If we lose this cultural war, we're going to have a hedonistic society

>> Donald Trump: If we lose this cultural war, we're going to have a hedonistic, humanistic society.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Discover the story of the culture warrior, Don Wildmon and how he went head to head with Hollywood playboy, the homosexual agenda and the Disney empire. The movement Don started paved the way for Christians to boldly stand for truth and righteousness in a hostile culture. Watch Culture Warrior today for free. Visit culturewarrior movie.

Tim Wildman: Welcome to Today's Issues on American Family Radio Network

>> Chris Woodward: Welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian.

>> Tim Wildmon: Response to the issues of the day. Huh?

>> Chris Woodward: Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Today's Thursday, September 4, 2025. I'm Tim Wildmon, as the announcer just told you. And in studio with me is Fred Jackson. Good morning, Fred.

>> Fred Jackson: Good day.

>> Tim Wildmon: And Chris Woodber.

>> Chris Woodward: Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: And out of studio with me is brother Ray Pritchard. How you doing, Ray?

>> Tim Wildmon: hey, I'm doing great, Tim. How are you today?

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, fall is in the air. How about there?

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, man, it's. Oh, I'm just looking. It's 64 degrees here in Kansas City, heading up toward a high of only 77. So really nice September weather.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's, 79 here in, Tupelo High, high of 83 this afternoon.

>> Fred Jackson: We're doing okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: What about what? Let's look up Fred's hometown. Fred, give me your hometown.

>> Fred Jackson: Well, let's go with Halifax.

>> Tim Wildmon: Go Halifax. See what's going on in Halifax with the weather. Older you get, the more you care about the weather. I don't know. That is some kind of strange phenomena. All right, 69 back home for it.

>> Fred Jackson: Not bad. That's the last September morning. And you got to remember it is 12 noon up there. Just it's five after 12 going up.

>> Tim Wildmon: To hive 72 there.

>> Tim Wildmon: And it'd be a great fishing day, wouldn't it?

>> Fred Jackson: Great fishing day. And wait about four weeks and you'll have fall colors.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, fall color. Really? Oh, m. They're gorgeous.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, they are.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that's really, it's kind of similar to New England, right?

>> Fred Jackson: Absolutely.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, yeah. Same latitude.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: A few hundred miles north of, what, Maine?

>> Fred Jackson: Well, actually, if you fly east from Maine, you catch a lot of the Maritimes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so if I were to go to, let's say I flew into, Maine, for example. Got a car.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: What would you do? Drive up the coastline to Halifax?

>> Fred Jackson: Well, if you flew into Portland, Maine, you could drive along the coast and you Cross the border at, St. Stephen.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: And you hit New Brunswick.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right.

>> Fred Jackson: And, then you can drive through Moncton, New Brunswick, where I used to live, and then carry on to Nova Scotia or Prince Edward Island.

>> Tim Wildmon: But that's a beautiful drive there.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, absolutely gorgeous. And, of course, I'm a bit prejudice. I come from the part of Nova Scotia called Cape Breton Island.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: And that has the Highlands.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: I've told you before about the Cabot Trail.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: One of the most beautiful drives in the world. Cabot Trail.

>> Tim Wildmon: Cabot Trail, yes.

>> Fred Jackson: Especially fall colors.

>> Tim Wildmon: Have you ever been there, Ray?

>> Tim Wildmon: I have been to New Brunswick several times, but never to Nova Scotia and. Okay, Fred, I'm looking at it right now. Cape Breton Island.

>> Fred Jackson: You.

>> Tim Wildmon: Would you. It's up on the.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is.

>> Tim Wildmon: Would be the north. The northern edge of Nova Scotia.

>> Fred Jackson: Northeast. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Northeast.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. Yeah.

Fred gets lobsters shipped to him from New England once a month

>> Tim Wildmon: That's gorgeous.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's beautiful.

>> Fred Jackson: Beautiful place.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, let's put it on a bucket list.

>> Fred Jackson: Right there, it has the Bedor Lakes. Kind of. It's. It's kind of like your hand. Shaped like your hand, the island. And in the middle of it all is the beautiful Bedor Lakes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: Oh, it's just. It's just gorgeous.

>> Tim Wildmon: Let's put it on our bucket list.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Places to see.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. And I'm not paid by the Cape Breton tourism industry.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: I get no checks.

>> Tim Wildmon: All, Right. You're not even paid in lobsters. They could pay you in lobsters. And you'd be happy about that, right?

>> Fred Jackson: I'd be a very wealthy guy. Lobsters are not cheap.

>> Tim Wildmon: You weren't with us yesterday, Ray, but we were talking about. Fred gets, About once a month, he gets lobsters shipped to him from, New England in, you know, the dry ice.

>> Tim Wildmon: For real, Fred.

>> Tim Wildmon: Not lobsters. But the lobsters. The lobster meat, 24 hours.

>> Fred Jackson: You get it from, Well, it comes from Maryland. It can come from Maine. And, they ship it overnight, UPS or FedEx. And you get it on your table within 24 hours.

>> Tim Wildmon: And you get it shipped in about once a month, huh?

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. once every couple of months. I love it when we get the year.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Reminds him of being back home.

>> Fred Jackson: It is. It's wonderful. We have lobster rolls.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: Oh.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: And potato salad.

>> Tim Wildmon: My wife Alice, she could live off lobster rolls. She would need anything else?

