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Tim Wildman hosts Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network

>> Jeff Chamblee: Welcome to today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Today's Monday, November 10, 2025, and as always, we thank you for listening to AFR. Joining me in studio today is Ed Vitagliano. Good morning, brother Ed.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Good morning, Tim and Christopher Woodward.

>> Chris Woodward: Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: Chris, I'll start with you. Your awake in.

>> Chris Woodward: It was great, very restful, had a good time. we, my daughters, I have two daughters that play volleyball. And, their team and parents of the players had a little get together, had some. Had a nacho bar, played some cornhole, roasted marshmallows. Good time was had by l. You.

>> Tim Wildmon: Did three things there. You played cornhole, which is the dads volleyball players. Okay. And then, then you had roasted marshmallows. And, and what else? What was the third thing?

>> Chris Woodward: a nacho bar.

>> Tim Wildmon: A nacho bar. Did you, did you work on that?

>> Chris Woodward: I helped pick up the food.

>> Tim Wildmon: You mean after it was over?

>> Chris Woodward: no, I went, I went with one of the other dads to pick up the food.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, for the nacho bar. Okay, now, is this, is this the.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Thing my, my daughter, my granddaughter missed? She, she's, she's sick. She's got, hoof and mouth disease. No, actually, it's hand, foot, mouth, but I always call it hoof and mouth.

>> Chris Woodward: It is. It is, yes. my, my daughter and your granddaughter are teammates.

>> Tim Wildmon: I just say, you know, you stay away from that if you don't put your hoop in your mouth.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know what I'm saying? Everybody's. You can avoid it if you want.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And I've been doing that all my life. Putting your hook in my mouth.

>> Chris Woodward: I was born that way. As a man, I think.

Half the country was affected by the Arctic vortex, according to CNN

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well, before we get to the, actual news of the day, there was a arctic, blast. Was it an arctic or some kind of vortex? Cortex.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Arctic vortex.

>> Tim Wildmon: That came down from the north, yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: As you said last week, a, Arctic Cortex.

>> Tim Wildmon: Arctic Cortex, which was. He was also an explorer. Yeah. Back in the day. He was, but that's kind of what this is named after.

>> Chris Woodward: He's trying to fact check Christopher Columbus, make sure the world was round.

>> Tim Wildmon: But anyway, seriously, that great explorer, it like, it's like plunk. The Arctic. I don't know how many states were affected? Like half the country. Right.

>> Chris Woodward: Pretty much the eastern seaboard, plus some parts of the southeast, like Ray's new digs, the high tomorrow where Ray Pritchard, lives. The high is only like 58, which for where he moved in. the Tampa area is chilly. It's still cold out.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's a deep freeze for a lot of folks in the two.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Days and then it's right. Right back to the.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Thank goodness. Yeah, I hate cold weather.

>> Chris Woodward: Right there with you. Preach, as they say.

>> Tim Wildmon: I mean.

Eight Democrats voted with Republicans to end the federal government shutdown

All right, you're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Tim, Ed and Chris. And Chris, what is your first actual news story?

>> Chris Woodward: All right, well, it appears that over the weekend independent, Senator Angus King and other. A few other, Democrats that all caucus together, voted with Republicans to reopen the government. final votes are still needed today in the Senate and the House. Matter of fact, the Senate has set to reconvene this hour in Washington D.C. so it's not over yet, but it's looking like the very long and perhaps unnecessary government shutdown is coming to an end. Which is good news, because, there's a lot of people still waiting on planes. Fox right now is interviewing people. 1600 plus flights canceled, 3000 plus delayed as a result of the government shutdown. You match that with the snap benefit situation and a lot of people are ready for this to be over.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, it was the longest. okay, the m. Big story is that eight Democrat senators and I don't know how many were needed.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, that includes two independents who usually caucus with the Democrats.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. They decided that they were going to go against their party, Right?

>> Tim Wildmon: And vote to end the federal government shutdown. Correct.

>> Chris Woodward: Okay, I have to list here if you want me to read the people that voted.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'd like it in honor of Hernando Cortex.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The great explorer.

>> Chris Woodward: All right, so in addition to Independent Senator Angus King of Maine, who again caucuses with Senate Democrats.

>> Tim Wildmon: Gotta love that first name right there.

>> Chris Woodward: Angus.

>> Tim Wildmon: Angus King. I mean, he sounds like he's ready to conquer something.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Or eat a Big steak.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. One of the other.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: in addition to Senator Angus King of Maine, we've got Nevada, Senators Cortez Masto and Jackie Rosen. Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada, Jackie Rosen of Nevada. we've got Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois, Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, Senators Maggie Hassan and Senators, Gene Shaheen of New Hampshire, along with, Tim Kaine of Virginia. I'll post the list.

>> Tim Wildmon: Man, our country's changed and there's no more Debbie Johnson's out there in the Senate. Everybody's got an unusual name, but that, but anyway, so eight. The eight Democrats.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Dick Durbin kind of surprised me.

