What is the difference between moseying and sauntering
>> Fred Jackson: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Ed Battagliano.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And welcome back to Today's Issues. Ed Battagliano sitting in for Tim Wildmon today. I'm joined in studio by Fred Jackson. And now, as he usually does, Steve Jordal. Mosey's on in.
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm moseyed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Steve Jordal, you asked me. You were listening to the program last hour, you said, so am I moseying?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yamoi. What is. I keep thinking of a. Of a cowboy, like, you know, like, on a road.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. Gonna just mosey on over to the general store.
>> Steve Jordahl: Who was the. The cowboy. The singing cowboy?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, Gene Autry.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Or Roy.
>> Steve Jordahl: Roger Rogers. Yeah. Rogers. Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm not sure what the difference is between moseying and sauntering. Those two. Those always seem to, you know, a cowboy would saunter into the saloon.
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm gonna ask Chat. GPT.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. What's the difference between moseying?
>> Steve Jordahl: What is the difference between moseying and sauntering?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, brother. ChatGPT.
>> Steve Jordahl: And it says. It's thinking about it for a second here.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm sure it is. It's probably thinking, who in the world asks a question like that?
>> Steve Jordahl: It's just not giving me an answer at all.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Wow.
>> Fred Jackson: You stumped.
>> Steve Jordahl: I might.
>> Fred Jackson: You stumped.
>> Steve Jordahl: I might have stumped it. Or else it just doesn't like me. Today. One of the two. Yeah, sure. It's weird. I've always. All right, well, if it comes up, I will.
>> Ed Vitagliano: There you go, folks. That's something for you to check on. You know, we. We try to bring as much, education as possible on this show, not just on Trivia Friday, but, so see if someone.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, we got an answer.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, what's. What's the difference?
>> Steve Jordahl: Mosing and sauntering are very similar. They're both described walking in a slow, relaxed way, but they carry slightly different vibes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, brother.
>> Steve Jordahl: Mosing is more ca. Casual, laid back, even a little aimless. Often suggests no hurry at all. Maybe wandering without a clear destination. Sauntering, still slow and relaxed, but a bit more deliberate. And some stylish. Somewhat stylish can imply confidence or a carefree attitude.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's a bunch of bunk.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You know what? I'm ashamed that we asked AI.
>> Steve Jordahl: And then, as usual, AI gives you an option to continue the discussion because they want to keep you there. It says, if you want, I can give you a few more similar words like amble or stroll or meander.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Amble, stroller, meander. Wow. I hope we never get to the place where we just ask AI a question and then just go, okay, we've
>> Steve Jordahl: given up on life, right? Yeah. He's gonna roll.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Absolutely everything. All right, let's get back to something serious.
Jeff Merkley says threats to attack Iran's infrastructure would be war crimes
>> Steve Jordahl: All right. Hey, a little bit of breaking kind of news, kind of breaking news. So I know you guys earlier talked about President Trump's tweets and a little unhinged nature of one of his latest ones and everything. Well, Oregon Senator Jeff Merkley has weighed in on this and I bring this
>> Ed Vitagliano: up, I'm guessing he's a Democrat.
>> Steve Jordahl: He's a Democrat. And he said that President Trump's profanity laden Easter threat to attack Iran's civilian infrastructure, power plants and bridges are the words of a frustrated and immoral madman. Many experts, he doesn't give example of one of these, but agree that such attacks would be war crimes under international law, if there is such a thing. To our military leaders, remember this, you are legally required to refuse orders to commit war crimes. So he's joining the list of, of, Well, I don't know if he's a former service member, but he's, Remember
>> Fred Jackson: the six or so? Yeah. We talked about Mark Kelly being part of that group.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, listen, I, I, I try not to be, I know this is going to sound ludicrous. I try not to be as partisan as I could be, at times like this. But first of all, the Democratic Party, with a few exceptions, Josh Shapiro every once in a while, but John Fetterman and some others, Kyrsten, Sinema, when she was in office, not all the Democrats are like this, but by
>> Steve Jordahl: and large, Christine was a Democrat.
>> Steve Jordahl: Kristi Noem was a Democrat, wasn't she? Who was the senator from. The congresswoman from Hawaii that,
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, you're talking about. Oh, good grief.
>> Steve Jordahl: She ended up being a,
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, she's Trump. Yeah. Anyway, national intelligence. Tulsi Gabbard.
>> Steve Jordahl: Tulsi Gabbard. There you go. That's what I was trying to say.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I got up very early this morning. I've not had a good day.
