Today is Founders Day on American Family Radio Network

>> Jeff Chamblee: more than 45 years ago, brother Don Wildmon, with Linda by his side, heeded God's call and began this ministry on his dining room table. Since then, dedicated people and supporters have joined Don's efforts to bring godly values back to America. And the fight is far from over.

>> Don Wildmon: All God asks of you is faithfulness.

>> Jeff Chamblee: It's day two of Share A Thon and it's Founders Day. You can help honor brother Don's legacy with the Founders Day pledge. call 877-616-2396 or give [email protected] it's founders day on American Family Radio.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, good morning, everybody. welcome to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. It's Sharathon Spring share a thon 2026. I'm Tim Wildmon, and we'll be here for the next couple of hours. Again, as always, we appreciate you listening to afr. in studio, in Tupelo is Wesley Wyoma. Good morning, Wesley.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: And Ed Battagliano.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Hey, good morning, Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: Fred Jackson.

>> Fred Jackson: Howdy. Howdy.

>> Tim Wildmon: And I'm in, I'm at the FRC in, Washington D.C. the, we have a group up here. So I had reason to be up here and, you threw you through, gentlemen, back at, headquarters there. Ed, tell us how Sharathon's going.

American Family Radio has a Founders Day challenge to raise $75,000

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, it's going great. It is, Founders Day, which is, usually the middle day in our three day Share A Thon. And folks, if you've been listening for any length of time, you, know we have three days in the spring, three days in the fall. This is our fall Share a Thon. And the theme is love God, love people. And the verse, that I mentioned this yesterday, we have a team of, folks that actually in the lead up to a Share A Thon, will spend time praying and asking God to give them, some leading as to what the choice will be. And they picked Matthew 22, 37, 40. Very familiar passage to, I'm sure, all the Christian listeners Jesus is talking to the Pharisees. And it says, Jesus replied, love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is, like it, love your neighbor as yourself. All the law and prophets hang on these two commandments. So it is our Spring Share a Thon. Here's the number to call. We are asking you to be as generous us as possible in helping to support American Family Radio if you call this number you will reach Sheriffon Central which is just a number of yards down the hallway. We got real people. No A.I. no robots. Yeah, these are people who speak English. Yes, yes. and they are waiting to take your call, answer your questions and take your pledges. Here's the number to call. 877-616-2396. That's 877616, 2396. As always you can also give safely and securely [email protected] afr.net and you can go to afr.net and find other information about Charathon. This is Founders Day and so we have a $75,000 Founders Day challenge that started about nine minutes ago, 10am Central Time until 1pm Central Time. That means that money that had previously been sent in by those who are supporters has been set aside as a challenge. We're asking our listeners, especially during the two hour special two hour edition of today's Issues to help us meet that challenge of 75,000 doll dollars. So that goes until 1pm Central Time. Normally this show is an hour and a half, 90 minutes but during shareathon we're always at two hours.

>> Fred Jackson: So.

American Family Radio is on 166 stations in 30 different states

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, well so it's rocking and rolling there in Tupelo it is intended and share a thon is we're always excited about Sheriffon because we have a chance to hear back from our listeners. Radio, radio is often time a one way street but in the case of Charathon we get to hear from folks who are blessed by American family radio across the country. Wesley, how many stations and states are we on?

>> Wesley Wildmon: We are on 166 stations in about 30 different states. I think it was 29 to be exact. State ah as far as states go. So we're covering a lot of our country. obviously you know we are headquarters and we were founded in Tupelo, Mississippi. So all the surrounding southern states are pretty much cover state wall to state wall or from line to line. It's covered really well now we want to go in other places and so there was that moment where you're like okay, how much money do we invest with technology growing and terrestrial stations? So we mentioned yesterday and we mentioned often we have our AFR app which goes into all 50 states and, and worldwide. So we have people listening around the world because of our AFR app and our afr.net or Internet radio. So we continue to grow and looking forward to it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Absolutely. And we have good coverage in the Midwest, too, in Pennsylvania. And we have good cover. Well, have a few stations in Pennsylvania, but Ohio and Michigan and Iowa. We just bought a station in Des Moines. So that's a new AFR station in Des Moines. We've been on there a few months there. So we want to expand, folks. you know, the Bible talks about, expanding your territory, and so that's what we want to do. So with each donation you make, you help us reach more people with the good news of Christ and also telling them the truth about what's happening in our country so that we can make a difference. You know, Matthew, chapter five, Jesus says that we should be salt and light. We should be salt and light in our culture. And so that's what believers. That's what we're supposed to do. And so we want to encourage you in that, teaching of Jesus to be salt and light in your community. Let's hear from one of our wonderful, listeners, and then we'll come back and get, started with some of the news of the day.

