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Tim Wildman offers a Christian response to the issues of the day
Welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning everybody. Welcome to today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR. Today's Tuesday, August 18, 2026. And joining me, institute. By the way, we thank you for listening to American Family Radio. We know you have many choices out there and you've chosen to listen to us. Ed Vitagliano. Good morning, Brother Ed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Good morning, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wesley Wildmon.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Good morning. I'm not like Ed. I got, Coke Zero. Not a Diet Coke. that's bad for you. You know that, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, says the man. Drinking again, Zero.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's just what I was told.
>> Tim Wildmon: So it got Krish Woodward. Good morning, Krish.
>> Chris Woodward: Good morning.
>> Tim Wildmon: Krish is not drinking anything over here.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Probably a good, like a camel.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's not a drinker.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're like a camel.
>> Chris Woodward: I just drink on Sundays and then I'm good for the week.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, people have different animal personalities. right. Remember when that was popular?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now I'm going to see camel. Every time I look at Krish.
>> Wesley Wildmon: No, what I see is when he, if you, if you did, which it's not healthy. Don't do it. I could see him walking around with two 5 gallon things on Sunday going, I gotta get these down. This is my day.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This is it for the week.
>> Tim Wildmon: By the way, I'm just curious and this doesn't matter in the grand scheme of life, this doesn't matter. But I'm still curious. and I partake of, ah, both Diet Coke and Coke Zero. But what allows Coke Zero to taste like Coke without the diet, sweetener aftertaste?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know. I don't, I, I don't drink Coke Zero because I, it's too sweet for me.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. It tastes more like it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. And I now prefer the taste of Diet Coke. So I don't know what they put in.
>> Wesley Wildmon: It's no idea.
>> Tim Wildmon: I knew that y' all wouldn't know before I even asked you.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, I Just know this has zero calories and it tastes pretty similar to Coke. That's all I know. Now this was after the, this came along after Diet Cokes, I believe.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Oh, ye did. Yeah, yeah. Wesley and Krish missed the classic Coke train change of the, train wreck.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That was a train wreck of the
>> Tim Wildmon: 1980s, didn't they, Ed?
>> Ed Vitagliano: yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: What happened there, Ed?
>> Ed Vitagliano: That was, was it way back in the 80s?
>> Tim Wildmon: It was in the 80s. I was in college.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Good grief. Well, Coke was the number one bestseller, I think, at the time. Soft drink and just straight up Coke,
>> Tim Wildmon: not Diet Coke or anything, just Coca Cola.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And so some genius.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: At Coke thought, you know what, let's change the recipe for Coke. And we will. We're going to change our image and try to capture more. And the, the people rebelled. The people spoke.
>> Chris Woodward: Not long after that, Dave, Red
>> Ed Vitagliano: NewSong Coke.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If you look up NewSong Coke,
>> Tim Wildmon: and, and see if it wasn't in the 80s, put type in NewSong Coke controversy.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And so they finally had a back out. They had a back out. And what they did was they had an intermediate step where they said, okay, we've got the NewSong Coke and then we're going Coke classic or Classic Coke?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You were right on it.
>> Tim Wildmon: I was right on it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And they, then they realized nobody wanted NewSong Coke. Nobody asked for NewSong Coke. Yeah. And nobody was gonna drink NewSong Coke.
>> Chris Woodward: That's like, that's like Chick fil a deciding tomorrow they're only gonna sell burgers.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: You become a billion dollar brand and you're gonna completely do something.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It does have a happy ending. The, the person who made that decision
>> Tim Wildmon: at Coke is now homeless.
The change sparked massive public outrage; Coke reversed course 77 days later
>> Ed Vitagliano: No. Went to, work for Bud Light and got Dylan Mulvaney to be the spokesperson.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Y' all are not exaggerating. It says right here. So you, nowadays, you. Oh, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Edna went through the trauma. Oh, it was, it was, it shook America to its core.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Put it in the search. That's what I was getting at. So you put it in the search. AI gives its overview. And AI wanted to highlight this statement.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Wesley Wildmon: The change sparked massive public outrage. Thousands of daily, cop complaint calls, grassroots protests. Just 77 days later, they reversed course.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Wesley Wildmon: They highlighted that.
>> Chris Woodward: And you know.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I did that for we, the taste buds won.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes. And what's. I have a, I have an experience from this, even though I'm not old enough to remember it. I worked when I was in high school, I worked at a Piggly Wiggly in Smithville, Mississippi.
>> Ed Vitagliano: At a what?
>> Tim Wildmon: At a what, Krish?
>> Chris Woodward: Piggly Wiggly.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Chris Woodward: Grocery store. but yeah, it was in Smithville. And there was a guy that used to come in and for years he did not trust Coke because of this. He would come in there and he would ask me or one of the other guys working at the store, he would say, go give me some of that Coca Cola Classic. And then as I was bagging it for him, he would ask me again, are you sure that's Coca Cola Classic? I don't want that new Coke stuff. And I was like, I don't even know what you're talking about, sir.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Went like that.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. And this is like 99, 2000.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I, I will say this, that it was a good thing for the American people to speak up.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And demand their Coke the way they wanted it. But boy, you can't get, you can't get 40 people, to complain about, about the murder of unborn babies.
>> Chris Woodward: Preaching.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And when we used to, we used to pick it a, used to pick it some of the local, video stores around our hometown here, Tupelo, Mississippi that were renting out pornography, pornographic videos in the back room. It was hard to get 20 people to come out. But boy, you take away their code. Classic. So anyway, I could, I, I can, I can take any light hearted story and bring everybody down.
>> Wesley Wildmon: You just did a great everybody.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Lecture the world.
