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Welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR. Today is August 13, 2026, and in studio with me today is Fred Jackson. Good morning, Fred.
Fred Jackson: Good morning. Happy Thursday.
Tim Wildmon: Well, happy Thursday to you too, my friend. And, Chris Woodward.
Chris Woodward: Hello.
Tim Wildmon: we three will be handling the show today, but we're going to have some guests coming up, aren't we?
Fred Jackson: Absolutely. And one that, our audience very familiar with, Bishop E.W. jackson, just appreciate him so much. And he'll, be joining us around 10:30 or so.
Tim Wildmon: We're going to talk to him about what AW stands for.
Chris Woodward: I was this. I was today years old this week when I found out what it stands for.
Fred Jackson: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: So Bishop E.W. jackson, he also does a podcast for us here on American Family Radio. We'll let him talk about that. But he was on Fox, News last weekend. Right. Talking about the 250th anniversary of our country. And do you know the topic there?
Fred Jackson: Yeah, I think he was asked about what was going on. Remember there was quite, a bit of controversy in the last 10 days or so. The head of the Smithsonian, Institute.
Tim Wildmon: That's right.
Fred Jackson: She was before a Senate hearing and she faced some pretty tough questions about the wokeness, some of the displays at the Smithsonian. She didn't apologize for it, but there was an interview with Bishop Jackson about that. Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: Okay.
Fred Jackson: So, needless to say he didn't, agree.
Tim Wildmon: I think what the essence of it is is that the woke side is putting, very much an overemphasis, from a historically historical perspective on, the bad parts of American history.
Fred Jackson: Yeah, yeah.
Tim Wildmon: And there's there are bad parts to American history, namely slavery.
Fred Jackson: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: But there's a wonderful, ongoing and enduring story about America, our country and what we overcame.
Fred Jackson: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: And the, what we have today.
Fred Jackson: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: So I, think Bishop Jackson, you know, as an African American man himself.
Fred Jackson: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: Wanted to speak to that. So we will be talking to him about, that and other things coming up at the bottom of the hour. You're listening to today's issue. Does he call himself an African American?
Fred Jackson: He, he may.
Tim Wildmon: He's a black fella.
Fred Jackson: He's a. He's a black fellow.
Tim Wildmon: He's a black fella. He's a. I love dearly who's a Christian brother. He's a Christian brother. But I'm talking about in this context, you know, if I'm called a European American, I go, what are you talking about? I'm a white guy.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: You know, so I'm wondering if some African American, black folks feel like, I'm not from Africa. I'm from America.
Fred Jackson: I love Bishop Jackson. I used to fill in for him when he had his program on the network, and he referred to me as his brother of a different color.
Chris Woodward: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: All right.
Chris Woodward: I prefer short, tan, and seasoned.
Tim Wildmon: Oh, well, yes, Chris that fits you perfectly. Short, tanned, and what now?
Chris Woodward: Seasoned for my hair.
Tim Wildmon: Oh, seasoned. I got you. Okay. All right, so we look forward to visiting with, our brother, E.W. jackson, coming up at the bottom of the hour.
White House press secretary Caroline Levitt is leaving to spend more time with children
what's first on the news, cycle there, Chris?
Chris Woodward: Yeah. We're going to go back to yesterday afternoon when news broke that White House press secretary Caroline Levitt is resigning as press secret secretary for The White House. 27 years old. She is the youngest White House press secretary in the history of press secretaries. But she wants to, spend more time with her children and her husband. There she is. What's that?
Tim Wildmon: She has one child.
Chris Woodward: She's got two.
Tim Wildmon: She has two now.
Fred Jackson: She had two this year, and they're both under two years of age.
Chris Woodward: She had one just a few months.
Tim Wildmon: Apologies. Chris you're the newsman. You had the facts.
Bishop EW Jackson: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: I didn't realize that other child escaped me.
Chris Woodward: I was there in the delivery room, reporting.
Tim Wildmon: Okay, so she has two children now under. She had a baby. I knew she had a baby, but she's got another one.
Fred Jackson: Yeah, yeah, she had one, early last year. I believe it was early 24 maybe.
Chris Woodward: Early on. Yeah, she was a new mom when she came on in this position, and then she had one just a few months ago.
Fred Jackson: Yep. And her husband is 60 years of age.
Chris Woodward: Yes.
Fred Jackson: So, you can kind of understand why Caroline, would like to take a break from that very intense job that she's had at the White House, Take a break from that. Spend time with her, her two kids, and her husband.
Chris Woodward: Yeah. So this news caught everybody by surprise. I think even Fox News, they were quick to send Jackie Heinrich over to the White House because Jackie Heinrich is one of the many Fox News reporters that's in the press briefings when Caroline Levitt is fielding questions and giving all kinds of answers to reporters. Jackie Heinrich praised Caroline Levitt, saying she's been very easy to work with and much better than the press secretary in the previous administration. Clip 8.
Tim Wildmon: Very accessible. And in the room with the president, as opposed to, under the Biden administration, for example, when we would try to get answers from Karine Jean Pierre often, it was apparent that she wasn't as close to the decision makers and able to give us valuable information as Caroline has been in her time here.
Chris Woodward: so.
Bishop EW Jackson: So this is going to be a
Tim Wildmon: big loss for this White House.
Chris Woodward: We don't know officially who the replacement will be. Sometimes people that are in a deputy press secretary position get the promotion. The president is fully within his rights to look outside the White House and find somebody to replace. Or we shall see.
Tim Wildmon: Well, I tell you what, President Trump has done an excellent job, hiring, these press secretaries that he's had because they're all five stars going back to now. Sean's. What was the guy's name? The first one?
Chris Woodward: Spicer.
Tim Wildmon: He wasn't around long.
Fred Jackson: No, no, he was short.
Tim Wildmon: I'm talking about in 2016. Right. But then, Sarah Huckabee Sanders took over.
Fred Jackson: She did a great job.
Tim Wildmon: She did a great job. And then next, up was, Kayleigh McEnany. Kaylee McEnany. And, she was. She and Sarah were equally as good, in my opinion.
Chris Woodward: I think, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the fact that she was on television pretty much every day, that aided her. When it came to her campaign in Arkansas for governor, people saw that she could handle the job.
Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Caroline Levitt has impressed me as White House press secretary
And now Carolyn Levin. Now we lose track of time. How long has President Trump actually been in office this term?
Chris Woodward: he entered January 20th of 2025. A year and a half.
Tim Wildmon: A year and a half. Roughly a year and a half. I don't know what the average tenure is for a White House press secretary, but I'm guessing two years is probably about the average, wouldn't you say?
Fred Jackson: It's a tough job.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Fred Jackson: Caroline, Levitt just has impressed me for such a young person. Is she 30, 27, 28 years old? She ran for office.
Chris Woodward: She did. She ran for a congressional seat.
Fred Jackson: Was it in, Was it. I trying to think. Was it NewSong Hampshire, one of the NewSong England states?
Chris Woodward: I'll look it up for you.
Fred Jackson: Yeah, she ran for office. She. Obviously, she didn't win, but she was part of the MAGA movement. And then, of course, when the president got elected, that she moved in. And for such a young person to handle the fireworks that often erupted in that, briefing room, I mean, she faced some really tough questions. She never got ratt Rattled. She never got rattled. I never saw that young lady rattled by the, you know, from the CNN reporters and the NewSong York Times reporters, that sort of thing. Some really kind of pointed, forcefully delivered questions and she was really cool. So, boy, I'm not sure how long she plans to retire, but you know, she could come back at 40 years of age when her kids are 20 years old and do another great job.
Chris Woodward: It was NewSong Hampshire, by the way.
Fred Jackson: To answer the question.
Tim Wildmon: Okay, you can't be press secretary, White House press secretary with two children under two. And then she got a nanny. and Caroline Levitz doesn't strike me as a nanny type. She's hands on with her kids. So anyway, good for her. Pray for her.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: Her new family. Yeah. Her husband's like my age, isn't he?
Fred Jackson: He's 60 years old.
Tim Wildmon: He's 60.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: She's 20, 27 or 28. That's a pretty big, wide, age.
Fred Jackson: It is. And you know, I was thinking about this last night. I can understand, yes, she wants to spend more time with her kids, but she also said, I want to spend more time with my husband.
Tim Wildmon: Right.
Fred Jackson: Because you just stop and think these, these kids are growing up and you know, they'll become teenagers, but he's going to be in. So she wants to spend time as a family right now.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Fred Jackson: when everybody's healthy and wish her the best.
Former Southern Poverty Law center official charged with wire fraud, money laundering
Tim Wildmon: What's next story Chris A former
Chris Woodward: Southern Poverty Law center official has been charged in the DOJ's broader criminal case against the Alabama based civil rights group. A lawyer for the ex official said yesterday 59 year old Heidi Byrick of Palm Springs, California served as the SBLC's chief financial officer and she is charged with wire fraud conspiracy, conspiracy to submit false statements to a federally insured bank and conspiracy to commit concealment money laundering. she's charged in the DOJ's existing case against the SBLC in Montgomery, Alabama. I have some audio here from our new U.S. attorney General Todd Blanche.
Tim Wildmon: Clip 12 believe she was part of
Fred Jackson: the effort to open bank accounts and completely fictitious companies names and make payments that to individuals for reasons that were not, that they were not accurate as described.
Chris Woodward: If you're new to us as a ministry, and this show earlier this year we played sound from Todd Blanche and others talking about how they had uncovered evidence showing that the SPLC was funding the extremism they claim to be fighting. And this is part of that broader, investigation.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Most people know the SPLC is a group out of Montgomery, Alabama. And they, their self appointed task basically is to point out hate groups across America and they alone get to decide what a hate group is. And it's always, it's almost always conservative groups. That's their, you know, for one reason or another. So. But what they were, what they're charged with is, is, writing checks to hate groups so that hate groups continue to do their work so that the SPLC can cite those hate groups and thereby raise money off of the hate that the groups are doing. Does that make, that make. That doesn't make sense. But it does. That's what, that's what's going on. It doesn't make. You wouldn't think, well, why would, why would a group that's opposing something fun, that very thing they say they oppose? Well, that is a good question. I mean, who does that? but, what you got. But this group, the splc, they kind of need a reason to exist today because, they cite us as a hate group.