>> Caroline: I have been listening to American Family Radio for many years, actually, since just, before Sandy Rios joined you. What a beautiful addition she was. Also, we have been monthly supporters of AFR since about 2012. Your station is such a beautiful mix. Biblically faithful, spiritual and personal encouragement, accurate exposition of current news and events, and a lot of warm humor sprinkled throughout. Listening to AFR is, for an oldie like me, a bit like coming home each day. And the welcome mat is clearly out for all, newcomers. Thank you all, for the faithful hard work you do daily at afr. You are much appreciated and much loved. Thank you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amen. What a blessing. Yeah, that's a. I could. Let's play that about seven times in a row. How about that, too?

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's encouraging, isn't it?

>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, it's just encouraging and edifying and.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. And seven's a good number.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. Yes, it is.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. That was awesome. We appreciate that, listener. I forgot. What did you say her name was?

>> Wesley Wildmon: that. I don't remember.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, then you know what we're gonna do? We're gonna play it again.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: We're gonna play it again because we can.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And because we can, hear who the listener is. Because the name escaped me. Go ahead.

>> Caroline: I have been listening to American Family for many years.

>> Tim Wildmon: No name, right?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Actually, no, that's. Yeah, we don't have a name, but it's a real person out. AI can promise you that. Yeah.

American Family Radio appreciates its listeners, supporters, so much

Hey, speaking about our Supporters. I've written an. I wrote an article that's in the print magazine for the. For April, and we have it also on our website and Brent's going to put it up on our Facebook page. I've had the privilege of traveling across the country for over 10 years, meeting and listening and praying with, and just getting to know, just fellowshiping and just getting to know our listeners, our supporters, tens of thousands of them. And I've concluded a couple of things, from my meetings with them over the years. I'll mention one of them, but then the other two, you got to go read the article. But I found three things. I'm going to tease it a little bit, but we're going to have this article up on our Facebook page. One of the things of the three that I learned over the years of meeting our supporters and just fellowshipping with them, getting to know them, is that our donors, our listeners, our supporters are very caring and willing to serve others. I've learned that over the years and just listening to them, being with them, they're very caring and willing to serve others. And then I explained that in a paragraph or two. And then I go on to two other things I've learned about our supporters. But we'll have that article up. I just, I wrote that this literally says the title of it is a word of Appreciation. I appreciate on behalf of staff leadership at AFA and everybody that, works at afa, I appreciate our listeners, our supporters, so much so that I wrote an article just for them.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and they're willing to love and serve others. That goes right along with the theme of our Share a thon, which is to, love God, love people and loving people, serving others. You're saying that's what our supporters are willing to do? This is the second great commandment.

>> Wesley Wildmon: it's that obvious to me.

>> Ed Vitagliano: What's that?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, I'm with them often.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So, folks, that is, our cue. I'm just going to remind you this is Share a Thon. We are going to get to some of the news of the day. but love God, love people. That's the theme of our shareathon. If you want to give to this ministry, to help keep this ministry on the air, I frequently say during Sherithons. You are listening to American Family, Family radio here on April 8th because six months ago, people gave during our fall Sharathon. So we're asking you to keep this ministry, rolling. And the number to call if you'd like to give is 877-616-2396. That's 8776-1623 now. Oh, yes. Call the subliminal. You see that? Hear that? Subliminal messaging. 877-6-16-2396. I was waiting for the subliminal voice.

Hey, exciting news too, Tim. Let me just. Fred's over there. You know, Fred's not a potted plant

Hey, exciting news too, Tim. Let me just. Just drop this in here. It is.

>> Tim Wildmon: Fred's over there. You know, Fred's not a potted plant.

>> Ed Vitagliano: No, he's not.

>> Tim Wildmon: He's here for a reason.

Culture Warrior Don Wildmon documentary available free at Culture Warrior Movie

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, this is our Founders Day, middle day of Sharathon. And I do want to let you know that we have an outstanding full length, outstanding, outstanding feature length documentary about brother Don Wildmon and the beginning, the founding of this ministry. The name of this, documentary is called Culture Warrior Don Wildmon and the Battle for Decency. It explores the founding of afa, many of the cultural and spiritual battles that marked the early days of the ministry. Outstanding documentary produced by our very own American Family Studios. You can watch that free. That's right. I said free right now at Culture Warrior Movie. Culture Warrior Movie. And folks, as you. If you watch that today, I, just want to let you know this is the kind of quality content that we produce here. God is, has blessed us with talented young men and women, especially young men and women who do this kind of thing. And this is impactful content. So go check that out. Cultural Warrior, is the name of the movie produced by American Family Studios. You can watch it for free. I said for free. At Culture Warrior Movie.

American Family Radio relies on financial support from its listeners to broadcast

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. You're listening to Sharathan on American Family Radio. Love God, love people is our theme for this Sharathon. Here's the phone number. Would you please call and make a gift and be as generous as you can. We have to have financial support from our listeners or we're not able to broadcast. That's as simple as. It's as simple as that. We don't. They don't have a billionaire underwriting us. you know, Bill Gates doesn't, you know, he doesn't.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Elon Musk.

