If we lose this cultural war, we're going to have a hedonistic society

>> If we lose this cultural war, we're going to have a hedonistic, humanistic society. Discover the story of the culture warrior Don Wildmon and how he went head to head with Hollywood playboy, the homosexual agenda and the Disney empire. The movement Don started paved the way for Christians to boldly stand for truth and righteousness in a hostile culture. Watch Culture Warrior today for free. Visit culturewarrior movie.

Today's Issues offers a Christian response to the issues of the day

>> Tim Wildmon: Welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association. Hey, good morning everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues. That's the name of this program here on the American Family Radio Network for this Tuesday, October 28, 2025. In studio with me is is, Fred Jackson. Good morning, Fred.

>> Fred Jackson: Good morning, Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: And good morning, Chris Woodward. Good morning. And in Kansas City, KS is our good friend Ray Pritchard. Good morning, Ray.

>> Tim Wildmon: Good morning, Tim. How are you today?

>> Tim Wildmon: Doing? Well, it's kind of a dreary day here in, Tupelo. I don't know.

>> Tim Wildmon: listen, I got a question for you now. I want to know how late did you stay up last night?

>> Tim Wildmon: I know, funny you should ask, because I wanted to put a disclaimer on the show for all our listeners today. Me personally, I'm not responsible for what I say or if I fall asleep during the show because I did stay up till 1:15. I think it was, something like that watching the World Series game three because it was a classic game. I love the World Series. I don't care who's playing. The drama is just almost unmatched in sports because everything hinges on one pitch and this pitch and that. Anyway, so just to set the scene because we have the sound. Right. Thanks for asking. I'll set this up. Did it. Am I the only one who did anybody. What time did you go to? Did you m. Were you watching? so Brent Crayley, our producer. Chris, were you watching?

>> Chris Woodward: No, I stopped watching MLB after it was apparent in May the Braves weren't going.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so you're. You have a little bit of an attitude. A little bit, A little bitter. So you're not going to watch any teams? No, I'm just kidding, Fred. We. I know you're hockey guy. Did you watch any of the World Series last?

>> Fred Jackson: Well, I. Even though the Blue Jays, Canadian team.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Canada's team.

>> Fred Jackson: I, I cannot get beyond 8:30 or 9.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So I mean for. You have to go to bed.

>> Fred Jackson: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: So you didn't watch, you don't watch any of it?

>> Fred Jackson: No, sir.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, Ray, do you watch any of it?

>> Tim Wildmon: I, was watching Patrick Mahomes last night.

>> Tim Wildmon: Football.

>> Chris Woodward: That guy's going places.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, He's. Stick with him. He's got a future.

Los Angeles Dodgers beat Toronto Blue Jays in extra innings in World Series

All right, then I guess I'm the only one here on this panel that watched, the game. Okay, so it's game three of the World Series. It's the Los Angeles Dodgers and the Toronto Blue Jays and they're playing in Los Angeles and the game, is five to five after nine innings. Those who don't know about baseball, you have nine innings. If you don't know what inning is, I'm not going to waste our time here.

>> Tim Wildmon: Too difficult.

>> Tim Wildmon: Not going to waste our time. And you don't want me to. So they go to what's called extra innings in baseball and in the World Series the drama is, I mean everything's just like, okay, this, this pitch, that ball, this hit, well, who's coming to the plate? All this stuff. So they go 5 to 5 to the 10th. Now by this time it's 10 o' clock central time, my time. Okay, they go to the 11th, they go to the 12th, they go to the 13th. Allison, she's a trooper. We're on the patio watching the game on our big screen TV. And go to the 15th. I'm fading. Okay, go to the 16th. 16th inning, 5 to 5, 17th inning. I said I've got to go to bed. I, I, just, I, I hate to, but I gotta leave you, honey. So I left her on the patio. 18th inning. I, I'm, I'm like, I get up for just a minute and she, I say, who are you? Hey, who won? She goes, Freddie Freeman for the Dodgers hit a walk off home run in the bottom of the 18th inning. So you're talking about. They played a double header. Yeah, so. And I guess it got through somewhere around 1:30. Ray Central Time.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

Ray Marshall: Freddie Freeman hit a walk off home run last night

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so we have here Brent Crelee, our producer has the call out of. No, what do you have? It's his interview after the game is over. He's talking. Freddie Freeman. Yes, sir. I thought that was okay, what we needed, Play it later. Okay. I even heard it. I was talking about the call for the home run. If you have that, if you don't. Okay, well that's anti climatic right there. So you just have to take my word for it, people. It was a, it was a, well, you know, you have to take my Word for it. You take Allison's word for it. Yeah, because she's the one that saw it live.

>> Fred Jackson: I watched the highlight.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: Now he's, he's a Christian, right?

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Freddie Freeman is a well known professional baseball player. Played for the Braves for many years.

