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Tim Wildman hosts Today's Issues on American Family Radio Network

>> Ed Vitagliano: Welcome.

>> Tim Wildmon: To today's issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association. Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Today's Monday, October 6th, 2025. We, as always, thank you for listening to AFR. Well, joining me in studio this morning is Ed Vitagliano. Good morning, brother Ed.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: And Fred Jackson.

>> Fred Jackson: Hi there, Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're my brother too, Fred, but I don't call you. I don't know why I don't call you that. But yes. so fellas, we got Shareathon coming up here at afr. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday starting tomorrow. What are we gonna be doing here, Ed?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, we are going to be interacting with our possibly billions of listeners. Okay. Might be a slight, slight exaggeration. Sharethon. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, three days in the fall, three days in the spring. We come to our listeners and we ask them to help support American Family Radio so we can on the air for another six months till the next Sharathon. And our listeners are great to support those who can support the ministry. So this show, for example, will be on during Share a thon for two hours instead of just the 90 minutes. But all through the day we will be encouraging, people to give, and support, the ministry.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, it's a lot of fun, Brad. Share a thon time.

>> Fred Jackson: Absolutely. And one of the aspects of Sharathon that I just really enjoy is the testimonies that we get from our listeners because that is so encouraging to us, to see how God is using American Family Radio to bless the lives of so many people across the country. And, you know, testimonies about listening to a program and they heard the gospel and they accepted Christ as their savior. Testimonies, from people. I'm amazed I have AFR on 24 hours a day at my house, that sort of thing. So I just. It's a great time of encouragement for us folks. So, we're looking forward to hearing.

>> Tim Wildmon: From you Sheriff on tomorrow, Wednesday and Thursday. Three days in the fall, three days in the spring. But as you know, if you listen to the sheriff on we don't just sit here and say send money, send money, send money, send money. Although that would be a good subliminal approach I think. But I'm not sure it would work Right. So we're going to stick with our traditional radio programming and it'll be a lot of fun interaction, as you say Fred, with a lot of our hearing from, back from a lot of our listeners and interviews we're going to do and we'll cover some of the news of the day. So we will be here again tomorrow morning. I'm going to be on with Jenna at Jenna, Ellis at 7 Central. Think we start at 6.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, I'm going to be here at 6.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Fred Jackson and Bert.

>> Fred Jackson: Brother Bert.

>> Tim Wildmon: Brother Bert Harper. Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: Scott the alarm set.

>> Tim Wildmon: And so there's a contrast in geography right there. Burt from Mississippi and they're going to be. And Fred from Canada. They're going to be joining together.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Teaming up.

>> Tim Wildmon: They're going to. That, that north mesh with the south is going to create a tornado of where we're going with this.

>> Ed Vitagliano: But I will say this Tim, that's kind of what American family radio does. It brings people together.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, people from varied backgrounds.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. Very.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Dialects, which you'll get two different dialects. Fred and Bert.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, you choose which one you want to.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And Fred and Bert were they, you know, that was a great duo on Sesame Street.

>> Tim Wildmon: It was for. Yeah. And then Ernie came along.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Kick, kick Fred out. Fred became a bird. Yep. After that.

Right now, negotiators for Hamas terrorists and Israel are meeting

All right, you're listening to today's issues on this Monday, October 6th. What's our first story, Fred?

>> Fred Jackson: Well, this story needs a whole lot of prayer, I'll tell you. Right. Right now, negotiators for Hamas terrorists and Israel. The United States will send representatives. This is talks, they're at a Red Sea resort right now. This is aimed at, at seeing if President Trump's peace plan that we learned about last week, his 20 point peace plan. If they can actually bring this off now, the Hamas terrorists tomorrow. Tomorrow is the two year anniversary of that massacre that occurred on October 7th, 2023. Right now, we have, they say about 48 hostages, 20 of whom are alive and at the top of this agenda. Now Hamas has indicated they are willing to release these hostages. However, as we say it's a 20 point plan. There are other things that are not committed to yet. We'll put it that way. for instance, part of this plan calls for Hamas to relinquish all control, to disarm. Hamas has not said yet they're willing to do that. there are some other things. Complication. What happens. Israel supposed to withdraw under this plan completely. And I believe there's some nervousness amongst that. Now, Secretary, of State Marco Rubio was asked about all of this. He put it very well, what's at stake here? Cut number four.