>> Tim Wildmon: As, he's a leader.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: In the Senate for the Democrats. So.

Chris Bell: I think the shutdown was increasingly looking bad for Republicans

All right, so this means a federal government shutdown will be over. And, and if you want to look at it this way, at least temporarily until January. does this, would you, say this is a win for President Trump and the Republicans or, or not?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Again, like you said, in terms of long term, we'll have to wait because this is a postponement, for the, I think, continuing resolution. But, but, Chris can give us details of this. I think this would be a win for Republicans. I think it was increasingly looking bad for Republicans. Here's the thing. We sometimes say perception is reality. People have heard that expression before. It doesn't matter to a lot of people out there. Voters, if you get technical and say, well, the Democrats are the ones who are holding the economy hostage because Republicans are in charge of the White House and both houses of Congress, it very easily can be made to look like Republicans were the ones doing the shutdown. and when you're talking about people getting SNAP benefits. I said this last week, I'll say it again today. the, the fraud, that goes on with SNAP benefits, the fact that people don't have to work if they can for SNAP benefits, the expansion of that program to include, I don't know, I've just millions of people, all those issues set them in a basket off to the side. You can't go into. Chris, you said this during our story meeting this morning, Thanksgiving, with people not having food to eat. I've been getting posts on social media, seeing posts about local food banks, churches, ah, running out of food. And, and it was going to wind up looking like the Republicans were causing all that. And so I look at this as a win for Republicans to get these eight independent slash Democrats to come along and open the government. And it looks good. Better for President Trump, who seemed like this. Again, just the perception. I don't believe this. But the perception was he was fighting against getting people food. And I know our listeners are going, that's not fair. It's not a fair. I'm not saying it. I'm saying you don't want to be the president leading your party into an election year, 2026, making it look like you have a problem with people getting food when they, when they need it. So that's why I say it looks like a win for President Trump, too.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. his polling numbers were going down. President Trump's. Because of the reasons you just said. The perception among the general public, by and large, not Republican voters, not people, not conservatives. And you may say, well, that's not fair. I'm just telling you. Was that because he was the president and the Republicans did have control of the House and the Senate, they're the ones who can solve the problem, and they have it now. That doesn't get into the Democrats being able to put a, wrench and everything. But, now that it's over, then I think the fallout from the negative fallout for President Trump that was building is going to subside. That's what I think is going to happen. Yeah. Now, with polls, you know, you have to look at who's doing the polling and what, what their reputation is and what their agenda might be. That's why I'm always leery but of citing polls. But if you're going to cite a poll on a good day, you got to be willing to cite that same poll on a bad day. I'm talking about whatever you're. Whatever a good and a bad day is defined as in your politics.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: You see what I'm saying?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Because I know a lot of people will cite polls and they'll say, look, you know, this side's doing good, or this issue is doing good, or this other, president's doing good. But then three weeks later, when the polls are reversed by the same polling firm that you cited three weeks ago. That's what I'm saying. You got to be careful about, the polling firm.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Even if, Even if polls are legitimate. Okay. In other words, the people, the company, the group doing them are not biased. They're honestly trying.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's still a snapshot in time.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, exactly.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And, and, and people's, feelings and beliefs about a particular topic can change almost overnight. So, you know what? You gotta, you gotta take good and the bad.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't. I don't want to bring up the, the financial apocalypse that might happen down the road, but there's probably going to come a day, in the next 10 years or so when this federal government shutdown that we're experiencing is going to be something that is permanent and going to have to be dealt with because the United States of America has completely run out of money and can't borrow enough anymore to get it through. get it through. I'm just saying that that could happen down the road if we continue. Because the amount of debt. I know people are bored with this story and I am too, and tired of hearing about it. Because it doesn't, there's, there's nothing we can do about it at this point. Because.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Because there's nobody willing to do anything about it.

>> Tim Wildmon: No.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Because it'd be hard.

>> Tim Wildmon: No. Yeah.

We just passed the $38 trillion threshold in terms of total debt

you're talking about we're going what, a couple trillion dollars in the hole every, every, every year now.

>> Chris Woodward: We're currently, we just passed the $38 trillion threshold in the last couple of weeks in terms of total debt.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. And, and so, you know, how long can you keep going on with that? I remember asking a congressman five or 10 years ago, whenever it was I asked a couple of them, I said, how long, how much debt can the United States incur before, you know, before we see a, you know, Great Depression, ah, type number two happen and nobody can ever tell you and maybe there's not a particular, you know, place you can be. Because if you can go to 38 trillion and then can you go to.

>> Ed Vitagliano: 100 and we're paying, 1 trillion a year on interest, right. On the national debt, which is now a larger number than national defense spending. And what you're talking about is at some point all the government money, all the government revenues, will be paid towards the debt. And at that point the government becomes insolvent.

>> Tim Wildmon: We've been being warned about this for a long time, but it's a, it's a, it's a subject that does an interest. The Tea Party.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, the Tea Party back.

