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Today's Issues features Chris Woodward on American Family Radio Network
Tim Wildmon Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Today's issue is the name of this show. Tim, Ed Wesley. And now Chris Woodward joins us. Good morning.
Chris Woodward Good morning. I just was reminded why I was in the band and not on the basketball team. Because I tried to make a shot in the can over here and missed.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, that's only like three feet. It's a pretty big can.
Ed Vitagliano You could just about do a Tomahawk jam.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. So you missed that shot.
Chris Woodward Not with my little T. Rex arms.
Ed Vitagliano T. Rex.
Tim Wildmon You're too hard on yourself, Chris.
Wesley Wildmon You are. You're way too hard on yourself.
Ed Vitagliano But now that's all I'm gonna. That's all I'm gonna see.
Tim Wildmon Did you say five six and a half?
Chris Woodward I'm five six with shoes on.
Tim Wildmon Okay.
Wesley Wildmon But he has.
Tim Wildmon I've had great.
Chris Woodward I got a lot of heart, though.
Wesley Wildmon As hard as he is on himself, he is wearing purple. Yeah. Some confidence.
Ed Vitagliano You may only be 5 6, but you have the heart of someone who's 5 8.
Tim Wildmon Yes, you do, Chris. I was going to say the same thing. That's. You should know.
Chris Woodward You should have put that on my tombstone.
Ed Vitagliano You shouldn't have brought this up.
Tim Wildmon you always learn in life, though, there's always somebody taller than you.
Wesley Wildmon And I have somebody shorter than your bowl. How you look at it?
Tim Wildmon That's your minute bowl.
Ed Vitagliano New bowl.
Tim Wildmon Five six.
Chris Woodward Remember, Mugsy M. Bogues?
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon He was right down in that street.
Ed Vitagliano He was one of my people, the Rockets.
Tim Wildmon He had rocket legs.
Chris Woodward I think he was in the dunk competition back in the day. Now that I think about it, he was.
Ed Vitagliano He was quite a player.
Tim Wildmon He couldn't outdo 5 foot 4 spud Webb, though.
Chris Woodward Yeah, I forgot about him.
Tim Wildmon Go. Huh? You remember Spud Web? I think he's five six. Think Spud Web was a full 56.
Ed Vitagliano Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Tim Wildmon Look up Spud.
Ed Vitagliano I'm g. Do it.
Tim Wildmon Look up Spud Web on the Internet. On that there Internet. And See if. See if I'm not.
Ed Vitagliano If, you don't spud web height.
Tim Wildmon See, look how tall he.
Ed Vitagliano Five seven, right?
Tim Wildmon He's five seven. And Manute bowl was 77, I think. 76. Right. Because we got a picture of them both over here. Yeah, it's like, Really, It was a modern day mutton, Jeff. Yes, that's what it was there. Right there.
Wesley Wildmon They weren't on the same team that. Were they.
When I was in high school, I wanted to go into sports
Tim Wildmon Listen, I think we're getting a little distracted here.
Wesley Wildmon I need to be distracted today as much as possible.
Ed Vitagliano You're pretty wound up.
Tim Wildmon I'm pretty wound up.
Chris Woodward I did. I did, when I was, you know, in high school, thinking about what I wanted to do when I grew up. And I still have growing up to do, but, when I was in high school, I wanted to go into sports. That was what I was going to do with broadcasting. So this was my way to have.
Tim Wildmon A. Oh, I thought she was going to say, with your life. So I was going to say, which sport did you.
Ed Vitagliano Mugsy Bogues was only five, dad.
Wesley Wildmon You just can't help yourself, y'.
Chris Woodward All.
Tim Wildmon That's who I meant. Not Spudwell, But Mugsy Bogues. 5:3 in the NBA.
Chris Woodward Good for him.
Tim Wildmon That's, a. That's. Is that not a motivating story? I don't know what is.
Ed Vitagliano That's motivated. I feel motivated.
Tim Wildmon You can do anything. You said. No, you can't.
Chris Woodward That's the next AFS project. Short people can do stuff, too.
Ed Vitagliano I just feel bad. I know we're kind of going on here. Say this one thing because this is important. parents who tell their kids, you can do anything and you can be anything you want. That is not true. Yeah, I mean, there's something.
Tim Wildmon And the kids find out that. And the kids, like, they find out about Santa Claus.
Ed Vitagliano Well, you need to be careful here.
Wesley Wildmon Easy.
Ed Vitagliano We are on. We're on.
Tim Wildmon The public airways said that. Okay.
Ed Vitagliano No, you shouldn't have.
Wesley Wildmon Well, we are doing school hours, so you do get a pass there.
Ed Vitagliano Unless you're talking about home school. Santa Claus, based on. I don't think Saint Nicholas. Okay, okay. I've already warned you one time.
Wesley Wildmon That's true.
Tim Wildmon all right, yes. Let's reset this show on a more somber note and serious note.
Two dead, four injured in Dallas shooting at an ICE center
Do, you know anything more about the Dallas shooting at the Ice center yet, Chris?
Chris Woodward No, nothing will be said. Nothing beyond what she reported.
Tim Wildmon Okay. in case you haven't heard, folks, in Dallas this morning, about three hours ago, there was a shooting three or four hours ago. There was a. A guy. I'm assuming it was a guy from top of a building near an ice center. Ice. Immigration Customs Enforcement. They were shot. Shots rang out. Two people are dead, four people injured. And, the. According to the FBI, that the person, who shot himself.
Wesley Wildmon There's the image right there. I know the, listening. Listening audience can't see it, but there's bullets right here. The image. And the FBI is reporting the bullets that were found had anti. Ice messaging on them. And then, of course, we're looking at the images right now. Yeah, it looks like they use a Sharpie on.
Tim Wildmon Let me ask you this. Could a. Okay, now hear me out before you just blast me.
Wesley Wildmon I'm not gonna blast.
Ed Vitagliano We're not gonna blast.
Tim Wildmon And you might blast me if I'm in the water. Out of the water.
