed for children which you know, deals with you know, math and science and, and writing and all that stuff as opposed to Some of these other things, you know, you get these kids scrolling through these YouTube shorts. Some of these shorts are. I mean, they're downright dangerous because of the little ideas that they implant in children's minds that children shouldn't have. And then they grow up with this stuff. Now, I believe that my daughter and husband are quite aware of this and very restrictive. But, you know, the people who invented these things, most of them, I've seen them in interviews saying they don't let their children use it. Well, that's telling, isn't it? They do not allow their children to use it. And that tells me that they know something that the world does not know, because obviously they want everybody else to have their children use it, but they don't let theirs use it. And I think they know it's because they know the power it can exert over the mind of a child. So. And boy, this is one of these areas where. And by the way, section 230 that protects these big tech firms from liability, this test, this case that is pending right now about, to start the trial, is going to test that proposition. Because you and I know people that rich, that powerful with these big institutions, you and I know that notion that they are not in control. It's just a platform, and they have nothing to do what's put on. Well, we learned in Covid that's a lie because they were happy to knock me off and anybody else off who said anything that they didn't like about COVID or anything else. And that seems to have been loosening up under President Trump. But we know this idea that, no, we don't have any control over what. Oh, no, it's strictly a neutral platform. That is a lie. That is a big, fat, ugly lie because they use it all the time to promote what they want to promote and to suppress what they want to suppress. So in my view, Section 230 is now obsolete. They need to be held accountable if they, if they can know to take little old me off because I said something that they didn't like, and therefore I'm suspended and to do it multiple times. You mean to tell me they don't know what some gigantic game is doing, in order in creating the opportunity for adult predators to masquerade as children and prey on them and lure them away? They don't know that. They don't know that child pornography is being used. They don't know that. Give me a break. Give me a break. So as far as I'm concerned, section 230 needs to go by the boards and just say, look, it really is not a neutral platform. You own it, you control it. Stop kidding each other anymore. And what you allow to be on that platform, that is deleterious to children and hurts them or hurts anybody for that matter, you're going to be responsible for.

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>> Bishop EW Jackson: And we're back. I'd like to get your views on anything I've raised or any other issue you'd like to raise. The number is 888-589-8840. That's 888-589-8840. We've got some lines open, but let's get to your calls. Let's go to Iris in Texas.

Stan Bishop: President Trump should have taken stand against Minneapolis ICE protests

Iris, welcome.

>> Caroline: Oh, hi. Bishop, I want to tell you that I admire your courageous Stan, what you said about, Minneapolis and about what our president should do. I just wish he was listening, because I think that would have been a great way to handle it. I'm very disappointed. When I heard him talking, to the governor and them today, it was disappointing because, he should be taking the stand that you suggested that so many of us patriotic Americans have taken and got him elected to do that. And there has been a lot of miss by the lying state media that have colored the ICE agents, as evil when they are doing the work of the Lord and more important in doing the work of what the Constitution says. So go for it. And I pray that others will make their opinions, knowing on this because if they don't, we will see this in many other states. And they, you know that the Democrats, are rejoicing right now, for what has happened and I don't want to see it spread. Thank you.

>> Bishop EW Jackson: Well Iris, thank you so much for the call. Yeah. Look, it's really not rocket science, is it? Because it would be different if these guys had simply said, look, you've got a right to protest, we will protect that right, but you don't have a right to engage in lawlessness and we will not defend that, we will not support that. But all along they've been saying the very things that have led to all this violence and These attacks on ICE agents, I mean threats to ICE agents up 8,000% from where they were before President Trump took office and commissioned these ICE agents to actually do their job, which they weren't allowed to do before. 8,000%. Yeah. I'd like to see pry and walls held accountable by the way. Not just being required to say to people, stop doing the things you're doing that are not part of peaceful protest, but I think they ought to be looked at in terms of obstruction of justice and obstruction of federal agents in the lawful execution of their duty. yeah. So these people need to put on, be put on the hot seat because I think they far more than anything else are responsible for the two deaths that have happened so far. Let's go to. I believe that's Tyron in Oklahoma. Do I have it right, Tyrone?

>> Bishop EW Jackson: yes.

>> Bishop EW Jackson: Okay.

