>> Today's Issues continues on AFR with your. Host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

Tim Wildmon M. And welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim, Ed and Ray, we, thank you for that, co host here. And now we're joined by Steve Paisley Jordal. Good morning, Steve.

Steve Jordahl Good morning, everybody.

Tim Wildmon What's on your mind, Steve? Right now.

Steve Jordahl What's on my mind?

Tim Wildmon Yeah.

Steve Jordahl well, we got a World Series coming up. I'm m excited about that.

Tim Wildmon Hey, I watched the end of the game, last night between the, Toronto Blue Jays, Canada's team.

Steve Jordahl Yeah.

Tim Wildmon And, the Seattle Marine. Seattle Mariners. And that was. If you want drama, wait till you get to the seventh. Seventh game of a. In this case, a pennant.

Steve Jordahl And the seventh inning of the seventh game.

Tim Wildmon Yeah, I mean, it was. It was a seventh inning of the seventh game in a, to decide who goes to the World Series against the Dodgers.

Steve Jordahl It'll be the first time these two teams have ever met in the World Series.

Tim Wildmon Toronto and the Dodgers.

Steve Jordahl Toronto and the Dodger Dodgers are defending champions. Toronto hasn't been there since 1993.

Ed Vitagliano Talk about a drought. That's 32 years.

Steve Jordahl Well, not like a couple exactly, but.

Tim Wildmon Did they beat the Braves that year? The Braves beat them. The Atlanta Braves.

Ed Vitagliano That was.

Tim Wildmon You remember that, Ray? that was. That was in. The Braves were in their heyday with.

Steve Jordahl one in 92 versus the Braves and in 93 versus the Phillies.

Tim Wildmon Oh, they want. They won two World Series.

Steve Jordahl What I'm reading.

Tim Wildmon Okay. I remember. I remember the Braves had Tom Glabin, John Smoltz and Greg Matt.

Steve Jordahl What a.

Tim Wildmon What a life.

Ed Vitagliano Oh, my goodness.

Tim Wildmon And they won that. They won their division and went to the World. They won World Series. Many think that was the most underachieving team in history because they should have won three or four World Series at least with given about Atlanta, given that trio of pitchers.

Ed Vitagliano Oh, my goodness.

Steve Jordahl I heard, something that just made me amazed, how smart some of these guys are. Glavin. His catcher was talking, right?

Tim Wildmon Tom Glavin.

Steve Jordahl Tom, is it?

Tim Wildmon Yeah, Tom Glavin, the pitcher.

Tim Wildmon Yeah.

Steve Jordahl his catcher. No, maybe it was Schmaltz is one of the. One of the three. One of the three pitchers. And the catcher was talking. And they had decided before the game never to throw a pitch to a certain batter on the inside. Never do it, because that's a. That's death for a pitcher. So they were pitching him outside until one at Batman and Smoltz. I think it was told the catcher inside, and he shook him off. he insisted inside. So the catcher said, okay, and the guy hit a home run off of him. And after the game, the catcher's going.

Ed Vitagliano What in the world?

Steve Jordahl We said we weren't going to do that. He said, they have a good team. We're going to meet him in the playoffs, and he'll remember that pitch, and I'm going to get him out on it. And he did.

Ed Vitagliano Oh, he's thinking that far ahead.

Tim Wildmon Yeah.

Tim Wildmon that's how I do. You have to view life that way. Always be thinking one step ahead.

Steve Jordahl You wrote a paper on it.

Tim Wildmon that's right.

Tim Wildmon It was a great article I quoted.

Tim Wildmon It's kind of like that's where John Smokes probably got his idea. It was, you know, to say that.

The Los Angeles Dodgers will be favored to win the World Series

All right. You're listening to today's issues. Anyway, the World Series will,

Ed Vitagliano When's it start?

Steve Jordahl it starts on October 24th and 25th. I love the way that this, the MLB put an article up, says that the first two games will begin at Rogers center on October 24th and 25th, respectively. As if it wasn't going to be one after the other order. I don't know.

Tim Wildmon The World Series used to be over in October.

Ed Vitagliano Well, this is going to go. This could go.

Tim Wildmon It's going to November, right?