Chris Woodward: They do.
Tim Wildmon: And we're on there eternally. There's nothing you can do or not do that would get you off their list. And also, in addition to their. Anyway, that's what the Justice Department is charging them with. And wire fraud, I guess is they're saying that this. Was she the cfo.
Chris Woodward: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: Okay. That she was. Her name was on the money, on the quote, checks, end quote, for the wire frauding to. And this wasn't just one person, this was several, people inside the hate groups that they were opposed to that they were sending money to.
Chris Woodward: Yeah. And they cla. They have claimed, no wrongdoing. They have claimed that they're being unfairly targeted by the Trump administration.
Tim Wildmon: Well, we're being unfairly targeted by the splc, but whatever.
Chris Bishop: SPLC used list to determine who was a hate group
Chris Woodward: Speaking of administrations, there when this story broke months ago, and we brought in the audio from Blanche and others, there were reports at that time that SPLC officials had been to the White House many times when Joe Biden was president. And I bring that up because hardly a month went by without us airing a sound bite of President Joe Biden, then President Biden saying white extremism is the most dangerous thing in America during
Tim Wildmon: the, Obama years. And I'm not. It may have been true during Biden's four years, but during the Obama years, the, United States Justice Department, the United States military, Pentagon and others in the federal government were using the list that the SPLC provided them to determine who was a hate group. Yeah. And so I remember getting Calls from, National Guardsmen and from also from people, in state police offices calling us, saying, hey, I'm being subjected to a video that's supposed to be a training, video to warn us about the hate groups in America. And American Family association is in the video that's being produced by the splc that's being used by the federal government to warn their employees about groups like ours. Yeah. Of course.
Tim Wildmon: You combine that with, what went on with the Internal Revenue Service during the Obama administration when, they. Lois Lerner was her name. And it was, learned that the IRS was denying nonprofit status to groups based on their, names and their conservative, principles.
Fred Jackson: Yeah, Tea Party groups.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah, they were being. And so they were being. It's not the IRS's job to decide whether the politics or the policies that a group advocates for is worthy of a tax exempt status. All they're supposed to do is process. so. And you do have to provide information, a, mission statement and financials and all these things, but you don't. But they were denying the, Biden. Excuse me, Under Obama, the IRS was denying, the nonprofit status groups based on their politics and based on their worldview and what they advocated for. But what was interesting, you also remember Lois Lerner, the IRS chief under Obama was called to testify and she pulled a fauci.
Fred Jackson: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: She said, fifth, Amendment. I plead the Fifth Amendment again. That's the first time I'd ever heard me personally, the Fifth Amendment being used by a civil servant to not answer questions from the people that are. To oversee her job performance. Yeah, I, mean, that's. I don't know what all the legal technicalities are, but that should not be allowed if you are a federal government or a state government. But if you're a federal government employee and you oversee a agency and you're called so the tax dollars. Right, right. Provided by the US Citizen. And you're called to testify before a congressional committee to answer questions about what your agency is doing or not doing or how you're operating, you should not be able to say, I ain't answering that. Now, if you want to say I don't know, or if you want to say, you know what? Stall out, say, I'll get back to you on that. They do that all the time. But. But to say I plead the Fifth Amendment means that suggests that what you were doing was illegal.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: And you don't want to own up to it. So. Yeah, that's what Dr. Fauci did. How many times?
Chris Woodward: Oh, 111 times.
Fred Jackson: 111 times. And of course, the difference was, is that Foushee has this blanket pardon for anything he did for what, from 2015.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Biden gave him a pardon when Biden was leaving the White House for 10 years or something like. And you're going like, why do you, why do you, why do you have to pardon, a guy before he's even testify? I don't. Unless you think he's guilty of something.
Fred Jackson: But you know, Tim, it's really interesting how the Democrats today are talking about, Trump is weaponizing the Justice Department and all of that. You talk about weaponizing the federal government against your political enemies.
Tim Wildmon: Right.
Fred Jackson: You know, what Obama did and what Joe Biden did during their years in the White House. and of course, the mainstream media covered for them, as they often do. They were on their side because the mainstream media doesn't like conservatives.
Tim Wildmon: Right.
Chris Woodward: How they leave that out when it's there.
Tim Wildmon: Yes, you're listening to Today's issues. Bishop E.W. jackson will be with us at the bottom of the hour. Next, Next story. Chris
Multiple Navy sailors reportedly tried to jump overboard as deployment is extended indefinitely
Chris Woodward: Alright, Many Christians and their churches make it a point to pray for military service members. We pray for their health and their safety, for them to have victory. and I bring that up because we should be in prayer for sailors on board the USS Abraham Lincoln. There are reports today, and I shared this in our Today's Issues Facebook page, multiple US Navy sailors have reportedly tried to jump overboard from the USS Lincoln as their deployment in the Middle east is extended indefinitely. Roughly 5,000 sailors and Marines remain onboard the aircraft carrier almost nine months on from when their deployment first began on November 21st. They had been scheduled to return home in May, but authorities extended the deployment indefinitely amid the ongoing conflict with Iran.
Tim Wildmon: Okay, so let me get this straight. Just the facts of this situation here. I saw that story. we have the USS Abraham Lincoln is a aircraft carrier.
Chris Woodward: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: That, has 5,000 sailors aboard. Right? Correct.
Fred Jackson: So that's a small city.
Tim Wildmon: It's a small city, yeah.
Chris Woodward: It's bigger than my hometown by twice, twice as much.
Tim Wildmon: Okay. So they, that, that, ship was supposed to come to Norfolk and be back to the U.S. this is, before the Iranian conflict.
Chris Woodward: Oh, it's actually, they were scheduled to be back in May, so we had already been bombing them.
Tim Wildmon: So they were out to sea. Correct me if I'm wrong, they were out to sea and then they were told, you're, you're not coming back to Norfolk, you're being dispatched to the Strait of Hormuz or that area. Right? Yes, the, was that Indian Ocean area. and so they've been there, they've been out to sea nine months.
Fred Jackson: Nine months, yeah.
Tim Wildmon: And so without port.
Chris Woodward: Yeah, yeah. Just sitting out there in the water.
Tim Wildmon: Okay, Fred, you said. Now I know these sailors are trained, the military trains them for. And they signed up for it. So nobody's denying that. but yet still, you put 5,000 people on a ship for nine months without port. That's good. You're going to have some, you're going to have some breakdowns mentally and emotionally and psychologically and other ways. That seems to me almost unavoidable. Fred, go ahead.
Fred Jackson: Yeah, well, at our story meeting this morning, I, compared it. Just stop and think for a moment. Let's say you work in a manufacturing field. You work at a given plant somewhere. Can you imagine that? You're not allowed to leave that plant for nine months.
Tim Wildmon: Right.
Fred Jackson: You can't go to town, you can't get off. You could leave the plant to go get Kentucky Fried Chicken. You know, just, just think about that. You can't see your family.
Tim Wildmon: Right.
Fred Jackson: You're separated from, you know, your loved ones, your kids.
Tim Wildmon: And that was part of the story.
Fred Jackson: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: That the families of these sailors, not all of them m. Have appealed to the Pentagon to let these guys have some, let these guys, port that these guys are come home just
Fred Jackson: to take a two week break somewhere along the way. Now we're checking with some of our military people. The newsroom is. We want to do a story on this. You're right. I, mean, when you join the Navy, you understand you're going to be aboard ship for extended periods of time. Submarines for extended periods of time. That's the job description. But this goes well beyond that. Nine months. Think about that. Nine months aboard ship, not getting a break. So, it's tough, you know, and the military can be a very tough life, very tough on families. But normally under normal conditions, they get a break, they get to go home with their family for a while. And you know, there's maintenance things that have to be done on ships that can only be done when it's at shore. So there's all of these complications because there are reports that certain things aboard the ship aren't working as well as they should. So there's a lot to this.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah. When I first read this story, the story was about some of the sailors on this aircraft carrier basically having temporary Insanity and jumping off the ship. And I guess there's more than one, right? Multiple. But it's not a lot. But.
Chris Woodward: Yeah, it's not like all 5,000.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, but some of them are. But, anyway, that's a story. So to your point, Chris we need to pray specifically for this situation. Cause, you know, I was stunned when I learned they hadn't been to port. Because I was thinking, can they not port at Dubai or somewhere over there and get a break? And do we not have a secondary aircraft carrier that can take its place? Those are just logistical questions that I have. I'm sure there are answers to that, and reasons why that can't take place or hasn't taken place, but I don't know what the facts are on that. We'll be back with Bishop E.W. jackson after this short time out.
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American Family Radio Network welcomes Bishop E.W. jackson to Today's Issues
Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues here on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening. Tim, Fred and Chris are here. We're in studio. And joining us, from, Virginia is Bishop E.W. jackson. Bishop has been on AFR for a long, long time, and he's got The Awakening with E.W. jackson podcast now, which we have, at our website, afr.net, afr.net Good morning, brother.
Bishop EW Jackson: Good morning, Tim. Great to be with you.
Tim Wildmon: Hey, you live in, is it Chesapeake area? Where do you live?
Bishop EW Jackson: I do live in that area. Our church is in Chesapeake? As a matter of fact.
Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah. What church is that? If people want to.
Bishop EW Jackson: Oh, it's the Carl Church, and we're at 943 Canal Dr. In Chesapeake. Services are Sunday mornings at 11am do
Tim Wildmon: you preach every Sunday?
Bishop EW Jackson: I preach every Sunday. Well, about 90% of the time I'm there. Occasionally, of course, I'm away on a Sunday morning, but most of the time I'm there, yes.
Tim Wildmon: Right. Well, so folks traveling and they want to drop by your church, they're welcome, right?
