55% of American adults say assassinating Donald Trump would be justified

>> Ed Vitagliano: In a recent survey of 1,200 left of center American adults, 55% responded that assassinating Donald Trump could be justified. We're swimming in shark infested cultural waters. Some are suffering from Christianophobia. Jesus said, if they persecuted me, they'll also persecute you. Please give today to help AFA keep equipping you and others to stand for Christ. Help us shine his light into our dark culture.

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>> Chris Woodward: Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning everybody and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Today's Tuesday, July 22, 2025. Thanks for listening to AFR. Joining me in studio is Ed Battagliano. Good morning, Brother Ed.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Good morning, Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wesley Wildmon. Good morning.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Howdy.

>> Tim Wildmon: And Christopher Woodward.

>> Chris Woodward: Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: Good morning, brother Chris.

>> Wesley Wildmon: See, the only one that calls you Christopher.

>> Chris Woodward: That and my mom and, the federal government and letters.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, federal government.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I know. We all get four we call by our formal names.

>> Chris Woodward: my wife calls me Christopher every once in a while.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: When you're in trouble.

>> Chris Woodward: Usually.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

Ray Pritchard is traveling, doing Bible teaching on the side

All right, so, Fred's out and well, Fred's not supposed to be on. Raise out.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Do we know where Ray is? Where in the world is Ray Pritchard? Anybody know?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Traveling.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, he's traveling somewhere. Teaching the Bible.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Doing that little Bible teaching thing he does, you know, on the side.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, you're on your own, Ed.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I always tease Ray when he comes, when he's on. I'll say. So when are you doing your little Bible teaching thing, Ray? Because that's really what he's called to do.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Hey, the places though that he gets to go in the pictures that I've seen of places he's been, I'll oftentimes when he's on the radio, he'll mention it and I'll look it up online. And they are some pretty gorgeous places.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, he does that on purpose.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Brother Ray's not gonna pick North Dakota. He's gonna, he's gonna decline. I respectfully decline. I can't be with you. I don't feel led in, North Dakota in January. My bike's gonna be out there in that.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So it's very selective.

>> Tim Wildmon: So he goes to Cannon Beach, Oregon, Florida in the winter. It's it upstate New York. And I, I'm just, we're just teasing folks Ray Pritchard is a, is a excellent, Bible teacher. Much in demand.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: And also, these, places he goes are usually camps or campground meetings type things, and so they are at beautiful destinations.

>> Ed Vitagliano: and he goes to, Does he go to Korea? Where, where is it? Over in the Pacific.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wesley went with him to China.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So he. And those are long flights. That's not a fun little trip to Disney World. Yeah, it's not a junket.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's a lot of the material that he has over the last decade has been translated into other languages.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: and I'm not just talking about audio, which is fairly easy to do nowadays, but even in print, a lot of his stuff has been translated in a different language.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right, right. Bryce. Humble guy. He did his, his ministries worldwide.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Absolutely.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So, anyway, keep believing dot com.

>> Tim Wildmon: Keep believing dot com. If you want to read one book by Ray Pritchard. he has a lot of excellent, books and news and I mean, information on the Bible and Bible books, of the Bible that he teaches on. But, Anchor, for the Soul is what he's most well known for.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Over a million copies in print.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Wow.

>> Tim Wildmon: Anchor for the Soul. It's an excellent, book. All right, Chris, what do you got for us, my friend?

Hunter Biden said President Biden was on Ambien during debate last year

>> Chris Woodward: Well, I want to begin with, some Hunter Biden news.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, good. that's what I've been looking for.

>> Chris Woodward: Well, I'm gonna bring this up because I had to go to great lengths to get a clean audio from what I'm about to play here, because Hunter, in the last day or so, went on about a three hour rant, okay. in which he used a lot of profanity to blast Democrats, like George Clooney, the actor who wanted Joe Biden, to step out of the race last year based on his mental, faculties. He, also ripped members of the Democratic Party in general for, forcing his dad out. All these kinds of things.

>> Tim Wildmon: Why the anger, Chris?

>> Chris Woodward: I think he's mad that, the big guy is not in office anymore for him to make money off of. That's one answer possibly, to your question. but here is a bit of clean audio because this is a family friendly show. I am a father of two children, so I understand the concerns.

>> Tim Wildmon: Some Christian radio network we are. We're not in there. And profane.

>> Chris Woodward: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: quotes here.

>> Chris Woodward: Right. So I've got clean audio. It's about 15 seconds of Hunter, talking to a podcaster about, the debacle that was the debate between his dad, President Joe Biden, and former President Donald Trump last year. Clip 1 I'll tell you what.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I know exactly what happened in that debate.

>> Tim Wildmon: He flew around the world, basically,

>> Frank Gaffney: The mileage that he could have flown around the world three times.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, he's 81 years years old.

>> Frank Gaffney: He's tired, give him Ambien to be able to sleep. He gets up on the stage and.

>> Tim Wildmon: He looks like he's a deer in the headlights.

>> Chris Woodward: Now, again, he went on to just use a lot of profanity and rant about all kinds of things and all kinds of people, including the Democratic Party, and what it's done to itself. And that led Fox this morning to truck out various people to respond to this. Here is a columnist and Fox News contributor by the name of Selena Zito, who said Hunter is not helping democrats here.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Clip 2 yeah, for the guy who's.

>> Chris Woodward: Supposed to answer the 3:00am phone call, bewildering, right?