>> Tim Wildmon: That was the last gasp of fiscal responsibility, effort by, by a big number of large number of Americans, but.

>> Ed Vitagliano: A, but not a large enough percentage even in the Republican Party to have the lasting power it needed to make changes even amongst Republicans, even Republicans for the, for except a few handfuls of Republicans. Even Republicans don't care about it.

>> Chris Woodward: Do you know, you guys want to guess what our national debt was when we entered the year 2000?

>> Tim Wildmon: Little nostalgia from Chris what?

>> Chris Woodward: $5.7 trillion in the year what in the year 2005. 5.7 trillion. And today we're almost 40 trillion.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: A lot of that's just in the last five years.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That was the war on terror started. Then the Obama years, and then Covid and then Trump 2. Turn this the blame for goes for both political parties. It does because neither of them were interested. I've said this, this is my personal opinion is that George W. Bush got Republicans on the spending train because he saw how successful Bill Clinton was in defeating his father George H.W. bush in the re election campaign of 92. Bill Clinton promising money for this, money for that. If you don't want to spend money on federal education, that means you don't care about education. George W. Bush learned that and said, you know what, we'll spend money too. Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: And well also it's a reflection of the American voter. I mean because and I think Republicans are rightly. I'm not saying that I'm not arguing about principle here. Okay. I'm arguing about just the political realities of the day in the moment. And ah, and now the here now when somebody's running for office as a congressman, or a senator, those are the federal or president, they're not want to talk about cuts.

>> Ed Vitagliano: No.

>> Tim Wildmon: And federal spending because somebody's affected by that who has a constituency, who has voters and who can make a lot of noise. And so if you say, as you say, we're going to be against, you know, we're going to cut this or cut that or cut this, then the other party now in particular Republicans are, have become very sensitive to this now and so they don't resist spending anymore is because they're accused of wanting to, you know, cut Social Security benefits, for example. Well, Republicans aren't really going to cut Social Security benefits. But the Democrat if they say anything about reforming Social Security to make it more solvent for the future, then their Democrats jump on that and say see, See the Republicans want to push grandma.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Off the listen, some of the.

>> Tim Wildmon: Guess what, I'm grandpa now.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Some of the fault in this lies in the American voter.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Because the American voter falls.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Oh yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: That's true. That to your point, oftentimes when a.

>> Tim Wildmon: I have a point. I have a point. I have many more points.

>> Chris Woodward: You do?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: To your point, oftentimes when a politician, mostly a Republican talks about Social Security reform, they're talking about things that are going to help it be there for me and Brent. It's not going to impact you, but it's always I care about, number one.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, the Bible teaches there is an.

>> Chris Woodward: Eye in Tim M. And I made it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, that. That is. That is a good point, because I don't want to lose. I'm not on Social Security right now, but I don't want to lose it. So if someone were to come to me and say, all right, we got to do the hard. We got to do the hard things, Ed, if we're going to make this solvent for your kids and your grandkids, and guess what? I'm going to go, we're kicking this can down the road.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. If they came to you and said we're going to have to push that eligibility age to 75.

>> Chris Woodward: Oh, it's going to.

>> Tim Wildmon: What would it say?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I would say, not on my way. You're not getting my phone.

>> Chris Woodward: Well, and see, that's where it's. That's where it's poorly communicated. But really. Because really, when they're talking about raising the age, it's not for people that are on it or about to be on it. They're again, talking about the two.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: Myself and Brent.

>> Tim Wildmon: But I remember they were telling us back when I was 40 that Social Security wasn't going to be there for me.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, and it is now.

>> Ed Vitagliano: We're stretching it.

>> Tim Wildmon: But, but, but, but I'm just saying, as you said, we don't want to talk about doomsday here too much, but there is going to be a day of reckoning somewhere down the road, probably in the next 10 to 10 years or so, that you're going to reach that point where. I don't know what's going to happen exactly, but you're going to reach that point where the federal government can't pay its bills any longer.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right. Okay. So can we.

Ed Galloway: What did Nancy Pelosi do that upset you

Can we leave, the doomsday subject?

>> Tim Wildmon: We can.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'd like to talk about villains.

>> Tim Wildmon: Let's do that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'd like. I'd like to talk about Nancy Pelosi.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I want to talk about a sure enough villain.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. What would. What. What Nancy Pelosi do that upset you, Ed?

>> Chris Woodward: Well, okay, you go.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, no, you go ahead.

>> Tim Wildmon: Chris has got the heart.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Over the, weekend, I sent it to Chris and Steve and all them, and I said, we. We got to cover this.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Because this made me hot.

>> Chris Woodward: Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And I'm not just talking about the sweater I'm wearing.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. You're talking about your attitude, talking about.