>> Marco Rubio: The second part of this, and it's going to be a much tougher part of it, is what happens after that. Who's going to run Gaza moving forward? It can't be Hamas. It can't be a terrorist organization. And the demobilization of terrorism in Gaza is the end goal here in terms of ensuring that this never happens again. That whole place has to be rebuilt. That's not going to happen in 72 hours or six weeks. I mean, that's going to take some time. But this is the closest we have been. This is the most progress we have seen.

>> Fred Jackson: Now, Israeli UN Ambassador Danny Dannon. Now, he's hoping for peace, but he said Israel is ready to finish the job if they can't come to a settlement here. Cut number three.

>> Ed Vitagliano: We pray that the Hamas will go along. You never know with those guys. You know, it's a terrorist organization. We had a bad experience with them, so we are hopeful, but we never know what they will do. And I hope that they will accept the deal. If they will not do that, we will have to do it the hard way.

>> Fred Jackson: Now, this morning, I heard a very, very compelling interview with one of those Hamas hostages that was released. Eli Sharabi is his name. He was on with Fox, this morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: He.

>> Fred Jackson: He was held by the HAMAS terrorists for 16 months. The Hamas terrorists on October 7, 2023, killed his wife and children, and then he was held for 16 months. He talks about what it was like being held by Hamas. Cut number five.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Was there anyone there that spoke up and said, this is not right, no way.

>> Speaker F: That's not why they kidnapped us. for them, it was more than right. And they wanted to make us suffer. And, you know, their rage and hate was, everywhere. We've been humiliated daily basis. asking permission to go to the bathroom, to speak, to breathe. we begged for. For food every day. sometimes it was violence against us. One day they broke my ribs. but the starvation was the worst thing ever. When I was on October 7th I was more than 70 kilos. And when I was released 16 months later I was 44 kilos.

>> Tim Wildmon: He's choking. Pounds. He's he's talking what we would refer to as pounds. His weight.

>> Fred Jackson: Weight.

>> Tim Wildmon: His weight dropped drastically.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, he had a beg for food. They broke his ribs.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well that's what they do to hostages.

>> Fred Jackson: They're monsters.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Unfortunately Ed, well I, I gotta say I'm, I'm kind of pessimistic about this whole thing. This would be great if Hamas agreed, but I don't, I don't trust terrorists. Okay. I've said this a lot. I don't trust communists, I don't trust terrorists. And Hamas is a terrorist organization. I find it hard to believe that even though part of this deal would be that Hamas or any other terrorist organization are not going to be allowed to run Gaza, but I think Hamas would be in the background. I think whoever was running Gaza would be a puppet organization. so I know that Israel is under tremendous pressure I think from President Trump to get this deal done. President Trump, I think over the weekend mentioned the fact that Israel has lost a lot of support from around the world because they continue to prosecute this war against Hamas to try to finish that organization. so we'll see. I think obviously people can pray that there would be peace in that part of the world. But I don't, I don't, I don't see a terrorist organization that has been committed to the elimination of the state of Israel making any deal long term that will prevent them from trying to see that come to fruition.

Do you think Christians in the US care more about Middle East situation

>> Tim Wildmon: Do you think we as American Christians and Canada too, but Christians in the west, but particularly in the US care more about this situation because it involves the Holy Land?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I think so, yeah. I think so. because now I'm sure there are Christians in our country who care about, and should care about what's going on to Christians in Nigeria for example. But I don't think we pay attention to a lot of the kinds of inter tribal ethnic skirmishes and wars that are going on in other parts of the world. But we do have a particular interest obviously in the Middle east because, because it's the land of the Bible, it's, you said the Holy Land. There's biblical prophecy that we expect at some point will begin to unfold or continue to unfold. So that I think that absolutely that's of particular interest.

>> Tim Wildmon: Also the Jews go back thousands of years and God has a covenant with, yes, Right, that's right, yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And that's also in the. In the scriptures. So, it's not that Christians don't care about what's happening other places around the world. We always should, but there are places that are especially important to Christians, and obviously Israel. And in a broader way, the Middle east is one of those places.

Just my opinion, but I'm getting concerned about President Trump's attitude towards Israel

>> Fred Jackson: Just my opinion, but I'm getting concerned about President Trump's attitude, towards Israel. He said some things on the weekend that we cannot repeat on the air, but here was one quote. He said, Bibi went too far in Gaza and Israel lost a lot of support in the world. And Trump went on to say, now I will bring back all that support.

