This week, Katy and Josh unpack two disturbing surrogacy stories making headlines. One involves a registered sex offender who crowdfunded his way into custody of an infant, and the other centers on a California couple under FBI investigation after commissioning 21 children via surrogacy. Together, they examine how surrogacy laws sidestep critical protections that would apply in adoption, and how treating children as products can lead to devastating consequences, even when everything appears legal on paper.

In the second half, Jenn joins the conversation for a candid Q&A, offering insight and perspective as the team responds to heartfelt listener questions about whether or not it's worth it to have children, someone stuck in a loveless marriage, and whether kids are meant to heal us.