>> Tim Wildmon: I can't imagine a doctor prescribing that to a president. And, and I can't imagine that this has been a secret. So this again is part of this sort of rehearsed event, to try to save the Biden legacy.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: And, and you know, there's two reactions out there. I was out in, talking with people when this dropped and, you know, you have Democrats are like, oh, please, please go away.

>> Frank Gaffney: We are never going to recover from this.

>> Tim Wildmon: It just goes on and on and on. Okay, so that was the Hunter Biden quote. He's talking about his dad, then President Biden.

>> Chris Woodward: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: And that disastrous, first debate that he had with President, now President Trump that we all saw and that, that caused the Democrats to, to kick him out. Right? Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's a fair assessment of what they did.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. So, he said that, that President Biden was on Ambien. Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That was one of his excuses for how he performed.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's a good excuse.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's. You heard that, right?

>> Tim Wildmon: I am being. Is a narcotic. Not.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't.

>> Chris Woodward: It's.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I've heard of it and people I've known a couple people who have taken it and it said it, it messed with their head.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's what this is what I'm getting at.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So you have a, it's mostly.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Prescribed, to my knowledge, of helping people sleep.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: People who can't sleep, they take. Some people take Ambien, but you have to get it from a doctor prescription.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: This isn't something you Go down to Walgreens and get off.

>> Wesley Wildmon: It's not like Advil or. It's not like, There's, There, There's another, chewable there.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Melatonin.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Melatonin, yeah. Yeah. It's not like that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. I thought that was a skin color thing.

>> Chris Woodward: That's melanin.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Melanin.

>> Wesley Wildmon: The melanin.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: I got my males mixed.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, that's why I didn't make it in medical school, and that's.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's why you. You got off the Ambien, too.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. A combination of both. Did not.

>> Tim Wildmon: Thankfully, I haven't need Ambien.

Hunter Biden says President Trump should not rely on Ambien for sleep

Go to sleep quite well on my own, thank you. But anyway, here's the point. That what Hunter Biden is trying to use as an excuse for his dad is also the very reason why he shouldn't be president, United States. Because what he's describing, he's saying, well, he's 80. What do you expect? What do you expect? He's 81. They got him flying around the world. Well, okay, that's what the president does.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: And they got him on Ambien. So what do you expect, people. We're going like that. you just have all the reasons why.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Made the point.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Why he shouldn't be president of the United States. And, back to the ambient point. The. The, My Allison, my wife took that once, and she said she'll never take it again because the way it affected her body and her brain, now, I'm sure it's ineffective. I know people also who've taken it, and they say, well, I'm glad I have it, because I can't sleep without it. You know what I'm saying? So I understand that side of it, too. But the president, United States should not be, dependent on Ambien to go to sleep because, it affects you.

>> Wesley Wildmon: With the point that they were making there in the interview is that they do have to take the 3am calls.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Wesley Wildmon: There are things that do happen in the middle of the night, and if you are completely knocked out.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, you're knocked out. All right. So I don't know. Any other medical discussion?

>> Wesley Wildmon: No, I just. I just wish we had at least, This is my. I'll take responsibility, but I should have, We should have drug up a portion of the clip of the debate somewhere in there to provide some humor, because that was quite funny.

>> Chris Woodward: Oh.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, the debate.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, that.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. And then Trump's like, I don't know what he said, and I don't think.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That'S just for us only, but look at this image right there alone.

>> Tim Wildmon: What was one of the, that was.

>> Ed Vitagliano: One of the best debate lines I've ever heard. Yeah, which one? President Trump. Well then. Well, he was president, 45 Trump. He Biden said something and just nobody understood. He trailed off. And then they asked President Trump they'd like to respond. And he said, I don't even know what he just said there. I don't think even he knows. I mean that was a damaging blow.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, that was good. Okay, now we're replaying it for the audience.

>> Chris Woodward: There was a clip, I think it was Jake Tapper, recalling that moment, had said somebody text him during that right after that exchange and said, Joe Biden just lost the presidency.

>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, we've got it.

>> Wesley Wildmon: We do. Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Brent Creely, our producer, our excellent producer.

>> Tim Wildmon: This is, this is found. This, this is from when now this.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Is the debate summer about a year ago. Yeah, that's right. It was Wells in June.

>> Tim Wildmon: Last June. Yeah, last June. This is one of So this was probably, Joe Biden's, one of his greatest hits.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

Hunter Biden says Trump beat Medicare to death in interview

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. With Trump, trillion dollar tax cut benefited the very wealthy.

>> Wesley Wildmon: What I'm going to do is fix the tax system.

>> Tim Wildmon: For example, we have a thousand trillionaires in America, I mean billionaires in America. And what's happening, they're in a situation where they in fact pay 8.2% in taxes. If they just paid 24%, 25%, either one of those numbers, they'd raised $500 million billion dollars, I should say in a 10 year period, we'd be able to wipe out his debt. We'd be able to help make sure that all those things we need to do, childcare, elder care, making sure that we continue to suppress, strengthen our health care system, making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person, eligible for.

>> Wesley Wildmon: What I'm able to do with the.

>> Tim Wildmon: with the COVID Excuse me, with dealing, with everything we have to do. Look, if we finally beat Medicare, okay, that's where it's going pretty strong there.

>> Wesley Wildmon: For about 30 seconds.

>> Chris Woodward: I understood the beginning.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It finally beat Medicare.

>> Wesley Wildmon: But that, that's, that okay. That I was going to share.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ohio State beat Notre Dame. Yeah, we beat Medicare. Go ahead. I'm m sorry.