>> Fred Jackson: I'll get you the address.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Give me the address. That'd be great.

Chris: Do you get anything shipped to your home from around the world

All right. You're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Good morning, Chris.

>> Chris Woodward: Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: Chris, do you get anything shipped to your home from around the world?

>> Chris Woodward: Amazon boxes, but who doesn't?

>> Tim Wildmon: There's no food in there.

>> Chris Woodward: No, no, not, not that I'm aware of.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Chris Woodward: yeah, we, But a number of people do that. I actually, I used to think, that, like, ordering stuff online was kind of silly. Like, who in the world would do this? For example, Papa John's, they were among the first, restaurants or businesses to do the whole. Order your product online and we'll deliver it to you. And I was like, that's so st. You already have your phone in your hand. Just call them. And then they had like the papajohns.com bowl football, game in Birmingham. And, then all of a sudden now you're ordering your Chick Fil A online or whatever. So I clearly was not the investor to listen to, 20 years ago when all that stuff was going right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: One thing for Ray. Ray used to live in Chicago many years. Yeah. Yes, you can get Chicago deep, pizza, deep dish pizza shipped to you overnight.

>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, we have done that. Fred Donna's, Lou Malnati's.

>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, what do you do? What do you do? Just, you pop it in the oven when you get there and cook it for half an hour or so or what?

>> Fred Jackson: It probably comes to come frozen for you.

>> Tim Wildmon: It came if frozen hard. Right. It's got the dry ice around it and everything, you know, but you defrost a little bit and pop it in there and cook it and, it's as close to heaven as you're going to get here in Kansas City. If pizza, if pizza is what you love.

>> Fred Jackson: All right.

>> Tim Wildmon: I have to remember that. That's interesting. I didn't know you could do pizza like that.

>> Fred Jackson: Absolutely.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, it's great.

>> Tim Wildmon: You don't even have to risk being carjacked. That's a great thing.

>> Fred Jackson: Segue into the news.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, I was thinking of a segue.

>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead, Chris.

President Donald Trump is not ruling out sending troops to New Orleans to fight crime

>> Chris Woodward: One other place, that you can get, a lot of good seafood is the great state of Louisiana. But unfortunately, New Orleans is, a big reason why not everybody goes to Louisiana. That's because New Orleans, like a Jackson, Mississippi, a Memphis or Chicago, they have a lot of crime. and I'll begin here. Yesterday, after hosting the, leader of Poland at the White House, the President was asked about his plans to possibly send National Guardsmen to Chicago and other places. And the President, Donald Trump, is not ruling out the idea of sending troops to New Orleans.

>> Donald Trump: Clip 11 so we're making a determination now, do we go to Chicago or do we go to a place like New Orleans where we have a great Governor Jeff Landry, who wants us to come in and straighten out a very nice section of this country that's become quite, you know, quite tough, quite bad. So we're going to be going to, maybe Louisiana and you have New Orleans, which has a crime problem. We'll straighten that out in about two weeks.

>> Chris Woodward: Now, Republican Governor Jeff Landry, unlike Democrat Governor J.B. pritzker of Illinois, Governor Jeff Landry told Fox just before the show started, hey, ah, I'm all four troops coming here to help curb crime and help people.

>> Tim Wildmon: Clip 12 well, look, we're going to.

>> Donald Trump: Talk to the president. We will do whatever the President would like us to do. We want the federal resources that, whatever he wants to send us. Again, look, I think it's important to recognize that again, whether it's New Orleans or Memphis, those folks in Chicago, they need the National Guard more than anyone else. They seem to not want it. but again, whether it's New Orleans, any of those cities, Bill, I think the President has the right combination. I think the President has the right combination.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, okay, so, yesterday we talked about this. What's the constitutional question at hand? Does the President, United States have the authority to call out the National Guard and employee. Is that the right word? The National Guard owned cities. And I think the answer is no, unless there's some sort of a national emergency. That's, or, or, and this is my opinion, you know, but I think. Or you're invited in by the governor of the state. And in this case, Governor Landry of, Louisiana is inviting the President's help in curbing crime in, the largest city in Louisiana. So I don't have a problem with that because he's asking them. However I would, I would ask, I would want to know this. Has Governor Landry called out his own National Guard to help in New Orleans? That's what I would say. You need to first of all, call out your own National Guardsmen from around the state of Louisiana to go to New Orleans. That would be the most. That would be the first step I would take. But, but, what I'm saying is the secondary question there. Does the, if the governor calls in, the ask the president for help? I don't have a problem with it. Ray, go ahead. Your thoughts on this.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, first of all, when the Governor of Louisiana says, I welcome this help, then there is no constitutional issue there's.

>> Tim Wildmon: No legal question at all.

>> Tim Wildmon: And I think it's a fantastic idea. especially when, Tim, I mean, you've made the point very carefully. It's a whole other situation in Chicago where both the mayor and the governor.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: For a lot of reasons, do not want any help from the Fed.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. Well.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, fine. That's a different question. I, did find it interesting, Tim, that the president said, take about two weeks.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. That's Trump being Trump.

>> Chris Woodward: I would avoid setting deadlines.

>> Tim Wildmon: He shoots off his mouth on, on things like that where he's right. He's right on the overall general principle of something. And then he'll just say something like, you know, two weeks, we'll have it solved.

