Today's Issues continues on AFR

>> Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

Tim Wildmon Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Hope you're having a great day. It's Wednesday, May 14th. Again, you're listening to AFR. Tim, Wesley and Ray raised in Kansas City. We're in Tupelo. And joining us here in studio is Steve Paisley. Jord. Good morning, brother Steve.

Steve Jordahl Good morning, everybody. How are you?

Tim Wildmon What do you got leading the news?

Steve Jordahl Well, I just wanted to pay tribute, if I could, to the national treasure that is known as John Kennedy, Senator from Louisiana.

Tim Wildmon Yes.

Steve Jordahl Who is, was addressing the Democrats who for some reason think that Donald Trump lost in his negotiations with China instead of one that's the one that they want to hear. So let's just, without further ado, take play cut 12.

Wesley Wildmon What do you make of that deal.

Steve Jordahl And what message do you think it sends to the rest of the world? And Scott Besson said 130 countries are lined up.

Speaker D Well, I think it's obvious. unless you're the reason that your parents drank, you see that it was a big victory, not just for President Trump, but for America. Before the president did what he did, China's tariffs on the United States were little over 20% on average. Now they're 10. Our tariffs on China were a little over 20. Now they're 30. That's what, a 20 point swing? Now I've listened all day to some of my, Democratic colleagues say that, well, we, we, we didn't get anything for it. you know, if you believe that, I'm not saying you're the dumbest person in the world, but you better hope the dumbest person in the world doesn't die.

Wesley Wildmon Who is this?

Steve Jordahl That's John Kennedy, Senator from Louisiana.

Tim Wildmon He's like the Will Rogers of the Senate.

Steve Jordahl Yes.

Wesley Wildmon he became my new favorite for today.

Tim Wildmon Yeah, he's, he's, he's a, he's always got a quip and, ah, it's a quotable, clip for us here.

Steve Jordahl Might not be the dumbest person in the world, but he better hope the dumbest person in the world doesn't die.

Wesley Wildmon Yeah, he says it in a way too, where you're having your process and he just say that before he moves on to the next one.

Tim Wildmon Yeah. And you know what part of the country he's from, too.

Wesley Wildmon That's right.

Tim Wildmon Pretty clear.

Wesley Wildmon That's right.

Ground penetrating radar finds possible resting site for Noah's Ark in Turkey

Tim Wildmon All right, all right. Now we were this. Ray was setting this up an hour ago. We were Teasing it. I heard this topic, what we're going to discuss. Go ahead.

Steve Jordahl So, we keep, I'm always fascinated when we hear the news, different, things that he discover that kind of, set the Bible apart as, not only historically accurate, but, cannily, accurate. Very accurate as a history book. A lot of people who are not Christians, who don't claim any faith, they use the Bible as an archeological book. It's so reliable. And the latest edition, they think they have found in the mountain regions in Turkey near a mount called Ararat that is still called Ararat, a massive, vessel, something buried in the ground. This is the do, the Duru Pinar formation is what they're calling this. And they've taken some ground penetrating radar and they found what they think could possibly be Noah's Ark.

Tim Wildmon This has been a place that has been talked about, Ray, for a long time, decades, I guess, as a possible resting site for Noah's Ark. what do you, what do you make about this latest discovery?

Tim Wildmon Well, number one, where did Noah's Ark land? It's very interesting what the book of Genesis says, because we ought to go back and get to the foundation here. This is Genesis chapter 8, verse 4. On the 17th day of the seventh month, the ark came to rest on. And this is the key point, Tim, on the mountains, plural of Ararat. Now there is a mountain in eastern Turkey way over by the border with, I, guess with Armenia. But right there near the border is this vast mountain we know today as Mount Ararat. It's always been known that way. The Hebrew text says the mountains plural of Ararat. So let's just say the ark came to rest somewhere, either on literal Mount Ararat or on one of the mountains nearby in that region. Okay, so that's, that's the setup. So, Steve, what else do we know?

Steve Jordahl Well, they, they've detected what appears to be a 13 foot tunnel running the length of this. With this ground, penetrating radar, they have found what they think are three different levels, which, despite the number of stairs I climbed in Tennessee when I went to the ark encounter, I think they have like 20 different levels.

Tim Wildmon Kentucky.