Steve Jordahl The game seven would be on November one, if necessary.

Tim Wildmon Okay. don't you remember? Right, right. You remember Reggie Jackson was called Mr. October, right.

Tim Wildmon In that one game, hit three home runs. I mean, m. Unbelievable. Now the Dodgers are going to be. I'm not enough of a fan to know, so I'm just asking. Curiosity. Dodgers are going to be pretty heavy favorites in this series. Is that right?

Steve Jordahl I would hate to bet against or to root against a team with Shohei Ohtani on it.

Ed Vitagliano Oh, that guy. Something else.

Tim Wildmon the. Yes. The Los Angeles Dodgers will be favored. They swept the Milwaukee Brewers. They are defending world champions, and they are loaded. Okay. And, why you asked? Because they have the money.

Steve Jordahl Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tim Wildmon And they bought the most good players, and so they're highly favored. I'm torn right here. Of course. I'm a St. Louis Cardinals fan.

Ed Vitagliano You're a National League?

Tim Wildmon Yeah. I grew up. You listen to the Cardinals, on AM radio? Transistor radio. I go back to. I'm a baby boomer. Go back to the transistor radio days. So I grew up, listening to the St. Louis Cardinals on radio. and, And so that's how I've developed a Lifelong following of. Of that franchise, but haven't followed them so much the last 10 years. There's only so much stuff you can put in your head.

Steve Jordahl Yeah.

Ed Vitagliano And only so many hours in the day.

Tim Wildmon Right.

Ed Vitagliano Grandkids.

Tim Wildmon Right, grandkids. And then I have a, I, follow college sports, so.

Ed Vitagliano Right.

Tim Wildmon My brain was. 10 years ago, was going tilt.

Ed Vitagliano Yeah.

Tim Wildmon You know, tilt. You can't, no longer spend time keeping up with the Cardinals like you used to could. But anyway. But I love baseball. Major League baseball. But the Dodgers, the Dodgers, are like one of the, you know, blue bloods of.

Ed Vitagliano Right.

Tim Wildmon A. Ah. Professional sports.

Ed Vitagliano Yes, frankly.

Tim Wildmon Okay. I know what I was going to say. I diverted. I'm torn because, I'm an American, so I would like an American team to win the World Series. But on the other hand, I'm pulling for the underdog because Toronto is probably, halfway down the list of money in the major leagues, and here they are competing with, the, big boys, so to speak. So they're kind of the underdog. So I'm kind of torn on that one, but, Go ahead.

Ed Vitagliano I was going to say.

Tim Wildmon What does the Bible have to say about this? Can you. Do you know what the Bible says about this?

Ed Vitagliano I'm afraid. I'm afraid to look to see what the Bible has to say about watching too much sports. No, I'm probably going to root for the Blue Jays because, I'm, basically an American League fan because I'm a Red Sox fan.

Steve Jordahl So.

Ed Vitagliano The opposite of you.

Tim Wildmon Yeah. you grew up Red Sox fan.

Ed Vitagliano So I generally root for the American League. but they're also underdogs. I like an underdog.

Ray: The Bible only mentions baseball once. Is that right

Tim Wildmon Underdog story. Yeah.

Steve Jordahl The Bible only mentions baseball once.

Tim Wildmon Yeah. Is that right?

Steve Jordahl Genesis 1:1. In the beginning.

Tim Wildmon You've not heard that one, Ray.

Tim Wildmon That's great, but a goodie.

Tim Wildmon Yeah. In the beginning. I do know that. What's the, What's Freeman's first name? The first baseman for the, for the Dodgers. I've heard his testimony. He's a Christian, used to play for the Braves. he's. He's. Freeman's his last name. I'm sorry, I can't remember his first name.

Ed Vitagliano That's what you're talking about. Freddie Freeman.

Tim Wildmon Freddie Freeman. Brady Freeman. He is a strong believer. And, Kershaw.

Steve Jordahl Clayton.

Tim Wildmon Clayton Kershaw for the Dodgers because he's a first. He's a Hall of Famer.

Ed Vitagliano Yeah.

Tim Wildmon On the first ballot. He's A left handed pitcher for the Dodgers. The best left handed pitcher in the history of baseball.

