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Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning everybody, and welcome to today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR. This is Thursday, November 20, 2025. Week from day, it'll be a week from, today it'll be Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving Day. So, I know everybody's looking forward to that annual celebration we have in our country here. Good morning, Fred Jackson.

Fred Jackson: Good morning to you, Tim.

Tim Wildmon: Tony Vitagliano. Good morning. Brother Tony.

Tony Vitagliano: Good morning.

Tim Wildmon: And Chris Woodward.

Chris Woodward: Good morning.

Tim Wildmon: How you doing, Chris?

Chris Woodward: I'm well.

Tim Wildmon: And we, again, we thank everybody for listening a lot to talk about today. As I always say, that's a good thing because this is a talk show and we didn't have anything to talk about. I guess we'd play elevator music or something. I'm not sure what we would do to fill the time, but we, we got a lot going on in this world of ours, don't we, Fred?

Fred Jackson: Sure do. It's, it's a time that, I tell you what, I've never seen a quiet news day in the last several years.

Tim Wildmon: And today's no different.

Fred Jackson: Today is absolutely no different. And Chris is going to tell us all about it.

Tim Wildmon: Yeah. But we got the, Dick Cheney funeral taking place in Washington D.C. today. Right.

Fred Jackson: Right now at the National Cathedral.

Tim Wildmon: Yes, because we're watching it on tv. we got our TV screen over here and seeing some faces we haven't seen in a long time, at least, in public. I have. Dan Quayle is at this.

Fred Jackson: Yeah.

Tim Wildmon: by the way, Dick Cheney was president. Excuse me, Was vice president from 2001, is that right? 2009, is that correct?

Chris Woodward: January 20, 2001 to January 20, 2009.

Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Before that he was a Secretary of defense.

Fred Jackson: Yes. A really good one.

Tim Wildmon: yes. During the, George H.W. yes.

Tim Wildmon: What else did he do? Tony? Do you know Vice President Cheney? Was he a good cook?

Tony Vitagliano: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. That was kind of before I started paying attention to politics.

Tim Wildmon: So how old were you, that era?

Tony Vitagliano: Well, I would have been, let's would have been from fourth grade to high school. So I was, my head was in the clouds.

Chris Woodward: The 2000 election was the first one I voted in that I was able to vote in.

Tim Wildmon: Who'd you vote for?

Jennifer: Bush.

Chris Woodward: and Cheney.

Tim Wildmon: Okay, well, it's, it's a, they're Having it at the National Cathedral. I'm talking about the service for Memorial, service for Vice President. Former Vice President Cheney. And you've got, George W. Bush. And Laura, you've got, Joe Biden. And Jill, you've got Kamala Harris. You've got Mike, Pence and his wife. You got. I guess Kamala Harris's husband's here. I think that's him. I know people can't see what I'm doing. Al Gore and Dan Quayle are side by side.

Fred Jackson: Yes.

Chris Woodward: Together again.

Tony Vitagliano: The inventor of the Internet showed up.

Chris Woodward: Reunited, and it feels so good.

Tim Wildmon: So the inventor of the Internet and, the guy who, learned to spell potato.

Chris Woodward: Yeah.

Tim Wildmon: Sitting side by side. You know what? Dan Quail got a raw deal on that.

Fred Jackson: Yes.

Tim Wildmon: Tony doesn't remember this.

Chris Woodward: I think I was in fourth grade when that happened.

Tim Wildmon: They accused Dan. The media accused Dan Quail of not being able to potato. Well, what it was. He had gone, this is during the campaign. He had gone to a classroom with some young kids, you know, and, he spelled potato, and the teacher, I think, corrected him. Well, the teacher was wrong.

Tony Vitagliano: Yeah.

Tim Wildmon: The spelling teacher was wrong, and he. And he erased what he said. He was like, well, who am m. I to question the teacher?

Dan Quayle is currently the chairman of Cerberus Global Investments

Fred Jackson: Yeah.

Tim Wildmon: And it turned out the teacher was wrong and he had actually spelled it right. But he foiled. But Dan Quail will forever be known as the guy who misspelled potato in front of all the children.

Tony Vitagliano: The spelling actually changed over the last four years of spelling. Well, it's spelled B, I, D, E, N.

Fred Jackson: All right.

Tim Wildmon: Anyway, that's happening right now in Washington, D.C. at the national, Cathedral. But I haven't seen. I've seen Al Gore in a long time, but I hadn't seen Dan Quayle in. Gosh, how long has it been? 10 years or so in public?

Fred Jackson: It must be.

Tim Wildmon: Does he still live in Indiana? Because he was from Indiana like Mike Pence.

Fred Jackson: I'm not sure if he's still there.

Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

Chris Woodward: I'll Google what is Dan Quayle up to?

Tim Wildmon: And also, also Google the year. Tell us, if you can tell us the year that Mike Pence will smile. Okay, when is that coming? Yeah, what year is that coming up?

Chris Woodward: AI Overview says I'm not sure, but Dan Quayle is currently the chairman of Cerberus Global Investments, an investment company he has been with since 1999. He also authors a syndicated newspaper column and has written three books since leaving public office. Three more books than I have.

Tim Wildmon: What was the third book was on Spelling. Yes, but what was it? What was it? What's his job again?

Chris Woodward: he is the chairman of Cerberus. Cerberus, however you say it, Global Investments and investment company he's been with since 99.

Tim Wildmon: I was in Global Investments, at one time, but I don't remember seeing him at any of the meetings we were at. So, there you go.

Flags at half staff in Washington because Vice President Cheney passed away

Big deal happening in Washington. And they are, they are, ah, remembering the life of, Dick Cheney now conspicuous by his absence.

Fred Jackson: Yes.

Tim Wildmon: Is who, Fred?

Fred Jackson: Yeah. President Trump and Vice President Vance were not invited.

Tim Wildmon: They were not invited.

Fred Jackson: Okay, that's, that's the official.

Tony Vitagliano: Oh, they weren't invited. Okay. Okay.

