Today's Issues continues on AFR with Steve Paisley Giorda
>> Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
Tim Wildmon Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to the this program. I'm Tim Wildmon with Avatagliano and Wesley Wildmon. And now Steve Paisley Giorda joins us. Good morning, Steve.
Steve Jordahl Good morning, everybody.
Tim Wildmon How are you?
Steve Jordahl I'm, Well, I'm feeling very relieved today.
Tim Wildmon Why is that?
Steve Jordahl Well, I might have told y' all that, my wife and I are going on a cruise in August, and, we're going to Alaska, which is in the United States, so I shouldn't need a passport, but we are stopping in Canada, and I just might. And I have one, but I've lost it because I've moved a couple times and everything. So I was needing to get another passport, but I also don't have my birthday birth certificate. Well, I ordered my birth certificate, and it showed up at the office today about five minutes ago.
Tim Wildmon So I now have a, You know, ICE was about to come.
Steve Jordahl I know, I know. Now I can prove that I'm. I'm born in the United States.
Tim Wildmon Yeah.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon So. So you, So your passport arrived?
Steve Jordahl No, my birth certificate arrived. Now I gotta go get the passport. I might not need it, but,
Tim Wildmon Where were you born?
Steve Jordahl Portland, Oregon.
Tim Wildmon Okay.
Steve Jordahl 1960, Multnomah County.
Tim Wildmon Okay, well, no county.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon So you got to. Got that. Now you got to get an expedited passport.
Steve Jordahl passport.
Tim Wildmon Then you can go to where? You go to Canada?
Steve Jordahl Yeah. Victoria, are you,
Tim Wildmon Are y' all taking the boat out of Seattle or. Vancouver. Seattle. But you're going to stop in Vancouver?
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon I got you.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon Okay.
Steve Jordahl Actually, yeah.
Tim Wildmon Is this your, I've never. I wanted to do a Alaskan, cruise, but haven't, you know, this first Alaskan cruise.
Steve Jordahl The closest. My wife.
Tim Wildmon Well.
Steve Jordahl M. I thought this was a.
Tim Wildmon m. Family show.
Ed Vitagliano And he's going to a cold place.
Tim Wildmon Let me, refine. Let me re. Rephrase that.
Steve Jordahl Please do.
Tim Wildmon Okay, once I say this, you guys.
Steve Jordahl Will go, you know, Exactly. Now, I know what you're asking now.
Tim Wildmon are you going with a ministry? Are you going just, as individuals?
Steve Jordahl Just as individuals. That's what you meant, just as individuals. We're just taking a vacation and we're.
Tim Wildmon Going on drink if you want to.
Steve Jordahl If I want to, Yeah, I suppose.
Tim Wildmon But you're Baptist, right?
Steve Jordahl I am.
Tim Wildmon I'm only kidding. People don't email me.
Steve Jordahl Settle down.
We're going with Canard, the cruise line
Ed Vitagliano So trouble now.
Steve Jordahl We're going with Canard, the cruise line.
Ed Vitagliano That means lie Canard.
Steve Jordahl Well, no. C A N A R D. Yeah. this is C U N N A R D. This is the. It's it, it might be not so good news because Canard is the company that back in the day about White Line Shipping. You might not know. I think it's White Line. It's White Something Shipping. They own the Titanic.
Ed Vitagliano M. Oh.
Tim Wildmon So is this gonna, is this an omen for you?
Steve Jordahl I hope not. I'm pretty sure that we're gonna be okay. We'll be within sight of the shore the whole time. So if I have to split.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, that'll that helps. As long as you see it. You swim to it off the coast.
Ed Vitagliano In the midst of a pod of orcas.
Tim Wildmon We look forward to your, report your story when you get back.
Steve Jordahl I'm glad to be, Glad to let you in on.
CBS is canceling the Stephen Colbert Show
Ed Vitagliano So is this kind of thing where you're going to go like to a glacier and you can get on the glacier?
Steve Jordahl Well, they don't. No, we're going to Glacier Bay, but I don't think we get off the.
Tim Wildmon Boat, get on a glacier. Like this is Disney World or something.
Ed Vitagliano No, I've talked to people who have gone on Alaskan cruises and they'll take you to a glacier. and then you, you slide down and you can. Well, no, it's, it's, it's flat for miles.
Steve Jordahl Yeah. I, I, if it gets too close to where the glaciers cal is what they're calling when they kind of break off, it can get kind of dangerous. I don't believe they're we're getting off the boat and, but we're stopping in Catch can and another town in Alaska and then Victoria and then Catch it.
Tim Wildmon Catch Cam.
Steve Jordahl Catch a Can, I think it's called.
Ed Vitagliano Tim, keep being a wise guy. And I'm gonna call Vanessa from the west coast office.
Tim Wildmon Right.
Ed Vitagliano And tell them you really want to.
Tim Wildmon Talk about warranty and give him his email.
Ed Vitagliano And give him. Give you your email.
Tim Wildmon No, I will kill somebody. That happens.
Steve Jordahl By the way you guys have been talking.
Tim Wildmon Gladly. I'll gladly go to jail.
Steve Jordahl You guys have been talking about the Colbert Show.
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Steve Jordahl I'm going to miss the Colbert Show.
Tim Wildmon Are you?
Steve Jordahl Yeah, I've been missing it for 10 years and, so I'm going to continue missing it.
Tim Wildmon Stephen Colbert. Oh, yeah. You haven't.
Steve Jordahl Yeah, I've watched it once.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. Listen, the now somebody. Well, CBS is canceling the Stephen Colbert. It's called the Late show, right.
Steve Jordahl Yes, that.
Tim Wildmon Was that the one that David Letterman started?
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Tim Wildmon Okay, so he started it.
Steve Jordahl He left NBC to start it, because.
Tim Wildmon And he used to come on after Jay Leno.
Steve Jordahl Yep.
Tim Wildmon Who, did the Tonight show for many years and then before him, obviously the, Johnny Carson era.
Steve Jordahl But, Jimmy Fallon now has the Tonight Show. It's not going to be for them either, but.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, I don't watch any of them.
