Tim Wildman: A lot of people use aliases for radio purposes
>> Ed Vitagliano: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to afr, Tim, Ed and Wesley. And, we're like, share. We have no last names. People just, See what I did there?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Was it a bad one? Bad joke.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I didn't see what you did. Go again.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh. So I was thinking, paying attention to me, I said, tim. I'm Tim with West. We're like, share. We don't have last names.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, like share.
>> Tim Wildmon: C H E r. I thought you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Said we don't like, share our last names.
>> Tim Wildmon: Gypsies, tramps and thieves.
>> Steve Jordahl: Okay. Huh?
>> Tim Wildmon: you remember that song?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, I don't.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Just don't call me a half breed.
>> Tim Wildmon: Just don't call you a half breed. Okay.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I did. I did think that you were saying we don't share our last like on radio, like, as if there's some secret. And we're celebrities, so we don't want to have our name out there.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We're celebrities.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. We're like Sting. Does that help you?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Actually, celebrities would be the opposite. Your name would be out there. So.
>> Tim Wildmon: Steve Paisley Jordo is in here. Good morning. Morning, Brother Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: I have three names.
>> Tim Wildmon: You do? Paisley Jordan.
>> Steve Jordahl: So I, I've been a radio a while, and I've worked with several people who decided that they want aliases. They don't use their real name on the radio.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Steve Jordahl: when. So I guess because they don't want to.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Years, years ago, we had. We had people here on the air who did not use their real names. One of them was a young lady I remember.
>> Tim Wildmon: Bonies.
>> Tim Wildmon: so they were phonies.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, no. They just, especially. This is a lady, and I think just for.
>> Tim Wildmon: What was her name?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Safety. Well, I'm not going to say it.
>> Tim Wildmon: I was just trying to bait you into that one. No, some people. Well, a lot of people use aliases or change their name for radio purposes. Are for. Especially in the entertainment industry because their name is too awkward or it's long and they want a more, easily spoken name.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's right. I don't know how I got away with Jordal for 30 years.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's why I just say Ed's here.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know.
People need to listen up if they want to increase their church budgets
All right. what do you. What now? I think people need to listen up if they want to increase their church budgets. Yep. Right. You want to increase the giving at your church. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a Real life example on how you can try to do this. Steve, you want to set this up for us?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. So we have a pastor, and I wasn't going to name him, but you know him, so I am going to name it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, we do.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes. This is Pastor Marvin Winans of the Winan Brothers.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Really?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. From Perfecting Church in Detroit.
>> Tim Wildmon: Like BB And CC Winans?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: The brother of.
>> Tim Wildmon: The brother of. Okay, so he pastors a church in Detroit.
>> Steve Jordahl: He does. And he thinks he's the Apostle Peter. if you remember the story of Ananias and Sapphira.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: When they came down and they said. They said they gave everything and they didn't.
>> Tim Wildmon: he doesn't literally believe he's the incarnated Peter.
>> Steve Jordahl: No, but he's acting like it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so we have a video that's only. That was released, I guess, by the church.
>> Steve Jordahl: I doubt it. Someone took it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or somebody. Anyway, so what happens? So we're going to listen to what.
>> Steve Jordahl: So they're having a fundraising. And this is the kind of fundraising where people walk up to the pulpit with their donation and say what they're giving. it's not. Not the Baptist way. At least my Baptist way of doing things. But let's listen to what happened. Cut 11, gave me breast tree for my COPD. Oh, sorry.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You didn't cut the commercial out.
>> Steve Jordahl: I thought I did.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Hi.
>> Steve Jordahl: Roberta McCoy.
>> Tim Wildmon: Giving faith and stand in unity with.
>> Speaker E: The vision of Perfecting Church, of sewing this seed of $1,000 plus $235 and receiving the blessings to come to all that participated.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Now that. That's only $1,200.
>> Speaker E: Yes.
>> Steve Jordahl: Y' all not listening to what I'm saying?
>> Ed Vitagliano: If you have a thousand plus a thousand.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, I'll work on the other 800. Well, that ain't what I asked you to do. What happened after that?
>> Ed Vitagliano: She walked off.
>> Steve Jordahl: She didn't.
>> Ed Vitagliano: She wasn't a child with her. I saw the video, and so I. I, you know, Mike. Well. Well, she. They. You walk up with your family and it was just her. And I don't know whether there's a child or a grandchild.