Tim Wildmon: Well, Tony, what would be the reason for that?

Tony Vitagliano: Maybe, I think they had a little bit of a.

Tim Wildmon: A conflict.

Tony Vitagliano: A little bit of a conflict.

Tim Wildmon: Couldn't make it.

Tony Vitagliano: Yeah, I believe Cheney, endorsed Cheney.

Tim Wildmon: endorsed Kamala Harris. Harris, yeah. Yeah, because he was ticked at Trump because Trump had gone after his daughter, Liz Cheney because his daughter had served on that, What was that?

Fred Jackson: January 6th Committee.

Tim Wildmon: Right, January 6th Committee. And they had, they had gone back and forth. A lot of animosity there between, the Trump, Trump and Cheney.

Fred Jackson: Yeah.

Tim Wildmon: Family. So, and so no surprise. No, that he's not invited to. Now our flag as the flags of our flag has been half staff.

Tim Wildmon: Because that's a, it's a federal mandate.

Fred Jackson: Yes.

Tim Wildmon: Because, anytime a Vice president or a president dies, you. Ah, I think it'll be lifted today.

Tony Vitagliano: I think, I think so, yes.

Tim Wildmon: Anyway, so if you see a Flags out at half mast, then the reason for that is, because Vice President Dick Cheney passed away. All right, so, that's what's happening in our nation's capital. Is Mike Pence awake?

Fred Jackson: I think so.

Tim Wildmon: Biden's awake. That's kind of surprising. there's Mike Pence. Mike Pence was an excellent congressman from Indiana, one of the conservative leaders for several years before he, took the vice president role for, for Donald Trump. Anyway, there you go. I was, talking about what's happening in Washington D.C. all right, Chris, other than that, what's out?

President Donald Trump to meet with New York mayoral candidate tomorrow

what else is in the news?

Chris Woodward: Well, a M. Moment ago, Mr. President, you use, the talking to me, right? Yes, sir. use the word animosity. two people that also have a strong feeling of dislike or hatred for one another are President Donald Trump and New York mayoral electoral, Zoharan Mamdani.

Tim Wildmon: I don't think they hate each other. Do they? That's kind of a strong word.

Chris Woodward: I would say they have a strong dislike for one another based on things they have said about one another in public. Now, the good news is they're gonna meet tomorrow at the White House.

Tim Wildmon: Good news?

Chris Woodward: well, it's better to meet and try to talk about some stuff than continue to bash one another.

Tony Vitagliano: Yeah, they're gonna work out a trade deal. New York City. New York City and the rest of the United States of America.

Tim Wildmon: Are we gonna trade New York City.

Fred Jackson: Maybe to Russia or three of my buildings.

Chris Woodward: Trump is going to say the takeaway thus far is when you said, and I quote, I like Chris, I'm going to, I'm going to hang that in my office. but anyway, yeah, so, Mr. Trump, President Trump is going to meet with the soon, to be mayor of New York City and they're going to talk about things including like SNAP benefits, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, formerly known as food stamps. it's an issue that involves, inequality, income inequality, things that Mamdani ran on, because he wants to make everything free pretty much in the Big Apple. and the president, who has called Mamdani a socialist and a communist, sometimes both in the same sentence, is going to meet and they're going to talk about some stuff. I do have some audio of, somebody from the Wall Street Journal, another New Yorker by the name of James Freeman who appeared on Fox today to talk about this upcoming meeting.

Don Wildmon: Clip 1 well, I guess right off the bat, you would hope that President Trump would, encourage our new mayor to, focus on public safety. the commissioner, of the police department is going to stay for now. That's good news. And also talk to him about the destructive impact of higher corporate tax rates. That's what, Comrade Mamdani has been threatening for New York. Obviously President Trump really, created a model and, and boosted U.S. growth by lowering the corporate tax rate for the United States.

Tim Wildmon: Well, you know, that's wishful thinking right there. I don't think, Tony, that Zo.

Chris Woodward: Is it Zo run Mamdani.

Tim Wildmon: Zo run Mandami.

Chris Woodward: That guy.

Tim Wildmon: I don't think he is going to be interested in listening to President Trump tell him, how to break his campaign promises.

Tony Vitagliano: Yeah, no, I, think he's actually on the record now as basically having to admit that they're going to have to raise taxes on higher income individuals to pay for the free buses. At least the buses are, they estimated to cost around $700 million.

Chris Woodward: a year.

Tony Vitagliano: and you got to get that money somehow. And he's not going to be able to raise taxes on the, the lower middle class who, you know, a lot of them voted him into power. So you got to go to the higher, earners in your city. And Yeah. Trump, Trump doesn't. Yeah. Trump likes tax cuts for, you know, Right.

Tim Wildmon: Business. Well, you know, but I don't think anyway, what that I was, but I was going on what that gentleman right there from the Wall Street Journal saying Trump is going to talk, try to talk Mandami out of being Mandami basically. And that just not going to work.

Fred Jackson: Yeah, it's going to be. Must watch tv.

Tony Vitagliano: Yeah.

Fred Jackson: Because we know what happened when Trump in the Oval Office was meeting live with Zelinsky, the Ukrainian leader. And that is a meeting that I've never seen before. That went off the rails.

Fred Jackson: Publicly, everybody watching it turned into, as we say in hockey, a verbal donnybrook. It really did. This has the potential because both these men have pretty good sized egos. and so tomorrow I'm going to be watching, Lord willing, I'm going to be watching to see what happens there. Because you've just pointed out, Tim, these two people have nothing politically in their ideology that even comes close. You know, Trump has said we may cut off federal funding if you do what you're going to do.

Fred Jackson: And with regards to the SNAP program, Mr. Trump, President Trump wants to cut back. Remember, they're going to get everybody to.

Tim Wildmon: Reapply for M. Snap, which is a great idea.

Fred Jackson: It's a great idea. But do you think, Mom, Donnie is going to go along with that?

Tim Wildmon: M. yeah, I don't. Yeah. But he doesn't control the federal, SNAP program.