>> Steve Jordahl: I could ask AI.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, you could. Tulsi Gabbard. yes, there are common sense, more moderate kinds of Democrats, but someone like that, from a deeply blue state, far left coast, I don't trust anything they say. It's all for the political. They're not, they're not going to apply the same Republicans can be guilty of this as well. They're not going to apply the same standard to their guy or their gal. and so what do you, what do you expect a far left Democrat to say? Now the question about war crimes I think is a serious discussion to have. I'm not sure what the Geneva Convention and I don't know whether the Geneva Convention applies only to an actual declared war. but if you start, I mean if you were to target a hospital in order to kill civilians, that would be clearly a war crime. I'm not sure about infrastructure. I'll have to have. Have somebody on who is more of an expert in that maybe have.
Danny Danone says if Iraq, Iran target civilian targets, Israel can retaliate
>> Steve Jordahl: Interesting you say this, and I hadn't planned on playing this, but Danny Danone, the Israeli UN Ambassador, Ambassador to the US I'm sorry, Danny Danone was talking about the war and I wanted to play. Let, me play you this. Clip four. It's here. He talks. Actually, if I'm understanding this correctly, he's saying that if Iraq, Iran targets civilian, targets, that they have the right to target civilian targets in response. I don't know if that's the case, but listen to this. Tell me if I'm getting this right. Cut 4.
>> Danny Danone: If the other side is attacking civilian targets, you are allowed to retaliate. And we are seeing in the last few days that they continue to target the civilian targets in Israel, in the Gulf, you know, airports, hotels, so we have a legitimacy to target those civilian targets. We continue to strike strategic targets in Iran. You know, we have a long list, we accomplished a lot. And now we are targeting those sites, you know, and we have more and we will continue to do that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: he makes a good point because Iran has done that and targeted. And there's also, there's also a tie to whether a, whether civilian infrastructure lends itself to helping the military. That's what. We already knocked out a bridge that happened during World War II and other. You knock out bridges because tanks move across it, that kind of thing. So I leave that for the for the experts. Fred. this war is a terrible business and there's always collateral damage. and this is probably, if it continues, may get even nastier. and you always feel bad for the innocent civilians in a place like Iran who just want to live in freedom and not be living in a dictatorship under the kind of tyranny imposed this particular brand of Shia Islam. so, we'll have to wait and see. But this thing could take a turn for the worse, at any moment
>> Fred Jackson: I think there's also a reference. There's a distinct difference in motivation. In Iran, they are targeting civilians. They want innocent people to die. Yes. The reason that Israel will send a missile into a civilian area is because Hezbollah terrorists, and in the past, Hamas terrorists, they hide their rocket launchers inside of schools and apartment buildings, hospitals and hospitals and hospitals. I mean, they do that deliberately because they want to tell the world, look how bad Israel is. They're killing civilians, they're killing children, et cetera, et cetera. But those terrorists hide behind those civil. That's what's so disgusting about them. So there is a difference when it comes to that. Yeah.
King Charles declined to give an Easter message this year
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, all right. we've, discussed on this, fine program from time to time, the Muslim, influence in both the United States and Europe, particularly in England. And I wanted to, this year, King Charles, you know, we just past Easter, and he has in the past given an Easter message like the president sometimes doesn't. In fact, our president did, a message greeting his constituent, his subjects during Easter. Happy Easter message. he declined this year to do that. King Charles did, although just two months earlier, he did put out a social media tweet wishing all Muslims in the UK at the Commonwealth and around the world a blessed and peaceful Ramadan. and, so a lot of people are saying that England has been conquered, basically. I have video, not this year, but in the past, of him inviting Muslims into Buckingham palace to observe, the breaking of, the feast or whatever they do.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Breaking of their fast.
>> Steve Jordahl: Their fast, whatever it is that they do in that religion. he said dismissively. and, I have his son, Prince William, also saying that, Islam is a model religion of peace that everybody needs to learn from. But I did want to play you. This is what King Charles said to the Muslim, community a couple years ago. This is a couple years old, but this is the kind of message that he is in habit of giving to Muslims in his country while ignoring Easter. let's listen to cut 12.
>> King Charles: Salamu Alaikum Ramadan Mubarak.
King Charles sends best wishes to Muslims as they prepare for Eid celebrations
Ladies and gentlemen, as Muslims across the United Kingdomnomics and the Commonwealth begin preparations to celebrate Eid after fasting for the holy month of Ramadan, I just wanted to convey my heartfelt best wishes to all who celebrate this festival. And, to tell you just how much my wife and I are thinking of you at this special time of year. This last year, I know, has been deeply challenging for us all, and I'm only too aware of the impact of the pandemic on the Muslim community. This year, so many families like my own will have an empty seat at their dinner table and friends are no longer able to share the celebratory hug after Eid prayers.