>> Caroline: Yeah.
Two largest reservoirs in the US have fallen to record lows as drought grips Western
>> Tim Wildmon: First news story.
>> Chris Woodward: Well, let's, let's mention, let's mention the weather, for a moment because this is a big concern for several states out west. I'm going to post this on our Today's Issues Facebook page. It's a story Tim across and emailed us, for this show today. Here's the headline. Two Largest US Reservoirs hit Record Lows amid Western Drought. I'm reading from the, beginning of the story. The two largest reservoirs in the US have fallen to record lows as a severe drought grips the country's Western. The new, records highlight the difficulties fueled by climate change facing the Colorado River, a crucial resource for 40 million people. The river feeds both Lake Powell and Lake Mead, two reservoirs created by massive dams built to distribute water year round and generate electricity. This is a big concern, for folks out West. Arizona, Colorado, California, you name it. and because they're having problems, our government is going to try to find ways to help fix that. Which means we might be on the hook for some solutions as well.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I'm, look, I looked this up. Hoover Dam I think is one of those that is in trouble because the water In Lake Mead, the water levels are at a record low. And as of this month here, August 2026, the reservoir is at 27% capacity and nearing this critical elevation threshold. And once the water drops below that level, 12 of the dam's 17 turbines will become inoperable, causing an immediate 70% cut in hydropower generation. That's, that's okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Does that, does that feed the greater Phoenix area? Is that, is that the electrical source of the greater Phoenix area? I'm talking about the Colorado river and
>> Ed Vitagliano: it says I don't have This is by the way a Google search and this is the answer I'm getting. It's going to affect residents in Nevada, Arizona and California. I don't know the particular cities, but I'm guessing Phoenix is a big one.
>> Wesley Wildmon: this Salt and Verde rivers, the Colorado river and the Central Arizona Project are, are the ones that are, cover the greater Phoenix.
>> Tim Wildmon: Phoenix area. Well you talk Phoenix is like 3 million people or something like that. It's, it's it is the desert, you know, so you know that when you move there. However the point of this is that, that there's a drought going on out west and it's. I don't. Then I don't know. There will be, there will be serious consequences if it doesn't change.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Sure.
>> Tim Wildmon: And I know that. Ah, they didn't, they. I say they. Colorado, Utah, they didn't get snow this, this winter. They did last winter.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I should melt off.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, they didn't get snow. Remember the snow Ski resort going. We don't know what to do basically. So so you've got a serious drought problem and there will be. Then there's already a fight over water Right. Out west, you know, because a river runs through multiple states and you and one state, you know, might say we're going to take water and then leave a little bit of water for the next.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know that does happen.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Flows in a direction by the way, Phoenix proper is about 1.6 million. The Phoenix Mesa, Chandler metropolitan area.
>> Tim Wildmon: The Greater Phoenix area.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Greater Phoenix area is 5.2 million. Oh wow, that's a lot of people.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah. To provide electricity for.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And the four primary rivers are water sources that the provide them or the greater Phoenix here. Those four. The Salt and Verde rivers is at 52% capacity. The Colorado river and is it 38% capacity and then the recycled waters at 8% and then local groundwaters at 2%. Wow.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's a bad problem. What were the two lakes? The big Lake Mead and, what was it? Is that the one that, I
>> Ed Vitagliano: think that's the Hoover Dam.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hoover Dam. And what was the other one? There's another Powell Lake Powell, right?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, that's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: but anyway, they're shrinking drastically because of the drought. You're listening to today's Issues.
Chris Griffith: Two names to watch in today's Democratic primaries
Next story.
>> Chris Woodward: Chris it is a primary day in the great state of Florida, and a lot of people are paying.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's a free state of our right, Krish.
>> Chris Woodward: It sure is, especially in places where Democratic socialists want to just make everything free. at taxpayer expend, of course. But, two names to watch in today's Democratic primaries. in the, 25th congressional district, there's a guy named Oliver Larkin. We aired a little bit of his sound yesterday. Oliver Larkin is a Democratic socialist running for Florida's 25th congressional district. And much like we heard him say yesterday, pushing universal health care and free college, he also wants to get rid of ice. here's. He is in clip one.
>> Tim Wildmon: What it does is endangers us. We do not need ICE to keep our communities safe. The United States was able to operate for over two centuries without a militarized immigration enforcement system.
>> Chris Woodward: What Oliver Lockin fails to know is that Democrats, including Barack Obama, who was president for two terms, used ICE to find and remove illegal immigrants. So much so that CNN actually did a story where they rode along with ICE and talked about how great of an effort it was. And these people are protecting Americans. And here we are with Donald Trump in office and people want to get rid of it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, this is the Democrat socialist, movement they are against. Basically, they're anti police. They don't believe in police. They don't believe in jails. They certainly don't believe in immigration enforcement. so this is the loony left of the Democrat Party.
>> Wesley Wildmon: they usually don't have to defend their answer. There's their statements.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, right. So the Democrat Party. There are a lot of people in the Democrat Party who are lifelong Democrats who are opposed to this, this,
>> Wesley Wildmon: to the loony left.
>> Tim Wildmon: The loony left. but there are, I guess there aren't enough of them. There's, as we said, there's a civil war going on in the Democrat Party between your traditional Democrats who are. Yes, they are liberal. but, like Bill Maher, he's an example. You know, you've heard, Jon Fetterman, he is an example. There, are, even Kamala Harris and Barack Obama would be considered Too conservative for this movement, this democrat socialist movement.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, Chuck Schumer is probably, well, I say probably might get primaried next time he's up for re election. He's about as liberal as they come.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: What was the gentleman we just heard from about ice?