Fred Jackson: He doesn't.

Tim Wildmon: It's a federal government program.

Fred Jackson: Yep.

Tim Wildmon: Mondame, I'm talking about now he's going to try to do things like freeze rent, government grocery stores, which I don't know where he gets the groceries and I don't know who ministers that. Free, free subway, free public transit for everybody. And that ought to work out really well in New York, you know.

Tony Vitagliano: Yeah.

Fred Jackson: well, even, even the Democrat governor of New York, even though she endorsed him publicly, has come back now and said, wait a minute, we don't have.

Tim Wildmon: The money for that.

Fred Jackson: The state doesn't have the money for what you want to do.

Tim Wildmon: Right. She endorsed him, the governor of New York. I think she saw, you know, he was going to win.

Tony Vitagliano: Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Tim Wildmon: But, but she doesn't have any, she, she, she's bringing him back, back to reality, you know. Sorry. What's his run? Hey, Zo. Run. listen to me. I'm gonna speak plain English to you. We ain't got no money.

Fred Jackson: That's right.

Tim Wildmon: Now you're gonna have to tax all those billionaires and millionaires in New York.

Tony Vitagliano: There's two worldviews so diametrically opposable to one another.

Trump came from the, the ultra capitalist, big businessman, New York deals

Trump came from the, the ultra capitalist, big businessman, New York deals, you know, just that that's, and that's how he views New York and that's how he, what New York should be. Right, right, right. Is, you know, the central hub of finance for the world.

Tim Wildmon: Right.

Tony Vitagliano: And mom, Donnie is coming at it from like this. The communistic wealth confiscation just, I don't know how they're going to be able to come to an agreement on anything, to be honest.

Tim Wildmon: So we're going to be watching is that meeting tomorrow at the White House.

Fred Jackson: At the Oval Office.

Tony Vitagliano: Actually they're charging pay per view tickets. You have to buy for it to watch it.

Tim Wildmon: Well, I think Mandami should be free once it offered free. That's, that's the difference. Trump's wants pay per view. Mondami wants it free.

One of the issues that helped get President Trump back into office was sports private spaces

All right, you're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Next topic.

Chris Woodward: Chris, let me mention this real quick, because one of the issues that helped get President Trump back into office was the issue of males and female sports private spaces. Title nine issues, title nine being, a 50 some odd year old law that basically provides women, equal opportunity on the sports field as well as facilities, like locker rooms, shower spaces, bathrooms, things of that nature. And we all know the story about, people like Wriley Gaines, former University of Kentucky swimmer who, has been an outspoken critic, about males and female sports. One of the broadcasters out there that has long claimed and criticized people like Wriley Gaines has been Joy Reid. But even in recent days, on her current broadcast, which is like a streaming service type podcast thing, Joy Reid herself has shared concerns now about males and female areas. I had to edit this down, but here's a clean version where you can hear from Joy herself. Clip 7.

Jenna Ellis: This is nothing against trans anybody. What it's saying is I turn around and I see a, I would probably go to management and say, wait a minute, why is there somebody, a naked man in this room?

Chris Woodward: Now that again was Joy Reid.

Tim Wildmon: That's very, very transphobic.

Chris Woodward: Yes, yes.

Tim Wildmon: I'm really disappointed in her.

Chris Woodward: Well, you know, now that she's not on MSNBC anymore, she doesn't have to worry about losing her job there. but she has made headlines because she is saying what a lot of people.

Tim Wildmon: She's a far lefty. Oh yeah, you would expect her to say the opposite. And here she is.

Tim Wildmon: Saying what common sense dictates. And that is women don't, I don't care how liberal they are. They don't want dudes wandering around their locker rooms and their showers, especially at a gym. Ah, what triggered this was a lesbian, a black lesbian woman in California. M went viral for her objections to a, ah, man who was in. Was it Planet Fitness?

Chris Woodward: It was a Gold's Gym in California.

Tim Wildmon: Gold's Gym. Okay. And a man came in there and she just came out yelling and screaming, upset this woman was. And as I say, it got, got a lot of attention.

Chris Woodward: Yes. And you're not the only person to mention that example there of that lady, the lesbian.

Tim Wildmon: I'm not going to yell and scream like her.

Chris Woodward: Oh no, no, no, no, no. I don't have the audio of her. But instead I've got reaction from Jennifer say. Jennifer say is the head of XXXY Athletics who was on the Will Kane show yesterday afternoon to talk about what in the world happened to Joy Reid. How did she come around on this issue? Clip 8.

Jennifer: She's clearly talking about Tish Hyman, who's the black woman. I think you've had her on her on your show who encountered a man in the Locke was at Gold's Gym and you know, screamed and yelled and then got kicked out of the gym. My generous interpretation is that that opened Joy's eyes, someone she did not expect, you know, because she's been screaming that this is like a right wing issue for the last 10 years. And here she sees, you know, a black woman, a lesbian, a Democrat, and she kind of like.

Jenna Ellis: It broke her brain a little bit.

Jennifer: And she said, you know what, maybe I can say the thing I thought all along. Who knows what she thought all along. Right. I mean, I think she goes where the wind blows. But I do give Tish big thanks, for moving the Overton window a bit, I think for a lot of people.

Tim Wildmon: Moving the what?

Tony Vitagliano: Over the Overton window.

Tim Wildmon: Say like a movie or something.

Tony Vitagliano: The Overton window, you know, you've seen the diagram, two circles and the middle circle, is where they overlap, but then it shifts.

Tim Wildmon: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I know what it was Called.

Chris Woodward: But, sorry, Trivia Friday.

Tony Vitagliano: I'm actually going to save that.

Tim Wildmon: I looked over at Tony, our millennial, with a blank stare. Well, you know, you just go through life and sometimes things get said and you go, I never heard that before. And people go, what?

Tony Vitagliano: I also have a theory to posit as to why Joy Reid may be changing her tune on some of these issues is she is no longer with msnbc, so she may not be going to the establishments, the exercise establishments, where this type of behavior is not, very common. You know, maybe she views things a little more differently now that she goes to the local Planet Fitness. Any weirdo can walk in.

