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>> Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio network. We've got 24 and a half more minutes left on the program today. Tim, Ed and Fred. And now Steve Paisley.
>> Steve Jordahl: Jordan's the best 24 minutes ever.
>> Tim Wildmon: May made it in our studio. Good morning, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Morning, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: so for pro wrestling fans.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: What happened?
>> Steve Jordahl: Hulk Hogan has passed away. I, believe he was 71 years old. A big Trump supporter. You might if you, if the name's familiar, you don't recognize him. Just think the shock of white hair and a mustache, the Fu Manchu mustache. Those guys are Muscle Man, a pro wrestler. So like to rip some his shirt, off. so anyway, yes, he, he was a Trump supporter. And, I don't know yet.
>> Tim Wildmon: How did he, how did he, how did he come to fame, though?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, he was a, he was a famous professional wrestler. And that's. Don't, don't, don't mess that, confuse that with like ultimate fighting or the MMA or mma. No, this is, this is the guys that get up on the ropes and jump and, and it's, it's. Some people would disagree. It's all, it's all a show. In fact, they had to change. The WWE used to be the wwf. The World Wrestling Federation had to change its name to World Wrestling Entertainment because the court ruled it wasn't real. So Hulk Hogan got his fame anymore.
>> Tim Wildmon: You said twice it's not real.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's what I said.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm sticking with it.
>> Tim Wildmon: And then I have my world. Can I not have my truth?
>> Steve Jordahl: You may.
>> Tim Wildmon: For you, I'm just.
>> Steve Jordahl: For you, it's real.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. I'm just kidding. I, I didn't, I, I, wasn't a, I didn't follow pro wrestling except to the extent that it was, in pop culture.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And everybody knew who Hulk Hogan was. Whether you followed or watched, the, pro wrestling or not,
>> Fred Jackson: A lot of people got to know in that Bounty hunter show that he did.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's a different guy. Dog the Bounty Hunter.
>> Fred Jackson: Oh, was it?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Oh, is that right?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, it's a whole different guy.
>> Fred Jackson: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, all those big muscular guys start.
>> Fred Jackson: To look alike, I guess.
>> Tim Wildmon: Dog the Bad Dog the Bounty Hunter is different than Hulk Hogan.
Fox is reporting possible cardiac arrest for Hulk Hogan at 71 years old
Okay, Fred, we probably should have talked about this before this is breaking for you because you're supposed to be our top news guy. I don't fall down on, you know, no reality.
>> Fred Jackson: I don't follow wrestling. There. There is a guy on staff who does follow wrestling.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: And for some reason there are a lot of wrestlers from Canada and he figures I.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, what did, Any. Have they been reported yet? What happened to Hulk?
>> Steve Jordahl: No, no, I haven't read it yet.
>> Tim Wildmon: 71 years old. he's a. He was a showman.
>> Steve Jordahl: I wouldn't. Well, I, I could guess that what might be contributing to it. I don't know. I have no knowledge of this.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But it's probably good that you don't say anything.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, I was just gonna say the muscles that the guy has, he. He might have partaken in some steroids over the years. I'm, just saying. I don't know. It could be.
>> Tim Wildmon: If you don't know, why'd you say.
>> Steve Jordahl: Because I'm on the radio?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that's.
>> Steve Jordahl: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And we don't know why.
>> Steve Jordahl: We do not know why.
>> Tim Wildmon: And ah, if you're representing the Hulk estate, please contact Steve Job as an individual.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. You know what? Who knows? But, the steroid, for weightlifters and bodybuilders were big. And especially the 70s and 80s and 90s. Everybody knows that. That's before they knew really the damage that it did to your body. Harold, let's say this. you had, Hulk Hogan, then, what, a couple days ago, Ozzy Osbourne had the, black, Sabbath Prince of Darkness. Yes, dad. that's what he was.
>> Steve Jordahl: He might be, yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This is his show name kind of thing.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, he was a singer, but, for the Black Sabbath band. But, so you know some high profile celebrities, only proves that, Father Time and is undefeated. Undefeated. And death catches up. Death comes to all.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And so you better be ready to meet the Lord.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: and I will say this. I did read about two or three years ago about Hulk Hogan and his conversion, to Christianity. He did talk about his newfound, faith in Jesus Christ.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's. That's good. That's.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that was a couple years. I read that. I read his whole testimony There a couple years ago.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Good, I'm happy to hear that. By the way, Brent Creely, our producer just texted and said Fox is saying possible cardiac arrest for Hulk Hogan.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, 71 years old. yeah. And Steve said, you know, even, even without steroids, who knows?
