Today's Issues continues on AFR with your. Host, Tim Wildman
Ed Vitagliano Today's Issues continues on AFR with your.
Steve Jordahl Host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
Tim Wildmon Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network, where we solve the world's problems one hour at a time, one story at a time, and one story at a time. We got an hour and a half of this show. We got 25 more minutes left. Tim, Ed and Wesley. And now joining us, Steve Paisley Jordal.
Steve Jordahl Good morning everybody, and afternoon here on the east coast. And good evening. If you're in Moscow, I would think.
Wesley Wildmon Yeah, yeah, we do that with the app. We do have people.
Tim Wildmon We have listeners around the world. Yeah. so, Steve, good morning to you. Good morning, or good, as you say, good afternoon to those listening in the Eastern time zone. Although we're, we're in the central. So to you, it's good morning.
GOP Rep. Eric Burleson claims missile fired at unidentified UFO
All right, so what's your first story.
Steve Jordahl For us Brothers T. Well, I think it's time we had a talk.
Ed Vitagliano That's all we've been doing.
Steve Jordahl I know there's been some stuff going on in, on in the government. And in reality, that is under normal circumstances, I would say like 20 years ago, would have consumed our, media, our attention. We would be talking about nothing else. But. And it is. What are those unidentified objects in the sky? There have been a number of what the government is calling uap, they're calling that Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena. They do that so that because the ufo, is used to associate, a lot of, with extraterrestrial. Extraterrestrial aliens and they want to kind of get away from that kind of thing. So they're calling them UAPs, but they have no idea. There's a, There's a committee is called the Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets that met last, yes, last week, a couple days ago, I should say. And, they were, they had some very credible former members of the military, pilots and, and these congressmen asked them about their encounters. I want to have play you a little bit of one of the, one of the questions you're going to hear. First of all, you're going to hear from former, service member Jeffrey Nicatelli. And then you're going to hear Chad Pergram, the Fox reporter who's bringing this report, talk about, something that Representative Eric Burleson from Missouri is going to say. Cut.
Tim Wildmon 17 AOS ensued over the radio as.
Ed Vitagliano The object approached rapidly. I heard my friends screaming. It's coming right at us. It's Coming right for us. GOP Missouri Congressman Eric Burleson showed an alarming video leaked to him anonymously. Burleson contends it shows a US Drone firing a hellfire missile at a UAP off the coast of Yemen last fall. It pivots in some way, and then there's what appears to be debris from the missile. The missile is deflected, and then some pieces of debris appear to be traveling alongside and with this object, for an extended period of time. I'm just now looking at it. I had seen it, during the last segment, the headline. I wanted to click on it, but we were in the middle of a conversation. This is pretty shocking.
Steve Jordahl I know.
Ed Vitagliano this is a hellfire missile fired at this uap. Again, that's an Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, and the missile bounces off this thing.
Steve Jordahl We, as far as we know, there is no technology that would deflect a hellfire missile like that.
Wesley Wildmon Got two questions. One, is it possible the missile could have been a dud? next question would be, where did the, where did the object end?
Steve Jordahl up? They, I don't know. They didn't track it much further than the video shows. So I don't know where it was going or where it came from.
Ed Vitagliano This, this story which I'm reading on Fox now. This is journalist George Knapp, who, I'm familiar with him. He's all in on extraterrestrial hypothesis is what it's called, that these kinds of objects are off planet. They're alien. Okay, so he, he is going to be biased, but this is what he says. That's a hellfire missile smacking into that ufo, and it just bounced right off, and it kept going. And he says there are servers, meaning where you store videos, where there's a whole bank of these kind of videos that Congress has not been allowed to see. Now, one of the questions would. One of the first questions I would ask, and this is surprising, this is going to surprise people, but Congress is not necessarily allowed to see what we've got in terms of technology, that if this is a test of a U.S. U.S. technology, they may be testing to see how it responds in the event of being struck by a missile. I can't answer your question, Wesley, in terms of it being a dud. It's. I think it's very rare for a hellfire missile to be a dud and not detonate. but I, I don't know. I, I, My, my tendency is to think this is our technology that we are testing, and Congress is probably not Going to be told.
Wesley Wildmon Let me ask you this, too. I'm, I'm. This is a whole new world for me, so I may ask some very basic questions for y', all, but I'm.
Ed Vitagliano Not getting into it in detail because last time I did, Tim made fun of me.
Wesley Wildmon And you remember that.
Tim Wildmon I do.
Wesley Wildmon I, Why, why would we. I guess that was an American missile shooting at the unidentified object.
Steve Jordahl Was.
Wesley Wildmon Okay, then why. If we don't know what it is, why are we just shooting at it?
Ed Vitagliano It was off the coast, so it wasn't dangerous. Probably to. It wasn't. These things have been filmed, flying over cities. So then why Middle East?
Wesley Wildmon I guess I'm saying is what do we do? We consider these things a threat, or did it cross a line?
Steve Jordahl There's just so much that is unknown. There's. First of all, we have no list publicly. There' no knowledge of something that would have that kind of propulsion. These things, are known to have. Be hypersonic. They change directions in, in an instant. They go from water to air without any visible, disruption. Doesn't even splash when it goes into the water. And they've, been tracked. I don't know. This would be like Hal Lindsay would be out there preaching on the street corner and everybody be listening to him. If this was 20 years ago and it just is kind of, it's just ho, hum.