Wesley Wildmon Okay.
Tim Wildmon I don't even want to be in the water because you might blast me out of the water last.
Ed Vitagliano Out of the water.
Tim Wildmon Could a. The people that were shot were the, immigrants or the. Were. They were the ones who got being deported.
Chris Woodward True detainees is how they've been identified or left.
Tim Wildmon So the shooter either a. What if he put. Wrote this on there, but he's really.
Chris Woodward Making the other way covering it up.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Chris Woodward It's possible.
Ed Vitagliano I don't know.
Wesley Wildmon You need evidence for that.
Ed Vitagliano Anti Ice messages on the rounds.
Tim Wildmon why would an anti. Ice. Why would an anti. ICE guy kill illegal immigrants?
Ed Vitagliano Yes. maybe just not a good. This sounds terrible. Maybe he just opened fire trying to hit agents. Just. Yeah, just.
Chris Woodward Yeah, we actually had this conversation in the newsroom right before I came in right now.
Tim Wildmon And then.
Wesley Wildmon That makes weird.
Tim Wildmon We need more information. But that's the FBI saying they were anti. Ice messages on the bullets and they showed a picture of it where the killer was found. He had shot himself, evidently.
Ed Vitagliano I'm going to be honest now you. You know more about rifles than I do. Wesley. That looks like a clip. Yes, I said clip. For, an M1 Garand from World War II.
Wesley Wildmon It does.
Ed Vitagliano It's not a magazine. It is. It looks like a clip. Five rounds that if you watch Saving Private Ryan, that's the weapon they use where they feed it in the top.
Tim Wildmon really? Why would you use something like that?
Chris Woodward I don't.
Ed Vitagliano I don't know if that's the weapon the person had.
Wesley Wildmon That's unusual. That. That. That is not.
Ed Vitagliano You know, any other kind of rifle that uses a clip like that.
Wesley Wildmon No, that's very unusual.
Tim Wildmon All right. So we'll see what happens there.
There's a big story that broke yesterday. We haven't even had a chance to get to how big
All right. There's a big story that. That broke yesterday. We haven't even had a chance to get to how big. Well, it. It was. It was.
Wesley Wildmon You know, I got you on that one.
Tim Wildmon Yeah.
Wesley Wildmon You're about to answer like, that's.
Tim Wildmon That's what. That's what I do.
Wesley Wildmon Yes, it is.
Tim Wildmon And that's really left. Okay. Like father, like son. don't be a smarty.
Wesley Wildmon You're welcome.
Tim Wildmon I'm. Don't be a smarty.
Wesley Wildmon It's for the audience.
Tim Wildmon It'll come back.
Wesley Wildmon It will come smart.
Tim Wildmon It will come back to you. What goes around keeps going around. That's what I was always taught. Huh?
Ed Vitagliano don't be a smarty.
Tim Wildmon Don't be a fool with your life.
YouTube says it will soon let creators back on the platform who were previously banned
All right, tell us about the YouTube story.
Chris Woodward Yes. YouTube says it will soon let creators back on the platform who were previously banned over now retired content policies, including those prohibiting what YouTube used to call misinformation about things like the 2020 US election results and COVID 19 policies. A lawyer for Alphabet and disclosing the Alphabet. Alphabet is the company, that owns Google and YouTube.
Tim Wildmon Is that what they're called?
Chris Woodward It's. Yes. It's a parent company of Google and YouTube. A lawyer for Alphabet, in disclosing the move, said the Biden administration had pressured the Internet company to crack down on YouTube content that government officials at the time deemed as misinformation about things such as Covid.
YouTube banned us multiple times for what they called violating community standards
Tim Wildmon Okay, so Brent Creely, our, ah, producer, rarely heard here, but, a man of profound thought and, great power. Yes.
Ed Vitagliano Because he can make any of us sound like Donald Duck.
Tim Wildmon His intellect is somewhere between average and slightly, Slightly above average, which, that's a compliment. Anytime your intellect, say so, can be slightly above average. That. Is that not a compliment?
Wesley Wildmon It is. And it's funny how he's looking at me as he's saying that because we're on the same camp.
Tim Wildmon I wanted to compliment you on that. you heard this story yesterday? Last night, we sent it around. YouTube says now they're going to welcome back people they banned. Why did they ban. They banned us like, multiple times back in the day. What they banned us for?
Ed Vitagliano They banned us for what they called violating community standards. Now we know the community standards was ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine. Hydroxychloroquine. That Ed would always say. And get us banned.
Tim Wildmon Right? I didn't say it. Ed said it. But it's okay.
Ed Vitagliano He had his conviction and I Will always say. I will always stand. Right.
Tim Wildmon So they banned us. I mean, YouTube wrote us and said, we're taking you off the air. That's correct. And a lot of people watch us on YouTube but said, we're taking you off the air because you're giving. You're giving misinformation now. Well, they didn't say that. They said, you're violating community standards.
Ed Vitagliano Right.
Tim Wildmon So we can never argue back with them because, they.
Ed Vitagliano They never would narrow down exactly what it was that we said.
Tim Wildmon Right. So we knew it. Looking at it. we knew what happened right there. Ed's giving medical advice.
Ed Vitagliano I wouldn't. I don't back down when it comes to hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin. I will never back down.
Tim Wildmon You know, can you spell hydroclar?
Wesley Wildmon Have you always, that word. Is that. Is that you or am I rubbing off on you on the. Never back down.
Tim Wildmon petty fan.
Ed Vitagliano But now we. We were. Now, have we still been banned since then on YouTube? okay, so they. They ended up shutting that channel down. So be quiet right here, because we did.
Tim Wildmon We were.
Ed Vitagliano Okay, we did an end run, and I think the 2020 election was stolen.
Tim Wildmon But go ahead, get us going to get us banned again. Anyway, so we're back on the air. We.
Ed Vitagliano We are, but we went around and started a different YouTube channel.
Tim Wildmon We turned a new. Over a new leaf.