Steve Jordahl Randy Johnson.

Tim Wildmon Well, he'd be right there with him. Kershaw is his last name. Strong believer. In fact, this year when they had Gay Pride day at they were all supposed to wear rainbow hats at the Dodger Stadium.

Ed Vitagliano Yeah.

Tim Wildmon He wore a rainbow and said something to the fact, this is God. God had the idea first, some, something like that.

Ed Vitagliano I don't remember exactly what he stand.

Tim Wildmon What he's saying was, I'm not going to use the rainbow to celebrate LGBTQ because it's God's rainbow. And that's what, so it makes me pull for him even more.

Steve Jordahl You know, we've been hearing athletes say, I, want to give God the glory. And then they go on to talk about the game for a long time. We've been hearing that. But of late I seem to be hearing in college and in the, some in the pros of, of more explicit testimonies. I heard one of the college players say that he, he was going to glorify God no matter if they win. Quarterback. I don't know if we played it or not in here.

Tim Wildmon Oh, that guy's awesome.

Steve Jordahl Yeah.

Steve Jordahl Pavi.

Tim Wildmon How do you pronounce this?

Steve Jordahl Pavi. I don't remember his first name.

Tim Wildmon Diego.

Steve Jordahl Diego Pavi.

Tim Wildmon Yeah.

Tim Wildmon Superhero name.

Steve Jordahl Yeah, right.

Tim Wildmon Ladies and gentlemen.

Steve Jordahl And he was the one that he said he wanted to chase, God.

Ed Vitagliano Yes, that's what he said. I wanted to chase God because everybody should chase God. He said he had some, some losses. And he said, I just felt like God was saying, you, you've got the cart before the horse and you need to chase God instead of chasing wins. And now he's. He's got his life in the right direction and now he's getting some, some wins.

Tim Wildmon Yeah. Oh, is that, that the way it works?

Steve Jordahl It works that way for him, saying.

Ed Vitagliano Well, that's what he said.

Tim Wildmon He beat LSU on Saturday. So that means.

Tim Wildmon So the evidence is there. There it is.

Tim Wildmon There's the proof right there.

Tim Wildmon God will help you win if you do a few things.

Ed Vitagliano God will, God will take your side.

Tim Wildmon What does he got to do with a Christian player on the LSU team, though?

Ed Vitagliano I guess he's not chasing God hard enough.

Tim Wildmon Work on your defense.

Ed Vitagliano That's right. Yes. completely.

Tim Wildmon Brian Kelly, Ryan Kelly, the coach of lsu, is wondering, where is God right now?

Ed Vitagliano He back at Notre Dame.

Tim Wildmon I just put that one on a T for you. Oh, my goodness gracious.

Steve Dahl: Clayton Kershaw sparked controversy with pride themed Dodgers hat

I'll say real quickly, Kershaw, the picture I was talking about for the Dodgers, by the way, is he hers?

Ed Vitagliano He.

Tim Wildmon Is he see pitching right now?

Ed Vitagliano I don't know.

Tim Wildmon Okay. Been following Clayton Kershaw is his name. A devout Christian. If you look up on Wikipedia, what happened was they had 2025 Pride Night in Los Angeles at Dodger Stadium. But Kershaw, it says this is Wikipedia quote, sparked further controversy by writing the bible verse Genesis 9, 12, 16 on his pride themed Dodgers hat. A, passage that describes the rainbow as a covenant sign from God, not a symbol of the LGBTQ community. That's. You know, to do that, and especially to do that in Los Angeles, is bold.

Ed Vitagliano And if he hadn't been Clayton Kershaw, if he'd been so rookie he had kicked off, he might have been sent.

Tim Wildmon Down or find or something. Kershaw, as I say, to see if he's going to pitch in the World Series. Steve. If you don't do it. And Steve can move on to. But anyway, I know. I do know there are two strong believers on. Maybe more on Los Angeles, but I don't know about the elves.

Steve Jordahl Were taken to this last week for sponsoring an award show by a gay rights group, that honored Will, the. The transgender swimmer that swim against, Wriley Thomas. Will Thomas.

Tim Wildmon Leah.

Tim Wildmon Yeah. Who says he's Leah.