Tim Wildmon Can they, leave buildings with a single.
Steve Jordahl It seems to be able to. Yes.
Ed Vitagliano Single bound. Well, what's puzzling about some of the imagery is that the acceleration you're talking about, Steve Ordinary, according to the laws of physics, should create a sonic boom.
Steve Jordahl Right?
Ed Vitagliano That's how fast these things go.
Some interpret UFOs as demonic entities masquerading as otherworldly beings
But it doesn't. And there is no, there is no physical technology, period, that can. Where a physical object can hit the water without causing a splash. That's why there's some question in my mind whether all these things are physical, and we're talking about physical technology, or whether it's metaphysical. Anyway, that's where I got myself into trouble the last time I talked about metaphysical would mean spiritual. Well, or.
Steve Jordahl There is, there is a line of discussion among people who think that these phenomena are a form of demonic deception designed to lead people away from God and into the occult. they. Some interpret that the UAPs are demonic entities masquerading as otherworldly beings. By the way, I got this all from, AI. Thank you very much.
Ed Vitagliano You could have just come to my office.
Steve Jordahl I could have just come to your office, but I didn't.
Ed Vitagliano But I would have shut the door while we talked.
Steve Jordahl So the, proponents of this view believe that the phenomena of UAPs and the fascination with aliens serve as a deliberate distraction, drawing people away from religious faith and towards occult practices. I don't know about that anyway, but they think that this may be the physical manifestation of the spiritual realm. This does some weird things to.
Ed Vitagliano I know, look at it.
Steve Jordahl This does some weird things to your theology. If you want to start talking about, extraterrestrial beings. M. I don't know. I don't know how to envelop that into my theology.
Tim Wildmon Go for it, Steve.
Steve Jordahl No, I don't know.
Wesley Wildmon Answers in Genesis covers this a good bit.
Steve Jordahl Do they?
Wesley Wildmon Yeah, you could go to their website.
Ed Vitagliano There's some excellent books on, on this subject. And, But I've. I've never seen video like this with a missile bouncing off it. So that's the kind of thing. What makes me think. And to answer your question, Wesley, why would we be opening fire on it? We probably have rules of engagement. And where my opinion is, some of this is our technology, and we want a real world test for its capabilities. So you don't tell the military, the guy flying the drone, that this is our tech. You want to test our military capabilities against this new technology? Because if we use it against the Chinese, we want to know how they would respond. So you have rules of engagement where you say, if this is not overpopulated area, open fire on it. M. Okay. You issue warnings and you say, you know, halt or whatever they say, and then you fire. And we want to test and see how, how good it does against conventional weapons. That's just.
Tim Wildmon Where can people watch that video was?
Ed Vitagliano it's on Fox.
Wesley Wildmon It's fascinating.
Steve Jordahl Yeah. If you, look at. For UFO hearing or UAP hearing, the video is likely to come up.
Tim Wildmon I. I do wonder why we fired at it. Did it fired us?
Steve Jordahl I. No, I just. I. I see a movie set with the generals, like, I don't know, you remember the movie where, it was Matthew Broderick, I think. do you want to play a game? And,
Ed Vitagliano War games.
Steve Jordahl War games. And they're sitting in this thing, they're watching this thing, and one of the generals says, hey, oh, let's. Let's throw a Spitfire at it, see what it does. Yeah, I don't know. I just.
Ed Vitagliano Well, there are concerns that if this is not our technology, and, maybe it's Russian, maybe it's Chinese, or maybe it's. Nobody's here on Earth. We want to be prepared. So the reason we would fire at it is either we're testing our own technology, or we want to know how our technology stacks up against it.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, but if it is extraterrestrial, right? If it is from outer space coming to our a planet, and the first thing we do while it's trying to be friendly, you know what I'm saying, flying around our planet is we start firing, trying to destroy it. I mean, is that a way to. Well, when to win friends and influence, beings. I would just ask the question. I don't have an answer. I'm just. It's an open end.
Ed Vitagliano I just. I'll just tell you what my answer is.
Tim Wildmon What's your answer?
Ed Vitagliano They weren't invited. And if they turn out to be hostile, we need to know what we.
Tim Wildmon Can do to defend ourselves in the Hellcat weapon.
Ed Vitagliano Hellfire missile.
Tim Wildmon Missile. Because it bounces off.
All right. Listen, I'll talk about this all day long. I just thought we needed to have a conversation
Steve Jordahl All right. I just thought we needed to have a conversation. Thank you, gentlemen.
Ed Vitagliano It is for. Listen, I'll talk about this all day long.
Tim Wildmon Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano I appreciate you bringing it up.
Wesley Wildmon Sure you do.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. No, it is. It is unexplained. It is. I mean, this is not a. I mean, what. What we saw there on the video. That's. And they're describing there. Next story, Steve.
Representative Jasmine Crockett says law enforcement isn't to prevent crime
Steve Jordahl All right, I want to take us to some of the brainiacs on the opposite side of the aisle from Republicans in Congress.
Tim Wildmon What I was called in high school.
Steve Jordahl Yeah, I bet. Specifically, I want to play something that Representative, Jasmine Crockett from Texas is saying. And now she has become kind of the new voice of the ultra radical Democrats. The squad is.
Tim Wildmon She's the Texas version of aoc.
Steve Jordahl Right.
Tim Wildmon Okay. She's a. She's the brisket.