Ed Vitagliano Oh, okay. Yeah, so I probably shouldn't have said that.
Tim Wildmon It was like the old leaf. The old. But the new leaf looked different.
Ed Vitagliano It's exactly the same, but different.
Government pressured social media companies to ban conservatives from criticizing CDC, Wesley says
Tim Wildmon All right, so anyway, YouTube's letting everybody back on Dan Bongino's back, or at least not. He. He was the one of the ones banned. A lot of conservatives were banned because questioning. The questioning of what the government was telling us about COVID caused. And this is where. Back to your point earlier, Wesley, this is what. This is what Biden and the Democrats did. Yeah. They insisted that the social media companies in particular ban anybody who disagreed with the CDC.
Wesley Wildmon Correct.
Tim Wildmon Or Dr. Fauci. Or the White House. line on.
Wesley Wildmon That's right.
Tim Wildmon On Covid.
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Tim Wildmon Right.
Wesley Wildmon I'm trying to think from the White House down. They did that, and they did so because Zuckerberg. Ed reminded us of this in the last segment, but Zuckerberg has now, officially admitted. Yeah, we covered this. M. Week of. But he officially admitted.
Tim Wildmon He said Biden. Biden administration wait on him. I mean, they. They like, pressured them. Pressured them.
Ed Vitagliano And by the way, now a. Okay, so this. This is A kind of a. It's a complex issue. Okay.
Tim Wildmon Which we can do here.
Ed Vitagliano Well, we can, we can handle this. Our, our IQ average. Just like Brent. Okay.
Wesley Wildmon 120.
Ed Vitagliano So here's three things that are critical to understanding this issue, folks. Ready?
Tim Wildmon Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano Three things.
Tim Wildmon Well, I'm gonna write them down. Go ahead.
Ed Vitagliano First, number one, a company has a First amendment right to, I'm speaking generally. To allow people, for example, YouTube, Facebook. To allow people to speak or not allow people to speak. Okay. It's a company that's number one. Number two, if the government behind the scenes pressures them to take away people's first amendment rights, that still counts as a violation of the First Amendment because the government.
Ed Vitagliano Is simply using YouTube to do its bidding to squelch people's free speech. And the third thing I will say that makes this complicated is some of these companies, including Google. Okay, Facebook maybe to a lesser extent, but certainly Google. Some of these companies are so big you can't exist in our culture without access to them. So they become more like platforms that allow free speech than just simple, than a simple private business. So we've talked about credit card companies.
Chris Woodward Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano Okay. Credit card companies have the right to say, well, if you make guns, we're not going to let you have one of our credit cards. Okay. Technically that is your right.
Ed Vitagliano But you, you can't. When things become so big and there's only three or four credit card companies out there, you are essentially ending the possibility of someone participating in the culture. You can't have, like the carriers for phones. Say we're, we're, we're, we're. We're a company. We're not letting you use the airwaves for the inner. You know, you can't use the Internet. All right? You are, you are keeping people from accessing normal life. And so it becomes kind of complicated.
Wesley Wildmon You're opening up new doors here. Our old doors, remember?
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Tim Wildmon Old wounds done his whole life.
Wesley Wildmon That's right. Opened up new doors.
Tim Wildmon All doors for meeting people.
Wesley Wildmon And when you were saying that, that reminds me, even for the. We talk, remember, we talk about conflating things. You got government versus privately owned. Here was the, here's the problem with the social media. And I can make a case during.
Tim Wildmon COVID what we're talking about here.
Wesley Wildmon Yes. During COVID I can make a case that even they were violating the law because they were, they were getting funds as if they were a, ah, plat. They were a platform versus a publisher.
Ed Vitagliano Publisher, right.
Wesley Wildmon Do you remember this argument.
Tim Wildmon Yeah.
Wesley Wildmon And so they were, they were, they were. If you're a publisher, you can correct things, you can change things, you can edit things, you can, you can refuse things.
The federal government pressured social media giants to censor, Joe Biden says
But when you're a platform, they were getting federal money for being a platform that I need, I need some MAGA here.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand.
Wesley Wildmon Yeah.
Tim Wildmon I don't disagree.
Ed Vitagliano Well, it's just, it's just like, like locally there is a company that you get your electricity from.
Ed Vitagliano Okay. sometimes these are tied to the local city government, but sometimes they're private utilities. Utilities, you can't say, well, we don't like American Family association, so no energy for you.
Wesley Wildmon Right.
Ed Vitagliano Okay. At some point these, companies become large enough that you have to access them or you can't participate.
Tim Wildmon Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano Society.
Tim Wildmon But the point is here that the, yeah. The federal government through, and the President, United States, his administration, Joe Biden, was pressuring the social media giants YouTube, Facebook and others to censor, do censoring on their behalf over Covid. I don't remember much about the election, results how that I don't remember.
Chris Woodward But basically talking about how Biden that got you banned. Pretty much.
Ed Vitagliano So anyway, any speculation, by the way, this is also why Elon Musk got so much hatred when he bought Twitter, because now the left couldn't control Twitter either.
Wesley Wildmon That's right.
Ed Vitagliano Okay. And that made them crazy.
Education Secretary Ryan Walters wants to put TPUSA chapters in Oklahoma schools
Wesley Wildmon Free speech, next story.
Tim Wildmon Chris?
Chris Woodward Well, since the passing of Charlie, Kirk, a number of legislators, federal, state and local, as well as bureaucrats have talked about efforts to try to honor the slain Christian and conservative activists. For example, on her radio program this morning, our Jenna Ellis discussed efforts in a county in Florida to rename a portion of a road or highway after Charlie Kirk. And it looks like they are going in that direction. Meanwhile, in Oklahoma, Education Secretary Ryan Walters wants to put TPUSA chapters in Oklahoma schools.