>> Chris Woodward: Oliver Larkin.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So when Oliver Larkin says things like we've operated for 200 years without a military, blah blah blah, talking about ice.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: He also, this is why in a debate he would lose because that's, that's strong man. Because we haven't had a need for ICE because we have not opened up our borders for four years. Right, right. so there's a need for it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and besides, we always had the FBI either. So is he. And does that, is that an argument in favor of eliminating the FBI?
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.
>> Chris Woodward: You know, a lot of these democratic socialist candidates, and this could be said for many people, regardless of how they might identify voting wise, a lot of these democratic socialist candidates, they need to know their history because he said we've had, you know, we've had 200 years now with that ice or whatever he said. a couple of weeks ago we aired the sound bite of Shannon Breen with the Democratic Socialist co chair where she was rattling off all the things on their manifesto and getting her to confirm all these things. One of the things that DSA candidates want is to get rid of the Senate. And this lady when asked about it said, well, you know, it was something we brought over from the House of Lords. And people in America have never really had a say over who their senator is. Which is absolutely incorrect because for the last 100 plus years, people have picked their senator. So these people directly. Goobers.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Directly. Before that they.
>> Tim Wildmon: Would you say Goobers. Okay, goobers. You know, to goober, you know, goober means,
>> Ed Vitagliano: I always called people goober growing up because of Goober on Andy Griffith.
>> Chris Woodward: They don't know what they're talking about.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, right, right. there's a more scientific definition.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's is.
>> Chris Woodward: There is.
>> Tim Wildmon: But I think I would bore people if I went into it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Those kind of details.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So we'll just pass and it may
>> Wesley Wildmon: take you back to your days as
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, for.
>> Ed Vitagliano: As a scientist.
>> Tim Wildmon: When I was a scientist. Back in.
>> Wesley Wildmon: There we go. I helped him out.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You got them going.
>> Tim Wildmon: Those are some good years right there.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Good. Your tires.
>> Caroline: All right.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. after Goober. Next story.
A professor at Berkeley says students are not prepared for college math
>> Ed Vitagliano: Krish.
>> Chris Woodward: All right, let's go over this. And a professor at Berkeley who teaches math, wrote an op Ed that the San Francisco Standard published in the last few days. And this female professor, she teaches primarily.
>> Tim Wildmon: Does it matter that she's female, Chris?
>> Chris Woodward: No, just.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, you're identifying her. Yeah, we here, Tim, we do know the difference between men and women.
>> Chris Woodward: Asking a question, this math professor who teaches calculus said that she is having to take time out of her calculus classes to teach her students middle school math. And it's so much of a problem that her op Ed is called I teach calculus at Berkeley and I'm having to teach my students middle school math or my middle school students, you know, m. My students don't understand.
>> Tim Wildmon: So what's your point?
>> Chris Woodward: That kids are making it into college and they're not prepared for college.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean middle school math, that is pretty. That's for a student functioning in the college world. And if they're taking calculus, that's not just a core requirement. That's a person who is going to need math for their career. Just like I was to be a scientist like you were, Tim. So to not to have, to have this kind of educational rehabilitation must be enormously frustrating.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't think this is political. this is at Berkeley.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, Berkeley.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. That's a very liberal school out in California. Everybody's heard of it. UC Berkeley. But her point is, as you said Krish, that the young people who are graduating from high school coming into college, she's observing at least as the math goes. But we've heard other are not prepared for college level math on a general basis.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. I would be interested to go a little further to see if there is a particular state and or school district or districts. There are. That the m. Majority of these kids that don't know math. Are coming from.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm guessing a large percentage of them probably are coming from California.
>> Chris Woodward: Right. It is part of the UC State.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's a state school.
>> Chris Woodward: It is, it is. Now to go with this story, I've got this on afn.net and I'll share it on our Facebook page. But I got some reaction from a guy named Nicholas Giordano who works for Campus Reform. He's also a professor at a different school and he claims that he has seen this same problem in political science classes that he's tried to teach kids.
>> Caroline: Clip 9 I feel this professor's pain because I see it every day in my classroom as well. Even though I teach political science, students cannot even pass a basic citizenship exam. They've never read the Constitution. Or the Declaration of Independence. And they know little about America's governing structure. This is a big problem across all colleges, all universities. And it's because the K2 through 12 system has completely collapsed. They're not teaching students what they're required to know. And by the time students get to college, we're seeing the results. You know over 50% of students have to take one remedial course, at least one remedial course for information that they should have learned in high school. We're now seeing it trickle down to the middle school. So UC San Diego, last year implemented a new remedial math course that requires middle school math. This should be unacceptable in higher education.
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, I read a story about the Baltimore city schools, Maryland, I
>> Wesley Wildmon: was just thinking about that now.
>> Tim Wildmon: And this is true of a lot of, big cities in our country, school systems. The they're just passing them through. They're just passing them through because they don't have anywhere to put the people they got. They came, they can't back up a grade because 25% of them fail. So they just, they. A lot of the, especially the public school systems, I'm not indicting them all, I'm just saying especially in the big cities, they have dumb it, they've dumbed down the requirements so that they can just move them through.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And I remember, I remember when they moved, this has been about 15 years in some school districts. They moved the grade from an A that was at one point in 94, they moved it to a 92 and then they moved it to a 90, all within about a five year window. So then a 90 was an A, right? To your point, they were just lowering the they load that all they did was lower the number. They didn't raise the expectation.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, and you've also heard the left wingers say that scoring for an ACT or an SCT is a racist. I'm serious. Oh yeah, yeah, they say that's racist. to score an ACT or an SAT and then require that for college entry is racist.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I wonder how much of this problem with. Not again, not all public school districts and not all states. But I wonder for a lot of these that are having trouble educating their kids. I wonder if it's because they have shifted to teach them DEI stuff instead, you know, to teach them social issues, quote unquote, justice issues. And they're not spending enough time, even if they had the right curriculum and the right approach, they're not spending enough time teaching kids what they actually need to know they're turning them into social justice warriors. I'm not making that as an accusation. I think there may be something to that, just from the stories we've heard, although I haven't read any studies on that.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm gonna say. Here's my guess. It's not as much what you just mentioned, although that is an issue on a practical, everyday level, why these kids, especially these inner city kids, are not being able to do classwork. Number one, their home life's in shambles. Home life's in shambles. Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And community. Lots of crime, lots of drugs.