Bishop EW Jackson: Oh, absolutely. Please come. In fact, you know, I've suggested even if you live in Alaska, fly on in for Sunday morning service.
Tim Wildmon: That's commitment right there, huh? All right. that's commitment. You're flying. Anyway, well, thanks, Peter.
The Smithsonian put Margaret Sanger in a civil rights display last year
What were you, what were you on Fox News about last week? It was all over the place.
Bishop EW Jackson: It was. It was about the Smithsonian situation, and I'd had some experience with them because, as you know, several years ago they put Margaret Sanger in the civil rights display of the, of the portrait gallery, the museum. And, and we organized, ah, me and a number of other people organized to protest against that and said, she, that's not where she belongs. So they've been, they've been left leaning for a long, long time. We finally got them to remove her, but it was a battle. They didn't want to do it. And, so when this came up, this issue of, of the director of the museum, promoting all this woke stuff and, you know, politeness is white supremacy, and history's purpose is to promote social justice. I made a comment, in an interview, and I guess it did kind of go viral. But, yeah, because I was insulted by this stuff. These people are supposed to be promoting an accurate and factual view of American history, are instead using it sort of the Howard Zinn model, which is use American history to try to denigrate and embitter people and divide people and anger people and convince them that America is just the worst country in the world. I've had enough of it, I guess.
Tim Wildmon: So, yeah, it went viral. Good for you.
Fred Jackson: Why would they want to tear down this country
And that's why we wanted you to come on and tell us about what the objections were to the Smithsonian. Fred, what were you going to ask?
Fred Jackson: Fred here, Bishop M. Jackson. It's great to talk to you again. What is the agenda here? Why would they want to tear down this country? This country that has given the freedoms that they enjoy, the positions that they
Tim Wildmon: enjoy, the woke crowd generally, and the woke Smithsonian?
Fred Jackson: Why would you want to, destroy the very country that has done so much for you?
Bishop EW Jackson: Yeah, well, you know, Fred, good to talk to you, too. you know, look, I just. I'm doing something called the Truth Tour. I'm, going around speaking at churches and other places and talking about. But facts about American history you were never taught. Giving people an accurate picture of our history. And I argue that one of the problems is that if you're indoctrinated from kindergarten through high school and then further indoctrinated in college, by the time you get out into the world, you are so thoroughly brainwashed that you think you're doing the country a favor by pointing out, frankly, that it really needs to be overthrown. It needs to be overturned. It needs to be fundamentally transformed, because that's what they've been taught. Howard Zinn has been one of the sources of this material. And I point out, for example, he's got. He's dead, of course, but he's got a program called the Zinn Education Project. They're still sending materials out to public schools around the country. A fourth grade curriculum, for example, teaches children in fourth grade that America's immigration policy has been one of, racial exclusions, ah, kidnappings, mass kidnappings, and racial expulsions. Now that's what they're teaching fourth graders. So if you go through a curriculum like that your entire educational life, I mean, no wonder so many people are all messed up about American history. They're not being taught, you know, how inventive, how productive, how creative a nation we've been, and how we've raised the standard of living for more people than any other nation on Earth. How we've advanced the cause of human dignity more than any other nation on Earth. I mean, they don't talk about that. Then we'll talk about politeness. It's white supremacy. I mean, I'm thinking. Well, I guess my dad had no idea that when he taught me matters, he was teaching me to be a white supremacist. I mean, it's just. Yeah, it's.
Ed Vitagliano: It's.
Bishop EW Jackson: It's toxic, you know?
Tim Wildmon: What's what? I mentioned this before. I guess if you do a radio show five days a week, you do mention things over. You guys have been there, right?
Bishop EW Jackson: Oh, yeah.
Tim Wildmon: So if I'm repeating myself and you've heard this already, Then you'll just have to listen to it again. I was gonna apologize, but what good does that do? Because I'm about to do it anyway. So here's the thing. The political left in this country, they have been using the. They want to paint America, modern day America, as systemically racist.
Bishop EW Jackson: Yep.
Tim Wildmon: Right. Okay, if that's true, why do these same people want people to pour into our country undocumented, without legal right? Why? Why would you want people to come to a systemically racist country? Would not you be warning them? No. Stay away from these, from this place, because it's the worst place on earth for you. You need to go somewhere else or stay in your home country, because otherwise you're going to be experiencing, racism like you've never seen before. So I know my tongue's over here poking through my cheek, but go ahead, Bishop. Why are these same people that just seem like to be talking out both sides of your mouth right there.
Bishop EW Jackson: Because in reality, they don't care about black people, or what as they call it, people of color. And they don't care about social justice. They care about power. And the logic to always look for is what gets them what they want and keeps them where they want. Because, I mean, that's how you get people who. They will support these radical, crazy candidates until it becomes clear that maybe that candidate might be a problem and can't win. And suddenly they're not in favor of that candidate anymore. Because power is. Is the thing. And that's why they want to bring all these people in. Because they're interested in taking over this country and transforming it into their own wicked, Marxist, godless image. And, that's why they don't. If this country were truly unjust, they stupid. They wouldn't care. Come on in. Because, you know, I say it's like, It's like the line in Paradise Lost, Jon Milton's Paradise Lost, where he says, satan says, better to rule in hell than serve in heaven. And I think that that's their attitude. They'd rather rule over a chaotic, anarchic, destructive nation with them in charge, than have what we've had, which is the most prosperous and fruitful and productive nation in the world.
Tim Ferriss: Slavery started with America, not Europe or Asia
Tim Wildmon: Yeah, you know, we mentioned this before, too, and you've talked about it. you know, if you want, we. If you want to talk about real American history. And there's no other kind than real, You tell the whole story, right? And, the whole story, from the very beginning, you Know, we had our War of Independence to get rid of the King's oppression. And then, the Southern states, a few of the Southern states, maybe, I don't know how many of them wanted to maintain slavery because it was economically prosperous for them. small, small percentage of citizens of those states actually owned slaves which were, transported from Africa. So that is a true part of American history. And it was awful, it was terrible. But you know what? we had a civil war. And Steven McDowell of the Providence foundation talks about, he thinks one of God's judgments on America at that time was the Civil War to allow the civil, a judgment against slavery. But here's what. So we came through that, then we came through, the Jim Crow and then we came to the civil rights era. So eventually, Dr. Martin Luther King, for example, appealing to the white majority Christian America, hey, this is wrong. We've got to change this. And he was successful. He wasn't alone. But I'm talking about, and I know he had his moral failures himself, but his message was, hey, we've got to make things right in America for everybody. And he was, a Baptist preacher. So, I'm just saying that that's the real story. Now we look to modern day America and we've seen for many, for decades now, we've had equal opportunity for everybody. Black, white, Hispanic, Asian, whatever you can do anything you want to in the US Everybody can vote, everybody can participate in society. Shouldn't we celebrate that instead of always going back to, one thing, that you can cite is okay, yes, but, well, he's gonna go, yes, but we had this forever. And that's your answer for everything when we bring up the successes. And like you said, we're the most prosperous, by the way, generous, freedom loving, freedom protecting country in the history of the world. We are the envy of the world economically. There's so much to celebrate about our Judeo Christian heritage and capitalism and the promotion of education and civil rights and all those things which make America great. and that's one of the reasons President Trump won with his message, which was brilliant in 2016, was Make America great again. In other words, we're getting away from what made our country great. Let's get back to it. so anyway, thank you, Bishop, for speaking out on this specifically about what the Smithsonian, museums were doing. so what's coming up on the Awakening on your next podcast?
Bishop EW Jackson: Well, let me just add one other thing, Tim, and that is this. You know, the Other thing nobody ever mentions is that African slavery didn't start with America or Europe. It started in Africa.
Tim Wildmon: Oh, yes, it did. Slavery started with America.
Bishop EW Jackson: Right. Exactly right. As Tim Cain, our rather intellectually, challenged senator up here, America didn't inherit slavery. America invented it.
Tim Wildmon: I mean, oh, my gosh.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: How about read history in the Bible? Oh, my God. Children of Israel.
Chris Woodward: That's why people say, bless your heart.
Tim Wildmon: You know, people like you're saying, you know, this is. It's like the American, like the only place in history or slavery. People have enslaved, people because of sin and the fall of man since the dawn of time. And you know what? probably the vast majority of slavery over history hasn't had to do with color.
Bishop EW Jackson: No.
Tim Wildmon: Or hasn't ethnicity. It had to do with maybe ethnicity, some, but it had more to do with one. One tribe conquered another tribe. And they could both be white in Europe, or they could both be black in Africa, or they could both be Asian or Chinese in China. But over through history, they. The Mongolians, for. I mean, it's just one after another of, conquering one people and putting them in bondage and slavery. So they never want to talk about the history of slavery in an accurate way. It's just always, the early Americans. Go ahead.
Bishop EW Jackson: I've summarized that by saying it's not the skin, it's the sin. And you're exactly right. This whole serf system in Europe, Europeans enslaving other Europeans.
Chris Woodward: Right.
Bishop EW Jackson: And that was so.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but there were whites on whites right there.
Bishop EW Jackson: That's exactly right.
Tim Wildmon: So, I mean, that's going on for. That's going on for, all time. Go ahead, Fred.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Bishop: Democrat Socialists of America making headway with young people
While we got you on the line here, I've got to ask you this question. I want you to give us an assessment of the Democrat Socialists of America. They're making headway. How far, Bishop, do you think this group is going to go?
Bishop EW Jackson: Well, I think the best hope we have is that, even Democrats with some common sense will say, wait a minute, I didn't sign on for this. I mean, when you start talking about what we need to do away with Thanksgiving and. And we need to get rid of police. And, oh, and by the way, we don't need prisons. What happens when a member of my family is raped and murdered? What do you do? Well, we don't want to talk about hypotheticals. We just don't need prisons. We don't need police. I mean, I think the more they talk, I think the more Americans are going to wake up. But there's no question that they're making some headway, particularly with young people, because young people like idealism, and this sounds very ideal, but somebody needs to wake them up to the fact that they're being sold an ideology that has killed more people, starved more people, enslaved more people, tortured more people than any ideology that's ever hit the face of the earth. So I hope that the young people will wake up, too.