Walker Wildmon Clip 15 I'm excited to announce today that every Oklahoma high school will have a Turning Point USA chapter. We have seen the outpouring from parents, teachers and students that want to be engaged in the meaningful work going on at Turning Point. They want their young people to be engaged in a process that understands free speech, open engagement, dialogue about American greatness, a dialogue around American values. We're so excited to partner with Turning Point USA with this initiative. For far too long, we have seen radical leftists with the teachers union dominate classrooms and push woke indoctrination on our kids. They fight parents rights, they push parents out of the classroom and they lie to our kids about American history. What we're going to continue to do is make sure that our kids understand American greatness, engage in civic dialogue, and have that open discussion. We will continue to do all that we can to make sure Oklahoma students have the best education possible.
Tim Wildmon That was who.
Chris Woodward That was Education Secretary Ryan Walters of Oklahoma.
Tim Wildmon Yes, he's been here with us. Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano I'll tell you what's. What's interesting is I see more and more students now who are willing, I'm not so sure in, like, high school, but certainly in college campuses, but maybe in high school, too, high school classrooms who are willing to use their phones to catch their instructors saying bad things about the country and, promoting their own particular, you know, cultural, political beliefs. And so these instructors, are having to answer for it. And I'm, I'm glad that some of them are being exposed.
Chris Woodward Yeah. and it's not necessarily even, in recent years that professors have gone, woke or said crazy things in class. I remember 20 years ago when I was in college, I was in a mass media law class, to where we were supposed to be going over things, laws and regulations involving. Involving what you can say in print and in broadcast. And I remember someday, for just some random reason, our professor decided to take time out of mass media law class to share her $0.02 on why the Supreme Court should never overturn Roe v. Wade, saying that was 20 years ago. And I'm sure there was a lot of gobbledygook and nonsense from, like, the Berkeley professors back in the day and stuff like that, but you could never prove it. That's true. Yeah, we didn't have, back 20 years ago, we didn't have the smartphones like they do today. But to, your point, there's a number of organizations now, like Young America's Foundation, Campus Reform, they have tip lines where they ask students to record and send these things in. Parents Defending Education also has, something similar. And it's because of those efforts that we've actually had the stories and the sound bites from people, on these kinds of crazy things over the past couple of years on the show, which is now on YouTube. So, yeah.
There's a massive ideological rift between young men and young women
Tim Wildmon Next story. Chris.
Chris Woodward All right, there is, some research out there that finds, a lot more M. Men in America, particularly, 30 and under, say, men in America particularly.
Tim Wildmon Those are good.
Chris Woodward yeah, I kind of stumbled over. But anyway, okay, men under the age of 30 are putting off, marriage. And one of the reasons m might be the fact that they can't find people that, agree with them or align with them ideologically. For example, Fox had this story today, men are becoming more conservative, whereas women, according to some researchers, are becoming more liberal. And one lady weighing in on that is a conservative, ah, lady by the name of Kayleigh McGee White at Independent Women's Forum.
Chris Woodward Clip 16 part of the problem is there's a massive ideological rift right now between young men and young women. And this bears out in the data. Young men have been leaning more conservative for the past several years while young women are becoming more and more liberal. And this is reflected in the things that they value. There was a recent NBC survey that found that family and marriage were top priorities for young men, and they were dead last for young women. So until we start to bridge this gender gap, I fear that the dating scene is going to remain very difficult for gen zers.
Ed Vitagliano That's sad. I've been seeing stuff on social media, that kind of indicate that, but I thought it was anecdotal. She's saying the data is starting to prove this. Young men want to get married and have families. But that is dead last for a lot of young women. And I have been hearing about this political divide too, between young men and young women. And they are worlds apart. This is sad for the prospects of, you know, if you're, if you're trying to. Young men, if you're out there and you're trying to find, a fine young woman to marry, go to church, go m. To a Bible believing church and find someone there with hit on girls. Well, I'm saying at church, get involved and you're going to the Lord, you're going.
Tim Wildmon Good grief.
Ed Vitagliano Okay, well, you know, some people can do more than one thing at the same time. I met my wife at a Bible college. Tim.
Wesley Wildmon I think I feel like the odds are if you go to church.
Ed Vitagliano Thank you, Wesley.
Wesley Wildmon You're most likely to find someone who also believes in what the church is teaching.
Ed Vitagliano Yes. Yes, Very good. Thank you.
Chris Woodward Yeah. And there is, there has been a big uptick in interest in going to church and reading the Bible.
Wesley Wildmon So you can see that.
Tim Wildmon You can clarify that because that sounded bad. It said, hey, if you want to find a girl, man, go to church. I'll go the bar, go to church and you can hit on the girls there.
Ed Vitagliano I didn't say hit on, gentlemen.
Tim Wildmon All right. That was a crude way of saying, you know, stick them out. I find you a woman at the, at the, at the Sunday school class.
Wesley Wildmon Okay, let's play this. Okay. We'll do it the other way. Dad says to go to the bar.
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Wesley Wildmon Oh, no, no.
Tim Wildmon I did not say no to the bar.
Wesley Wildmon Okay, that just hurt.
Tim Wildmon I. I know Ed's heart.
Ed Vitagliano I bet you don't know what's in it.
Tim Wildmon Right now, it's 60. Good.
Wesley Wildmon That's funny.
Ed Vitagliano I just had cataract surgery. I'm not supposed to be laughing this much.
Tim Wildmon Okay.
Ed Vitagliano It's gonna pop out.
Tim Wildmon Anyway. Where were we?
Ed Vitagliano I don't know. You're not getting any help.
Tim Wildmon Oh, yeah.
Ed Vitagliano You're a drift on a, On a stormy ocean, and I'm watching you flail about. Go ahead.
Tim Wildmon We're out of time, and that's probably a good thing.
Chris Woodward Okay.
Tim Wildmon And we hope that you have a wonderful day, and we'll see you back here tomorrow.
>> Hello, I'm Steve Crampton, assistant General Counsel for the American Family Association. The mission of AFA is to inform, equip and activate individuals to strengthen the moral foundations of American culture and give aid to the church here and abroad in its task of fulfilling the Great Commission. Our vision is to be a leading organization in biblical worldview training in the interest of cultural transformation. Thank you for standing with the American Family Association.
>> Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
Today's Issues features Chris Woodward on American Family Radio Network
Tim Wildmon Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Today's issue is the name of this show. Tim, Ed Wesley. And now Chris Woodward joins us. Good morning.
Chris Woodward Good morning. I just was reminded why I was in the band and not on the basketball team. Because I tried to make a shot in the can over here and missed.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, that's only like three feet. It's a pretty big can.
Ed Vitagliano You could just about do a Tomahawk jam.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. So you missed that shot.
Chris Woodward Not with my little T. Rex arms.
Ed Vitagliano T. Rex.
Tim Wildmon You're too hard on yourself, Chris.
Wesley Wildmon You are. You're way too hard on yourself.
Ed Vitagliano But now that's all I'm gonna. That's all I'm gonna see.
Tim Wildmon Did you say five six and a half?
Chris Woodward I'm five six with shoes on.
Tim Wildmon Okay.
Wesley Wildmon But he has.
Tim Wildmon I've had great.
Chris Woodward I got a lot of heart, though.
Wesley Wildmon As hard as he is on himself, he is wearing purple. Yeah. Some confidence.
Ed Vitagliano You may only be 5 6, but you have the heart of someone who's 5 8.
Tim Wildmon Yes, you do, Chris. I was going to say the same thing. That's. You should know.
Chris Woodward You should have put that on my tombstone.
Ed Vitagliano You shouldn't have brought this up.
Tim Wildmon you always learn in life, though, there's always somebody taller than you.
Wesley Wildmon And I have somebody shorter than your bowl. How you look at it?
Tim Wildmon That's your minute bowl.
Ed Vitagliano New bowl.
Tim Wildmon Five six.
Chris Woodward Remember, Mugsy M. Bogues?
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon He was right down in that street.
Ed Vitagliano He was one of my people, the Rockets.
Tim Wildmon He had rocket legs.
Chris Woodward I think he was in the dunk competition back in the day. Now that I think about it, he was.
Ed Vitagliano He was quite a player.
Tim Wildmon He couldn't outdo 5 foot 4 spud Webb, though.
Chris Woodward Yeah, I forgot about him.
Tim Wildmon Go. Huh? You remember Spud Web? I think he's five six. Think Spud Web was a full 56.
Ed Vitagliano Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Tim Wildmon Look up Spud.
Ed Vitagliano I'm g. Do it.
Tim Wildmon Look up Spud Web on the Internet. On that there Internet. And See if. See if I'm not.
Ed Vitagliano If, you don't spud web height.
Tim Wildmon See, look how tall he.
Ed Vitagliano Five seven, right?
Tim Wildmon He's five seven. And Manute bowl was 77, I think. 76. Right. Because we got a picture of them both over here. Yeah, it's like, Really, It was a modern day mutton, Jeff. Yes, that's what it was there. Right there.
Wesley Wildmon They weren't on the same team that. Were they.
When I was in high school, I wanted to go into sports
Tim Wildmon Listen, I think we're getting a little distracted here.
Wesley Wildmon I need to be distracted today as much as possible.
Ed Vitagliano You're pretty wound up.
Tim Wildmon I'm pretty wound up.
Chris Woodward I did. I did, when I was, you know, in high school, thinking about what I wanted to do when I grew up. And I still have growing up to do, but, when I was in high school, I wanted to go into sports. That was what I was going to do with broadcasting. So this was my way to have.
Tim Wildmon A. Oh, I thought she was going to say, with your life. So I was going to say, which sport did you.
Ed Vitagliano Mugsy Bogues was only five, dad.
Wesley Wildmon You just can't help yourself, y'.
Chris Woodward All.
Tim Wildmon That's who I meant. Not Spudwell, But Mugsy Bogues. 5:3 in the NBA.
Chris Woodward Good for him.
Tim Wildmon That's, a. That's. Is that not a motivating story? I don't know what is.
Ed Vitagliano That's motivated. I feel motivated.
Tim Wildmon You can do anything. You said. No, you can't.
Chris Woodward That's the next AFS project. Short people can do stuff, too.
Ed Vitagliano I just feel bad. I know we're kind of going on here. Say this one thing because this is important. parents who tell their kids, you can do anything and you can be anything you want. That is not true. Yeah, I mean, there's something.
Tim Wildmon And the kids find out that. And the kids, like, they find out about Santa Claus.
Ed Vitagliano Well, you need to be careful here.
Wesley Wildmon Easy.
Ed Vitagliano We are on. We're on.
Tim Wildmon The public airways said that. Okay.
Ed Vitagliano No, you shouldn't have.
Wesley Wildmon Well, we are doing school hours, so you do get a pass there.
Ed Vitagliano Unless you're talking about home school. Santa Claus, based on. I don't think Saint Nicholas. Okay, okay. I've already warned you one time.
Wesley Wildmon That's true.
Tim Wildmon all right, yes. Let's reset this show on a more somber note and serious note.
Two dead, four injured in Dallas shooting at an ICE center
Do, you know anything more about the Dallas shooting at the Ice center yet, Chris?
Chris Woodward No, nothing will be said. Nothing beyond what she reported.
Tim Wildmon Okay. in case you haven't heard, folks, in Dallas this morning, about three hours ago, there was a shooting three or four hours ago. There was a. A guy. I'm assuming it was a guy from top of a building near an ice center. Ice. Immigration Customs Enforcement. They were shot. Shots rang out. Two people are dead, four people injured. And, the. According to the FBI, that the person, who shot himself.
Wesley Wildmon There's the image right there. I know the, listening. Listening audience can't see it, but there's bullets right here. The image. And the FBI is reporting the bullets that were found had anti. Ice messaging on them. And then, of course, we're looking at the images right now. Yeah, it looks like they use a Sharpie on.
Tim Wildmon Let me ask you this. Could a. Okay, now hear me out before you just blast me.
Wesley Wildmon I'm not gonna blast.