>> Chris Woodward: My attitude, yeah, it's no wonder now that Nancy Pelosi can inform all that ice cream that's in her, ridiculous refrigerator that she took a picture of four or five years ago, that we talked about on the show. Here's the headline here. Whopping wealth of Nancy Pelosi under Scrutiny. As it's revealed she has earned $131 million in stock profits while in Congress. $131 million in stock profits while in Congress. She already makes, well into the six figures being a member of Congress. She's going to get a pension based on that. For those not aware of it, and she's become quite the multimillionaire, at a time when she's been lockstep in agreement with Democrats saying we need to tax the rich.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, what is she worth, by the way?

>> Tim Wildmon: This, how do we know this? This was had to be public doc. Public information. Right?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, it closed. Yes. This is a New York Post analysis and found that before first taking office in 1987, Pelosi and her husband reported between 610,000 and 785,000 in stocks in their portfolio. That has now gone up to 133.7 million. But here's, here's the thing that's, that blew me away, okay. I, I, I'm not opposed to people getting rich. I don't, I'm opposed to people getting rich when it looks like, it only looks like they have access to information. That nobody else has because she's a member of Congress. Her profits, in terms of stocks and returns, she made a 16,930% profit.

>> Tim Wildmon: I want her stockbroker.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. How did 60,930%.

>> Chris Woodward: Profit instead of E.F. hutton? You should listen when Nancy speaks.

>> Ed Vitagliano: My question, and this is just a question. I'm just asking questions here.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Did she have Tucker access? Oh man, that's a, that's a, that's a little terrible thing to say it. Did she have access to information that nobody else has? What we used to call insider trading. I, I, I don't, and by the way, I don't care if you're a Republican or a Democrat, you shouldn't be going up there. I'm not opposed to people making some money. Okay, but if it looks like all these people go up there poor and then go home rich, something, why is that change you have to say?

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, I, your, your earlier question, how much is she worth? According to the New York Post. Because they're the ones that did this, information other people are piggybacking off of, the New York Post coverage here. The Pelosi are worth the. An estimated $280 million today.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's more than double what I'm worth.

>> Tim Wildmon: Problem is they. Problem is they run out of good health and life expectancy to enjoy it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, she does eat ice cream.

>> Tim Wildmon: You've accumulated it. But man, remember that when she had.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Her freezer, somebody saw was $30 a half gallon.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Or something crazy like that.

>> Chris Woodward: Her refrigerator was bigger than a New York City apartment.

>> Ed Vitagliano: This was during COVID Yeah. she got interviewed and I remember that showing the reporter her home and her freezer and she bragged. Did I have the price right on that? She bragged to this reporter that she had these little half gallons, gaff. Gallons of ice cream in this big freezer that were $30.

>> Chris Woodward: There was the picture. Yeah. Eating her little $30 for a gallon. the New York Post cover story that time was dessert.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, okay then.

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All right. You're listening to today's issues on American family radio. Tim, Ed and Chris take our break. Go ahead and take our break. Is it brother Frank gonna be on with us? Frank Turk. Brother Frank.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, I'm sorry I quoted the wrong price for her ice cream. It's $52 per half gallon.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, a half gallon, 52 bucks.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So.

>> Tim Wildmon: So what you're saying is a. A spoonful is a dollar, am I right?

>> Chris Woodward: it was $13.

>> Tim Wildmon: You got the brand name on that?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Jenny's.

>> Chris Woodward: That's a high value mail order ice cream.

>> Tim Wildmon: That doesn't sound legal to me.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Speaker of the house.

>> Chris Woodward: He's got a prescription for it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, M a I l. Yeah. Okay. We'll be back in a minute. Stay with us.

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Watch college football on the weekend. Indiana is undefeated and ranked number two

>> Jeff Chamblee: This is today's issues. Email your comments to commentsfr.net Past broadcasts of today's Issues are available for listening and viewing in the [email protected] now back to more of today's issues.

>> Tim Wildmon: You guys are, you guys are college football fans, right?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Watch college football on the weekend.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Did you see the way Indiana beat Penn State?

>> Chris Woodward: I sure did.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I did not. They barely beat them, didn't they?

>> Tim Wildmon: They barely beat them. They were playing at Penn State. Indiana is number two, I think. Indiana Hoochers. And I'm not talking basketball. Right. This is a new world.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. Vanderbilt is also having a great season. Yeah, it's a new world. Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: But the Indiana receiver and quarterback, like, they won, like, like, seconds left in the ball game. And the receiver made, one of the greatest catches in the history of college football. You got to watch this. Okay, but his foot, you got to have one foot inbound as college right? Pros, you got to have two. His foot, like, an inch or two. keep them undefeated and.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, they won 24. 27. 24. So that was a last second.

>> Tim Wildmon: Last second. Last second.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Watching that.

>> Tim Wildmon: It was a. Yeah, it was a. It was one of the greatest catches you'll ever see. But, anyway, when they say sports oftentimes is a game of inches. Yeah, it literally is oftentimes game of inches. but. But that was, phenomenal. But, yeah, Indiana Hoosiers, again, not basketball. Now undefeated and ranked number two, and deservedly so in the country.

