Today's Issues continues on AFR with Steve Paisley Jordal
>> Tim Wildmon: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your.
>> Steve Jordahl: Host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim Wildmon here with Ed Battagliano. And now, Steve Paisley Jordal.
>> Steve Jordahl: Hello, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: Good morning, Steve. Hi.
>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, I was talking about the snacks that our staff.
>> Steve Jordahl: I heard you talking about the snacks and when you first started, I got up from my desk because I'm about 50ft away and I went and got a,
>> Tim Wildmon: What'd you get?
>> Steve Jordahl: I got a, donut.
>> Ed Vitagliano: A cupcake.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, they're good.
>> Tim Wildmon: A cupcakes. Yeah, I have, I had two of the chocolate pretzels during the five minute break there. Because really when you sample you need more than one, right? Because one could be. Could be a fluke.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Could be a fluke.
>> Tim Wildmon: It could be a fluke. So you want to make sure that what you're tasting is consistent. So you go for the second one. So I did that and they are excellent. Did you say this from your family, Ed?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, my granddaughter turns 2. They had the party on Saturday.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And it bunch of family over. They made pancakes at 10am they had cupcakes. They had these pretzels with. Is that chocolate?
>> Tim Wildmon: Chocolate, Chocolate. Chocolate covered pretzels. white chocolate.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The cupcakes were made by this, young lady who used, to go to our church. May still go in the later service. Heather, Grieves. She's. She is amazing. So I had the cupcake. I had one cupcake on Saturday, but they had all these leftovers. So my son and daughter in law sent them up here.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is a long answer to my. All I said was so your family brought up. Can you give me the history behind that?
>> Ed Vitagliano: And this young lady, Heather Greaves,
>> Tim Wildmon: He was born in what year, Ed? Anyway, those chocolate covered pretzels, they're worth.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I avoided those Saturday, but now I'm not anymore.
>> Tim Wildmon: Two's enough.
>> Steve Jordahl: I'll just say that two is also a fairly small sample size. You know, if you're gonna do a poll on it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, you guys keep telling yourselves that.
What used to be called the Boy Scouts now allows girls in
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so what do you got for us there, brother Steve?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, let's talk about the Boy Scouts or what used to be the Boy Scouts are now Scouting usa.
>> Tim Wildmon: And why'd they change their name?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, because boy, is so restrictive. You know, they let girls in and who's to say what a definition of a boy is? Anyway, it could be Boy Scouts of America.
>> Tim Wildmon: Did. They did do that, didn't they?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, they did. They changed their name. They changed their name.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They angered the Girl Scouts because what used to be called the Boy Scouts now allows girls in. And the Girl Scouts are going, hey, that's what, that's our gig.
>> Tim Wildmon: The Boy Scouts of America also changed. Well, they changed their name because they wanted to get away from the boys. Yeah, part of this. So it's Scouting usa, right?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And then they also changed their policy to allow open homosexuals to be scoutmasters.
>> Steve Jordahl: They did that a while back.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, they did that early 2000s, 10.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or 15 years ago. So some people would say, ah, they went woke the Boy Scouts of America. Did they change their name? They're changing their policies to reflect a more modern approach to human sexuality.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I wouldn't be surprised someday to see what used to be known as the Boy Scouts is currently the Girl Scouts. To see them join up, become one scouting organization, it'd be like Ichabod marrying Jezebel. But it'd be a, you know, they'd combine the two, organizations that have, have gone over to the dark side.
>> Steve Jordahl: Ichabod, Mary, Jezebel. There's. Their Twitter name would be Isabel.
Defense Department is cutting ties with the Boy Scouts of America
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so what, so what? Why are they in the news?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, they're in the news because Secretary of Defense or Secretary of War Pete Hegseth has decided to cut down ties that the Defense Department is cutting ties with Scouting. There is a law on the books that gives Boy Scouts of America access to military bases and facilities and the use of their vehicles at the discretion of the Department of Defense. Well, our Secretary of War is saying we no longer want this, affiliation. You know, Secretary Hegseth has been kind of cleansing, the military of al woke as well. And so this is the next logical step.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I guess you can't get any more woke than Scouting USA or the Girl Scouts. Girl Scouts went woke and pro homosexual. Even before, the Boy Scouts, this was back in the mid to late.