>> Tim Wildmon: Bibi's referring to Benjamin Netanyahu.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. Bibi went too far. Prime Minister, what would America do if there was a terrorist group just over the border in Mexico? And Bibi has mentioned this. Netanyahu has mentioned this. If you take the population equivalent, let's say October 7, 2023, the terrorist group just over the Mexican border came in and massacred 40,000Americans. That's what we're talking about.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. Let's see.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Percentage wise.

>> Fred Jackson: Percentage wise, yeah. And what would we say if some UK leader or president of France said, hey, America, back off. You've done too much, you've blown this? We would tell them to go pound sand.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: And I just. I think I. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think President Trump is at the point he wants a victory. He wants a foreign policy victory, even if it cost Israel something. And that concerns me.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, me too. we'll see where this goes in the next few days. I don't think Israel should be pushed or forced into a, agreement with, a ceasefire or end of the war, if that. It's going to leave them more vulnerable again because, now's the time to end this. And they, You'll never end the. The ideology of Hamas that is that, all Jews should die.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: And. And that the, Palestinians there should take over the country of Israel. push the Jews into the sea. Right. I mean, that's basically what their charter calls for. but, anyway, we'll see. It's a very volatile situation right now. Ah. What I don't understand sometimes with President Trump is he. He just. Sometimes he'll just flip on a. Without, like, is there. Is there a deadline here or not?

>> Fred Jackson: No, not right now.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. But he, he said there was, and now.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, he said yesterday Sunday was a deadline.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: And so there's Obviously, no settlement yet.

>> Tim Wildmon: So there is no. Sunday wasn't a deadline.

>> Fred Jackson: No.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. That's what I'm saying. Is he. I would rather him say there is no deadline, then to say there is a deadline and then that it pass and then nothing happens. Which,

President Trump said he's considering sending cruise missiles to Ukraine

So, anyway, we'll add your thoughts on President Trump on this situation. He desperately wants a Nobel Peace Prize. And he. No, I mean, and he.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And he really has. He has done quite a bit. I mean, in his first term, he had the Abraham Accords. He is trying to get deals done around the world. He tried to get a conclusion to the war between Russia and Ukraine. Russia wasn't having any of it. And to some extent, Ukraine, understandably, was not willing to give up a third of its country. so he is. President Trump is trying to get peace deals.

>> Tim Wildmon: but see, this is where President Trump. Again, sometimes when you're critical President Trump, people say, well, you don't need to be, because, you know, he's God's anointed for America.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, I'm talking politically here. Sometimes, Sometimes President Trump does things that you just can't. I guess it's 3D chess. Right? That's what we're told. Right. Because, he said about a few months ago about Ukraine, that they need to give it up because there's no chance for them to win. There's just going to be more death and destruction. They need to. To surrender a third of their country or whatever like that. Then, like two weeks ago, he goes, hey, Ukraine may take all of their territory back.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So, I mean, you know what I'm saying. You just don't know.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And I think over the weekend, President Trump said he's considering sending cruise missiles to Ukraine, which will give that country the capacity to reach Moscow, which, that's. That, I think leads us closer to an open conflict with Russia.

>> Tim Wildmon: Why would you say something like that?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I. I don't know. I don't know why you. First of all, I don't know why you consider. Since he's been wanting to keep us out of conflicts in Europe.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know why you even consider, even privately consider, sending, sophisticated weapons to Ukraine, which could draw us into a conflict. You know, Russia's already been buzzing, some of the NATO countries with, drones and even some, minor incursions with aircraft.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, they're.

>> Ed Vitagliano: They all already look like they're itching for a fight with NATO, which I think would be foolish on Russia's part. But Trump promised to keep us out of wars like that. So I don't know why you, and certainly you don't publicly.

>> Tim Wildmon: Are you sure he said that?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I'll check and find out the circumstances.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, well, anyway, because I didn't read that anywhere and I read the Daily Mail and if it's not in there, then I don't know that I think it's newsworthy, so.

U.S. considering supplying Ukraine with long range missiles, Vice President Vance says

All right. You're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Well, the negotiations go on today in in the Middle east between Israel and Hamas with. Now the interesting thing is there that, the, Arab countries that surround Israel have signed off on this. Yes, right.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: So, they, they, they want Hamas to surrender, basically their weapons, lay down their weapons and you know, discontinue, the fight.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So what are you going to quote.

>> Ed Vitagliano: This, from the BBC?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Trump considering supplying Ukraine with long range missiles. Vance says the U.S. is considering a request by Ukraine for long range Tomahawk missiles. US Vice President J.D. vance has said, however, Vance added President Donald Trump will be making the final determination on the matter.