>> Chris Woodward: Hit many a walk off home runs.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. And then like, like any good American athlete, he took the money and ran to Los Angeles and plays for the Dodgers. And this was. He tied a record or either, maybe set a record for walk off home runs in the World Series. Okay. Because he hit one against the Yankees last year in New York and he hit one last night. He is a devout Christian, Freddie Freeman. And so we have the audio call from the game because Brent, clearly our crack, producer over here, he's not on crack. He just is able to know. So.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, well, this, this is the ultimate setup.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, all right, people, we can't start over on this show, so you just got too late. We're just going to have to go with it. Brent is feverishly working on finding that audio from the home run, last night. I'm going to wait. I don't want to bring Frank on right now. I want to wait one or two minutes to see if we can find that, but this, Tiny, you heard of him, Ray?

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Baseball player.

>> Tim Wildmon: Isn't. Don't some people think he's the greatest, the greatest of all the current hitters?

>> Chris Woodward: Shohei Ohtani.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Oh, hitters. But he's also a major league pitcher.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: He pitches tonight for the Dodgers. This guy's from Japan and he's one of the greatest players of all time.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know how you. Baseball rankings are very subjective, but.

>> Tim Wildmon: There'S no question he's one of the greatest ever.

>> Tim Wildmon: One of the greatest ever. Yeah. He's 31 years old, doesn't speak English very well. He has to have a translator. Okay. Brent says he's got it and so we're going to hear the call at, at 1:30 Central Time, 2:30 Eastern or something like that last night from Los Angeles. Go ahead. Los Angeles.

>> Walker Wildmon: Marshall's going back before the clock strikes me. Freeman has ended it. It's a repeat hero with the last word on a game three.

>> Tim Wildmon: You could hear the crack.

>> Fred Jackson: I, play that.

>> Tim Wildmon: I love that crack of the bat. Listen, the crack of the bat right there. That's, that's beautiful sound, right?

>> Chris Woodward: It is Los Angeles.

>> Tim Wildmon: So, that was Freddie Freeman hitting that home run. And, he, he had Almost hit another one earlier in the game. But that Atani, ah, he hit two, home runs last night. The Japanese fella did, ah, I pronounce his name right. Okay, you did. Atani. And then he also, got, on base. They. After he hit his second home run, The. The, manager for the Toronto Blue Jays said, I'm not doing this again. And he walked him four times in a row. No, he. I'm seriously. He walked him four times in a row instead of letting him hit again.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So he got on in one game. This player, Atani, got on nine consecutive times, which is a World Series record, obviously. Nine consecutive plate appearances. He gets on base nine times. Yeah. It was remarkable. Anyway, if you didn't see it, hope you got a little, A little flavor of that.

American Family Radio Network features Dr. Frank Turek on today's show

But that was a, that was a remarkable game. I hung in there to 1:30.

>> Chris Woodward: I saw the Braves and Cubs in 98. In Turner Field, they went 15 innings. and then a few years ago, Mississippi State and Missouri went 17 innings in the SEC tournament. Those are two of the longest games.

>> Tim Wildmon: I've seen you ever seen. All right, you're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening, Tim, Fred, Chris and Ray. And, we now have our good friend Dr. Frank, Turek on from. I guess Frank's at home in North Carolina. Good morning, Frank.

>> Frank Turek: Good morning. Baseball's too long already. 18 innings.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, 18 innings. One.

>> Frank Turek: Forget about it.

>> Tim Wildmon: One game. And they have to play tonight. game four. And the pitcher will be. The guy just mentioned he's not too tired.

>> Frank Turek: He'd probably rather, like. Don't walk me. I'm going to automatically strike out so I can rest on the bench.

>> Chris Woodward: He's taking, like, cat naps.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, we'll see how he does tonight. I don't know if he'll be too tired, but, everybody. All those guys will be tired. Of course, when you make millions dollars, it helps your feelings.

>> Chris Woodward: And, Happy to test that out.

>> Tim Wildmon: Even if you get tired. Yeah, that's right.

Fred: Frank asks people to pray for Jamaica as Hurricane Melissa approaches

So, by the way, Frank, I wanted to mention one other story here, before we, move on, the situation, with Jamaica. They are undergoing. Do you know. Do you know anybody in Jamaica?

>> Frank Turek: I, do not.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Ray, do you,

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't have been to Jamaica. You have beautiful, beautiful island.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: When you've been wonderful people.

>> Tim Wildmon: Frank, you've been to Jamaica?

>> Frank Turek: Not been. You know, I. The one place I have not been to the Caribbean.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Frank Turek: Just haven't gone.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, it's close as we, as we speak. they are experiencing a category five hurricane. five. And it's, Just recap. I saw some live camera video footage and right now, Fred, it's, it's going to be, it's going to change Jamaica for 10 years.

>> Fred Jackson: You're talking close to 3 million people who live on that island.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: Winds are topping out around 180 miles per hour, rain, 20, 30 inches. the governor of the island, I'm not sure if that's the right title, he says there's not a single structure on this island that can take that kind of, sustain that kind of damage.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's what, when you use the word catastrophic, this is with a capital C. And you already have a country that's poor. M and, and you know, the infrastructure, the buildings are not the best, not up to these U.S. standards. Yeah. And so I just, I just ask people to pray for the poor folks there in, in Jamaica. I don't know what else to do. I know there'll be relief and aid forthcoming in the coming days and weeks, but, an island like that, they'll. To recover from something like that will be, years and years.