>> Tim Wildmon: She's telling how much money she's donating to the church.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And the pastor doesn't agree with that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I was going to say, if you have complaints about your church, it could always be worse. Could be humiliated in front of the entire congregation for not giving.
>> Wesley Wildmon: You were supposed to say the moral principle to the end. We were supposed to have a little more fun with that.
>> Tim Wildmon: So what? So so do you agree with what he did there?
>> Wesley Wildmon: No, absolutely not.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No. First of all. And listen, now this. This. I don't know what kind of church this is. I'm guessing it's charismatic slash Pentecostal.
>> Tim Wildmon: Why do they do that?
>> Ed Vitagliano: They, Listen, I remember being at Bible college, which is a charismatic Bible college in Dallas, Texas, and the president, who was the wife. She and the founder, he had died. But, she was running the school. Okay. She was the president. And. And on Tuesday nights, all the students had to be there for kind of like a chapel, kind of a church service. And once a year, they would do fundraiser because it was open to the public.
A woman says she took up four offerings in one service
And she. They took up the offering, and it. The preacher was preaching and it wasn't enough.
>> Tim Wildmon: They counted it right there on the spot.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, no. In the back. And she came back and she said, no, we need more money. She took up four offerings.
>> Steve Jordahl: Wow.
>> Tim Wildmon: No.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, she did.
>> Tim Wildmon: In one service.
>> Ed Vitagliano: In one service, four offerings. She said, y'. All. So what I'm saying. And I'm not. I want to be careful here.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're getting away from you. Hold on. Let us down.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Don't be careful.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Do what you think is right.
>> Steve Jordahl: But.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay, that.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's true.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This. I'm guessing this is probably a charismatic or Pentecostal church, because I don't like you telling everybody, you telling everybody what you're giving. It seems to contradict what Jesus says in Matthew 6, that don't let your.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Left hand know what you're.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. If you give, don't let everyone know what you're giving. Let your heavenly father know who sees what you do in secret. So I would disagree, but they. It's a free country, and they have not that church.
>> Steve Jordahl: You got to pay well place.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And. Ah, you know, listen, that's another thing. I don't. I don't like the fact that you're embarrassing people who don't have the full 2,000 bucks.
>> Steve Jordahl: You know, I worked on the fourth offering with the.
>> Ed Vitagliano: In your.
>> Steve Jordahl: Because people didn't want to hear that same offertory for a fifth time.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Man.
>> Steve Jordahl: They got tired of it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, they wanted to go home.
>> Tim Wildmon: Did they lock the doors?
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, no, they didn't do that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I want to see the video to this. All right. How would I look this up?
>> Steve Jordahl: look up. Look up, Pastor Shame's, present. His name. His name is Shane. Marvin Shane.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, Pastor Shane.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, he's Shane.
>> Steve Jordahl: What keywords to look it up. Pastor Shames.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, you said. You said past.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, it does Sound like Pastor Shames.
>> Tim Wildmon: Separate word. Shames.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. Marvin Winans. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And listen, we don't. We don't. We don't know any of the other context here. If there is.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I don't think you know.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, I know. I'm just saying you're being. I'm just saying this is in the news and that. That their church business is their church business. It is, but it's just.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's not something you see every day.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No.
>> Tim Wildmon: Where a pastor says, you ain't giving enough now. Right. Right there in front of God and everybody.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now, it could be. It could be.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That the pastor said is, here's the challenge. Thousand dollars. And you match that with a thousand dollars, and if you want to do that, come on down.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. And she's. Right.
You're trying to get credit for a thousand plus a thousand by only giving
>> Ed Vitagliano: And then she came on down and gave 1200.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So it could be that she was the one who was not following direct.
>> Tim Wildmon: he was just saying. This isn't what I'm talking about.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This is not what I'm talking about. I said thousand plus thousand. You're trying to get credit for a thousand plus a thousand by only giving a thousand plus two hundred.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. So go sit down.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So who knows how algorithms work all the time, but it just so happens the first link that pulls up is from international business times. But yet it's just happening in a church.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Anyways.
All right, so now I have seen a, uh, way that. Well, I just want to close. Let me close with it.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so now I have seen a, way that. That. Why are you laughing?
