Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildman
>> Steve Jordahl: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR. We'll be here for the next 24 and a half minutes. I'm Tim with Wesley. And now Steve Paisley. Georgia joins us. Good morning, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning, everybody.
Our Activate Summit 2026 is a family friendly conference
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Wesley, did you have something else you wanted to say before we moved on?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes, I just. The one thing I didn't mention about Our Activate Summit 2026 is that our topic is marriage and family.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And so just wanted to emphasize what we're going to be covering. Marriage and family. And again, our speakers, Bert Harper, Jeff Schrieve, Jessica Peck, Josh Wood, Katy Fous, and Laura Petherbridge. And I just want to make sure that everyone knows the sign up is now you can go [email protected] summit.
>> Tim Wildmon: How much does it cost?
>> Wesley Wildmon: It is for the main session for adults. Remember, this is three days. It's 175. And for kids ages 6 through 12, it's $75 for three days. also two ages.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're losing on that deal.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes, Tell me about it. We're having a.
>> Tim Wildmon: Why is it so inexpensive?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, we're trying to just break even just because we're wanting to make sure that as many families can come. Because our, our listening audience is made up of three or four or five kids per family or, just. They just have a lot.
>> Tim Wildmon: They have.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm kidding about it. Absolutely. I, we, we're a ministry, so sometimes you make. We're not, we're not interested in, quote, making money off something, although sometimes we do. M. But you, you have to add ministry still has to have a balance sheet.
>> Wesley Wildmon: A week in the black.
>> Tim Wildmon: But, I mean, that isn't our primary inf. We. We want to serve people and have ministry.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. And so that's the reason for. That's the reason we spend as much time stressing over, making sure that it's affordable for families, but also break even as we can. also last but not least, ages five and under are free. Ages five and under.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because how do you know whether they're five?
>> Wesley Wildmon: You know. Right. You know, birth certificates, you know, I
>> Tim Wildmon: mean, you need some. We'll need some kind of verification.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Verification. That's right. No, well, you know what? We just assume because they're Christians, they're telling the truth. I guess we could be taken advantage of.
>> Tim Wildmon: I've been beaten. Christians beat me on stuff. Before, so maybe they won't.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's not the case here.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, seriously, five years old and under, you get in free.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right, five.
>> Tim Wildmon: And it is a family friendly conference. They have a kids track come to Tupelo, Mississippi and in July. It's always pleasant weather that time of year here.
>> Wesley Wildmon: July 16th
>> Tim Wildmon: weather, probably high 70s during the day. So anyway, hopefully we'll see a lot of our listeners then. July 16th through the 18th. What's the website?
>> Wesley Wildmon: afa.netsummit.
>> Tim Wildmon: okay, Steve, what do you got?
How should you respond if you disagree with the Pope on immigration
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, I know that we've been talking a bit about the battle between the Pope and the President. I have this is an example of how not to respond and how to respond if you disagree with the Pope. How not to respond. We talked about it yesterday, the Pope putting out a meme of himself and trying to one up the Pope and blessing people and everything. How should you respond if you disagree with the Pope? Well, the Pope has said some things about immigration in this country. Let me read you. He said, when people are living good lives and many of them in the United States for 10, 15, 20 years, to treat them in a way that is extremely disrespectful is not acceptable. We are disturbed when we see among our people a climate of fear and anxiety around the question of profiling and immigration enforcement. The, the Pope is buying into the anti ice rhetoric. Well, border, Czar Thom Homan had a reply to the Pope and this is probably a good thing. If you want to know how to respond if you disagree with somebody, this is how to do it. Cut 14.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm not going to speak for the President. I'm speaking for myself, a lifelong Catholic. I wish they stay out of immigration if they don't know what they're talking about. Because if they wore my shoes for 40 years and talked to a 9 year old girl that got raped multiple times or stood in the back of the trailer, back tractor trailer with 19 dead aliens at my feet, including a 5 year old boy that baked to death. If they understood the atrocities that happened on open border, I think their opinion would change and I welcome a discussion with any of them because they don't understand illegal immigration is not a victim of crime. Where President Trump had the most secure border in the lifetime of this nation right now, lives are being saved. He's saving thousands of lives a year because he has a secure border. Human traffickers are out of business.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right?