Steve Jordahl Right. They honored this gay group honored him and the Dodgers were. Were title sponsors of that.

Tim Wildmon I remember hearing about that.

Steve Jordahl So they're still in them.

Tim Wildmon Is Kershaw pitching in the World Series? you don't know. He.

Ed Vitagliano He says he has not yet confirmed whether he will be healthy enough to participate in. As he is still recovering from a bone spur in his big toe. That side outlined him for the postseason.

Steve Jordahl Now, if Clemens can pitch with a bloody ankle.

Ed Vitagliano Don't you think that wasn't Roger Clemens.

Tim Wildmon Yeah. Be careful, Steve.

Steve Jordahl It wasn't.

Ed Vitagliano It was,

Tim Wildmon You discommitted baseball blasphemy.

Ed Vitagliano Oh.

Tim Wildmon Boston Red Sox.

Ed Vitagliano It was, Oh, good grief.

Tim Wildmon Kurt Shilling.

Steve Jordahl Thank you. Sorry.

Tim Wildmon Good night. But I mean, take that back.

Steve Jordahl I do. I take it. I recant. If Kurt Schilling can pitch with a,

Ed Vitagliano That was heroic. You know, I've. I know this is not a sports show, folks, so those of you, I'll just say this one thing, but I've looked for a photo of that. Of him on the mound with that bloody sock because it's so heroic. I want to make it, like my, my, computer screen wallpaper. Every once in a while, throw that into the rotation. Because it was just.

Tim Wildmon It was iconic.

Ed Vitagliano It was.

Tim Wildmon No doubt about it. And the fact that the Red Sox had not won anything ever.

Ed Vitagliano Yeah.

Tim Wildmon As far as World Series go here, this guy is giving it everything, including a bloody sock, just to. To be able to win.

New Jersey reports mysterious UFOs flying over the state and people freaking out

All right, you're listening to, Today's issues. What's your. What's your first, story that, without a sports. I was trying to decide.

Steve Jordahl You guys remember earlier this year when, they had a bunch of UFOs they thought they didn't know what they were flying over New Jersey and people were freaking out?

Tim Wildmon Yes. We talked about it here.

Steve Jordahl Yeah. No, one knew what they were, and they seemed to disappear. And, people freaking out. Totally freaking out. we later found out the government said it's. All they said was it's not, a ufo, but they didn't elaborate. Well, we found out now there was a conference, at Fort Rucker in August, and apparently, there was a private company that was contracted to do some work with drones. And, they didn't name the company in this article. They didn't make public who they were, but they said that, they had an unconventional appearance, these drones did, so that when they turned sideways, they seemed to disappear. But they were taking credit for.

Tim Wildmon Remember this? Ray is drone every night up in New Jersey.

Tim Wildmon Really? Well, look, if I been living in New Jersey, I'd be freaking out to see this stuff flying, disappearing, what's going.

Tim Wildmon Right. And, I did note that, this company didn't try this in the South.

Steve Jordahl Right.

Tim Wildmon Right.

Ed Vitagliano Now, you're. You're joking, but that's. That. They probably had that in mind. Well, New Jersey, the number of people who are given the right quote, unquote, to own a gun. But you do that down here with Bubba. Bubba and his best friend Bubba.

Steve Jordahl That's right.

Tim Wildmon You're going to lose some drones right there. That's right.

Ed Vitagliano And these. Were these not manned?

Steve Jordahl These were unmanned.

Ed Vitagliano Oh, they're unmanned.

Steve Jordahl They were unmanned. Yeah. So.

Ed Vitagliano Because that would be bad, man. Drones.

Steve Jordahl I don't think they're called drones if they're. Man, they're called helicopters.

Ed Vitagliano Well, I thought this. I thought this company had drones. I thought this company had them.

Tim Wildmon But anyway.

There is what astronomers say is a comet that is entering our atmosphere

Anyway, so what? But we got a meteor out there running around, our solar system that we don't know what's going on. Am I right?

Steve Jordahl 31 Atlas are calling it, and,

Tim Wildmon Tell people what we're talking about who haven't been Paying attention.

Steve Jordahl There is what most astronomers say is a comet that is entering our atmosphere. As comets do, they kind of come into the solar system. They usually slingshot around our sun and then move, move away.