Steve Jordahl And she, was talking, she was on a, on a podcast called Grounded. And, she was asked about law enforcement. And I mean, I don't know about this, but this is what she had to say. Cut 16.
Tim Wildmon I want to be clear that, like, law enforcement isn't to prevent crime. Law enforcement solves crime, okay? That is what they are supposed to do. They are supposed to solve crimes, not necessarily, prevent them from happening per se.
Steve Jordahl I hear the Scooby Doo. Go.
Tim Wildmon She is a United States House of Representatives member from Dallas area, right?
Steve Jordahl Yes.
Tim Wildmon All right.
Ed Vitagliano that's. That's a ridiculous thing to say. they can do more than one job at a time. It's been. It's been demonstrated in cities that having a greater police presence in high crime areas, per se. Per se. Tends to dampen the amount of crime.
Steve Jordahl Come on, if you got a cop on the corner, you're gonna break into the jewelry store right there.
Tim Wildmon You're not any idea what she's responding to? Right there, talking about she.
Steve Jordahl She's responding to. I think she's taking the. The narrative that these troops that, Donald Trump wants to send into Chicago, that he sent into, Washington, D.C. aren't preventing crime. They don't prevent crime. They solve crime.
Tim Wildmon That's ridiculous.
Steve Jordahl I know it is.
Wesley Wildmon No, no, that would be called a detective. Detective solves crime, scrambles, and then a police officer prevents crimes.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. And oftentimes, or response to crimes, oftentimes just the presence of police will prevent a crime. That's what's happening in Washington, D.C. you put national Guardsmen on every corner. The. The, criminals see that, and they don't want to get. They don't want to, open themselves up to being caught. So. So that was kind of the purpose of sending him.
Where blue police lights are being used, where there are none
Have you also noticed this, where. Where blue police lights are being used, where there are none?
Wesley Wildmon Yes.
Tim Wildmon Have y' all noticed this?
Steve Jordahl No. What? I see. But.
Wesley Wildmon But they're.
Tim Wildmon You know what I'm talking about.
Wesley Wildmon Yes, but they are. But let's be. Let's be very clear. They're put up by law enforcement, though. These are not blue lights that are put up by civilians to trick you.
Tim Wildmon No. Well, maybe so, but I've seen a couple of them on private property. What I'm talking.
Wesley Wildmon Okay, I'm not talking. I've not seen that.
Tim Wildmon I'm not. I'm talking about blue lights being used.
Wesley Wildmon You have to be careful that you don't want to impersonate a cop or.
Tim Wildmon Well, it's not. There's nothing. It's like a blue light being put On a. On a light pole somewhere or something, in a. You know, you got a business. I've seen them at businesses that are closed, obviously, at night. And they put a little blue light up there. That's right. It's not necessarily flashing, like a police officer's lights on a car, but it's what I'm saying, it's a psychological. When I see it, you think police.
Wesley Wildmon Okay?
Tim Wildmon So that's what I think is a deterrent, psychological deterrent, for people to be in places thinking maybe what you said, that the police themselves have a spy camera on them or something.
Wesley Wildmon The ones I referred to are the ones mostly for, speeding. So throughout the highway or town, the police. And in daylight you can see that it's got the police emblem on there. The local police department. And it flashes blue at night in areas that people usually speed.
Steve Jordahl It might be in higher crime areas, someplace to indicate that if people go to that blue light, there's an. There's a place they can communicate with the police. Like a phone. You can pick up and say, hey, this happened or not.
Ed Vitagliano Well, I was always told, you know, if you're in trouble, do not. Don't move towards the white light. But the blue light.
Tim Wildmon Did you say anything to drop and roll.
Ed Vitagliano Stop, drop, roll, stop, drop and roll.
Tim Wildmon Stop, drop and roll. That's what I was taught.
Stanford researchers found that overactive neurons drive autism in mice
Next story. Steve.
Steve Jordahl All right. They are, doing some really good medical stuff with mice, I would have to say. Stanford researchers found that overactive neurons. In the end. I'm gonna lean on you, Tim, to. To tell me what this is, but the reticular thalamic nucleus drive autism like behaviors in mice. Neurons in the reticular thalam. Thou. Thalomatic nucleus. That's what. That's where they are seeing autism like behaviors in mice. And they found some medicine, way, to control the autism. They took autism away from autistic mice and they started behaving normal.
Ed Vitagliano And what. What. What was it that they gave? What was the medicine?
Tim Wildmon Good question.
Steve Jordahl That's a good question. It was. It wasn't a medicine. It was, calming the neurons with a calcium channel blocker.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, they called the neurons. I did that as my 44. I actually did that as my science project. No, in 11th grade.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano Back in those calcium channel blockers.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, I did that. It was new. Nobody knew what I was doing. So I like, got a C minus science teacher. Didn't even know. Couldn't appreciate what I was doing. This is why I tell them what I was doing. Again, Steve, you were.
Steve Jordahl You were calming the neurons. Explain it again. The neurons in the reticular thalamatic nucleus with Z944 calcium channel blockers is what you short.
Tim Wildmon I was helping these mice.
Steve Jordahl You were.
Tim Wildmon What would you have done?
Ed Vitagliano Calming the. What. What was the.
Tim Wildmon Ah, thalmic.
Steve Jordahl The neurons.
Ed Vitagliano Nothing is worse than neurons that need to be calmed. Well, if they're overly excited, neurons.
Steve Jordahl I.
Ed Vitagliano Will tell you with cause all kinds of problems.