>> Tim Wildmon: So you agree with that?

>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I don't think we should be doing that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Because Ukraine, listen, they've been taking a beating, all right. Even some of their cities. You remember how they, touted the drone attack? A couple of successful drone attacks. If we give them Tomahawk missiles, they're going to aim for Moscow to do damage to Russia because of the damage that Russia's done to Ukrainian cities. And what if they, what if they killed high ranking Russian officials? Those missiles came from us. The fact that a proxy nation used our missiles to attack the capital of Russia could draw us into an armed conflict. What if Russia says, okay, they did that? So, you know, we're going to attack American interests or we're going to attack Poland. These are the kind of things, Oddly, I'm, I said oddly. I've been listening to a podcast about World War I, several, podcasts on the subject. And it is really strange how very small things can start a world war. And I don't want to see us involved. I don't see anyone involved in a world war. I don't want to see us involved simply because we decided, well, let's just give them Tomahawk cruise missiles. Yeah, I just don't agree with it.

>> Fred Jackson: I think it is safe to say at this point that the, summit in Anchorage back, what, about a month ago, that accomplished nothing. There was a great deal of optimistic talk coming out of It. But I mean, Putin went home and he started firing.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Fred Jackson: Again, drones. I mean, there's.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I think he played Trump right there.

>> Fred Jackson: I think you're right.

>> Tim Wildmon: I think he played Trump. Right. Trump doesn't get played by a lot of people, but Putin is. Got him fiddling.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Ah, Putin has clearly in mind what he wants in Ukraine. He either wants it under direct Russian control or as one of the military, prime ministers, Defense Department officials, whatever you call them. Lavrov, he said there will never be a government in Ukraine that is not pro Russian.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's what Putin intends. And as long as the US And NATO are not explicitly going to get involved in it, Putin's gonna do what he wants.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. You're listening to today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening, Tim, Fred and Ed.

Hundreds of hikers are stuck on Mount Everest because of a massive snowstorm

by the way, did you guys see where hundreds of people are stuck on the slopes of Mount Everest? Yeah. Because of a massive snowstorm. I guess it was unexpected. And, these people are in serious peril up there.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That part of the world. You're going to be in danger. It's dangerous when the weather's perfect.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who goes to rescue them?

>> Fred Jackson: Well, that's the problem.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, how do you do it? Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: And I mean, if. If the mountain is. Has got fog or whatever on the top there, the storm is still continuing. There's no way you can set down there.

>> Tim Wildmon: I've read about, Mount Everest because I'm never going to hike to the top. You call it a hike?

>> Fred Jackson: I don't climb.

>> Tim Wildmon: Climb. Anyway, I've read some stories about Mount. It's the tallest mountain in the world. Yeah. Ah, right. I don't know how many feet. Anybody know how many.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I will. I will question you want me to save it first?

>> Tim Wildmon: But there are. Well, no, that's okay. There are, Okay, I don't mean to sound morbid, but 20 is 29,000ft. Now, I've hiked 22, 23,000ft, a couple times.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Have you?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, just training for basketball season. And the air up there. Oh, it's hard.

>> Fred Jackson: yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, you can't jump very high. Hard, to get a basketball goal up there.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So while all the basketball players were running stairs, I'm at the gym. You were climbing again.

>> Tim Wildmon: That never 20, 29,000ft.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right. But you know, you.

>> Tim Wildmon: 20, 23 right in there. You know, that's. But, But I've read. I've seen people again. I don't mean to sound morbid, but I don't know how to describe this. The. All these hikers that have. They're going up the mountain. Right. I'm at current.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And about every mile to see a dead body.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. Because no one's going up there.

>> Tim Wildmon: that's, that's green boots from the 70s.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. That kind of thing. I mean, it's really, treacherous, dangerous and. Yeah. I mean, but, but I don't think they've ever had a situation like this where you have all these hikers, hundreds of them, stuck.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, and you can't get a helicopter up there anyway, so to land. Hardly. So I don't know what, what's going to happen to these poor folks.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And like you said, it is dangerous. So you can't just send. It's not getting lost in Yellowstone where you can send people out to look for them without endangering the search party.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. That's what I'm talking about. All right, we'll be back momentarily with more of today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Stay with us.

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American Family Radio will have a share a thon Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday

Hey, welcome back to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim, Ed and Fred, thank you for listening to AFR on this Monday, October 6, tomorrow, Wednesday and Thursday. Thursday follows Wednesday. That's how it works, right?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Absolutely.