>> Tim Wildmon: The cartels are, are going bankrupt because of that secure border. I wish they'd Understand that. Because if they did, I think they have a different opinion.
>> Tim Wildmon: That was, Thom Homan, who is. What's his title again?
>> Steve Jordahl: Border czar.
>> Tim Wildmon: Border czar. And he was talking as a Catholic about the Pope's commenting on, our country's handling of illegal immigration. listen, this Pope is a, lefty, and he feels the need to comment on everything. you know, and so always
>> Wesley Wildmon: mostly comments on the. In the. In the real position.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And I think what a lot of Catholics are saying is, why don't you stick with the issues that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Like doctrine.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. That you are really. Now, Popes, as long as I can remember, have always talked somewhat on current events, world events. But.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, we ask our pastors to speak on political events when they cross scripture. Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But him to go out of his way when he's the Catholic. He's the Catholic leader of the world. To focus on American. Why don't you focus on, why is he talking about China persecuting Christians or Iran slaughtering 30 or 40,000. maybe he has. I don't know. I'm just saying. He just seems to be zeroed in on,
>> Tim Wildmon: He.
>> Tim Wildmon: He does seem to have tds. I'll be honest with you. this Pope does. But, but, I've got a, Not all Catholics like this guy. He is the leader of the church.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Sure.
>> Tim Wildmon: And they're Catholic, but a friend of mine.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'll tell you about this. I'm not gonna name names.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. I go, well, you're gonna give it away.
>> Tim Wildmon: We used to golf. He. He's injured. He can't golf as much anymore. But he's Catholic, goes to mass every Sunday, so he, We golf.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And. And we golf together. And I know that if I want to catch him, if I'm behind, if I. Because we're in the same golf cart.
You can't be a Catholic without agreeing with Pope Francis on some issues
>> Tim Wildmon: If I will just bring up the topic of the Pope. He visibly changes. His demeanor changes, his speech changes. The way he pulls clubs out of the bag changes.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Even if he was playing good prior.
>> Steve Jordahl: Especially if he's playing good. Priority.
>> Tim Wildmon: You can tell his blood pressure. So then he begins to hit the ball all over the place. And I feel bad when I do that a little bit, but it helps me win. You know what I'm saying?
>> Wesley Wildmon: I do understand what you're saying.
>> Tim Wildmon: So if you want to get a conservative Catholic upset.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: and get them distracted, you. You start talking about the current Pope and it'll Work every time.
>> Wesley Wildmon: To your point, not all Catholics.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, no.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Probably majority of them are in America.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know. I don't know exactly how you. We haven't. How you process all that because the Pope is the spiritual leader of the Catholic Church.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Sure.
>> Tim Wildmon: But if you're in. But you can be a Catholic without agreeing with him.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: On politics. Now, when he teaches on. This is the way I understand it. When you teach his own church doctrine, then there's more agreement, probably authority. Authority than there is with him out there willy nilly talking about war and what. I always get these. A lot of these very, liberal church leaders. They say things that, to me oftentimes are, I don't know.
>> Tim Wildmon: They.
>> Tim Wildmon: They don't have any context in reality or they're so broad in general. I'm going like, well, who isn't for peace?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, sure. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: So. So what this Pope seems to say, he says he's for peace and against war. And, he said something to the fact war never solves anything. And I'm going, yeah, it does.
>> Steve Jordahl: He also.
>> Tim Wildmon: Do you not study history at all?
>> Steve Jordahl: He also says that God never listens to the prayers of people who commit war.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, that's not true.
>> Steve Jordahl: David would have a hard time praying to his God.
>> Tim Wildmon: I guarantee you. I guarantee you. If you had. If you had in Vatican City, you had an invasion and they started, pillaging and taking all the artwork that the Vatican hoes. I guess what. You know what the Pope would do? He'd call the cops. Now, Vatican City is its own country, but he probably called cops in Rome and say, get over here. Stop this. The Swiss Guard, they're robbing us. They're stealing from us. Well, that. That police action is the same as a police action of a military who's trying to keep law and order for the world.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or for some place in the world. Or to protect innocent people. So sometimes war is unfortunately necessary for the greater good. And this Pope doesn't seem to acknowledge that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And the obvious thing is that we live in a fallen world. So theoretically. But it's not a reality in a fallen world also, too. Every time this comes up, we can't go without saying that they have walls at the Vatican City. They have rules, they have policies.