Ed Vitagliano I don't watch any of them. But I will say this, Jimmy Fallon is the least objectionable to me.
Tim Wildmon Right.
Ed Vitagliano Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano They were mean spirited and nasty.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon Ah.
Ed Vitagliano And so dismissive and insulting towards conservatives, that I couldn't stand them. Jimmy Fallon, I think he still kind of leans left, but he didn't seem to me to be that, that kind of nasty.
Steve Jordahl He it booked Donald Trump in the, during the first campaign and joked around with him, even pulled his hair with everything. And he got next to canceled. He was, they were not happy with him. You're humanizing him. You're humanizing him. And so then he stopped doing that. He started being a little left leaning. But the conservatives online are now kind of celebrating the Colbert cancellation and everything. But what they're saying is that late night has just stopped being funny altogether. it just, it's just not funny. I mean, yeah, you got the political, but even when it's not political, it's not funny. And they have a clip from the Colbert show to prove it. And it is a stupid little video.
Ed Vitagliano Is this where they danced around?
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano Vaccine.
Steve Jordahl No. Well, okay, that was, that was the Colbert Show.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Steve Jordahl And that was the vac.
Ed Vitagliano When he's on Comedy Central.
Steve Jordahl Yeah, no, that was just tonight. It was 2022. He was, he was in the Tonight show, or the Late show. and very cringe. Oh, it was. But what they have on, the Tonight Show, Jimmy Fallon is, he's dancing around. He and Ferrell. What's his, Colleen E. Montague Farrell. No, the other one.
Tim Wildmon Will Ferrell.
Steve Jordahl Will Ferrell jumping around and they're wearing jeans, cut off jeans and they're calling them jorts. And they just sit around saying, where are my jorts? Where are my jorts? It's the stupidest, least funny thing I've ever seen. And that's what they're using as the example of why late night has gone the way of the dodo bird. Its demise is imminent.
Johnny Carson launched a lot of comedian comedians with his Tonight show
Tim Wildmon Well, Johnny Carson, the reason he was so popular, of course, back in that era talking 6070s even into the 80s, is because there wasn't, there wasn't cable TV yet. It was just now coming, to pass. So there wasn't much competition yet. So you were obviously going to get a larger audience.
Ed Vitagliano Right?
Tim Wildmon So. But Johnny Carson had a, good personality for late night tv. He would poke fun at both sides of the political aisle.
Ed Vitagliano Right.
Tim Wildmon But it was like good natured humor. It wasn't mean spirited.
Ed Vitagliano and he poked fun at himself.
Tim Wildmon Ugly. Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano He would tell kind of corny jokes. They would bomb, but it was all.
Steve Jordahl Part of the deadpan look.
Ed Vitagliano And he would mock himself for the badger.
Steve Jordahl He, he was a king maker. comedians would come on and they would just hope and pray that they would be invited over to the couch. Because if you, if you were invited.
Tim Wildmon Over the couch on the Johnny Carson.
Steve Jordahl Johnny Carson show, comedians would come out.
Tim Wildmon And the Tonight show with Johnny Carson.
Steve Jordahl He, he launched a lot of comedian comedians, including, Seinfeld was early on his. Steve Martin was early.
Ed Vitagliano Jim Carrey.
Steve Jordahl Jim Carrey was early with Carson. So. Yeah.
Cut 10 Fire Aid raised $100 million for wildfire victims in California
Tim Wildmon All right, next story.
Steve Jordahl All right. Hey, there's a currently, have we loaded cut 10? There's a currently, a, little scandal developing in Southern California. I know you're going to be surprised to find that there's a scandal going on in California, but you remember the Palisades fire that happened, earlier. This was earlier this year.
Ed Vitagliano Oh, yeah.
Steve Jordahl Lots of homes, were,
Tim Wildmon Was that last fall already or when was that?
Steve Jordahl I have to look, January.
Ed Vitagliano Done with the story. I'll look it up.
Steve Jordahl Well, so they, they decided to do a celebrity concert, one of these we are the world type things where they invited all these celebrity musicians in and they called it fire aid. And they raised $100 million.
Ed Vitagliano January, January, January this year.
Steve Jordahl Well, one of the people that lost her home is an investigative reporter and someone pointed out, another neighbor of hers pointed out, I haven't seen any of the money. Wonder where it went. So she went looking for the money. This is what she found. Cut 10 Fire Aid that star studded concert that raised $100 million for wildfire victims.
Tim Wildmon But where did all that money go? Investigative journalist Sue Pasco has been digging for answers. All this news money are going to nonprofits and then nonprofits will take care of making sure the money's distributed. Initially they gave $50 million to about 120 nonprofits.
Steve Jordahl I would urge everyone to just go.
Tim Wildmon To the nonprofits that are listed if you want a good laugh.
Steve Jordahl I mean, one of the nonprofits cleans preschool bathrooms. Not a dime has been seen by any of the. Any of the people.
Ed Vitagliano The actual people.
Steve Jordahl Actual people. And now I'm seeing that squatters are coming and setting up tents and mobile homes on the properties of the people who lost their homes. And they can't. The people who own the property if they want, if they wanted to rebuild or whatever, they can't get them off. Gotta get.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, because you gotta, you gotta go through a. Something.
Steve Jordahl I don't.
Ed Vitagliano What is the deal too? I, I, It seems like gov. Governor Gavin Newsom had announced last week. I just saw the headline in this. Wasn't able to actually click through and read the article. Is there a move on the part of California to snap up this property and build public housing?
Steve Jordahl I saw the headline as well and I did not read the article. I think that's correct. I'd have to do a little bit of research to be able to report on it accurately. But I saw that same headline, low income housing, which doesn't surprise anybody. But. Yeah, so.
Ed Vitagliano And they would take it by eminent domain and they would say for, for the public use. You're taking your property.
Steve Jordahl They can do that. Now they, they would compensate them market value. Usually they don't have to, but they, they would. I think these are very rich and pop, you know, powerful people.
Ed Vitagliano And these people don't want to give up that land. They want to rebuild. Yeah, I'm not talking about the wisdom of rebuilding in these.