Ed Vitagliano We're not gonna blast.
Tim Wildmon And you might blast me if I'm in the water. Out of the water.
Wesley Wildmon Okay.
Tim Wildmon I don't even want to be in the water because you might blast me out of the water last.
Ed Vitagliano Out of the water.
Tim Wildmon Could a. The people that were shot were the, immigrants or the. Were. They were the ones who got being deported.
Chris Woodward True detainees is how they've been identified or left.
Tim Wildmon So the shooter either a. What if he put. Wrote this on there, but he's really.
Chris Woodward Making the other way covering it up.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Chris Woodward It's possible.
Ed Vitagliano I don't know.
Wesley Wildmon You need evidence for that.
Ed Vitagliano Anti Ice messages on the rounds.
Tim Wildmon why would an anti. Ice. Why would an anti. ICE guy kill illegal immigrants?
Ed Vitagliano Yes. maybe just not a good. This sounds terrible. Maybe he just opened fire trying to hit agents. Just. Yeah, just.
Chris Woodward Yeah, we actually had this conversation in the newsroom right before I came in right now.
Tim Wildmon And then.
Wesley Wildmon That makes weird.
Tim Wildmon We need more information. But that's the FBI saying they were anti. Ice messages on the bullets and they showed a picture of it where the killer was found. He had shot himself, evidently.
Ed Vitagliano I'm going to be honest now you. You know more about rifles than I do. Wesley. That looks like a clip. Yes, I said clip. For, an M1 Garand from World War II.
Wesley Wildmon It does.
Ed Vitagliano It's not a magazine. It is. It looks like a clip. Five rounds that if you watch Saving Private Ryan, that's the weapon they use where they feed it in the top.
Tim Wildmon really? Why would you use something like that?
Chris Woodward I don't.
Ed Vitagliano I don't know if that's the weapon the person had.
Wesley Wildmon That's unusual. That. That. That is not.
Ed Vitagliano You know, any other kind of rifle that uses a clip like that.
Wesley Wildmon No, that's very unusual.
Tim Wildmon All right. So we'll see what happens there.
There's a big story that broke yesterday. We haven't even had a chance to get to how big
All right. There's a big story that. That broke yesterday. We haven't even had a chance to get to how big. Well, it. It was. It was.
Wesley Wildmon You know, I got you on that one.
Tim Wildmon Yeah.
Wesley Wildmon You're about to answer like, that's.
Tim Wildmon That's what. That's what I do.
Wesley Wildmon Yes, it is.
Tim Wildmon And that's really left. Okay. Like father, like son. don't be a smarty.
Wesley Wildmon You're welcome.
Tim Wildmon I'm. Don't be a smarty.
Wesley Wildmon It's for the audience.
Tim Wildmon It'll come back.
Wesley Wildmon It will come smart.
Tim Wildmon It will come back to you. What goes around keeps going around. That's what I was always taught. Huh?
Ed Vitagliano don't be a smarty.
Tim Wildmon Don't be a fool with your life.
YouTube says it will soon let creators back on the platform who were previously banned
All right, tell us about the YouTube story.
Chris Woodward Yes. YouTube says it will soon let creators back on the platform who were previously banned over now retired content policies, including those prohibiting what YouTube used to call misinformation about things like the 2020 US election results and COVID 19 policies. A lawyer for Alphabet and disclosing the Alphabet. Alphabet is the company, that owns Google and YouTube.
Tim Wildmon Is that what they're called?
Chris Woodward It's. Yes. It's a parent company of Google and YouTube. A lawyer for Alphabet, in disclosing the move, said the Biden administration had pressured the Internet company to crack down on YouTube content that government officials at the time deemed as misinformation about things such as Covid.
YouTube banned us multiple times for what they called violating community standards
Tim Wildmon Okay, so Brent Creely, our, ah, producer, rarely heard here, but, a man of profound thought and, great power. Yes.
Ed Vitagliano Because he can make any of us sound like Donald Duck.
Tim Wildmon His intellect is somewhere between average and slightly, Slightly above average, which, that's a compliment. Anytime your intellect, say so, can be slightly above average. That. Is that not a compliment?
Wesley Wildmon It is. And it's funny how he's looking at me as he's saying that because we're on the same camp.
Tim Wildmon I wanted to compliment you on that. you heard this story yesterday? Last night, we sent it around. YouTube says now they're going to welcome back people they banned. Why did they ban. They banned us like, multiple times back in the day. What they banned us for?
Ed Vitagliano They banned us for what they called violating community standards. Now we know the community standards was ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine. Hydroxychloroquine. That Ed would always say. And get us banned.
Tim Wildmon Right? I didn't say it. Ed said it. But it's okay.
Ed Vitagliano He had his conviction and I Will always say. I will always stand. Right.
Tim Wildmon So they banned us. I mean, YouTube wrote us and said, we're taking you off the air. That's correct. And a lot of people watch us on YouTube but said, we're taking you off the air because you're giving. You're giving misinformation now. Well, they didn't say that. They said, you're violating community standards.
Ed Vitagliano Right.
Tim Wildmon So we can never argue back with them because, they.
Ed Vitagliano They never would narrow down exactly what it was that we said.
Tim Wildmon Right. So we knew it. Looking at it. we knew what happened right there. Ed's giving medical advice.
Ed Vitagliano I wouldn't. I don't back down when it comes to hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin. I will never back down.
Tim Wildmon You know, can you spell hydroclar?
Wesley Wildmon Have you always, that word. Is that. Is that you or am I rubbing off on you on the. Never back down.
Tim Wildmon petty fan.
Ed Vitagliano But now we. We were. Now, have we still been banned since then on YouTube? okay, so they. They ended up shutting that channel down. So be quiet right here, because we did.
Tim Wildmon We were.
Ed Vitagliano Okay, we did an end run, and I think the 2020 election was stolen.
Tim Wildmon But go ahead, get us going to get us banned again. Anyway, so we're back on the air. We.
Ed Vitagliano We are, but we went around and started a different YouTube channel.
