The month of June has been hijacked by the anti Christian culture

>> Jeff Chamblee: The month of June has been hijacked by the anti Christian culture to show their pride in something God calls an abomination. When you support afr, you help us continue to stand for godly values and provide the resources for you to stay in the know about the enemy's tactics. To say thank you for your gift this month, we'll give you the booklet Inside the LGBTQ push of the 1990s. To help strengthen your convictions, just go to afr.netoffers afr.net offers welcome to today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day.

>> Jeff Chamblee: Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to True, not to trivia, but to, today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network on this Tuesday, June 10, 2025. Thanks for listening to AFR. I'm Tim with, Wesley. Good morning. Wesley Wellman.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: Good morning. Chris Woodward.

>> Chris Woodward: Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: And joining us in Kansas City is our good friend Ray Pritchard. Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: Good morning, Tim. How you doing today?

>> Tim Wildmon: Almost had to put you on the injured reserve list. Looking at. Looking at your forehead here on the video.

>> Tim Wildmon: I have got a big bandage on my forehead because, you know, there are times in life. And Chris, you pointed this out to me earlier. You know, normal people don't do what I did. I was trying to repair a plug, a smart plug, you know, in my wall. It's right behind my recliner. Normal people would pull the recliner out, but for some reason, I climbed up on the recliner, leaned up over the back of it, tried to reach down, lost my balance, started rocking back and forth, called for my wife. She couldn't get there in time. And my head went over and I hit that. You know, the smart plug protrudes from the wall. I hit my forehead on it. And, great was the fall and the blood thereof.

>> Chris Woodward: I related to that so much. He did what I would have done in that instance.

>> Tim Wildmon: You have stitches, did you?

>> Tim Wildmon: No, I just looked at it and then, you know, I did what people do today. I went to my two medical advisors, Dr. Grok and Dr. Chatgpt. Actually, I took a picture and sent it up to Grok and Chatgpt and I. There's nothing really to, But I gotta be. Marlene said it looks like you got a flamingo carved into the middle of your forehead. Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: After it was cleaned out. That you're saying that's what the cut looked like.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ah, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And then she suggested, you know, maybe we should Put six. Six. That's not going to help me at all if I put 666 on my band aid.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, nobody want to sit by you on the airplane. That's.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's not going to work at all. And I got to go preach next week at Cannon beach in Oregon, and I'm doing the best I can to get healed up between.

>> Tim Wildmon: Now, I was tracking with you there, and then you said, balanced on the recliner.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, sir.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is that what you said?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, that's exactly what I said.

>> Tim Wildmon: And you're six, four, six, five, right?

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. That's right. And I had my head over, you know, where you lean your head back, but I was, I was up over it this way, you know, and my head trying to reach down, and that's precarious because you. I found that you can lose your balance really fast. It started rocking back and forth. Martin couldn't help me.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is that when you knew? I'm, about to.

>> Tim Wildmon: I knew I was, I was a dead duck and there's nothing to do but hit that plug. Other than that, I'm fine.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: About five months ago, I was in my garage, and I had, I have a couple shelves in the, in a closet in, within the garage, and I had stored a couple 12 volt batteries on the top shelf. And I was reaching to pull my cooler off. And when I pulled my cooler off, one of the batteries came with it and hit me right up right, right where you got it. And I ended up having to get five or six stitches. but then I remember, then I learned from there. Don't put heavy weighted stuff above eye level.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So that was.

>> Tim Wildmon: I tell you what, fellas, this is a lesson to us all. You start getting up out of your recliner to do anything, right, you're risking injury.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.

>> Wesley Wildmon: standing recliner.

>> Tim Wildmon: Stand the recliner.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's the lesson for today.

>> Tim Wildmon: Don't chance it. That's what I say.

>> Chris Woodward: Are you going to get up and do anything today? I could, but I could also hurt myself if I did it.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's very dangerous.