>> Tim Wildmon: So Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, we have share a thon on American Family Radio. So, we're gonna have a lot of fun and we're gonna talk with people from around the country who listen to afr. We're gonna do interviews, we're going to take your phone calls. So be prepared to call us and make a donation and be as generous as you can. God sees. What? Did I say something wrong? No, God, I didn't get to finish my sentence. Hold on a second. God sees your heart.

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>> Tim Wildmon: And knows you know, what you're capable of.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: And so get ready to.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And you're saying that cuts both ways.

>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, you know what? In all seriousness, the Lord has always provided.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: For us here at AFA and AFR over our 40 plus years of existence. It, so things won't be any different this time. Our listeners who, who value the ministry of AFR will come through again tomorrow, Wednesday and Thursday and Thursday night. We'll be happy. Yeah, you know, we'll be happy with the results. So we want to thank everybody for. Because listen, folks, you know, we can't make it without. We're not, a station or a radio network that gets. There's not a big billionaire somewhere to underwriting our existence. There's not, we don't get any government money, nor would we take it if it were offered. We are supported because strings are attached when you take government money. We are supported by people who write, who give us $50 a month, $100 a month. They may write a thousand, two thousand dollar check during charathon. That's people being very generous. So those are the salt in the earth folks out there who believe in our mission, who support us, on a regular basis. So on a monthly basis, that's what we. If we can count on your donation during them for once a month, you know, a draft or whatever, that's the best way to go. All right, you're listening to afr, Tim, Ed and Fred.

Judge rules against sending Oregon National Guard troops to protect ICE in Portland

Next, story. Fred.

>> Fred Jackson: Well, we all know that President Trump, scored a victory, for sure when he sent national, Guard troops into Washington D.C. they have seen a tremendous decrease in crime there of course, legally he, didn't have a problem because it is the District of Columbia, not a state. But, we all know that President Trump believes, places like Chicago and Portland, Oregon and Los Angeles have a real crime problem. And he believes that. He, you know, I want to send troops in there, particularly to support federal, buildings, ice, buildings, in Chicago, in Portland, Oregon. Well, on the weekend, a judge who he appointed in his first term, U.S. district Judge Karen Immercut, she ruled against him. she said, you cannot, assign Oregon National Guard troops into Portland to deal with the violence that we have seen some of their protests outside of ICE headquarters there in Portland, Oregon. so, Trump, the Trump administration turned around within hours and said, okay, we'll move California National Guard troops up there. Well, this judge was not too pleased with that. She rendered almost immediately another decision saying, no, that you can't. And she said she was quite insulted that the Trump administration would do that. So remember, what he wants to do. National Guard troops to help protect these, ICE and federal facilities in these Democrat run cities. Well, Fox legal analyst Greg Jarrett says the law says the President has the authority to send troops in there.

>> Speaker G: Cut number eight, the governing statute, which authorizes the President to act as he is, was broadly written by Congress. It does not prevent the President from mobilizing the National Guard for use in a neighboring state like California. Just the opposite. The law specifically says that the President can call into federal service units from any state. It does not say the Guard is restricted within its own state. And of course, once the President federalizes troops, well, the jurisdiction extends federally across state boundaries. And the judge's backup argument is the 10th Amendment, which as you know, reserves powers to the states, not delegated to the federal government. But wait a minute, Congress did delegate National Guard power to the President and he's exercising it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, let me ask you this. M. see if you know the answer. Just to simplify this for our listeners in Portland, and I don't know about Chicago, you have ice, the Immigration Customs Enforcement Agency, they're going out and arresting people to deport them. Correct? Because these people have committed crimes. They're drug dealers, they're, they're gang bangers, whatever the case may be, they're arresting the worst of the worst right there. After them, isis, which is their job. Get them off the streets of the US and get them out of our country if you can. Now, so in response to this, these far lefties, I would call them antifa types, some of Them, they are against any kind of arrest and deportation of these people.

>> Fred Jackson: Correct.

>> Tim Wildmon: So they confront the ICE agents at their buildings where the, where they're detaining the, the illegal immigrants.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Am I on track so far? Yeah. Okay. So what President Trump is doing, by the way, this is. Fits in with what, Kristi Noem said about her a. About her agents. Department of, Homeland Security agents under threat. But so back to the. Just to simplify things. So these, the federal building where this is happening, and the, the agents who are protecting it are asking for local police help. Right. And they're not getting it, I guess. So President Trump has said, okay, then we'll send in the federal, Because these, these, the mayors of Portland and Chicago example would be lefties themselves. So they're not going to send the police. They're going to, in fact, they're going to. Not going to allow their policemen to help ice. Right. Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: We have a recording.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: Where apparently ICE officials called for help police to come and help them in Chicago. In, In Chicago, yeah. so have a listen to this.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. I want to play that.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: But just to finish this out here. So that President Trump is calling, in National Guardsmen to help defend these, buildings and these detention centers.