Tim Wildmon We turned a new. Over a new leaf.
Ed Vitagliano Oh, okay. Yeah, so I probably shouldn't have said that.
Tim Wildmon It was like the old leaf. The old. But the new leaf looked different.
Ed Vitagliano It's exactly the same, but different.
Government pressured social media companies to ban conservatives from criticizing CDC, Wesley says
Tim Wildmon All right, so anyway, YouTube's letting everybody back on Dan Bongino's back, or at least not. He. He was the one of the ones banned. A lot of conservatives were banned because questioning. The questioning of what the government was telling us about COVID caused. And this is where. Back to your point earlier, Wesley, this is what. This is what Biden and the Democrats did. Yeah. They insisted that the social media companies in particular ban anybody who disagreed with the CDC.
Wesley Wildmon Correct.
Tim Wildmon Or Dr. Fauci. Or the White House. line on.
Wesley Wildmon That's right.
Tim Wildmon On Covid.
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Tim Wildmon Right.
Wesley Wildmon I'm trying to think from the White House down. They did that, and they did so because Zuckerberg. Ed reminded us of this in the last segment, but Zuckerberg has now, officially admitted. Yeah, we covered this. M. Week of. But he officially admitted.
Tim Wildmon He said Biden. Biden administration wait on him. I mean, they. They like, pressured them. Pressured them.
Ed Vitagliano And by the way, now a. Okay, so this. This is A kind of a. It's a complex issue. Okay.
Tim Wildmon Which we can do here.
Ed Vitagliano Well, we can, we can handle this. Our, our IQ average. Just like Brent. Okay.
Wesley Wildmon 120.
Ed Vitagliano So here's three things that are critical to understanding this issue, folks. Ready?
Tim Wildmon Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano Three things.
Tim Wildmon Well, I'm gonna write them down. Go ahead.
Ed Vitagliano First, number one, a company has a First amendment right to, I'm speaking generally. To allow people, for example, YouTube, Facebook. To allow people to speak or not allow people to speak. Okay. It's a company that's number one. Number two, if the government behind the scenes pressures them to take away people's first amendment rights, that still counts as a violation of the First Amendment because the government.
Ed Vitagliano Is simply using YouTube to do its bidding to squelch people's free speech. And the third thing I will say that makes this complicated is some of these companies, including Google. Okay, Facebook maybe to a lesser extent, but certainly Google. Some of these companies are so big you can't exist in our culture without access to them. So they become more like platforms that allow free speech than just simple, than a simple private business. So we've talked about credit card companies.
Chris Woodward Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano Okay. Credit card companies have the right to say, well, if you make guns, we're not going to let you have one of our credit cards. Okay. Technically that is your right.
Ed Vitagliano But you, you can't. When things become so big and there's only three or four credit card companies out there, you are essentially ending the possibility of someone participating in the culture. You can't have, like the carriers for phones. Say we're, we're, we're, we're. We're a company. We're not letting you use the airwaves for the inner. You know, you can't use the Internet. All right? You are, you are keeping people from accessing normal life. And so it becomes kind of complicated.
Wesley Wildmon You're opening up new doors here. Our old doors, remember?
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Tim Wildmon Old wounds done his whole life.
Wesley Wildmon That's right. Opened up new doors.
Tim Wildmon All doors for meeting people.
Wesley Wildmon And when you were saying that, that reminds me, even for the. We talk, remember, we talk about conflating things. You got government versus privately owned. Here was the, here's the problem with the social media. And I can make a case during.
Tim Wildmon COVID what we're talking about here.
Wesley Wildmon Yes. During COVID I can make a case that even they were violating the law because they were, they were getting funds as if they were a, ah, plat. They were a platform versus a publisher.
Ed Vitagliano Publisher, right.
Wesley Wildmon Do you remember this argument.
Tim Wildmon Yeah.
Wesley Wildmon And so they were, they were, they were. If you're a publisher, you can correct things, you can change things, you can edit things, you can, you can refuse things.
The federal government pressured social media giants to censor, Joe Biden says
But when you're a platform, they were getting federal money for being a platform that I need, I need some MAGA here.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand.
Wesley Wildmon Yeah.
Tim Wildmon I don't disagree.
Ed Vitagliano Well, it's just, it's just like, like locally there is a company that you get your electricity from.
Ed Vitagliano Okay. sometimes these are tied to the local city government, but sometimes they're private utilities. Utilities, you can't say, well, we don't like American Family association, so no energy for you.
Wesley Wildmon Right.
Ed Vitagliano Okay. At some point these, companies become large enough that you have to access them or you can't participate.
Tim Wildmon Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano Society.
Tim Wildmon But the point is here that the, yeah. The federal government through, and the President, United States, his administration, Joe Biden, was pressuring the social media giants YouTube, Facebook and others to censor, do censoring on their behalf over Covid. I don't remember much about the election, results how that I don't remember.
Chris Woodward But basically talking about how Biden that got you banned. Pretty much.
Ed Vitagliano So anyway, any speculation, by the way, this is also why Elon Musk got so much hatred when he bought Twitter, because now the left couldn't control Twitter either.
Wesley Wildmon That's right.
Ed Vitagliano Okay. And that made them crazy.
Education Secretary Ryan Walters wants to put TPUSA chapters in Oklahoma schools
Wesley Wildmon Free speech, next story.
Tim Wildmon Chris?
Chris Woodward Well, since the passing of Charlie, Kirk, a number of legislators, federal, state and local, as well as bureaucrats have talked about efforts to try to honor the slain Christian and conservative activists. For example, on her radio program this morning, our Jenna Ellis discussed efforts in a county in Florida to rename a portion of a road or highway after Charlie Kirk. And it looks like they are going in that direction. Meanwhile, in Oklahoma, Education Secretary Ryan Walters wants to put TPUSA chapters in Oklahoma schools.