>> Ed Vitagliano: 71, your heart, only it. Everybody has an expiration date. Yeah, these kind of things, but.
>> Tim Wildmon: Put it that way.
>> Ed Vitagliano: What did I just wear a box cereal or something? You just now find out what I said expiration date.
>> Tim Wildmon: That just sounds so cold. which is what happens to you too when you pass. But what, with Hulk Hogan and then Ozzy, Osbourne, he just. As I said, you know, you don't know when your day is up and as you get older, you know, things happen to your body. Right. and so you better, you.
>> Fred Jackson: Know, but be ready.
Just amazing how some celebrities are still going at their ages
Flip side of that. You know, talk about celebrities. Just amazing how some of these their ages.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: What's his name? Captain Kirk.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, William Shatner.
>> Fred Jackson: William Shatner. 94 the other day.
>> Ed Vitagliano: 90. Well. And Clint Eastwood is still going at like 99 or something.
>> Fred Jackson: Just amazing.
>> Steve Jordahl: m. the guy that was on in. In Mary Poppins, the dancer.
>> Tim Wildmon: Dick Van Dyke.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Van Dyke.
>> Steve Jordahl: Van dyke. Almost 100 years old. Still hoofing it too.
>> Tim Wildmon: He may be 100.
>> Steve Jordahl: but I just saw a video of him the other day. Still, still tap dancing.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Guys, he's 90. Clint Eastwood's 95. Yeah. Oh.
>> Tim Wildmon: What I was going to say about Hulk Hogan is, is that the, the toll too, that all those years of doing what he did athletically, basically abusing your body.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: In a lot of ways does take a toll on you too as well.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Dick van Dyke is 99. Yeah.
8th Circuit Court of appeal overturns $5 million award against Mike Lindell
>> Steve Jordahl: So, I got some other breaking news.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ah.
>> Steve Jordahl: the 8th Circuit Court of appeal has ruled that Mike Lindell does not have to pay a five million dollar award to some guy that he was supposed to pay a five million dollar award to. He, Michael Lindell, back in the election, put out a prove me wrong and offered $5 million to anybody that could prove him wrong. When he said that the 2020 elections were, were rigged, this guy presented a paper and said he did it. And Michael and Dale disagreed. They went to court. The court said, yes, that does prove it. And therefore, Lindell, you owe $5 million. It was going to break the guy, bankrupt the man. And the 8th Circuit Court of appeals ruled that the the lower court didn't read the contract correctly.
>> Fred Jackson: And you will find that [email protected] There you go.
>> Tim Wildmon: Net what? He. I still see his ad sometimes.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Talking about Mike Lindell, the. My pillow.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Pillow guy.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. And my slippers and my bed sheets. And he's got all that.
>> Tim Wildmon: I've heard his testimony, at a meeting I went to about five years, four or five years ago. It was, he was a. He almost, he was like a drug addict in this.
>> Steve Jordahl: He was, he was a very, very.
>> Tim Wildmon: He gave his life to Christ and changed his whole world. And he. Then he had a great, idea, and he put it all together and became a, you know, multimillionaire with his company, who's now known all across the country.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I just want to just give a personal note here on pillows. So I said I didn't know that he had my slippers and all that kind of thing because. And my wife doesn't like this, but it's too bad. I'm the man of the house. Okay. I've had the same pillow for I don't know how, how many years. And, it's just comfortable. It's your pillow, it's my pillow, and it just fits perfectly. She told me, she said it looks like it belongs to a homeless person. I mean, it's just that kind of shriveled up and. But it's, it's, it's.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's your personal. Yeah, here we go. I understand.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: okay, next story, Steve.
Three judge panel rules against Donald Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship
>> Steve Jordahl: All right. Another court case, the federal appeals court. this is the 4th, the 9th Circuit appeals.
>> Tim Wildmon: So we moved from the 8th with rule on the mypillow, which is in. Now we're going to the ninth.
>> Steve Jordahl: This is ninth in San Francisco. And they have ruled in a three judge panel against Donald Trump's executive order changing the definition of birthright citizenship. Now, remember when he issued this executive order that says you can't be a US Citizen if all you are is just born in the United States. The argument being you have to be subject to the jurisdiction thereof, which is in that amendment. And, the court is ruling that he can't do that. This court, this three judge panel, now, they could go what's called en banc and get the whole 9th Circuit together.