Tim Wildmon How do you stop this right here? Steve, we got family. Tell us what the serious issue is. there is a, I try to hold this thing together.
Steve Jordahl I know.
Tim Wildmon Ed Wesley over here.
Ed Vitagliano Sorry.
Tim Wildmon Taking us in all kind of different directions.
Ed Vitagliano Sorry I interrupted your serious discussion. There is a Science project.
Steve Jordahl There is a huge uptick in autism births, and the researchers are trying to figure out what causes it. And they might have had a breakthrough with mice.
Tim Wildmon Gotcha.
Steve Jordahl It's a long ways from being able to do something with humans with autism, but it's something that's kind of interesting that they've been able to find a way to revert autistic mice to normal behavior with.
Ed Vitagliano Well, and also, seriously, it is a step in the right direction to finding out what triggers these neurons. And then all that other stuff you said. I won't belabor the audience listening audience with, asking Tim to explain it all, but it is a. I could.
Tim Wildmon But, bore people.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, it could. It could be a step in the right direction, not only of, interrupting it and carrying it, but also figuring out what triggers it.
Tim Wildmon That's what they're hoping.
Wesley Wildmon What were you talking about? I'm just kidding.
Ed Vitagliano We can talk.
Tim Wildmon About this at lunch if you like.
Wesley Wildmon I got a book on.
Tim Wildmon You want to talk about this?
Ed Vitagliano You have a book on it?
Wesley Wildmon Audio book.
Steve Jordahl Okay. Go ahead.
Apple's new AirPods will be able to translate conversations in foreign languages
Tim Wildmon Steve.
Steve Jordahl Apple is announcing, it's had one of its launches. You know, every so often Apple rents a huge hall in the Bay Area and they get their CEO, or whoever Tim Cook and. Or was in the day was, the, the guy with the turtleneck sweaters, Steve Jobs, he was going. He would demonstrate the new. The new upcoming products from Apple. Well, they still have these things. They're called launches. And it had its biggest launch of the year on September 19th. And this is what it announced. It announced new iPhones and Apple watches that will go on sale September 19th. Most of it was about pricing and new technology, but they had something that I thought was really kind of cool. The new Apple AirPod Pro 3 that they're going to introduce have improved audio quality and noise canceling. One new feature is that they will be able to translate conversations in foreign languages in real time.
Tim Wildmon All, Right. That could be actually beneficial.
Ed Vitagliano Wow. So you put these AirPods in and you can have a conversation, right? Well, you can understand.
Steve Jordahl You can understand what they're saying. It doesn't translate individual words. The meaning of each phrase is translated to you. So when you talk, you just speak naturally.
Tim Wildmon And the AI. The AI interprets, for you to the other individual who doesn't speak that language.
Steve Jordahl I don't, I don't know.
Ed Vitagliano The AirPods that you hear someone speaking, like in French.
Steve Jordahl Right.
Ed Vitagliano And then the AI translates and so that you're hearing it in your Language.
Steve Jordahl As far as communicating back to them, you give them a pair.
Tim Wildmon It's like a, like an interpreter.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon Except it's a, computer generated.
Ed Vitagliano That's.
Steve Jordahl I thought that was pretty incredible. Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano And it's in real time, so there's not much of a today.
Tim Wildmon Ah, let me ask you this. If you go to Boston.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon Can you, get it? Will they interpret that for you?
Steve Jordahl Southern accent. There's no pocket yard.
Ed Vitagliano I don't think it works because I know my iPhone doesn't translate what I.
Steve Jordahl Say when I speak into it.
Ed Vitagliano I have to go and correct it.
Tim Wildmon There are some Southern accents. That's true within interpreting.
Steve Jordahl Just think about how that would go on a European vacation, though, you know, you est.
Ed Vitagliano Where's the bathroom?
Steve Jordahl Where's the bathroom?
Tim Wildmon There you go, Banyo.
Archaeologists are finding treasures in Turkey and Egypt
All right, so we got 45 seconds or how long we got till music starts?
Steve Jordahl About 20 seconds. There's a 2000-year-old Roman Hall. They found the church of Laodicea. Really? Archaeologists have. They're kind of neutral about. They're kind of hot and cold about whether it's.
Tim Wildmon I knew that was coming.
Steve Jordahl Place to be or not, but even.
Tim Wildmon Wait for me on that one, lady.
Steve Jordahl It's in Turkey. The site holds carvings to early Christian worship. And, the Andelu Agency announced this in August. They have found Laodicea.
Ed Vitagliano They're discovering all kinds of Israel. And in Turkey and Jordan, they're finding all kinds.
Tim Wildmon Egypt, too. They're defining a, They're finding artifacts that confirm what the Bible says.
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Tim Wildmon About history.
Ed Vitagliano Now, I will. I will say I wasn't too thrilled what they found in Egypt a couple of weeks ago. It was a mummy. But there was a warning not to open the sarcophagus or the mummy would come to life and bring doom and destruction.
Steve Jordahl And Brandon Frazier did, Right?
Tim Wildmon He's a big boy now.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon Seen him?
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
We will take a break now for 22 and a half hours
Tim Wildmon All right, we will take a, break now for 22 and a half hours.
Wesley Wildmon That's right.
Steve Jordahl Gotta warm up for the next episode.
Tim Wildmon Back here tomorrow. We hope you have a great day. Keep listening to afr.