>> Wesley Wildmon: It is fine. My, my favorite. Yours was in the top three. But my favorite is when he said Trump said, yeah, you beat Medicare to death. Yeah, that was my number one.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Because that would come with this.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: You wonder why we're talking about this again. Hunter Biden had a big interview.

>> Chris Woodward: He did.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's all over the news.

>> Chris Woodward: If you, if, if listeners have not heard it yet, you don't need to, it's very, it's R rated. Would be conservative.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: He's, the only thing I was going to say about the Hunter Biden, rant is that he, he's obviously bitter that his father was, yes. Was removed basically by force because he, Joe, Biden was. Now I'm starting to sound like him. Joe B. Was told, I think basically, that donors aren't going to give you money if you stay in the race. And Hunter Biden thinks it was that betrayal that kept his father out of the White House and reelect for reelection rather than Joe Biden's performance. And I think Hunter Biden for a number of reasons is clearly delusional.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so Wesley, go ahead.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I was just going to say we do forget though. I understand the unfortunate dilemma in the Democrat Party and I understand you feel for him. And they, and they did. And I understand why they booted him. However, I can see why some people would like him, like even if he wasn't his son, if you were a Democrat, you voted for him. They, they had an election. They, they, they had, candidates and they.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, listen, fellas, when you got a juggernaut like Kamala Harris.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who's sitting on the bench. Sitting on the bench ready to come into the game like Tom Brady, a.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Top draft pick that hasn't had a chance.

>> Tim Wildmon: You can't leave her on the bench for a guy who can't even, who thinks he beat Medicaid.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Medicare.

>> Tim Wildmon: Medicare, that too. I mean, I understand why, why they did what they did, the Democrats.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I just wanted to take us back in time. Yeah. And have a little fun.

Former Obama adviser Rahm Emanuel spoke with Megyn Kelly about transgender issues

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. You're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio. There's an interview, Tim, Ed Wesley and Chris. Chris, what's next?

>> Chris Woodward: Story in other news involving the Democratic Party, former Congressman and Obama adviser and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel sat down for a lengthy discussion with Megyn Kelly to talk about a number of issues including so called transgender issues. And Emanuel's comments are counter to what we're hearing from a lot of, high profile Democrats today. Here is kind of a montage of various things that Rahm Emanuel had to say to Megyn Kelly and her questions to him. Clip 7 Do you believe boys should be able to play in girls sports?

>> Ed Vitagliano: No. Do you believe that?

>> Frank Gaffney: Is this the round robin?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, this will do. And then we move back.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Do you believe that kids under the.

>> Chris Woodward: Age of 18 should be able to.

>> Tim Wildmon: Be put on puberty blockers and cross sex hormones?

>> Frank Gaffney: I think parents have to make that decision themselves. I think that is too. A child is too young at 18 to make that decision has to be made with a family. And that choice, I think before somebody makes a life decision, they have to think twice about that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ken, should we be putting men in female prisons? Men claiming they're women? No. And.

>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, here's my last one for you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Can a man become a woman?

>> Frank Gaffney: Can a man become a woman? not. No.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Thank you. That's so easy. Why don't more people in your party just say that?

>> Frank Gaffney: Because I'm now going to go into a witness protection plan.

>> Tim Wildmon: That was. That was Rahm Emanuel. everybody. Most people remember him. He was, Obama's, chief of staff.

>> Chris Woodward: He was never let a crisis go to waste. That goes back to Ron Emmanuel.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. But that was. That was refreshingly honest there. I guess Megy Kelly's almost surprised by his answer.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and he says the quiet part out loud that where his party is.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Just saying something so obviously true.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Puts him in such hot water that he's likening it to having to go into witness protection. If you. If you tell the truth about the mob, that's when you go into witness protection.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I just like to point out that, you know, he still is a Democrat to a degree when he. He goes, no, no.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: He wanted.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is there anything I could say to escape the question about can a man become a woman? And he goes, no.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So there is anything there.

>> Chris Woodward: You know, for our younger listeners, that is that what his comments there and his mindset are what Democrats were not that long ago. Like, there was a time in the 90s where Democrats were kind of like Rahm Emanuel right there. You know, Bill Clinton.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Chris Woodward: Was famous for saying he wanted abortion to be safe, legal, and rare. And now we're at a point where they're telling people to shout their abortion like, they're not the pro choice party anymore. They're the pro abortion party and the pro transgender party, whereas his comments were what they used to be.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And there. And there's no coming away from it.

>> Wesley Wildmon: No.

>> Ed Vitagliano: There's no way for the Democratic Party to move back to the middle. I say to the middle. I'm not saying you compromise on the issue of abortion. Please understand me. I'm just Saying, moving to a more moderate position on these two major social issues. Anybody? This is why Rahm Emanuels says he has to go into witness protection. He, he could politically be cooked.

>> Chris Woodward: Oh, yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: for just saying these things out loud by the more radicalized parts of the base that are threatening to seize control of the whole party. Apparatus for the Democrats.

I managed to work the word apparatus on the fly right there on the spot

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, next story.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I managed to work the word apparatus.

>> Tim Wildmon: I noticed that. I noticed it. An apparatus. Spell it in.

>> Ed Vitagliano: A P, P, P, A P, P A R A T U S. Apparatus.

>> Chris Woodward: U R C O, R, R E C, T.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Thank you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, that was good. On the fly right there on the spot. Apparatus. Go ahead, Chris.

Zoran Mamdani is running for New York City mayor

>> Chris Woodward: meanwhile, this Mamdani, guy, continues to make headlines. Mamdani is the socialist or communist that's running for mayor of New York City.