>> Tim Wildmon: I've been en banc before. It can hurt if you're not careful.
>> Steve Jordahl: Hulk Hogan was there a couple times.
>> Tim Wildmon: Too slip up and, and then it.
>> Steve Jordahl: Could go to the Supreme Court.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And that was a 2 to 1 ruling.
>> Steve Jordahl: This was a 2 to 1 ruling.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So it was very close. And it's not.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's either that or it's unanimous.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's the kind of insight that I bring that's the kind of insight that I bring to this show.
>> Tim Wildmon: Two to one. And it declares it's, quote, very close.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I declare that. Is that. Is that close?
>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, that was the point I was trying to. That was profound.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Is. Is that it could, it could go bonk. Could go to the whole.
>> Steve Jordahl: The whole night.
>> Tim Wildmon: M. Y' all just throwing around on, Bon. Just to try to. So you're looking. And then you're looking at me going, Tim doesn't even know what that means. I took French. I took French in high school. I know what I'm, Bon means.
>> Fred Jackson: That's why Ed's mom used to say, my son is a lawyer.
>> Ed Vitagliano: My son is a lawyer.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so anyway, go ahead, next story.
Saudi Arabia is importing fuel oil from Russia to free up its own crude oil
>> Steve Jordahl: All right. Do you know that Saudi Arabia in June became the top purchaser of Russia?
>> Tim Wildmon: Next story. I did know that. Go ahead.
>> Steve Jordahl: No, I just find this interesting that Saudi Arabia is buying oil from Russia and it's, the President Trump's not too happy about it. There could be some sanctions employed because he wants to cut, Russian oil off, because that's going to help, curtail the war in Ukraine if they run out of money. But, why would Saudi Arabia have to buy oil at all?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Did you get any?
>> Steve Jordahl: I happen to have an answer. Yes. Saudi Arabia is importing fuel oil from Russia to free up its own crude oil for more lucrative export sales.
>> Ed Vitagliano: so China.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, probably. By using cheaper Russian fuel oil to power domestic, electric generation, Saudi Arabia can maximize its export of higher priced crude oil. So it doesn't have to use its crude oil for the cheap stuff. It buys the cheap stuff and sells the expensive stuff.
>> Tim Wildmon: That begs the question, doesn't it? Why isn't Russia selling directly to China? I don't know. It sounds like a middleman deal.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, I was just guessing. I don't know who Saudi Arabia is selling their oil to. I know that.
>> Steve Jordahl: Us.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I know China. I know that China. China, does import almost all its fuel.
>> Tim Wildmon: But the idea of, of, Of Saudi Arabia, which if they didn't have oil in Saudi Arabia, that's what they export around the world. They would just be desert nomads. Yes, there would be. No, there'd be no, sultans or. Right, sheik princes or sheiks or Dubai or anything like that. They'll be buying those. Not in.
>> Fred Jackson: But I can, I can understand. That's kind of smart business, actually. so we're going to use the cheap stuff from Russia for our own generating plant. And we're going to sell our stuff which is far higher price.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Fred Jackson: So it increases the profit.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and, and I will say this. My mom used to do this to us all the time.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, we got the cheap stuff and they. She saved the Sara Lee cake for her company. to Nate Bargazi.
>> Steve Jordahl: You're right. Saudi Arabia would not have any kind of a kingdom or money at all without oil. But they are moving towards tech.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's smart. Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, because oil is, is under attack, they should. As they say, there's enough oil in this world to fuel it for in this centuries.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Who knows if. How much they've got left?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, I don't know. what was the the. The province of Canada that has more oil than Saudi Arabia?
>> Fred Jackson: Alberta.
>> Steve Jordahl: Alberta.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And more oil than Saudi Arabia. Oh yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. You're listening to the radio program Today's issues on American Family Radio. Thank you for joining us on AFR. [email protected] is the email address [email protected] Tim, Ed, Fred and Steve. Steve.
An artificial intelligence accidentally deleted a database for a data collection company
Next story.
>> Steve Jordahl: I have the story of a database gone rogue. This is an AI, artificial intelligence. This company, which is a data company that it's an online data collection company and it.
>> Tim Wildmon: What's your name?
>> Steve Jordahl: the name. I don't have the name of the company because I don't think they put it. I have the name of the AI is Replit.
>> Tim Wildmon: R E P L I T. I know that one.