>> Tim Wildmon: You have to say, what, Everybody walk in.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Start camping out in St. Peter's Basilica. I mean, you don't. They're not. It's not allowed. That's not very immigrant friendly.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. That's what. That's the point I was making. Yeah.
Bruce Jenner is a very conflicted man, says Steve Weston
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, you're listening to today's issues. go ahead, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Bruce Jenner is a very conflicted man. As you know, he, became Caitlyn Jenner many years ago now and everything. And he's talking to, he's on a podcast and he's calling himself a hypocrite. Let's just listen to this. We can dissect it in a second. This is cut 16.
>> Steve Jordahl: Here I am fighting the battle to keep biological men out of women's sports.
>> Steve Jordahl: Okay. Because it's, it's not right. It just is not right. Okay. And I want to protect women. But back when I came out, what did I accept? Glamorous Woman of the Year award. And I go, what a hypocrite. I'm still xy. What a hypocrite. I am, you know, trying to keep biological men at a women's sports. But I'm a biological man and they gave me Glamorous Woman of the Year award.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So do you think a little bit
>> Steve Jordahl: of awareness there, huh?
>> Wesley Wildmon: yeah, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: He said, I'm still X Y. Yeah. Which is the crowd. He talk about chromosomes. Yes, he is XY being male. What'd you go say, Weston?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, I was going to ask, because you found this audio in this video, do you think that this is him, him turning a corner or just recognizing he's a cross dresser? Pretty much.
>> Steve Jordahl: I think there's some conflict within his mind because he has conservative values and he understands that. I think he understands that he doesn't call himself a woman. He says he's a biological male. He's xy. I think I'm with you. He's just saying, well, I guess I'm a cross dresser. I don't know. He's conflicted. You cannot be this ill and not be conflicted.
>> Tim Wildmon: But people in my age, that was a shocker when he did this and I hadn't got over it because Bruce Jenner was, one of the top sports celebrities of the 70s. He won, the, was it the triathlon?
>> Steve Jordahl: decathlon.
>> Tim Wildmon: The decathlon at the 1976 Olympics. He was on the COVID of Wheaties. I say cover, it's not a cover. On the box.
>> Steve Jordahl: He was on the Wheaties.
>> Tim Wildmon: He was on the front, front, front of the box of Wheaties as, you know, breakfast of champions. And Bruce Jenner was, he was a big deal. So, you know, world class athlete. For him to come out as a woman, well, now he's saying he's not a woman. He's basically what you're talking about, Wesley. he's just a man who puts on a dress, is basically what he's saying right there. Go ahead, Steve.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, obviously it also does affirm what we all know to be true. And there's, there's some positive trends here.
>> Tim Wildmon: Maybe he'll be, maybe he'll,
>> Steve Jordahl: He started the whole thing.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm sorry.
>> Wesley Wildmon: No. Well, no, you're fine. I just didn't want to. It's easy on stories like this to get away from a good point. And the good point is that he is. Seems, seems to be in this video at least. Like Steve, said it conflict with reality.
>> Steve Jordahl: He's got a lot to make up for. It was, Bruce Jenner, if I recall my history correctly, and I was covering all of this at the time. it wasn't until Bruce Jenner came out that it became acceptable to be a transgender person. He made it acceptable because he's someone right in the mainstream society. After he came out and decided he was transgender, all of a sudden all the teas and the Alphabet soup got up in, arms and started making, problems for everybody. And then the transing of the kids.
>> Tim Wildmon: I hope and pray he leaves that lifestyle M and comes to know the Lord. I know he knows about the Lord, but he gives his life to the Lord because there's still hope for him. And he's talking some sense right there.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. A lot of these transgender people, they don't talk any sense. They say, no, I'm a girl.
>> Steve Jordahl: You say, well, what is a girl?
>> Tim Wildmon: No, you know, you don't, you have male genitalia to prove it. among other things, chromosomes. But anyway, go ahead, Steve.