When hard times come, be a student, not a victim, Ray says

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, all right, Ray, if you would give us a good word from the scriptures this morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: This is not unrelated. Psalm 119, verse 171 says, it was good for me to be afflicted, that I might learn your statutes. And, we all go through these times, and it could be much more serious than his hitting your forehead. We go through cancer, we go through death of loved ones. And Suffering. So many different things afflict us along the way. And the psalmist says, it was good for me to be afflicted. Most of us don't look at life that way. We think it's unfair. It's not right. I shouldn't have to go through these hard times. And the psalmist says, no, if you understand what God is saying, you will say it is good because it taught me something I couldn't learn any other way. And I was thinking about my friend Jim Warren, from Chicago, now with the Lord. And Jim was for years Primetime America on the Moody Network and had been closely associated with a church I pastored there in Oak Park. And one day I was spending time with Jim, and he said, ray, I got something for you you need to think about. I said, what is it? Instead, I heard this today. When hard times come, be a student, not a victim. Oh, my. When hard times come, be a student, not a victim. Victim says, why did this happen to me? A student says, what can I learn from this? Victim looks at everyone else and says, life isn't fair. A student says, what happened to me could have happened anyone. A victim would rather complain than find a solution. A student has no time to complain because he's busy making the best of the situation. A victim believes God is trying to punish him. A student understands that God allows hard times to help him grow. And here's the last one. A victim believes God has abandoned him. But a student says, I see God's hand in everything, including the worst moments of life. let me just say it to you this way. To say, when hard time times come, be a student, not a victim, is to say nothing more than what Paul said in Romans 8:28. For we know a lot of things in this life, friends. We don't know. A lot of things confuse us and sometimes disappoint us and perplex us. For we know what all things, not some things, not even most things, but all things in God's plan are working together for the good of those who love him. So here's the good word for today. When hard times come, be a student, not a victim. And God will teach you through the hard times of life, things you couldn't learn any other way.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amen. Amen. All right. thank you for that lesson from the Word of God there. and, we. We, pray that everybody will adhere to that and learn from that. Yes.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay. I hesitated to do this because I know you're going to look at me and go, not again. But I've Got a baseball analogy.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well, you just threw us a curveball here on the show, but if you want to use the baseball analogy right ahead.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I didn't want to.

>> Chris Woodward: Hope you don't.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I know we, I know we got to get to the news and I don't want to.

>> Tim Wildmon: And it's all good news.

>> Chris Woodward: Don't worry. You, me, I'm.

>> Tim Wildmon: We're packed.

>> Tim Wildmon: Nothing but good news.

>> Tim Wildmon: We're chock full, full of good news to bring forth.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And I'm not, I'm not going to make that devotion any better. But, but to help some people or you know, is that I often tell our, the team that I coach that there's a lot that you can learn from losing because other. But the reason is, is because there's so much if you win, there's so much in a victory that you would otherwise not accept if you had lost. If you think about it that way and so always winning, you begin to get, ah, complacent and you don't realize that you're doing things that you otherwise, if you had lost, you would not have accepted. That's another way of saying, agreeing with Pastor Ray Pritchard here, that having the, having the attitude of what can we learn from this? What can we learn from our mistake? What can we learn from something that didn't go our way? Whether that be at our attitude, whether that be, something that we should physically change or mentally change. but, but having that, that student that learnt, wanting to learn, from losing, what I call it, having that type of attitude will take you a long ways in life. And it's a biblical principle as we just saw there in the scripture. So that's what I wanted to add to the devotion this morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I agree with everything you said, but I still want to win.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh yeah, I know, man. I'm with you. Yeah, I'm with you 100%. This is after the fact. This is after the fact.

>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, I'm just kidding because, you ever. Everybody's gonna. Some people win more than others.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: See Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State. But, but you're right. Failure and not, having success. And in sports losing you can often.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Learn a lot about in order to.

>> Tim Wildmon: Win, in order to help you the next time around or improve your life.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, I related to that and it was funny you mentioned what you just did, Tim, because last year our college football team was not doing so well and it got to a point in the season where we were like, well, we didn't lose by that much, like we were finding a moral victory, in our many defeats.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Chris, what's your first?

Another 2,000 National Guard troops are heading to Los Angeles to combat anti-ice riots

>> Chris Woodward: Alright, I want to point everybody's attention to AFN Net where news director Fred Jackson posted this story today. Another 2,000 National Guard troops along with 700 marines are heading to Los Angeles on orders from President Donald Trump aimed at putting an end to those anti ice riots in the Los Angeles area. This would be on top of the initial 2000 or so guard troops that Trump ordered to start arriving over the weekend in Los Angeles. President Trump says he has no other choice but to do this. These anti ice riots have gotten out of hand. And even, even though people like Governor Gavin Newsom there in California have filed a lawsuit saying Trump is wrong to do this. Trump says no, I'm in the right. And I've got a couple of clips here between Fox's Peter Doocy and Trump talking about this situation. Let's begin with this exchange. It's Doocy and Trump talking about that Lawsuit from Newsom.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Clip 1 and right around the time that we were walking in here, the governor and the state attorney general said that they're going to sue you for sending the National Guard. And they're saying there's no invasion, there's no rebellion. The President is trying to manufacture chaos and crisis on the ground for his own political ends. Federalizing the California National Guard is an abuse of the President's authority under law.

>> Donald Trump: Well, you know, it's interesting, you watch the same clips as I did. Cars burning all over the place, people rioting. And by the way we stopped it, we were able to make it much better, but it still looked pretty bad. And in watching clips last night, people were saying this is really a big problem. And until we went in, if we didn't do the job, that place would be burning down just like the houses burned down. They were in big trouble last night, Peter. You know it. And the night before and the night before that.

>> Chris Woodward: Now before we get your guys thoughts on that, I want to play another clip here. It's a much shorter clip but it's where Doocy brings up the fact that Newsom is saying Trump wants to have civil war on the streets of the US Clip to what do you make.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Of the fact that he says you want a civil war on the streets of America?