>> Tim Wildmon: well, you know, the other side of it is whatever has happened in D.C. certainly has happened quicker than any of us expected.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's true. That's true. I'm just. We all know it's, you know, you bake that in with Trump. He, he, his mouth gets him. I better not say it like that. his, his mouth says a lot of things that, you know, are flamboyant, I'll put it this way. But his buddies, his, his prince, his general principles and his core instincts on political issues are almost always right. in the end, he may take some time to prove it. Go ahead.

>> Fred Jackson: I think. I don't believe Trump is going to force, troops into Illinois, Chicago. I don't think he's going to do that. I don't either, but he's winning. He's kind of starting to win the PR game over Pritzker and over Mayor Johnson of Chicago. Because, now you're seeing a steady stream of residents of Chicago on Fox, some of their political leaders saying, listen, Pritzker and Johnson, it's fine for them. They have their own security detail. People, watch over their house. Houses. Here we are on the south side of Chicago, whatever the case may be, and we don't have the protection that they do. So they're saying to Trump, why don't you come to town? I think what Trump may do before it's over, he won't get an invitation, but he's going to go to Chicago and he's going to have a news conference in a particular area that's high crime, all that sort of thing, and that will draw attention to it. Pritzker. and it's. I'm not the first to say this. Pritzker and Johnson are afraid if those troops were to come in, they would be successful in bringing the crime rate down in Chicago.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that's what the former police chief of Chicago said, which we led the story with. Who was it? What's the gentleman's name?

>> Chris Woodward: Oh, the, the ex police chief is Jody Weiss, if I said his name correctly.

>> Tim Wildmon: We have audio for that or we do not.

>> Chris Woodward: I can share the link or mention.

>> Tim Wildmon: But that was interesting. I saw that story last night. The former Chicago Police, department, chief of police, he said out loud, he said the reason the governor and the mayor don't want Trump coming here with troops is because it might, he might work.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, well, and now you have D.C. as proof.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, and I have that audio of the mayor of D.C. again, if you want where she's talking about how Trump's intervention Dick here did help.

Mayor Browser of D.C. originally opposed bringing in National Guard

>> Tim Wildmon: Ah, how long is that?

>> Chris Woodward: It's 29.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. This is Mayor Browser of D.C. she was originally opposed to President Trump and the District of Columbia, you know, bringing in the National Guard, but then when they came in and it's basically stopped the crime, then she changed her, to her credit, she changed her, her tune. Right, so this is what we're about to hear.

>> Chris Woodward: Correct.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, go ahead.

>> Chris Woodward: Clip 10.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And we greatly appreciate the surge of officers that enhance, what MPD has.

>> Tim Wildmon: Been able to do, in this city.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The difference between this period, this 20 day period of this federal surge and.

>> Tim Wildmon: Last year, represents a 87% reduction.

>> Ed Vitagliano: In carjackings in Washington D.C. wow.

>> Tim Wildmon: Democrat.

>> Fred Jackson: Democrat.

>> Tim Wildmon: Mayor. Yeah, yeah, and she's referring to the mpd. She's referring to the Metro Police Department.

>> Fred Jackson: Right, yeah. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well, all right, well, we'll see how this, goes. but I do agree with you, Fred, that that the citizens, the majority of citizens in these big cities that have this crime problem, they want something done. but again I say that and then, sound like I'm talking out of both sides of the mouth. But they keep voting for Democrats. I don't, I don't know what to.

>> Fred Jackson: Tell you, but if this former chief is right, that, that Pritzker and, and Johnson don't want Trump to send troops in because it might work, that lives would be saved, that shootings would be down.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's called Trump derangement syndrome, Fred.

>> Fred Jackson: It is, but they're willing to have more people in Chicago die violently rather than give Trump credit as the mayor.

>> Tim Wildmon: They wouldn't even have to invite the, you know, the governor there could do it himself. Right. Earlier, talking about Louisiana, the Governor of Illinois could say okay, I'm, I'm calling out the National Guard of Illinois to help with police, work, or making safe the streets of Chicago. That's all it would take. But they act like there is no problem. Basically, I saw a clip of the governor, his name, how do you pronounce his last name in Illinois?

>> Chris Woodward: Pritzker.

>> Tim Wildmon: Pritzker. I saw him the other day and he was like, doing a short video from. On a sunshiny day on a, on a peaceful street going, hey, there's no, you know, there's no problem here. I don't know what everybody's worried about. It's all good. And I'm going like, don't, don't make a video, a stage video like that when it's 10 o' clock in the morning on a peaceful. He said he was some kind of little village or something.

>> Chris Woodward: And you're surrounded by security.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's what I'm saying. And he's surrounded by all the security that a governor is afforded.

Florida will work to eliminate all childhood vaccine mandates, according to press

All right, you're listening to today's Issues. Next story.

>> Chris Woodward: I want to shift gears real quick and bring attention to a couple of things here out of the great state of Florida. when you go to afn.net Fred posted an associated Press story and the headline is Florida will work to eliminate all childhood vaccine mandates. There is also a video about this. Florida plans to become first aid to eliminate all childhood vaccine mandates. I bring this up because Florida made a huge announcement yesterday. And stay with us, throughout this afternoon and tomorrow because we are getting a reaction to this bottom line. Florida's surgeon, Attorney Surgeon, general, his name is Dr. Joseph Latapo. he made the announcement yesterday that again, Florida is going to eliminate all childhood vaccine mandates. They're not saying you can't get a ma, you can't get a shot if you want to. It's just saying it's your choice not to get vaccine mandates like a lot of states require. Here is Dr. ladapo, clip six.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The Florida Department of Health, in partnership with the governor, is going to be working to end all vaccine mandates in Florida law.