Tim M. King: What's coming up on Awakening podcast this week
Tim Wildmon: All right, brother, what's coming up on your, the Awakening podcast this week?
Bishop EW Jackson: You know, I'm going to be talking. Well, actually, today's, today is Thursday. Yes. Did they. Well, yesterday's posted, and it's on there now.
Tim Wildmon: Okay.
Bishop EW Jackson: And of course, I'm talking about these very subjects that we just talked about. the rise of socialism, talking about this whole transgender issue that seems to just like a. Like a nasty little infection that doesn't want to go away. and talking about that and how we as Americans have got to stop draw the line in homosexuality, because by opening that floodgate, this is what we get, and there's no telling where it takes us. So those kinds of subjects.
Tim Wildmon: Hey, how old are you?
Bishop EW Jackson: did you say how old am I?
Tim Wildmon: How old are you?
Bishop EW Jackson: Oh, I'm 74.
Tim Wildmon: Wow, you're. You're like the Energizer Bunni, man. I'm 63, and I'm tired just listening to you. You're amazing. You're an amazing, You're amazing guy, and we're just proud to have you on our, American Family Radio, network.
Bishop EW Jackson: Tim M. I'm honored. I'm honored to be associated with you and with American Family Radio and the whole family here. So than, guys, for having me.
Tim Wildmon: All right, take care. Have a good day. See you, too. That's Bishop. We never did get around EW what that stood for. But next time, the mystery remains.
Chris Woodward: Oh, I can tell you.
Tim Wildmon: Oh, what is it? Okay, You've been doing a research on. You've been doing a background check on our guest, Chris Yeah. listen, Bishop, go ahead.
Chris Woodward: Do you. Do you want to know?
Tim Wildmon: Yeah, go ahead.
Chris Woodward: Drum roll, please. Yeah, Bishop. Earl Walker Jackson.
Tim Wildmon: hey, that's. That sound like Texas Walker Ranger almost.
Chris Woodward: That's why you put me in the big popcorn bag, Tim.
Tim Wildmon: All right, so that's. That's a. That's a great name right there. It's a distinguished name.
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New York Times asks whether letting kids play alone outside should be a crime
Chris Woodward: Chris this topic sounds like a joke, but it is not. There is a NewSong York Times article out there and this is the headline. Should letting children play alone outside be a crime? The NewSong York Times is questioning whether or not kids riding their bikes, going to the parks, doing things unsupervised outside like we've all done. They're wondering whether or not that should be considered a crime now.
Tim Wildmon: No, no, it shouldn't be considered a crime. Although I will say, in today's world, I wouldn't let my kid roam out, unless I absolutely knew the, knew the neighborhood. Without knowing exactly where they are and what they're doing, it isn't like the world has changed. so to that extent I see what they're talking about, but I think they're talking about government control of parenting. To a crazy, degree.
Chris Woodward: Yes. And it's not hyperbole for you to say that because we've talked about it on the show, we've aired the sound bites from people saying things like our kids.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: But you know what I'm saying, just be careful. And parents are today, most parents are. Today. You're careful about what your kids are doing, where they're going, what, in terms of their safety. Yeah, but go ahead.
Fred Jackson: And I understand, I mean, if, if the family is living in NewSong York City, I would be worried about my kids being outside. How, you know, it's kind of sad the. When I think of the great freedoms that I had growing up as a kid.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Fred Jackson: Yeah. I, you know, I, I grew up on a farm.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Fred Jackson: And you leave home in the morning and you come back and for lunch and then you go again. And my mom, you know, we had a big harbor in front of our house and then we had woods in behind.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Fred Jackson: We had a great time.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Fred Jackson: But it was such a great world
Tim Wildmon: to grow up in.
Fred Jackson: It was, it was fantastic. But I understand what you're saying, Tim. The world has changed.
Tim Wildmon: It's changed.
Fred Jackson: And you have to be concerned about who's on the street out there right now and why are they standing over there? Why are they staring at my kids. I understand all that.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I was like you. I didn't grow. I grew up in a town, small town, but not the countryside. But still, this would be in the 60s and 70s. You would be. Ride your bike anywhere you wanted to go. And the whole, subdivision and you might say, I'll be home for lunch or whatever, but that's it. Otherwise you're out playing with all your buddies and friends.
Fred Jackson: Here was the other thing too. Is that the neighbor parents, the neighbor moms? Yeah, every, everybody was a mom for the neighbor.
Tim Wildmon: That's true.
Fred Jackson: You know, so when you go play it in your friend's yard, that mom became your supervisor.
Tim Wildmon: Right, right.
Fred Jackson: And it was just real community.
Tim Wildmon: Only thing I required. I needed my bicycle because. Yeah, you walk, but you don't want to walk too far from home. But man, yeah, those are, those were some good times in America.
Chris Woodward: I remember when I started to drive. I got my license in 1998. And I remember somewhere around the year 99, 2000, I remember thinking, man, these gas prices are expensive. I used to ride everywhere for free on my bike. And this is back when gas was like a $9, right? not, not anywhere near level, levels of today. But yeah, I rode my bike a good.
Chris, what was your favorite outside game as a kid
Tim Wildmon: All right, all right, since we're talking about this, what was your favorite outside game?
Fred Jackson: Favorite outside game. Depending on the time of the year with your friends. Wintertime skating, ice hockey.
Tim Wildmon: Okay. Yeah, like on the lake.
Fred Jackson: Well, that harbor in front of us froze over. when I was growing up, it froze deep. They used to have horse, racing on it and cars.
Tim Wildmon: Wait, hold on a second.
Fred Jackson: Yeah, the ice was a foot and a half.
Tim Wildmon: Horse racing on ice.
Fred Jackson: Oh, absolutely. You, you change the shoes on the horse. So the shoes had spikes. Wow.
Tim Wildmon: And I never heard of this before.
Fred Jackson: The farmers. The farmers had horses and, and the prize for winning the race was, every farmer put a bag of feed in. So if you had six horses, you
Tim Wildmon: win the feed, you win six bags of feed.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: Okay. I just, I gotta look this up. So do they still, do they still ice race or.
Fred Jackson: The harbor hasn't frozen that depth in years where I grew up. But I remember, remember watching it and cars would be out there.
Tim Wildmon: There were some brutal winters in the 60s and 70s where I lived there.
Fred Jackson: Sure was.
Tim Wildmon: I remember the Ohio seeing the Ohio river freeze over. Of course it's froze over since then, but we had a winter here in in north Mississippi in probably the mid-70s that lakes, froze Yeah, I mean, it was. It was pretty brutal.
Fred Jackson: That's cold.
Tim Wildmon: And of course, we know from Al Gore what's happened, you know, so, you know. Anyway, but what was it?
Fred Jackson: So, summertime, would be. We'd. We'd, In the farmer's field somewhere, we'd set up some bases.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Play baseball.
Fred Jackson: Play baseball.
Tim Wildmon: All right.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: Chris what was your favorite game outside as a kid?
Chris Woodward: We played football, sometimes on, like, a lot near the, school building.
Tim Wildmon: Play two hand touch or tackle.
Chris Woodward: Tackle.
Tim Wildmon: And, if you want to see something funny that, go out and watch kids play tackle football without pads when they're seven years old.
Chris Woodward: Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then also, my brothers and I, we would sometimes go out after dark with laser tag guns, and my older brother would always dominate us. And I didn't find out until years later that he was, unbeknownst to our parents, climbing on top of the house and then, like, shooting us from an elevated level. And, that's. That's why he was always good at that.
Tim Wildmon: We had a game called Kick the Can. Okay. Are you familiar with this one?
Fred Jackson: Kick the can.
Tim Wildmon: Kick the can. All you needed was, like, a 7Up or Dr. Pepper can.
Chris Woodward: That's what the government does now. They kick the can.
Tim Wildmon: that's, I don't know if that's where kicking. That isn't where kicking the can came down.
Chris Woodward: No, that's just the metaphor.
Tim Wildmon: Kicking the can down the road. But it was. Yeah. Kick the can, put it in the front of the house. I forgot all the.
Fred Jackson: The rules.
Tim Wildmon: I forgot how to play. I tried to play today. I'd throw out my back.
Chris Woodward: So.
Tim Wildmon: We'll be back in a minute. Stay with us.
Today's Issues offers a Christian response to the issues of the day
Welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR. Today is August 13, 2026, and in studio with me today is Fred Jackson. Good morning, Fred.
Fred Jackson: Good morning. Happy Thursday.
Tim Wildmon: Well, happy Thursday to you too, my friend. And, Chris Woodward.
Chris Woodward: Hello.
Tim Wildmon: we three will be handling the show today, but we're going to have some guests coming up, aren't we?
Fred Jackson: Absolutely. And one that, our audience very familiar with, Bishop E.W. jackson, just appreciate him so much. And he'll, be joining us around 10:30 or so.
Tim Wildmon: We're going to talk to him about what AW stands for.
Chris Woodward: I was this. I was today years old this week when I found out what it stands for.
Fred Jackson: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: So Bishop E.W. jackson, he also does a podcast for us here on American Family Radio. We'll let him talk about that. But he was on Fox, News last weekend. Right. Talking about the 250th anniversary of our country. And do you know the topic there?
Fred Jackson: Yeah, I think he was asked about what was going on. Remember there was quite, a bit of controversy in the last 10 days or so. The head of the Smithsonian, Institute.
Tim Wildmon: That's right.
Fred Jackson: She was before a Senate hearing and she faced some pretty tough questions about the wokeness, some of the displays at the Smithsonian. She didn't apologize for it, but there was an interview with Bishop Jackson about that. Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: Okay.
Fred Jackson: So, needless to say he didn't, agree.
Tim Wildmon: I think what the essence of it is is that the woke side is putting, very much an overemphasis, from a historically historical perspective on, the bad parts of American history.
Fred Jackson: Yeah, yeah.