>> Donald Trump: No, that's just the opposite. I don't want a civil war. civil war would happen if you left it, if you left it to people like him.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay, go ahead.

>> Chris Woodward: No, I Mean, that's. I threw a lot at you there.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, I was going to say not. Not commenting on the civil, war comment, but commenting on just the. The first, Gavinism, and that's that. I wonder what it would look like if Trump and his team didn't do anything. because on one hand, you don't want to see Americans that. That are otherwise not participating in this suffer. However, if the leadership, local leadership and the state leadership isn't wanting any help and wanting it to stay like it is, another part of me is like, okay, we'll let them make the bed. Sleep in the bed they made, if that makes sense. So that's my reaction to it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Dad.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Does that make sense, though? I mean, because you do want. You don't want the people suffering around them that are not. That are not wanting the riots, but at the same time, they're not wanting help either. They meaning.

>> Tim Wildmon: Gavin, just remember what started this. Okay? You have to go back to last week. I'm not sure what day it was. Anyway, ice, the immigration. Is it called Immigration Customs Enforcement?

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. That is. Everybody knows this, but I'll just repeat it. Everybody knows that is the agency, the federal government agency, law enforcement agency, that's responsible for arresting people who are in our country illegally, and having them deported. All right? So when they have to go arrest people for criminal activity or whatever, they're involved in things that, you know, that are criminal in nature. I mean, that's what. That's. That's what they're primarily doing here. So. But when they go into. They're going into communities now where they're having to. And let's face it, when ICE goes in, it's just like when the FBI goes in or when your local sheriff SWAT team goes to do something, or even on, in a, side of the road, sometimes we see police officers having to, physically accost a cost. Not in a bad way, but, I mean, manhandle a situation. We've all seen that before. And that. That, rarely looks good. Okay. When you see people having to be. So when ICE goes in, they go in. And in the case here in Los Angeles, well, they were met with. People got angry and upset because of what they were doing. Okay. Job. and these are mostly people, I suspect, who don't believe in, immigration laws.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. They don't care. and so they are. They began to, attract more people who believe like them, and they became violent, and they began to clash with the ice. The ICE couldn't was prepared, I don't think, for this kind of thing. So they called in the sheriff's department, they called in the police department, Los Angeles. And then the riots, it became like BLM riots started to break out to anarchy. So that's when President Trump authorized the use of the National Guardsman. Two thousand, I think. Is that how many, Chris? Yes, 2,000. To keep law and order. Because these people are starting to block streets, and highways with their physical bodies. They were starting to. They're throwing bricks, bricks at cops and ICE agents.

Ray Lopez: Governor Gavin Newsom wanted confrontation between ICE and protesters

They're doxing them. They're. They're starting, they're acting violently.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. And. And so President, Trump said, no, we're going to go and support the ice, and the police, and we're going to use even National Guard to, crack down on these folks.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's a great synopsis of what's going on here. And Gavin Newsom saying, here we don't want help. So that's, that's where I, Half of me is like, well, there's innocent people right here. Whether you like or not, we need to do something. But on the other hand, it's like, well, if this is what you want.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, Governor Gavin. Gavin Newsom and Mayor Bass of Los Angeles. And I would say, I don't, I don't know if I'm accurate on this, but I'm going to go ahead and say this anyway. The majority of the citizens in the state of California don't want, ICE to come arrest people. When you say, well, how do you say that and how do you know that? Because they vote for it.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right?

>> Tim Wildmon: California, Los Angeles, California, the city of Los Angeles, California, the state. They are sanctuary places.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right?

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. not. And obviously not all Californians agree with that. There's some conservative parts of California, maybe Orange county, parts of Central Valley, Northern California, except for the Bay Area, but they're outnumbered.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: and so, Ray, I'd like you to comment on this. So the people of California, a majority of them vote for Democrats and progressive politics, what they would call progressive politics. And so they, they don't care how many people come into their state and illegally. And, they don't care. They don't. Now, they would say, yes, we, we. We don't care about that, but we care about them conducting criminal activity. We would be opposed to that. But anyway, thus the clash between ICE and, and the people, who are protesting the arrest by ice. Go ahead, Ray.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, this whole thing that's happening in Los Angeles, California, Generally, it's inevitable. It's if. Tim, first of all, that's great way to set the whole thing up. In a way, this is what California wanted. They created a situation in which this was inevitable. And the difference between Donald Trump and, Joe Biden or Barack Obama, or, let's be honest, guys, with some of his Republican predecessors, the difference between Donald Trump and the others is he will do something. He will actually activate the National Guard and send them in to restore order in one of America's major cities. Look, we all agree, don't we? protest is fine. You don't have to agree with the Trump administration's policies. In fact, you may vehemently disagree. And it's an American right, to, to march. It's an American right to hold up signs and chant and all the rest. But all of that ends when you have decided to start throwing rocks at the police cars, when you are blocking lawful traffic, when you are setting cars on fire, when you're setting buildings on fire. I'm sorry, we've come to the end. So, I think actually this is what Gavin Newsom wanted to have happen. And the only difference is we have a man in the White House who finally will do what he said he would do. Unlike some predecessors who clucked about this kind of stuff but would do nothing about it.