>> Frank Turek: I'm sure Samaritan's Purse will be there.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, right away.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, absolutely. Those bad Christians, you know.

>> Frank Turek: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Those mean old Christians who hate everybody. Just go around the world helping everybody they don't even know.

>> Fred Jackson: And their main industry is tourism.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: So, I mean, if the island is wiped out.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: Predicting it's going to be years before that industry comes back. Can even come back.

>> Chris Woodward: I'm looking at, Samaritan's Purse website right now and they already have a post up saying pray for Jamaica as Hurricane Melissa roars across the island. I'll post that on our Facebook.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Frank Turek: You know, that sounds a lot like you remember when Andrew hit Florida 1992. It was 200 mile an hour winds.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah, yeah. that's just. Yeah. You can't imagine, the devastation. I remember seeing the picture and talking to people who lived in Homestead, Florida, which was, took a direct hit from that Hurricane Andrew, as you're talking about there. Well, what do you want to talk about, Brother Frank?

>> Frank Turek: Well, we could talk a little bit about Egypt.

Ancient fortress in North Sinai offers new proof for biblical Exodus story

There's a story in the news about, fortress being discovered in Sinai. We were just in Egypt a little over a week ago. and people always tell you, you know, there's no exodus or there's no evidence the exodus ever occurred. Yeah. Except all the evidence that says it did occur, you know.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, there's.

>> Frank Turek: I don't know enough about this new one. It just came out.

>> Tim Wildmon: But, I just saw it last night. I thought we'd pitch it over to you, see if you'd heard anything about it. The story was. What was the story, Chris?

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, it's from, the Daily Mail and I just posted it on our Facebook. mysterious ruins found in Egypt offer new proof for the Bible story of Moses. archaeologists in Egypt have uncovered the remains of a massive 3,000 year old fortress along an ancient route many believe was traveled during the biblical Exodus.

>> Tim Wildmon: I like the way you're doing your voice.

>> Chris Woodward: Thank you very much, sir. I practiced on this in the car. The stronghold recently unearthed in North Sinai lies directly on the fabled Horus military road. The same route the book of Exodus describes as the shorter path the Israelites avoided when Moses led them out of egyp.

The oldest inscription ever discovered of Yahweh has been found in Egypt

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, I didn't want you to talk necessarily about this specific thing because it's brand new discovery, but I wanted you to talk Frank, about your travels to Egypt. I know you've been to Israel and some other places in the Middle east and you know, having to do with evidence that supports historical, and archaeological evidence that supports the scriptures.

>> Frank Turek: Sure. Let's point out that the oldest inscription ever discovered of Yahweh has been found in Egypt. It's actually now modern Sudan, but at the time it was Egypt. The grandson of the Exodus pharaoh, his name was Amenhotep III, put up a monument among other monuments that talked about the nomads of Yahweh. This is from 1400 BC. There are two of these inscriptions. Why is an Egyptian pharaoh talking about the nomads of Yahweh in 1400 BC? I remind you the biblical date of The Exodus is 1446 BC. Why is he talking about a group of nomads worshiping Yahweh in Egypt? Because there must have been nomads worshiping Yahweh in Egypt. Yeah, that's why. also a lot of people don't know about this, but there's been a papyrus discovered called the Epure Papyrus. I P U W E R. There's only one copy of this. It comes from Egypt. It comes from about the time of the Exodus. I'm just going to read a few ex. A few excerpts from the Epure Papyrus and see if this rings any bells. The river is blood, yet men drink of it. One thirst for water. Pestilence is throughout the land. Blood is everywhere. Death is not lacking. Indeed all animals their hearts weep. Cattle moan because of the state of the land. Lo, trees are felled, branches strip. Birds find neither fruits nor herbs. It also says that certain gold and other stones are fastened on the neck of, female slaves who, poor men, have become owners of wealth. And he who could not make sandals for himself is now a possessor of riches. The land is without light. All is ruin. Indeed, all or indeed that has perished which yesterday was seen growing is throughout the land mingled with laments. Lo, many dead are buried in the river. The stream is the grave, the tomb has become a stream. And he who puts his brother in the ground is everywhere. Indeed, every dead person is a well born man. Those who were Egyptians have become foreigners and are thrust aside. The children of princes are dashed against walls. What does all this sound like?

>> Fred Jackson: Exodus?

>> Frank Turek: Sounds like the plagues. Yeah, yeah, these are the plagues written about from Egypt. And yet there are some scholars who are trying to say this has nothing to do with the plagues. One, archaeologist from the Armstrong Institute, his name is Christopher Imes, wrote this about this. He said researchers simply don't know the original dating for this document. The pure papyrus, it varies across a span of six centuries, and the latter end of the date spectrum may indeed align with the events of the Exodus. And as shown above, this is from an article where he goes through some of this stuff. Both documents, meaning the Exodus and the impure papyrus, complement each other so well. A river that became blood, pestilence, crops, livestock, buildings devastated, fire and darkness, well born, offspring dying, lame duck magicians, slaves pillaging the riches of masters, and a shepherding people whose initial presence in the land culminated in cataclysm. How could this not refer to the same event?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: That'S amazing.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right, go ahead.