Tim Wildmon: And there's there are bad parts to American history, namely slavery.
Fred Jackson: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: But there's a wonderful, ongoing and enduring story about America, our country and what we overcame.
Fred Jackson: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: And the, what we have today.
Fred Jackson: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: So I, think Bishop Jackson, you know, as an African American man himself.
Fred Jackson: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: Wanted to speak to that. So we will be talking to him about, that and other things coming up at the bottom of the hour. You're listening to today's issue. Does he call himself an African American?
Fred Jackson: He, he may.
Tim Wildmon: He's a black fella.
Fred Jackson: He's a. He's a black fellow.
Tim Wildmon: He's a black fella. He's a. I love dearly who's a Christian brother. He's a Christian brother. But I'm talking about in this context, you know, if I'm called a European American, I go, what are you talking about? I'm a white guy.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: You know, so I'm wondering if some African American, black folks feel like, I'm not from Africa. I'm from America.
Fred Jackson: I love Bishop Jackson. I used to fill in for him when he had his program on the network, and he referred to me as his brother of a different color.
Chris Woodward: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: All right.
Chris Woodward: I prefer short, tan, and seasoned.
Tim Wildmon: Oh, well, yes, Chris that fits you perfectly. Short, tanned, and what now?
Chris Woodward: Seasoned for my hair.
Tim Wildmon: Oh, seasoned. I got you. Okay. All right, so we look forward to visiting with, our brother, E.W. jackson, coming up at the bottom of the hour.
White House press secretary Caroline Levitt is leaving to spend more time with children
what's first on the news, cycle there, Chris?
Chris Woodward: Yeah. We're going to go back to yesterday afternoon when news broke that White House press secretary Caroline Levitt is resigning as press secret secretary for The White House. 27 years old. She is the youngest White House press secretary in the history of press secretaries. But she wants to, spend more time with her children and her husband. There she is. What's that?
Tim Wildmon: She has one child.
Chris Woodward: She's got two.
Tim Wildmon: She has two now.
Fred Jackson: She had two this year, and they're both under two years of age.
Chris Woodward: She had one just a few months.
Tim Wildmon: Apologies. Chris you're the newsman. You had the facts.
Bishop EW Jackson: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: I didn't realize that other child escaped me.
Chris Woodward: I was there in the delivery room, reporting.
Tim Wildmon: Okay, so she has two children now under. She had a baby. I knew she had a baby, but she's got another one.
Fred Jackson: Yeah, yeah, she had one, early last year. I believe it was early 24 maybe.
Chris Woodward: Early on. Yeah, she was a new mom when she came on in this position, and then she had one just a few months ago.
Fred Jackson: Yep. And her husband is 60 years of age.
Chris Woodward: Yes.
Fred Jackson: So, you can kind of understand why Caroline, would like to take a break from that very intense job that she's had at the White House, Take a break from that. Spend time with her, her two kids, and her husband.
Chris Woodward: Yeah. So this news caught everybody by surprise. I think even Fox News, they were quick to send Jackie Heinrich over to the White House because Jackie Heinrich is one of the many Fox News reporters that's in the press briefings when Caroline Levitt is fielding questions and giving all kinds of answers to reporters. Jackie Heinrich praised Caroline Levitt, saying she's been very easy to work with and much better than the press secretary in the previous administration. Clip 8.
Tim Wildmon: Very accessible. And in the room with the president, as opposed to, under the Biden administration, for example, when we would try to get answers from Karine Jean Pierre often, it was apparent that she wasn't as close to the decision makers and able to give us valuable information as Caroline has been in her time here.
Chris Woodward: so.
Bishop EW Jackson: So this is going to be a
Tim Wildmon: big loss for this White House.
Chris Woodward: We don't know officially who the replacement will be. Sometimes people that are in a deputy press secretary position get the promotion. The president is fully within his rights to look outside the White House and find somebody to replace. Or we shall see.
Tim Wildmon: Well, I tell you what, President Trump has done an excellent job, hiring, these press secretaries that he's had because they're all five stars going back to now. Sean's. What was the guy's name? The first one?
Chris Woodward: Spicer.
Tim Wildmon: He wasn't around long.
Fred Jackson: No, no, he was short.
Tim Wildmon: I'm talking about in 2016. Right. But then, Sarah Huckabee Sanders took over.
Fred Jackson: She did a great job.
Tim Wildmon: She did a great job. And then next, up was, Kayleigh McEnany. Kaylee McEnany. And, she was. She and Sarah were equally as good, in my opinion.
Chris Woodward: I think, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the fact that she was on television pretty much every day, that aided her. When it came to her campaign in Arkansas for governor, people saw that she could handle the job.
Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Caroline Levitt has impressed me as White House press secretary
And now Carolyn Levin. Now we lose track of time. How long has President Trump actually been in office this term?
Chris Woodward: he entered January 20th of 2025. A year and a half.
Tim Wildmon: A year and a half. Roughly a year and a half. I don't know what the average tenure is for a White House press secretary, but I'm guessing two years is probably about the average, wouldn't you say?
Fred Jackson: It's a tough job.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Fred Jackson: Caroline, Levitt just has impressed me for such a young person. Is she 30, 27, 28 years old? She ran for office.
Chris Woodward: She did. She ran for a congressional seat.
Fred Jackson: Was it in, Was it. I trying to think. Was it NewSong Hampshire, one of the NewSong England states?
Chris Woodward: I'll look it up for you.
Fred Jackson: Yeah, she ran for office. She. Obviously, she didn't win, but she was part of the MAGA movement. And then, of course, when the president got elected, that she moved in. And for such a young person to handle the fireworks that often erupted in that, briefing room, I mean, she faced some really tough questions. She never got ratt Rattled. She never got rattled. I never saw that young lady rattled by the, you know, from the CNN reporters and the NewSong York Times reporters, that sort of thing. Some really kind of pointed, forcefully delivered questions and she was really cool. So, boy, I'm not sure how long she plans to retire, but you know, she could come back at 40 years of age when her kids are 20 years old and do another great job.
Chris Woodward: It was NewSong Hampshire, by the way.
Fred Jackson: To answer the question.
Tim Wildmon: Okay, you can't be press secretary, White House press secretary with two children under two. And then she got a nanny. and Caroline Levitz doesn't strike me as a nanny type. She's hands on with her kids. So anyway, good for her. Pray for her.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: Her new family. Yeah. Her husband's like my age, isn't he?
Fred Jackson: He's 60 years old.
Tim Wildmon: He's 60.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: She's 20, 27 or 28. That's a pretty big, wide, age.
Fred Jackson: It is. And you know, I was thinking about this last night. I can understand, yes, she wants to spend more time with her kids, but she also said, I want to spend more time with my husband.
Tim Wildmon: Right.
Fred Jackson: Because you just stop and think these, these kids are growing up and you know, they'll become teenagers, but he's going to be in. So she wants to spend time as a family right now.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Fred Jackson: when everybody's healthy and wish her the best.
Former Southern Poverty Law center official charged with wire fraud, money laundering
Tim Wildmon: What's next story Chris A former
Chris Woodward: Southern Poverty Law center official has been charged in the DOJ's broader criminal case against the Alabama based civil rights group. A lawyer for the ex official said yesterday 59 year old Heidi Byrick of Palm Springs, California served as the SBLC's chief financial officer and she is charged with wire fraud conspiracy, conspiracy to submit false statements to a federally insured bank and conspiracy to commit concealment money laundering. she's charged in the DOJ's existing case against the SBLC in Montgomery, Alabama. I have some audio here from our new U.S. attorney General Todd Blanche.
Tim Wildmon: Clip 12 believe she was part of
Fred Jackson: the effort to open bank accounts and completely fictitious companies names and make payments that to individuals for reasons that were not, that they were not accurate as described.
Chris Woodward: If you're new to us as a ministry, and this show earlier this year we played sound from Todd Blanche and others talking about how they had uncovered evidence showing that the SPLC was funding the extremism they claim to be fighting. And this is part of that broader, investigation.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Most people know the SPLC is a group out of Montgomery, Alabama. And they, their self appointed task basically is to point out hate groups across America and they alone get to decide what a hate group is. And it's always, it's almost always conservative groups. That's their, you know, for one reason or another. So. But what they were, what they're charged with is, is, writing checks to hate groups so that hate groups continue to do their work so that the SPLC can cite those hate groups and thereby raise money off of the hate that the groups are doing. Does that make, that make. That doesn't make sense. But it does. That's what, that's what's going on. It doesn't make. You wouldn't think, well, why would, why would a group that's opposing something fun, that very thing they say they oppose? Well, that is a good question. I mean, who does that? but, what you got. But this group, the splc, they kind of need a reason to exist today because, they cite us as a hate group.
Chris Woodward: They do.
Tim Wildmon: And we're on there eternally. There's nothing you can do or not do that would get you off their list. And also, in addition to their. Anyway, that's what the Justice Department is charging them with. And wire fraud, I guess is they're saying that this. Was she the cfo.
Chris Woodward: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: Okay. That she was. Her name was on the money, on the quote, checks, end quote, for the wire frauding to. And this wasn't just one person, this was several, people inside the hate groups that they were opposed to that they were sending money to.
Chris Woodward: Yeah. And they cla. They have claimed, no wrongdoing. They have claimed that they're being unfairly targeted by the Trump administration.
Tim Wildmon: Well, we're being unfairly targeted by the splc, but whatever.
Chris Bishop: SPLC used list to determine who was a hate group
Chris Woodward: Speaking of administrations, there when this story broke months ago, and we brought in the audio from Blanche and others, there were reports at that time that SPLC officials had been to the White House many times when Joe Biden was president. And I bring that up because hardly a month went by without us airing a sound bite of President Joe Biden, then President Biden saying white extremism is the most dangerous thing in America during
Tim Wildmon: the, Obama years. And I'm not. It may have been true during Biden's four years, but during the Obama years, the, United States Justice Department, the United States military, Pentagon and others in the federal government were using the list that the SPLC provided them to determine who was a hate group. Yeah. And so I remember getting Calls from, National Guardsmen and from also from people, in state police offices calling us, saying, hey, I'm being subjected to a video that's supposed to be a training, video to warn us about the hate groups in America. And American Family association is in the video that's being produced by the splc that's being used by the federal government to warn their employees about groups like ours. Yeah. Of course.