>> Chris Woodward: There are some people that have pointed out that, in the early 1990s, near the end of his time in office, President George H.W. bush mobilized the National Guard to respond to the LA riots in 1992. but time magazine is one of a few news outlets out there today saying things like, well, that's different.

>> Tim Wildmon: So, hey, let me ask you this. I saw this last night, and this was on cnn. You wonder, well, how is this looking to the American people?

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: And talk, about that, if you will.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes. I actually just share this on our Today's Issues Facebook page. So, it'll be there for people to read. But CNN's top data analyst revealed how Americans really feel about President Donald Trump's approach to immigration. After the president sent federal troops to Los Angeles in the face of those violent riots. Harry Enton said, this is Trump's net approval rating on immigration. He said this on air. He compared Trump having a negative 21 approval rating in June 2017 to a current plus one rating on the issue. He said, quote, it's gone up like a rocket now versus eight years ago during Trump's first term. There is no issue on which Trump is doing so Much better than what he, than he was in his first term on the issue of immigration. So what does that mean in English? CNN reveals how Americans really feel about Trump's response to things like the LA riots. And they like it, even though Democrats out there are on television. And I can play clips here, but Democrats are saying, Trump's terrible. He's a dictator. He shouldn't be doing these kinds of things. Apparently American people which vote like what Trump's doing.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. so, so you get this again. This is cnn, and they're saying the American, people, a majority of them approve of his actions.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Still. Because this is what he's, this is what he was, elected on. He started at day one. We are a couple months into his term, and he's still doing what he said he's going to do. And, and the people. It was that, it. Was that a nationwide polling.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. Nation.

The nationwide polling still approves him deporting illegal immigrants

The nationwide polling still approves him deporting illegal immigrants.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, let me just read for you how the other side feels. Okay. Because we're in the feelings. I just want to.

>> Chris Woodward: Right there.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. I'm not saying this is right, but I'm just saying this is how these people think. I'm quoting what's. The seiu. International President April Verrett said on Monday that the labor. It's a labor union.

>> Chris Woodward: It is Service Employees International Union.

>> Tim Wildmon: Labor union, that, quote. Thousands of workers remain unjustly detained and separated from their families. At this very moment, immigrant communities are being terrorized by heavily militarized forces, armed forces, the Trump regime. Calling in the National Guard is a dangerous escalation to target people who disagree with them. It is a threat to our democracy. The federal government should never be used as a weapon against people who disagree with them. American, is a nation of immigrants. Immigration, immigrant workers are essential to our society. Feeding our nation, caring for our elders, cleaning the workplaces and our buildings and our, and building our homes. Immigrants are scientists, they're teachers. See, this is where he's. This kind of thinking gets out of whack. everybody knows America is a country of immigrants. And I don't know one person that's opposed to that.

>> Chris Woodward: If somebody doesn't know that, I want all my tax dollars that have gone towards education.

>> Tim Wildmon: We all know American is. America is a melting pot and is a nation of immigrants. We also know that you're supposed to come here legally, not illegally. Why don't you put that in there? And you're in your, in your comments because, so two things can be true at one time. And nobody's. Nobody I know says, we're not a nation of immigrants nor we don't. We welcome. I think we, naturalize. That what you call it, Ray, when you make, I think we naturalize a million people a year or something, it's.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Higher than that and then it's per capita. Per capita we're in the top in the country, in the world.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I know. We welcome a lot of people legally.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Every day, even in spite of the illegal ones.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. And so this was escalated because ICE went in to arrest, some people area in a sanctuary area and they are, some people are upset over that. Ah, very upset. So we shall take a break right here. You're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. But this is getting to be a real, heated standoff between Governor Newsom in California and President Trump. All right, we'll be back momentarily. Stay with us.

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Tim Ferriss welcomes American Family Radio podcast host Sandy Rios

>> Tim Wildmon: Welcome back, everybody, to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to afr. so, we welcome Sandy Rios to the program and Sandy is the host of Sandy Rios 24 7, the podcast that we offer here on afr.net a very popular podcast, afr.net Sandy has three shows a week on, Sandy Rios. It's called Sandy Rios 24 7. And she joins us now. Good morning, Sandy.

>> Sandy Rios: Good morning, Tim. How are you doing?

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, how about you? How's the. How's the podcast? How you liking that now? You've been doing that two years now.

>> Sandy Rios: Oh. Or three, I'm pretty sure. I don't know. I don't know if it's two or three years, but I do know that I like it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, it's different than the morning. You know, for 10 years you got up and did the live morning show for us here on American Family Radio. Now, the podcast. So the podcast world's a little different. You have a little bit more flexibility, right?