Tim Wildmon: Yeah. He's a woman.

Tony Vitagliano: Yeah. Wander around the window, opens your eyes. Being closer to the real world.

Tim Wildmon: one day these, these places are going to get sued.

Fred Jackson: Yes.

Tim Wildmon: That something's going to happen and they're going to get sued.

Tony Vitagliano: Yeah.

Tim Wildmon: And they're going to lose a lot, a lot of money. I'm talking about these, these fitness gyms that allow man to say he's a woman and wander around in the showers, in the dressing rooms and the changing areas. Just. It's kind of good. That's going to happen. All right, you're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Tim, Tony and Fred and Chris. is that the end of that story, Chris?

Chris Woodward: Yes. Okay, let me check on something real quick. Do you have clip 16 available? Okay.

Texas governor declares Muslim civil rights group CAIR a terrorist organization

All right. so, as we have reported on afn, the Texas governor has declared the Muslim civil rights group known as Cairns C a I R a terrorist organization. CAIR says that's not fair. How dare you? But Governor Abbott was on Fox just before our show began, defending his actions, and, went on to talk about, CAIR and their leadership here. Clip 16.

Tony Vitagliano: So listen, Texas has its own separate laws that are independent of the United States laws, with regard to designating foreign terrorist organizations. I have that authority as governor and I use that authority previously to designate the Mexican drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations and now to designate the Muslim Brotherhood and now CAIR as, foreign terrorist organizations. listen, both of their history is long documented, to be either, connected or through affiliates connected to terror. with regard to cair, for example, one of the, founders of Cairo, Texas, in our state, had ties, to financing terrorism and was put in prison for 65 years. More recently, the executive director of CAIR, praised the October 7th by Hamas, and that killed Americans. And so either their connection to or support of, Terrorism is something that we want to make sure that we block and eliminate in the state of Texas.

Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Well, good for him.

Fred Jackson: Yeah, it's kind of interesting, there's. He went on in this interview, Governor Abbott, to say by designating them a terrorist group, this would also curtail any plans to purchase land and do business in the state. Now we've done multiple stories, Chris, and with regards to plans by an Islamic group there just north of Dallas.

Tony Vitagliano: To build a epic cities, what they.

Fred Jackson: Wanted to call it. Yes. So I think this all kind of ties together on this. CARE has responded to this. I think you are going to see a lawsuit and we'll see where that goes.

Tim Wildmon: CARE stands for what?

Fred Jackson: Council of American Islamic Relations.

Chris Woodward: Correct.

Tim Wildmon: They've been around a long time.

Fred Jackson: They have been. And they are the first to send out press releases when there is a Islamic attack. A terrorist attack.

Tim Wildmon: Oh, that's Islamic.

Fred Jackson: That's.

Tim Wildmon: Yes. Everything's Islamophobic to them.

Fred Jackson: Yes.

Tim Wildmon: so now what, what did they. Didn't they. Did you just say this? They were giving cash out to people to go and

Tony Vitagliano: That was yesterday. Disrupt story yesterday.

Tim Wildmon: but care, I'm saying was giving cash out. They To disrupt to cause unrest. To cause unrest on college campuses in favor of the Hamas organization. Right?

Fred Jackson: Basically, yeah. They were given thousand dollar checks for anti Israel agitators.

Tim Wildmon: Right. I mean, so I mean that's that's all you need to know to me to designate them a terrorist organization. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. We'll take our break right here and we'll be back in a couple of minutes. Jenna Ellis will be with us in a few moments as well.

Don Wilemon: Please continue to pray for Christians in Nigeria

You are listening to the radio program Today's issues on American Family Radio. A lot more topics to get to and talk about what's happening in our country and in our world. And we ask you to continue to pray if you haven't been already, for the Christians in Nigeria. that's the largest country in Africa. And I keep reading these horror stories every day about these Muslim terrorists, Boko Haram, just terrorizing and brutalizing the Christian citizens there in Nigeria. It's really, really bad. we'll be back momentarily. Stay with.

Don Wildmon: It's my turn.

Tim Wildmon: Here is your host for my turn, Don Wilemon.

Don Wildmon: I saw a Tragedy last Sunday morning

Don Wildmon: Most of us remember reading a short verse of scripture in the book of Proverbs. Proverbs train up a child in the way he should go. I saw a Tragedy last Sunday morning. I hope I see it again next Sunday morning. For I'd rather see the tragedy, I saw than a greater one I fear will eventually occur. I'll call him Johnny. That's not his name, but for our purpose, that's what I'll call him. Johnny's in elementary school. He's in his formative years. And Johnny is the tragedy, or miracle as it may turn out to be. You see, Johnny came to Sunday school and worshiped by himself last week. He's been doing it for some time now. Sometimes Johnny will ride with a neighbor to the church. sometimes when the weather is good, he'll walk. Sometimes a member of his family will bring Johnny to the church and drop him off. Now, what's the tragedy? I saw just that. Someone in Johnny's family bringing Johnny. Dropping him off to go by himself. Johnny's father and mother have something else to do more important. And so Johnny managed to get to the place that would give him some direction in life all by himself. The story is repeated often in our society. However, I'm afraid it doesn't happen enough for most. Johnnies never manage to get to Sunday school and worship. They simply find more important things to do, like the rest of the family. How long little Johnny will continue to see to it that he gets himself to a place that can give him moral and spiritual instruction and guidance, I don't know. I hope he'll find strength in himself to continue the habit. But I'm afraid that one day Johnny will find it easier to sleep. Or one Sunday, the family will make some plans that will require Johnny to be away. And that will be followed by another Sunday, with some more plans. And another and another. I guess what I'm really saying is that the pack is stacked against Johnny. The chances of his continuing his present habits are small. The odds against him are too heavy. Johnny will find further down the road that his visits to the house of God will have to cease. The family has other things to do. More important. Johnny is not a poor boy. His family is one of means. They have what most families long for. Two cars, a fine home, modern conveniences, the whole works. Now, they're not millionaires, but they're well over the poverty line, materially speaking. And that's the tragedy. Johnny's family gives him everything he needs except what he needs the most. And I guess if you ask them, Johnny's family would say they love him. Certainly, there would be an emptiness in their home should Johnny suddenly die. But like I said, Johnny's chances are slim. There's just too much going against him. There's always that slight hope for a miracle, however. So I guess we can hope. But in a few years, if Johnny doesn't make it and he turns out wrong, don't be too hard on him. For as a youngster, he really tried. Oh, incidentally, Johnny is not kin to you, is he?