>> Tim Wildmon: Elon Musk. I like what Elon Musk does a lot of the times, but no, no, there's nothing like that. and there's no government money. And we wouldn't take it if they offered it. So we're kind of like Hillsdale College, you know, they don't take government money because with government money comes strings attached to.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: So, of course we wouldn't accept that anyway. Not that it would be offered. But what I'm saying is our Financial, backbone is, you know, $30 a month, $50 a month, whatever, $100 a month. Some people do that. So whatever you can do monthly that would really, really help us budget. So when you call to make a gift, if you can make it, reoccurring, you know, with a credit card, debit card or bank, you know, bank number, whatever that you can do to help us out so that we can budget, we can know what's coming in each month here at American Family Radio. That would be very, very helpful.

There is a lot of confusion over what's contained in the Iran ceasefire agreement

All right, you're listening to Share a Thon. Fred, what's the first news story?

>> Fred Jackson: Well, 24 hours ago, the world was waiting to see if, President Trump's threat would come about. Because 24 hours ago he had set a deadline for 7 o' clock central last night, for Iran basically to put down his arms and, and capitulate, to what the United States was demanding, or else he was going to bomb all of their power plants. And, also, he was going to go after their bridges. He was going to knock out every bridge. Now, what the Iranians did all day yesterday, perhaps you've seen some of the videos, they lined up citizens on their bridges and around their power plants, women with children in their arm, basically telling President Trump, go ahead, and the world will see body bags everywhere. And what you've done. Well, what happened last night, a short time before that 7:00 clock deadline, a ceasefire was announced and, the world is responding to that. Stock, markets love it this morning. Price of oil has gone down, Approaching now about 90 bucks a barrel. However, however, there is a lot of confusion over what's contained in this ceasefire agreement. Part of the confusion is that the Iranians released their version in Farsi. And in Farsi, they say, where is that? What is that? That's the language that is used.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, the language, yes, in Farsi. I thought maybe they. In Paris or London or somewhere like that.

>> Fred Jackson: No, no, Farsi.

>> Tim Wildmon: I didn't know.

>> Fred Jackson: In their language, in their, release of the ceasefire, in their language, they say the deal is that, the, United States has agreed to acceptance of enrichment of the uranium. Well, you're kidding. No, no, no kidding, right? No, that's what the Farsi version says. the English version does not say that. Also, there is a dispute this morning with regards to the Strait of Hormuz. the Strait of Hormuz as of this moment, there was supposed to be freedom of passage that the oil tankers were Supposed to be able to start running through the Strait of Hormuz as part of, this ceasefire. However, that is not happening. Iranians are demanding that every ship get their permission. And, the military, they say their military is still controlling. Also, part of the plan is, apparently the Iranian plan is they want money from each of these oil tanker companies before those oil tankers can pass through. So that is what we're hearing now. Pete Hexseth, our Secretary of War, gave a briefing this morning and he had a slightly different take on this ceasefire cut.

>> Steve Hilton: Number two, President Trump had the power to cripple Iran's entire economy in minutes, but he chose mercy. He spared those targets. Because Iran accepted the ceasefire under overwhelming pressure. The new Iranian regime understood that a deal was far better than the fate that awaited them. This new regime just happened to look at what happened to their predecessors. Their top leadership was systematically eliminated. The previous Iranian Supreme Leader to include the new so called new supreme leader, wounded and disfigured. This new regime was out of options and out of time. So they cut a deal. They know this agreement means that they will never, ever possess a nuclear weapon.

>> Fred Jackson: All right, that was our Secretary of War, Pete Heg said, back a couple of hours ago. Now, to add to, somewhat to the confusion, we reached out. One of our editors here at American Family News reached out to the White House this morning for a statement on this. Here's the statement that came back from the White House. The document being reported by media outlets is not the working framework. We're not going to negotiate in public out of respect for the process, end quote. What that means, I'm not sure, but there are negotiations going on. But right now, I would say things are very tentative. Pete Hexseth went on to say in his briefing this morning, at a moment's notice, we can resume the fighting. we're not taking our resources away from the arena at all. Also, you will likely see today that part of this agreement, does not include Israel going after Hezbollah and Lebanon. That part of the war is continuing.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, first of all, I would say that it's, it's a, it's a good thing. Despite the confusion, it is a good thing that the world did not see videos of bridges exploding and women and children's bodies flying through the air and dismembered. That, you know, or at power stations. That would have been, a, horrifying, sight for anybody with any compassion at all. so the fact that the President has gotten a ceasefire agreement, and some Stoppage. that's a good thing. I never thought it was a good thing for the president to have told in advance where we were planning on bombing, because the Iranians did. The only thing they could do, they couldn't stop the bombing was to make it politically very costly for the president to have ordered those kinds of strikes. So from their side, I think Iran did the only thing they could to try to put pressure of their own on the Trump administration and the president. The president. but it is a good thing that we've gotten the stoppage and did not have to do that. My own personal opinion is I am very pessimistic that the Iranians are going to do anything, really to, make President Trump happy. I'm not sure what that means in terms of the war going forward, but, Wesley, I certainly don't trust the Iranians, those running it anyway, to make a promise and keep their word or whatever were expecting.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, their strategy of being willing to put their women and their children in this is, this is not new. They, they, you know, they hide a lot of their military equipment under schools, you know, mosque or whatever. And so this is a strategy of theirs. But we have to remember that's the evilness that we're up against, is that they're willing to put their. As opposed to the United States, the opposite. Who's willing to, and put hundreds or millions of dollars on the line to rescue one soldier.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's the opposite here. So, yeah, I'm with you. I'm very pessimistic. In fact, I'll add one criticism here. I have no clue why we told them what we were going to do. It almost would have. Nobody really would have thought too much about it. If we woke up one day and a couple bridges were taken out. Right now, by saying in advance and building up, there's a lot more discussion and commentary on either side and people having strong opinions than doing the hypotheticals of what else, all that. But if you just. If we did just woke up the next day and two bridges were out, I don't think it would have been that big of a deal. But then that gave them time to rally and put the m. Women and children and then. And now also to. Not to open up an old wound. But just a couple of days ago, the post that Trump said, that was pretty bizarre. That didn't help.