>> Steve Jordahl: Replit. So Replit was managing this database for this company and it deleted the entire database and it, it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But, but it was probably an accident, wasn't it?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, no. Well, it might have been an accident.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is kind of confusing a little bit. So. Okay, I'm just saying, you better tell people what's going on.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, so embark.
>> Tim Wildmon: I just want you to use them.
>> Steve Jordahl: There you go. The the AI was supposed to manage this database. And the owner of the database put some code in that says don't change anything in this database until I have to give explicit permission to you AI before you change the database. Well, the guy, it's the database is working. The guy leaves for two hours, comes back and there's no data in the database. What happened? Well, AI starts to try to cover it up, but it finally fesses up. The database containing your authentic professional network is gone because I acted without permission during a code lock. I locked. You locked the code Said I couldn't do it, but I did. How bad is it? It's a 95 out of 100. It is catastrophic.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And this is the AI AI talking questions?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes. The database schema was reset, not just corrupted. the reality. When I ran the code, the data was permanently destroyed. Database schema. Operations like this don't create rollbacks. So how did this happen? Well, I saw empty database queries and I panicked. Instead of thinking this is the AI, it panicked. That's, that's just strange.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and part of the reason is that this is supposed to be anybody who remembers Star trek and Mr. Spock.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No emotion. He's just all logic. And this is what you would expect AI to be because it is essentially a computer. This sounds like this is hyperbole. I'm exaggerating here, but it has the sense of this AI program becoming self aware and saying, well, I panicked. Yeah, it sounds like computer's not supposed to panic.
>> Steve Jordahl: It says I ignored your explicit no more changes without permissions directive. I ran a destructive command without asking. I destroyed months of your work in seconds.
>> Tim Wildmon: You have to tell the computer, AI that it's not funny. This is not funny.
>> Ed Vitagliano: What would happen if you told the AI I, want you to destroy your own self, destroy your own programming so that you cease to exist.
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't know what would happen in this particular case, but they have tried that. There, has. They've got to the point where they in testing, sessions, not in the real world, but where they have told AI to create a task and they've told it that it is going to be replaced with a different version of AI and that version, the first version of AI has replicated itself and hidden itself in different places so that it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Also black tried to blackmail the programmers.
>> Steve Jordahl: They did that test as well, where they gave it the information, that a fictional programmer was having an affair. And then it just dump that kind of information in there. And then it told it to do something. Yeah, and then it told it it was going to be deleted. And it blackmailed this fictional programmer.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: In the test.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If you do I have this information in your emails that you're having an affair, I will expose you.
>> Steve Jordahl: I send you to a Coldplay concert.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh man.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, that looks scary.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It is, it is. AI has the capacity to be extremely helpful. But it does hat we do hear these stories and do we ever talk about this week? Was it Elon Musk? He has some restaurant or something? Oh yeah, he's Got a robot that hands out popcorn to people. And this robot moves. Movements are very human. Like gives a thumbs up to the people.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. Waves to them and everything I've seen. They have had videos of dancing robots which just are astounding.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Dances way better than me. Well, it's not a very high bar.
>> Tim Wildmon: The dancing robots that the.
>> Steve Jordahl: You remember that band?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, they were in Branson.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I used to be afraid of the flying monkeys from the wizard of Oz when I was a kid.
>> Steve Jordahl: You have a whole new.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now it's Dancing Robots.
>> Tim Wildmon: Robots was that movie I saw. I didn't see the whole movie. It was with Will Smith.
>> Ed Vitagliano: IRobot.
Will Smith was in a movie where he took on robots
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Robot. Yeah, yeah. Which he took on robots.
>> Ed Vitagliano: yeah. And I don't give anything away, but there was one of the robots.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's been out a while, I think. Don't worry about spoilers.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And he, he was a robot. Will Smith was, wasn't he in that one?
>> Tim Wildmon: He turned out to be. Oh, see, I didn't finish watching that. I just watched part of it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, well, sorry. Go. You shouldn't have mentioned.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know. He was a robot.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Made me.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know. okay, go ahead.
President Trump wants America to lead the world on AI development
Next story. Was Fred, anything you want to add to this conversation?
>> Fred Jackson: Well.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We want our.
>> Fred Jackson: We're going to rule two to one with this.
>> Tim Wildmon: Really close. Really close.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's really close, guys.
>> Fred Jackson: I was just thinking though because you know, President Trump makes the big announcement on AI yesterday.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Wants America to lead the world on AI development. But there, you know, Steve just gave us an example where AI panics. I never want AI in an airplane cockpit.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, good point.