Jenna Ellis: This has been My Turn with Don Wildmon, a production of the American Family Association. Jesus said, let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these. Matthew 19:14.

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Tim Ferriss welcomes Jenna Ellis to Today's Issues

Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues. here on the American Family Radio Network. I'm Tim with Fred, Tony and Chris. We thank you for listening to afr. and, Jenna Ellis joins us now from the, great state of Florida. Jenna, good morning to you.

Jenna Ellis: Good morning. It is a great state of Florida.

Tim Wildmon: The free state of Florida. That's what Governor DeSantis calls it, right?

Jenna Ellis: Yes, yes, and we love it.

Tim Wildmon: You know, if you go to Florida and you cross the state line, I'm talking about driving, not flying. because I don't know how. You see the sign, it's a road sign that says, welcome to Florida, the free state of Florida.

Fred Jackson: The free state, yes.

Tim Wildmon: So that's their. That's their motto. now, Jenna, okay, a lot to talk to you about.

Congress has voted to release all the Epstein files; people want to know

I want to. First of all, I ask you about this. You heard a guy named Jeffrey Epstein?

Jenna Ellis: Unfortunately, yes. We've been hearing too much about him.

Tim Wildmon: I know. I don't want to talk about this much, but I do want to ask your opinion. You are a constitutional lawyer and you follow Congress and everything like that. is this. Is this over now? I mean, now that, now that, the Congress has voted to release all the, quote, Epstein files, and I don't even know what all that consists of is that, like, what is that? You know, and then.

Jenna Ellis: I don't think anybody really knows at this point what that consists of. But the Babylon be had the best headline today. It said, trump sadly announces a dog ate the Epstein files. And then the dog was lost in a boating accident. And then the boat was nuked. And, I think you actually sent that to me, and I think that that's. That's where everybody's at right now with all of this, because it's gone on for so long that no matter what is actually released, I don't think anybody on any side is going to believe that it's the whole thing. And then they're going to wonder, well, what was redacted? And then Speaker Johnson coming out and saying, well, there are national security interests and all that. I mean, what possible national security interests could there be for someone who's accused of the types of sex crimes that Epstein. I mean, I've never heard this ever related to this kind of. Of a sex crime. And so the only possible conclusion that I'm left to. To reach, and I don't have any insider information any more than anybody, on this conversation, the only thing that I can conclude is that the national security interests are protecting people in Washington, which is the very problem that conservatives have had to begin with, with this whole debacle.

Tim Wildmon: People want to know, because otherwise there's any kind of interest in this would be purely prurient, as they say. Although that's not beyond Americans. Americans like prurient interest sometimes, but along with schadenfreude.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, we, like that one, too.

Chris Woodward: I don't think we can set.

Tim Wildmon: It on a barrel. Family radio.

Tony Vitagliano: I'm Italian.

Tim Wildmon: Is that a window? Tony?

Tony Vitagliano: What was that Italian?

Tim Wildmon: Okay, so. So, you know, I think the. The main interest in the quote Epstein files, if I'm using quotes, right, because we don't know exactly what that is now, is that. That a lot of people want to know. Was there a shadow government? Has there been. Has there been a big, you know, group of people, Republicans and Democrats, liberals and conservatives, who have been secretly, running the government, are being bribed or being involved in, activities where they were compromised? And you go, well, this is why this happens and this happens and this happens when it seems like it's unexplainable or why are both sides working together so closely? Why is there a uni government or whatever they call that, uni party? and people want to know. Well, maybe it's money, and maybe it's people like Jeffrey Epstein who, you know, had blackmailed, all these people to do certain things, and people want to know if that's true or not. Tony, have I got that?

Tony Vitagliano: That's a good summation.

Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

Tony Vitagliano: See what Jenna says about it.

Tim Wildmon: That's why I'm here.

American Family Radio has a new podcast coming out every Friday

But, all right, you're listening to today's Issues. What's your podcast going to be on? This week.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. Yeah. So not the Epstein file, thankfully. Right. Because we, we really don't need to be doing any of that. But, but we have on one of our favorites, actually a raw egg nationalist. He's kind of an anon, from the uk, but is talking about a very interesting issue, that the birth rate in the UK is going way down. And as of the most recent government data that they have, from 2022, 77% of women are having abortions in the UK that are white. And that's a little under 200,000 abortions a year. And so there's no way to paint this as anything other than a disaster. So we talk about the rise of abortions, selective abortions in the uk along with the companion issue of the infiltration of Muslims into the UK and the, the, the basically the displacement of uk, citizens that are, it's now becoming overrun by Muslims and how that is mirroring what's happening in the United States in some cities, like you see what's going on in Michigan, you see what's going on in New York City, and why the Trump agenda really needs to, protect our borders. And of course we get into pro life, all of that. So a really long form conversation that I found really fascinating.

Tim Wildmon: I want to listen to that podcast, so when will it be out?

Jenna Ellis: it'll be out tomorrow. So, On Demand drops every Friday. And to listen to that, you can go to, you know, Spotify, you know, any of those others, or to afr.net, click on that ah, tab for podcasts, and then go down to On Demand.

Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Okay, so folks, if you go to our website, afr.net and you click on the podcast banner, then find Jenna Ellis Podcast. It's once a week. It's, called On Demand. So you can get it very easily. Jenna said other places, Spotify, other places, where podcasts are available. But certainly you can get it at our website. And you definitely.