Steve Jordahl Even if they want to rebuild, remember, they're rebuilding in California. And it takes about four times as much effort to build in California as it does anywhere else in the world because of all the regulations. so things are not going well in the fire country in Southern California.
Ed Vitagliano Well, these kinds of things. And again, it might be a good story if you, if you have time, you got plenty to do. But, the. Remember the fire in Hawaii?
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano Ah, there are a lot of people talking about, okay, what's going to happen to that property now? Is the state going to use eminent domain to snap it up? And I just lost, I just lost touch with the story. I don't know what's happened over there, but it's always very. People get suspicious about the start of the fires. And I'm not trying to promote some kind of conspiracy theory because that's just not me.
Tim Wildmon No, it's not.
Ed Vitagliano But, but it is. And listen, it's hard for me to feel badly for rich elites in California who probably despise my values. but I don't think it's right for the state to Just take that and say, hey, we're going to give it away to somebody else.
Steve Jordahl It's quite socialist of you.
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Tim Wildmon Next story. Steve.
Tim Ferriss: Iranian foreign minister speaks out against Hamas and Hezbollah
Steve Jordahl All right, so the Iranian foreign minister, his name is Abbas, Arachi, sat down, at Fox News with Bret Baer Special Report, and they had a little interview. And he asked him a whole number of questions. But what interested me was the questions he asked. He said, you know, I hear every day, we hear reports of you starting your legislative session with the chance of death to America, death to Israel. What's that about? He said he asked, and this was the answer.
Speaker D Kari, The Supreme Leader and other officials in Iran have always said that death to America is, in fact, debts to the, you know, hegemonic policies of the United States, not to the, people of, United States. Yes, there are some, perhaps radicals, persons or groups, here and there, in different places, inside, outside of Iran, who may say something, like what you said, but that has never been our policy, and they will never be in our policy in the future. This, is not our policy to kill anybody, outside Iran, let alone the president of another country.
Tim Wildmon With all due respect, you're supplying arms and drones and missiles to Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis. The Houthis are firing on US and international ships. Obviously, the actions of Hamas and Hezbollah, no matter what you say their motivation is, are causing death.
Speaker D We believe that, those freedom fighters, let me say, Hamas, Hezbollah, they are fighting for a just cause. And, we have always supported them politically, and, in other ways, because we think that they are, as I said, fighting, for something absolutely legitimate.
Tim Wildmon Even if that fighting, in their words, is about wiping Israel off the face of the map.
Speaker D Well, if, we have never said that they have. Well, that. That is. That is up to them. They are fighting for their own homeland, so they may say anything.
Tim Wildmon All right, listen, just one note here. That was the Iranian foreign minister, correct? He said we've. He said we, talking about Iran, has never said wipe Israel out the face of the earth.
Steve Jordahl That's what he said.
Tim Wildmon Okay, so when you say death to America, death to Israel, could that not be interpreted as wiping them off the face of the earth?
Ed Vitagliano It's clearly a metaphor, Tim. In his words, metaphor.
Tim Wildmon He wants a friendly one.
Steve Jordahl He wants death to the hegemonic policies of the United States.
Tim Wildmon Well, why didn't he say that? That needs to be their opening chant. Death to the hum.
Steve Jordahl Hegemony.
Ed Vitagliano Hegemony.
Tim Wildmon Death to the hegemony. Policies of the United States, not death to America. That way we wouldn't confuse the two or conflict the 2.
Ed Vitagliano Death to hegemonic policies.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, that's what I would say.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon That they need to say.
Steve Jordahl Yeah. Then he said, we never said that. And he said, yeah, but you did. And he goes, yeah. He said, well, some, How did. How did he phrase it at the end?
Ed Vitagliano He said, freedom fighters.
Steve Jordahl Freedom.
Tim Wildmon Hamas and Hezbollah. Yeah, that's what he. So there. There you go.
Steve Jordahl He said, well, some of them may say that.
Ed Vitagliano Well, listen, I'm just gonna say. I'm just gonna say this, and I'm going to be, Be kind here, but radical, radical Islam is a blight on the human race.
Tim Wildmon Right.
Ed Vitagliano Because if you won't condemn Hamas and Hezbollah after the things they've said and the things they've done, then you are no different than any other kind of fascist ideology.
Tim Wildmon And they're for them. he's saying the Iranian government, and we know this, they're kind of out in the open. They're. They're for, Oh, yeah, for the. What we would call terrorists who are trying to wipe out the Jews and.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, no, that's my point.
Tim Wildmon Yes.
Ed Vitagliano Is that Iran is run by radical Islamists.
Tim Wildmon They call them freedom fighters.
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Tim Wildmon That's their idea.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon Hamas and Hezbollah. So.
Ed Vitagliano Well, and the hoodies, which I wish.
Tim Wildmon We don't know about.
Ed Vitagliano Brett Baer was, interviewing him. I wish he had thought to say to the Iranians, well, we applaud the Israeli freedom fighters that, destroyed your, nuclear facilities. They're freedom fighters. What do you think of that? And if you attack any Americans, the freedom fighters that come on our aircraft carriers are going to teach you a thing or two about.
Steve Jordahl Yeah, I don't think Brett Baer would say that, but, yeah, that's what Donald Trump has said for sure. I've been seeing, some pop ups on my Twitter feed of some Muslim radical Muslim voices, in America who have said, we're done wanting to assimilate.
Ed Vitagliano Right.
Steve Jordahl we are one voice as a gal that said, so you're worried about going to prison? Well, if that's the cost for jihad, then go to prison. We're done playing around. Another guy said, we don't want to assimilate, we want to conquer. So it's a very, strident, ah, religion.
Once they claim a country or a territory, they believe it belongs to them forever
And they do. And once they claim a country or a territory, they believe it belongs to them forever.
Ed Vitagliano Right. Well, yeah, that's actually a good point, Tim. because these jihadis need to understand that that's the way we feel about our country. It's ours forever.
Tim Wildmon Forever.
Ed Vitagliano And you ain't getting it right.