>> Tim Wildmon: 90s, the part that I've never quite understood. And I know that the Scouting usa. Is that what they call themselves, Scouting America? Scouting America has not had to explain this part of it, but follow me here on the logic. the, Girl Scouts of America, for example, would they allow a male to be a scout? no. Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't think they've. Well, anymore. I don't know that that's been challenged since we don't know what the definition of man and woman are anymore in this kind of mixed up culture that we're in.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well they used to not. Both organizations used to not allow a person of the opposite sex to be over. Now we did have den mothers. I remember I was in the Cub Scouts of America, but we had den mothers. But that was before you reach puberty.
>> Steve Jordahl: Those Cub Scouts.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Cub Scouts. Is that what, what did I say? That's dead mothers.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I had a dead mother.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but once you read, once you reach Boy Scouts, we blow in above Boy Scouts. Then it was males.
>> Steve Jordahl: You needed role models. They wanted to have positive role models for the boys of
>> Ed Vitagliano: And plus they did camping trips and stuff.
>> Tim Wildmon: But would they let a male be in charge of Girl scouts that are 14, 15 years old?
>> Steve Jordahl: I doubt it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Why?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, you don't. I can't argue on their behalf. Their, their arguments would be, would be illogical given where.
>> Tim Wildmon: Here's my argument and that we'll just, we won't explore this any longer is I think the wisdom in a policy like that would be you don't want to allow somebody who is an adult who is sexually attracted to a particular, to the opposite sex to be in charge of. You don't want, you don't want a 38 year old man being over a group of 14, 15 year old girls.
>> Steve Jordahl: That would be very bad. It could end very badly.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think that would be the reasoning for it. I'm not saying somebody who does that to pervert because they're, they may be. Because you have that kind of thing in sports all the time. I mean coaches are you have men coaching girls junior high and high school basketball teams. You don't think, well, they're a pervert for that reason, you know what I'm saying? So that's not necessary. But, but they do have policies. They did have policies at least in one time on both of these organizations where you couldn't. So why would you allow a man who sexually attracted to males to be over to be over young men? You see what I'm saying?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Bingo.
>> Steve Jordahl: There are two worlds anymore. There's the world that we all live in, which is logical. There are two genders and you want to protect the spaces of women and girls from men, which is. And then there's the world that has become kind of the woke world that many people want to live in where there's multiple genders and they don't know the difference between men and women and everything. And I don't know that the issue of a male leader in a Girl Scout troop has been challenged or has been brought up.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't even know if it's an issue anymore.
>> Steve Jordahl: It might not be an issue. I don't know. again, I haven't seen it in the news. All I'm seeing is that this story particularly is that the Boy Scouts, have lost their way when it comes to good, male role modeling. And the military no longer wants to.
>> Tim Wildmon: I remember I went on CNN or I think it was 20 years ago or so. And I better be careful about the organization was which one of them started going woke early. Was the Girl Scouts?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Girls?
>> Tim Wildmon: No, the mentoring, the mentoring groups. Was it Boys and Girls Club?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh yeah. Boys and Girls Club of America. Was that the one they, they did?
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So I remember being on, I was on a CNN program, we were talking about this because they were, they were they, they said that they were going to allow open homosexuals to be mentors to to the kids in the program. And I thought well. And at the same time they had a policy that forbade, if that's the right word for forbade, a male being a mentor for a young girl. And the policy was you don't put a male as a mentor for a young girl.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And everyone knows why and just explain.
>> Tim Wildmon: So I asked the question on CNN at the time. Why is that just for the. You say everybod. Because you don't want the sexual attraction dynamic to enter into a mentorship. Right. Or the temptation for it to. So you keep them separate. Women, women mentor girls, mentor boys. Right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Now that doesn't mean you can't have. But, but so why. So I said, I asked the question, if the reason is to prevent the sexual attraction dynamic from entering into a mentorship, why would you want to put somebody who is a homosexual who is attracted to the same sex as a mentor over.