>> Wesley Wildmon: I don't know where else you could possibly go.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I just want to close. I'll just close with this. How many times you heard your pastor say that? And you go, that's not true. You're not closing with that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You're going to close.
>> Tim Wildmon: Let me close with it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You preach the sermon over again.
Every church has screens up front now. At your church, for offerings
>> Tim Wildmon: Let me close with this, and then we'll move on to the next topic. I have seen a way which is, a little less confrontational than that, but not much, which will increase giving.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: At your church, for offerings. That is you. You have every. Every church has screens up front now. Almost Right. Where they show the songs. Lyrics.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Are they whatever, evangelical churches, Announcements. Yeah. Maybe not Catholic churches or Catholics. Presbyterians do that. Are they?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Probably most of them don't.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, well, anyway, for those who do. Well, Presbyterians and Catholics might want to pay attention to what I'm saying then, if they want to.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Eastern Orthodox.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, they got the incense, though. they do.
>> Steve Jordahl: Churches probably don't either.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're not short of incense. All right. Well, I shouldn't have started down that road. I was trying to make a point.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Go ahead, make.
>> Tim Wildmon: Make your point being put you some big screens up there up front if you don't have them, and then get you a camera, cell phone or whatever and pass the offering plate and you follow along down the aisle. You see what I'm saying in real time while the offering plates being passed and you're showing the faces of the people in the audience and it's appearing on the big screen.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. So everyone can tell who's given.
>> Tim Wildmon: That way the people aren't saying how much they're giving. So they're not violating the scripture, talking about our bragging, but everybody in the church sees how much they're given.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, you know what I would do in that situation? I would keep a sign. I'd come to church with a sign.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And when the, the, the, cell phone, the cell. When the plate camera down and the camera got on me, I would hold up the sign. It says I gave online. I would put it down. You're, not, you're not embarrassing me.
>> Steve Jordahl: I got.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was a good one. They had.
>> Steve Jordahl: I got a better idea. All right, so, I think what you do. The pastor says, we're going to take an offering. Everybody stand up. Now reach into the pocket or the purse. The person in front of you, grab their wallet and give like you've always wanted to.
>> Tim Wildmon: So you need to violate one of the big ten in order. That's right, in order to give.
Jen Psaki says J.D. vance wants to be president
All right, what's your next story?
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, well, the Trump, derangement syndrome is.
>> Tim Wildmon: I've got it still right now. Go ahead.
>> Steve Jordahl: Ah, I think we're going to have to, maybe, if we're fortunate, maybe, they're going to have to figure out how they can talk about Vance derangement Syndrome because he's next in line if the Republicans win. He's a likely candidate for the White House.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Front runner.
>> Steve Jordahl: Front runner. And, they're already lining up against him. I, want to play you something from Jen Psaki. She was the former white, House spokesperson for Joe Biden for a while. And, she was on a podcast called I've Had It.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Is she going to circle back?
>> Steve Jordahl: She might circle back.
>> Tim Wildmon: She, she definitely hit. This hit from yesteryear is.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, she's talking about J.D. vance and his wife, Usher 10, I.
>> Speaker E: Think the, the little Manchurian candidate. J.D. vance, wants to be president.
>> Speaker E: More than anything else.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Speaker E: I always wonder what's going on in the mind of his wife. Like, are you okay? Please bring. Blink four times. We'll come over here.
>> Steve Jordahl: We'll.
>> Speaker E: We'll save you. and that he's willing to do anything to get there. And that your whole iteration you just outlined. I mean, he's scarier in certain ways. He's smarter in some ways. And he's young.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, man.
>> Wesley Wildmon: He's smarter.
>> Ed Vitagliano: She's smarter. We were having a little bit of fun with the church thing, and then. Steve, you ought to bring us down with that. That kind of thing just infuriates me because. Okay, first of all, smarmy and snarky. I don't like that they get in there. It's like, I'm sorry, but a couple ladies having coffee down at Starbucks and talking about their neighbors. It's gossipy.
>> Ed Vitagliano: because they are making all kinds of implications that they can't back up with facts. I mean, J.D. v. His wife is what, She's a prisoner there. That J.D. vance is a Manchurian Candidate. In other words, somebody's gotten in his head and controlling him like a puppet.
>> Tim Wildmon: What vice president doesn't want to be president? Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You telling me Hillary Clinton didn't want to be president?