>> Bishop EW Jackson: and I just want to say I agree with what you're saying, but my deal is that Trump had religious advisors, right? But what they, what he didn't take in is that truth has a two edged sword because both left and right. And also when we expose truth to the light, he might have not liked what he saw when we saw the what was exposed. Because evil people, they love the darkness and that what they sticking to. And I think the temptation comes for compromise. And since he is the art of the deal, I think he's wondering what to do, trying to come up with compromise. And also it's very simple. We have, we, we engage in warfare and it's, and the so called experts. Have you read Romans 1? Thinking themselves wise. Taking the Bibles out of schools, Christ is the beginning of wisdom. The experts who don't know what a woman is, and they don't know what immunity is, and it's all because of sin and the love of money has infiltrated and the end game is to kill, steal and destroy. And also they don't like the Bible because the Bible has logic in it at the beginning of wisdom. And also they took it out because it's faith. We come from hearing through the Word, faith from him to the Word. So they took it out of the school because they don't want our faith to increase. They want to listen to them. And in the Garden of Eden, what was attacked with faith when he said, did God say what we want to say? We want to be. We want to be God. To put faith in ourselves and set them in God.

>> Bishop EW Jackson: All right, Tyrone, I've got it. But listen, thank you so very much for the call. I appreciate it. I think I understand. Excuse me, folks. I think clear my throat there a little bit. I think I understand what you meant, when you said, what's being exposed. you know, these videos, as we all know, can show you some things. They can't show you everything. and so there needs to be a thorough exposition of what actually happened. And I think that's what we would all want, keeping in mind always that the standard is not perfection. The standard is what would a reasonable person do under the circumstances. In circumstances where you have to make a split decision over someone pointing a car at you, make a split decision over someone who is armed with a, with a, with a 9 millimeter pistol, who is refusing to allow themselves to be disarmed by police. boy, those, those are not easy situations where you. Again, where you don't get to go home and sit down and think about it for several hours and then come back and finish the. I mean, it is right there in your face and it is do or die. But again, the people who put themselves in these situations, why would you think that any confrontation, any physical confrontation with the police officer, with, a law enforcement officer, is going to end well for you? It's not. Now, one would hope that you wouldn't necessarily have to be killed in the process, but you would have to expect that you could be severely injured and maybe even killed, depending upon the threat that you seem to pose to that officer at the time. So, you know, these folks, Walls and Fry, in my view, bear the brunt of the responsibility for setting the atmosphere that has caused these things to happen. Not the ice agents who simply like to do their jobs. And what about, what about trying to break into the hotel where the ice agents are resting? I mean, that. What is this, the wild, wild West? Bring them out here, we're going to hang them, whether you like it or not. I mean, what, what is that all about? And again, why don't the mayor and the governor say, hey, folks, we will not tolerate that you are, you are destroying private property and you are putting these people who are Americans and human beings and doing a job, you are putting them in fear of their lives when you do things like that. And we're not gonna stand with that. We're not. But they say nothing. But the moment something happens, it's just like the whole George Floyd thing. It's just like the police brutality thing. You know, you can call police pigs, you can spit in their faces, you can throw rocks at them, you can shoot at them, you can try to run them over with a car, but the moment something happens where a police officer defending his or her life ends up hurting or killing somebody, oh, boy, you know, it's. It's the end of the world. Now, you know, we told you they're a bunch of racists, but never any concern for how they put their lives on the line trying to protect themselves, their fellow officers and civilians. 888-589-8840 is the number.

Roy in Mississippi says ICE agents are responsible for Minnesota deaths

Let's come back to the calls. Let's go to Roy in Mississippi. Roy, how's the weather where you are?

>> Caroline: It's cold, brother. How about you?

>> Bishop EW Jackson: It's cold here, too.

>> Caroline: I just wanted to, say thank you because you're the first one I've heard say it, and such conviction. But those two people who were killed in Minnesota, if the government of Minnesota, would have cooperated like they supposed to, to start with, STPP will still be alive. They would still be alive. But because they pushed their rhetoric and they push their, opinion of what ICE and what President Trump is and all this, it's round the people up. And to me, I think they're responsible for those two deaths.

>> Bishop EW Jackson: Yeah, I agree with you, Roy, and thank you so much for the call. look, I've said when you call people Nazis and you say they're the Gestapo and they're executing people and they're kidnapping people off the street and they're taking them to secret sites, when you say things like that, that, to me, that is code language for you do whatever you think you need to do. To them because these people are committing, this is Tim Waltz's word, atrocities. Atrocities. Now the true Nazis committed atrocities. These ICE agents aren't committing any atrocities. I mean, are you kidding me? But you're right when you say things like that to me that is code language for by any means necessary, stop them because what they're doing is evil. And again, they need to be held accountable for that.