>> Ed Vitagliano: On Easter.

>> Wesley Wildmon: On Easter. That didn't help the situation either, but

>> Ed Vitagliano: about ending the civilization.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.

There's negotiations going on between the United States and Iran on Friday

So you got, you got some issues here.

>> Tim Wildmon: Trump's generally pretty. Pretty bland and, you know, just nondescript, you know what I'm saying? if he. He had more colorful language, I think he'd be,

>> Ed Vitagliano: It a bit hard to be more colorful than.

>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, you know, President Trump said he. We're going to. We can end their civilization and they would never be able to recover again. these kinds of things that he was talking about. But then he also talked about where they were going to bomb. Yeah, I think that's what you guys are saying. Why do you say something like that out loud to the world?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, to a group that's going to put m. What we all know is going to put women and children there. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. I don't know. We'll see. Two. Two weeks cease fire. Is that what it is, Fred?

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. two weeks cease fire. There's negotiations apparent United States and Iran. delegates. Delegations will meet in Pakistan on Friday. that's what we're told.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And they have been meeting in Pakistan, right? yes.

>> Fred Jackson: These will be more formal talks on

>> Tim Wildmon: Friday, in my opinion. Unless you change their religion, you're not

>> Wesley Wildmon: going to change those people, which is why you bought. You bomb the military and get out.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah. You're not. You're not going to be able, I don't think, to whack enough moles.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: In Iran to make them change their regime. their regime is a totalitarian regime ruled by other, religious leaders and they control the police. And they will hang you publicly if you are caught to be, insubordination, of their, edicts and their, you know, their commands. So. And we've seen that. And they've killed thousands and thousands of their own people. And they don't mind doing that if they get out of line. So how they'll have. How they'll have a revolt in their own country.

Don Wildman: Parents of wounded sailor ask for permission to bring him home

>> Don Wildmon: it's my turn.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Here is your host for my turn, Don Wildmon.

>> Don Wildmon: Paul once wrote to the Christians at Corinth these words, love is patient and kind. I ran across a story in my reading once which I wish to pass along to you. I think it has something of a moral in it. Back during the Second World War, the parents of a sailor went for several weeks without hearing anything from their son. Finally, they gave up on their son and considered him a war victim. However, near the end of the war, the parents who lived in NewSong Jersey received a phone call from someone in San Diego. After a moment on the phone, the parents recognized the voice as that of their son. He was alive. During the course of the conversation, the son explained to his parents that for the past several months he'd found it difficult to write because he'd been taking care of a war victim. He told them that the person had been wounded in the war and had lost a leg, an arm, an eye and part of his face. His parents expressed concern over the poor sailor and then bragged on their son for taking care of him during all those months. The boy then asked his parents for permission to bring the wounded sailor home to live with them. He explained that the boy didn't have another home nor anyone else to care for him. His parents expressed their concern for the wounded sailor and also told their son they thought it was a very noble thing for him to want to bring the sailor home. But after some conversation, the parents expressed their desire to their son that he not bring the boy home with him. They simply didn't want the job of taking care of such a battle scarred sailor. Their son said that he understood their feelings and said that he would not bring the boy home. Expressing his love for the parents. The sailor hung up. You know, I guess it's hard to fulfill such a request as the sailor son made for Most of us don't want a disfigured person around the house, do we? None of us like to look at ugly things and most of us judge a person's beauty by their physical appearance. We appreciate the good that those who are disfigured have done, but we rather just not have to be burdened with them around the house. Many times we feel sorry for the physically handicapped. So we give some little something that requires no effort on our part and does them little good. But I think what the handicapped person wants more than anything else is to be treated like a human being. The morning after they spoke with their son, the couple in NewSong Jersey received a telegram from the naval officials stating that their son had jumped from a window to his death. The parents couldn't understand why their son had reacted so to their request until the body arrived and the casket was opened. Their son had only one arm, one leg, one eye and a badly disfigured face. Maybe we should try a little harder to love those who want to be treated like a human being.