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't think she did.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean, it's the hypocrisy of these people. And then they accuse President Trump of, lowering the, the, the niceness level of politics, and they pull this kind of stuff. You know, Jen, Jen Psaki, she wouldn't. She's not dumb. She's. She's pretty. She's a pretty smart lady. But that kind of comment, I used to think, well, she was doing her job. But that's, that's just gossipy, smarmy, and snarky. And no, that isn't a law firm in Memphis.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, next story. Steve.
Spain is pushing back against European crackdown on free speech, Tim says
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, we've been talking for a bit about the way that Europe is cracking down on free speech, specifically on the Internet posts. they are throwing, people, in prison in England for posting things that they say are hate speech and are inciting hate. Well, we finally have a country that kind of is pushing back, and this is Spain, because Spain arrested a priest. His name is Father Custodio Ballister, and he was arrested after writing an article called the Impossible Dialogue with Islam, in which he wrote, I feel a moral obligation to speak the truth. One cannot speak of dialogue when in Islamic countries, Christians are persecuted, murdered, or forced to pay the Jesus jizya to survive. you can't have a conversation with Muslims. They don't want to talk, is what he's saying. And so, he went to court and the court dismissed. Acquitted him. So at least there's a court in Spain. That's kind of pushing back.
>> Tim Wildmon: Does it mainly.
>> Steve Jordahl: It does. Mainly.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Mainly on the plane.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The court in Spain on the plane. See, that helps me get that. Get, gets that gets my mood back. Okay, thank you, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: While riding a train. Yes, but you got to stay in your lane, you guys.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, now you're going from cheering me up.
>> Steve Jordahl: You just being a pain.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was a good way. Steve just closed that segment for us.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: So we can move on.
Too many places in Europe are punishing people who just simply have free speech
All right, Tim, Ed, Wesley, I'll separate this for you and Steve Paisley Doordah. And we got eight and a half more minutes left because we want to.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We want to be sane.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, let's see. Ed had.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I had to, you know, put his last rhyme. Listen, that is a good news story.
>> Tim Wildmon: It is.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because too many places in Europe are punishing people who just simply have free speech if they're not saying the government approved thing.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Which is you can't criticize Muslims, you can't criticize homosexuals. You can't say pro, pro life things.
>> Tim Wildmon: Even though mothers as homosexual.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Steve Jordahl: They might feel bad, throw them off the.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's what I'm saying. all right, go ahead, Steve.
Of young adults identifying as transgender has been cut by half in two years
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, we have a professor, at San Diego State University named Jean Twenge who has been looking at some data and here's what she found. The number of trans. Of young adults identifying as transgender has been cut by half in two years. Cut among 18 to 22 year old trans identification was cut nearly in half from 22 to 24. And non binary identification dropped by more than half in 23 and 24. She doesn't, at least in this article, doesn't give a, specific reason. She might in the study. But I'm saying that I think the time of the trendy. Trendy or, it's trendy to be.
>> Tim Wildmon: bi or trans. Go ahead.
>> Steve Jordahl: What's the word? That. It's contagious.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Social contagion.
>> Steve Jordahl: Social contagion.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Go ahead.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Wesley, can we speculate on this show?
>> Tim Wildmon: Speculate? Well, we got social contagion around here.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's all we do.
>> Tim Wildmon: And I think that spawns some, good words on.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I don't have any. I don't have a study in front of me or. I haven't, I haven't asked anybody that falls in this camp. But I would. I would imagine that there was a good time period there where people were very convinced, I do know this for sure, that LGBT people were being attacked and their rights, and it wasn't fair and the world's against them and we gotta make adjustments and policies and all that. I do think there's a time period where there were. The younger generation did feel guilty or bad for him based on what they were saying, but I think enough times passed that the younger generation sees that that's just simply not true. Nobody's asking for their gender at a barber shop before they cut their hair.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So I think enough times pass where they see that they've exaggerated and. Or just lied about them not having rights or whatever. To the point where I think during that time period, there were some people that just identified as it to say, I'm with them, I support them. And these people obviously didn't have a. I would imagine didn't have a moral conscience to them or Christian or anything like that, to the point where they were willing to take whatever came their way just to say, I associate, I stand with my LGBT friends. So, yeah, I'm bisexual or something like that. But I think your numbers are starting to drop. I think I'm speculating because you're seeing that we've been doing this for 20 years, being, we, the Republicans, conservative Christians, being accused of being a hater, and there's just nothing there. All you get is a Smollett.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, I mean, you want to hear that. You want to see their head spin move. Gay pride month in February, where It only has 28 days and as a.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Cold month in most places.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, the parades would be a lot better because they'd have to dress up, they'd have to wear clothes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Clothes, I think in pop culture, the last five to 10 years, the trans issues been front and center. And it's being, It's. It was about all that was left to be promoted by Hollywood and the entertainment industry. And. And so they began to get a lot of sympathy, the trans people, because, they're being persecuted and.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, like, and bullied.