Steven Colbert: Everybody should consider being an organ donor
Tim Wildmon Next story.
Ed Vitagliano I'm just suddenly in a bad mood and I don't know why.
Tim Wildmon I'm going to put you in a good Stephen Colbert.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, maybe brought him up and you've.
Tim Wildmon Been in a bad mood ever since.
Steve Jordahl Let me put you in a good mood. You have an organ donation, symbol on your card. You an organ, don't you?
Ed Vitagliano Not.
Tim Wildmon I do.
Ed Vitagliano First of all, nobody wants my organs. I'm. I'm at the age where people go, no, thank you.
Steve Jordahl Yes, some people. I'm there too.
Tim Wildmon But wait a minute, wait a minute. Now who's an organ donor in this room? Let's raise.
Steve Jordahl I'm not.
Tim Wildmon Are you an organ donor? No. Brent, are you?
Steve Jordahl I would.
Tim Wildmon Steven, our.
Steve Jordahl Yeah, I would be. Is it possible you'd be an organ donor and not know?
Ed Vitagliano Well, you want some countries, you won't.
Tim Wildmon Know when they come for them, I'll tell you that. Right. Well, No, I'm kidding. I'm not meaning to, But everybody should consider being an organ donor because I considered it.
Steve Jordahl Wait until you wait until they fix this before you do that, though. This is a cautionary tale.
Tim Wildmon Yes, go ahead.
Ed Vitagliano So make me put me in a good mood. You said.
Steve Jordahl an investigation by the Health Resources and Services Administration, found that, there have been several families that have slated surgeons to attempt to initiate organ retrievals while the patients were still alive.
Tim Wildmon No, no, no. Yes, that and it's what doesn't need to happen.
Steve Jordahl I know.
Tim Wildmon I've told them that. And now you know, I put on that certificate. Not until I said I better be dead.
Ed Vitagliano Well, in defense of those who do this. Okay, what?
Tim Wildmon Do what?
Ed Vitagliano Who. Who, harvest. That's just awful.
Tim Wildmon Change Picard. Now.
Ed Vitagliano Harvest. I don't want to be is. They do need to keep the body alive.
Ed Vitagliano So that the organs don't begin to die. So they have to determine whether a person can come out of whatever state they're in. And if they say no, this person's brain dead, for example. He's not going to make it. But we keep his body alive so we can harvest some stories we should.
Tim Wildmon Just stay away from. I don't want to be too late. Listen, I don't want to be quasi. I don't want to hear him in the background going, why is he dead or not? Take that liver.
Ed Vitagliano He's not saying anything.
Tim Wildmon Take that liver or not.
Steve Jordahl So the study Found that.
Tim Wildmon Listen, we're kidding around here. This. This is. This is a science. Okay? This is a m. Serious medical thing. And listen, Oregon.
Steve Jordahl Don't say there's some stories if you bring on ti. This is how this goes.
Tim Wildmon I know we probably should not do stories like this. because, it's left. It's left to me to. To keep us on task and make this a serious issue. And your eyesight, in all seriousness, people have gained eyesight.
Ed Vitagliano Oh yeah.
Tim Wildmon lives have been saved by heart and other organ transplants that have been donated by people. So it's a yes.
Ed Vitagliano And it is.
Steve Jordahl It is a good thing. The study finds that rushed decision making in organ demands are taking priority over donor safety in Kentucky. I'll say more than 70 cancer organ removals alone should have been stopped sooner than they were because patients showed signs of revival in Kentucky alone, according Where.
Tim Wildmon Who's reporting this now?
Steve Jordahl This is the, Health Resources and Services Administration. Dr. Or Secretary Robert Kennedy is pledging to reform the whole kitten caboodle.
Ed Vitagliano Okay, that's scary.
Steve Jordahl I know.
California's lost 18,000 fast food jobs because they raised minimum wage
That's why I brought it in.
Ed Vitagliano Patience. Sh showed signs of revival and they said, well, too late.
Tim Wildmon Health resources and services administrators keep the art. Administration tends to write a letter. This may be the same group that text me every week.
Ed Vitagliano How are you feeling?
Steve Jordahl That's why you better start answering him. But then. Right.
Ed Vitagliano You got a sec? We want to just say how you're feeling.
Tim Wildmon You're a kidney.
Steve Jordahl He thought it wasn't you thought you needed to not answer them. But maybe you do.
Tim Wildmon Health reserve. Anyway. That's. I did not need to know that story.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, you wanted to go all self righteous on west and I didn't.
Tim Wildmon And then. So, So y' all aren't. Anyway, go ahead. You got about 30 seconds. What do you got left?
Steve Jordahl I got 10 seconds. California's lost, 18, 000 jobs fast food industry because they raised the minimum wage to $20 an hour.
Tim Wildmon Told you. Told you.
Steve Jordahl So they've lost these jobs and they're not getting 18, 000 jobs. It's cost them now.
Tim Wildmon Now the ice cream machine will never work.
Steve Jordahl Never.
Tim Wildmon Because we were having trouble when we had the 18,000 fast food restaurant workers now. Huh?
Steve Jordahl Huh?
Ed Vitagliano Well, you think.
Tim Wildmon Don't tell me their ice cream repairman wasn't canned.
Ed Vitagliano If you think if you.
Tim Wildmon If.
Ed Vitagliano If you're paying them $20 an hour, they should at least keep the ice cream machine working at McDonald's.
Steve Jordahl That's how I look at it. Yeah, a lot of those jobs moved to Tennessee, so it's gonna be interesting to see if Tennessee ice cream machines work.
Tim Wildmon Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano By the way, we had, Kirk Cameron on, who's from California.
Steve Jordahl He's moved.
Ed Vitagliano He moved many years ago to Nashville. He loves. Oh, you heard that? He loves in and out.
Steve Jordahl We both do. He and I are similar fans.
Tim Wildmon All right. probably thankful that this hour and a half is over.
Steve Jordahl Yeah, that's right.
Ed Vitagliano And, that was good radio.
Tim Wildmon We'll move on till tomorrow and have a great day, everybody. Keep listening to American Family Radio.