>> Tim Wildmon: Just got one name like share.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, he's up there.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Chris Woodward: Well, that's pretty much Zoran Mamdani.

>> Tim Wildmon: well, my name's Zoran. I want it used.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's fair.

>> Tim Wildmon: So Zoran. Mom. Mom.

>> Chris Woodward: Mamdani.

>> Tim Wildmon: Zoran Momdani. and that's not one of the, like superheroes. Superheroes. That's not Marvel or DC Comics or.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The kind, of the Masked Avenger who righted wrongs in Mexico.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And we also.

>> Chris Woodward: With a Z, the Spanish for fox, by the way.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And also we need to really do include this. We often use the word, hey, this person is a communist. Because we prescribe that to them based on their actions. No, he's a self identified communist. He is.

>> Tim Wildmon: So he's, he's a, he's the mayoral, Democrat. Mayoral candidate in New York City.

>> Chris Woodward: Right. And he is, Zoran. His, his policies are very communist or socialist in nature. and I've got some audio here. Various people, including some Democrats are concerned about Mamdani, possibly becoming the next mayor of New York City. Here is New Jersey Democratic Representative Josh Gottheimer sharing a few thoughts about Mamdani. Clip 5.

>> Frank Gaffney: I think his policies do not comport with our party.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Frank Gaffney: He wants to not only increase taxes, and he's refused to condemn, anti Semitic phrases like globalizing intifada. I think what we need in the Democratic Party is common sense. Problem solvers want to get things done. I want to make life more affordable for people. and he's not that. His agenda clearly is not in line with the Democratic Party. The bottom line is, what I'm hearing from the Democrats that I talk to regularly is he's not representative of the Democratic Party. He's a socialist.

>> Chris Woodward: So Democrats are all over the place based on things we've played since this show started. and Mamdani, who is kind of like the AOCs of the world, he's becoming the face of the party, whether they like it or not.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Look, aoc, Alexandria, Ocasio, Cortez, this guy Zoran Mamdani. M. They're both young, they're both good looking. So they, they're very presentable on television and in social media. They're both passionate. Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Energetic.

>> Ed Vitagliano: They're energetic.

>> Tim Wildmon: And describing me.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I mean, I can't help but notice that. Keep going.

>> Ed Vitagliano: They're both really not that smart, not that bright. So I had to depart a little bit.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: From you, Tim. But, no, I mean, I don't really know. Mamdani may very well be very bright. AOC does not strike me as being the sharpest knife in the drawer. But when you compare them to the other Democrats who are in charge of the party establishment, okay, we're talking about people like Nancy Pelosi, especially when she was in power, Chuck Schumer, some of these old people. Okay, now I'm saying this as a, as an older person. You are, you are going to draw, you're making a clear distinction between yourself and the past. And you're going to draw a lot of younger voters, especially younger voters who can't buy homes, who are stuck under a lot of college debt. I think Mamdani and aoc, I think they present a real danger in this country. I don't think we're at that place yet where we could would see a socialist, you know, making a legitimate run for the White House. But I don't think we're that far away, especially with young and impressive people like AOC and Mamdani.

>> Chris Woodward: Speaking of aoc, she will be age eligible to run for president in 2028, should she throw her hat in that ring. And there will be a push for people thinking that she's capable of that. I've even heard people say that if Mamdani becomes the mayor of New York City, somebody's gonna put him on a magazine. And New York City is.

>> Ed Vitagliano: position if you're mayor of that city. Well, Rudolph Giuliani.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Ran well.

>> Tim Wildmon: Most people in America know who the mayor of New York City is. It's that, it's that high profile of position. Zoran. So run. Mom, Donnie is.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I think you're just gonna like. You just like saying it now.

>> Tim Wildmon: It sounds cool. Like he's a. You know, got a flat, you know, like Superman.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right. He holds up a letter to his, forehead and tells the future.

Some Democrats are worried that Bernie Sanders is too far for the party

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so we're going to take a break. We'll take our break a little early right here. And, what was the point of our Zo. Ron Mandani, we're taught, we're, we were.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Talking about, oh, Democrats.

>> Tim Wildmon: Some Democrats are worried.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: That he's too far.

>> Ed Vitagliano: He's, doesn't represent the party.

>> Chris Woodward: Correct.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, there is, there is a division, right. From, the old school Democrats and this new, as you described them, basically socialist, communist wing of the, Democrat party, which is, as you said, where a lot of the energy is today.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we'll take a short time out right here. We'll be back with more of the news of the day right here on the program.

Over 60% of abortions happen through the abortion pill

Today's issues.

>> Ed Vitagliano: M. This June 24th marks three years since Roe versus Wade was overturned. But here's what you may not know. Abortion numbers have surged to a 10 year high. The battleground has shifted from the courtroom to our homes. Today, over 60% of abortions happen through the abortion pill. Taken in silence, often alone, PreBorn Network clinics are standing in the gap, meeting women in their most desperate hour. And here's what they're seeing. Young mothers, terrified and misled, are delivering their babies, tiny, perfectly formed, onto bathroom floors. These precious babies, once called just tissue, now lie lifeless. 11% of these women who take the abortion pill will suffer serious health complications. Countless others carry emotional scars for a lifetime. When you give to preborn, you're not just saving a baby, you're saving a mother, too. You're giving her hope, financial support and the truth. PreBorn has already rescued over 350,000 babies, but there are so many more who need our help. Your tax deductible gift makes this mission possible. To donate now, dial 250 and say the keyword baby. That's £250, baby. Or go to preborn.com afr that's preborn.com.