>> Frank Turek: There's no evidence for the Exodus. This is from Egypt, ladies and gentlemen. Egypt. This is not, this is not from the Bible. This is from Egypt. And so.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, hey, Frank, let me ask you a follow up question. Right at this point there are some on the, quote, left side of the evangelical spectrum moving into liberalism, I suppose you'd say, who listen to what you're talking about and go. And they say it doesn't really matter whether there was a literal Moses, it doesn't matter whether there were literal plagues. And it doesn't really matter if there was a literal miracle in the crossing of the Red Sea. What matters is that we know God delivered his people. And sometimes this is put in rather seductive language. What's at stake in Whether or not we accept what the Bible says, in the book of Exodus, I would.

>> Frank Turek: Ask them, are you calling Jesus a liar? Because Jesus talked about Moses. He said, Moses wrote of me. What do you mean Jesus is a liar now? Now, does every event of the Exodus have to be true in order for Christianity to be true? No, but it is. I mean, why would you deny it? Look, the reason I believe that the Old Testament is the Word of God is not just because we can find corroboration in archeology and other papyri and all that. It's because Jesus predicted and accomplished his own resurrection from the dead. And there's very good historical evidence for that. And if Jesus predicted and accomplished his own resurrection from the dead, then he's God and whatever God teaches is true. Jesus taught the entire Old Testament as the Word of God and he promised the New Testament. So who am I going to believe? Some liberal today who says, well, you know, the Exodus may not have occurred? Or am I going to believe the God of the universe who referred to Moses and said, Moses wrote of me.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amen.

>> Frank Turek: I'm going to go with the God of the universe.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. Amen.

>> Frank Turek: Well, and it's corroborated. I mean, I could go through many more lines of evidence from Egypt that the Exodus really took place, but this is a,

>> Tim Wildmon: And you've been over there what, two, three times or more?

>> Frank Turek: Yeah, we've been to Egypt a couple times in the past ten months actually.

People complain about America when they have no idea how most of the world lives

and by the way, if you want to a cure for any leftist in America, I submit to you, you go to Egypt for a week or why don't you just go there for a year and see how well you live? You know what the average salary for an Egyptian worker is what, $303 per month? Per month. People are complaining about America when they have no idea how most of the rest of the world lives.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's true. And Egypt would be considered probably, you know, middle of the road as far as a country, in the world in terms of their economic situation.

>> Frank Turek: It might be, yeah. Certainly in the Middle East.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.

>> Frank Turek: You know, I mean, Israel has the top standard of living. Jordan's probably after that. And then those are three countries went to Israel, Jordan and Egypt.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, There's a reason why the world wants to come to, you know, to the US and to the West.

>> Frank Turek: Yeah, yeah. There are no caravans going to Venezuela. Have you noticed that? Why does everybody want to get in here?

>> Tim Wildmon: That would be a great country song right there.

>> Tim Wildmon: Eryn O Caravans going to Venezuela. All right.

>> Frank Turek: Also some of the great country songs of all time.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Frank Turek: How can I miss you if you won't go away? I keep missing you, baby but my aim's getting better.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, that's even worse. Probably need to let Frank go.

>> Frank Turek: These are, these are, these are country songs. Classical country song.

>> Tim Wildmon: Classical country song. All right, Frank, how can people keep up with your, ministry? I know you let me tell folks. Frank, show airs Saturdays at 9 o' clock Central time right here on American Family Radio. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. So Frank will be talking about this and other topics probably on, Saturday.

>> Frank Turek: Yeah, Saturday we're going to be talking about, we're going to be talking about both Moses and Joshua and also Joseph. Evidence about how they all prefigured Jesus on Saturday.

>> Tim Wildmon: Saturday, Saturday, nine o' clock right here on this station.

>> Frank Turek: Well, actually, let me say, let me back that up. Tomorrow we're going to be talking about that. Not on this station. On Saturday we're going to be talking with the great Lucas Miles. He's got a great new book on the pagan influence into Christianity. So.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wow. All right, well we look forward to that. and then Sunday the re will re air.

>> Tim Wildmon: Sunday afternoon. What time's at 4 central.

>> Fred Jackson: 4 o' clock central.

Preborn network clinics help women choose life and share truth

>> Tim Wildmon: all right, so I was going to read you this. Okay, so you got it. we got time for this one joke. So Frank's got a joke and I got a joke. Friend of mine, this, this guy, this, this guy sent me this joke. Friend of mine came to see me, came to me and said his wife is losing it. She left a note on the fridge door that said it's not working anymore. I can't take it anymore. I'm going to my mother's. he said, he opened the door, milk was cold, butter was cold, it was working just fine. Does anybody not get that?

>> Frank Turek: We get it.

>> Tim Wildmon: You got it. Because I have to. If you got to explain the joke.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. It's not really a joke if you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Kind of loses its, power.

>> Frank Turek: Did you hear about the father who was injured in a horrific.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, he didn't.

>> Frank Turek: Peekaboo accident? Yeah, he's been in ICU for a.

>> Tim Wildmon: Week, but up much. But I. Boom. All right, it's probably time to end this in this interview. Thank you, Frank.