Today's Issues continues on AFR with your. Host, Tim Wildman
Ed Vitagliano Today's Issues continues on AFR with your.
Steve Jordahl Host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
Tim Wildmon Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network, where we solve the world's problems one hour at a time, one story at a time, and one story at a time. We got an hour and a half of this show. We got 25 more minutes left. Tim, Ed and Wesley. And now joining us, Steve Paisley Jordal.
Steve Jordahl Good morning everybody, and afternoon here on the east coast. And good evening. If you're in Moscow, I would think.
Wesley Wildmon Yeah, yeah, we do that with the app. We do have people.
Tim Wildmon We have listeners around the world. Yeah. so, Steve, good morning to you. Good morning, or good, as you say, good afternoon to those listening in the Eastern time zone. Although we're, we're in the central. So to you, it's good morning.
GOP Rep. Eric Burleson claims missile fired at unidentified UFO
All right, so what's your first story.
Steve Jordahl For us Brothers T. Well, I think it's time we had a talk.
Ed Vitagliano That's all we've been doing.
Steve Jordahl I know there's been some stuff going on in, on in the government. And in reality, that is under normal circumstances, I would say like 20 years ago, would have consumed our, media, our attention. We would be talking about nothing else. But. And it is. What are those unidentified objects in the sky? There have been a number of what the government is calling uap, they're calling that Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena. They do that so that because the ufo, is used to associate, a lot of, with extraterrestrial. Extraterrestrial aliens and they want to kind of get away from that kind of thing. So they're calling them UAPs, but they have no idea. There's a, There's a committee is called the Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets that met last, yes, last week, a couple days ago, I should say. And, they were, they had some very credible former members of the military, pilots and, and these congressmen asked them about their encounters. I want to have play you a little bit of one of the, one of the questions you're going to hear. First of all, you're going to hear from former, service member Jeffrey Nicatelli. And then you're going to hear Chad Pergram, the Fox reporter who's bringing this report, talk about, something that Representative Eric Burleson from Missouri is going to say. Cut.
Tim Wildmon 17 AOS ensued over the radio as.
Ed Vitagliano The object approached rapidly. I heard my friends screaming. It's coming right at us. It's Coming right for us. GOP Missouri Congressman Eric Burleson showed an alarming video leaked to him anonymously. Burleson contends it shows a US Drone firing a hellfire missile at a UAP off the coast of Yemen last fall. It pivots in some way, and then there's what appears to be debris from the missile. The missile is deflected, and then some pieces of debris appear to be traveling alongside and with this object, for an extended period of time. I'm just now looking at it. I had seen it, during the last segment, the headline. I wanted to click on it, but we were in the middle of a conversation. This is pretty shocking.
Steve Jordahl I know.
Ed Vitagliano this is a hellfire missile fired at this uap. Again, that's an Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, and the missile bounces off this thing.
Steve Jordahl We, as far as we know, there is no technology that would deflect a hellfire missile like that.
Wesley Wildmon Got two questions. One, is it possible the missile could have been a dud? next question would be, where did the, where did the object end?
Steve Jordahl up? They, I don't know. They didn't track it much further than the video shows. So I don't know where it was going or where it came from.
Ed Vitagliano This, this story which I'm reading on Fox now. This is journalist George Knapp, who, I'm familiar with him. He's all in on extraterrestrial hypothesis is what it's called, that these kinds of objects are off planet. They're alien. Okay, so he, he is going to be biased, but this is what he says. That's a hellfire missile smacking into that ufo, and it just bounced right off, and it kept going. And he says there are servers, meaning where you store videos, where there's a whole bank of these kind of videos that Congress has not been allowed to see. Now, one of the questions would. One of the first questions I would ask, and this is surprising, this is going to surprise people, but Congress is not necessarily allowed to see what we've got in terms of technology, that if this is a test of a U.S. U.S. technology, they may be testing to see how it responds in the event of being struck by a missile. I can't answer your question, Wesley, in terms of it being a dud. It's. I think it's very rare for a hellfire missile to be a dud and not detonate. but I, I don't know. I, I, My, my tendency is to think this is our technology that we are testing, and Congress is probably not Going to be told.
Wesley Wildmon Let me ask you this, too. I'm, I'm. This is a whole new world for me, so I may ask some very basic questions for y', all, but I'm.
Ed Vitagliano Not getting into it in detail because last time I did, Tim made fun of me.
Wesley Wildmon And you remember that.
Tim Wildmon I do.
Wesley Wildmon I, Why, why would we. I guess that was an American missile shooting at the unidentified object.
Steve Jordahl Was.
Wesley Wildmon Okay, then why. If we don't know what it is, why are we just shooting at it?
Ed Vitagliano It was off the coast, so it wasn't dangerous. Probably to. It wasn't. These things have been filmed, flying over cities. So then why Middle East?
Wesley Wildmon I guess I'm saying is what do we do? We consider these things a threat, or did it cross a line?
Steve Jordahl There's just so much that is unknown. There's. First of all, we have no list publicly. There' no knowledge of something that would have that kind of propulsion. These things, are known to have. Be hypersonic. They change directions in, in an instant. They go from water to air without any visible, disruption. Doesn't even splash when it goes into the water. And they've, been tracked. I don't know. This would be like Hal Lindsay would be out there preaching on the street corner and everybody be listening to him. If this was 20 years ago and it just is kind of, it's just ho, hum.
Tim Wildmon Can they, leave buildings with a single.