>> Tim Wildmon: Afr we give thanks to God always for all of you, constantly mentioning you in our prayers, remembering before our God.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And Father, your work of faith and labor, of love and steadfastness, of hope.

>> Frank Gaffney: In our Lord Jesus Christ.

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President Trump announces day of mourning for late night host Stephen Colbert

>> Tim Wildmon: Welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on American Family Radio. Tim, Ed, Wesley and Chris, President Trump, announced today, he is going to have a day of mourning for CBS late night host Stephen Colbert, who, was fired, lost, his job. And, so I don't know when that'll be forthcoming. I'm sure the details that is. Well, the flags will be ordered to be at half mast for one Stephen Colbert, who's still alive, but television wise, he's. He died.

>> Ed Vitagliano: He's not right.

>> Chris Woodward: It m. Must, it must be terrible to lose your job and still be.

>> Tim Wildmon: Owed millions of dollars, said President Trump. And I'm. Okay, I'm not kidding about this. What?

>> Ed Vitagliano: You're just serious.

>> Tim Wildmon: But no, what I said the last one minute was not serious.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: What I'm about to say now is, okay, I'm quoting, President Trump on his true social, you know, where he goes to rant his feelings about everything in the world.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right. Big and small.

>> Chris Woodward: Is it in big and small, all caps or smoke?

>> Tim Wildmon: It's, it's his therapy to self therapy. President Trump's. He just says whatever he feels. He said, quote, I absolutely love that Kobayer got fired. And he said, his talent was even less than his ratings. I hear. This is Trump talking. I hear Jimmy Kimmel is next. He has even less talent than Colbert. Greg. Go Greg. Gut feel is better than all of them combined, including the moron on NBC who ruined the once great Tonight show, end of quote.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Goodness.

>> Tim Wildmon: So the Colbert responded with. With a, phrase that I, can't repeat it.

>> Chris Woodward: He go Hunter Biden on us.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. And I can't repeat that on, on our radio network, nor would I want to. But anyway. Yeah, so Trump's, celebrating the television death of Stephen Colbert, which have you, you know what. Have you watched any of these late night. I haven't watched.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't watch years. Any of them.

>> Tim Wildmon: I watched Gut Feel a couple times and he's pretty good. He has a panel on.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'll watch that.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know.

>> Ed Vitagliano: If it's something interesting, you watch a.

>> Tim Wildmon: Clip like with the View. You're a big View guy, aren't you?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, oh, my goodness.

>> Chris Woodward: DVRs it and watches it after the show.

>> Wesley Wildmon: You get dumb or listening to the View.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. I mean, it lowers your IQ listening to this show. raises your IQ, right? listening to the View.

>> Chris Woodward: I got a PhD last week.

>> Tim Wildmon: That hurts. I've had one of those.

>> Ed Vitagliano: A PhD?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: You take Ambien for that?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, yes, Right about.

>> Tim Wildmon: You will think about it. You get one of those.

Kirk Cameron is really angry with President Trump

All right. You're listening to today's issues on the American family.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That was four minutes forever.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I think they're celebrating Stephen Colbert. Colbert. Even though they don't watch him.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Which is one of the reasons he's gone.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes, very true.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so. But he's really angry with President Trump. Mocking.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Just can't get off it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Mocking him. Trump trolls better than anybody in human history. Am I right?

>> Ed Vitagliano: He'll send you to the. Through the roof.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: If you're on the receiving end.

>> Tim Wildmon: So, you're listening to Today's Issues. Well, we have as our guest now, Kirk Cameron. Kurt's on with us from time to time here on today's Issues on afr. He is an actor, author, and producer, and, he's also a librarian. so, just a very diverse guy here. Kirk Cameron joins us from who knows where. Kirk, good morning to you.

>> Frank Gaffney: Hey, good morning, guys. How are you?

>> Tim Wildmon: Good. Where are you today?

>> Frank Gaffney: I'm in Tennessee. I live here now. The Volunteer State. It's a beautiful place.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. but I mean, what. Well, are you calling us from?

>> Frank Gaffney: I don't know. What? Does it sound echoey on your end?

>> Tim Wildmon: yes, it does. Uh-huh. Echoey. That's a good word, too, by the way.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So we probably can get.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, we can make it. I'm just. It's not that bad.

In and Out Burger is moving its headquarters to Nashville

Okay. Kurt and I knew you lived in Tennessee because you were on with us a, couple of times.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Can I ask Kirk a question? Yeah. We mentioned yesterday. This is not the reason why we had you on, obviously. But, we mentioned yesterday that in and Out Burger is moving its headquarters to Nashville. You lived in California. Are you an In N Out fan?

>> Frank Gaffney: Of course. We love In N Out. And anytime a city has that much needed chicken beef balance that is provided by both Chick Fil A and In N Out Burger, it reaches this golden equilibrium that makes life worth living.

>> Tim Wildmon: You asked for it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, listen, that's a good answer.

>> Tim Wildmon: Got it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's a beautiful answer.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's a beautiful. Yeah, big beautiful.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's a big, beautiful answer.

Tim Ferriss: Kirk Cameron founded See you at the Library Day

All right, we were. We were mentioning that, that President Trump sends people into orbit on the left. And if. If Kirk Cameron is one, folks, we have Kirk Cameron. This is a special guest. He puts p. He sends people into orbit, too, because he is a bold, unapologetic Christian. And, Kirk, tell us a little bit about, see you at the library. That's what Tim, meant by your librarian, you're, bold about your faith. tell our listeners what, See you at the Library is all about and why you started this.