>> Sandy Rios: Yes, we do. And, you know, it's long form. I do long form right when I used to do the morning, you know, I get. I'd have a stack of news you can't imagine. I read all of that and then I distill, distill, distill. But it was, That's fun and exciting. I'm kind of wired that way, but I think my wiring is kind of getting a little frazzled, so it's better for me to do long form right now.

Tim Ferriss: Standoff between federal forces and protesters in Los Angeles escalating

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, what about the, We've been talking about the, situation in Los Angeles, California, obviously, and the, standoff now between federal forces or the National Guard, it's risen to this level. And the rioters out there, the protesters, I don't know what's going to happen today. Hopefully it'll de. Escalate. But what are your thoughts on what's happening out there and how it's being handled?

>> Sandy Rios: Well, I love how it's being handled. I mean, I'd like to see, I'd like to. I think the police and the National Guard and all of them have to be more aggressive. I realize it's really, really a horrible position to be in because you are in a hostile. It's like a hostile country. You've got, these millions of, illegal and legal immigrants that have been allowed into California. You have a group called La Raza, that's been around for years, and that's. It means the race. And this particular. And they are communists. And this particular group wants to take back all of the land that the United States, they think took from Mexico. That includes Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, all of California and more. and they Hate capitalism. And so that's part of it. I heard one of one of those guys, make quite a speech. He had, you know, he speaks perfect American English because he's been here a long time, but he hates this country. And then you've got now the Islamists, the pro Palestinians joining in. You've got antifa, dressed in black, you know, really trained to kill and be stealthy and destroy. and then you've got just gang members that are out on the streets in la. And then, you've got a mayor, Karen Bass, who herself has a deep history in communism. I don't know if you guys. I don't know if you've come across that story, but Karen Bass was very strongly connected to Cuba's Castro. I used to fly down there all the time. She was an official part of a group that actually was the birth group to the Weather Underground, which later became the radical communist group in the United states during the 80s 70s and 80s that bombed the Capitol, that killed policemen. Bernadine Dorn was the leader of that and, Bill Ayers. So Karen Bass is part of that. She is a radical, radical leftist communist going back to her youth. So that's your mayor. And then you've got Gavin Newsom who's like, you know, not, trying to. Not doing anything. I guess he sent out some okay to some Los Angeles police finally to get into the fray. but he is trying to. He's now suing President Trump for bringing in defense of the Los Angeles and the people of Los Angeles. So it's, it's. It's really such a dangerous, sad situation, Tim. But I would like to see, our guys, and I mean the guys on the side of law and order even crack down more. They just need to. It has to be punishment or it's not. It's never going to stop.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, it's. It's a very fluid situation and volatile. We'll see what happens today. Hopefully, the over the overwhelming. I say overwhelming. That's what it appears to be. Show of force, by the National Guardsmen and the, LA Police, L.A. county Sheriffs, their right police officers will stop this.

>> Sandy Rios: And the Marines. And the Marines.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, the Marine. Are the Marines coming in?

>> Sandy Rios: Yes. Yeah, they're sending them down from camp.

>> Tim Wildmon: We're going to talk to Abraham Hamilton III tomorrow. Lawyer, constitutional lawyer. Because I always understood that the, I guess we'll talk about it right now, since you mentioned it, Sandy, but I didn't think that the armed, forces of the United States could do police work inside, our borders?

>> Sandy Rios: Well, that's the posse cavitatus, they call that. Yeah, that restriction. And you're right about that, except that this is a matter of national security. This is, really technically an invasion from all fronts. It's a. It is a legitimate insurrection of government and destruction, attacks on federal officers. This is a very serious. And I know that I can't. I don't know the statute off the top of my head, but this is perfectly legal for President Trump to order these things because of the circumstances on the ground.

>> Tim Wildmon: So that. Excuse me, that Spanish expression you used, what did you say?

>> Sandy Rios: Posse comitatus. I think it might be Latin. I think it's Latin.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, it's Latin, not Spanish. Thought posse was Spanish.

>> Sandy Rios: Spanish, yeah. Spanish is Latin. So you're. You're close, see?

>> Tim Wildmon: So y' all just trying to embarrass me right now, see, Chris, by, pulling out your Latin knowledge and your no wavo.

>> Sandy Rios: No way, though.

>> Tim Wildmon: No way. Well, no, I'm just kidding anyway. That, that, I've always heard that, you know, that you can't use. Because of that, you can't use the United States military to do police work against its, against people who are here. But anyway.

Wesley: What would keep Trump from doing nothing on California immigration issue

>> Wesley Wildmon: Hey, Sandy, this is Wesley here. My question. Hey, my question would be for you is what would keep, what would keep Trump from doing nothing because he's getting blamed for invading states? Rights. When we know that's not the case, we know that's not true. But if he stays out of it and they get to live in the mess they've created, what's the downfall there?