>> Fred Jackson: Correct.

>> Tim Wildmon: This is different from what happened in Washington, D.C. and what might happen in Memphis and New Orleans. It's been talked about where the National Guard would be put on the streets to do patrolling for law enforcement purposes. This is a defensive posture to protect federal assets, including people. Have I set that up pretty well?

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Yeah. Okay. So. But the governors and the mayors are resisting even that.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: in these blue states. Okay. What are we about to hear, Fred?

>> Fred Jackson: We're going to hear police band radio instructing Chicago Police Department not to go to the aid of ICE agents in Chicago who were having trouble. The protests got kind of violent there. Cut number nine heard the chief of.

>> Tim Wildmon: Patrol clear everybody up. We're not responding over there. Radio tickets. And again, per the Chief of patrol, we have all the units that. Per 999. Chief of Patrol said all units clear out from there. We're not sending anybody over to that location. 62. We're gonna clear out as soon as we can spot. We're, we're like, locked in over here. So we're gonna do the best we can to get out of here as soon as we can.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. So there you have it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: She's, this rat that's reprehensible.

Chicago mayor signs executive order saying city will not allow ICE agents on city property

If they, if the order has come down in within the Chicago Police Department to not respond to requests. I'm not even sure that's legal for them to not respond to a 911 request. I don't know if it was done through 9, the 911 system, or if they just called and said, hey, we need some help. Ordinarily, law enforcement sticks together. Whatever the level, whether it's local, state, federal, they help each other out when they can. but if, if they are being told not to go and help that one one. Apparently it was ice, wasn't it?

>> Fred Jackson: That's my understand.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Was asking for help in pushing back, handling the crowd that was around.

>> Tim Wildmon: 1 1. Chicago PD did not come. They said, don't go. Yeah, don't go. Help.

>> Fred Jackson: Now just a couple of hours ago, the mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, signed an executive order saying, the city is not going to allow ICE agents. Now, we're not talking about National Guard. We're not going to allow ICE agents to, gather on municipal properties to carry out an operation to arrest illegal immigrants. So if it's any property owned by the city, a parking lot, whatever the case may be, we are not going to allow. I'm not sure how legal that is.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't think that's legal at all.

>> Fred Jackson: Anyway, just, just has a demonstration of how anti, these cities are towards any federal assets like this. He signed an executive order saying, we're not going to allow these people.

>> Tim Wildmon: They wouldn't let Kristi Noem go the restroom.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's true.

>> Tim Wildmon: You see that the other day, that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Was at a, either a city or state. Was it a city?

>> Tim Wildmon: No, this is a city owned building. City owned building, a municipal building.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And she know, come in here who's.

>> Tim Wildmon: Secretary of Health and Human. Excuse me, Secretary of Homeland Security. And they told her, you can't come in here. The building. and she said, wait a minute. She said. Now she didn't. She, she went somewhere else. But she said this building receives a million dollars in federal money. Yeah, she found out.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And it's also a public building.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: So anybody can go in there. You don't even have to be participating in business there. You can just walk off the street, say, I got to go to the restroom and use the facilities because it's a public, building. And they turned her away. So the city government of Chicago and the governor's office in Illinois is completely being combative with the federal, government and federal agents, Federal, agencies and federal agents. And you know, furthermore, you remember Governor Gavin Newsom of California. They and that may have been the state legislature too. I forgot if it was a law or an executive order from the governor's office. And he said, you got to get these masks off of ICE agents. And of course, we know what will happen then. They'll be doxxed and they'll be, they'll be, their families will be in danger.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So here, here's the way this probably could play out, because you have governors, you have mayors and governors in these deep blue states that are pushing, they are pushing back against the federal government. Okay, so what happens if in Chicago, ICE does gather on public land to. In preparation for a raid? What is Chicago going to do? Are they going to send the cops in to arrest federal government agents? And then the federal government agent says, no, you're not going to arrest us. We're going to call in the FBI and they're going to arrest you guys. You're going to arrest cops from Chicago. This is what happens when you have radicals in charge of government, whether it's city or state. Same thing in California. What are they going to do? They going to arrest ICE agents who continue to wear their masks?