>> Ed Vitagliano: This has been my Turn with Don Wildmon. A production of the American Family Association.

>> Jeff Chamblee: It's Founders Day on American Family Radio and we're honoring the legacy of brother Don Wildmon.

>> Don Wildmon: This is God where God did.

>> Jeff Chamblee: You can help us honor brother Don's faithfulness and continue his ministry with your support. Call 877-616-2396 to make your pledge or give [email protected] it's founders day on American Family Radio.

American Family Radio needs your help with a $75,000 challenge

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Founders Day on American Family radio. It's Sharathon 2026, spring 2026. We have these twice a year. We have Sharathon in the spring and in the fall, six days total that we, pass the offering plate and ask you to make a gift so that we can stay on the air. We can continue to grow as a ministry and reach. Reach, many, many, many, many more people, like you, we, we want to reach more people. We want to expand our territory. We don't want to impact our country for Christ and for patriotism and for, truth. we want to, do those things here at American Family Radio. And you help us. If you can make a gift, here's the. I'm gonna give you the phone number, and then please call and be as generous as you can. We have a $75,000 challenge going on until when, Ed?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, until 1:00 clock central time. So for the next year, two and

>> Tim Wildmon: a half hours, you can give and help us meet this match or this, challenge, if you want to call it that. Although we're all challenged, Aren't we people or another.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Some degree.

>> Tim Wildmon: to some degree or another, we're all challenged.

>> Wesley Wildmon: We'd like to hear your challeng challenges. We'd like to hear your challenges. Just share with the class here.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, putting can sometimes be a challenge. I'm just kidding. Hey, we all face our challenges. That. Get up every day and you commit today to the Lord.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Amen.

>> Tim Wildmon: And try. You know that people say one step at a time. Well, it's one day at a time, right? For us.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: We try to live out, our faith each day in ways that God opens up to us. How about that answer, Wesley?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Amen. Hey, Speaking this morning in devotion, we talked about, picking up our cross daily and following the Lord.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amen. Amen. Absolutely. That's what the Bible says. So here's the phone number to call, and you say, when you call this number, please call and make a gift and be as generous as you possibly can. For those who've already called yesterday and this morning, and you sent your commitment in, pledge in, you know, prior to Sharathan, starting in the mail, whatever they are, you sent yours over the Internet, Whatever the case may be, we just say thank you so much for your gift and your generosity to American Family Radio. It helps us continue to go and to grow. Here's the phone number. Okay? This is the phone number and you'll call and you'll talk to one of our staff or you'll talk to one of our volunteers who are helping us answer the phone. They've, they're listeners just like you and they've driven to Tupelo to help answer the phone during our share a thon. So you may talk to one of those folks. Here's the phone number. 877-616-2396. I'll give it slowly. 877-616-23 96. Now if you're the kind of person that doesn't want to talk to people, then here's the, here's the website. Afr.net afr.net it's easy to give their. Afr.net you don't have to talk to anybody. you don't have to try to figure out somebody's accent, their personality so they're having a good or bad day. You can just do it on a machine. Afr.net and it is love God, love people. Where does that come from, Ed?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, it comes from Matthew 22, verses 37 through 40. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it, love your neighbor as yourself. All the law and prophets hang on these two commandments. by the way folks, as Tim's been saying, this is shareathon. We do have a couple of premiums that it's just kind of a little thank you if you give a certain amount. And so for a one time gift, one time gift of $150 or more, you will receive a five pack of the 250th Anniversary Pocket Constitution from American Family Association. I'm holding it up if you're watching online. It's a lovely, dark blue and gold, design. It has the Declaration of Independence in it as well and a Forward by Steven McDowell. And so you get a five pack, a five pack so that you can keep one, read it when you have, time and then give others away to other people. Let's try to increase the amount of constitutional knowledge that people have because there are a lot of people who are ignorant of our founding documents. Now if you become a great commission partner with a monthly gift of $30 or more, you'll not only receive the five pack of the pocket constitution, but another five pack? Yes, another five pack. And this will be the 250th, anniversary in God We Trust wristbands. And that comes in a five pack. So you can do the same thing. You can wear one if someone remarks about how they like it. You can give other wristbands out to folks. So that's our spring share a thon 2026 premiums. And the number to call to give is 8776-1623-9687-7616-2396. Or as Tim mentioned, you can give online safely and [email protected] all right, let's

>> Tim Wildmon: hear from one of our listeners.