Japanese researchers asked AI for advice about policies during last election
>> Steve Jordahl: All right. we have documented the, AI.
>> Tim Wildmon: So we're documented.
>> Steve Jordahl: We are documented artificial intelligence. We have, we have talked about it being biased. And here's another data point to put into your, economy here. The Waseda Institute of Political Economy had Japanese voters ask AI for advice about policies during the last election. Well, it turns out that multiple, models across multiple companies recommended the Communist Party as the best party for Japan. This is more built in bias in artificial intelligence. The experiment revealed a striking pattern. When asked which party to support in the elections, five major AI models from three companies overwhelmingly directed voter profiles with left leaning policy positions and to vote for the Chinese, I'm sorry, the Japanese Communist Party. Just, just so you know, there is bias in AI well, what?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, you're affirming what we assume when they. When AI was becoming a thing. I mean, that was one of the first things that the conservatives or Christians were concerned about is that, are we going to get another, like, liberal media? Are we going to get another biased in AI? And you're saying that's true? Yeah. there's different versions or. I'm sorry, there's different people with AI. Are there different. You know what I mean?
>> Steve Jordahl: Like, different companies.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Companies.
>> Steve Jordahl: Different companies are doing AI Now. we have been talking about Anthropic lately. Anthropic is the one that, if you look at Twitter, you'll see Grok, okay, Is on the side of all the Twitter doc. Grok is Anthropic's chatbot. A chatbot is the one that you go to. To talk to. But AI is everywhere. AI we talked recently. Didn't we talk about the new AI model that was designed to infiltrate different security, systems on computer systems, the ones that could get into your bank account and take all your money? well, Anthropic recently decided that they wanted to talk to the religious leaders around the world about putting fences. Ethical guidelines around AI. I talked to Bob McGinnis yesterday, about this. I have a story that's running tomorrow, on, They did not ask Bob McGinnis to be part of it, which, they should have. but, he says it's a little late in the game to be putting fences around, like, ethical boundaries. He should have been asking these questions a while ago. But, they,
>> Tim Wildmon: I have asked the question, if we. If I embrace AI, will it help Mississippi State to win a college football championship?
>> Wesley Wildmon: And your answer you found was what? And the answer you found was, in
>> Steve Jordahl: any sport, I would assume it would help more if the coach, embraced AI more than if you did.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I don't care if it's fantasy. I just want to know AI can help generate something that I can believe in.
>> Steve Jordahl: It can. Well, here's the thing. AI has been known to give, you answers that you want to hear more than answers that are the truth.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: So they m. Might tell you that, State won or will win the national, championship.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. All right. Well, we'll see what happens with this one.
>> Wesley Wildmon: All right, now let me clarify your question. Yeah. You're saying that if you. If you embrace it, as in, like, making it a part of your daily life, would it help you win? Or are you saying if college. If college sports.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't want A.I. as part of my daily life. Okay, number one, I've got enough problems. Okay. I don't.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Some would say it's helpful.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's going to make life easier.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. Okay. That's just.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Anyway, now, now you do want.
>> Tim Wildmon: You are, you are provoking me.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Now you do, you're provoking. Now you do want. Is it, is it true the rumors that you do want motion sensor doors like the motion sensor sinks that we have?
>> Tim Wildmon: No, son, all I want is hot water and ah, a clean sheet and a knob. Oh, a knob. Oh, yeah. why we ever decided we could improve on a knob or is beyond me. Now, now you got a. You knew what, got me going.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I told them for April Fool's next show.
>> Tim Wildmon: I speak for many Americans when I say we're tired of putting our hands underneath the sensor and the trying to find out where we.
>> Steve Jordahl: I think I'm invisible to towels and things. I put my hand under there, nothing happens.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, that's what I'm saying. So you put your hand under the sensor and you got to find the sensor for the, two seconds of water comes out, you've already soaked up your hands. And I'm just saying to you, somewhere along the way somebody said, you know what? That knob, that handle is not good enough to control the water. We need a sensor. And I'm saying at that point is when things went sideways in technology.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So then agree with me.