Frank Turek is in California preparing for an event with Turning Point

all right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Well, our good friend Dr. Frank Turek is, out in California getting ready for an event with Turning Point usa, and, he agreed to come on with us this morning. hey, Frank, how you doing?

>> Dave Williams: I am in the land of fruit and nuts.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, it's no longer fruits. Huh? Huh? They've been reduced to a fruit, fruit and nuts. Huh? land of fruit. what are you doing out in California? Where are you and what's going on?

>> Dave Williams: Well, you know, California is a beautiful state. Shows you that what God can create, man can mess up.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's true.

>> Dave Williams: But, I'm actually in San Francisco right Now, but tonight we're at UC Berkeley with TP usa. I was supposed to be here with Charlie Kirk. Charlie's gonna remain in glory, but me and the comedian Rob Schneider are going over to UC Berkeley. There'll be some other students speaking too. So, we're speaking at the probably most liberal campus in the country, or one of them anyway.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. What's gonna be the four? What's gonna be the. What's gonna be the format for you guys?

>> Dave Williams: Well, it's a two hour event. There's some, students that are speaking first. I'm only going to speak for about 20 minutes and then Rob's going to come up and he'll speak and he may do some Q and A. So it's a bunch of us. We're just continuing the tour that we were supposed to do. And I'm just going to obviously talk about what happened to Charlie, talk a little bit about evil and talk about the gospel, because that's really what Charlie was all about. The gospel first and politics second. So that's what we're going to do.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Frank, at an event like this for Turning Point usa, I know that Charlie Kirk, would invite young, ah, people at these campus, meetings who disagreed with him to ask questions. Do you expect there to be people there at Berkeley who are opposed to the gospel, opposed to conservatism, all these kinds of things, or is this going to be mostly, fans of Charlie and just kind of a let's keep going kind of event?

>> Dave Williams: I don't know. We'll find out when we get there. It's sold out. It's about 2,000 seats. So we'll see. I've noticed that when you guys were, when they were down at Ole Miss, and I know, Tim, you were there. Yeah, it was mostly believers. So we'll see, we'll see what happens tonight.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, the event, ah, at Ole Miss. When was that? Like 10 days ago or so, or two weeks ago or so. was 10,000 people. Yeah. And the vast, vast majority of them were, were supportive of Charlie Kirk and were there to. And Erica, his widow was there along with Vice President Vance. So it was a. I mean, I know Frank Turek's going to be there, but we're talking about the Vice President of the United States right now. but it was an amazing, amazing event. You're right. But now Vice President Vance, did ask those who disagreed with him or the Trump administration to come forward and be first in line to ask their questions. So I did admire him for, for that. And they did. There were some, very, hard and difficult questions that he was challenged, with. But yeah, well, listen, we're going to pray for you. we will pray for you and ask our listener to pray for you. Pray for Frank Turek today and Rob Schneider and the other Rob Schneider. I got that. Right, right. Yeah. I had a childhood friend named Rob Snider, so.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. But, he wasn't the comedian, that we're talking about. But they will be, in California tonight at Berkeley. As Frank said, it's very liberal, place wouldn't surprise me. They're not protesters outside the event.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And what. So what can we watch that on, on your channel, Frank?

>> Dave Williams: No, I think it's going to be live streamed on the TPUSA Rumble Channel. The TP USA Rumble Channel.

>> Tim Wildmon: Like let's get ready to.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Dave Williams: What's that like?

>> Tim Wildmon: Like let's get ready to.

>> Dave Williams: Yeah, yeah, exactly. it's not my event, otherwise it would be on the cross examined, channel and I would, I would take questions. But this event is, it's not organized by me. I'm just an invited guest.

>> Tim Wildmon: I got you.

>> Dave Williams: but, it will be on the TPUSA Rumble channel. So please check that out if you go to Rumble. You know, it's kind of a YouTube that doesn't, censor people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, tpusa, the TPUSA channel on Rumble. It'll be there. And it starts at 9:30 Eastern, so 6:30 here on the West Coast.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so 9:30 Eastern, 8:30pm Central. Central time.

>> Chris Woodward: okay, I'll roll on it tonight and see.

>> Tim Wildmon: Anything else you want to say before we let you go?

Two months since Charlie Kirk was murdered, there are plenty of conspiracy theories

>> Dave Williams: Well, it's two months to the day that Charlie was murdered and I miss that guy every day. And I know the country does as well. So just pray that enough people rise up and do what he was doing. Preaching the gospel, answering questions and showing people the right way to live is to conserve what we know is true. That's what conservatism is all about. Conserve what we know is true. And to know Jesus and to make him known is why we're here. So let's try and spread that word. And we need to, we need to be engaged in every area of life. Because Christianity is a, is a worldview that believes that we ought to be engaged in every area of life, including the political Realm, for the good of everyone, if we're going to love our neighbors, then we want to put laws in place that protect them from evil. And if we have that opportunity and don't take it, we're not loving our neighbors.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, let me ask you. Amen to everything. You just. Let me ask you a question. We haven't. We haven't. Frank and I haven't discussed or talked prior to this request that he be on with us today from California, although we have Frank on once, a week, if we can, just to discuss various and sundry topics. So, Frank, if you want to answer this question by saying, I don't want to talk about it, that's fine, too, because I could understand why. But what about, this, the person who shot Charlie, was arrested, and is he in trial or something like that, or going through that. Going through the process or whatever like that. So, what am I trying to.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Tyler Robinson.