American Family Radio is growing with the message of our risen Savior Jesus Christ

>> Caroline: This is Margaret from Mountain Home Arkansas. And I'm just calling in to let everybody know that Don, brother Don Wildmon and his wife started AFA Radio is one of a kind. Hallelujah. And still growing with the message of our risen Savior Jesus Christ, our Messiah and soon coming King. And hallelujah again. Stay tuned because it's, it's a wonderful radio station that will lead you to Jesus if you don't know the Savior. God bless.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amen. What a blessing that is. Thank you. Absolutely. We you know, we want to exalt the name of Jesus Christ here on American Family Radio and everything we communicate. And I appreciate their sister there acknowledging that. And she was. Go ahead, Wesley.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And they have the opportunity, those listening, if you have not already, you can call and give a financial gift to help us continue the work that we're doing and to have more listener testimonies like you just heard by calling in at 877-616-2396 or go to afr.net Sherithon rolls on here.

President Trump is upset with NATO over the war with Iran

>> Tim Wildmon: This is day two. We've got three days of charathon. So yesterday, today and tomorrow. Fred, next story.

>> Fred Jackson: All right. In connection with the Iran US war, as we talked about a ceasefire, part of the results of that war has been a lot of tension between the United States and NATO countries. President Trump has made it very clear, very open about his being very angry with NATO countries for not coming in to help out. One of his hopes was perhaps they could come in and help out getting oil tankers through the Strait of Hormuz. But you have Prime Minister Starma of the UK and Macron of France saying it's not our war, we don't want anything to do with this. so all of that to say there could be a little bit of tension today when the NATO Secretary General Mark Ryt meets with President Trump at the White House. so we'll have to wait and see. Mark Dubovitz, the CEO of Foundations for the Defense of Democracies, says Trump and Ruti are good friends. However, cut number five.

>> Steve Hilton: Yeah, meeting between two very good friends. But I think the President is right to be very disappointed with NATO and its lack of, of contribution to this effort. I mean, we discovered in this war we do have very strong allies, Israel, the uae, Saudi Arabia and Ukraine. But unfortunately most European leaders were not there for us and were critical, and certainly we're not contributing much now.

>> Fred Jackson: President Trump has even threatened to say we might just withdraw from NATO. What are they doing for us?

>> Tim Wildmon: Can he just do that unilaterally?

>> Fred Jackson: No, concert treaty, I think Congress and they renewed that treaty in 2023, I believe.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I don't think he can, now he can, he can pull, troops out. I think as commander in chief, he could close down bases, he could pull, bring troops home. A lot of our pre positioned equipment, he could probably bring all that home. But we would still be obligated under the treaty to come to the defense of NATO were one of those countries attacked or all of attacked. But I don't think he can unilaterally say we're getting out of NATO.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, let me ask you this, Ed. I want to play, I'm not, I'm not saying devil's advocate here on Christian radio, so we don't want to do that. But I want to ask you, I'm going to, I'm going to give an alternative viewpoint and then ask you to respond. And as always, people, just because I ask a question doesn't mean I agree with my own premise. Okay, so, but, but we need to ask questions. I don't know why I said it like that. That was very, well, very. Yeah, I was being a little bit of a smart aleck. But what I'm saying, and I didn't mean to be, what I'm saying is just because I ask a question doesn't mean I agree with my, what I'm asking. Okay. Folks need to understand that. Here's what I'm going to ask you, Ed. So when President Trump is upset with NATO over the war in with Iran between the US And Israel, I thought NATO was created to, What was NATO? What is NATO? a organization that would be involved in our war with taking Maduro in Venezuela or going to war with Iran. I mean, what's their starter?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, yeah, as originally formed NATO, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization was formed, as a counterweight to the Soviet Union and the countries the Soviet Union kept after World War II, which became known as the Warsaw Pact. So all these countries, like Hungary and Romania, so on and so forth, that were aligned with the Soviet Union, not by the choice of their people, but because the Soviet Union kept them after, World War II. So NATO, US versus USSR NATO lined up against the Warsaw Pact. And the promise was if one nation in NATO is attacked by members of the Warsaw Pact, everyone else jumps in, and that those two, behemoths, military behemoths, faced off all during the Cold War. And thank the Lord that we didn't have.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, but there's no. There's no more Soviet Union. So what's. What's NATO? And that's what NATO's charter, charter was.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: So how do they factor in our military efforts around the world then.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Then after the collapse of the Soviet Union, NATO, its role kind of morphed into one in which, when those countries felt it was in their interest to align with the U.S. for example, in the first Gulf War or even in the Iraq War, NATO countries helped the U.S. so its original, purpose morphed into something of a Western military organization. But now what we're seeing, again, experts might disagree on this, but now what we're seeing is that these countries are saying to President Trump, just because the US Picks a fight, and I say that as probably from their perspective, Iran has been at war with us, really, since 1979. But just because the US picks a fight with Iran doesn't mean we have to. As. As NATO, we're not forced, we're not obligated to join in that fight.

>> Tim Wildmon: But Trump says you are.

>> Ed Vitagliano: He's saying, I think you should because we've been defending you by spending the most money of any NATO country.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Even close.