>> Sandy Rios: Because, Wesley, this is a deep, dark force that is coordinated all over the country. It's not just California. In fact, they're sending out, they have a map of, they're going to do this all over the country this summer. This is a plan. they have a name for it, and, there are several names. I mean, it's, ah, an operation of what's called a red green axis, a red meaning communist left. And that would be, ah, antifa la raza and a lot of others. And then, the, green axis is Islamists, Muslim Brotherhood. But there are other things in between. There's just gangs and criminals and all of that. It's also law and order. We cannot let. The people of the state of California are American citizens. They're not all part of that. They need. They have to be protected. That's what government is for and if the government in California won't protect them, then the federal government has to come in and do that. And there is precedent for this. yeah, so I mean like in Alabama when George Wallace defied federal, the federal ruling that you had to segregate schools, they brought in national troops. So And there's another example too that I can't recall right off hand.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well that was the National Guard I think and the national, I don't know what you would differentiate between the National Guard and the United States Marine Corps in terms of they're both federal or says anyway.

>> Sandy Rios: I don't know, I don't know.

>> Tim Wildmon: To your point though, Sandy, and then Ray, like you to comment on this, when you have a I would agree under normal circumstances with Wesley who just saying if California wants the whole world of illegals to come live in their state and they won't let crime one run wild and they want to vote for that, you knock yourself out. Okay.

>> Wesley Wildmon: However, it's the idea of ah, sleeping in the bed you've made that's absolutely.

>> Tim Wildmon: Or in their case burning down the bed you made. But my, my but, but here's the thing. under. I would, I understand that sentiment but on the other hand Sandy is saying if we know if you allow a home base for criminal activity to go unchecked.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Then you know, I agree. They may be operating in Chicago and in New York and in Atlanta and Dallas and, and small towns. So with things that are going on based in Los Angeles.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. And here in Sandy's point too. I was thinking, well if you don't do something, if you don't set the stage or the tone now with how you're going to handle this one, then it may give

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I tell you what, the emote, the, the emotional reaction of people on the left is they're saying, they're going to say, well this is Trump sending in his jackboot forces to arrest a ah, 21 year old illegal immigrant who hasn't committed any crime. So they're just going, they're using the for. They're using our government to crack down on that kind of thing. Which is not true. Okay.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Because as far as I know there's no effort to deport, to use ICE to arrest people who are not already involved in some kind of a criminal or gang activity.

>> Sandy Rios: Tim, this particular arrest, that they're rioting over was ah, a criminal matter, because, but it involved I'm sorry, I have to, because I can't remember the details of it. It involved people here illegally, but it involved criminal activity.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right?

>> Sandy Rios: Like a. Like a. A group. I don't know, I want to say counterfeit or something like that. It was a ring that they were breaking up. So, it's a crime. It was a serious crime that they were coming after these people.

>> Tim Wildmon: They weren't going after Jose. He was out in the field picking, you know, vegetables or something like that.

Rio: Should we expect riots in other major cities this summer

all right, you're listening to today's issues on afar. Tim, Wesley, Chris and Ray. Do you have any thoughts or questions for Sandy?

>> Tim Wildmon: You know I do. Sandy. I'm thinking about what you said. They want to go. They're going to go this red, green axis. They're going to come to Chicago. They're going to come to Cleveland, presumably m. Philadelphia, maybe New York, Atlanta, who knows? It seems to me that what they want is not just rioting. They actually want. I suppose they want the National Guard to come in because they want this to be. They want. They want to be seen as the victims in all of this, to gin up public support. But, it seems to me that Americans want. The old phrase, of course, is law and order, but what they want is peace. They want to be able to go to a place like Los Angeles and feel that it's safe. So let me ask you. What should we expect? I mean, this is early June. As we move through July and August, hot summer days. Should we expect, riots like this in the other major cities?

>> Sandy Rios: Absolutely. There's a map of them. If I thought about it, I would have pulled it up. They've planned riots across the country. And, Ray, they are. They've been in Chicago for years. I'll tell you, I'll give you an example. Bruce was just assigned at the FBI. He was the legal counsel, and it was his first day on the job. it's before he and I even met. And the Holy Land foundation, that might ring a bell with you, but it was based in Chicago, and that was an organization. It was a front for the Muslim Brotherhood, for the, the worst types here who have infiltrated, embedded themselves in D.C. and all over the country. CAIR is their spokes out castle for American Islamic relations. They were very powerful in Chicago through the Holy Land Foundation. And Bruce's first day on the job there, he got a call and he didn't even know where. He hardly knew where his office was.

>> Tim Wildmon: Working for the FBI.