>> Frank Turek: Ohio State, Monday night. Ohio State, Monday night.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, tell us tomorrow. We'll mention it again. Ohio State in Columbus. Okay.

>> Frank Turek: In Columbus.

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>> Tim Wildmon: This is today's issues. Email your comments to commentsfr.net Past broadcasts of today's issues are available for listening.

>> Frank Turek: And viewing in the [email protected] now back.

Jerry and Kim Hunter met some fine listeners from Rockwall, Texas

>> Tim Wildmon: To more of today's issues. Hey, we just, met some fine listeners from Rockwall, Texas, who are passing through Jerry and Kim Hunter. They stopped by to see us. They're on their way to Huntsville, Alabama. but they said they made it a point to come by and see us. They support us and pray for us, and we appreciate it. And if you want to visit our offices and studios here in Tupelo, Mississippi, we welcome you. you just gotta let us know you're coming because, we like to know, you know, who's gonna come to the building. Want to get in the doors and look around. So, what do they need to do? they need to go to, Brent, what do they need to do if they want to. If folks want to sign up to visit us sometime, go to afa.net tours, fill out a form, and, that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Goes to our front desk, and they'll.

>> Tim Wildmon: Get back with you. Right? And if you give a $50 tip to Tim, that did right in the door, that gets you first place. No, I'm just kidding. No tip. No tip goes to me. I just enjoy. We just enjoy. All of us do meet folks who listen to our radio network and who pray for us and support what we do. So, that's What Jerry and Kim, did they stop by to say hello from Rockwall?

Cross Examined. org will host Frank Turek on Monday November 3

All right, so before Frank went on his merry way, I thought he's going to let Frank go. But he said Columbus, he said Ohio State. And I wanted him to tell folks where he's going to be because we have a lot of listeners in Ohio and we have Station 2 stations in the Columbus area. So Frank, tell our folks where you're going to be and how they can sign up. What do they need to do?

>> Frank Turek: Yeah, this is going to be this coming Monday night, November 3rd. We're going to be in Columbus at Ohio State. Let me get the exact room number and all that. I think they just need to get there early if they want to make sure they get in seatings limited.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is that what you're saying?

>> Frank Turek: Well there's a thousand seats but we don't know what kind of turnout we're going to get. the title of what we're talking about is if God why Evil? A, Q and A. in honor of my friend Charlie Kirk. So I'm going to be talking about why would God allow such evil to occur. And then we're going to take a lot of questions related to that and other issues as well. People can ask any question they want.

>> Tim Wildmon: So what do people need? Can they go to your website?

>> Frank Turek: They can then go to Cross Examined.org and click on Events. They'll see it there. we are going to, let's see, what was the room number? He said it's going to be on our

>> Tim Wildmon: Well you got to have a building room number. Yeah, it's not, it's in a building.

>> Frank Turek: It's in a building. It's not an outdoor event.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is it on the campus at Ohio, Ohio State?

>> Frank Turek: It is on the campus. It's going to be in the Archie M M Griffith Grand Ballroom. I believe.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know who Archie M. Griffin is, don't you?

>> Frank Turek: Archie Griffin? Yeah, used to be running back.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, he two time Heisman, trophy winner back to back.

>> Frank Turek: It's going to be 7pm I believe we in tomorrow. That's going to be Monday.

>> Tim Wildmon: So Monday Frank will be in. If you live in Columbus or near Ohio State University and you want to drive over and meet Frank, see him and participate in this program that he's going to be hosting then go to his website, cross examined.org And click on Events and he'll tell you. It'll tell you where he's going to be on campus there. All right, Frank, take Care Net, my friend. See you.

>> Frank Turek: Thank you so much. Hope to see you guys. And by the way, it'll also be live stream, so if you can't make it there, it'll be on our YouTube channel at that time.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, great. Thanks guys. Thank you. That's Dr. Frank Turek. Turek. Frank's also going to be at Alabama, Tuscaloosa University of Alabama at Tuscaloosa, sometime soon. So I'll get him to tell us about that next week.

American Family Association reached agreement with Apple to better protect children on Apple devices

All right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Tim, Fred, Chris and Ray. And as Walker to come in the studio, Walker Wildmon, my youngest of three, and he is also vice, president here in American Family Association. Don't know how he got that job.

>> Walker Wildmon: Ask around.