>> Tim Wildmon: Huh?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Tyler Robinson.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so do you believe that he's the one who shot and killed Charlie and that's the end of the story?

>> Dave Williams: That's the best evidence we have now. And I know there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there, and I've addressed some of those on my radio program and podcast, Particularly Candace Owens is pushing that. but here's what we need to remember about homicide investigations, and I had my friend J. Warner Wallace on the podcast about a month ago to discuss how these investigations are done. The prosecution very rarely tells you what they're doing for several reasons. their job is to convict the real killer, not to quell, conspiracy theories that come up. For example, suppose they were right now investigating a second shooter. If there was one, they would not tell the public that. Why? Because if they told the public that, and then someone comes forward and says, oh, I saw the second shooter. They don't know if that guy really saw the second shooter, or they're just. Or that guy's just trying to make a name for himself. He's lying. also, they don't want to taint any jury pool, and they don't want to tip off the defense on what they're doing. I know they check into conspiracy theories because I was the subject of one of them. I mean, right after Charlie was murdered, you may have remembered the guy in the white hat supposedly signaling the, shooter. Well, that was me.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Dave Williams: You know, and the FBI called me and said, were you, signaling, the shooter? I said, that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. First of all, I'm a friend of Charlie. Second of all, why would a shooter 200 yards away looking through a scope need somebody to tell him who Charlie Kirk was? He's the one under the tent with the microphone. Everybody knows that. Right?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Dave Williams: He couldn't even see me. I was 25ft off Charlie's right elbow. The shooter couldn't see him. It's. Some of these conspiracy theories are so stupid, yet the FBI is still going to check into him. Why? Because when they get to trial, the defense is going to say, did you check about the guy in the white hat? Did you check about this, this, conspiracy, that conspiracy. And then the FBI is going to be able to say, yeah, we checked into all of it. None of it makes any sense. Now, by the way, maybe some of these conspiracy theories might make more sense if it wasn't Cash Patel and Dan Bongino in charge at the FBI. Those guys were personal friends of Charlie. Do you think, do you think they're gonna not investigate this, properly and intently to find the real killer?

>> Tim Wildmon: That's a good point.

>> Dave Williams: All of these conspiracy theories. And by the way, it's also in a red state too. Who. A, red state. Who, by the way, is very embarrassed as to what happened and should be because the. It was either the state police or the campus police. I've seen the texts that say, oh, we got the roofs. No, you didn't have the roofs. You should be ashamed of what you didn't do.

>> Tim Wildmon: Mm.

>> Dave Williams: So, yeah, this is a red state. And in fact, Greg Laurie is going to be out there, doing a crusade, I want to say it's the 17th of November. This was scheduled before all this happened. But he's going to be there trying to get people to realize that the truth is not work through Mormonism or Mormon theology. The truth is, is that you're saved by grace through faith in the real Jesus. He came to save us, so pray that's another good thing that comes out of this. But.

>> Dave Williams: Don't pay attention to conspiracy theories. For people that say, well, this is possible. Look, anything's possible. But unless you have evidence for that possibility, shut up. Because all you're doing is you're creating havoc. For like my friend Mikey McCoy is getting death threats. I'm getting people emailing me saying, oh, you'll never know what happened, you'll never know what could happen to you, or you ought to repent. Repent of what? Because some, yahoo is out there suggesting that this is a possibility and That's a possibility. And that person has no evidence.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you, brother, 100%. That was.

Someone insinuated that it was Israeli Mossad that killed Charlie

I. I saw, somebody insinuated that it was Israeli Mossad that killed Charlie. Oh, there's. Who was that? Who was that?

>> Ed Vitagliano: That.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's. That was making the rounds. I don't know if that's still going on.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, there was no.

>> Tim Wildmon: Again, no evidence, anything like that. Just throw it out there.

>> Chris Woodward: Israelis have also been blamed for the assassination of John F. Kennedy on the Internet.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I mean.

>> Dave Williams: Yeah, well, that. It wasn't with seed oil that killed Kennedy. Come on. Yeah, we all know that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Seed.

>> Dave Williams: Seed oil.

>> Tim Wildmon: See? Okay.

>> Dave Williams: Oh, no, it was Trump. It was Trump. I'm sorry. It was.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, me. All right, Frank. All right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: We will, encourage people to pray.

>> Tim Wildmon: And watch the event, too, and pray.

>> Ed Vitagliano: For Greg Laurie going up to Utah.

>> Chris Woodward: That event is Sunday, November 16th.

>> Dave Williams: There.