Jenna Ellis: And our app as well.

Tim Wildmon: Yes, in our app, afr.net so you definitely want to, make sure you listen to Jenna's, podcast each week here on the American Family Radio website.

Number of babies being born to White women down in Britain as Islamic population grows

you know, Fred, is this the same in Canada, the birth rates?

Fred Jackson: Oh, yeah, very much the same. And I would say it's about the same here. And you did say it's ah, white women in Britain.

Jenna Ellis: Yes.

Fred Jackson: And so just imagine this kind of, ah, if you put it on a graph, the number of babies being born to White women down, the babies being born to the Islamic population which is growing in Britain is going up. so the cultural change that that brings about, and we've done stories of what's been going on. I think it's Liverpool, some of these cities in Britain, basically where the cop, the British cops are told, don't go in there.

Tim Wildmon: Why does this matter, Tony?

Tony Vitagliano: Well, to me it's not so much the concerning part is not so much the racial aspect, the replacement of race. It's the replacement of values. So, the UK native birth rate, dropping dramatically and that statistic was that 77% Jenna, is that what you said? That's disturbing not only for the pro life, aspect, but for the people of England. You are going to be replaced. Your values are going to be replaced because the people who are having children and that you have been importing, they don't adhere to the values, that the UK was founded on and still a large part in Judeo Christian values. They're coming from a part of the world where it is ah, Sharia law, it is ruled by, you know, ah, religious theocratic dominion. so to me that it's more so the replacement of the values, than just the population replacement. that is concerning and that's what's going to happen.

Tim Wildmon: This is happening all across the west, where. And we see the influx of, of people from the Middle east, people from North Africa, just you know their problem. That's where people are flocking from to go to Europe. Now you could look at it one or two ways or maybe both are true at the same time. There are a lot of people going to escape poverty and maybe they don't like Sharia law. You know, some of them are escaping to Europe because they want to live free and they want to. I'm giving the best base on this, okay? And they want more opportunity to, to make, you know, make a living and make a better life for themselves. I do think that's why a majority of people come to the United States. I don't think they have sinister plans. I do think there are terrorists who come here and are Chinese spies. I do think that happens for the vast majority of people coming to Europe, probably to the. But that doesn't change the fact of the numbers that Jenna gave, which really don't have anything to do. they're independent of one another of the decision of these people to just pour into Europe. but the native Europeans are deciding we don't want to have babies. We don't have families anymore. And so as you guys have said, that's going to reach a, point where you're not going to have native.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, and I would just say, I would disagree slightly on the people who are coming into the UK and even the people who are coming into America, that they're coming here for a virtuous purpose, to actually understand American native culture and the Judeo Christian worldview. They are failing to assimilate and they are bringing their religion, their cultural values and their mores here and they're establishing their own culture within the United States. And we're seeing that happen like, in Lansing, Michigan where you hear the Muslim call to prayer in an American city at, you know, all hours of the day, and you look at Dallas Fort Worth Airport and you see that their prayer rooms are overrun by Muslims who are, who are worshiping Allah. And you're seeing all of this across, even now elections with Mamdani in New York City, who is, an avowed Muslim socialist. So these aren't people who are coming into America because they're abandoning where they grew up and they're saying, you know what? I value and respect the American way of life and I'm going to be a hard worker and I'm going to participate. One of the things that we learned during the government shutdown was how many non citizens benefit from the welfare programs. And you saw all of those numbers and you also saw in the Mamdani election how many non US born voters. And so people, who can vote, but they're not US born are the ones that are pushing candidates like that and who are suggesting that somehow this Muslim socialist has a better way of operating in the US Than our own native worldview. And so this is an infiltration and I think it's purposeful. And so what we are, what we need to be doing and what the Republican Party and conservatives are calling for increasingly is not just a stop of illegal immigration and mass deportations, but even a stop of legal immigration until we get a handle on all of this. And this is one of the topics that we actually cover, in the podcast that'll be released tomorrow as well.

Tim Wildmon: Yes, that I agree with everything you said. That's a, that is a separate issue from why are native Europeans, why aren't people in America, having children, to keep up with the birth, to keep up with the replacement, even with the replacement rate.

There's a lot of people 35 and younger that don't have kids

And I don't know, I don't know what the Fred, you Have any thoughts on why this may be? You think it's, the cost of raising families today? you think it's.

Fred Jackson: I think it is. It is. one of. We've done stories on this. One of the reasons they say, couples say today is that we're going to delay having our first child because we want lots of money in the. In the bank so we can buy a house. All of those sorts of things. that's one of the reasons. I'm not saying I agree with that, but that's one of the reasons being given.

Chris Woodward: Climate change has been cited by some young couples too. They buy into the myth, that we are killing the planet by having more children.

Tony Vitagliano: Yeah, that to me, those are.

Tim Wildmon: Are you serious, Clark?

Chris Woodward: I'm dead serious.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. This, this is something.

Chris Woodward: There's a lot of people 35 and younger that don't have kids because.

Tim Wildmon: Tony, do you believe in the Scobo warming?

Tony Vitagliano: Well, obviously not. I have five.

Fred Jackson: Tony's team on you.

Tim Wildmon: Tony's best in the average. Wide open.

Tony Vitagliano: Yeah.

Chris Woodward: Mission is great.

Don Wildmon: Again.

Tony Vitagliano: I, I think it. It's a reflection also of the moral decay, amongst that. That the younger generation would view children as being a burden. priority. It's. Yeah.

Tim Wildmon: Ah.

Tony Vitagliano: And it's, it's. It's a self. I'll just say it's selfish mindset, to. To say, okay, I, I want to do what I want to do for longer. and you know, or if it's for financial reasons even that is going to get pushed out further because you still can't afford housing. You still can't even if you're, you know, single or married with no children, that even. That is slipping away.