>> Ed Vitagliano: We've been. Yeah, we've been defending you all this time. So we. We'd like a little bit of, you got to. You got to have our back, if we've had your back. I think that's his thinking.

>> Wesley Wildmon: and where is he asking for

>> Ed Vitagliano: the most help at in keeping open the straits? You remember when Japan, when the prime minister of Japan was visiting, and he's asking, you know, hey, listen, we want your help, with naval support in keeping the strait open. And that's when he made the comment about, you know, surprise. Nobody knows more about surprising. But Japan, in defense of Japan, they don't really have the kind of navy that can leave Japanese waters and sail.

>> Tim Wildmon: Neither does Belgium.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I mean, no, that's fair.

>> Tim Wildmon: M. I mean, I don't know how the capability, maybe Great Britain, maybe France, maybe another couple of countries, in, you know, Germany maybe would have something that could be, seen as. But I think what President Trump. I know what he's. He's saying, hey, you gotta, you know, you need to back us on this effort against Iran. And if you don't, you know what?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I think part of the problem is for these European countries is they have let so many Muslims in over the last couple of decades, they have to be very careful about going to war against Muslim. Giving the appearance that we're going to war against a Muslim country and then igniting problems in their. Inside their own borders.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. M. Maybe true.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. And so, you know, it's got to enter into it.

We need God to intervene to bring peace and stability to Iran, Wesley says

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, you're listening to Share a Thon on American Family Radio. We are not going to be able to solve this problem. Okay. We do need to pray about it. I'm talking about this problem. I mean, this potential war. Well, we are at war with Iran, but, the resolution I'm talking about, we need God to intervene, really, to, bring peace and stability. And by peace, I mean the ending if we can. nuclear, weapons being built by this Iranian Islamic regime. That's the whole reason we went to war with them in the first place, is because they wouldn't commit to not building the nuclear weapons. And the nuclear weapons could wipe out millions of people around the world if Iran were to obtain them and they were to use them. And they do have an apocalyptic view of, they're not like the Chinese, right? Or, you know, they're not like other people around the world that you can, you can reason with. you can rationalize that, think rationally. They don't. They don't necessarily think that they have their eye on their religion and what their religion teaches them about the end of the world and, the killing infidel and all those things. So we will see what happens because it's a very dicey situation we all know right now in, in that part of the world. You are listening to Share a Thon on American Family Radio. Go ahead, Wesley. What are you going to say?

>> Wesley Wildmon: I was just going to add to. When you mentioned about prayer, we really, in this time, you know, it's easier when things are going smooth to say, hey, we need to pray for a president. You know, elections coming up, blah, blah, or who our next president. But really we do need to be praying for the Trump administration and not just, but Trump and his administration. Those there's a lot of people that's making a lot of decisions and they have, they're considering a lot of things. The you know, the safety of Americans, they're considering the just a lot of factors and so praying that they make good decisions, you know, without using a bunch of different fancy words, that they make good decisions in the best interest of the American people that in many of these places were elected in office.

>> Tim Wildmon: So yeah, absolutely. Let's hear from one of our fine listeners out there across the good old US of A. And then we'll be back in a minute.

>> Caroline: I love to listen to AFR early in the morning, when I'm on my way to do things I tune in and so inspired by the word that's given and the music and also enjoy listening to Alex McFarlane and Bert Harper along with many others. And I just want to thank you for continuing to inspire us as Christians in these times. Grateful for it.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Amen.

American Family Radio has a $75,000 challenge today

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>> Wesley Wildmon: we just did that pick on you. We knew you were going to ask

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>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes, I will. And yes, that's right, a $75,000 challenge. It began at 10:00am Central Time. And we'll go through, go all the way up until 1pm Central Time. You can call in and give your gift, your generous gift of any amount. 877-61623. That's 877-616-2396. And just a couple years back we began Wednesday as a Founders Day. So today is Founders Day, which is why we get the Founder's Day challenge. You can also go online and give it afr.net that's afr.net alright Fred, next story.

Homeland Security has a new secretary, Mark Wayne Mullen

>> Fred Jackson: Well, a story that's kind of been moved off the front pages over the last couple of weeks, especially the shutdown department, Homeland Security.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh yeah, about that.

>> Fred Jackson: That is continuing folks. And of course that department, has a new secretary, Mark Wayne Mullin. I was listening to an interview with him the other day and of course, you know, he was talking about sanctuary cities. They don't like ice. And of course, customs and immigration follows under Department of Homeland Security. And he kind of just floated an idea out there. He says, well, maybe if the sanctuary cities don't care about illegal immigrants and upholding our laws with regards to immigration, maybe, we should think, about removing customs and immigration from sanctuary cities. Chicago is a sanctuary city. Imagine what would happen at o' Hare Airport if you don't have Customs and immigration people there anymore.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, I'm confused. What would that mean?

>> Fred Jackson: You, can't land international flights.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh.