>> Tim Wildmon: And then couple that with the phones.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I was about to say that I think. Yeah, there should. You should not be able to get. I've had to think about this a little bit. but I don't. I can make. I could see. I think there should be no phones at school.
Friend: Some students are five to eight years behind in math
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. But I agree with that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: But I can see where there'd be an argument for emergency or whatever. After school activities. Maybe.
>> Tim Wildmon: But I'm talking about using the phone for social media.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's what I'm.
>> Tim Wildmon: Things of that nature. In other words, you get out of school, even if they take the phones up. Oh, you get out of school and they're on the phone, they're on the social media, they're on the TikTok. They're on the,
>> Ed Vitagliano: They're not reading, they're not studying.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, that's what I'm saying. I think you couple that with. And there's no, there's no structure in their home life to accountability. Make them discipline them. And you. Anyway, it's. It's a mess. And so back to the original point. This professor at, UC Berkeley is saying she's. She's having to. She's. She's ready to give calculus instructions on a college level course. And the kids, she said most of them aren't even prepared. Basically have to do a remedial.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: In my story that I shared on our Facebook page, there is a quote from the Berkeley professor whose name is Vesdalina Stankova. And she wrote in her op Ed quote, some students are five to eight years behind in math.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> : Wow.
>> Chris Woodward: And these are kids that got into Berkeley.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I just want to hear you say her name again. That great name.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Well done.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. What's her name again?
>> Chris Woodward: Cova. That's why you got the big bag of popcorn.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think she sounds like a, number one tennis player in the world or something, doesn't it?
>> Wesley Wildmon: I know that if you ask him to do that again. I don't think he could do it.
>> Chris Woodward: That's the Lena Stankova.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: What's her first name?
>> Chris Woodward: Vezdalina.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Vezdalina.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: She spokesperson for one the Wimbledon.
>> Wesley Wildmon: It rolls off the tongue. Well, yeah, if you're Chris. Not for me.
>> Chris Woodward: They were like Martina never to lova.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we're going to take a break right here. It's probably a good thing.
>> Wesley Wildmon: It is.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. so, Wesley will partake of his Coke Zero. We got a guess it'll knock back on the Diet Coke.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Jenna Ellis is coming on the other side of the break.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So Jenna Ellis will visit with Jenna coming up in just a few minutes right here on today's issues. In the meantime, see if you can work in algebra problem. Huh?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Catch you on the flip flop.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's always fun working algebra problem. We'll be back momentarily,
>> Ed Vitagliano: Friend.
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>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim, Ed, Wesley and Krish, we thank you for listening to afr. Ed, if folks want to watch this here show, and I don't know who wouldn't want to, how can they do that?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, there are several ways that you can, watch the video. I don't think it's quite a plethora.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Several. Several. Plethora is not several. Several's not plethora.
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>> Ed Vitagliano: and that's something they do teach you in middle school math. But you know, who, who remembers that way back then? all right, so there are several ways. We have, we do have a live video stream of this show. M. and so the way to do. To watch that if you want to. And like Tim was hinting at, this isn't this, this isn't a group of Brad Pitts up here. Okay. Most big reason you can do it this way.
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>> Tim Wildmon: I just. It's gotten ridiculous.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, there's something ridiculous here. I'm not sure exactly.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So can I answer this question?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, you can.
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>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. One more would be a plethora.
Ed and Brad welcome you to American Family Radio each weekday morning
>> Tim Wildmon: All Right. You are listening, to today's issues on American Family Radio. This is a live show. We thank you for joining us every weekday. And, joining us, Jenna usually is on once a week, most weeks. Jenna Ellis, host of Jenna Ellis in the Morning, right here on American Family Radio. she catches you up with current events, what's happening in our world, and, tries to look at everything through a biblical worldview lens. And that says 7 o' clock to 8 o' clock central time. Each weekday morning on American Family Radio, the Jenna Ellison, the morning show. Good morning, Jenna.
>> Jenna Ellis: Good morning, Ed and Brad.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, thank you, I guess. I don't know.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Ed and Brad. So you couldn't come up with something for me?
>> Tim Wildmon: you couldn't just Al Pacino.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Jenna Ellis: Al and Brad. I was. I was gonna go with something from the Sopranos.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Al Pacino? Yeah. Don't give me some of me from the Sopranos. They're all a bunch of fat boys.
>> Jenna Ellis: They like their pizza, though.
>> Caroline: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, let's move on. This is ridiculous.
>> Tim Wildmon: Entering ethics.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If I want to be insulted, I can just go home for lunch.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're definitely entering ethnic stereotype.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Carrot.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We entered and left.
>> Tim Wildmon: Why is it Italians are the only people you can. You can do that to?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I wonder that quite often that's a
>> Chris Woodward: stereotype Irish people started. Yes, Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think Italians just embrace their stereo.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I kind of do.
>> Chris Woodward: Let's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Hey, listen, we. We want. We want attention.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And if it's. If it's bad. Ah, that's fine.