>> Tim Wildmon: listen, you have to have law and order or, everything breaks down.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: And what the left is doing is they're saying these are unjust laws. They've decided themselves these are unjust laws. I'm talking about immigration enforcement laws. Their belief is that the left believes. They don't believe in borders. That's why Biden let millions and millions of people come in here. So if fundamentally you don't believe in borders, then you don't believe, you really don't believe in law and order.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ah, you really don't. So that's manifesting itself by these behaviors from these blue, state governors and mayors. And I hate to say this, but I don't know what percentage, but it's got to be 25% or more of our fellow Americans. They don't believe in immigration laws either. So they're not, you know, not even for criminals. No, they don't. They don't.

>> Ed Vitagliano: ICE is going after criminals.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's unbelievable.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Drug dealers and gang members and murderers and the, the Democratic Party. These cities and states that are blue are defending.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, they are. The criminals is there. Well, that's where the AOC and the, Bernie Sanders and that wing of the Democrat Party, where the energy is in their party.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right now they're rejecting their, their, their own establishment of the traditional Democrats. I'm talking about these lefties are, Isn't that what happened in the 60s though.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Really a lot of people don't remember that. The late 60s, early 70s were very violent and there was a lot of this same kind of very hostile, political, division.

The Democratic Party became known in the 70s for being pro criminal

I've told people, I've said on the air before, I was doing research for ah, an article that I was writing when Trump, when the assassination attempts was made on Trump during the campaign, that in an 18 month period between 1971 and 1972, there were 2500 bombs that went off in the United States in 18 months. And this was from.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is that the Weather Underground?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Weather Underground, SDS Students for Democratic Society, Black, Panthers, they were using that kind of violence. So a lot of people forget that and some people weren't born that this country has gone through these kinds of periods of great division. I will say this too in warning to the Democratic Party, as if they're listening. the Democratic Party became known in the 70s for being, pro criminal and not caring about victims. And they became the weak on crime party helped that helped lead to the victory of Ronald Reagan in 1980. And the Democratic Party's making the same mistake, siding with criminals and not caring about victims.

>> Tim Wildmon: They're going to frame this by they, I mean the lefties. They're going to frame this as your ISIS breaking up families.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: that's how they try to portray it. ICE is breaking up families. Yeah. Families of criminals and gang members. Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: If you were to ask the Democrats who would argue like you just said, and I have no doubt, I mean that is what they've been saying. AOC and the others, if you were to ask them, okay, fine, how about we just get rid of, that means you're in favor of these young single men being deported if they're gang members and are here illegally. Right. You're in favor of that?

>> Tim Wildmon: I think they'd be opposed to that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I think they would be. Which means.

>> Tim Wildmon: Or incarcerating them. Yes, they'd be opposed to that too.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So their argument that it's all about breaking up families is a lie.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. I see what you're saying. Yeah. All right. You're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network.

There's a real race on for the governor in Virginia next month

All right, Fred, next story.

>> Fred Jackson: Well, we've got some, pretty key elections coming up, next month in New Jersey, Governor's race there, but also in Virginia. The current governor of that state, Glenn, Youngkin is term limited. And so there's a real race on for the governor there, but also for a new attorney general in Virginia. And the candidate, for that spot for the Democrats is a gentleman by the name of J. Jones. He would like to be the Democrat Attorney general of that state. Well, someone has done some research on some things he has said in the past. And in particular, there is a text now that has been made public on a, verbal attack that he has made against a former speaker of the House there in Virginia. His name is Todd Gilbert. So the text Jones wrote goes something like this. Quote, three people, two bullets. Gilbert, Hitler and Pol Pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head. All right, this is the Democrat who wants to be the next Attorney General of Virginia. Well, the. The current governor, Glenn Youngkin was on Fox and Friends this morning. And, although Jay Jones has issued an apology for what he had to say, Glenn Youngkin is not accepting that at all. Cut number 11.

>> Tim Wildmon: I thought this was a joke, because no one could write this. I mean, this is demented. And here we have the Democrat candidate running for Attorney general, the top cop in Virginia wishing not only that he had two bullets to put in a guy's head, but then he wishes death on his children. And Todd Gilbert has small kids. And for. And for Jay Jones to wish death on his small children is beyond belief. And. But that is where the violent left of the Democrat Party is. This is where these folks are. You know, we had Charlie Kirk assassinated and so many folks celebrated in the far left. We've had two Democrats. We've had two Democrats threaten to murder two of our delegates running for office in Virginia. And now Jay Jones comes out and says that he has two bullets for Todd Gilbert's head and wants to see his children die. I mean, this is unbelievable.