Tim Wildmon And it was a great description.

Steve Jordahl Thank you.

Tim Wildmon Of a comet.

Steve Jordahl And But there's some question. There's one particular guy in particular. his name is or. Or Beth.

Tim Wildmon Macbeth.

Steve Jordahl Obeth O B E R T H Oberth.

Tim Wildmon He's from, from Harvard, right?

Steve Jordahl no, no, no, no, no. It's the Oberg. His Avi Loeb. Avi L O E B Loeb is.

Ed Vitagliano The guy at Harvard.

Steve Jordahl Yeah. The orbith is the effect that get the slingshot thing. But yeah, he said that it might be a mothership, a UFO with little green men. And he said.

Tim Wildmon Did he say little green man or.

Steve Jordahl He didn't say little green men, but that's the way I see it. A mothership for extraterrestrial.

Tim Wildmon Come on.

Ed Vitagliano Yeah, listen, you know, you know, I'm jumping in here. It is not an alien mothership. And really the, the number of people who are believing this, the government has already said, NASA has already said. I've read actual, you know, a lot of other physicists said. Yet there is some unique signatures on this Atlas 31 Atlas. But it, this is a comet. This is a, you know, regular asteroid.

Tim Wildmon It's regular mill. Garden variety.

Ed Vitagliano It is. And But I'm telling you there's something in the water in our country because on social media there are people who are living in abject fear that we're about to be visited by aliens, conquered by aliens, what have you. And this is just another one of the things where people are just freaking out. People just need. Jesus, they just need to have, you know, a piece about, about the future. But people are lit up about this.

Steve Jordahl I, I don't understand why people lit up about this particular one. When we've had literally had congressional hearings on UFOs that people are claiming pilots in the Air Force are claiming are doing extraterrestrial things.

Tim Wildmon Yeah, but is this the ray. Is this the rectangular comet?

Tim Wildmon Yeah.

Tim Wildmon It's symmetric, isn't it?

Tim Wildmon Yeah. You mean this so called hiding on the other side of the sun?

Tim Wildmon It's been behind m. The sun. Now you've heard of the dark side of the moon.

Tim Wildmon That's right.

Tim Wildmon You know the.

Tim Wildmon Now you got gonna come slingshot now.

Ed Vitagliano Well, this Avi Loeb says who does this? This Harvard physicist, okay. He said that would be a perfect opportunity for a mothership to release drones to come m. And check us out. But, but to Steve's point, the all these congressional hearings and stuff are adding to the paranoia on the part of people. We kind of have these periodically where you have these UFO flaps and we have. I remember them in the 60s and 70s you'd have this cluster of sightings and then people would start to worry about, is this the end of the world? It's war of the world.

Tim Wildmon You got the interviews from the people out in the country. Remember the, Remember those interviews?

Ed Vitagliano Oh, yeah.

Tim Wildmon And every once in a while.

Ed Vitagliano You get taken up on a ship. Yeah.

Tim Wildmon And things were done to me.

Ed Vitagliano Things.

Tim Wildmon I can't talk about speakable things.

Ed Vitagliano Things were done to me.

Tim Wildmon I just want to ask them where they. Did they benefit you though?

Ed Vitagliano Helps in your life, Like a healthy you.

Tim Wildmon Yeah. Did it,

Tim Wildmon Are you a better person?

Tim Wildmon Are you a better person for going through, for going.

Tim Wildmon How has that changed your life?

Ed Vitagliano But you know what? I'm m not getting into explanations because every time I go down that road, Tim Mox.

Tim Wildmon I don't, I don't mean to.

Ed Vitagliano Oh, it's mockery and I'm just not doing it anymore. I'm not falling into that trap.

Tim Wildmon I think we can all agree that ET Was a great movie though, can we not?

Ed Vitagliano I didn't like it.

Tim Wildmon Oh, really?

Ed Vitagliano Nothing blew up?

Tim Wildmon Okay.

Just encourage kids to make friends with strange looking beings before Halloween

Ed Vitagliano There was, there's no.

Tim Wildmon No, but he got the phone home.