Tim Wildmon: You combine that with, what went on with the Internal Revenue Service during the Obama administration when, they. Lois Lerner was her name. And it was, learned that the IRS was denying nonprofit status to groups based on their, names and their conservative, principles.
Fred Jackson: Yeah, Tea Party groups.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah, they were being. And so they were being. It's not the IRS's job to decide whether the politics or the policies that a group advocates for is worthy of a tax exempt status. All they're supposed to do is process. so. And you do have to provide information, a, mission statement and financials and all these things, but you don't. But they were denying the, Biden. Excuse me, Under Obama, the IRS was denying, the nonprofit status groups based on their politics and based on their worldview and what they advocated for. But what was interesting, you also remember Lois Lerner, the IRS chief under Obama was called to testify and she pulled a fauci.
Fred Jackson: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: She said, fifth, Amendment. I plead the Fifth Amendment again. That's the first time I'd ever heard me personally, the Fifth Amendment being used by a civil servant to not answer questions from the people that are. To oversee her job performance. Yeah, I, mean, that's. I don't know what all the legal technicalities are, but that should not be allowed if you are a federal government or a state government. But if you're a federal government employee and you oversee a agency and you're called so the tax dollars. Right, right. Provided by the US Citizen. And you're called to testify before a congressional committee to answer questions about what your agency is doing or not doing or how you're operating, you should not be able to say, I ain't answering that. Now, if you want to say I don't know, or if you want to say, you know what? Stall out, say, I'll get back to you on that. They do that all the time. But. But to say I plead the Fifth Amendment means that suggests that what you were doing was illegal.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: And you don't want to own up to it. So. Yeah, that's what Dr. Fauci did. How many times?
Chris Woodward: Oh, 111 times.
Fred Jackson: 111 times. And of course, the difference was, is that Foushee has this blanket pardon for anything he did for what, from 2015.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Biden gave him a pardon when Biden was leaving the White House for 10 years or something like. And you're going like, why do you, why do you, why do you have to pardon, a guy before he's even testify? I don't. Unless you think he's guilty of something.
Fred Jackson: But you know, Tim, it's really interesting how the Democrats today are talking about, Trump is weaponizing the Justice Department and all of that. You talk about weaponizing the federal government against your political enemies.
Tim Wildmon: Right.
Fred Jackson: You know, what Obama did and what Joe Biden did during their years in the White House. and of course, the mainstream media covered for them, as they often do. They were on their side because the mainstream media doesn't like conservatives.
Tim Wildmon: Right.
Chris Woodward: How they leave that out when it's there.
Tim Wildmon: Yes, you're listening to Today's issues. Bishop E.W. jackson will be with us at the bottom of the hour. Next, Next story. Chris
Multiple Navy sailors reportedly tried to jump overboard as deployment is extended indefinitely
Chris Woodward: Alright, Many Christians and their churches make it a point to pray for military service members. We pray for their health and their safety, for them to have victory. and I bring that up because we should be in prayer for sailors on board the USS Abraham Lincoln. There are reports today, and I shared this in our Today's Issues Facebook page, multiple US Navy sailors have reportedly tried to jump overboard from the USS Lincoln as their deployment in the Middle east is extended indefinitely. Roughly 5,000 sailors and Marines remain onboard the aircraft carrier almost nine months on from when their deployment first began on November 21st. They had been scheduled to return home in May, but authorities extended the deployment indefinitely amid the ongoing conflict with Iran.
Tim Wildmon: Okay, so let me get this straight. Just the facts of this situation here. I saw that story. we have the USS Abraham Lincoln is a aircraft carrier.
Chris Woodward: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: That, has 5,000 sailors aboard. Right? Correct.
Fred Jackson: So that's a small city.
Tim Wildmon: It's a small city, yeah.
Chris Woodward: It's bigger than my hometown by twice, twice as much.
Tim Wildmon: Okay. So they, that, that, ship was supposed to come to Norfolk and be back to the U.S. this is, before the Iranian conflict.
Chris Woodward: Oh, it's actually, they were scheduled to be back in May, so we had already been bombing them.
Tim Wildmon: So they were out to sea. Correct me if I'm wrong, they were out to sea and then they were told, you're, you're not coming back to Norfolk, you're being dispatched to the Strait of Hormuz or that area. Right? Yes, the, was that Indian Ocean area. and so they've been there, they've been out to sea nine months.
Fred Jackson: Nine months, yeah.
Tim Wildmon: And so without port.
Chris Woodward: Yeah, yeah. Just sitting out there in the water.
Tim Wildmon: Okay, Fred, you said. Now I know these sailors are trained, the military trains them for. And they signed up for it. So nobody's denying that. but yet still, you put 5,000 people on a ship for nine months without port. That's good. You're going to have some, you're going to have some breakdowns mentally and emotionally and psychologically and other ways. That seems to me almost unavoidable. Fred, go ahead.
Fred Jackson: Yeah, well, at our story meeting this morning, I, compared it. Just stop and think for a moment. Let's say you work in a manufacturing field. You work at a given plant somewhere. Can you imagine that? You're not allowed to leave that plant for nine months.
Tim Wildmon: Right.
Fred Jackson: You can't go to town, you can't get off. You could leave the plant to go get Kentucky Fried Chicken. You know, just, just think about that. You can't see your family.
Tim Wildmon: Right.
Fred Jackson: You're separated from, you know, your loved ones, your kids.
Tim Wildmon: And that was part of the story.
Fred Jackson: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: That the families of these sailors, not all of them m. Have appealed to the Pentagon to let these guys have some, let these guys, port that these guys are come home just
Fred Jackson: to take a two week break somewhere along the way. Now we're checking with some of our military people. The newsroom is. We want to do a story on this. You're right. I, mean, when you join the Navy, you understand you're going to be aboard ship for extended periods of time. Submarines for extended periods of time. That's the job description. But this goes well beyond that. Nine months. Think about that. Nine months aboard ship, not getting a break. So, it's tough, you know, and the military can be a very tough life, very tough on families. But normally under normal conditions, they get a break, they get to go home with their family for a while. And you know, there's maintenance things that have to be done on ships that can only be done when it's at shore. So there's all of these complications because there are reports that certain things aboard the ship aren't working as well as they should. So there's a lot to this.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah. When I first read this story, the story was about some of the sailors on this aircraft carrier basically having temporary Insanity and jumping off the ship. And I guess there's more than one, right? Multiple. But it's not a lot. But.
Chris Woodward: Yeah, it's not like all 5,000.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, but some of them are. But, anyway, that's a story. So to your point, Chris we need to pray specifically for this situation. Cause, you know, I was stunned when I learned they hadn't been to port. Because I was thinking, can they not port at Dubai or somewhere over there and get a break? And do we not have a secondary aircraft carrier that can take its place? Those are just logistical questions that I have. I'm sure there are answers to that, and reasons why that can't take place or hasn't taken place, but I don't know what the facts are on that. We'll be back with Bishop E.W. jackson after this short time out.
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American Family Radio Network welcomes Bishop E.W. jackson to Today's Issues
Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues here on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening. Tim, Fred and Chris are here. We're in studio. And joining us, from, Virginia is Bishop E.W. jackson. Bishop has been on AFR for a long, long time, and he's got The Awakening with E.W. jackson podcast now, which we have, at our website, afr.net, afr.net Good morning, brother.
Bishop EW Jackson: Good morning, Tim. Great to be with you.
Tim Wildmon: Hey, you live in, is it Chesapeake area? Where do you live?
Bishop EW Jackson: I do live in that area. Our church is in Chesapeake? As a matter of fact.
Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah. What church is that? If people want to.
Bishop EW Jackson: Oh, it's the Carl Church, and we're at 943 Canal Dr. In Chesapeake. Services are Sunday mornings at 11am do
Tim Wildmon: you preach every Sunday?
Bishop EW Jackson: I preach every Sunday. Well, about 90% of the time I'm there. Occasionally, of course, I'm away on a Sunday morning, but most of the time I'm there, yes.
Tim Wildmon: Right. Well, so folks traveling and they want to drop by your church, they're welcome, right?
Bishop EW Jackson: Oh, absolutely. Please come. In fact, you know, I've suggested even if you live in Alaska, fly on in for Sunday morning service.
Tim Wildmon: That's commitment right there, huh? All right. that's commitment. You're flying. Anyway, well, thanks, Peter.
The Smithsonian put Margaret Sanger in a civil rights display last year
What were you, what were you on Fox News about last week? It was all over the place.
Bishop EW Jackson: It was. It was about the Smithsonian situation, and I'd had some experience with them because, as you know, several years ago they put Margaret Sanger in the civil rights display of the, of the portrait gallery, the museum. And, and we organized, ah, me and a number of other people organized to protest against that and said, she, that's not where she belongs. So they've been, they've been left leaning for a long, long time. We finally got them to remove her, but it was a battle. They didn't want to do it. And, so when this came up, this issue of, of the director of the museum, promoting all this woke stuff and, you know, politeness is white supremacy, and history's purpose is to promote social justice. I made a comment, in an interview, and I guess it did kind of go viral. But, yeah, because I was insulted by this stuff. These people are supposed to be promoting an accurate and factual view of American history, are instead using it sort of the Howard Zinn model, which is use American history to try to denigrate and embitter people and divide people and anger people and convince them that America is just the worst country in the world. I've had enough of it, I guess.
Tim Wildmon: So, yeah, it went viral. Good for you.
Fred Jackson: Why would they want to tear down this country
And that's why we wanted you to come on and tell us about what the objections were to the Smithsonian. Fred, what were you going to ask?