>> Tim Wildmon: All of them. All of them. All of them.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's wrong, it's immoral. They do not have the right to tell you what you put in your body. So people are going to have to make a decision. People are going to have to have to choose a side. And I am, I am telling you, right now that, you know, the, the moral side is it's so simple.

>> Fred Jackson: No one has that right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Guys, people have a right to make their own decisions, informed decisions. You want to put, you know, whatever different vaccines in your body, God bless you. I hope you make an informed decision. You don't want to put, whatever vaccines in your body, God bless you, and I hope you make an informed decision, and that's how it should be.

>> Tim Wildmon: Fred?

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, that was a big announcement yesterday, and you heard the cheers. And again, we want to emphasize they are not banning vaccines in Florida. All they're saying is we're getting rid of the mandates. The mandates that say you must or you can't work here or your kid can't go to school here. That's what they're getting rid of. This government heavy hand that says you must or you're going to pay a penalty in Florida. Now, if you're a mom and dad and you want your little girl, little boy to get those vaccines, you can still do it. But if you're a mom and dad and you say, no, I don't want my child getting vaccine A, B or C, then you have a right to do it. That's what they're working on there in Florida.

>> Tim Wildmon: so, so he. That's the, that's the, Surgeon General. Does every state have a surgeon general?

>> Chris Woodward: a lot of states have a health officer.

>> Tim Wildmon: okay, different names.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, same.

>> Tim Wildmon: The state's chief health officer. And then in Florida it's called the surgeon, General of the state of Florida. Would you think about what he was saying there? Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm trying to think of how, how to put this. I'm extremely skeptical about what, what he said. I wonder if it's not an overreaction to, to the justified, the justified feelings we all have about what happened with COVID 19. In fact, we feel like we were lied to repeatedly, over and over and over again. But I wonder, does it contribute to the public health to take away the mandate for the tetanus shot or for the, polio or for smallpox or for, what else we. Rubella, measles, mumps, things like that. and the jury, I mean, we don't know yet what the long range outcome can be. But I am on the side of. Because I don't believe all vaccines are bad, and I'm on the side of saying the ones that we know and are proven to be effective, it's not a bad thing to require that our kids have them for their sake and for the sake of other children in the school.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I was, you know, I'm. When you're not a doctor and you're not a scientist. Right. You don't study this stuff for a living.

>> Tim Wildmon: You.

>> Tim Wildmon: You look at somebody with a white coat and you go, what do you think?

>> Chris Woodward: I'm going?

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, true. So it's. It's hard. And then when. When people in white coats disagree, you go. And I don't know what to make of all this. How am I supposed to figure this out?

>> Fred Jackson: I.

>> Tim Wildmon: But, that's what I thought. I thought the same things you thought I thought. I appreciate freedom and liberty, and we all want. And we don't want forced vaccinations on people. But. And that's what he's saying. You can still get vaccinated. Yep. For all these things, if you want to. But the, mandates by the state of Florida are taken off. Can he do that unilaterally? The surgeon general?

>> Fred Jackson: They can take one. No, I think it has to be approved by the legislature. they can. They can take the mandates away. But, you know, what Ray is saying, is very true. I think what happened is that the experience of COVID I know. And Covid mandates have just left a bad taste in people's mouths.

>> Tim Wildmon: And the forced.

People losing their jobs, military people being thrown out over COVID vaccine

People losing their jobs, military people being thrown out. And now and then. I never will forget Biden when he was pre. I think soon after he was president. and him saying, you know, all these people are getting fired for not getting the COVID vaccine. And like we said, the military losing their, you know, lifelong. They've been there for 20, 25 years. You. You had this happen in Europe.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Your family. So. And then. And you go in, like, And then Biden says, well, guess what? you can. You. You can't. We only saying what we all knew. Well, we all know. So. You can't prevent getting Covid by the COVID vaccine shot. Okay, then it's not a vaccine in the. I don't know what the medical term is. Definition of vaccine exactly, but in the minds of people, vaccine means prevents you from getting something. we all agree with that in. Biden says, well, no, it doesn't prevent you from getting it. Okay, then. Then what does it do?

>> Tim Wildmon: What is it?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, so does it prevent you from spreading it? Nope.

>> Fred Jackson: No, that's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: So. So you're telling me you're going to be forced to get a shot of an experimental drug vaccine, everybody that's experimental and rushed to market, and you're telling me it doesn't stop you from getting it, and it doesn't stop you from spreading it and you're going to force people to get it or they lose their jobs. Yeah, Yep. That's what I'm saying. That's what you mentioned, the bad taste in the mouth of Americans.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's what led to the skepticism. and the bad quote, bad taste.

>> Fred Jackson: And the other thing that happened since all of that, we know that people, perfectly healthy, young males, athletes, have suffered consequences.

>> Tim Wildmon: What do you call it?