>> Tim Wildmon: Again, we're talking about politics in the state of Virginia, but this is a. A statewide race for who will be the next Attorney general. I can't. I can't help but think that this, will end this guy's, This guy's chances. I don't know what the. I don't know what the polling shows there. Who's the fellow. Who's the person running against him?

>> Fred Jackson: The Republican is the current Attorney general.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: May Harris.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, sorry. I didn't know that. But anyway, the. Why did you. So. So Governor, is the only one that's two term. That can't. Okay. In the state of. In the state of Virginia, you can only be governor for one term. One consecutive term. Right?

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Where most states allow for two consecutive terms anyway. But you're staying the AG Office. You can. Okay. So the current ag, which is a Republican, is, whose name escapes me.

>> Fred Jackson: Jason Myers.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: Really good guy.

>> Tim Wildmon: Absolutely. Absolutely. but, okay, so, this Democrat running against him, the. The. Was, Governor Youngkin was talking about. They're a text of him saying that the ought to be murdered. Saying that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. He. He says this Jay Jones question whether Gilbert and his wife were, quote, breeding little fascists, end quote. And then reportedly wished for the deaths of Gilbert's children and said this. Only when people feel pain personally, do they move on policy, which is just a ridiculously abhorrent thing to say.

>> Tim Wildmon: And, And Gilbert is referring to the Republican House Speaker.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so how do you now the current fellow running for, governor? The Democrats.

>> Fred Jackson: It's a lady, actually.

>> Tim Wildmon: Excuse me. Spanberger.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: I know people in Virginia are going. Get your facts right. Okay? I'm trying to, but I can't keep up with 50 states, all their names and everything. I try. I can. 43. 44 states, I can keep up with. You get beyond that.

Jay Jones wrote text saying Republican House speaker should be murdered

You know, I'm saying I started while you're.

>> Ed Vitagliano: While you're climbing 22,000ft.

>> Tim Wildmon: It gets taxing on a person mentally and physically. But, So Spamberger, the lady running for governor, the Democrat who's ahead in the polls, against, winsome Sears.

>> Fred Jackson: Correct.

>> Tim Wildmon: She said this. I spoke frankly with Jay talking about the guy who issued these tech, who an issue that he wrote text, saying that the, Republican House speaker ought to be murdered and his kids. I spoke with, frankly about. With Jay about my disgust and what he said and texted. I made clear to Jay that he must take full responsibility for his words. I will always condemn violent language in our politics. Well, that's all good and fine, but that's. That's the, unacceptable. You got to call for him to resign and, let somebody else run as the Democrat in that position. You. What does it mean to take full responsibility for your words when your words are, my, political opponent should be assassinated.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Especially in the climate that we live in today and any time. But, this is just, again, violence on the. Violence threatened. From who? The political left?

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Country.

>> Fred Jackson: And you can imagine if this was all reversed.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, my word. Oh, my word.

>> Ed Vitagliano: well, and this is the way Jay Jones defended himself. He. And he did say he regretted what he sent. And this is quote, what he. This is what he said.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're gonna quote him?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm gonna quote him.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Quote. Like all people, I've sent text messages that I regret and I believe that violent rhetoric has no place in our politics, end quote. To which I say, first of all, baloney. I think you said what you believe. That. And this. Listen, this is exactly what the radical left has said, starting with Antifa back in 2020. Punch a, fascist in the face, right? It's justified to use violence against fascists. And that is clearly what Jay Jones said. Now, when he says, I regret it, it's because he's running for office and wants to try to skate. But listen, I've sent text messages that I regret. I've sent them to my wife and regretted it immediately. I shouldn't have hit sand. I'm just kidding about that part. But that's not what this is. This isn't saying, hey, the, the. The. The. The pot roast last night was terrible. Get your act together.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. This is.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I want children to be murdered.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. I don't see how this guy survives this, because I think that kind of thing could drag the whole Democrat ticket down in Virginia, potentially. Just like the. What happened four years ago when the, governor of the. Then governor. When I. He wasn't then governor, but what was his name? The.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Terry McAuliffe.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, McAuliffe. Remember the Loudoun county school situation? He said parents should have no right to be involved in decisions in schools. Remember that?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. This could be that kind of moment. We'll be back momentarily. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.

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