>> Steve Jordahl: Now, obviously he's mentioning the pandemic. This was a couple years ago. I play that as an example of the deference that he does and has given in the past passed to Muslims in the.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Was there an explanation as to. I mean, it's pretty typical, isn't it, for King Charles to give an Easter address?
>> Steve Jordahl: There is a. It. It is a matter of, It has been for years and years that he has given a Christmas message. Easter is hit and miss.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: in England with him.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right. Well, Fred, ordinarily I say that anything a British says with that accent.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Makes him sound more intelligent.
>> Steve Jordahl: Okay. It's a little bit of why I play the clip.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. but not this time.
>> Fred Jackson: No.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This. To, to Steve's point, I. I wonder if the battle's not already lost in the UK to Islam.
>> Fred Jackson: Yep, no question. because of their immigration policy going way back, I think post Margaret Thatcher, they just opened the floodgates and, people from Islamic countries just flooded into that country. so much so that now the mayor of London is a Muslim. And some of the major, other major cities all have Muslim mayors. It's quite interesting. They, come in, behave peacefully, and then somebody was going through the escalation of, of Islamics. When they come into a country, the next thing they start public prayers, which they've been doing, in London, Liverpool, big cities there. Times Square, they've been praying in the streets. I can't think of another religion that takes over streets.
>> Steve Jordahl: Nor do they do this in Muslim countries, by the way. They don't take over streets in Muslim
>> Fred Jackson: countries because there's symbolism to praying in the streets. We are taking over this area and then they get involved with politics. And we're starting to see this. you know, Dearborn, Michigan is, is one place where, you know, calls to prayer over loudspeakers, etc. Etc. I'm. I'm wondering, as Mamdani settles in as the, the mayor of NewSong York, what is going to happen there? I believe there's already been prayers in
>> Ed Vitagliano: the streets in NewSong York City.
>> Fred Jackson: In NewSong York City, I believe that is Times Square. It's happened already. So I, I think, King Charles is responding to a political reality now. they are in. Islamics, are in very powerful positions. The populations are growing I remember there were reports in the last couple of years where police were told, basically, that area is out of your jurisdiction, that have large Muslim populations, that you don't go in there as British police officers. You leave it up to them. and so that's the way it's working. I mean, Islam's intent is to take over the world, and they're doing it bit by bit by bit.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and there are some churches in the UK that allow Muslims to pray inside those churches. Is controversy within the Church of England about whether that should be allowed. It's very frustrating from over here across it Atlantic, to see a country that is a. A kissing cousin, if you will. I. I guess I never liked that expression. But, you know, we're. This country, politically, is kin to England and, the. The Great Britain. And to see it voluntarily surrendering to, a religion that in. Fully intends to conquer any place it can. Yeah. And when they do, as we all saw, historically speaking, when they swept across North Africa and on into Spain, they take over areas, they target the churches, they desecrate them, and then they turn them into mosques.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: the largest church in the world. When Constantinople fell, I think it was the Hagia Sophia. It was turned into a mosque. And for the UK to simply surrender, it's just heartbreaking.
>> Steve Jordahl: Keep an eye on Texas.
>> Fred Jackson: Well, also, not only attacks on churches, but synagogues.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Fred Jackson: And I mean, now, we had that incident, in Michigan just a few weeks ago. this Islamic man drove his vehicle into a synagogue meeting place. There's a Jewish school there. And now we find out that he has relatives within Hezbollah. So, you know, it's. You don't want to be suspect of everyone, but there is enough evidence now, I believe, out there to. To be more aware of the agenda and to watch these incremental movements within Islamic communities, whether it's in England or whether it's here in the United States. Which is why, you know, the battle is going on right now in Texas with the idea of this, Is it epic.
>> Steve Jordahl: Epic city.
>> Fred Jackson: Epic city. Which is why, you know, Governor Abbott is fighting this, because he has seen this play before in other countries, and he wants to avoid it there in Texas. But that battle isn't over yet.