Steve Jordahl Kentucky, sorry. the Bible says three levels, and that's what they're finding there. so the ark is supposed to be 300 cubits by 50 cubits by 30 cubits, about 515 by 86 by 52. And that's about the same dimensions that they're finding in this, Duru Pinar, formation. here's what we're not expecting. They will if they dig. And the plan is to have them excavate. They're not expecting to find a fully formed boat. It's made of wood. And over the thousands of years it has, decomposed. what they are hoping to find are chemical imprints that say that wood was there. And they could find some artifacts, that did. That lasted the amount, that amount of time. They're going to find some chemical, clues in the grass and the dirt around this.

Tim Wildmon So the government of Turkey though, would have to, grant, these archaeologists permission to dig. Right. I mean, am I right?

Steve Jordahl Yes. There's a whole. It's an interesting site if you, you can go, and look it up. It's called,

Wesley Wildmon Well, you're talking about this part.

Steve Jordahl Noah. Noah's Ark scans. Oh, look at, look up Noah's Ark scans online and you'll find all the pictures that they've taken and the, the research data. It's a, it's a big site. Noah's Ark scans.

Tim Wildmon Wesley, you've been to the ark.

Wesley Wildmon in fact, we're going again with, with a bunch of AFA listeners again.

Tim Wildmon When are you going?

Wesley Wildmon We're going.

Tim Wildmon this is art replica, not the actual art.

Wesley Wildmon That's right. Yeah. We're not going to Turkey.

Tim Wildmon You're not going to Turkey. You're going to, you're going. This is the answers in Genesis. Ken Ham. This is their, project.

Wesley Wildmon It's in Hebron, Kentucky.

Tim Wildmon three or four times. Right.

Wesley Wildmon I have. We're going again. We go annually with listeners from, American Family Radio. And we're going October 30th and 31st.

Tim Wildmon What do you do?

Wesley Wildmon We have. In the afternoons we have a speaker and time of fellowship and hanging out together and eating. during the daytime we're going to visit two sites. So day one, we're going to visit the Creation Museum. And day two, we're going to visit the Ark. Ark Encounter. And you can find out what, you can find out all the details of that and you can sign up for our [email protected] events afa.net events now,

Tim Wildmon y' all usually fill up for that.

Wesley Wildmon It'll, it'll fill up. Yes, sir.

Tim Wildmon Wait. Couple two or 300 folks.

Wesley Wildmon Hey, 200 people.

Tim Wildmon 200 people and then you stop.

Wesley Wildmon That's right, yes.

Tim Wildmon Then you have buses to get around, right?

Wesley Wildmon Yes, sir. Well, it's, yeah, it's a.

Ray Faulom says the Bible is absolutely consistent regarding Noah's Ark

Tim Wildmon Wonderful things planned out.

Wesley Wildmon Everything organized, planned out. And you'll get to see for what we're describing here of what they think they have found.

Tim Wildmon The real ark.

Wesley Wildmon The real ark in Turkey, there's a replica of it with the same dimensions.

Steve Jordahl As you described and many, many floors. I'm sure it's faithful to what the scripture says. They probably have a floor that's like the roof. You would have no one would have been able to walk on the top of the boat this covered. So it's.

Tim Wildmon So Ray, what do you say when if somebody says come on man, an ark with a bunch of animals on there two by two, and the world floods and these are the only people left and that's a nice little children's story and makes for a colorful book, but that's a fairy tale. What do you say?

Tim Wildmon Well, first of all, I just say read the Bible for yourself. The people who make those kind of comments m almost never have read the book of Genesis.

Tim Wildmon True.