Tim Wildmon: So I just know, I just know the, the baby boomer generation, which I'm, on the tail end of. I know, that. And people. A lot of people listening to me right now who are in their 60s and 70s and maybe 80s, they. They came from an era and I came from an era where it was. It was nothing to have four children. Okay. Four was probably the average. because a lot of families were five, six children, seven children even. on the, you know, you had three children. You were a small family. back. I'm talking about back in the 50s and 60s and 70s and even certainly in the, now birth control. That, that, that entered the picture, what, in the 70s or 80s and that changed everything.

Jenna Ellis: 1965 was the supreme Court case. And that was coupled with. Yeah. And the sexual revolution and the church I also largely blame for this as well. That is not telling young people that marriage is God's design for you. And you see so many so called Christians that are buying into this secular nonsense that, they don't want to get married. They want to, even for some purportedly lofty or spiritual reasons, like, well, I need to work on myself and I need to, you know, know that I'm complete in Jesus before I get married. And it's like, you know, none of that is actually biblical, any of the, the marriages or any of the commentary, in Genesis or all the way through, you know, what Jesus talked about in marriage. It doesn't say, you know, make yourself a whole person and get therapy before you leave your father and mother and be not a dear wife. I mean, none of that is scriptural, but, psychology has really infiltrated the churches. And so many Christians are buying into this myth that somehow they need to, you know, work on themselves and all of this before they can go out and decide that they want a quote, unquote, life partner. I mean, we are not even teaching what marriage and family genuinely is in the church. And I've had conversations, you know, as a single woman who's looking for a husband, and you guys all know this, it's so frustrating to me to see that so many men of my age group and of, you know, younger women that I know they don't have any prospects because men don't want to be men. They don't want to be providers anymore. They don't even know if they want to get married. And then even worse, they don't know if they want to have kids because it's either a cramp on their lifestyle or, you know, as we've talked about the affordability issue, but they're not looking. The church is not incentivizing, young men to pursue God's design regardless of all of this other secular nonsense.

Tim Wildmon: Yeah, no. Bingo. You just bingoed.

Tim is accepting applications for Jenna Ellis' future husband

All right, Jenna, thanks for joining us today. And what's coming up on Jenna Ellis in the morning? Tomorrow morning.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, so we're actually going to be talking, with my mom, who is a biblical counselor, about, dealing with maybe some family conflict during the holidays as Thanksgiving is rapidly approaching. So that'll be a lot of fun. And then Monday, really excited, because, you know, Scott Jennings, who is on cnn, and he, yeah, he loves, he does all the takedowns. He is going to join me. Really excited, about his new book that is titled A Revolution of Common Sense, which is what I love seeing him bring to CNN and the liberal minds explode. So really looking forward to that one on Monday.

Tim Wildmon: All right. All right, Janet, have a good day. Thanks for joining us.

Jenna Ellis: Thanks so much. And for everyone listening, if you know somebody that is potentially, an applicant. Tim is accepting applications for my future husband, please send that.

Tony Vitagliano: I would not do that.

Jenna Ellis: Oh, we do that all the time.

Tony Vitagliano: And, you know, Jonathan's over there sweating bullets and.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. Comments @AFR. And you know what? I say this all the time, and we've never gotten, like, a single one. This is what's crazy.

Tony Vitagliano: Look, I'm in it, and I'm gonna have to increase the spam filter. Filter.

Jenna Ellis: We gotta filter it out.

Tony Vitagliano: Husband, send them to Ed's email.

Jenna Ellis: Hey, hey, don't Nick some until we go through, you know, Seriously.

Tim Wildmon: All right.

Jenna Ellis: Help me out here.

Tim Wildmon: Well, we will pray for Jenna's future husband. All right.

Jenna Ellis: Thank you.

Tim Wildmon: Thank you, Jenna. Take care.

Fred Jackson: I see a new show starting on afr.

Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

Fred Jackson: The Dating Game.

Chris Woodward: Hearts on Fire.

Tim Wildmon: Every once in a while in my. My world, somebody says, you know, we oughta. We ought to hook these two people up together. And I'm going, you can do it if you want to, but I. I'm not h. Anybody else.

Chris Woodward: I don't.

Tim Wildmon: Hooking up is a bad way to say it. I'm talking together, putting together. You know, this person is this person. They're both single, and they would be wonderful together. Allison, might say sometimes I'm not going. Yeah, well, you go for it, because soon as I hook them up, there I go again. Then something happens, and they go, I can't believe you put me with. What a loser. You. You. You make me, get engaged. Now I've got wasted, wasted two years of my life. Thank you, Tim. Yeah, I'm going like, no, I'm not doing it. You know, I'm just going to leave that to the Lord.

Tony Vitagliano: There you go.

Tim Wildmon: Okay. Because I'm not matchmaking. Squat. Okay. All right. you're listening to today's have you ever match made, Tony?

Tony Vitagliano: I have not. I stay away from the. Stay away from it for the same reasons.

Tim Wildmon: I don't want to be your matchmaker.

Fred Jackson: Absolutely not.

Tim Wildmon: Okay. Well, Chris, you're a matchmaker, aren't you?

Chris Woodward: No, to be honest with you, I wake up every day wondering what my wife saw in me 25 years ago. But God bless her for it.

Frederick Douglass: This is classic Trump. I think everybody just has come to expect it

Tim Wildmon: All right, so, well, how much time we got left here? I want to mention this, and I don't know if this is funny or not, but this happened on Air Force One. Do we have the audio, Piggy?

Chris Woodward: Yes. It's got some background noise, but I do have it.

Tony Vitagliano: Subway.

Tim Wildmon: Okay, now this is not worth very much time, but it. This is classic Trump. President Trump. You know, some he can be. He can be a gentleman, and then sometimes he can be just a,

Fred Jackson: He can be Trump.

Tim Wildmon: He can be a very, very rude, brash New Yorker. Am I right? So there is this reporter, ah, for Bloomberg, which is a news service, and she's on the Air Force One, and President Trump's talking to some of the reporters and she asked him a question having, to do with the Jeffrey Epstein files. And is this. We're about to hear what he says? Yeah. Can you even understand it?