Roy Bishop says cities are responsible for deaths during anti-ICE protests

Okay, let's come back to your calls. Let's go to Samuel, also in Texas. Samuel, welcome.

>> Caroline: Hey, good morning or good good evening there, Bishop. You know, I, I have one word for a good noun for governor, Waltz. And then the, the mayor on fry. And that is culpability. Because with their rhetoric and everything they've been saying and about resisting ICE and everything else, they are ultimately responsible for these unfortunate individuals like the woman who tried to use the car and got killed as a result. the guy who recently just got shot because he had a weapon. And apparently he was, about a week or so ago he was interfering with ICE again. And during that time he was blocking roads and everything beforehand and he now he lost his life. And even for the two women, one woman bit off the finger of one of the ICE agents and another woman bit ICE agents off the hand as well. They are responsible for that felonies that, for obstruction, justice, all this so called protest, which in reality is not, it's not the type of thing covered under the Constitution, the first Amendment, because it's not peacefully assembling. They're blocking roads, they're interfering with agents doing their jobs, they're putting them in risk. And then not just that, but most cities have laws against certain noise at a certain time of night been, guess what they're doing. They're sitting there, they're making all this noise in the hotels, in the ICE agents, they're m trying to sleep. They've already escalated the situation because every time they go somewhere they've been bombarded with a bunch of people interfering, they're trying to sleep and it's already stressful. So they're culpable and I believe that they should be held responsible. Now I do agree that I do have, I do think that President Trump being a leader, that for him to reach out and talk to them was nothing wrong with that per se. We don't know what the conversation was all about, but in the same vein I believe that was responsible to do that because all they're going to do if he's were to send troops in or whatever, says the Insurrection act they'll just spin that up to make it something. We told you we were going to be a tyranny. He was a tyrannical guy, and that's all they would be doing. So I just want to kind of point that out and thank you for everything you've been doing.

>> Bishop EW Jackson: Thank you, Samuel. Thank you for the call. Yeah. I don't disagree that he should have talked to them. I don't disagree with that at all. But I just think he should have made them make some concessions because they need to acknowledge the fact that they have spun this stuff up themselves. And you're right. These are not peaceful protests. This is mob violence is what it is. Imagine yourself sleeping in a hotel, and you got people outside the hotel trying to break in to get you. They're not just interfering with your sleep, brother. They're interfering with your peace of mind, with your sense of safety. Because you think, well, if they do get through and they spot me, what would they do? Well, worked up like that, who knows what they would do? But I don't think it would be good. So thank you for the call, Roy, but. But I agree with you. I think ultimately talking to them is not a problem, but they need to be held accountable, too.

Bishop says protesters are distraction from fraud occurring in Minnesota

All right, let's go to Joe in Ohio. Joe, welcome. Almost out of time, Joe, but you may be the last one, but good to have you.

>> Joe: All right, thank you, Bishop, for all that you and Abraham do, and thank you to all the DHS agents, if they're listening, for all they do to keep us safe. Your last two callers. Nailed it. I think these, paid, protesters are a big distraction, from the major fraud that is occurring in Minnesota. You know, easily 9 billion to 18 billion in fraud. I think these. I think they're paying these protesters to take the light off of that and give them time to clean up whatever fraud they can. And I think the swamp in Minnesota goes pretty deep. and they've got a lot of these officials paid off. there's stories that they, You know, people are going through the Minnesota airport with one way tickets, out of the country with suitcases and briefcases just for millions of dollars in cash. And the rank and file TSA agents would stop them, and then the TSA supervisors would let them go. So I think the swamp is deeper in Minnesota than we realize. I think it's deeper in Washington, D.C. obviously. And I think once they get into the bigger places, the Illinois and California, if it's 9 to 18 billion in Minnesota, it's probably 90 to 180 billion in Illinois and California.

>> Bishop EW Jackson: All right, Joe, thank you for the call. We're out of time. yeah, look, this is. That situation is a mess. Ilhan Omar is being investigated, by the Justice Department, because I'm sure you all heard the stories. I mean, she literally, from one year to the next, went from being worth, I don't know, some thousands of dollars to being worth millions of dollars. How did that happen? All right, folks, it's been great to be with you. As always. Thank you all so much. God bless each and every one of you. I've been in for Abraham Hamilton iii. I'm sure he'll be back shortly. But in right now, I say stand up, step up, speak up, refuse to back up because we cannot be defeated if we will not quit because we are on God's side.

>> Caroline: The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.