>> Tim Wildmon: He kind of had an inside track on that position. but Walker, we had some great news that we've just, we're just releasing publicly. Tell folks about it.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah, just yesterday morning American, Family News published an op ed that I wrote on developments regarding Apple Corporation and an agreement basically we reached with Apple to better protect miners on the Apple devices. So AFA has been engaging in corporate, shareholder, engagement. And many folks have heard me talk with Jerry Boyer and Rob west on AFR over the last two years regarding this. But we've been showing up at corporate shareholder meetings, presenting proposals pro family, pro child proposals, with these various companies, corporations, many of them tech companies. And so as part of our negotiations with the Apple Corporation, we, noticed, as we began to do our due diligence, we noticed that there were some pretty serious, vulnerabilities, if you will, for children on Apple devices. And one of them being when a teenager turns 14 and they're aged 14 to 17 using an Apple device, 13 and below, you cannot view pornographic images on an Apple device. it has a feature, a safety feature that blocks the image. You can't even override it. With a teenager, age 14 to 17, we noticed there was a different standard on Apple devices. As we began to talk to Apple and look at their policies and what we found is that they were treating 14 to 17 year olds different than they were 13 and below. And so teenagers aged 14 to 17 could view pornographic text messages and videos on Apple devices without parental consent, without parental knowledge, which was a big, big red flag, that we saw. So as part of our shareholder proposal process we were looking at a lot of different issues. And so we basically told Apple, hey, if you guys are serious about protecting children and you want to show a good faith effort to do such, then you need to fix this loophole here and make it to where all children below 18, 17 and under are protected from pornographic and explicit images on their iPhone on their Apple device. And so after about a year of negotiations and meetings with Apple, they actually came through and made the fix. And so they, they, we met with them last week and they announced these changes. And so all children under the age of 18 so all legal minors will now be protected on Apple devices. One other change I'll mention and then y' all can ask some questions or we can talk more about this. One other change is prior to our discussions with Apple, so in previous years children could view adult rated applications, mobile apps in the App Store. They could view them, they couldn't download them because of the child safety features, but they could still view them, which was, didn't make any sense. So we brought up to Apple that loophole, that vulnerability and said hey guys, if a child can't download the adult rated app, they don't even need to be able to see it in the App Store. And so Apple made that change as well to where all children can't even see or have visibility into adult rated mobile apps. And so those two victories are a really big deal and millions of kids are going to be protected now on Apple devices.

>> Fred Jackson: Walker, my question would be, and I wondered in your early discussions with Apple did they try to justify the 14 to 17, we think it's okay for them to view this or was it just, did they say, oh, it was an oversight.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah, they were very tight lipped in our meetings as far as getting into kind of their reasoning behind their policies. But I think what was abundantly clear is that they were trying to create kind of this secondary category of like half adult right between once you get into your teenage years and before you become a legal adult, there's kind of this hybrid approach to teenagers age 14 to 17, most of your high schoolers, and so it was clear that their policies were heavily tailored in that manner, as if there should be multiple standards for underage, children. So we made the case that, hey look, according to state law in all 50 states, you have to be 18 to be a legal adult. And so there's no reason that we should then break up children, whether they're teenagers or younger, we shouldn't break them up as to how we protect them on these devices. We should just treat all minors the same.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, all right. This is big news. This is a big deal. Yeah, absolutely, a big deal. And we congratulate the Apple company for doing the right thing here. Ray, do you have any questions regarding this at all?

Walker: We've had three meetings with Apple executives regarding social conservative issues

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, Walker, let me m, let me just follow up on the other question. We all wonder, I mean, from a distance, I've never sat down with the executives of some big multinational corporation. I mean, Apple's one of the biggest companies in the world. What's it like on a, what's it like on a personal basis when you're talking to these people from Apple? Are they polite, are they distant, are they crude? do they talk down to people like us here at afa? What's the mood like in the room at that moment?

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah, so we've had three meetings with Apple executives and when I say Apple executives, one of the gentlemen on the call was one of their senior lawyers. So he was their corporate lawyer overseeing all of their corporate lawyers. And so, and then their invest investor relations team, was on the call as well. So they handle all the invest investor relations meetings. But Apple was surprisingly one of the more positive calls. Even when we weren't getting concessions, they were still very cordial and very understanding of our positions. And so Apple, surprisingly to be as big as they are to be, you know, mostly on the West Coast, Silicon Valley type company. They, they were very, very understanding of our positions, very respectable and their communication and clearly this. We had indications last year that they were moving, possibly moving this direction because they released a software update in Australia, only in Australia, that addressed some of the issues we brought up with them. And so they said, hey, you know, we're rolling this out in Australia, basically we're going to test this, there's to see how it goes. And then before we know it, 12 months later they're doing it here in the US and across the world, with their updated software. So Apple's moving in the right direction. And when it gets down to it, there's these, these, some of these things are very indefensible. Indefensible. Right. When you point out that a 14 year old can view pornography without their parents knowing on an Apple device, it's like nobody can really make a good argument why that shouldn't be addressed. and so I think it's just a matter of pointing out the vulnerabilities, making the case why we need to protect children. And once you do that, a lot of these companies have a really hard time fighting off against that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Also just On a related issue, I know we worked on this, what I'm about to talk about and many others did too. That is these laws that have been enacted across, many states, many red states, prohibiting the access of pornography on the Internet by, minors.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And that was upheld by the Supreme Court, right?

>> Walker Wildmon: Yes, that's right. Yeah. And to your point, the approach we're taking here is a multifaceted approach. And so we've got our policy team, Dr. Jamison Taylor and those folks over at AFA Action, they're working on legislation like that age verification legislation to prevent minors from accessing pornography online. And there's also some age verification laws on social media use where you have to show that you're an adult or get parental approval to have social media accounts in some states. So, but that's to your point, those, that type legislation is, is adding pressure to companies like Apple. They're looking at this going, guys, we've got to do something.