>> Frank Gaffney: Well, See youe at the Library is a very special yearly event that started a couple of years ago when I started reading children's books at public libraries and I was locked out of those libraries by elite leftists. This is the purple hair platoon that wanted you to come if you were going to read a transgender book or something about gay dinosaurs. but if you wanted to talk about faith, hope and love, it was a hard no. Well, I went to those libraries anyway, and parents and grandparents showed up in droves and they said, yes, yes, we love Jesus, we love our families, and we want to get back to the values that produce blessing in our country. And this has turned into not just a protest, but an entire movement across the country. And now on August 16th, we have our third annual see you at the Library Day, where parents, and grandparents and children in all 50 states, 500 public libraries and tens of thousands of people will be gathering to sing patriotic songs, to pray and thank God and read books of Christian virtue or any book that they like, at their public libraries to rewrite the narrative that America does not want to go down the rainbow sewer. It wants to get back to the high road of truth and goodness and beauty. And, we're inviting everybody to find the library that's participating or adopt your own public library and be a part of See youe at the library event on August 16th.

Brave Books is a company that produces children's books with pro America values

>> Ed Vitagliano: Now, Kirk, you, tell us a little about Brave Books. Did you start that publishing house?

>> Frank Gaffney: no, I joined a publishing company and they, they operate out of Texas and they have this amazing company that produces a new children's book every month with a pro God, pro America value. And it's teaching children, and giving parents opportunity to homeschool their kids or augment their private or public school education with books and curriculum that teach them about honesty, about trustworthiness, about forgiveness, about, turning to God as your ultimate source of truth and trusting your parents to help you understand right from wrong and good from evil. So I've written a few books together with them and they've got a Book of the Month club. They've now got a streaming service and I just produced a children's television show with them called Iggy and Mr. Kirk. It's kind of like a modern day version of Mr. Rogers Neighborhood for Families in 2025. And they're an awesome company. I, can't say enough about Brave books.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Hey, this is Wesley here. It sounds like a spin off of see you at the Pole. I know growing up I looked forward to that when I was in middle school and high school. see you at the pole is a big deal, especially here in Mississippi. And so, tell us again about the dates and where people can, go, because, ah, it sounds like it's more than just you doing it. Other people can participate in it as well.

>> Frank Gaffney: That's right. That's right. It's on August 16th. And if you go to, see you@the library.com you can find a map of the United States, zoom into your county in your state and find that library and just show up. If you don't have a library near you, you can adopt one and we'll give you a kit and show you.

>> Tim Wildmon: How to do it.

>> Frank Gaffney: You can turn it into a fundraiser and bless a charity in your local area and help Brave Books to get these into schools all over the country. the important thing to remember is that this isn't just about showing up and reading books. It's about giving moms and dads the opportunity to engage the culture in the public square. Too often as Christians, you know, we complain about the culture, but we're not supposed to be, complainers. We're supposed to be creators. And so if we don't show up and, and speak the truth with boldness and love, the other side will fill the void. And believe me, they're advancing their values every single day. If we don't stand for our beliefs now in the public square, we risk the freedom and we will lose the opportunity to live those values later.

>> Tim Wildmon: Talking to Kirk Cameron, here on the program.

Kirk Cameron hopes for 500 libraries and 50,000 people joining August 16th

Kirk joins us from, Tennessee.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm looking at this right. I'm looking at the map right now for our Mississippians. There's one in Vicksburg or Jackson, Mississippi area. That's a big area. But there's one in Jackson area and there's one in Eupora. And you can get those exact, address locations for those libraries by going. I found it this way. I went to bravebooks, us. And from there it has a link that you can click on to find.

>> Tim Wildmon: Gonna be.

>> Chris Woodward: I'll share that.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, no, not where he's gonna be.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Where they're gonna have these. See you at the library. And there's still time to.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, yeah, plenty of time.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Set one up yourself.

>> Wesley Wildmon: they're all over America. I can't even count all the blue dots. But I'm looking at probably 40 or 50, at least. Libraries, probably more across the country.

>> Frank Gaffney: We've got over a hundred.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.

>> Frank Gaffney: Libraries signed up already. last year we had 360 total. And, here we're hoping for 500 libraries and 50,000 people joining us on August 16th. So it's super cool.

>> Tim Wildmon: absolutely. I'm talking to Kirk Cameron. Kirk, the, show that you were on that was very popular was growing pains from 1985-82 on ABC, right?

>> Frank Gaffney: That's right. So am, I 85 to 92. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Was that along the time, the same time as a Cosby Show?

>> Frank Gaffney: It was. And boy, our hearts break.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Frank Gaffney: For Malcolm Jamal Warner's family. And what.

>> Tim Wildmon: What a tragedy for those who haven't heard of, Malcolm Jamal Warner, who, played Theo. Played Theo on the, On the Cosby show back in the 80s, right?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: His, m. His name was Malcolm. His real name is Malcolm Jamal Warner. He died in a sort of freak accident yesterday. 54 years old. A family vacation in Costa Rica. Don't know. He drowned somewhere or another.

>> Ed Vitagliano: M. Yeah, he got sucked out by a riptide.

>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, very tragic news. And, so that's why I thought y' all were contemporaries, on, you know, similar style shows about a family back in the day.