Today's Issues continues on AFR with Steve Paisley Giorda
>> Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
Tim Wildmon Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to the this program. I'm Tim Wildmon with Avatagliano and Wesley Wildmon. And now Steve Paisley Giorda joins us. Good morning, Steve.
Steve Jordahl Good morning, everybody.
Tim Wildmon How are you?
Steve Jordahl I'm, Well, I'm feeling very relieved today.
Tim Wildmon Why is that?
Steve Jordahl Well, I might have told y' all that, my wife and I are going on a cruise in August, and, we're going to Alaska, which is in the United States, so I shouldn't need a passport, but we are stopping in Canada, and I just might. And I have one, but I've lost it because I've moved a couple times and everything. So I was needing to get another passport, but I also don't have my birthday birth certificate. Well, I ordered my birth certificate, and it showed up at the office today about five minutes ago.
Tim Wildmon So I now have a, You know, ICE was about to come.
Steve Jordahl I know, I know. Now I can prove that I'm. I'm born in the United States.
Tim Wildmon Yeah.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon So. So you, So your passport arrived?
Steve Jordahl No, my birth certificate arrived. Now I gotta go get the passport. I might not need it, but,
Tim Wildmon Where were you born?
Steve Jordahl Portland, Oregon.
Tim Wildmon Okay.
Steve Jordahl 1960, Multnomah County.
Tim Wildmon Okay, well, no county.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon So you got to. Got that. Now you got to get an expedited passport.
Steve Jordahl passport.
Tim Wildmon Then you can go to where? You go to Canada?
Steve Jordahl Yeah. Victoria, are you,
Tim Wildmon Are y' all taking the boat out of Seattle or. Vancouver. Seattle. But you're going to stop in Vancouver?
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon I got you.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon Okay.
Steve Jordahl Actually, yeah.
Tim Wildmon Is this your, I've never. I wanted to do a Alaskan, cruise, but haven't, you know, this first Alaskan cruise.
Steve Jordahl The closest. My wife.
Tim Wildmon Well.
Steve Jordahl M. I thought this was a.
Tim Wildmon m. Family show.
Ed Vitagliano And he's going to a cold place.
Tim Wildmon Let me, refine. Let me re. Rephrase that.
Steve Jordahl Please do.
Tim Wildmon Okay, once I say this, you guys.
Steve Jordahl Will go, you know, Exactly. Now, I know what you're asking now.
Tim Wildmon are you going with a ministry? Are you going just, as individuals?
Steve Jordahl Just as individuals. That's what you meant, just as individuals. We're just taking a vacation and we're.
Tim Wildmon Going on drink if you want to.
Steve Jordahl If I want to, Yeah, I suppose.
Tim Wildmon But you're Baptist, right?
Steve Jordahl I am.
Tim Wildmon I'm only kidding. People don't email me.
Steve Jordahl Settle down.
We're going with Canard, the cruise line
Ed Vitagliano So trouble now.
Steve Jordahl We're going with Canard, the cruise line.
Ed Vitagliano That means lie Canard.
Steve Jordahl Well, no. C A N A R D. Yeah. this is C U N N A R D. This is the. It's it, it might be not so good news because Canard is the company that back in the day about White Line Shipping. You might not know. I think it's White Line. It's White Something Shipping. They own the Titanic.
Ed Vitagliano M. Oh.
Tim Wildmon So is this gonna, is this an omen for you?
Steve Jordahl I hope not. I'm pretty sure that we're gonna be okay. We'll be within sight of the shore the whole time. So if I have to split.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, that'll that helps. As long as you see it. You swim to it off the coast.
Ed Vitagliano In the midst of a pod of orcas.
Tim Wildmon We look forward to your, report your story when you get back.
Steve Jordahl I'm glad to be, Glad to let you in on.
CBS is canceling the Stephen Colbert Show
Ed Vitagliano So is this kind of thing where you're going to go like to a glacier and you can get on the glacier?
Steve Jordahl Well, they don't. No, we're going to Glacier Bay, but I don't think we get off the.
Tim Wildmon Boat, get on a glacier. Like this is Disney World or something.
Ed Vitagliano No, I've talked to people who have gone on Alaskan cruises and they'll take you to a glacier. and then you, you slide down and you can. Well, no, it's, it's, it's flat for miles.
Steve Jordahl Yeah. I, I, if it gets too close to where the glaciers cal is what they're calling when they kind of break off, it can get kind of dangerous. I don't believe they're we're getting off the boat and, but we're stopping in Catch can and another town in Alaska and then Victoria and then Catch it.
Tim Wildmon Catch Cam.
Steve Jordahl Catch a Can, I think it's called.
Ed Vitagliano Tim, keep being a wise guy. And I'm gonna call Vanessa from the west coast office.
Tim Wildmon Right.
Ed Vitagliano And tell them you really want to.
Tim Wildmon Talk about warranty and give him his email.
Ed Vitagliano And give him. Give you your email.
Tim Wildmon No, I will kill somebody. That happens.
Steve Jordahl By the way you guys have been talking.
Tim Wildmon Gladly. I'll gladly go to jail.
Steve Jordahl You guys have been talking about the Colbert Show.
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Steve Jordahl I'm going to miss the Colbert Show.
Tim Wildmon Are you?
Steve Jordahl Yeah, I've been missing it for 10 years and, so I'm going to continue missing it.
Tim Wildmon Stephen Colbert. Oh, yeah. You haven't.
Steve Jordahl Yeah, I've watched it once.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. Listen, the now somebody. Well, CBS is canceling the Stephen Colbert. It's called the Late show, right.
Steve Jordahl Yes, that.
Tim Wildmon Was that the one that David Letterman started?
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Tim Wildmon Okay, so he started it.
Steve Jordahl He left NBC to start it, because.
Tim Wildmon And he used to come on after Jay Leno.
Steve Jordahl Yep.
Tim Wildmon Who, did the Tonight show for many years and then before him, obviously the, Johnny Carson era.
Steve Jordahl But, Jimmy Fallon now has the Tonight Show. It's not going to be for them either, but.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, I don't watch any of them.