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. Effects. The heart lining around the heart. we have seen that. So, on top of the mandate, it's. We're now seeing it has had negative impacts on some people.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Okay, I want to tell y' all something. Just if you, if you mention this to Steve, like, this will trigger him, so there's no point in us being in this room. You just mentioned COVID vaccine. Forced Covid vaccines.

>> Fred Jackson: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: When Steve gets in here, stick to the bulldog. Well, he will. We can just leave the room. He will. He will rant on. all right, we'll be back momentarily with more of today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Stay with us.

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>> Chris Woodward: To more of today's Issues.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to afr, Tim, Fred, Chris and Ray. And, as always, we thank you for joining us. Sandy Rios is with us now. Sandy is host of Sandy Rios 24 7, a podcast we feature here at afr.net she has three podcasts a week typically, and she, Joins us ever so often on this program. Good morning, Sandy.

>> Sandy Rios: Good morning, Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: How are you?

>> Sandy Rios: So nice to hear your voice. It's nice to be with the rest of the guys. I always enjoy it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you.

>> Sandy Rios: Hi, guys.

>> Fred Jackson: Hello.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, we. This is an all male panel every.

>> Sandy Rios: Day, so I come to add spice to your panel.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, we asked. Nice to have a lady's voice on with us every once in a while.

Chinese leader Xi Jinping and Russian leader Vladimir Putin discuss organ transplants

so, Sandy, we were. Let's talk about that story. Fred, why don't you bring up that story for Sandy?

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, we know that, earlier this week the, Chinese leader Xi Jinping, had a military parade and he invited some friends, among them Vladimir Putin from Russia. And, the Indian leader was there and a few others. And there is a story out there in the last 24 hours that Xi and Putin were caught on what's called a hot mic. In other words, there's a reporter covering the event and they have a microphone that can pick up conversations from quite a distance. And according to various news outlets, Xi and Putin talked about, advancements in medical technology which may allow people to live up to 150 years. And, so they were quite excited about that.

>> Tim Wildmon: And how are they doing this conversation? Is it in Russian or Mandarin?

>> Fred Jackson: Well, they both. They both have translators, with them. Okay, that are. And that. That was. They were able to do that. But anyway, Sandy, that's what they're talking about. It was kind of interesting. And of course they're talking about, heart or heart, other organs like that, that people need to survive. but the problem is, is that, there's been reaction from doctors talking about transplants and that sort of thing saying, you know, we got 100,000 people out there that are waiting for these vital organs, like kidneys and that sort of thing. And we need to be focusing on that, not, not what these guys are talking about.

>> Sandy Rios: Well, I think. Hello, Fred. I think a couple of things struck me about this. First of all, it's really kind of stunning. You know, we never have, hot mics of these third, communist leaders. This is really wild, for them to have this private moment, because this was a very private discussion and to have this picked up. But the thing that struck me, of course, is that the conversation is in part about organ transplants making us live longer than she says. Yes, I'm hearing, we may, be able to live to 150 now. I think both of them are like 72, and Putin is really interested in all of this. Stuff. But here's the notable thing to me, Fred, is, you know, the Chinese have notoriously, for many years now, been forcibly harvesting organs from people they don't like, like the Uyghurs, and who knows who else, probably Christians. Who knows? And they do that with them living. They're living and they take their organs out. They don't use anesthetic. It's a horrific thing. And so they're talking about, you know, taking other people's organs to make them live longer. And as you said, there's no evidence, no scientific evidence that anything like that organ transplant makes you live longer. It's still a human organ. but the thing that struck me is, like, we have on display here two very different worldviews. You think about how the lack of belief in God. We've got the absence Putin. M might say he believes in God, but we know that he's got a godless man because of his actions, not his words. And of course, Chi is an outright communist. Putin's an old communist, a former maybe, still. but, they don't have any respect for humanity, for human life. They're thinking about their own longevity and they're thinking, obviously the Chinese, by their actions, are showing they don't have any regard for humanity. They'll just take their organs so that they can live longer. It just really struck me. And we've got the three leaders of the most threatening, godless states in the world, really. It's North Korea and, China and Russia, not the Russians. A lot of people. A lot of people in Russia do believe in God, but a lot of them don't. Fred. It's a real. It still has a real strong communist influence. And so, that's all. I just thought it's really striking. See, that's how. That's how it changes knowing Christ, how it changes our attitudes and beliefs and views and values on everything. And this just, just one illustration. And that could be the future of mankind if they gain power.

Hot mic moment caught Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin talking about mortality

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. we're talking to Sandy Rio. So we're talking about this hot mic moment caught, between the Chinese dictator. She. She. That's how you pronounce it? Yes, It's Xi in English. Right. I mean, yes, that's his last name, but pronounced it she, like S H E. Right. And Vladimir Putin, the, Russia dictator. They were together at a military parade in China. And when they were caught on hot mic talking about basically their mortality and how to escape it is what they were talking about. Ray, any thoughts on this.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, Sandy. Hey Ray, got a question for you. Would you like to live to be 150 years old?

>> Sandy Rios: Are you kidding me?

>> Tim Wildmon: While you were talking, that's what I was sitting here thinking about. About myself. So what do you say, Sandy?

>> Sandy Rios: Oh gosh, no, not for me. But, but let's see. But the thing of it is. Now Ray, that's a good question because that illustrates really what I'm. What I was trying to say another point of it. These guys think this life is all there is, right?