>> Sandy Rios: Yeah, with the FBI. And a call came in that, the FBI had been surveilling this Holy Land foundation, and they realized that they were planning this overturn of the United States. And so, somebody leaked to the Holy Land foundation that the FBI was surveilling them. And the next thing you know, Bruce was called from the Holy Land foundation by some clandestine person saying, they're shredding all the documents. And he could hear the machines in the back. And he was the one that had to order a raid of the Holy Land foundation that became the foundation for a famous case that came out of Virginia later, when they found these documents about the Muslim Brotherhood. And one of the things they said in these documents, that we are going to destroy their miserable house from within. We're going to destroy their miserable house from within. And, that's a battle that I was in. And it's still a battle, but I was very involved in it when I was in D.C. there's totally infiltrated. And they're in Chicago. They're everywhere. The Muslim Brotherhood, these are the Islamists, the ones that want to kill or convert.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, you're listening to today's issues. and you can listen to Sandy, three times a week with her podcast.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes, Westing, I was just pointing to.

>> Tim Wildmon: Where is it?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes, her podcast on afr.net I'm guessing you're also gonna. That's where I tune into it. But I'm guessing you're gonna be on other platforms, with your podcast as well, Sandy, is that right?

>> Sandy Rios: Yeah, they were on all the podcast platforms, all the major ones. There may be some exceptions, but Apple and Spotify and Amazon and whatever else.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Her most recent title for Most recent podcast is Mark Griffin Seriously Wounded by police on January 6, or J6 and an untold nightmare. So that's our most recent one. There's other ones.

>> Tim Wildmon: When was that?

>> Wesley Wildmon: That was June 6th.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Well, Sandy, thanks for being on with us. And we encourage people to go and subscribe and get your podcast three times a week. Sandy Rio's 247 Rios is Sandy's last name. And, look forward to having you in Tupelo soon. Right?

>> Sandy Rios: Oh, yeah, that'll be great.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Sandy Rios: I mean, I'll be there in a couple of days, and I'll see you guys. It'll be great to see you. So thanks for inviting me.

Sandy says what's happening in Los Angeles is happening all over America

All right.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And I just.

>> Sandy Rios: One last word. I just want to emphasize to everyone that what's happening in Los Angeles right now is what's happening in the underbelly of this country all over. They have plans for destruction. That's why it matters. We have to take a stand now. We have to support our president, when he's making these hard choices, we need to speak out. So.

>> Tim Wildmon: Absolutely. All right. Thank you, Sandy. Appreciate it.

>> Sandy Rios: My pleasure. Thanks, guys. Okay, bye. Bye.

>> Tim Wildmon: Bye. Bye. You're listening to today's issues on afr. Hopefully it doesn't get as bad as it might get right. with there is this map out there. I have seen it too, with dots all over America, where on June 14, which is Saturday, right. There are demonstrations, slash riots, who knows, that are planned, in response to. Well, president, President, Trump and his policies and law enforcement basically.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And I'm guessing haven't seen the map, but I'm going to guess they're in blue cities.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, they're all over the country. Who knows whether that's accurate are going to take place. But no, it's, it's not just there, it's in, it's all over the country.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Gotcha.

Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has fired all 17 members of vaccine committee

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Chris, what's your next story?

>> Chris Woodward: Well, this one's a big one that we're probably going to be talking about for at least the next few days, certainly weeks. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has removed every member of a so called scientific committee that advises the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on how to use vaccines and pledge to replace them with his own picks. In a story we have on our website, Mr. Kennedy says, without removing the current members, the current Trump administration would not have been able to appoint a majority of new members until 2028. A clean sweep is needed to reestablish public confidence in vaccine science.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wow. So he fired how many of them?

>> Chris Woodward: All of them.

>> Tim Wildmon: How many are there? Like 15 or 16.

>> Chris Woodward: I'm, looking here because I want to say we have it in the, we don't have the ballpark figure in our story, which is an AP story that we have posted on our web.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. You hear about this RFK firing them off?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I read the article a, ah, little bit earlier.

>> Tim Wildmon: Good.

>> Tim Wildmon: Bold move.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: you know, some of these people came on, they, they are part of the Centers for Disease Control back in the, you know, FOUSHEE days. And Mr. Trump, the president needs to be able to put his own people on that board. I guess. I guess, Tim, the only way to get his own people is to dismiss everybody at once.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. so they were terminated, their jobs were lost. RFK Jr did that. Yeah, he said. What is his title?

>> Chris Woodward: He is the Health and Human Services secretary. And by the way, I have found an answer to your question. He has fired all 17 members of this committee.

>> Tim Wildmon: And does it say what the committee's job was?

>> Chris Woodward: Well, they, they looked at vaccine and they made recommendations on things like vaccines and policy regarding vaccines. So we have cleaned house basically, which.

>> Wesley Wildmon: While there is no what's not a law, is treated amongst like schools and jobs, is treated as if. If you don't do.

>> Tim Wildmon: They're the authority.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. He said that the committee members had too many conflicts of interest. Currently, committee members are required to declare any potential such conflicts, as well as business interests that arise during their tenure. They also must disclose any possible conflicts at the start of each public meeting. But again, Kennedy says these members have, too many conflicts of interest. We don't know exact details there, but certainly if they have something where they benefit financially or they're invited to, circles based on their, yes or no on certain things. That is a conflict of interest.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So, this is going to be framed by the liberal news media as anti science.