Ed Vitagliano I don't watch any of them. But I will say this, Jimmy Fallon is the least objectionable to me.
Tim Wildmon Right.
Ed Vitagliano Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano They were mean spirited and nasty.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon Ah.
Ed Vitagliano And so dismissive and insulting towards conservatives, that I couldn't stand them. Jimmy Fallon, I think he still kind of leans left, but he didn't seem to me to be that, that kind of nasty.
Steve Jordahl He it booked Donald Trump in the, during the first campaign and joked around with him, even pulled his hair with everything. And he got next to canceled. He was, they were not happy with him. You're humanizing him. You're humanizing him. And so then he stopped doing that. He started being a little left leaning. But the conservatives online are now kind of celebrating the Colbert cancellation and everything. But what they're saying is that late night has just stopped being funny altogether. it just, it's just not funny. I mean, yeah, you got the political, but even when it's not political, it's not funny. And they have a clip from the Colbert show to prove it. And it is a stupid little video.
Ed Vitagliano Is this where they danced around?
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano Vaccine.
Steve Jordahl No. Well, okay, that was, that was the Colbert Show.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Steve Jordahl And that was the vac.
Ed Vitagliano When he's on Comedy Central.
Steve Jordahl Yeah, no, that was just tonight. It was 2022. He was, he was in the Tonight show, or the Late show. and very cringe. Oh, it was. But what they have on, the Tonight Show, Jimmy Fallon is, he's dancing around. He and Ferrell. What's his, Colleen E. Montague Farrell. No, the other one.
Tim Wildmon Will Ferrell.
Steve Jordahl Will Ferrell jumping around and they're wearing jeans, cut off jeans and they're calling them jorts. And they just sit around saying, where are my jorts? Where are my jorts? It's the stupidest, least funny thing I've ever seen. And that's what they're using as the example of why late night has gone the way of the dodo bird. Its demise is imminent.
Johnny Carson launched a lot of comedian comedians with his Tonight show
Tim Wildmon Well, Johnny Carson, the reason he was so popular, of course, back in that era talking 6070s even into the 80s, is because there wasn't, there wasn't cable TV yet. It was just now coming, to pass. So there wasn't much competition yet. So you were obviously going to get a larger audience.
Ed Vitagliano Right?
Tim Wildmon So. But Johnny Carson had a, good personality for late night tv. He would poke fun at both sides of the political aisle.
Ed Vitagliano Right.
Tim Wildmon But it was like good natured humor. It wasn't mean spirited.
Ed Vitagliano and he poked fun at himself.
Tim Wildmon Ugly. Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano He would tell kind of corny jokes. They would bomb, but it was all.
Steve Jordahl Part of the deadpan look.
Ed Vitagliano And he would mock himself for the badger.
Steve Jordahl He, he was a king maker. comedians would come on and they would just hope and pray that they would be invited over to the couch. Because if you, if you were invited.
Tim Wildmon Over the couch on the Johnny Carson.
Steve Jordahl Johnny Carson show, comedians would come out.
Tim Wildmon And the Tonight show with Johnny Carson.
Steve Jordahl He, he launched a lot of comedian comedians, including, Seinfeld was early on his. Steve Martin was early.
Ed Vitagliano Jim Carrey.
Steve Jordahl Jim Carrey was early with Carson. So. Yeah.
Cut 10 Fire Aid raised $100 million for wildfire victims in California
Tim Wildmon All right, next story.
Steve Jordahl All right. Hey, there's a currently, have we loaded cut 10? There's a currently, a, little scandal developing in Southern California. I know you're going to be surprised to find that there's a scandal going on in California, but you remember the Palisades fire that happened, earlier. This was earlier this year.
Ed Vitagliano Oh, yeah.
Steve Jordahl Lots of homes, were,
Tim Wildmon Was that last fall already or when was that?
Steve Jordahl I have to look, January.
Ed Vitagliano Done with the story. I'll look it up.
Steve Jordahl Well, so they, they decided to do a celebrity concert, one of these we are the world type things where they invited all these celebrity musicians in and they called it fire aid. And they raised $100 million.
Ed Vitagliano January, January, January this year.
Steve Jordahl Well, one of the people that lost her home is an investigative reporter and someone pointed out, another neighbor of hers pointed out, I haven't seen any of the money. Wonder where it went. So she went looking for the money. This is what she found. Cut 10 Fire Aid that star studded concert that raised $100 million for wildfire victims.
Tim Wildmon But where did all that money go? Investigative journalist Sue Pasco has been digging for answers. All this news money are going to nonprofits and then nonprofits will take care of making sure the money's distributed. Initially they gave $50 million to about 120 nonprofits.
Steve Jordahl I would urge everyone to just go.
Tim Wildmon To the nonprofits that are listed if you want a good laugh.
Steve Jordahl I mean, one of the nonprofits cleans preschool bathrooms. Not a dime has been seen by any of the. Any of the people.
Ed Vitagliano The actual people.
Steve Jordahl Actual people. And now I'm seeing that squatters are coming and setting up tents and mobile homes on the properties of the people who lost their homes. And they can't. The people who own the property if they want, if they wanted to rebuild or whatever, they can't get them off. Gotta get.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, because you gotta, you gotta go through a. Something.
Steve Jordahl I don't.
Ed Vitagliano What is the deal too? I, I, It seems like gov. Governor Gavin Newsom had announced last week. I just saw the headline in this. Wasn't able to actually click through and read the article. Is there a move on the part of California to snap up this property and build public housing?
Steve Jordahl I saw the headline as well and I did not read the article. I think that's correct. I'd have to do a little bit of research to be able to report on it accurately. But I saw that same headline, low income housing, which doesn't surprise anybody. But. Yeah, so.
Ed Vitagliano And they would take it by eminent domain and they would say for, for the public use. You're taking your property.
Steve Jordahl They can do that. Now they, they would compensate them market value. Usually they don't have to, but they, they would. I think these are very rich and pop, you know, powerful people.
Ed Vitagliano And these people don't want to give up that land. They want to rebuild. Yeah, I'm not talking about the wisdom of rebuilding in these.