>> Tim Wildmon: Say hello to my little friend.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Better than being ignored.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, as long as there's Italian food around, my friend, people will not be ig.
>> Chris Woodward: My people. That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Your people will not be ignored.
Tim Ferriss: I think math teachers can harm people psychologically
All right, so, Jenna, we. Hey, Tim, we lost Jenna. Give me a second. I'm working to get her back. Where did she. Where'd she go?
>> Wesley Wildmon: We lost her.
>> Tim Wildmon: Another connection. We lost the connection. Oh, we lost the connection. I thought Jenna just wandered off.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm working to get her back. I have a confession to make. Her. Her hurtful comments. I hit the red button.
>> Tim Wildmon: Did you cut her off?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I cut her off.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're a very sensitive man.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm very sensitive.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, well, I don't think anybody
>> Wesley Wildmon: on this show right here is very sensitive.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's probably true.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Anyway, we're better or for worse.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so we're trying to get Janet back on. I don't know what happened right there. Let me tell you. We were talking about math earlier, and, this college professor From UC Berkeley. And I've heard this from other. You hear this from other professors in other subject matter too, that the young people entering college today are not as prepared as previous generations, for. To tackle college level subject matter. Right. In this case, math. And so, that, that was one of the topic we were talking about earlier, but we were talking about algebra. yeah, I remember. I, I aced. I really did. I aced, adding, subtracting.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Multiplying and dividing. I'm talking about, I was making.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Wait, you aced elementary school is what you're saying? Yeah. Nothing. That's, that's, that's, that's an accomplishment.
>> Tim Wildmon: Accomplishment. And then I think it was sixth grade or seventh grade. They started throwing up some letters in our math on the board. Do you remember this?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, sure. 2x plus y. 2x plus y equals 48.
>> Tim Wildmon: even, even as a 13 year old going, why, what's the purpose? Why are you mixing English with M numbers?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: You knew, huh? so I don't know what. That's when you started.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They started having trouble with Matt.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that's when the teacher. I think Wesley mentioned this too. He didn't like this. The teacher. Did this happen to you? The teacher, called on three of us to go up to the board.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, yeah, I remember.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know where I'm going with.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I remember those days.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. so, Mr. Johnson, Ms. Thompson, Mr. Wildmon, you need to come up here and work these problems on the board. And so I would, you know, if you struggle with that, you sort of look back, you step back three steps and see if you can look at the other. Because it's pain, work and the problems.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: See if you can help, that'll help.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: But if you get stuck and you can't get to the end.
>> Jenna Ellis: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's a, that's not a good feeling. So I think math teachers, by calling people can do that, can actually harm people psychologically.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. Rather than you're psychologically harmed by that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: You sound like you're in favor of no grades.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm in favor of getting everybody a 90 and moving on. Socialism. I'm a socialist.
What is it in golf when you just say that you can't get higher than
>> Wesley Wildmon: What is it in golf when you just say that you can't get higher than. You can't get more than a double bogey. Is there?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, we get mulligans.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, but.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Mulligan.
>> Wesley Wildmon: But you've played in a round of golf. what do you call it? Like a,
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: When you round the golf.
>> Wesley Wildmon: When you play four guys, a scramble, scramble, scramble. And you go and you look at each other. Your favorite best ball. Or.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or that's what we need to do in math.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Take the best ball. Or you just say to your. You say to that, hey, listen, no more than a. No more than a bogey. So if you get to a bogey, just pick it up and go. So that's what they're doing in math.
>> Tim Wildmon: And fifth graders now, they're below 90 scores under 70. All right, let's get back to Jenna, because she's. Who knows when she'll be lost again. You there?
>> Jenna Ellis: I. I am. And, you know, I gotta say, I'm very suspicious of Ed right now.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I think because I'm Italian, right? Is that where you're going with this?
>> Tim Wildmon: Cut you off? He cuts.
>> Wesley Wildmon: You did.
>> Jenna Ellis: I mean, see what happens.
>> Tim Wildmon: So say hello to my little button.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I suppose if your tire comes up slashed, I'll be the first one you accused.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, man, he's.
>> Jenna Ellis: He's. He's got some really good connections there from Mississippi all the way.
>> Ed Vitagliano: yeah, that's right. The Mississippi connection.
Moral relativism and spiritual relativism are problems within Christian community
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so back to the important story we were talking about. Jenna, you were having. We discuss on this network a lot how moral relativism and spiritual relativism, which are connected, are a real problem even within the Christian community, in America today. And you were having a conversation the other day at the dog park, I think that you told me about, and Jeff Shareve, you told him about that, I thought was emblematic of some of the problems that we are facing in the Christian community. You want to talk about that?
>> Jenna Ellis: Yeah, and it's absolutely true and so well said. So, you know, I take my dogs, over to our local dog park, almost daily. And so, you know, I meet my neighbors and people in the community, who also bring their dogs. And, this lady that I was speaking to, she has previously said that she's a Christian, so, you know, take her at her word for that. And we were talking about, the big dog, ah, rescue ranch, and all of the beagles that have been rescued and how terrible animal testing is. And she, said, you know, yeah, it is not okay to treat any living thing like that. And so I said, yeah, that's so true. And did you hear about the Massachusetts governor that recently implemented abortion until birth? And immediately her argument completely changed. And she said, well, it's not for me to impose my medical judgment on anybody else. And I think that's a, you know, very different issue. And so we had this conversation for probably the next, you know, 10 or 15 minutes where I, you know, respectfully but intentionally kind of pressed her on why she would assert her medical judgment for testing on animals, but not assert a medical judgment for killing human babies. I mean, there's such a cognitive dissonance. And at one point, she even tried to invoke her faith and assert that God respects our choices. And I even asked her, I said, well, what do you mean by that? She said, well, we have the freedom to choose, and that's why Jesus died, so we could have a choice in our lives. Which raises a lot of questions about what she personally believes about salvation and a whole host of, you know, theological things.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, she deserved to have her nose pinched at that point, though. I'm glad you didn't do that.