>> Chris Woodward: Oh yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And they're going to say radical, the radical, RFK Jr. Who's radically against vaccines, which by the way, is not true. I've heard him speak.

>> Chris Woodward: Oh, he said it many times during conference.

>> Tim Wildmon: But they, they, the, the political left in this country want to make him seem like he's against all vaccines when he's not. And so, but he's. So he's going to appoint. Listen, you know, this is what happens though their elections, have consequences. And RFK Jr. Is now installing, are going to appoint, a whole new vaccine recommendation board.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right. And when I listen to him, I haven't heard him in a while speak, but when I listen to him, primarily leading up to the election, anybody with any, objectivity or being objective would be able to say he's wanting to, express science. He wants to check things. He wants a second opinion from another doctor. Like just because you're questioning is this the right thing or should we are revisiting something that may have worked in the past but not working now? Literally, he's doing everything that you would want in a doctor and as it relates to his opinions and things like that. So he's actually the opposite of what they're accusing him of, as we all know.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

Members of the House are discussing the impact of screen time on kids mental health

All right, next story.

>> Chris Woodward: Well, I want to bring, people's attention to one other thing here. Members of the House are having a hearing today to discuss the impact of screen time on kids mental health. There is A concern that young people especially spend way too much in time, way too much time in front of a tablet or in front of television, computer, screen, what have you. And so members of the house are discussing the impact of screen time on kids mental health. Somebody that was on television earlier today to talk about this is Mothers Against Media Addiction executive director Julie Scelfo, who had this to say about the impact. Clip 9.

>> Sandy Rios: You know, we're in the middle of a national emergency in youth mental health. We've seen an increase in rates of suicide, self harm, eating disorders, and it's all connected to our kids overuse of phones. These phones are designed to keep us addicted. Social media is designed to keep us checking. And our kids compulsion to check their phones is inhibiting their development and it's displacing critical real life experiences. They need to grow up healthy.

>> Tim Wildmon: What is it about?

>> Tim Wildmon: all right, you guys, how old are your kids, Chris?

>> Chris Woodward: Mine are going into 10th and 7th grade, so 15 and about.

>> Wesley Wildmon: To be 12, 9, 9, 7 and 3.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so Ray, Ray's got Grant. You got grandchildren, grandkids, right? I got grandchildren obviously, but. And a bunch of them. You got a bunch of them too, don't you, Ray?

>> Tim Wildmon: Got a bunch, yeah, got a bunch.

>> Tim Wildmon: But as a parent, how do you see this, Wesley, what she's talking about there? Well, I agree with free time for kids.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I agree with her. So what? I use the word no technology sometimes. So throughout the day or throughout the week, it's not as very common. In fact, our kids, my kids can kind of sense it coming and I'll say no technology or we've had enough technology. And that would mean both TV, iPad, our phone, or any or even Nintendo's or Game Boys or anything like that. So we limit ours. We. I don't have a certain number I look for right now. Some, some parents do. They'll say 30 minutes or an hour, whatever. But I kind of sense it. I can, I can kind of get a feeling from day to day. And based on what we've done, I know the, I know that we prefer. And if we can help it, we're outside more times than not. Obviously. You got rainy days and you got some days In Mississippi, it's 110 muggy humidity.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So I'm not, we're not anti screen, time. But we do, we do or we do consciously monitor the amount of time they do. because of what she just said.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. What about you, Chris? Your kids are teenagers.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. Well, Yeah, I got a teen and a tween. and we do spend a lot of time on electronics. The problem that I run into is me saying, hey, you know, too much screen time. But I have, you know, a BA in communication and I work in news. So I'm usually watching something, looking at something, talking to somebody as you're telling.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Them not to do it. You're on it. Right?

>> Chris Woodward: So yeah, you. I think there is something there that parents, myself included, because I have failed at this greatly. I think parents really need to kind of take a self examination of what you are doing in front of your kids as well.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Get outside and play. Right?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. So what we do is we, we put them outside and we tell them where the popsicles are and we lock the door. We do, we have a, we have a freezer outside. In all seriousness though, I do find I have found creative and fun ways to engage my kids in the summer break. And then we do, we have a water slide, we have a trampoline, we have a fort. We have our cousins right down the road. And so they're back and forth on their bikes fishing. Fishing, yeah, we do fishing a little bit. Everything. But definitely the technology is a good thing. There is a lot of good things you can learn from in there. There's some educational, games that we also include. But she's right, you got to be.

>> Tim Wildmon: Careful, be thoughtful for a number of reasons.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we'll be back after this short time out with Steve Paisley Jordal. Thanks for listening to afr. We'll be back momentarily.

>> Sandy Rios: M. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.

Tim, Wesley and Ray talk with Chris on top news headlines of the day. Also, Sandy Rios joins the program to discuss the latest with the Los Angeles riots.