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Sandy Rios: So they have to cling and live as long as they can. We know, we know that a new heaven and a new earth awaits us and we actually are quite excited about it. So why would we live till 50 more years? I don't care about it. No, nothing.

>> Tim Wildmon: I agree with you. Now let me ask you this, I guess this could be a college course I'm about to bring up, but the. With, with communism, why is. Sandy, why is, why is communism linked with atheism?

>> Sandy Rios: well, because they're strictly, ah, describing their worldview. They are humanists, they believe in humans. They used to have humans, not God. And they, they're outright atheists. But that's the very essence of it. Lenin was Lynn was a godless man. He was, he was an atheist. And the whole system of communism is one that forces people to believe that there is no God. It's man's achievement. You may remember, you know what the Oscar looks like. It's this broad shouldered naked man, sort of androgynous, broad shoulder goes down to his long legs and he's very proud. The communists in Russia had this ah, that they use a symbol like that. They call it, it was everywhere in Russia as the monument to human achievement. It's humans, you see their statues, it's people work, the workers, it's all of this. It's about mankind and know God. And of course you were punished if you believed in God. So it's been that way from the very beginning of communism.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right? Same thing in China, Ray. Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but let me, let me just add something here, Sandy. You know the Bible says that God has put eternity inside every human heart. That's Ecclesiastes 3, 11 and Augustine's famous praise prayer. Lord, you've made us for yourself and our hearts are restless until they find rest in you. There is something inside every human heart. we are looking for something, we're looking for immortality one way or another. So Xi and Putin, they can't get it through the gospel. I mean, they could, but they won't. So. So what are you left with? Organ transplants? That is a terrible substitute for the gospel of Jesus Christ, because what does he give us? Not just life, but everlasting life, eternal life. And let me just say to all of our listeners, if you want to live forever, there's a way you can live forever.

>> Sandy Rios: Gloriously. Gloriously, yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Gloriously. Put your trust in Jesus Christ and you will live with God forever.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amen.

>> Sandy Rios: Yes, I do.

Tomorrow we're going to have a discussion with Matt Staver about gay marriage

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, well, Sandy, what do you got coming up on your, podcast this week?

>> Sandy Rios: Well, tomorrow we're going to have a discussion with Matt Staver about the future of the. Of, gay marriage. It's really interesting because, you know, he's actually representing Kim Davis. I think her name is from Kentucky. I remember interviewing her way back when this happened. Just this, because she was the county clerk from this small county. She's kind of what I would describe her as. she's just a normal Kentucky mom, you know, who's gone through hard times. I think she's divorced, and she decided to run for county clerk, and she won. And, when the gay marriage thing was, when they demanded that she start, issuing licenses that said male and, men. Men and men and women and women, she wouldn't do it. She would not do it. And she said, based on my personal convictions, I can't do it. And she said, my assistant can do it or someone else. But they went after her with a vengeance. Now it's gotten all the way to the Supreme Court, and Matt is representing her. And so it's possible that this could be, according to Matt, a case that could be the beginning of the, marriage. the decision by the Supreme Court on marriage. Gay marriage.

>> Tim Wildmon: Gotcha. Well, that's what. All right.

>> Sandy Rios: Long answer. Sorry.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's okay. So, folks, join Sandy. All you need to do. She has three, releases a week, typically of her podcast and the, website. To find it, go to afr.net click on podcast, afr.net click on podcast and you'll see the banner for Sandy Beals, 24 7. Then you get it, you know, delivered to you and, listen, you know, on demand, as they say. on demand. So.

>> Sandy Rios: Demand.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

Bruce Rather says he's optimistic about the FBI under new leadership

What is, how does Bruce see the FBI? Bruce Rather, your husband, for those who don't know, Most people do. But how does he see the FBI shaping up now under new leadership?

>> Sandy Rios: Well, I think he's pretty optimistic. not, not. Not without caution.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Sandy Rios: A Lot of things have to change before, but, you know, the thing they're going to be losing, like, by retirement. and also people that took that early retirement, I believe in this month, in September, so they're going to be very short. But I guess, our way of thinking about that is that the 5,000 that are leaving are probably really good riddance. Good riddance. And so I, know they need to. You know, it's hard to. They're trying to get new recruits now. And I just say to any of you young men listening to me, it's time to apply if you have the qualifications. And certainly they're. They're looking for good men, good men and women who are people of integrity and honesty. If you go to the FBI website, you can apply. And I just really recommend people consider doing that. You know, with, remember, with, the Border Patrol, they got like 200,000 responses, I think something like that. When they opened up, to hire more of them, and they just got more than they could, handle. So, it's time for all of us to pitch in. We, we are enjoying. God bless Donald Trump for the. He's given us hope. He's doing something great every single day. I've never seen anything like it. Doesn't mean he's perfect. I've never said that. But he's doing really great things. And we are basking in the relaxation and the freedom that we feel. But honestly, one man cannot do all of that, and he won't live forever. And I, I think all of us should be thinking about what we can do, not just. Not just relishing and enjoying sitting back and enjoying the sigh and the relief of what we had with Biden. But, we need to do something. So signing up for the FBI would be a good thing.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, President Trump, you know, appointed Cash Patel as the Director of the FBI and Pam Bondi as the Attorney General. And so he reset the whole atmosphere over there, for lack of a better word, in the Justice Department. And, you know, I just don't think he could have hired two better people for those positions. And as Sandy's saying, now's the time to seize the moment. And, they're hiring, so go to the FBI website. As Sandy said, you got to be qualified, but you can, you know, we need to, while we have the door of opportunity or window of opportunity, you know, these four years, who knows what happened after this? Ah, we need to staff, as it were, these federal government agencies with good, solid, patriotic conservatives and Tim.