>> Jenna Ellis: But I refrained. But, But, yeah, but. But I did. Instead of just either preaching at her or, or just letting it go and saying, well, you know, we can agree to disagree, I pressed her on why. And she, of course, kept pivoting her argument as the conversation went on. And then at the kind of the conclusion of the conversation, I told her that, okay, well, morality is objective, and the law and the state is here to punish evildoers. That's part of, the legitimacy that God provides to the civil government. And so we do impose our morality in medical decision making. That's the whole scope of medical malpractice. And so, you know, someone needs someone's opinion, and morality is being imposed, and it needs to be the objective standard of God. And I also addressed this whole freedom to choose. Yes, the Bible talks about freedom in Christ, but it's that, we're free from our sin, not free from the consequences of our choices, or free from the measurable difference between right and wrong and good and evil. And so it was. The overall conversation was absolutely wild to me because this is a person who asserts openly that she's a Christian. And then clearly the church that she attends in the area, which I know it's a little bit woke, is not teaching the accurate, true principles of theology. And as much as we talk on this entire network about pro life and the reasons behind all of these things, it's so important to continue doing this because there are so many professing Christians who actually don't know the truth.
You talk about on the pro life abortion. I was going to ask a question on that issue
>> Ed Vitagliano: Go ahead.
>> Caroline: I was.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I was going to ask a question, so. And I've had similar conversations over the years with, especially back in college, I'd had similar conversations. And I always wondered if if they got to see exactly that which they're defending, would it change their mind or. It didn't for me. It didn't seem.
>> Tim Wildmon: You talk about on the pro life abortion.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, we'll stick on that issue, but you could get, you could extrapolate that over into illegal immigration or what,
>> Tim Wildmon: whatever, what is right or wrong and who decides.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Right. So it seems to me, I feel like it, they a lot of people that believe, like the lady you said, I feel like with the being able to go to an abortion clinic, see the baby or. I know this can get kind of graphic, but all the things that we've talked about over the years as a pro lifer, if she were to see exactly what she was defending, do you think that would change your mind or you think it just a matter of education or. Go ahead.
>> Jenna Ellis: Yeah. I don't know what would necessarily change this individual person, but I love that the pro life argument and the pro life community is trying to force people who are pro abortion or who don't want to take a position and say, well it's not for me to impose my beliefs on you, to actually see what it is they're defending. And Congressman Brandon Gill has been so good at this recently by asking leftists who come in to the congressional hearings, what's your favorite method of abortion? And please describe it. They won't because they know that babies feel pain. They know that it is a hideous, horrendous, evil practice. And if you notice all of the entertainment media never actually shows abortion procedures, medical shows and TV dramas, they'll show all kinds of, you know, blood and gore and they'll show all kinds of surgeries and other life saving things.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're not going to go inside an abortion clinic.
>> Jenna Ellis: No, they will never show that. Why? Because then it's, it's absolutely indefensible. But I think the interesting thing here is that so many women in particular have a false understanding that if we outlaw and criminalize the abortion procedure then somehow if a woman needs actual life saving care that's related to a pregnancy or then, then she's not going to get that. And that's what I hear over and over, especially from women in Florida during, you know, all of the pro life discussions. And I think that's a huge misnomer that we do need to educate on,
>> Ed Vitagliano: you know, probably about 15 years ago, it may be 20 now, so I can't remember this lady's name, but I wrote an article for our magazine. by the way folks, you need to sign up to get the Stand magazine. It is excellent. but I wrote this article, I read this, it was just stunning to me. This was a member, a documentary filmmaker, ah, a lady, younger lady, in the UK and her dad was the by number of abortions a year, the top abortionist in the country in Great Britain. And she was doing a documentary about abortion and she watched one of these films that show an abortion, you know, from inside. So it's graphic. And I remember her writing, she wrote an article about it and she said as I was watching it, she said my hand and I was watching this unborn child being dismembered. she said. My hand flew to my mouth and in my mind I knew this was murder. She said, but that was my emotional reaction. And once I got over that I realized this still has to be about logic. And then she went back to the choice argument and when. And I wrote that was so stunning to me and so revealing because on Judgment Day God is going to talk about God not respecting your choices. God, I don't know how this works when people stand before God, but the conscience is going to empty the contents and the truth about what we knew, about what we do and about what we approve is going to come out and no one's going to be able to do a two step and get, get around what their conscience showed them. But people do this all the time. This lady is sidestepping the lady Jenna's talking to. The lady Jenna's talking about was talking to and for them to be Christians. But the stunning thing was this woman saw, I'm talking now, I'm switching women. This is the woman in the uk, she saw what was happening in this abortion. She knew it was murder, but she suppressed that knowledge in unrighteousness. And if a ah, Christian is going to a church that won't preach the truth, how's anybody going to Penetrate that hardened conscience? This is a difficult thing that the church is going through. I don't understand pastors who won't preach the truth.
>> Chris Woodward: I think pastors need to preach more on life. I'm not saying it needs to be the focus of every Sunday sermon, but they need to preach more on life outside of January, which is the sanctity of human life for sure.