States are considering taxing leaving millionaires to pay for expensive government programs
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right. Okay. So blue states, we have been reporting also that blue states, like NewSong York, is losing its wealthy people because they have to. They are, been placing taxes on the wealthy, tax the rich in order to pay for all of the boondoggles and the free programs that they want to give to the rest. Someone's got to pay for free buses in NewSong York City. And NewSong York City says, well, tax the millionaires. Millionaires are leaving and billionaires are leaving. they're moving, to Florida in some cases, but they're moving to red states. And so we have states in a coordinated effort. These are new tax proposals in California, NewSong York, Washington State, Massachusetts, Michigan and Connecticut that will try to tax leaving fleeing billionaires, you know, an exit tax if you will. And let me just give you some details of this. in Michigan they want to impose a tax of nine and a quarter percent of the top rate on income over $500,000. If you leave, you get taxed nine, and a half or nine and a quarter percent over anything, over 500,000. In Washington state it's not, it's 9.9% on income over a million dollars. But both of those pale in comparison to California as usual. Listen to this. California wants to impose a one time 5% tax on the total net worth of anyone worth more than a billion dollars who resides in the state. not their income, their net worth. Which means if you have, an example they give here is if you have a business that has $2 million in liquid assets but $100 billion on paper value, in other words your stock and everything you get, you get taxed on the $100 billion. You have to pay $5 billion of taxes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And, and you can't. And people don't have that kind of liquidity to be able to. In other words, they don't have that sitting in a bank account.
>> Steve Jordahl: No, you know, they don't. So they're having to tax, they're, they're, they're having to pay for these programs that they, they tout and they have promised and it's all like tax the rich. Every time I hear a Democrat say that to pay their fair share, I know they're fair share is this, this is, they're, they're after some serious cash from these people to pay for, for something that they want to provide for free.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And Fred, there's some, some question about what's legal for states to do. I think California, I think it probably would wind up being legal. You could, if you pass it through the legislature, you could pass a law that says we're going to tax, we're going to tax everybody on their net worth. That means you got a vacation home, you have artwork that's worth A lot of m money. Everything from the silver in your drawer to, you know, grandma's, you know, nice china. You have to have an assessment of everything that you own and including like, Steve's talking about your business. What's your business worth? That probably would be legal. I'm not sure about the taxing millionaires on their way out. I think if a millionaire or billionaire leaves NewSong York City and moves to Florida or Texas, Nashville, whatever, whatever. I think as long as they don't have a house or spend X number of days in NewSong York City, I don't think NewSong York City has. Well, NewSong York City doesn't tax anyway. The state does the tax policy. But for the sake of argument, I'm not sure you can tax someone who's a resident of a different state, but they can hit them before they get out of Dodge.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, but Kathi Hochul, the governor of NewSong York, she has a solution. She said, Remember what she said? You have a patriotic duty, you millionaires who moved to Florida to come back here and help us out.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Fred Jackson: because we're starting all these welfare programs, the free grocery stores and everything. And we need you to come back. And I mean, what a joke that was, you know?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. These things have been, kind, of getting lower and lower. The, the rich is the, the definition of rich is, is becoming cheaper and cheaper because as they leave, you have to get the money from somewhere. They, they can't charge a tax in Manhattan, but they can't charge rent.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: And they're finding now that, they lease at one Vanderbilt, which, was they say is the highest rent ever recorded in NewSong York City. It's $320 per square foot. Now if you have a 2,000 square foot house, and this isn't a house, this is in Manhattan. But if you did have a 2,000 foot square foot house, that would be $640,000 a month to rent.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I just don't even know what to say to that. What's the old saying? That socialism is great until you run out of other people's money?
>> Steve Jordahl: Exactly.
>> Fred Jackson: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And this seems to be the very hard lesson. I'm enjoying it, watching from afar at the state of NewSong York City after Mamdani was elected. Fred. Because he's going to destroy that city and drive out their tax base.
>> Fred Jackson: Yep. But here's what's. Here's what will happen if the Democrats take control of the White House and the Senate and the House in the next election. We know what's going to happen, there's all going to be a federal grants that'll go to these cities to fund all of these left wing communist programs.
>> Steve Jordahl: Which means you'll be paying for it
>> Ed Vitagliano: until nobody has any money left.
>> Fred Jackson: That's right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Because NewSong York City's too big to fail.
>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: well, look, folks, if you read the Book of Proverbs, you come to the understanding that, reality is a brutal teacher. And everyone in America, but especially in these blue cities and blue states, is learning that very tough lesson. all right, we just had Easter yesterday, at least for Western Christians. And, thankful for the resurrection.
>> Steve Jordahl: Amen.
>> Danny Danone: Amen.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, folks, more great programming directly ahead on American Family Radio. We'll see you tomorrow.