>> Sandy Rios: You know, it's our audience. It's American Family Radio's audience. Those are the kind of people we must. there are so many of them in the White House already. I can't tell you how many good people are there. praying, working, just doing the best they can. But there's only a few of them, and so we have a vast audience. Some of them have grandsons and sons, older people listening, who might be qualified. It's not even just that. Justice Department needs great attorneys that can be trusted, and we need, you know, they've been hiring from Harvard and all the, Ivy League, institutions. We need some Midwesterners, Southerners, people that have good, solid degrees and great knowledge and, and integrity and love of country. So if you qualify for any of that, get. Get your kids, your sons, your grandsons, yourself. Get out there and apply.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. All right, Sandy, take care. Thank you for being on with us this morning.

>> Sandy Rios: Always fun. Love you guys.

>> Fred Jackson: Take care.

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Don Jr. allegedly called his father to make sure he was okay

So the other day, there was a rumor out, that got out that President Trump had died. As in died? Yes, over the weekend. and, so. So it. Was it Don Jr.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: What? Don Jr. He heard the rumor and what happened.

>> Chris Woodward: According to the Daily Mail and other news outlets, Don Trump Jr. Called his father on Labor Day weekend to make sure his father was alive amid death.

>> Tim Wildmon: Rumors that really happened.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes. I read it on the Internet. It's true.

>> Tim Wildmon: How do you. How do you do that? How do you have that conversation?

>> Chris Woodward: How do you even, like, get into it? Like, hey, dad. Yeah, what's up, Don Jr. I just kind of see if you were alive.

>> Tim Wildmon: Dad, are you dead? Yeah, M. If he answers yes, then what do you say?

>> Tim Wildmon: I know. What do you say? Well, sorry to hear that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Really? How did that happen?

>> Tim Wildmon: How'd that happen? So, I. You know, when I read this story. Is this a joke? But Don Jr called his dad to see if everything was okay.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: so, you know, it'd be Scary.

>> Fred Jackson: If the. If he called and went to voicemail.

>> Chris Woodward: Oh, you're right.

>> Fred Jackson: Boy, that'd be scary.

>> Tim Wildmon: You think. You think President Trump has voicemail?

>> Chris Woodward: M. This line is no longer in service. Leave me a big, beautiful message. I'm not available right now.

>> Tim Wildmon: And if. This is Rosie o'. Donnell. Oh, man.

>> Fred Jackson: I dare you.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't want to. I don't want to finish that sentence.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, actually, I do have. I do have a description of what the call supposedly went like. and I'll share this on our Today's issues.

>> Tim Wildmon: Are you serious now? You doing.

>> Chris Woodward: I'm dead serious. Dead serious. I'm reading from this Daily Mail article.

>> Tim Wildmon: Dead serious is not appropriate.

>> Chris Woodward: I see what you did there.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: it says, I called my father over the weekend and was like, hey, just want to make sure you're not dead. Don Jr. Said, I know my daughter's playing golf with you as we speak. You know, I keep reading about it on Twitter, so I just want to make sure. He didn't even know what I was talking about.

>> Fred Jackson: According to Don Jr. Oh, he was asked again on Tuesday at a news conference.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who was Trump.

>> Fred Jackson: Trump was asked about it, I think.

>> Tim Wildmon: about being dead.

>> Fred Jackson: About being. What do you think about those reports? He said, you know, I had an hour and a half interview with a, particular network I was owed. Went to one of my golf courses. So he was busy having fun.

>> Tim Wildmon: Genuinely is fake news.

>> Fred Jackson: Oh, yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So, anyway, who was it?

>> Chris Woodward: I tried to find this somebody. It's a famous quote, and it's being attributed to a bunch of people. I read the obituaries every day to see if I'm in it.

>> Tim Wildmon: like Will Rogers or Mark Twain or something.

>> Chris Woodward: According to the Internet, it's anybody from Carl Reiner to Benjamin Franklin and Clarence Darrow.

>> Fred Jackson: It goes back many years.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, I've heard it for years.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, and when you hit, 60, especially then, you start reading the obituary. Yeah. especially if you live in the same town you've grown up in now.

>> Chris Woodward: Yo.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right, look, when I get the newspaper, the obituary, I get a special edition. Obits are printed on the front page, so I don't even have to turn.

>> Tim Wildmon: You mean for your newspaper there back.

Tim Rantz: Go to your friends funerals because they're always crowded

>> Tim Wildmon: Home, the one here?

>> Tim Wildmon: Just.

>> Tim Wildmon: Just because you never know, Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: You never know your name's going to be in there.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. It just like, you know, we'll be. I'll be sitting there watching a football game and Allison to go, hey, do you know so and so. So and so died. And I'm going, I. No, I didn't know that, but thanks for telling me. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Got any other cheering here?

>> Tim Wildmon: The player of the pallbearers. Anyway, it's just funny how that happens in life. The older you get, the more you, you, you, you. Well, more. Longer, longer you give, the more, the more people do die. Yeah. Ah, that's.