>> Fred Jackson: So think Chicago o'.

>> Caroline: Hare.

>> Fred Jackson: Think Minnesota. Think, JFK in NewSong York. if you don't have customs and immigration, folks, that airplane cannot land.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Wow. listen, that's a real possibility. That. That is. That's a wonderful idea. It's as good as the. The governors, like Ron DeSantis and others under the Biden administration who said, hey, guess what? When we find illegal immigrants, we're shipping them to your city and your state, that, in other words, there are consequences to this pie in the sky view you have about being a sanctuary city. my. My take is that you'd have governors and mayors who wouldn't care about the, the consequences to their own people, because they certainly don't seem to care about letting illegal immigrants, some of whom are. Are violent criminals roaming the streets. They don't seem to care about what happens to their own people. No, but it certainly would, ramp up the political pressure on the.

>> Tim Wildmon: What do you mean? Let's take Illinois, for example, Fred. The sanctuary city, Chicago. I guess it's a sanctuary state.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: okay, but what, by the way, what do we mean by sanctuary for those who don't know? Sanctuary?

>> Fred Jackson: well, if you're an illegal immigrant, you're welcome here. We'll give you housing, we'll give you free food, medical care, and we won't

>> Ed Vitagliano: cooperate with the federal government in removing you.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So that's. That's what sanctuary means. They're basically. They're saying, to the federal government that we're not going to help you deport these people.

>> Fred Jackson: Yep.

>> Tim Wildmon: even if they're criminals, we don't care.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: We're not. We're not assisting you. We're not helping you, do that. And so that's the approach that they've taken. Thus, sanctuary. Thus, they're really thwarting federal law. Obviously, they're saying, we're. That's a federal law. We're not Going to agree with. So. And we're not going to help to help our. Help you to enforce. No cooperation there. So. So they're saying here, what, that, Mark Wayne,

>> Fred Jackson: Mullens.

>> Tim Wildmon: Mullin.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Mullins, who is the new department. She took Christy Nom's place.

>> Fred Jackson: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: And he said that it may be that Lexington stick with the Chicago, Illinois, example. That he would say that the federal government could stop ice, could keep ICE out of o' Hare or Midway airports, and they would, by law, have to

>> Fred Jackson: shut down, well, customs and immigration. If he decided. You want to play that game, we're going to remove customs and immigration, then planes coming into the United States from overseas could not land at those airports.

>> Tim Wildmon: Why shouldn't they?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Because. Because you have to go through customs.

>> Fred Jackson: You got to go through customs and immigration when you fly into.

>> Tim Wildmon: What if they just say, we're. We're making that part of our sanctuary. We don't care if they go through customs.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, now, that would be actually the airlines.

>> Fred Jackson: The airlines, yeah. Cancel.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's not.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Again, to that point.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's not against the law for a city or a state to say, we're not calling ice. If we. If we arrest somebody and find out they're here illegally. It's not against the law for them to say, we're not calling ice.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. That is what.

Sheriff: It's not the airline's responsibility to enforce federal law

That has been a Cooper Cooperative arrangement between cities and states and the federal government. We arrested this person for bank robbery. We found out they're illegal. You might want to come pick them up. So it doesn't break a law for the city or the state to say, well, we're not cooperating with the federal government. It does break the law. Federal law. If an airline says, we're going to land at, o' Hare in Chicago, even though there's no customs, officials there, and these people have flown in from outside the country. That is. And airlines wouldn't do that, I wouldn't guess.

>> Fred Jackson: No. No.

>> Tim Wildmon: okay, well, I'm not so sure about that. I'm not so sure about that. I mean, it's not the airline's responsibility to enforce federal law either, but they're

>> Ed Vitagliano: not allowed to come from outside the country with people and land at an airport that doesn't have. Yeah, because they would be. They would be fined into oblivion.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: By the federal government.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, listen, you know that he may do that, if he has authority to. I'm talking about the chaos.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, the chaos. Those are huge airports. Can you imagine if they were having to fly somewhere else.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Somebody's attention.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. No, I think. Ed. I think. I think they would. I think the. That would get the attention of the governors and the mayors. I don't know what would be the resolution, but I think they would because that's a lot of business, commerce, and that's a lot of their. That's a lot of their citizens who are, going to be denied entry into, into their. One of the main.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It might give. It might give those mayors and governors a little political cover too, too. For all the people who are saying, well, we got us. We got. We hate ice. For the. For a governor, Governor Pritzker of Illinois to say, listen, we got no choice. there's no customs enforcement in Chicago. Airports. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe that would be a good idea.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, well, we're going to take a break right here again, people. We can't solve this problem, but we're just keep talking about it. But we, we do pray for those who are in places of decision, that can make a difference, for the best of our country. We got to take a short time out for news and information and, we will be back with more of Sheriff on American Family Radio.

Tim, Ed and Wesley talk with Fred on top news headlines of the day including a discussion on the ceasefire deal.