Steve Jordahl Even if they want to rebuild, remember, they're rebuilding in California. And it takes about four times as much effort to build in California as it does anywhere else in the world because of all the regulations. so things are not going well in the fire country in Southern California.
Ed Vitagliano Well, these kinds of things. And again, it might be a good story if you, if you have time, you got plenty to do. But, the. Remember the fire in Hawaii?
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano Ah, there are a lot of people talking about, okay, what's going to happen to that property now? Is the state going to use eminent domain to snap it up? And I just lost, I just lost touch with the story. I don't know what's happened over there, but it's always very. People get suspicious about the start of the fires. And I'm not trying to promote some kind of conspiracy theory because that's just not me.
Tim Wildmon No, it's not.
Ed Vitagliano But, but it is. And listen, it's hard for me to feel badly for rich elites in California who probably despise my values. but I don't think it's right for the state to Just take that and say, hey, we're going to give it away to somebody else.
Steve Jordahl It's quite socialist of you.
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Tim Wildmon Next story. Steve.
Tim Ferriss: Iranian foreign minister speaks out against Hamas and Hezbollah
Steve Jordahl All right, so the Iranian foreign minister, his name is Abbas, Arachi, sat down, at Fox News with Bret Baer Special Report, and they had a little interview. And he asked him a whole number of questions. But what interested me was the questions he asked. He said, you know, I hear every day, we hear reports of you starting your legislative session with the chance of death to America, death to Israel. What's that about? He said he asked, and this was the answer.
Speaker D Kari, The Supreme Leader and other officials in Iran have always said that death to America is, in fact, debts to the, you know, hegemonic policies of the United States, not to the, people of, United States. Yes, there are some, perhaps radicals, persons or groups, here and there, in different places, inside, outside of Iran, who may say something, like what you said, but that has never been our policy, and they will never be in our policy in the future. This, is not our policy to kill anybody, outside Iran, let alone the president of another country.
Tim Wildmon With all due respect, you're supplying arms and drones and missiles to Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis. The Houthis are firing on US and international ships. Obviously, the actions of Hamas and Hezbollah, no matter what you say their motivation is, are causing death.
Speaker D We believe that, those freedom fighters, let me say, Hamas, Hezbollah, they are fighting for a just cause. And, we have always supported them politically, and, in other ways, because we think that they are, as I said, fighting, for something absolutely legitimate.
Tim Wildmon Even if that fighting, in their words, is about wiping Israel off the face of the map.
Speaker D Well, if, we have never said that they have. Well, that. That is. That is up to them. They are fighting for their own homeland, so they may say anything.
Tim Wildmon All right, listen, just one note here. That was the Iranian foreign minister, correct? He said we've. He said we, talking about Iran, has never said wipe Israel out the face of the earth.
Steve Jordahl That's what he said.
Tim Wildmon Okay, so when you say death to America, death to Israel, could that not be interpreted as wiping them off the face of the earth?
Ed Vitagliano It's clearly a metaphor, Tim. In his words, metaphor.
Tim Wildmon He wants a friendly one.
Steve Jordahl He wants death to the hegemonic policies of the United States.
Tim Wildmon Well, why didn't he say that? That needs to be their opening chant. Death to the hum.
Steve Jordahl Hegemony.
Ed Vitagliano Hegemony.
Tim Wildmon Death to the hegemony. Policies of the United States, not death to America. That way we wouldn't confuse the two or conflict the 2.
Ed Vitagliano Death to hegemonic policies.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, that's what I would say.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon That they need to say.
Steve Jordahl Yeah. Then he said, we never said that. And he said, yeah, but you did. And he goes, yeah. He said, well, some, How did. How did he phrase it at the end?
Ed Vitagliano He said, freedom fighters.
Steve Jordahl Freedom.
Tim Wildmon Hamas and Hezbollah. Yeah, that's what he. So there. There you go.
Steve Jordahl He said, well, some of them may say that.
Ed Vitagliano Well, listen, I'm just gonna say. I'm just gonna say this, and I'm going to be, Be kind here, but radical, radical Islam is a blight on the human race.
Tim Wildmon Right.
Ed Vitagliano Because if you won't condemn Hamas and Hezbollah after the things they've said and the things they've done, then you are no different than any other kind of fascist ideology.
Tim Wildmon And they're for them. he's saying the Iranian government, and we know this, they're kind of out in the open. They're. They're for, Oh, yeah, for the. What we would call terrorists who are trying to wipe out the Jews and.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, no, that's my point.
Tim Wildmon Yes.
Ed Vitagliano Is that Iran is run by radical Islamists.
Tim Wildmon They call them freedom fighters.
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Tim Wildmon That's their idea.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon Hamas and Hezbollah. So.
Ed Vitagliano Well, and the hoodies, which I wish.
Tim Wildmon We don't know about.
Ed Vitagliano Brett Baer was, interviewing him. I wish he had thought to say to the Iranians, well, we applaud the Israeli freedom fighters that, destroyed your, nuclear facilities. They're freedom fighters. What do you think of that? And if you attack any Americans, the freedom fighters that come on our aircraft carriers are going to teach you a thing or two about.
Steve Jordahl Yeah, I don't think Brett Baer would say that, but, yeah, that's what Donald Trump has said for sure. I've been seeing, some pop ups on my Twitter feed of some Muslim radical Muslim voices, in America who have said, we're done wanting to assimilate.
Ed Vitagliano Right.
Steve Jordahl we are one voice as a gal that said, so you're worried about going to prison? Well, if that's the cost for jihad, then go to prison. We're done playing around. Another guy said, we don't want to assimilate, we want to conquer. So it's a very, strident, ah, religion.
Once they claim a country or a territory, they believe it belongs to them forever
And they do. And once they claim a country or a territory, they believe it belongs to them forever.
Ed Vitagliano Right. Well, yeah, that's actually a good point, Tim. because these jihadis need to understand that that's the way we feel about our country. It's ours forever.
Tim Wildmon Forever.
Ed Vitagliano And you ain't getting it right.