>> Tim Wildmon: You have Greg on.

>> Dave Williams: Okay, thank you.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. Thank you, Frank. Take care. See you. Bye bye.

>> Dave Williams: Bye bye.

Frank Turek says event at University of California at Berkeley is highly liberal

>> Tim Wildmon: that's Frank Turek joining us from San Francisco, California. He will be at Berkeley. That's. That's like a suburb of San Francisco, right? Or it is right next door.

>> Chris Woodward: It's in that area. You've got Sacramento, San Francisco. that. That area. you. Lodi, Stockton, that it's all together.

>> Tim Wildmon: And, the Bay Area, they call it. But anyway, the event is on the campus of the University of California at Berkeley, which, as Frank said, is, the most liberal campus in America. Maybe it's tied by some others, but m. It's very, very liberal.

>> Chris Woodward: In addition to praying for Frank being out there today, I was today years old when I learned that, there is actually a Turning Point USA chapter on the campus of UC Berkeley because, Fox and Friends, to their credit, had Frank on earlier today. and shout out to Frank because he gave the gospel in that interview. But during that segment, they also had some sound from the president of UC Berkeley's Turning Point USA chapter.

>> Tim Wildmon: let me just say something. We're all thinking. But I didn't want to mention this in front of Frank because he's probably a little anxious already. Okay. there's going to be some protesters out there in this place.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Where he is.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Word has gotten out.

>> Tim Wildmon: M. Huh?

>> Ed Vitagliano: word has gotten out on the college.

>> Tim Wildmon: There's so many lefties out there.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: In, Bay Area. So I'm just saying pray for Brother Frank. He's. Now, he's. He's not responsible. This isn't his event, he's an invited speaker but it's going to be him and that comedian Rob Schneider. Rob Schneider. And then I don't know who else is going to speak but my guess is they're going to be interrupted. And during the 2000 people in And if it were me, I wouldn't feel safe. No, I wouldn't, I wouldn't feel safe. And I'm sure. Wow, Frank's a brave man. I mean. Yeah. To do, to do this because I would have said no, not going to go there.

>> Chris Woodward: It is a sold out event today according to their.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And let me say just one other thing too. Okay. two things. Just briefly. I didn't realize it's been two months. It seems like Charlie Kirk was killed six months ago.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: There's been so much that's gone on. But Frank Clear, he was a true friend of Charlie Kirk.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You can tell we've been interviewing Frank for a long time. We've spoken with him face to face countless times. He's clearly still feeling the impact of Charlie hers.

>> Tim Wildmon: You can hear it in his voice.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You can hear it in his voice. This is not only the tragedy of a young married man and a father. This is a friend, a dear friend. Frank was his mentor in a lot of ways. he is still feeling that he may not get over it, quote unquote, get over it for years. And he is taking time to go to these events when he's asked to speak and I could, could tell in his voice this is still, this is. He's got some trauma. He was right there. He, he, he went to the hospital in the car on him. Yes. This is the. What we most of us saw on video. He was right there and saw it. And so be praying for that, for Frank as well as well as this event and the safety of those participating.

We got cut off from YouTube for talking about high Ivermectin

Folks, we are facing violent revolutionaries in this country. It's the percentage of the people in that category are still very small. But they're out there and there are. And you only need one nutcase. And so be praying. Our nation is very, very sick at heart. Going to Isaiah chapter one. Our nation is very sick in its heart and we need God to move. So a tip of the hat and my admiration to people like Frank and others who will.

>> Tim Wildmon: Rob Schneider, the media, I don't know, I don't know him. But for him to go be willing to go into that den there of, of secular progressives tonight. So he said, ah, be On Rumble.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, I don't get Rumble. Well, rumble, like a YouTube.

>> Chris Woodward: It's a social media video type. If you go to YouTube tonight and you look at turning points, YouTube page, most likely. See it. See it Because I watched, Eric Trump and his wife Laura or Lara last week at Auburn on YouTube.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, well, and then, Steve Crowder, I listen on the way in, someone had sent around, might have been Chris sent around something.

>> Tim Wildmon: Steven Crowder, the commentator of the podcast.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Podcast. The full thing that you can see. The video podcast is also on Rumble. So, that's becoming a place where conservatives can post their content and not worry about it getting, ah, sacked.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well, we wouldn't have been sacked on YouTube either had you not talked about high Ivermectin. See, there. There you go again. Hydroxychloroquine for those who trip down memory lane, ladies and gentleme.

>> Dave Williams: During.

>> Tim Wildmon: During COVID and I did this too, but Ed was talking about such things as Ivermectin being effective Against Covid and YouTube. Heard that they did. And, they said, no, we're. You've violated our community standards, and so we're cutting you off. So we got cut off from YouTube. but we're back on. Right, Right. Did Facebook cut us off too, or. I came. Facebook didn't. But anyway. So, so we're back on YouTube. But, but anyway, yeah, it's a. It's a. For conservatives out there. You can have your, microphone turned off on certain outlets if you go. If you go against the liberal, narrative on issues. And so hopefully. And that hasn't been happening as much, especially since the election. In fact, a lot of the, social media platforms, Well, I say a lot of them. Facebook, I think, basically apologized, didn't they?