>> Chris Woodward: I just want to point out that, there have been a handful of organizations, for 10 years or so that have started to do the corporate engagement stuff. you know, the national center for Public Policy Research is one of them. ADF got involved in Alliance Defending Freedom, now has the View Viewpoint Diversity Score Index, which is a counter to the HRC stuff. And now we're involved here. So our, our entry into this is only going to add to the amount of corporate engagement out there from social conservatives. This won't be the last time we talk about something like that.

>> Walker Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And so the important thing is if you can get, if you buy stock in a company, you can have a voice in their policy. It may not be heard very much, but in this case, Apple did listen to us. But if you buy stock in corporations, you can go to shareholders meetings, you can vote by proxy. There's a lot of things you can do to make a difference in terms of their corporate policy and oftentimes they don't hear from conservatives. And in this case, we're making a difference from a conservative perspective and in this case just a common sense protect children perspective. All right, thanks Walker. Appreciate it.

>> Chris Woodward: Absolutely.

Walker Wildman will be on American Family Radio this afternoon

>> Tim Wildmon: That's Walker Wildmon joining us. Walker, will be, on this afternoon. Yes. Okay. From 1 to 2 o' clock central time on American Family Radio. Walker, will be on with his program. Tim, here with Fred. Fred, what's the next? Or Chris, who, who has the next story.

New York Post story about bank scam that drains life savings in seconds

>> Chris Woodward: Well, I'll mention this, because it's probably not the SCAM we need to alert our listeners, and viewers on, there's a New York Post story out where they're claiming this is an exclusive. It's about a, quote, terrifying high tech bank scam that drains your life savings in seconds. And devastated victims are sounding the alarm. In this story, the New York Post interviewed a young man, 33 years old, last name Phillips. And basically he got a phone call and it was from somebody spoofing his actual bank. There's some technology out now that allows you to call somebody under the guise of another organization.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, let me, let me explain real quickly as we go along here what spoofing, is. So spoofing would be, let's say you get a phone call and it appears to be from your bank. So it will say whatever your bank name is. and so what I'm saying is, that may not necessarily be your bank. It may be somebody, what's called spoofing, that is falsely identifying the phone call. What I'm saying. So this gentleman here. Go ahead, continue on.

>> Chris Woodward: So he gets, he gets a call from somebody claiming he's from his bank, in this case Chase bank, and he claims there's been fraudulent activity on this person's account.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ah.

>> Chris Woodward: And through a process of a conversation, he basically ended up giving this person some, information that allowed them to access and just wipe out his bank account.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I just, you, Ray, you just got to be very, very careful and be suspicious of everything. Fred, you said before Ray enters that you said to me before the show you don't trust anything anymore.

>> Fred Jackson: Well, I don't.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: And you know, in this case, if you got a phone call and it was ID as your bank, I would say, okay, I'll come down to the office and talk to you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, you come down to the bank. A branch of the bank branch, or call them back. Not necessarily that number, but call the official number of the bank.

>> Fred Jackson: But first of all, do not give them any information. Do not give your bank account number. Do not give the last four digits of your social. Anything of that nature. You know, the, your mother's maiden name. These are some of the questions they'll ask.

>> Tim Wildmon: They're, they're tricking you by my making you think they're helping to protect you from tricksters.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's kind of very deviant, right?

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: this very thing, the exact thing you're talking about happened to us not this many weeks ago. as it, as it happens, almost, almost word for word, verbatim, what you're saying we got a call like that and somebody saying we are from such and such bank, happened to be our bank, and there has been suspicious fraudulent activity. And with, you know, the whole spiel, we wanted to know, want, to know birth dates, wanted to know, I wanted to know the Social Security number. Just give us that. And we're going to follow up on everything and we're going to make sure this is all right. Well, thank goodness. Yeah, thank goodness we figured it out in time. But we ended up going, going online. And, one of the things you can do is there are these credit reporting agencies like, Experian and TransUnion and so on, where they check your, they check your credit scores.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: We found out that the bad guys. And I'm not even sure how to explain how this following thing actually happened, but they had set up an account in our name, fraudulent account, had put money into it, had taken money out of it, if that makes any sense. And then it closed it down, all without any knowledge of us whatsoever, preparatory, I think, to doing something much bigger. So we got, we got in touch with somebody who does this for a living, who, I don't mean a bad guy, I mean a good guy stopping the bad guys.

>> Tim Wildmon: Protect you against identity theft.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's exactly right. And he said, freeze your accounts, at these different credit unions. And that's what we've done. We've had no problems since then. But Tim, here's the thing. They prey on people. Certainly not like you, Tim, not like you, Fred, not like you, Chris, but guys like me.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, I was going to say, like, sometimes people hear or read these stories and they're like, who falls for this stuff? It's 20, 25, but millions of people.

>> Tim Wildmon: Still do, especially seniors, especially senior adults who. Look, I'm fairly familiar with the Internet because I live on it, right? But there's a lot of guys my age in the early 70s, they just, they're not real comfortable with it. So when you get a call and they know your name and they say they're from your bank and they, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

>> Tim Wildmon: yeah, that wouldn't work. The bank thing wouldn't work with us because we bank local.

