Josh and Katy open the episode with a sober look at two fertility stories that raise serious questions about how children are being created and cared for today. They examine a report about a wealthy businessman using surrogacy to produce more than 100 children, along with a Florida court case involving DIY insemination, both of which show what can happen when adult desire, money, or convenience drive reproduction. The conversation then turns to marriage, reflecting on a popular essay by a woman who nearly divorced but stayed for her children, and what her story reveals about commitment and stability. The episode closes with listener questions, including candid advice about dating and a practical discussion of “bid theory” and how everyday attention shapes marriages.

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