>> Chris Woodward: I remember Zuckerberg wrote a letter to House Republicans saying that the Bible made some mistakes. I think he saw the writing on the wall.

>> Tim Wildmon: They cut people off.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I just want to say one thing before we move on. I'm having an Ivermectin sandwich today at lunch.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you just. Yeah, we're down. You know, we're not endorsing that. We're just saying it could be effective against certain ailments. Yeah, right.

>> Chris Woodward: Views and opinions expressed.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ivermectin sandwich. I think you can get that in Australia.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I got them sometimes prepackaged, you know, sandwiches. Yeah, you get a. I'll take the Ivermectin sandwich with the hydroxychloroquine wings.

>> Chris Woodward: No, it's great on popcorn.

>> Tim Wildmon: Not the Buffalo Wild wings.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right. Hydroxychloroquine.

International Olympic Committee reportedly set to ban transgender women from all female categories

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, you're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Tim, Ed and Chris. Chris, what's your next story?

>> Chris Woodward: I have a big update in the sports world.

>> Tim Wildmon: Give us a big update.

>> Chris Woodward: The International Olympic Committee is reportedly set to ban transgender women from competing in all female categories. the change is set to be officially announced next year. the decision to overhaul the current policy was made after the sporting community carried out a science based review of a biologically born male's physical advantages.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. This is a big deal because the Olympics, you know, they're the gold standard of sporting competition, around the world. And, now the Winter Olympic Games.

>> Chris Woodward: They'Re about to start.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's coming up in a couple months, right.

>> Chris Woodward: About February.

>> Tim Wildmon: M. Okay. But then they have the, So two years from now in Los Angeles, we have the Summer Olympic Games.

>> Chris Woodward: I'm sure there'll be big, beautiful games.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. And so, remember last time during the Summer Games, we had a few of the competitions where you had, males who, said they were transitioning to be a female and they were allowed to compete. Remember this?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: especially boxing. Remember that, that guy who won said he was a girl and he beat up on those girls and then the.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Gold medal, didn't he?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And then the, also the, And I don't know if this was in the Olympics. Remember the fencing?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, that's, that's that. I forgot about that.

>> Chris Woodward: It was in Olympic. It was definitely an international event that had some sort of.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That was when, when the young woman said she, she wasn't gonna.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, she, she bowed the knee and said, I'm not fighting you because it was a big hulking dude.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, who said he was a girl. And so that's not going to be allowed any longer in Olympic sporting events. You're not going to be able to be a born a male and then compete against women. Now that's just common sense. you would say, yes, it is. But in today's world, that's lacking in a lot of respect, a lot of places. So good for the Internet. What body made this announcement?

>> Chris Woodward: The International Olympic Committee. and the, the Winter Games that are coming up are going to be in Milano, Italy. Italy.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. See, if you don't stop this, this will ruin women's athletics. Yeah. And I think the Olympic Games knows this. You can't have men playing girl sports and, and, and expect people to watch that stuff.

>> Chris Woodward: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: They won't. And the women will get discouraged and quit, too.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. well, that was the prediction once I forget it seems like it was a volleyball player or something. But anyway, I remember this goes back four or five years ago. It was during the Biden administration where she said, what's going to happen is that women will be watching women's sports from the bleachers.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Because men would. Pretending to be women would be taking it over.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, that was a good way of putting it.

American Family Radio has some Christian heritage tours lined up for next year

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. You're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. We only got a minute or so go to go before we take a break.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: So I will just, Did you have something else?

>> Chris Woodward: Oh, no, you go ahead.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. I just wanted to tell folks, if we got some, tours lined up, some Christian heritage tours lined up for 20, 26. I know a lot of people make their plans on their vacation time off or what have you for. For next year now. So, we are, we have tours lined up to the Holy Land, to Greece, to colonial. There's a, our tours in June and September where we go to Williamsburg, Jamestown and Yorktown. So much American history there. And then we go to Washington, D.C. our nation's capital, and George Washington's Mount Vernon. Those trips are in June and September. And then also in September of next year, we're going to Boston, Mass. The old stomping ground of Ed Battagliano.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right.

>> Chris Woodward: It's gonna be a wicked trip.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's gonna be a wicked. We went in October a couple months ago, and it was a lot of fun, A lot, a lot, lot to see in, in, the Boston area in terms of American history. So any of those tours I just mentioned, you can see the dates, the itinerary, the cost, everything by going to wildman. Wildmongroup.com and all the information is there. we'll be back momentarily. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.

Tim and Ed talk with Chris on top news headlines of the day including a discussion on how the government shutdown is closer to reopening. Also, Dr. Frank Turek joins the program to discuss how he is speaking tonight at a TPUSA event in Berkeley, CA.