Chris Woodward: There is some background noise. The plane's obviously flying through there.

Tim Wildmon: Okay, go ahead. Clip four.

Jenna Ellis: He's had a lot of meetings on Venezuela. I know you can't tell us what your next steps will be.

Tim Wildmon: So if you didn't hear what he said, this was a, the lady's name is Catherine Lucy with Bloomberg. And he says, quiet, quiet, Piggy. Now, am I wrong? Should I not be laughing about that? Because I laugh about it and then I go, I don't think.

Tony Vitagliano: You don't. If you don't laugh, you cry. That's. That's, Fred.

Tim Wildmon: If you, as a reporter, Fred, have you ever been told quite quiet, picky.

Fred Jackson: Never, never know this is Trump. And with Trump, there's a lack of a gateway between what you're thinking and what you say publicly.

Tim Wildmon: he has no filter, what you're saying?

Fred Jackson: no, no. And I'm sure there's people around him that kind of just grimace when they hear that.

Tim Wildmon: Not at the White House. They say, dear leader is right. Whatever he says and does, well.

Fred Jackson: They'Re not going to disagree because they won't have a job.

Tim Wildmon: You think they're cringing, though, when he calls a woman piggy?

Fred Jackson: Oh, you've got to believe that.

Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

Fred Jackson: Just know that. Okay, this is going to explode. This, and we're going to be asked about this and all these sorts of.

Tim Wildmon: Things about it is she's not even overweight.

Fred Jackson: No.

Tim Wildmon: You know, so it's not even accurate description.

Tony Vitagliano: I don't know.

Tim Wildmon: I wouldn't call a woman, that way anyway. But I'm just saying. Makes it kind of worse is he does this with women and used to that would be a, cancel, disqualify. You called Nikki Haley bird brain for six months. That's that's usually disqualifying, but Trump just rolls on. I think, I think what happens to us, it's kind of like with Charles Barkley. people develop a reputation for insulting everybody. And so you, you hear it so often, you just finally go, well, that's just, that's just Trump being Trump. Whereas if Vance did that, you would go, I'm shocked. And, I'm surprised he did that.

Tony Vitagliano: I think we all can, we can all agree it is unbecoming of what is the president to call, to insult a, reporter, female reporter, especially to call her a name. but I will say this. I've noticed that. I think even the media is just so used to it. This would be like with any other president, with any other candidate. This would be a national story, you know, for a week now. Yes, exactly. But because everybody just has come to expect this with Trump. It'll, it'll be out of the cycle by the end of the show.

Sonic: What people dislike about Trump is also what they like about Trump

I mean, it just, you know, everybody just kind of accepts it.

Tim Wildmon: Quiet, quiet, Piggy.

Fred Jackson: I think what people dislike about Trump is also what they like about Trump. He is not a politician.

Tim Wildmon: Right, right.

Fred Jackson: All right. You know, George W. Bush, even Barack Obama, they would not say this.

Tim Wildmon: Right.

Fred Jackson: He is a New York tycoon, businessman. This is the way he has operated for decades. Has this tycoon.

Tim Wildmon: I agree with everything you're saying. There's a reason. But what's, going to happen is in two years, if a Democrats, running for president, or I hope they wouldn't win, then, and, and, and if, you know, that Democrat, whoever it may be, Gavin Newsome says to Laura Ingram, hush, hush, Piggy. Then you know what we're going to do? We're going to say, that's you. That's awful. We can't accept that behavior.

Tony Vitagliano: That's why we can, you know, that's why it's important for us to now.

Tim Wildmon: Yeah. At least, at least say that, Sonic, we don't agree with that kind of behavior.

Tony Vitagliano: And I'll say this too. Ah, you know, Trump, I made my filter may loosen up. If I had had to deal with the media and it's constant attacks and everything he's had to go through. I mean, they're, they're not kind to him. Let's just put it that way.

Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

Tony Vitagliano: you know, that may factor into it too.

Tim Wildmon: He's dealt, but at some point going, you know, you're the president.

Tony Vitagliano: Yes.

Tim Wildmon: Just, just deflect. Just say, I'm not going to answer that question. I don't appreciate that question. Or next. You don't have to hurl personal insults. He threatened ABC to take away their license, their FCC license, because he didn't like a question that they answered.

Amazon is adding drone delivery to four cities across three states

All right, you're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Chris, you got one more?

Chris Woodward: I do. For people that are listening to us in the cities of San Antonio, Waco, Texas, or Pontiac, Michigan, you might start seeing some Amazon drones in. In your skies. I say that because Amazon has announced it's going to be adding drone delivery to San Antonio and Waco in Texas and Pontiac, Michigan, bringing the total number of Prime Air locations to four across three states. This is, looking to have a big impact, pretty much. According to a Newsweek article that I just shared on our Facebook page, some people may actually get their deliveries 60 minutes after they order a product now, thanks to these drones.

Tim Wildmon: So we talking about the skies?

Tony Vitagliano: look like the Jetsons.

Tim Wildmon: Are we talking about drones shooting across the top of houses?

Chris Woodward: Yes.

Tim Wildmon: With boxes ready to.

Jenna Ellis: Huh?

Fred Jackson: Huh?

Chris Woodward: With boxes.

Tim Wildmon: With boxes.

Chris Woodward: To land on your front yard and drop your package off.

Tony Vitagliano: Dove seasons. Dove season in Mississippi's gonna be real interesting. Yeah.

Tim Wildmon: you know, I could. I don't see how this is gonna maybe.

Tony Vitagliano: I brought back 12 doves and a couple of packages from Amazon.

Tim Wildmon: I don't know whose they are.

Fred Jackson: I don't know.

Tim Wildmon: All right, we'll be back in a minute. Stay with.

Tim, Fred, Tony, and Chris discuss news headlines of the day including the memorial service for Dick Cheney to the upcoming meeting between President Trump and New York's mayor-elect. Jenna Ellis joins the program to discuss birth rate decrease in the UK.