Tim Wildmon They've almost never read what Jesus said as it was in the days of Noah. They've almost never read what Peter said in second Peter chapter three. What's obvious to me is not just that the Bible teaches there was Noah, there was an ark and there was a worldwide flood, but that the Bible is absolutely consistent. And it's very clear to me that when you read the words of Jesus, they don't even make any sense unless you say that Jesus himself, the son of God, believed in the literal truthfulness of the story of Noah and the ark because he said, as it was in the days of Noah, so it shall be and go all the way to second Peter. You can see it there too. So the Bible is completely consistent. That's one thing to say. The second thing to say is if you want to know how it's possible I got to say this about, when was it? Maybe it was last summer. Yeah, it was last summer. Ah. But Marlene and I were up around Lexington visiting Marlene's brother and sister in law and we had a couple of hours. We didn't have long enough. Wesley didn't have as long as your team is going to have. But we drove up there and we saw the big ark, the ark encounter. And it is one of the most I've been around the world. I've never seen anything as stunning, as incredible as the ark, the replica of what the ark was. I think if you go there and see it, I'm not saying it'll make you believe, if you don't want to believe, you just won't believe. But it'll certainly convince you that what the story as recorded in the Bible, what is recorded there, that it actually really did happen. So to circle back around, Tim, to this, to this article, are we saying that this very strange formation, are we saying that's where the Noah's Ark landed and that it was buried for all these several thousands of years? no. And I think the, I think the people who are doing the research, they aren't saying that. But what they are saying, Steve can correct me here. I think what they are saying, there's a remarkable resemblance. If you use this ground penetrating radar. There's something down there that does not appear to be, quote, a normal geological formation. It appears to be something man made that's calcified or ossified, whatever the word is down there.

Wesley Wildmon Fossilized. The word.

Tim Wildmon Okay, thank you. Fossilized. There's something down there and it might be, it might be the remains, the fossilized remains of what once was Noah's Ark. And wouldn't that be an incredible find in this skeptical God doubting age?

Steve Jordahl It would be. this site I put you all to Noah's ARC scans.com has links to Answers, in Genesis. So they're they're all one.

Tim Wildmon Yeah. again, Wesley, AFA at the Ark, which y' all will be going in October, and you'll be taking a group to visit both the Ark and the Creation Museum and you're going to have some special speakers like from Answers in Genesis and so forth, right?

Wesley Wildmon That is correct. We are going to have Dr. Georgia Purdom. She has been with us the last couple of years. She does a phenomenal job. Dr. Georgia Purdom. And we also have Dr. Danny Faulkner. Both of those are wow, professors or teachers on staff there, at Answers in Genesis. And they'll come and, and this is, they're doing this special for our group. So this is not a. Ah, how.

Tim Wildmon Do you, how do you register? So you got. Only got room for 200 and you're going to be.

Wesley Wildmon That's right. And I don't know, I haven't got an account in a while, but I know that it, it's filling up if it's not already full. And you can go to afa.netevents that's afa.net events. if I could just make a couple comments on your question array and then we can move on to the next topic.

Wesley: Genesis does a phenomenal job of helping you think

But when I went to my. The quick answer that I would give is look at the evidence that we do have instead of speculating on what we don't have. Because when I went to answers in Genesis and went to the ark, two of the things that stood out to the M.O. stood out to me the most that I wanted answers for as it relates to being able to give a good reason for the defense and the hope that I have in me. And that's that there's a significant difference between kinds and species and animals. And so you can find out. I found out there that for the question of, like, well, there's so many different types of animals. How do you get them all on one boat? Well, you can get multiple species from a few different kinds of animals. I'm not going to go any further than that because I don't want to mess up the.

Tim Wildmon Yeah, I have some follow up questions for you.

Wesley Wildmon Okay.

Tim Wildmon Yeah.

Wesley Wildmon So in addition to that, another thing that I discovered that was very helpful for me is that, when you think of putting animals on a boat, you also think of animals at their full size, when in reality, who's to say that they can't be, a baby version or a small version.

Tim Wildmon Yes.

Wesley Wildmon A puppy versus a dog.

Tim Wildmon Yeah.

Wesley Wildmon As it relates to taking up space. And so there's a there androgen. Genesis does a phenomenal job of helping you think.

Tim Wildmon They explain, they get, they give, they don't run from the questions.

Wesley Wildmon The difficult ones.

Tim Wildmon Right, right.

Wesley Wildmon Those are the two most common ones that I hear. as far as objections or, criticisms to, the ark.

Tim Wildmon Look, look, if I'm going to have an ark, Wesley, I want a baby hippo. I don't put some monstrous hippo on my.

Tim Wildmon Yeah, that's right.

Steve Jordahl You know, it's amazing. You go to that place in Kentucky and from the parking lot you can see it, right?

Wesley Wildmon That's right.

Steve Jordahl Yes. And you think, wow, that looks big. And then you realize it's over a mile away from the parking lot.

Tim Wildmon That's right.

Steve Jordahl Massive.

Tim Wildmon Yeah. Wow. Well, also, there's a guy there named Ken Ham and, when you go, well, he talks funny.