Steve: We're changing door handles to electronic where there's motion
Yes. so instead of the, what I'm getting at is instead of the door handles that we have on the doors, they're, we're, you know, we're changing those to electronic where there's a motion.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, we're not in my office. We're not. Okay, I'll take the door off.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Just take the whole door.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, our next, next story. Steve.
Eating McDonald's food doesn't help you gain or lose weight
>> Steve Jordahl: All right, let's, let's look at some headlines. I want to give us, I want to give us some headlines from, the most trusted, news source in America, the Babylon B, who says that, Donald Trump is complaining that he's being crucified for comparing himself to Jesus.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, no, no, no. That's what. The Babylon.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, that's, yeah, they've, they've proven, they've been proven across or get at the line. Across it occasionally.
>> Steve Jordahl: He also predicts that his approval ratings will be resurrected in three days. So I don't know. You got him going now? I'm getting him, going on that one.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I think we're good. No more of that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hopefully we don't see any Kind of stuff like that out of him.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, hopefully not sure. but those are. Those are the top ones right there. Miracles performed by President. I'll need. I'm just reading out loud.
>> Steve Jordahl: CNN is, Well, here you go. McDonald's has added a new McFlurry. It's the Ozempic McFlurry because, well, they need. Everybody who uses. Gets the McFlurry kind of would. Could use Ozempic as well, so they're combining the best of both.
>> Tim Wildmon: you lost me here.
>> Steve Jordahl: Weight loss drugs.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know what that is. Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: McDonald's has introduced a new Ozempic McFlurry.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh. Oh. Eating McDonald's food helps you lose weight. Is that what you're saying?
>> Steve Jordahl: The right one, apparently.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's what Babylon is that Babylon B.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's all.
>> Tim Wildmon: Eating McDonald's food doesn't help you gain or lose weight. It's how much you take in. you know, watch out.
>> Wesley Wildmon: You've been listening to me because I've been saying that for years. It's not about what you. It's about how much of it.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: now put. Now, the, oic. Is that, Is that discussion. Is that still a popular thing?
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, yeah. In fact, I've seen somebody selling it by the pill now. You don't even have to inject it anymore.
>> Wesley Wildmon: There's. There's a couple different versions of it, you know, but. Yeah, brands. There's a couple different brands of it.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right.
>> Steve Jordahl: There's a GLP one, I think is what they're calling it.
>> Wesley Wildmon: You're missing the entire point here.
>> Tim Wildmon: If you, way I lose weight, stop eating so much.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, that's always worked. when I get, the scales,
>> Steve Jordahl: this is what I say. If you want to lose weight, eat less, move more.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yep, there you go.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, man, you start taking these artificial drugs? I don't know. Are any drugs not artificial, but you're taking them, and that there's. There's got to be a downside to that for a lot of people that maybe they don't even realize.
Steve Martin: Oil needs to come down before November elections, Republicans need help
Now, go ahead. We got about what? We got about one minute left, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: All right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Any stock tips for us?
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't have stock tips. just, probably now is a good time to invest in oil, because according to the president, oil is going to get. The price of oil is going to go down because we're almost near the end of the war. I don't know if you played that cut, today or not.
>> Tim Wildmon: But President Trump says, we played him talking that he thought the war was going to end.
>> Steve Jordahl: Quote, he said, I've heard him say that the price of oil is coming down, so you can expect a little slower than it went up.
>> Tim Wildmon: It better come down before November or the Republicans are going to be heard at the ballot box.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, point.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: But, it needs to come down, in the next month, I would say.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, for sure.
>> Tim Wildmon: Because sometimes things get stuck in people's heads.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know what I'm saying? And so I'm just talking about politically speaking.
>> Wesley Wildmon: The economy is always at the top. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't think it will hurt gas prices, money, the Republicans and Trump being the head of the Republican Party in November, if the prices of gasoline will. Or oil are trending now, if they'll come down in the next month, maybe two months max. But after that, people start getting it in their head that, you know what
>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm saying, the heat caused gas prices.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, thank you, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: My pleasure.
>> Tim Wildmon: thanks to Westy and Fred and Brent, our producer, Cole Greene, our video man, and thank you for listening. And Abraham Hamilton was on with us, too, today. So have a good rest of your Wednesday. We'll see you back here tomorrow. Keep listening to American Family Radio.