Ed Vitagliano Yeah, he got the phone on home. That's just. Yeah, just. Yeah, just encourage kids to make friends with strange looking beings that appear in their bedrooms. Yeah, that's.

Tim Wildmon Tell them that the week before Halloween.

Ed Vitagliano Right? Yeah, yeah, that's right.

Close Encounters of the Third Kind has five different kinds of encounters

So next time, what was that other.

Tim Wildmon Sci fi movie that we. That most of us.

Tim Wildmon Close Encounters.

Tim Wildmon Yeah, Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

Tim Wildmon Right.

Tim Wildmon Richard Dreyfus was the actor. And didn't it have something to do with that, iconic mountain out in Utah or something?

Ed Vitagliano Devil's. Devil's Mountain or something.

Steve Jordahl Anybody know what the first two kinds are?

Tim Wildmon Yeah.

Ed Vitagliano Yes. What? First kind is a, sighting.

Tim Wildmon Right.

Ed Vitagliano and then the second, kind is like a sighting up close. I think third kind is when you have a visitation or you cross paths with an alien. Fourth kind is an abduction.

Tim Wildmon Right.

Ed Vitagliano And then a fifth kind, I think is the probe.

Steve Jordahl Wow.

Tim Wildmon Yeah, I knew, I knew that was.

Tim Wildmon We're gonna stop right there.

Ed Vitagliano Something like that. I think that. I think, I think I got those right.

Steve Jordahl That's right.

When is the comet supposed to fly out from behind the sun

Tim Wildmon Probing question though, again.

Tim Wildmon This so called comet.

Tim Wildmon Yep, yep. Let's see. So when is the comet supposed to fly out? from behind the sun?

Steve Jordahl We should take a couple days.

Ed Vitagliano It's in November.

Steve Jordahl Yeah.

Tim Wildmon oh, okay.

Steve Jordahl And that's why they say that also, you'll know because if it changes, like velocity or trajectory.

Tim Wildmon Yeah.

Steve Jordahl they'll know when it comes out from behind.

Steve Martin: The no Kings protest was actually a protest of democracy

Tim Wildmon All right, next. We got three minutes. Steve, what do you got?

Steve Jordahl All right, let's do. I want to close the books, tie, a bow around the no Kings protest and have, a listen to, But, Baya Ungar Sargon.

Tim Wildmon Easy for you now. We've already had a Zoran Bandami on.

Steve Jordahl Yeah.

Tim Wildmon So now we're going with who?

Steve Jordahl Bhatia Ungar Sargon, who is a commentator, kind of an honest liberal commentator. She was on cnn, and this is what she had to say about the no Kings, protest.

Ray These protests were overwhelmingly white. They were overwhelmingly elderly people, older people. Now, again, you know, white boomers have the right to have a mass therapy session about the fact that Donald Trump. But to call it a no Kings protest, to act like he is a king, is so utterly preposterous. This is a man who won the popular vote. He won every swing state. He is a person who is enacting the exact agenda he promised he was going to enact while he was campaigning. And so what they are actually protesting is the absolute perfection of American democracy, where a person campaigned on an agenda or won the popular vote and is now enacting that agenda. So it was actually a protest of democracy.

Steve Jordahl That's.

Ed Vitagliano That's. That's.

Tim Wildmon She just bingoed.

Ed Vitagliano Yes, I. Listen, I, like, I. I can live and get along with honest liberals. Okay? I don't. I don't even like hypocritical conservatives. Let's just tell it. Tell it the way it is. It's the truth.

Tim Wildmon what was your name again?

Steve Jordahl Bhatia Angar Sargon.

Tim Wildmon Yeah. How do you go home and tell your mom this is who you're taking out? Hey, we're going. Who are you going to prom with, huh?

Steve Jordahl Going to prom with Bhatia Angar Sargon.

Tim Wildmon Yeah. All right.

Ed Vitagliano Yeah, Sargon II how about that? That's a Syrian name.

All right. We're out of time, and it's probably a good thing

Tim Wildmon All right.

Ed Vitagliano Ah, we got some real news. Yeah. Talking about baseball and aliens.

Tim Wildmon We're. We're out of time, and it's probably a good thing. Okay? And we'll see you tomorrow, everybody.