>> Tim Wildmon: Let me tell you another thing related to the topic we're talking about here and what we're talking about basically folks, is that a lot of Christians have a messed up worldview and it's illogical, but they bought the ideas of the world rather than the ideas of the Bible. And then they, I think a lot of it is. They just don't want to oppose the pop culture. and so it's easier just to say, you know, something, but here's the. Here's the. Here's this, escape hatch that a lot of politicians have used over the years, especially Democrats. Back to Bill Clinton and Joe Biden, even, because you go, Joe Biden is supposed to be a devout Roman Catholic, and yet the Roman Catholic Church teaches abortion is a mortal sin, don't they? Isn't that true?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Jenna Ellis: Yeah. You're not supposed to be able to
>> Tim Wildmon: take the Eucharist if you, if you approve of or do an abortion. Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So you go to hell. So. So a mortal sin is one that can, if it's unconfessed and unrepentant, can send to hell.
>> Tim Wildmon: So here's what. And you've heard other Protestant Christians use this, too. This is not exclusive to the Roman Catholic, politicians, but Roman. But, Joe, they would, they'll say something like this. I'm personally opposed to abortion, but I don't believe I have the right to tell another person what they can't do, can or can't do with their body. That just. You just. They just want to start playing the national anthem right there. That sounds so American.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, it does.
>> Jenna Ellis: Well, let me just.
>> Tim Wildmon: Chevrolet or a Ford? I'm not going to impose my ideas that I want a Chevrolet on, just because I want a Ford. Go ahead, Jen.
>> Jenna Ellis: And that's exactly where this woman that I was talking to pivoted to. And she said, well, it's not for me. I don't even think it's for the politicians, but it's not for me to impose my choices. I think that's just for the physician. And I said, well, then how did you, your, your Florida resident, how did you vote on Amendment 4 when we. Which was the abortion tourism amendment? I said, because the government at that point is asking you as a citizen to weigh in, so you had to choose the option of whether you stood for life or whether you. You were going to choose to allow this. And she goes, oh, well, I don't remember that. And I said, you know, so it was clearly uncomfortable with the question. And I said, well, do you remember how you voted? And she said, oh, I probably just didn't vote on that because I don't want to impose my choice on anyone else.
Many politicians who say they're personally opposed to abortion never explain why
>> Chris Woodward: The.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, one other. Let me finish my thought here before it escapes Me, so all these years in watching politicians who, you know, especially presidential, who say they're personally opposed to abortion, they're trying to have it both ways right there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: But m. They're never asked by the interviewer who most of the time are liberal themselves, but they're never asked the natural follow up question, why are you personally opposed? Explain to me why are you personally opposed? We're not going to talk about, you don't impose your views on other people. I just want to know why you personally are opposed.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: If they have to explain that, then is, then you go, so what would they say? Well, it's personal. I'm personally opposed because religious views, because it's arguably the taking of human life. So you may say, so you're personally opposed to something you say could be murder or could be the taking of innocent human life. You're personally opposed to that, but you don't want to impose that view. You see what I'm saying?
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's like saying I'm personally opposed to slavery, but I don't want to impose my slave owner on a slave owner
>> Tim Wildmon: on my fellow man who wants to be a slave owner. Yeah, it's just there's a, there's a moral. When somebody says I'm personally opposed to something, you're going like, well, there must, you must have a moral check about it and explain to me why that is or what that is.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So, Jenna, you think this lady's gonna talk to you in the future if she sees you at the dog park?
>> Jenna Ellis: I've seen her since then. And we've, you know, we've, had other conversations because I wanted to make, make sure to leave it on a good note.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Jenna Ellis: I just said, you know, I hope that you as a Christian think about this and really pray about it. Because of course, she said, you know, well, and pro lifers only care about children in the womb. And I said, no, no, we don't. We actually care from the moment of conception all the way till natural death. That's why we oppose a physician assisted suicide, completed life, bills, other things.
>> Tim Wildmon: She's got all the, all the, cliches of the talking point.
>> Chris Woodward: You know what it is? Her pastor.
>> Jenna Ellis: Fascinating.
>> Chris Woodward: Her pastor probably is the type that gives the seven bullet points on how to have a great week when you need a swift kick in the pants from the Holy Spirit.
>> Jenna Ellis: But, but the bottom line is that I'm glad that I told her. I'm glad I kept the relationship open to talk to her in the future. This is why we need to have conversations with our neighbors. And if I hadn't brought up the topic, we wouldn't have talked about it. So we need to be more bold, even at places.
>> Tim Wildmon: So you didn't end with, you're an idiot.
>> : It.
>> Jenna Ellis: I was thinking that.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think that would. That would probably shut down any further discussion.
>> Jenna Ellis: Exactly. No. She's kind, and I. I am praying
>> Tim Wildmon: for nicer than Jesus. That's what a lot of Christians are.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, on another note. Jenna.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Watch your back.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Jenna Ellis: My connection stayed.
>> Ed.
>> Jenna Ellis: Ow.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we'll be back down. we'll be back in five minutes.
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Tim Wildman offers a Christian response to the issues of the day
Welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning everybody. Welcome to today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR. Today's Tuesday, August 18, 2026. And joining me, institute. By the way, we thank you for listening to American Family Radio. We know you have many choices out there and you've chosen to listen to us. Ed Vitagliano. Good morning, Brother Ed.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Good morning, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wesley Wildmon.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Good morning. I'm not like Ed. I got, Coke Zero. Not a Diet Coke. that's bad for you. You know that, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, says the man. Drinking again, Zero.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's just what I was told.
>> Tim Wildmon: So it got Krish Woodward. Good morning, Krish.
>> Chris Woodward: Good morning.
>> Tim Wildmon: Krish is not drinking anything over here.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Probably a good, like a camel.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's not a drinker.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're like a camel.
>> Chris Woodward: I just drink on Sundays and then I'm good for the week.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know, people have different animal personalities. right. Remember when that was popular?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Now I'm going to see camel. Every time I look at Krish.