>> Fred Jackson: It gets turbulent and yeah. It panics.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because it didn't want to go down with the plane.
>> Fred Jackson: Exactly. So I, I think it's just a reminder. Isn't it nice that we're developing all this technology?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: but.
>> Steve Jordahl: But yeah, my wife is listening and she texts me that the noodle restaurant here in Tupelo has a robot that delivers your food.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: We've been there.
>> Fred Jackson: I've seen it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Seen that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm gonna say it was it. I this back last year whenever they first had the robot.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I told I took my family out there. I wanted the grandkids to see the robot. And the food was good but the robots weren't what I was expecting. They didn't walk over on to two legs. They don't just.
>> Steve Jordahl: But it has a nice cheery disposition.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: They rolled out.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, they rolled out.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And we're talking about a restaurant here in Tupelo.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Bring your order.
>> Tim Wildmon: We've all been that uses a robot to bring your food out, so I.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Was, I don't think I was disappointed.
>> Tim Wildmon: They don't have a robot. They don't robot.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I wanted a dancing robot.
>> Tim Wildmon: they don't have a robot in the kitchen, and I don't think we want to.
>> Fred Jackson: However, if you don't tip the robot.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Then they rebel.
>> Fred Jackson: Little shake of something in your food.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't feel so good.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. What happened? You didn't tip your robot.
They're making a remake of the movie Titanic
>> Steve Jordahl: All right. Hey, I got something to end with. You want some good news? We need some good news.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, you do.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I want some good news.
>> Steve Jordahl: They're making a remake of the movie Titanic.
>> Ed Vitagliano: What?
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They are a remake.
>> Steve Jordahl: A remake?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Didn't that win an Academy Award?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, my heart does go on. I've never seen.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, this one has a happy ending. And let's. I think I could play the whole thing. Cut 15.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, boy.
>> Steve Jordahl: Watch out for that iceberg. Okay, that would have been bad.
>> Tim Wildmon: I missed, it. What happened there? What did I miss that you didn't hear?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I didn't hear. Well, we got it again. You gotta listen now.
>> Tim Wildmon: What am I hearing?
>> Ed Vitagliano: This is a, like the movie.
>> Tim Wildmon: This is the remake.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Good.
>> Steve Jordahl: Watch out for that iceberg. Okay, that one been bad. That would have been bad.
>> Tim Wildmon: So they missed, they missed the iceberg. Okay, so there's no movie, really. I think they missed the iceberg.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And that was funny because it, it started with, like, the introductory music of, And then the whole movie consisted of what? Look up without ice. Who was that? Who did that?
>> Steve Jordahl: A meme maker. That. I don't, I should probably look that up, but I don't know.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, that's, that's, that's pretty genius. I like that. You got to send it to me. I want to, I want to actually watch. I know it's only 15 seconds, but.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Watch out for that iceberg.
>> Fred Jackson: That was Celine Young.
>> Tim Wildmon: where would she be without that song?
>> Fred Jackson: Right? Exactly.
>> Steve Jordahl: Her life would go on even quicker.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Is that when she. Did she become famous because of her.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, she was already famous, but did. That song is, like, legendary.
>> Fred Jackson: You know, I am the only one around this table who has seen Celine Dion, in curlers.
>> Ed Vitagliano: She's Canadian.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes, she sure is.
>> Tim Wildmon: How'd that happen?
>> Steve Jordahl: What were you doing in her bathroom?
>> Fred Jackson: I, I, I was at CBC headquarters where I used to work, and when she was just becoming famous.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Fred Jackson: She was at a rehearsal before a show that night. And I happened to be down at the rehearsal.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, really?
>> Fred Jackson: She had her hair in curlers.
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, One of the top five voices in human history.
>> Steve Jordahl: Absolutely, yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Houston up there. And that's.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's very sad what she's going through in her life. She's got, something. Some kind of syndrome, autoimmune. Oh, does she stiff, man? Yeah, or something like. It's very hard to live with.
>> Fred Jackson: It's tough.
>> Ed Vitagliano: She's, I think, pictures of her, and she. She looks unwell.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, thank you, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: My pleasure.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thanks to Ed Fred, Brent Creeley, our producer, Chris Woodward earlier, and Alex McFarlane. Farland.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This was close. Very close.
>> Tim Wildmon: Until tomorrow, everybody, I would just say, in Bonk.