>> Tim Wildmon: Go to Universals to see your friends, people, you know.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. I know.

>> Chris Woodward: To play off of what rages said one of Yogi Berra's famous sayings. This is one of my favorite. go to your friends funerals or they won't come to yours.

>> Tim Wildmon: But up much.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Your fancy. Oh, me? Yeah. Yogi Bear also said, we said this before, a lot of people know this Yogi Berra, but he was talking about the Yankees were, when he's playing ball, we're on the road playing in some city, and they go, hey, are you going to, this restaurant tonight? And he goes, no, nobody goes there anymore. They're always crowded.

>> Tim Wildmon: So true.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, nobody goes there anymore because they're always crowded.

On this day in 1970, a revival of the Price is Right began airing

all right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Next story. Chris?

>> Chris Woodward: Well, I just, we've got a few minutes left in the show, so I'm going to bring this up and then ask the panel for their favorite. apparently on this day in history, a revival of the Price is Right began airing with Bob Barker as host. It was a huge hit, becoming one of the longest running game shows on American television. So on this day in 1970, CBS brought back a revival of the Price is Right, and Bob was on there for a long time. What is your favorite game show?

>> Fred Jackson: I like the Price is Right when it was on. I got to interview Bob Barker. Really? Yeah, he, he went to school in Springfield, Missouri, which is where I went to Bible school. Met my wife there, and he went to school there in his early years, and he was back for a class reunion and got, to speak to him. Really nice guy. Really a nice guy.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, yeah, that was his personality. Very nice guy on. On tv. Bob Barker. Bob and the Price is Right. Was he known for anything else? Did he do a talk show or anything?

>> Fred Jackson: Or he might have had another game show prior to Price is Right. I'll look it up. I. It's been. Been in the game show business a long time.

>> Tim Wildmon: What about you? Bob Barker? man, yeah. Ah, he was around a long, long time. How long was he, with Price?

>> Chris Woodward: From 72 until the early 2000s, when Drew Carey took over.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so you want, you want my favorite?

>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm gonna name one you've never heard of.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: It was on CBS for less than a year in 1979-1980 called W H E W. And that's my favorite game show because back then I was pastoring a church in Downey, California, right out of seminary, and I went up and tried out for that game show. And on cbs. And because I was a pastor, that was kind of a, you know, unusual deal. And they put me on the game show. I played one game and won $26,200.

>> Chris Woodward: What?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Back when that was real money, that was more than three times what I was making as a pastor.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wow. When was this? Now.

>> Tim Wildmon: 1979.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: And it's on YouTube. The show is called Whew with an exclamation point if you search it. on YouTube.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: It would last about eight or nine months. Okay. And my game is, My game aired in November of 1979 and I won $26,000. It's always been my favorite game.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, $26,000 then would be equivalent to a hundred now, almost.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: What year was this?

>> Tim Wildmon: 1979.

>> Tim Wildmon: So you can watch this on YouTube.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. All the episodes are including my. My big game winner.

>> Tim Wildmon: What was the point of the game though? What was your.

>> Tim Wildmon: It is. It should have won the award for the dumbest game show.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: It was like. It was like the exact opposite of Jeopardy.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wow.

>> Tim Wildmon: Put it that way.

>> Chris Woodward: How much did you say you won?

>> Tim Wildmon: 26,000.

>> Chris Woodward: Okay, so 26,000 this time in 1979 is the equivalent of 122,975 dol. Dollars and ah. 81 cents.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that's. Man, so that's So wow. That's pretty impressive.

The Price is Right preceded Bob Barker; it lasted one year

I know my aunt, I've mentioned this before, but my aunt, she won I think car and some, She wants a. She won a bunch of stuff on the Price is Right.

>> Fred Jackson: Oh really?

>> Tim Wildmon: In, would have been either the 60s before Bob Barker. I think it was set in New York. Was it whoever was the, I've forgotten who was the host. They told me. But it was the Price is Right who preceded Bob Barker.

>> Chris Woodward: I'm looking it up.

>> Tim Wildmon: It wasn't Jack Parr.

>> Chris Woodward: Bill Cohen, big.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: We go way back, me and me.

>> Tim Wildmon: But he was, he was the host and I think it was set in New York. That's for it. Moved to Los Angeles and yeah. she. She won, The Price is Right.

>> Fred Jackson: Wow.

>> Tim Wildmon: The Price is Right. Got a car? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That would have been, you know, back. As I say that, I'm thinking the late 60s.

>> Fred Jackson: Wow. When that.

>> Tim Wildmon: When that happened. But I didn't know. Brother Ray, that's. I've known you a long time. Never knew you won.

>> Tim Wildmon: Never. Never.

>> Chris Woodward: That church. That tith check. Ray.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, I.

>> Tim Wildmon: So the name of the show was. What? How do you spell it if you know?

>> Tim Wildmon: Ew. It's like you're. You know, you're doing your forehead.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so it's the opposite of Jeopardy.

>> Tim Wildmon: It is a complete. You'll see.

>> Fred Jackson: And it lasted one year because Ray bankrupted.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: There you go. I broke the bank.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Okay. We will be back in five minutes with more of today's issues on American Family Radio. The views and opinions expressed in this.

>> Sandy Rios: Broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of.

>> Tim Wildmon: The American Family association or American Family Radio.

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