>> Frank Gaffney: that's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: So, anyway, well, listen, Kirk, thanks so much, brother, for being on with us. We wish you much success here, and thank you for standing up for truth and the gospel. And come, see us when you can.

>> Frank Gaffney: Well, I would like that very much. I appreciate you guys. And, remember, be joyful always, pray continually, and give thanks in all circumstances.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Amen.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amen.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Thank you, brother.

>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you, Kirk. Take care, my friend. All right. Okay. See you. I really appreciate Kirk Cameron.

Tim Ferriss: Kirk Cameron emphasizes the alternative to complaining

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, it's Kirk Cameron. I really appreciate him, emphasizing the alternative to complaining. Obviously, you can disagree and express your complaining in a constructive way, but the constructive way ultimately is being creative and it, Providing a creative alternative. And so this is his answer. And this can be your answer in your area to the drag queen story hours that's taking place. And obviously call and complain and say, we don't want those. But at the same time, here's say, here's what we do want.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, there's an old expression. Don't just curse the darkness, light a candle.

>> Tim Wildmon: And that's a pretty candle.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Christian, huh?

>> Wesley Wildmon: I smell good candle.

>> Tim Wildmon: I agree with you.

>> Wesley Wildmon: A scented candle.

>> Ed Vitagliano: No candle. I hate those that aren't my house.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm Just, what about incense?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I don't. I don't go for any of that. It just makes my nose run.

>> Chris Woodward: I gotta. I gotta cancel the candle. I just.

>> Wesley Wildmon: No surprise. Dad hijacked a spiritual moment. There.

>> Tim Wildmon: There are a lot. There are some churches, like, Greek Orthodox. They're big at the incense.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. and I'm not knocking them. I'm just saying in my home. Okay. I don't want to walk in and get hit with a wall of pumpkin spice or some other horrifying smell.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: by the way, Kirk Cameron, a lot of folks may also know him. he partners with Ray Comfort in the evangelistic ministry, the Way of the Master.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So Kirk is very, very busy and very productive. He's one of these guys like you're talking about Wesley, who comes up with creative ways to get the gospel message out. And Tim, this is your cue to, hijack the message.

>> Tim Wildmon: More power to you, brother. I appreciate what you had to say right there.

>> Ed Vitagliano: and Wesley, you too.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wish you guys well.

>> Wesley Wildmon: We, Why won't you just repeat what we contributed? Well, see what you learned. Yeah. What you learned.

>> Tim Wildmon: I learned that melatonin.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's is not.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Is better than Ambien.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And watermelon. All three different things.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. Haney learned it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Don't get them mixed up.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Melatonin, your skin.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Easy to melanin.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Melanin.

Amazon says scammers are tricking prime users into giving up passwords

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, you're listening to today's Issues. Back to you, Chris.

>> Chris Woodward: I have a scam alert.

>> Tim Wildmon: What's your next story? You have a what?

>> Chris Woodward: A scam alert.

>> Tim Wildmon: Scam alert. Give us a scam alert.

>> Chris Woodward: I'll post this link.

>> Tim Wildmon: Scam a lot.

>> Chris Woodward: That's right. I'll, post this link on our, Today's Issues Facebook page. But Amazon says scammers are tricking prime users into giving up their passwords and payment details, pretending to be Amazon itself. And they are getting better at it. The company alerted users after a sharp increase in fake emails and phone calls targeting its 200 million customers. In July, just after their Prime Day sales event, Amazon sent an email warning customers that scammers are posing as the company and claiming their prime membership will be renewed at a higher price than unless they cancel it immediately. This is a big concern because basically, if they can get into your, emails, if they can attack you in one way and get your Amazon account information, they can get a lot more.

>> Tim Wildmon: Here's the. Half the world uses Amazon.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes, they do.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Probably Americans. I'm saying 50% of Americans or more use Amazon. So what these scammers are doing is trying to pose as Amazon to Amazon customers. M. And it's tricking a lot of people. And Amazon themselves are warning against this.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, because they're getting very, very good at creating an email that looks legitimate.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, a lot of, a lot of the scammers, you know, even five years ago, their scam emails would have misspelled words. And they're clearly, they clearly know what they're talking about. They were a little bit easier to pick out. But if for Amazon, they are, yes. It's becoming, it's crazy out there, man.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm becoming cynical. I don't answer anything. I think everything's a scam. Yeah, I don't even take my wife's phone calls anymore.

>> Chris Woodward: Why you don't respond to my emails, man.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: I got a text yesterday. I'm sure y' all got it too. I got a text yesterday, Bridge. Well, it said, hey, it just from a number I don't recognize.332 something. It says, hey, got a sack.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Sack. Yes, it. I got that one.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I got that one. Yeah, look. Hey, got a sec? And what it is, is yes, I do. Yeah, they, they want you to respond so that they'll know that you have an active phone number.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes, yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You respond and say, sure. And then they know we got a live one.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. I was gonna say absolutely. What's going on?

>> Ed Vitagliano: and then if you, if you.

>> Tim Wildmon: I didn't do that. I don't answer it because for the very reasons we're talking about. But,

>> Ed Vitagliano: If you do, if you answer one of these, call always get. Hello, my name, my name is David.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, my daughter got one, like a month ago and she said, it just said, are you still, are you still alive? That was the text from some unknown number, random number she gets on her phone. Are you still alive? Of course, all these are bait.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, they're bait for you to confirm to the scammer that you have an active phone number.

>> Ed Vitagliano: My wife the other day, asked to, to see my debit card and I told her, no, this sounds, this seems like a scam. I said, I don't, I don't know if you're really my wife. Forget it.