>> Walker Wildmon: And

>> Tim Wildmon: So, but, but, but, I could see. But if you don't, you know, if you use a national bank, a Chase bank or somebody like that, and we, and we do.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, because we travel. We travel so much.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: That gives you great flexibility. But, but if you said to me, right, who's the. Who's the head of the.

>> Fred Jackson: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: The local head of the bank where you.

>> Walker Wildmon: I don't know.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right, right, right, right. The other thing is, there's three main ways where the scamming goes on. Text messages, emails and phone calls. And, and the text, the text and the emails. Don't, click on links on there. Yes, yes. if you, and especially if you got somebody who says they're calling from your credit card company, you hang up and you. It might, they may be. They may be. Sometimes they're legit. We've had, you know, we've had people. Credit card company. You can sort of use the. Well say sort of. Usually it doesn't help anybody, unless you're absolutely sure that you're talking to your credit card company. You need to hang up and call the number on the back of the card. Yes.

You need to let your credit card company know you're traveling abroad

That's the only way to know for sure you're talking to your, to the real representatives from your credit card company. But also, just as a note, when you do plan to travel, we always tell people who go with us to the Holy Land in March every year, we tell people, you need to let your credit, card company know you're going to be traveling abroad. Because if you don't, when you get over there, they're going to, they're going to stop you from using it.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Until you let them know.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. And a lot of, most places over there, a majority of places over there do take a credit card.

>> Tim Wildmon: You need to let your credit card company know, hey, I'm, this is me. I'm going to be traveling in Israel or England or Canada or wherever. So that they know that, you know, because it'll flag, activity if you're thousand miles away from your home or whatever.

>> Walker Wildmon: So.

>> Tim Wildmon: And you know, to keep it from being. The credit card companies thinks it's maybe stolen. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Also, I want to cover this at some time too. We don't have time today. And I don't really fully understand it, but I'm hearing more about these people who have their deeds to their home stolen or something like that.

>> Fred Jackson: Their title deeds.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. Basically they have their, the home ownership jerked out from under them, unbeknownst to them.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. How that works and how you can keep that from happening. Because that sounds like. yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: The problem is today that so much of your life is out there digitally, you know.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, everybody's, everybody's information's exposed now. There's data breaches every single day.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, it's scary.

>> Tim Wildmon: and you go like, you know, how does this company get a data breach? And now all your, your Social Security, your address, your email, everything's exposed on the Internet, you know, out there, everywhere.

>> Frank Turek: So.

>> Fred Jackson: Well, there was that scam a few weeks ago and we talked about this. If you travel and all of a sudden you get a notification that, you know, you were caught speeding and you need to click on this.

>> Chris Woodward: Oh yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: And pay your speeding ticket.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.

>> Fred Jackson: And, it's a scam.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's a scam. Yeah. Also that we've talked about this. The fake toll.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: You passed a toll bridge or toll and you didn't pay. You need to pay. And that's, that's evidently working quite well.

>> Walker Wildmon: Across around the world, including in places.

>> Chris Woodward: That don't have toll roads. That's what's amazing to me.

>> Tim Wildmon: I know, but it is work. It must be working because the scammers still be, are still using it.

Amazon cutting 14,000 corporate jobs as spending on artificial intelligence accelerates

All right, you're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Chris, what next story here?

>> Chris Woodward: Well, one other thing. we have this on our website and people can go read [email protected] Amazon is cutting 14,000 corporate jobs. 14,000 corporate jobs. This is about 5% of their corporate workforce, at Amazon. And what's interesting with this situation is, Amazon cuts 14,000 corporate jobs as spending on artificial intelligence accelerates. So nowadays it's not just blue collar jobs being cut or threatened because of AI. You've got white collar jobs at one of the world's biggest companies, being threatened by AI. This will not be the last corporation we talk about.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. Amazon says as part of their press release this morning that they hired a bunch of people during COVID because, you know, millions more people used Amazon during COVID because they didn't want to go out and shop at the brick and mortar stores. But now they're, they're dealing with this. But also they want to get more involved with AI using AI in their business. And, that, that's just coming like a storm. we haven't seen just the tip of the iceberg on how AI is going to be used.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Ray, have you studied this much?

>> Tim Wildmon: You know it's coming, right?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: the AI revolution, people say, well, it's here. Yeah, it's here. But the biggest part, the, the culture changing part, I think is yet to come.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh yeah. When you have people like Bill Gates and you have people like Elon Musk and other people who are intimately involved with computers and technology and Internet. There are others, too, that I just can't think of off the top of my head. And I don't know if Bill Gates has warned against this, but I think he has. But I know Elon Musk has about, AI and the dangers of what may lie ahead in terms of artificial intelligence. Now, there's a lot of good stuff, almost with. As with every technology, there's good and bad. Right? So, But, But we will be back after this, timeout for news. Chris, thank you.

>> Chris Woodward: Thank you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Steve Paisley. Jordal will be making his way over here. We'll talk to Steve and continue with our discussion in a few moments.

>> Frank Turek: The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.

Tim, Fred and Ray talk with Chris on top news headlines of the day. Also, Walker Wildmon joins the program to discuss new changes in Apple's policy regarding children downloading apps and content viewing.