Why would you want to put a homosexual man who's 35 in mentorship program over an 11 year old boy
Why would you want to put a homosexual man who's 35 in a mentorship program over an 11 year old boy? Wouldn't the same principle. But you see what I'm saying.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Absolutely.
>> Tim Wildmon: And they had no answer for me.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They had no answer, Because everyone knows why they, their policy was you don't have even a 24 year old male, you don't have the mentoring a 13 or 14 year old girl. Everyone knows, everyone knows why. And we.
>> Tim Wildmon: And they knew you wouldn't allow that at church. No. Or you wouldn't allow that at
>> Ed Vitagliano: Anyway, they knew why and I bet they didn't say why or they try to make it.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, they didn't. They avoided it all together. Because it's an unanswerable question. Now, the answer that, that would be consistent would go, against, their new policy, their non discriminatory policy.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yep.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
Man from Yorkshire, England, arrested for posting offensive pictures on social media
All right. You're listening to today's issues on afr. Go ahead, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: I want to talk a little gun control here. If we don't, and how bad it's getting. Not just here, but it's getting very bad in England. a man from Yorkshire, England, was visiting here in the United States. His name was John Richelieu Booth. And he had some friends here. He was visiting in Florida, and he, decided to. They took him out, and they took him out to the range. You know, my first weekend here in Mississippi, when I first moved here, the people from the church that I visited invited me out, and the first thing they did was open up the back of a pickup truck and had an arsenal of all kinds of guns and pistols. I mean, they're real proud down here. We're real proud of our ability to handled guns. And so they had this Mr. Richelieu out, and he has a picture of himself that he posted, to social media of him holding his shotgun. You could kind of tell by the picture that he's not used to holding shotgun. But, he posted it upon arrival back in the uk. The, police showed up at his door and they arrested Mr. Richelieu, Booth. And they said that he, was. He was charged with offensive posts allegations, of possessing a firearm with intent to cause fear or violence. He was said he was told to be careful what he says online because he needs to understand how it makes people feel. That's what England is doing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He was arrested for something he did in the United States.
>> Steve Jordahl: Now, they tried to kind of, make.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's just a picture of him at a shooting range.
>> Steve Jordahl: Picture of him holding a shotgun.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Not even like a.
>> Tim Wildmon: And he was a. He was arrested.
>> Steve Jordahl: He was. He was arrested. Held in. In. He was held overnight.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wow. So can they. Can they arrest an American citizen for the same reason?
>> Steve Jordahl: Don't. I don't know. I know. I don't know. You would be subject to the same laws.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what I'm saying.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. I suppose they could if you posted pictures of firearms. over there.
>> Tim Wildmon: Man, you talk about going woke. That's w. That's a woke with caps, huh?
>> Steve Jordahl: It is.
Man injured when handgun in oven accidentally goes off; police looking for suspect
I have another story here that I'd like to bring up. We can, in conjunction. Not Everybody in the U.S. knows how to handle firearms. here in the U.S. Des Moines, Iowa, Dateline Des Moines, Iowa. The police detectives are looking for. Asking the public's help in locating a man wanting for gun. Wanted for gun and drug charges. His name is Damien Buckner. He's 36 years old, and, he's missing. He was, being, charged with illegal possession of, drugs, and he had handguns, and I believe he was not able. Was not legally able to own the handguns. He hid the handguns in his oven and forgot that he put them there and then started heating up the oven.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You mean loaded?
>> Steve Jordahl: Loaded. And one. One of the, guns went off and it injured him.
>> Tim Wildmon: That funny, Steve?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well.
>> Tim Wildmon: Man got injured.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, I know, huh?
>> Tim Wildmon: you're laughing.
>> Steve Jordahl: I am.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, not. Not at that. Obviously, a lot of something else funny.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, right. Injured when a handgun stored in an oven fired multiple rounds off as the oven was heating up.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. He wasn't seriously hurt.