Steve Jordahl It seems to be able to. Yes.
Ed Vitagliano Single bound. Well, what's puzzling about some of the imagery is that the acceleration you're talking about, Steve Ordinary, according to the laws of physics, should create a sonic boom.
Steve Jordahl Right?
Ed Vitagliano That's how fast these things go.
Some interpret UFOs as demonic entities masquerading as otherworldly beings
But it doesn't. And there is no, there is no physical technology, period, that can. Where a physical object can hit the water without causing a splash. That's why there's some question in my mind whether all these things are physical, and we're talking about physical technology, or whether it's metaphysical. Anyway, that's where I got myself into trouble the last time I talked about metaphysical would mean spiritual. Well, or.
Steve Jordahl There is, there is a line of discussion among people who think that these phenomena are a form of demonic deception designed to lead people away from God and into the occult. they. Some interpret that the UAPs are demonic entities masquerading as otherworldly beings. By the way, I got this all from, AI. Thank you very much.
Ed Vitagliano You could have just come to my office.
Steve Jordahl I could have just come to your office, but I didn't.
Ed Vitagliano But I would have shut the door while we talked.
Steve Jordahl So the, proponents of this view believe that the phenomena of UAPs and the fascination with aliens serve as a deliberate distraction, drawing people away from religious faith and towards occult practices. I don't know about that anyway, but they think that this may be the physical manifestation of the spiritual realm. This does some weird things to.
Ed Vitagliano I know, look at it.
Steve Jordahl This does some weird things to your theology. If you want to start talking about, extraterrestrial beings. M. I don't know. I don't know how to envelop that into my theology.
Tim Wildmon Go for it, Steve.
Steve Jordahl No, I don't know.
Wesley Wildmon Answers in Genesis covers this a good bit.
Steve Jordahl Do they?
Wesley Wildmon Yeah, you could go to their website.
Ed Vitagliano There's some excellent books on, on this subject. And, But I've. I've never seen video like this with a missile bouncing off it. So that's the kind of thing. What makes me think. And to answer your question, Wesley, why would we be opening fire on it? We probably have rules of engagement. And where my opinion is, some of this is our technology, and we want a real world test for its capabilities. So you don't tell the military, the guy flying the drone, that this is our tech. You want to test our military capabilities against this new technology? Because if we use it against the Chinese, we want to know how they would respond. So you have rules of engagement where you say, if this is not overpopulated area, open fire on it. M. Okay. You issue warnings and you say, you know, halt or whatever they say, and then you fire. And we want to test and see how, how good it does against conventional weapons. That's just.
Tim Wildmon Where can people watch that video was?
Ed Vitagliano it's on Fox.
Wesley Wildmon It's fascinating.
Steve Jordahl Yeah. If you, look at. For UFO hearing or UAP hearing, the video is likely to come up.
Tim Wildmon I. I do wonder why we fired at it. Did it fired us?
Steve Jordahl I. No, I just. I. I see a movie set with the generals, like, I don't know, you remember the movie where, it was Matthew Broderick, I think. do you want to play a game? And,
Ed Vitagliano War games.
Steve Jordahl War games. And they're sitting in this thing, they're watching this thing, and one of the generals says, hey, oh, let's. Let's throw a Spitfire at it, see what it does. Yeah, I don't know. I just.
Ed Vitagliano Well, there are concerns that if this is not our technology, and, maybe it's Russian, maybe it's Chinese, or maybe it's. Nobody's here on Earth. We want to be prepared. So the reason we would fire at it is either we're testing our own technology, or we want to know how our technology stacks up against it.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, but if it is extraterrestrial, right? If it is from outer space coming to our a planet, and the first thing we do while it's trying to be friendly, you know what I'm saying, flying around our planet is we start firing, trying to destroy it. I mean, is that a way to. Well, when to win friends and influence, beings. I would just ask the question. I don't have an answer. I'm just. It's an open end.
Ed Vitagliano I just. I'll just tell you what my answer is.
Tim Wildmon What's your answer?
Ed Vitagliano They weren't invited. And if they turn out to be hostile, we need to know what we.
Tim Wildmon Can do to defend ourselves in the Hellcat weapon.
Ed Vitagliano Hellfire missile.
Tim Wildmon Missile. Because it bounces off.
All right. Listen, I'll talk about this all day long. I just thought we needed to have a conversation
Steve Jordahl All right. I just thought we needed to have a conversation. Thank you, gentlemen.
Ed Vitagliano It is for. Listen, I'll talk about this all day long.
Tim Wildmon Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano I appreciate you bringing it up.
Wesley Wildmon Sure you do.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. No, it is. It is unexplained. It is. I mean, this is not a. I mean, what. What we saw there on the video. That's. And they're describing there. Next story, Steve.
Representative Jasmine Crockett says law enforcement isn't to prevent crime
Steve Jordahl All right, I want to take us to some of the brainiacs on the opposite side of the aisle from Republicans in Congress.
Tim Wildmon What I was called in high school.
Steve Jordahl Yeah, I bet. Specifically, I want to play something that Representative, Jasmine Crockett from Texas is saying. And now she has become kind of the new voice of the ultra radical Democrats. The squad is.
Tim Wildmon She's the Texas version of aoc.
Steve Jordahl Right.
Tim Wildmon Okay. She's a. She's the brisket.
Steve Jordahl And she, was talking, she was on a, on a podcast called Grounded. And, she was asked about law enforcement. And I mean, I don't know about this, but this is what she had to say. Cut 16.