Steven Colbert: Everybody should consider being an organ donor
Tim Wildmon Next story.
Ed Vitagliano I'm just suddenly in a bad mood and I don't know why.
Tim Wildmon I'm going to put you in a good Stephen Colbert.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, maybe brought him up and you've.
Tim Wildmon Been in a bad mood ever since.
Steve Jordahl Let me put you in a good mood. You have an organ donation, symbol on your card. You an organ, don't you?
Ed Vitagliano Not.
Tim Wildmon I do.
Ed Vitagliano First of all, nobody wants my organs. I'm. I'm at the age where people go, no, thank you.
Steve Jordahl Yes, some people. I'm there too.
Tim Wildmon But wait a minute, wait a minute. Now who's an organ donor in this room? Let's raise.
Steve Jordahl I'm not.
Tim Wildmon Are you an organ donor? No. Brent, are you?
Steve Jordahl I would.
Tim Wildmon Steven, our.
Steve Jordahl Yeah, I would be. Is it possible you'd be an organ donor and not know?
Ed Vitagliano Well, you want some countries, you won't.
Tim Wildmon Know when they come for them, I'll tell you that. Right. Well, No, I'm kidding. I'm not meaning to, But everybody should consider being an organ donor because I considered it.
Steve Jordahl Wait until you wait until they fix this before you do that, though. This is a cautionary tale.
Tim Wildmon Yes, go ahead.
Ed Vitagliano So make me put me in a good mood. You said.
Steve Jordahl an investigation by the Health Resources and Services Administration, found that, there have been several families that have slated surgeons to attempt to initiate organ retrievals while the patients were still alive.
Tim Wildmon No, no, no. Yes, that and it's what doesn't need to happen.
Steve Jordahl I know.
Tim Wildmon I've told them that. And now you know, I put on that certificate. Not until I said I better be dead.
Ed Vitagliano Well, in defense of those who do this. Okay, what?
Tim Wildmon Do what?
Ed Vitagliano Who. Who, harvest. That's just awful.
Tim Wildmon Change Picard. Now.
Ed Vitagliano Harvest. I don't want to be is. They do need to keep the body alive.
Ed Vitagliano So that the organs don't begin to die. So they have to determine whether a person can come out of whatever state they're in. And if they say no, this person's brain dead, for example. He's not going to make it. But we keep his body alive so we can harvest some stories we should.
Tim Wildmon Just stay away from. I don't want to be too late. Listen, I don't want to be quasi. I don't want to hear him in the background going, why is he dead or not? Take that liver.
Ed Vitagliano He's not saying anything.
Tim Wildmon Take that liver or not.
Steve Jordahl So the study Found that.
Tim Wildmon Listen, we're kidding around here. This. This is. This is a science. Okay? This is a m. Serious medical thing. And listen, Oregon.
Steve Jordahl Don't say there's some stories if you bring on ti. This is how this goes.
Tim Wildmon I know we probably should not do stories like this. because, it's left. It's left to me to. To keep us on task and make this a serious issue. And your eyesight, in all seriousness, people have gained eyesight.
Ed Vitagliano Oh yeah.
Tim Wildmon lives have been saved by heart and other organ transplants that have been donated by people. So it's a yes.
Ed Vitagliano And it is.
Steve Jordahl It is a good thing. The study finds that rushed decision making in organ demands are taking priority over donor safety in Kentucky. I'll say more than 70 cancer organ removals alone should have been stopped sooner than they were because patients showed signs of revival in Kentucky alone, according Where.
Tim Wildmon Who's reporting this now?
Steve Jordahl This is the, Health Resources and Services Administration. Dr. Or Secretary Robert Kennedy is pledging to reform the whole kitten caboodle.
Ed Vitagliano Okay, that's scary.
Steve Jordahl I know.
California's lost 18,000 fast food jobs because they raised minimum wage
That's why I brought it in.
Ed Vitagliano Patience. Sh showed signs of revival and they said, well, too late.
Tim Wildmon Health resources and services administrators keep the art. Administration tends to write a letter. This may be the same group that text me every week.
Ed Vitagliano How are you feeling?
Steve Jordahl That's why you better start answering him. But then. Right.
Ed Vitagliano You got a sec? We want to just say how you're feeling.
Tim Wildmon You're a kidney.
Steve Jordahl He thought it wasn't you thought you needed to not answer them. But maybe you do.
Tim Wildmon Health reserve. Anyway. That's. I did not need to know that story.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, you wanted to go all self righteous on west and I didn't.
Tim Wildmon And then. So, So y' all aren't. Anyway, go ahead. You got about 30 seconds. What do you got left?
Steve Jordahl I got 10 seconds. California's lost, 18, 000 jobs fast food industry because they raised the minimum wage to $20 an hour.
Tim Wildmon Told you. Told you.
Steve Jordahl So they've lost these jobs and they're not getting 18, 000 jobs. It's cost them now.
Tim Wildmon Now the ice cream machine will never work.
Steve Jordahl Never.
Tim Wildmon Because we were having trouble when we had the 18,000 fast food restaurant workers now. Huh?
Steve Jordahl Huh?
Ed Vitagliano Well, you think.
Tim Wildmon Don't tell me their ice cream repairman wasn't canned.
Ed Vitagliano If you think if you.
Tim Wildmon If.
Ed Vitagliano If you're paying them $20 an hour, they should at least keep the ice cream machine working at McDonald's.
Steve Jordahl That's how I look at it. Yeah, a lot of those jobs moved to Tennessee, so it's gonna be interesting to see if Tennessee ice cream machines work.
Tim Wildmon Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano By the way, we had, Kirk Cameron on, who's from California.
Steve Jordahl He's moved.
Ed Vitagliano He moved many years ago to Nashville. He loves. Oh, you heard that? He loves in and out.
Steve Jordahl We both do. He and I are similar fans.
Tim Wildmon All right. probably thankful that this hour and a half is over.
Steve Jordahl Yeah, that's right.
Ed Vitagliano And, that was good radio.
Tim Wildmon We'll move on till tomorrow and have a great day, everybody. Keep listening to American Family Radio.
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