Wesley Wildmon Have you ever heard it? Yeah, he does.

Tim Wildmon Yeah. If you steam, tell him, say Tim.

Steve Jordahl Said hello, says the guy from Mississippi.

Tim Wildmon And listen to him talk. Right. I know, right? Ken's a friend. I don't see him often, but, we've been friends for a long time and he's, a native Australian.

Steve Jordahl Yeah.

Tim Wildmon That's why our efforts to his funny talk.

Elon Musk leaving OMB to go back to Tesla

All right. You're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Next story.

Steve Jordahl All right, we have learned that Elon Musk is leaving his responsibilities at Doge. some say he's run the course and he's done what he said he's going to do. Also his car company is in a bit of a trouble because of the political blowback that he's getting. This would be Tesla. So he's going to go back to Tesla and they are getting somebody to replace him by the name of Russell Vogt. Now you might recognize that name. Russell Vogt was on a short list of candidates for the Supreme Court at one point, under the first Trump administration. He was not obviously appointed, but he's been the office at the Office of Management and Budget for Donald Trump from in both terms. Chris knows his wife, who does some publicity for, who helps get interviews with the Heritage Foundation. Asked her is he leaving OMB to take this new position or will he be kind of doing double duty? And she said she didn't know. And to ask his his press person, I think that's being political. I have a feeling she knows, but.

Tim Wildmon They'Re not, maybe she's not allowed.

Steve Jordahl She'S not allowed to say.

Tim Wildmon Yeah.

Steve Jordahl Anyway, either he's going to be leaving OMB Office of Management and Budget or he's going to be staying there and also taking on responsibilities of Doge. I want to hear, I want you to hear a little bit about his thoughts about where this country is Again.

Tim Wildmon Again, who is this?

Steve Jordahl We're about to hear Russell vote.

Tim Wildmon Okay. Now he's going to take Elon Musk place.

Steve Jordahl Yes.

Tim Wildmon and the Doge is short for what?

Steve Jordahl The Department of Government Officials. Department of Government Officials.

Tim Wildmon And what they've been doing is finding waste, fraud and abuse in the federal government.

Steve Jordahl By the billions.

Tim Wildmon By the billions. And now Musk is going back to Tesla and the gentleman we're about to hear right now who is a real conservative. He's one of, he's one of us.

Steve Jordahl Yep.

Tim Wildmon He's going to be commenting on, he's about to comment on what he's about.

Steve Jordahl He was asked about the state of the conservative state versus the liberal state.

Tim Wildmon I got you.

Steve Jordahl He's asked about different. This is his list of complaints about liberal America and talk about it afterwards. If you want to cut 11.

Tim Wildmon This is you. I think a quote, aggressively turned against the American people.

Tim Wildmon Trillions of dollars were used to fund.

Tim Wildmon Cultural Marxism, radical green new scams and even our own invasion. No agency was spared in the less taxpayer funded cultural revolution. That's pretty strong, language from, the omb.

Steve Jordahl It is strong and it's based on the fact that the country saw and put President Trump in office to deal with the reality that when you have the Department of Education funding the indoctrination of preschoolers and funding the teaching of teachers to be revolutionaries in the classroom and have a Health and Human Services that is trying to trans our kids through the grant programs and has research programs at NIH that is funding gain of function research that contributed to the last pandemic, you have something that is fundamentally wrong in this country.

Tim Wildmon Man, I like him.

Wesley Wildmon Keep going, keep going.

Tim Wildmon Do it.

Tim Wildmon Yeah.

Tim Wildmon I will say this for President Trump. He has, I'm, giving a broad general overview of his personnel decisions, from cabinet level to others who aren't, but still. Yeah, he is. He's done so much better this second time around, has Trump, than he did his first time around.

Tim Wildmon I think that's because he learned by experience and because, that, that a lot of people that he thought he could. He didn't know who to trust exactly. He honestly didn't know exactly how Washington operated either, or to the extent that he could use executive power to advance a conservative, agenda. So I think, I just wanted to say that, I think that was one of the people that he surrounded himself with that we just heard from. And I just think, overall you're going to have some blips along the way. You're going to have some people get in trouble or scandal or make mistakes. But, because there's a lot of people that work for the President. But overall, I think he's done an outstanding job with the people that he surrounded himself with, don't you?