Tim Wildmon I want to be clear that, like, law enforcement isn't to prevent crime. Law enforcement solves crime, okay? That is what they are supposed to do. They are supposed to solve crimes, not necessarily, prevent them from happening per se.
Steve Jordahl I hear the Scooby Doo. Go.
Tim Wildmon She is a United States House of Representatives member from Dallas area, right?
Steve Jordahl Yes.
Tim Wildmon All right.
Ed Vitagliano that's. That's a ridiculous thing to say. they can do more than one job at a time. It's been. It's been demonstrated in cities that having a greater police presence in high crime areas, per se. Per se. Tends to dampen the amount of crime.
Steve Jordahl Come on, if you got a cop on the corner, you're gonna break into the jewelry store right there.
Tim Wildmon You're not any idea what she's responding to? Right there, talking about she.
Steve Jordahl She's responding to. I think she's taking the. The narrative that these troops that, Donald Trump wants to send into Chicago, that he sent into, Washington, D.C. aren't preventing crime. They don't prevent crime. They solve crime.
Tim Wildmon That's ridiculous.
Steve Jordahl I know it is.
Wesley Wildmon No, no, that would be called a detective. Detective solves crime, scrambles, and then a police officer prevents crimes.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. And oftentimes, or response to crimes, oftentimes just the presence of police will prevent a crime. That's what's happening in Washington, D.C. you put national Guardsmen on every corner. The. The, criminals see that, and they don't want to get. They don't want to, open themselves up to being caught. So. So that was kind of the purpose of sending him.
Where blue police lights are being used, where there are none
Have you also noticed this, where. Where blue police lights are being used, where there are none?
Wesley Wildmon Yes.
Tim Wildmon Have y' all noticed this?
Steve Jordahl No. What? I see. But.
Wesley Wildmon But they're.
Tim Wildmon You know what I'm talking about.
Wesley Wildmon Yes, but they are. But let's be. Let's be very clear. They're put up by law enforcement, though. These are not blue lights that are put up by civilians to trick you.
Tim Wildmon No. Well, maybe so, but I've seen a couple of them on private property. What I'm talking.
Wesley Wildmon Okay, I'm not talking. I've not seen that.
Tim Wildmon I'm not. I'm talking about blue lights being used.
Wesley Wildmon You have to be careful that you don't want to impersonate a cop or.
Tim Wildmon Well, it's not. There's nothing. It's like a blue light being put On a. On a light pole somewhere or something, in a. You know, you got a business. I've seen them at businesses that are closed, obviously, at night. And they put a little blue light up there. That's right. It's not necessarily flashing, like a police officer's lights on a car, but it's what I'm saying, it's a psychological. When I see it, you think police.
Wesley Wildmon Okay?
Tim Wildmon So that's what I think is a deterrent, psychological deterrent, for people to be in places thinking maybe what you said, that the police themselves have a spy camera on them or something.
Wesley Wildmon The ones I referred to are the ones mostly for, speeding. So throughout the highway or town, the police. And in daylight you can see that it's got the police emblem on there. The local police department. And it flashes blue at night in areas that people usually speed.
Steve Jordahl It might be in higher crime areas, someplace to indicate that if people go to that blue light, there's an. There's a place they can communicate with the police. Like a phone. You can pick up and say, hey, this happened or not.
Ed Vitagliano Well, I was always told, you know, if you're in trouble, do not. Don't move towards the white light. But the blue light.
Tim Wildmon Did you say anything to drop and roll.
Ed Vitagliano Stop, drop, roll, stop, drop and roll.
Tim Wildmon Stop, drop and roll. That's what I was taught.
Stanford researchers found that overactive neurons drive autism in mice
Next story. Steve.
Steve Jordahl All right. They are, doing some really good medical stuff with mice, I would have to say. Stanford researchers found that overactive neurons. In the end. I'm gonna lean on you, Tim, to. To tell me what this is, but the reticular thalamic nucleus drive autism like behaviors in mice. Neurons in the reticular thalam. Thou. Thalomatic nucleus. That's what. That's where they are seeing autism like behaviors in mice. And they found some medicine, way, to control the autism. They took autism away from autistic mice and they started behaving normal.
Ed Vitagliano And what. What. What was it that they gave? What was the medicine?
Tim Wildmon Good question.
Steve Jordahl That's a good question. It was. It wasn't a medicine. It was, calming the neurons with a calcium channel blocker.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, they called the neurons. I did that as my 44. I actually did that as my science project. No, in 11th grade.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano Back in those calcium channel blockers.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, I did that. It was new. Nobody knew what I was doing. So I like, got a C minus science teacher. Didn't even know. Couldn't appreciate what I was doing. This is why I tell them what I was doing. Again, Steve, you were.
Steve Jordahl You were calming the neurons. Explain it again. The neurons in the reticular thalamatic nucleus with Z944 calcium channel blockers is what you short.
Tim Wildmon I was helping these mice.
Steve Jordahl You were.
Tim Wildmon What would you have done?
Ed Vitagliano Calming the. What. What was the.
Tim Wildmon Ah, thalmic.
Steve Jordahl The neurons.
Ed Vitagliano Nothing is worse than neurons that need to be calmed. Well, if they're overly excited, neurons.
Steve Jordahl I.
Ed Vitagliano Will tell you with cause all kinds of problems.