Fred Jackson: Fred here, Bishop M. Jackson. It's great to talk to you again. What is the agenda here? Why would they want to tear down this country? This country that has given the freedoms that they enjoy, the positions that they
Tim Wildmon: enjoy, the woke crowd generally, and the woke Smithsonian?
Fred Jackson: Why would you want to, destroy the very country that has done so much for you?
Bishop EW Jackson: Yeah, well, you know, Fred, good to talk to you, too. you know, look, I just. I'm doing something called the Truth Tour. I'm, going around speaking at churches and other places and talking about. But facts about American history you were never taught. Giving people an accurate picture of our history. And I argue that one of the problems is that if you're indoctrinated from kindergarten through high school and then further indoctrinated in college, by the time you get out into the world, you are so thoroughly brainwashed that you think you're doing the country a favor by pointing out, frankly, that it really needs to be overthrown. It needs to be overturned. It needs to be fundamentally transformed, because that's what they've been taught. Howard Zinn has been one of the sources of this material. And I point out, for example, he's got. He's dead, of course, but he's got a program called the Zinn Education Project. They're still sending materials out to public schools around the country. A fourth grade curriculum, for example, teaches children in fourth grade that America's immigration policy has been one of, racial exclusions, ah, kidnappings, mass kidnappings, and racial expulsions. Now that's what they're teaching fourth graders. So if you go through a curriculum like that your entire educational life, I mean, no wonder so many people are all messed up about American history. They're not being taught, you know, how inventive, how productive, how creative a nation we've been, and how we've raised the standard of living for more people than any other nation on Earth. How we've advanced the cause of human dignity more than any other nation on Earth. I mean, they don't talk about that. Then we'll talk about politeness. It's white supremacy. I mean, I'm thinking. Well, I guess my dad had no idea that when he taught me matters, he was teaching me to be a white supremacist. I mean, it's just. Yeah, it's.
Ed Vitagliano: It's.
Bishop EW Jackson: It's toxic, you know?
Tim Wildmon: What's what? I mentioned this before. I guess if you do a radio show five days a week, you do mention things over. You guys have been there, right?
Bishop EW Jackson: Oh, yeah.
Tim Wildmon: So if I'm repeating myself and you've heard this already, Then you'll just have to listen to it again. I was gonna apologize, but what good does that do? Because I'm about to do it anyway. So here's the thing. The political left in this country, they have been using the. They want to paint America, modern day America, as systemically racist.
Bishop EW Jackson: Yep.
Tim Wildmon: Right. Okay, if that's true, why do these same people want people to pour into our country undocumented, without legal right? Why? Why would you want people to come to a systemically racist country? Would not you be warning them? No. Stay away from these, from this place, because it's the worst place on earth for you. You need to go somewhere else or stay in your home country, because otherwise you're going to be experiencing, racism like you've never seen before. So I know my tongue's over here poking through my cheek, but go ahead, Bishop. Why are these same people that just seem like to be talking out both sides of your mouth right there.
Bishop EW Jackson: Because in reality, they don't care about black people, or what as they call it, people of color. And they don't care about social justice. They care about power. And the logic to always look for is what gets them what they want and keeps them where they want. Because, I mean, that's how you get people who. They will support these radical, crazy candidates until it becomes clear that maybe that candidate might be a problem and can't win. And suddenly they're not in favor of that candidate anymore. Because power is. Is the thing. And that's why they want to bring all these people in. Because they're interested in taking over this country and transforming it into their own wicked, Marxist, godless image. And, that's why they don't. If this country were truly unjust, they stupid. They wouldn't care. Come on in. Because, you know, I say it's like, It's like the line in Paradise Lost, Jon Milton's Paradise Lost, where he says, satan says, better to rule in hell than serve in heaven. And I think that that's their attitude. They'd rather rule over a chaotic, anarchic, destructive nation with them in charge, than have what we've had, which is the most prosperous and fruitful and productive nation in the world.
Tim Ferriss: Slavery started with America, not Europe or Asia
Tim Wildmon: Yeah, you know, we mentioned this before, too, and you've talked about it. you know, if you want, we. If you want to talk about real American history. And there's no other kind than real, You tell the whole story, right? And, the whole story, from the very beginning, you Know, we had our War of Independence to get rid of the King's oppression. And then, the Southern states, a few of the Southern states, maybe, I don't know how many of them wanted to maintain slavery because it was economically prosperous for them. small, small percentage of citizens of those states actually owned slaves which were, transported from Africa. So that is a true part of American history. And it was awful, it was terrible. But you know what? we had a civil war. And Steven McDowell of the Providence foundation talks about, he thinks one of God's judgments on America at that time was the Civil War to allow the civil, a judgment against slavery. But here's what. So we came through that, then we came through, the Jim Crow and then we came to the civil rights era. So eventually, Dr. Martin Luther King, for example, appealing to the white majority Christian America, hey, this is wrong. We've got to change this. And he was successful. He wasn't alone. But I'm talking about, and I know he had his moral failures himself, but his message was, hey, we've got to make things right in America for everybody. And he was, a Baptist preacher. So, I'm just saying that that's the real story. Now we look to modern day America and we've seen for many, for decades now, we've had equal opportunity for everybody. Black, white, Hispanic, Asian, whatever you can do anything you want to in the US Everybody can vote, everybody can participate in society. Shouldn't we celebrate that instead of always going back to, one thing, that you can cite is okay, yes, but, well, he's gonna go, yes, but we had this forever. And that's your answer for everything when we bring up the successes. And like you said, we're the most prosperous, by the way, generous, freedom loving, freedom protecting country in the history of the world. We are the envy of the world economically. There's so much to celebrate about our Judeo Christian heritage and capitalism and the promotion of education and civil rights and all those things which make America great. and that's one of the reasons President Trump won with his message, which was brilliant in 2016, was Make America great again. In other words, we're getting away from what made our country great. Let's get back to it. so anyway, thank you, Bishop, for speaking out on this specifically about what the Smithsonian, museums were doing. so what's coming up on the Awakening on your next podcast?
Bishop EW Jackson: Well, let me just add one other thing, Tim, and that is this. You know, the Other thing nobody ever mentions is that African slavery didn't start with America or Europe. It started in Africa.
Tim Wildmon: Oh, yes, it did. Slavery started with America.
Bishop EW Jackson: Right. Exactly right. As Tim Cain, our rather intellectually, challenged senator up here, America didn't inherit slavery. America invented it.
Tim Wildmon: I mean, oh, my gosh.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: How about read history in the Bible? Oh, my God. Children of Israel.
Chris Woodward: That's why people say, bless your heart.
Tim Wildmon: You know, people like you're saying, you know, this is. It's like the American, like the only place in history or slavery. People have enslaved, people because of sin and the fall of man since the dawn of time. And you know what? probably the vast majority of slavery over history hasn't had to do with color.
Bishop EW Jackson: No.
Tim Wildmon: Or hasn't ethnicity. It had to do with maybe ethnicity, some, but it had more to do with one. One tribe conquered another tribe. And they could both be white in Europe, or they could both be black in Africa, or they could both be Asian or Chinese in China. But over through history, they. The Mongolians, for. I mean, it's just one after another of, conquering one people and putting them in bondage and slavery. So they never want to talk about the history of slavery in an accurate way. It's just always, the early Americans. Go ahead.
Bishop EW Jackson: I've summarized that by saying it's not the skin, it's the sin. And you're exactly right. This whole serf system in Europe, Europeans enslaving other Europeans.
Chris Woodward: Right.
Bishop EW Jackson: And that was so.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but there were whites on whites right there.
Bishop EW Jackson: That's exactly right.
Tim Wildmon: So, I mean, that's going on for. That's going on for, all time. Go ahead, Fred.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Bishop: Democrat Socialists of America making headway with young people
While we got you on the line here, I've got to ask you this question. I want you to give us an assessment of the Democrat Socialists of America. They're making headway. How far, Bishop, do you think this group is going to go?
Bishop EW Jackson: Well, I think the best hope we have is that, even Democrats with some common sense will say, wait a minute, I didn't sign on for this. I mean, when you start talking about what we need to do away with Thanksgiving and. And we need to get rid of police. And, oh, and by the way, we don't need prisons. What happens when a member of my family is raped and murdered? What do you do? Well, we don't want to talk about hypotheticals. We just don't need prisons. We don't need police. I mean, I think the more they talk, I think the more Americans are going to wake up. But there's no question that they're making some headway, particularly with young people, because young people like idealism, and this sounds very ideal, but somebody needs to wake them up to the fact that they're being sold an ideology that has killed more people, starved more people, enslaved more people, tortured more people than any ideology that's ever hit the face of the earth. So I hope that the young people will wake up, too.
Tim M. King: What's coming up on Awakening podcast this week
Tim Wildmon: All right, brother, what's coming up on your, the Awakening podcast this week?
Bishop EW Jackson: You know, I'm going to be talking. Well, actually, today's, today is Thursday. Yes. Did they. Well, yesterday's posted, and it's on there now.
Tim Wildmon: Okay.
Bishop EW Jackson: And of course, I'm talking about these very subjects that we just talked about. the rise of socialism, talking about this whole transgender issue that seems to just like a. Like a nasty little infection that doesn't want to go away. and talking about that and how we as Americans have got to stop draw the line in homosexuality, because by opening that floodgate, this is what we get, and there's no telling where it takes us. So those kinds of subjects.
Tim Wildmon: Hey, how old are you?
Bishop EW Jackson: did you say how old am I?
Tim Wildmon: How old are you?
Bishop EW Jackson: Oh, I'm 74.
Tim Wildmon: Wow, you're. You're like the Energizer Bunni, man. I'm 63, and I'm tired just listening to you. You're amazing. You're an amazing, You're amazing guy, and we're just proud to have you on our, American Family Radio, network.
Bishop EW Jackson: Tim M. I'm honored. I'm honored to be associated with you and with American Family Radio and the whole family here. So than, guys, for having me.
Tim Wildmon: All right, take care. Have a good day. See you, too. That's Bishop. We never did get around EW what that stood for. But next time, the mystery remains.