Steve Jordahl I agree. Yeah, absolutely.

Tim Wildmon Ray, you concur there.

Tim Wildmon The first, you know, the first few months of that first term, they were chaotic. Is that word. They were chaotic. And they've been very disciplined this time around.

Stephen Miller is a driving force for President Trump's agenda

Mr. M. Trump and his team, they knew exactly, not just what they wanted to do, but they knew who they wanted in the key positions. And no, they, they Mr. Trump's second term.

Wesley Wildmon Much more.

Tim Wildmon Yes.

Tim Wildmon There's a gentleman that a lot of people don't know. You wouldn't necessarily know who he is if you're just a casual observer of the news, but he is a driving force, for the, for President Trump. And his name is Stephen Miller, right?

Wesley Wildmon That's right. Yeah.

Tim Wildmon You follow this? You do. How do you.

Wesley Wildmon The big fan.

Tim Wildmon Yeah.

Wesley Wildmon He stays on script. He's very disciplined. He doesn't get. Didn't get caught up in the emotions of the media. and he also does a good job of exposing them as who they are. The media.

Tim Wildmon Yeah.

Wesley Wildmon And of course, he stays, but he's.

Tim Wildmon A policy guy, too.

Wesley Wildmon Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't follow him as closely in that area. I mostly see him responding to the media. But you're right, he. He's a. He's a huge part of the agenda that's being, played out.

What do you think about his press secretary so far? What's her name

Tim Wildmon What do you think about his press secretary so far? What's her name?

Steve Jordahl Fantastic. Caroline Levitt. She's young, in her 20s. and she just seems to have, an ability to. It seems extemporaneous when she talks. She doesn't be looking at her notes all the time, but she just knows her stuff. Everything that she says has been vetted. I'm sure that she runs it by the president. What can we say about this? She talks and she gives to the press. Her job is to represent the president, and boy, does she do a good job of it. And especially after four years of, the Biden press secretary.

Tim Wildmon circle back, circle back, circle back. And then there was hockey, and then there's kjp.

Steve Jordahl Yep. Kareem John Pierre.

Tim Wildmon So Kareem John Pierre, you'll have to check. Kareem Jean Pierre was famous for telling reporters, I don't know, go check with somebody else. basically, in essence, that's what she would say.

Steve Jordahl Yep.

Tim Wildmon Or she wanted to be clear.

Steve Jordahl Yes.

Tim Wildmon Kareem died.

Wesley Wildmon Than.

Steve Jordahl She never was.

Tim Wildmon She wanted to be clear, and then she never was. So anyway, whatever happened to her, by the way, where'd she, usually they. Usually they leave and go get a talk show somewhere.

Steve Jordahl I don't think she has, I think she'd be a really good candidate for it, much like, Jen.

Wesley Wildmon Psaki did Just Hockey did.

Steve Jordahl But she was fairly well spoken. I don't know that Corinne Jean Pierre has a lot to say.

Tim Wildmon This carry a TV show?

Steve Jordahl I don't think. I don't think she's got that kind of a talent in her.

Tim Wildmon Yeah.

Steve Jordahl I'm just saying. I don't want to be mean, but.

Tim Wildmon I know.

Major League Baseball has reinstated Pete Rose and all the Black Sox

Steve Jordahl Hey, as we leave, Major League Baseball has reinstated Pete Rose and all the members of the, Black Sox.

Tim Wildmon Right.

Steve Jordahl Shoeless Joe Jackson is now, reinstated at baseball. They will be eligible to be voted on for the hall of Fame if, writers so choose to put them in.

Tim Wildmon Well, we'll see how that goes.

Tim Wildmon Tim, are you voting? If you. How are you voting? If you have a ballot?

Tim Wildmon If you had a ballot for Pete Rowe. I don't know too much about Shoeless Joe Jackson story. I don't know. He got involved in the scandal. I would vote for Pete Rose to be in the hall of Fame because I think he's. I think he's. He was punished enough.

Tim Wildmon Yes.

Tim Wildmon In his life for betting on his own team. He did lie about that for a long time. I know he did wrong there, but I just think he was punished enough. The guy had 40 put him in. 4,200 hits. I say it's time to put him in. If you want to put him in with an asterisk beside his name, that's fine. But he deserved to be in the Baseball hall of Fame. We'll be back tomorrow. Have a great day, everybody.