Tim Wildmon How do you stop this right here? Steve, we got family. Tell us what the serious issue is. there is a, I try to hold this thing together.
Steve Jordahl I know.
Tim Wildmon Ed Wesley over here.
Ed Vitagliano Sorry.
Tim Wildmon Taking us in all kind of different directions.
Ed Vitagliano Sorry I interrupted your serious discussion. There is a Science project.
Steve Jordahl There is a huge uptick in autism births, and the researchers are trying to figure out what causes it. And they might have had a breakthrough with mice.
Tim Wildmon Gotcha.
Steve Jordahl It's a long ways from being able to do something with humans with autism, but it's something that's kind of interesting that they've been able to find a way to revert autistic mice to normal behavior with.
Ed Vitagliano Well, and also, seriously, it is a step in the right direction to finding out what triggers these neurons. And then all that other stuff you said. I won't belabor the audience listening audience with, asking Tim to explain it all, but it is a. I could.
Tim Wildmon But, bore people.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, it could. It could be a step in the right direction, not only of, interrupting it and carrying it, but also figuring out what triggers it.
Tim Wildmon That's what they're hoping.
Wesley Wildmon What were you talking about? I'm just kidding.
Ed Vitagliano We can talk.
Tim Wildmon About this at lunch if you like.
Wesley Wildmon I got a book on.
Tim Wildmon You want to talk about this?
Ed Vitagliano You have a book on it?
Wesley Wildmon Audio book.
Steve Jordahl Okay. Go ahead.
Apple's new AirPods will be able to translate conversations in foreign languages
Tim Wildmon Steve.
Steve Jordahl Apple is announcing, it's had one of its launches. You know, every so often Apple rents a huge hall in the Bay Area and they get their CEO, or whoever Tim Cook and. Or was in the day was, the, the guy with the turtleneck sweaters, Steve Jobs, he was going. He would demonstrate the new. The new upcoming products from Apple. Well, they still have these things. They're called launches. And it had its biggest launch of the year on September 19th. And this is what it announced. It announced new iPhones and Apple watches that will go on sale September 19th. Most of it was about pricing and new technology, but they had something that I thought was really kind of cool. The new Apple AirPod Pro 3 that they're going to introduce have improved audio quality and noise canceling. One new feature is that they will be able to translate conversations in foreign languages in real time.
Tim Wildmon All, Right. That could be actually beneficial.
Ed Vitagliano Wow. So you put these AirPods in and you can have a conversation, right? Well, you can understand.
Steve Jordahl You can understand what they're saying. It doesn't translate individual words. The meaning of each phrase is translated to you. So when you talk, you just speak naturally.
Tim Wildmon And the AI. The AI interprets, for you to the other individual who doesn't speak that language.
Steve Jordahl I don't, I don't know.
Ed Vitagliano The AirPods that you hear someone speaking, like in French.
Steve Jordahl Right.
Ed Vitagliano And then the AI translates and so that you're hearing it in your Language.
Steve Jordahl As far as communicating back to them, you give them a pair.
Tim Wildmon It's like a, like an interpreter.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon Except it's a, computer generated.
Ed Vitagliano That's.
Steve Jordahl I thought that was pretty incredible. Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano And it's in real time, so there's not much of a today.
Tim Wildmon Ah, let me ask you this. If you go to Boston.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon Can you, get it? Will they interpret that for you?
Steve Jordahl Southern accent. There's no pocket yard.
Ed Vitagliano I don't think it works because I know my iPhone doesn't translate what I.
Steve Jordahl Say when I speak into it.
Ed Vitagliano I have to go and correct it.
Tim Wildmon There are some Southern accents. That's true within interpreting.
Steve Jordahl Just think about how that would go on a European vacation, though, you know, you est.
Ed Vitagliano Where's the bathroom?
Steve Jordahl Where's the bathroom?
Tim Wildmon There you go, Banyo.
Archaeologists are finding treasures in Turkey and Egypt
All right, so we got 45 seconds or how long we got till music starts?
Steve Jordahl About 20 seconds. There's a 2000-year-old Roman Hall. They found the church of Laodicea. Really? Archaeologists have. They're kind of neutral about. They're kind of hot and cold about whether it's.
Tim Wildmon I knew that was coming.
Steve Jordahl Place to be or not, but even.
Tim Wildmon Wait for me on that one, lady.
Steve Jordahl It's in Turkey. The site holds carvings to early Christian worship. And, the Andelu Agency announced this in August. They have found Laodicea.
Ed Vitagliano They're discovering all kinds of Israel. And in Turkey and Jordan, they're finding all kinds.
Tim Wildmon Egypt, too. They're defining a, They're finding artifacts that confirm what the Bible says.
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Tim Wildmon About history.
Ed Vitagliano Now, I will. I will say I wasn't too thrilled what they found in Egypt a couple of weeks ago. It was a mummy. But there was a warning not to open the sarcophagus or the mummy would come to life and bring doom and destruction.
Steve Jordahl And Brandon Frazier did, Right?
Tim Wildmon He's a big boy now.
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
Tim Wildmon Seen him?
Steve Jordahl Yeah.
We will take a break now for 22 and a half hours
Tim Wildmon All right, we will take a, break now for 22 and a half hours.
Wesley Wildmon That's right.
Steve Jordahl Gotta warm up for the next episode.
Tim Wildmon Back here tomorrow. We hope you have a great day. Keep listening to afr.
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