>> Tim Wildmon: And so, so there was. And it was promoted. And I think. I don't. Like I said, yeah, it was promoted. And I'm saying where it came from, pop culture. And so when it's promoted then. Then these 14, 15, 13, 15, whatever year olds said, hey, yeah, I'm trans. I'm Raised my hand. I'm trans too, when they really weren't.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And so, part of the Number. Now things are maybe coming back to what they really are going.
Steve: To Wesley's point, no, the whole bullying is untrue
Steve.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, can I. Can I just say one. One thing on this?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, you can. Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: let me just shake to Wesley's point. my wife and I were at a restaurant, I don't know, over the weekend. And I won't name it, but it's pretty well known.
>> Steve Jordahl: Is it the Winans restaurant?
>> Ed Vitagliano: No. And we're. We sat down and another couple of, folks came in, and one of them was clearly a dude with a wig and a dress.
>> Tim Wildmon: Dude. Like a lady.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's. And. And so my wife, I always sit with so I can face the door. So he's coming in. So when they walked by, I told my wife, I said, that was not a girl, that was a guy. Okay. My point is, it's Mississippi. Nobody said a word. I didn't say anything. Nobody dragged the dude outside and beat him up. Nobody refused him service.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And I think, to Wesley's point, a lot of young people are seeing that's not really happening anywhere. I mean, if it doesn't happen in Mississippi. Yeah, it might happen.
>> Steve Jordahl: It might happen if he steps into the ladies restroom and there's a little girl in there that's a dad. Might decide that's time to.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But anyway, that. To Wesley's point, no, the whole bullying.
>> Tim Wildmon: And beating him up and harassing him, that's just not true, right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: No.
>> Wesley Wildmon: it only happens if you're a Christian.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's just not true. yeah. Anyway, go ahead, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Examples. Go ahead.
Illegal alien charged with assault on federal officer after allegedly ramming him
>> Steve Jordahl: let's end here. There's a. I want to introduce you to Carlitos ricardo Parias. He's 44. Carlitos Ricardo Parias.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: He's a 44 year old illegal alien from Mexico. And he has been charged with criminal. With assault on a federal officer because he rammed him in with a car. And that's making kind, of big news now in, in the city of Los Angeles. But here's the thing. So they've arrested him. It was only a couple years ago that the city of Los Angeles gave him a certificate of recognition in honor of his unswerving commitment to keep South Los Angeles community informed, empowered, and protected. And now he's ramming his car into. He was, by the way, got into a gunfight with the ICE agents.
>> Tim Wildmon: This sounds like a participation award he got here.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, recognition. It was for unswerving. Unswerving, something. Apparently he didn't swerve enough.
>> Steve Jordahl: He ran right into him.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wait a minute. He's a. He's. He's an illegal alien.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: As opposed to, like a legal alien?
>> Steve Jordahl: As opposed to illegal.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's like come from outer space. We all know that. So he got a recognition and now he's arrested. That's unfortunate, huh?
>> Ed Vitagliano: what was his name again?
>> Steve Jordahl: Carlitos. Ricardo Parias.
>> Tim Wildmon: Very disappointed in him, aren't you? It.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I think he should have swerved, you know? You take these.
>> Tim Wildmon: Was anybody hurt?
>> Steve Jordahl: there was an ICE agent that was injured by a ricocheted bullet. And he was hurt? No, not neither one of them seriously.
>> Tim Wildmon: And this guy was the one that did it?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: allegedly. No, I. Yes. I don't know if he had the gun or if he was being. The car is a weapon. I don't think he had a gun. I think, I think the car was the weapon.
>> Tim Wildmon: And they were to be continued.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Have a great day, everybody. See you tomorrow.