Walker Wildmon Clip 15 I'm excited to announce today that every Oklahoma high school will have a Turning Point USA chapter. We have seen the outpouring from parents, teachers and students that want to be engaged in the meaningful work going on at Turning Point. They want their young people to be engaged in a process that understands free speech, open engagement, dialogue about American greatness, a dialogue around American values. We're so excited to partner with Turning Point USA with this initiative. For far too long, we have seen radical leftists with the teachers union dominate classrooms and push woke indoctrination on our kids. They fight parents rights, they push parents out of the classroom and they lie to our kids about American history. What we're going to continue to do is make sure that our kids understand American greatness, engage in civic dialogue, and have that open discussion. We will continue to do all that we can to make sure Oklahoma students have the best education possible.
Tim Wildmon That was who.
Chris Woodward That was Education Secretary Ryan Walters of Oklahoma.
Tim Wildmon Yes, he's been here with us. Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano I'll tell you what's. What's interesting is I see more and more students now who are willing, I'm not so sure in, like, high school, but certainly in college campuses, but maybe in high school, too, high school classrooms who are willing to use their phones to catch their instructors saying bad things about the country and, promoting their own particular, you know, cultural, political beliefs. And so these instructors, are having to answer for it. And I'm, I'm glad that some of them are being exposed.
Chris Woodward Yeah. and it's not necessarily even, in recent years that professors have gone, woke or said crazy things in class. I remember 20 years ago when I was in college, I was in a mass media law class, to where we were supposed to be going over things, laws and regulations involving. Involving what you can say in print and in broadcast. And I remember someday, for just some random reason, our professor decided to take time out of mass media law class to share her $0.02 on why the Supreme Court should never overturn Roe v. Wade, saying that was 20 years ago. And I'm sure there was a lot of gobbledygook and nonsense from, like, the Berkeley professors back in the day and stuff like that, but you could never prove it. That's true. Yeah, we didn't have, back 20 years ago, we didn't have the smartphones like they do today. But to, your point, there's a number of organizations now, like Young America's Foundation, Campus Reform, they have tip lines where they ask students to record and send these things in. Parents Defending Education also has, something similar. And it's because of those efforts that we've actually had the stories and the sound bites from people, on these kinds of crazy things over the past couple of years on the show, which is now on YouTube. So, yeah.
There's a massive ideological rift between young men and young women
Tim Wildmon Next story. Chris.
Chris Woodward All right, there is, some research out there that finds, a lot more M. Men in America, particularly, 30 and under, say, men in America particularly.
Tim Wildmon Those are good.
Chris Woodward yeah, I kind of stumbled over. But anyway, okay, men under the age of 30 are putting off, marriage. And one of the reasons m might be the fact that they can't find people that, agree with them or align with them ideologically. For example, Fox had this story today, men are becoming more conservative, whereas women, according to some researchers, are becoming more liberal. And one lady weighing in on that is a conservative, ah, lady by the name of Kayleigh McGee White at Independent Women's Forum.
Chris Woodward Clip 16 part of the problem is there's a massive ideological rift right now between young men and young women. And this bears out in the data. Young men have been leaning more conservative for the past several years while young women are becoming more and more liberal. And this is reflected in the things that they value. There was a recent NBC survey that found that family and marriage were top priorities for young men, and they were dead last for young women. So until we start to bridge this gender gap, I fear that the dating scene is going to remain very difficult for gen zers.
Ed Vitagliano That's sad. I've been seeing stuff on social media, that kind of indicate that, but I thought it was anecdotal. She's saying the data is starting to prove this. Young men want to get married and have families. But that is dead last for a lot of young women. And I have been hearing about this political divide too, between young men and young women. And they are worlds apart. This is sad for the prospects of, you know, if you're, if you're trying to. Young men, if you're out there and you're trying to find, a fine young woman to marry, go to church, go m. To a Bible believing church and find someone there with hit on girls. Well, I'm saying at church, get involved and you're going to the Lord, you're going.
Tim Wildmon Good grief.
Ed Vitagliano Okay, well, you know, some people can do more than one thing at the same time. I met my wife at a Bible college. Tim.
Wesley Wildmon I think I feel like the odds are if you go to church.
Ed Vitagliano Thank you, Wesley.
Wesley Wildmon You're most likely to find someone who also believes in what the church is teaching.
Ed Vitagliano Yes. Yes, Very good. Thank you.
Chris Woodward Yeah. And there is, there has been a big uptick in interest in going to church and reading the Bible.
Wesley Wildmon So you can see that.
Tim Wildmon You can clarify that because that sounded bad. It said, hey, if you want to find a girl, man, go to church. I'll go the bar, go to church and you can hit on the girls there.
Ed Vitagliano I didn't say hit on, gentlemen.
Tim Wildmon All right. That was a crude way of saying, you know, stick them out. I find you a woman at the, at the, at the Sunday school class.
Wesley Wildmon Okay, let's play this. Okay. We'll do it the other way. Dad says to go to the bar.
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Wesley Wildmon Oh, no, no.
Tim Wildmon I did not say no to the bar.
Wesley Wildmon Okay, that just hurt.
Tim Wildmon I. I know Ed's heart.
Ed Vitagliano I bet you don't know what's in it.
Tim Wildmon Right now, it's 60. Good.
Wesley Wildmon That's funny.
Ed Vitagliano I just had cataract surgery. I'm not supposed to be laughing this much.
Tim Wildmon Okay.
Ed Vitagliano It's gonna pop out.
Tim Wildmon Anyway. Where were we?
Ed Vitagliano I don't know. You're not getting any help.
Tim Wildmon Oh, yeah.
Ed Vitagliano You're a drift on a, On a stormy ocean, and I'm watching you flail about. Go ahead.
Tim Wildmon We're out of time, and that's probably a good thing.
Chris Woodward Okay.
Tim Wildmon And we hope that you have a wonderful day, and we'll see you back here tomorrow.
Tim, Ed and Wesley talk with Chris on top news headlines including a discussion on how YouTube says they will reinstate accounts there were banned because of what they deemed COVID and 2020 election misinformation.
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