Chris Woodward: Oh, I can tell you.
Tim Wildmon: Oh, what is it? Okay, You've been doing a research on. You've been doing a background check on our guest, Chris Yeah. listen, Bishop, go ahead.
Chris Woodward: Do you. Do you want to know?
Tim Wildmon: Yeah, go ahead.
Chris Woodward: Drum roll, please. Yeah, Bishop. Earl Walker Jackson.
Tim Wildmon: hey, that's. That sound like Texas Walker Ranger almost.
Chris Woodward: That's why you put me in the big popcorn bag, Tim.
Tim Wildmon: All right, so that's. That's a. That's a great name right there. It's a distinguished name.
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New York Times asks whether letting kids play alone outside should be a crime
Chris Woodward: Chris this topic sounds like a joke, but it is not. There is a NewSong York Times article out there and this is the headline. Should letting children play alone outside be a crime? The NewSong York Times is questioning whether or not kids riding their bikes, going to the parks, doing things unsupervised outside like we've all done. They're wondering whether or not that should be considered a crime now.
Tim Wildmon: No, no, it shouldn't be considered a crime. Although I will say, in today's world, I wouldn't let my kid roam out, unless I absolutely knew the, knew the neighborhood. Without knowing exactly where they are and what they're doing, it isn't like the world has changed. so to that extent I see what they're talking about, but I think they're talking about government control of parenting. To a crazy, degree.
Chris Woodward: Yes. And it's not hyperbole for you to say that because we've talked about it on the show, we've aired the sound bites from people saying things like our kids.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: But you know what I'm saying, just be careful. And parents are today, most parents are. Today. You're careful about what your kids are doing, where they're going, what, in terms of their safety. Yeah, but go ahead.
Fred Jackson: And I understand, I mean, if, if the family is living in NewSong York City, I would be worried about my kids being outside. How, you know, it's kind of sad the. When I think of the great freedoms that I had growing up as a kid.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Fred Jackson: Yeah. I, you know, I, I grew up on a farm.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Fred Jackson: And you leave home in the morning and you come back and for lunch and then you go again. And my mom, you know, we had a big harbor in front of our house and then we had woods in behind.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Fred Jackson: We had a great time.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
Fred Jackson: But it was such a great world
Tim Wildmon: to grow up in.
Fred Jackson: It was, it was fantastic. But I understand what you're saying, Tim. The world has changed.
Tim Wildmon: It's changed.
Fred Jackson: And you have to be concerned about who's on the street out there right now and why are they standing over there? Why are they staring at my kids. I understand all that.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I was like you. I didn't grow. I grew up in a town, small town, but not the countryside. But still, this would be in the 60s and 70s. You would be. Ride your bike anywhere you wanted to go. And the whole, subdivision and you might say, I'll be home for lunch or whatever, but that's it. Otherwise you're out playing with all your buddies and friends.
Fred Jackson: Here was the other thing too. Is that the neighbor parents, the neighbor moms? Yeah, every, everybody was a mom for the neighbor.
Tim Wildmon: That's true.
Fred Jackson: You know, so when you go play it in your friend's yard, that mom became your supervisor.
Tim Wildmon: Right, right.
Fred Jackson: And it was just real community.
Tim Wildmon: Only thing I required. I needed my bicycle because. Yeah, you walk, but you don't want to walk too far from home. But man, yeah, those are, those were some good times in America.
Chris Woodward: I remember when I started to drive. I got my license in 1998. And I remember somewhere around the year 99, 2000, I remember thinking, man, these gas prices are expensive. I used to ride everywhere for free on my bike. And this is back when gas was like a $9, right? not, not anywhere near level, levels of today. But yeah, I rode my bike a good.
Chris, what was your favorite outside game as a kid
Tim Wildmon: All right, all right, since we're talking about this, what was your favorite outside game?
Fred Jackson: Favorite outside game. Depending on the time of the year with your friends. Wintertime skating, ice hockey.
Tim Wildmon: Okay. Yeah, like on the lake.
Fred Jackson: Well, that harbor in front of us froze over. when I was growing up, it froze deep. They used to have horse, racing on it and cars.
Tim Wildmon: Wait, hold on a second.
Fred Jackson: Yeah, the ice was a foot and a half.
Tim Wildmon: Horse racing on ice.
Fred Jackson: Oh, absolutely. You, you change the shoes on the horse. So the shoes had spikes. Wow.
Tim Wildmon: And I never heard of this before.
Fred Jackson: The farmers. The farmers had horses and, and the prize for winning the race was, every farmer put a bag of feed in. So if you had six horses, you
Tim Wildmon: win the feed, you win six bags of feed.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: Okay. I just, I gotta look this up. So do they still, do they still ice race or.
Fred Jackson: The harbor hasn't frozen that depth in years where I grew up. But I remember, remember watching it and cars would be out there.
Tim Wildmon: There were some brutal winters in the 60s and 70s where I lived there.
Fred Jackson: Sure was.
Tim Wildmon: I remember the Ohio seeing the Ohio river freeze over. Of course it's froze over since then, but we had a winter here in in north Mississippi in probably the mid-70s that lakes, froze Yeah, I mean, it was. It was pretty brutal.
Fred Jackson: That's cold.
Tim Wildmon: And of course, we know from Al Gore what's happened, you know, so, you know. Anyway, but what was it?
Fred Jackson: So, summertime, would be. We'd. We'd, In the farmer's field somewhere, we'd set up some bases.
Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Play baseball.
Fred Jackson: Play baseball.
Tim Wildmon: All right.
Fred Jackson: Yeah.
Tim Wildmon: Chris what was your favorite game outside as a kid?
Chris Woodward: We played football, sometimes on, like, a lot near the, school building.
Tim Wildmon: Play two hand touch or tackle.
Chris Woodward: Tackle.
Tim Wildmon: And, if you want to see something funny that, go out and watch kids play tackle football without pads when they're seven years old.
Chris Woodward: Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then also, my brothers and I, we would sometimes go out after dark with laser tag guns, and my older brother would always dominate us. And I didn't find out until years later that he was, unbeknownst to our parents, climbing on top of the house and then, like, shooting us from an elevated level. And, that's. That's why he was always good at that.
Tim Wildmon: We had a game called Kick the Can. Okay. Are you familiar with this one?
Fred Jackson: Kick the can.
Tim Wildmon: Kick the can. All you needed was, like, a 7Up or Dr. Pepper can.
Chris Woodward: That's what the government does now. They kick the can.
Tim Wildmon: that's, I don't know if that's where kicking. That isn't where kicking the can came down.
Chris Woodward: No, that's just the metaphor.
Tim Wildmon: Kicking the can down the road. But it was. Yeah. Kick the can, put it in the front of the house. I forgot all the.
Fred Jackson: The rules.
Tim Wildmon: I forgot how to play. I tried to play today. I'd throw out my back.
Chris Woodward: So.
Tim Wildmon: We'll be back in a minute. Stay with us.
Tim Wildmon is joined by Fred Jackson and Chris Woodward as they delve into pressing current events from a Christian perspective. The trio discusses the resignation of White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, the ongoing controversy surrounding the Southern Poverty Law Center, and the struggles faced by sailors aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln. They also welcome Bishop E.. W. Jackson, who shares insights on American history and the implications of current societal issues. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that examines faith, politics, and the state of our nation!
(00:00) Today's Issues offers a Christian response to the issues of the day
(03:59) White House press secretary Caroline Levitt is leaving to spend more time with children
(07:12) Caroline Levitt has impressed me as White House press secretary
(09:58) Former Southern Poverty Law center official charged with wire fraud, money laundering
(13:16) Chris Bishop: SPLC used list to determine who was a hate group
(18:33) Multiple Navy sailors reportedly tried to jump overboard as deployment is extended indefinitely
(24:29) 80% of abortion vulnerable women choose life after seeing baby on ultrasound
(26:19) American Family Radio Network welcomes Bishop E.W. jackson to Today's Issues
(27:41) The Smithsonian put Margaret Sanger in a civil rights display last year
(29:01) Fred Jackson: Why would they want to tear down this country
(34:15) Tim Ferriss: Slavery started with America, not Europe or Asia
(39:28) Bishop: Democrat Socialists of America making headway with young people
(40:42) Tim M. King: What's coming up on Awakening podcast this week
(42:36) E.W. jackson's weekly podcast only found on American Family Radio
(43:17) New York Times asks whether letting kids play alone outside should be a crime
(46:47) Chris, what was your favorite outside game as a kid
Tim Wildmon is joined by Fred Jackson and Chris Woodward as they delve into pressing current events from a Christian perspective. The trio discusses the resignation of White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, the ongoing controversy surrounding the Southern Poverty Law Center, and the struggles faced by sailors aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln. They also welcome Bishop E.. W. Jackson, who shares insights on American history and the implications of current societal issues. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that examines faith, politics, and the state of our nation!
(00:00) Today's Issues offers a Christian response to the issues of the day
(03:59) White House press secretary Caroline Levitt is leaving to spend more time with children
(07:12) Caroline Levitt has impressed me as White House press secretary
(09:58) Former Southern Poverty Law center official charged with wire fraud, money laundering
(13:16) Chris Bishop: SPLC used list to determine who was a hate group
(18:33) Multiple Navy sailors reportedly tried to jump overboard as deployment is extended indefinitely
(24:29) 80% of abortion vulnerable women choose life after seeing baby on ultrasound
(26:19) American Family Radio Network welcomes Bishop E.W. jackson to Today's Issues
(27:41) The Smithsonian put Margaret Sanger in a civil rights display last year
(29:01) Fred Jackson: Why would they want to tear down this country
(34:15) Tim Ferriss: Slavery started with America, not Europe or Asia
(39:28) Bishop: Democrat Socialists of America making headway with young people
(40:42) Tim M. King: What's coming up on Awakening podcast this week
(42:36) E.W. jackson's weekly podcast only found on American Family Radio
(43:17) New York Times asks whether letting kids play alone outside should be a crime
(46:47) Chris, what was your favorite outside game as a kid
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