>> Steve Jordahl: He was not seriously hurt. All right, but, That's.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's, You. That's just, You don't go live that one down for a while. You think, hey, that's the guy who.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You remember. Oh, what's it. What was his name? What was this guy's name, Steve?
>> Steve Jordahl: The guy's name was, Damien Buckner.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, you remember old Buckner. Remember? He.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He. He.
>> Tim Wildmon: Where are your guns, Damien? It's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He wasn't all too bright, was he?
>> Tim Wildmon: Where'd you hide your guns today? Microwave.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Dishwasher, maybe?
>> Steve Jordahl: Microwave, all right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Maybe he's learned his lesson right there. Let's hope so, huh?
Tim Ferriss: Many say C.C. Winans' national anthem is best ever
All right, next, story.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, Tim, you said. I wanted, to investigate this. You sent around a story a, little after Thanksgiving about the, national anthem at one of the Thanksgiving Day, NFL games sung by C.C.
>> Tim Wildmon: Winans, the legendary gospel singer.
>> Steve Jordahl: Legendary gospel singer.
>> Tim Wildmon: It was Detroit, Lions football, game.
>> Steve Jordahl: And, the, article said that many people saying it's the best ever national anthem. I have a couple nominations of my own that, I would like to put before y'. All. But let me play the last 20 seconds or so of CC's national anthem at this game so you can kind of get an idea of how this sounded.
>> Tim Wildmon: Cut 12 O the land of the free.
>> Steve Jordahl: And the home of the brave.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's not bad.
>> Steve Jordahl: No, here's what I respect. I mean, it was respectful. It was,
>> Tim Wildmon: Ed said that in.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I said that in Jeff.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, he meant it. Excellent.
>> Ed Vitagliano: She. That's. She's amazing.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, she is amazing. And it was. It was well done.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: The best ever. There are a couple national, anthems that get. Get mentioned often when they say the best ever. My. One of my favorites, though, is by the Gaither Vocal Band. Have you guys ever heard the National Anthem by the Gator Vocal Band at a ball game?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't think so.
>> Steve Jordahl: They've done it at several ball games. But let me look. This is their.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is four versus one.
>> Steve Jordahl: It is. That's. That's true. It's not that. It may be not a fair fight, but this is the last 20 seconds of their national anthem. Cut 13. For the land of the free. And the home of the brave.
>> Tim Wildmon: Sound like a barbershop quartet there. Quartet there.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, it's not barbershop chords, but that is, I think, one of the best. The whole thing is inspirational.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Didn't Whitney Houston also have one that was considered in the.
>> Steve Jordahl: This is the other one that always gets mentioned. And I'll put. We'll play this. This is the 30 seconds. Now, there is some context that Whitney Houston. This is at the super bowl, and it was at the super bowl, right after we had started the Gulf War operation. there was a lot of patriotism going around, and Whitney Houston was asked to sing the national anthem. She had a full orchestra behind her at the time. And this is what the last 20/2 of her national anthem sounded like. Cut 14.
>> Ed Vitagliano: M. It's hard to beat that.
>> Tim Wildmon: let me ask you this.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I love her voice.
>> Tim Wildmon: How does. That was Whitney Houston. That. That's you. You're born with that, right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. You might have some voice lessons, some voice lessons along the way, but it's. It's like being Michael Jordan or Patrick.
>> Tim Wildmon: You can either jump that high or you can't. Yes, you can either reach that octave.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: it's not just the range with her. It's the tone. And you're born with the tone. Now, the best singers will have that gift, and then they'll. They will also leverage it as much best they can with the best training they can get. I didn't know Whitney Houston. Yeah, but.
>> Tim Wildmon: But I, you know, you reach a point where you either you're going to go on with your career.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right. Either. When you're called into the ministry, Tim, you got to leave choices. You got to leave those things behind.
I would rank those in this order: Whitney Houston, Gaithers and others
>> Steve Jordahl: So anyway, so I would rank. I would rank those in this order. The. The best ever that I've heard is the Whitney Houston. And I would put the Gaithers in just of those three ahead of. Of Cece. Now, Cece was pretty good.
>> Tim Wildmon: of course, those are just three of thousands of renditions of the national, anthem that have been played over the decades.