>> Tim Wildmon: You got a DMV one, didn't you?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I did. I got one from the dmv. I get those fairly. I have. Which we've talked about this.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who knew that North Koreans were so in this spamming Well, I would get.

>> Ed Vitagliano: These messages from the Texas Department of Motor Vehicles if my wife and I had gone and, and driven to Dallas to see my sister.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Or family members. And that's what kind of made it look real. I thought how do they know that I was in Texas? But I just got one last week from Mississippi. This is the first one I've gotten from my own.

>> Tim Wildmon: What do they want you to do?

>> Ed Vitagliano: They want, they want you to pay the the, the, the toll.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Like Mississippi has toll roads.

>> Tim Wildmon: We don't have toll roads.

>> Chris Woodward: Thank Lord we don't.

>> Ed Vitagliano: They want you to go to this quote unquote website link. They give you in a link and then you put in your debit card information to pay it.

If you click on a link, it can download malware

Otherwise you could lose your license and all kinds of other bad stuff.

>> Wesley Wildmon: They tell you by clicking the link though it's more than them expecting you most in most cases to give you information by clicking the link. They then have access to you in your phone, right?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. It can download malware. Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: We had an interesting experience back in March. My wife and I went to Branson and we went to see an event and we sat down in our seats and my wife gets a text message and it was like possible fraud alert. This is your bank. And it named the name of the bank which coincidentally we are customers of. And it went on to say that like you know, purchase if have been made out of your normal area. Click here it. And she showed it to me and we both felt that it seemed like a scam. Like it was just people that somehow knew we were customers at this particular bank. So I was like let's not answer it, let's not respond or whatever. And it turned out to be a legit text message from our bank. So when we went out to eat for some. Went out for some ice cream later that night, her card didn't work.

>> Tim Wildmon: And so when you travel out of state, our. Yeah. If you travel a few hundred miles from your area home sometimes they will. That will trigger a right fraud alert.

>> Chris Woodward: So we were, we were trying to be cautious and we just assumed this is probably a scam, a well thought out scam. But sometimes when you're. You can be over cautious I guess is my point.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I would like if I could to add to yalls paranoia please because I'm.

>> Tim Wildmon: Looking around, I'm looking around and waiting for somebody to peel back their face like, like, like mission impossible here in this room.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So I was. And order the other. I was watching A TV show the other night. And, it was Law and Order and cop. Who gets called on their phone by another cop. I'm oversimplifying this, leaving out all the details. Called to a scene that they were requested to go to based on a crime, that they were investigating.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, they get there and that cop gets kidnapped because the phone call that they took was the voice of their partner cop. But it was, but it was A.I. voiceover.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, it was cloned.

>> Wesley Wildmon: It was cloned. So when I, that's the reason when I, I don't even take phone calls unless it's I. I go to voicemail. I don't. And I don't. And if I call somebody back because it, because it sounds legit, I let them talk first. I don't talk to a phone like.

>> Tim Wildmon: Or Irv.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Or you. You were describing the other day while ago like a telemarketer, or whatever. I don't because I'm scared they're going to take my voice and use my voice for something down the road that I didn't intend it to be used for.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. And then my wife gets a call from me, quote unquote, and it sounds like me. And I say, hey, we need to go to this website.

>> Tim Wildmon: And.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, so. So if you do get a telemarketer, let's say you accidentally pick one up. Okay. And you go, oh, I shouldn't have taken that one. Don't say any. I wouldn't say anything.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Or you can just disguise your voice.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes. That's a good one.

>> Chris Woodward: There was a story last year. I'm pretty sure we talked about it, maybe even Steve, covered it during the 11 to 11:30 story. But there was like an incident last year where a mom got a phone call from, like it was an AI scam using her daughter's voice.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: Creepy stuff.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, like a deep fake type thing. Well, this all started. We started talking about this because there is a. That company, Amazon, has issued an alert.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: To all their customers. Beware of scamming emails. Right.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: that pretend to be Amazon, but they're not telling the people to initiate or do something. I got a card at my. Well, I don't know if this was a scam or not, but anyway. But, a postcard at my house and it wanted me, to call the bank about mortgage or something like that. But it was the bank that I used, so. But it was like, it looked like, something that, Anyway, I didn't check it out, so Maybe I should check it out.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, anymore. What I try to do is I go, like, if I get a notification from my bank, if we're 200 miles away, I don't click the link in the notification. I go to my app, my bank app. And, they have a little thing where messages. So I access the message that way rather than going through the message, I get on the phone.

>> Tim Wildmon: But they. Credit card companies routinely stop you, if you don't let them know. That's why you need to let them know in advance.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Once a week, I get a PayPal. Or once every two weeks, I get a PayPal email. That's not from PayPal. This.

This, uh, fake PayPal that. Telling me I owe X amount of money

This, fake PayPal that. Telling me I owe X amount of money. I've had a zero balance there for years.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's a popular scam. PayPal. PayPal. all right.

>> Wesley Wildmon: You didn't get us.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's.

>> Wesley Wildmon: No, try again.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're right. Anyway, so, yeah, the text says, so. Hey, got a sack.

>> Wesley Wildmon: They got us.

>> Tim Wildmon: They want me to answer the Layton block. Yes, they need. Yeah. All right, we'll see you back here in five minutes with more of today's issues.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.

Tim, Wesley and Ed talk with Chris on top news headlines of the day including a discussion on Hunter Biden's interview. Also, Kirk Cameron joins the program to discuss See You At The Library.