>> Steve Jordahl: I was privileged to sing the national anthem sporting events.
>> Tim Wildmon: were you?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, several times for the Colorado, Springs Sky Sox. But I also was, won a contest and was able to sing a national anthem at the Portland Trailblazers.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No kidding.
>> Tim Wildmon: You sang at an NBA game?
>> Steve Jordahl: An NBA game.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's impressive. I'm giving you a fist bump, man. Now you're, you're a trained singer. I, I, so I, I would defer to you in terms of ability and all those kind. I don't even know what the. I wouldn't have put, I would have put, I would have put Whitney Houston. I like Cece Winans. I'm not a big barbershop quartet kind of guy, so that's just personal taste. I would have put the gate.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was four on one though.
>> Steve Jordahl: I just need to be, in the interest of accuracy, I have to say that's not barbershop quartet.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was Tim's description.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That was, that was Tim Barbershop quartet. I'm going with the president of the.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ministry, but they did sound like a barbershop quartet.
>> Steve Jordahl: The barbershop is, is characterized by certain chords that chord, structures that were not in that particular. That was, I would case. That's closer to a Southern gospel.
>> Tim Wildmon: He's trying to quartet,
>> Steve Jordahl: Version.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm confused.
>> Tim Wildmon: no.
I have gotten to the point where I can't stand leftist actors
Okay, so, did you know a little bit of trivia here, that our own Sandy Rios.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes, yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Once sang the national anthem for the Chicago Bears.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I did not know that.
>> Steve Jordahl: I didn't know.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I knew she was a singer. She put out albums and NFL.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, she was, yeah. yeah. She's an excellent singer.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean multi talented.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: I didn't have, I couldn't find her version. I might have included it in the in the, in the contest.
>> Tim Wildmon: Sandy, Sandy. I have couple of her albums. you know, they were a couple decades ago, three decades ago. But she very much sounded like Barbra Streisand. in her.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's high praise.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know.
>> Steve Jordahl: High praise and without the politics.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh yeah, even better. Oh no, Sandy's. No, they're worlds apart on politics. I'm just saying her voice sounded a lot like.
>> Steve Jordahl: Sandy is one of my, I mean, Barbara Streisand was one of my favorite singers.
>> Tim Wildmon: Take the politics out of it.
>> Steve Jordahl: You take the politics out of it. She has.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Am I, am I alone here in that? I have gotten to increasingly to the point where I can't stand leftist actors to the extent that I just won't watch. I just can't watch their stuff. I mean, I can't have anybody off the top of my head.
>> Tim Wildmon: Robert De Niro.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I'm not gonna watch Robert De Niro. I mean, it's a shame because some of these people are phenomenal actors and actresses, but all I see when I see them is what they have said. And they hate us. They. Many of them hate God. and it never used to be that way. I used to be able to say, okay, well, they believe differently.
>> Tim Wildmon: But, yeah, there's a difference between, It depends on the degree of hostility that they have expressed towards God or Christians. I'm the same way. But it depends on the. It depends on. You're right. Some of the.
>> Steve Jordahl: I might, avoid their newer stuff out of protest. But, he was in Godfather, wasn't he?
>> Tim Wildmon: Robert De Niro. Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Robert Duvall.
>> Steve Jordahl: And yeah, by the time. Duvall actually is a. Has been fairly conservative in politics, but by the time you get to halfway through the movie, I have forgotten. It's such a good movie. I have forgotten about their politics.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: Newer movies, maybe not.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
All right, we're out of time. Thanks to Fred Jackson for doing the video
All right, we're out of time. thank you, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: My pleasure.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thanks to Fred Jackson. Brent Creeley. Our producer, Ed Battaliano, brought the sweets.
>> Ed Vitagliano: For members of my family of la familia. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is there anybody else on the show today?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Did you say Brent? Did you get cold?
>> Tim Wildmon: I think Brent.
>> Ed Vitagliano: How about Cole? Cole, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thank Cole, too, for doing the video. All right, we'll see you tomorrow, everybody. Have a great afternoon. Keep listening to afar.