>> Wesley Wildmon: No, what I see is when he, if you, if you did, which it's not healthy. Don't do it. I could see him walking around with two 5 gallon things on Sunday going, I gotta get these down. This is my day.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This is it for the week.
>> Tim Wildmon: By the way, I'm just curious and this doesn't matter in the grand scheme of life, this doesn't matter. But I'm still curious. and I partake of, ah, both Diet Coke and Coke Zero. But what allows Coke Zero to taste like Coke without the diet, sweetener aftertaste?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know. I don't, I, I don't drink Coke Zero because I, it's too sweet for me.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. It tastes more like it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. And I now prefer the taste of Diet Coke. So I don't know what they put in.
>> Wesley Wildmon: It's no idea.
>> Tim Wildmon: I knew that y' all wouldn't know before I even asked you.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, I Just know this has zero calories and it tastes pretty similar to Coke. That's all I know. Now this was after the, this came along after Diet Cokes, I believe.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Oh, ye did. Yeah, yeah. Wesley and Krish missed the classic Coke train change of the, train wreck.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That was a train wreck of the
>> Tim Wildmon: 1980s, didn't they, Ed?
>> Ed Vitagliano: yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: What happened there, Ed?
>> Ed Vitagliano: That was, was it way back in the 80s?
>> Tim Wildmon: It was in the 80s. I was in college.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Good grief. Well, Coke was the number one bestseller, I think, at the time. Soft drink and just straight up Coke,
>> Tim Wildmon: not Diet Coke or anything, just Coca Cola.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And so some genius.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: At Coke thought, you know what, let's change the recipe for Coke. And we will. We're going to change our image and try to capture more. And the, the people rebelled. The people spoke.
>> Chris Woodward: Not long after that, Dave, Red
>> Ed Vitagliano: NewSong Coke.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If you look up NewSong Coke,
>> Tim Wildmon: and, and see if it wasn't in the 80s, put type in NewSong Coke controversy.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And so they finally had a back out. They had a back out. And what they did was they had an intermediate step where they said, okay, we've got the NewSong Coke and then we're going Coke classic or Classic Coke?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You were right on it.
>> Tim Wildmon: I was right on it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And they, then they realized nobody wanted NewSong Coke. Nobody asked for NewSong Coke. Yeah. And nobody was gonna drink NewSong Coke.
>> Chris Woodward: That's like, that's like Chick fil a deciding tomorrow they're only gonna sell burgers.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: You become a billion dollar brand and you're gonna completely do something.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It does have a happy ending. The, the person who made that decision
>> Tim Wildmon: at Coke is now homeless.
The change sparked massive public outrage; Coke reversed course 77 days later
>> Ed Vitagliano: No. Went to, work for Bud Light and got Dylan Mulvaney to be the spokesperson.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Y' all are not exaggerating. It says right here. So you, nowadays, you. Oh, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Edna went through the trauma. Oh, it was, it was, it shook America to its core.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Put it in the search. That's what I was getting at. So you put it in the search. AI gives its overview. And AI wanted to highlight this statement.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Wesley Wildmon: The change sparked massive public outrage. Thousands of daily, cop complaint calls, grassroots protests. Just 77 days later, they reversed course.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Wesley Wildmon: They highlighted that.
>> Chris Woodward: And you know.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I did that for we, the taste buds won.
>> Chris Woodward: Yes. And what's. I have a, I have an experience from this, even though I'm not old enough to remember it. I worked when I was in high school, I worked at a Piggly Wiggly in Smithville, Mississippi.
>> Ed Vitagliano: At a what?
>> Tim Wildmon: At a what, Krish?
>> Chris Woodward: Piggly Wiggly.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Chris Woodward: Grocery store. but yeah, it was in Smithville. And there was a guy that used to come in and for years he did not trust Coke because of this. He would come in there and he would ask me or one of the other guys working at the store, he would say, go give me some of that Coca Cola Classic. And then as I was bagging it for him, he would ask me again, are you sure that's Coca Cola Classic? I don't want that new Coke stuff. And I was like, I don't even know what you're talking about, sir.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Went like that.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. And this is like 99, 2000.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I, I will say this, that it was a good thing for the American people to speak up.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And demand their Coke the way they wanted it. But boy, you can't get, you can't get 40 people, to complain about, about the murder of unborn babies.
>> Chris Woodward: Preaching.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And when we used to, we used to pick it a, used to pick it some of the local, video stores around our hometown here, Tupelo, Mississippi that were renting out pornography, pornographic videos in the back room. It was hard to get 20 people to come out. But boy, you take away their code. Classic. So anyway, I could, I, I can, I can take any light hearted story and bring everybody down.
>> Wesley Wildmon: You just did a great everybody.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Lecture the world.
>> Caroline: Yeah.
Two largest reservoirs in the US have fallen to record lows as drought grips Western
>> Tim Wildmon: First news story.
>> Chris Woodward: Well, let's, let's mention, let's mention the weather, for a moment because this is a big concern for several states out west. I'm going to post this on our Today's Issues Facebook page. It's a story Tim across and emailed us, for this show today. Here's the headline. Two Largest US Reservoirs hit Record Lows amid Western Drought. I'm reading from the, beginning of the story. The two largest reservoirs in the US have fallen to record lows as a severe drought grips the country's Western. The new, records highlight the difficulties fueled by climate change facing the Colorado River, a crucial resource for 40 million people. The river feeds both Lake Powell and Lake Mead, two reservoirs created by massive dams built to distribute water year round and generate electricity. This is a big concern, for folks out West. Arizona, Colorado, California, you name it. and because they're having problems, our government is going to try to find ways to help fix that. Which means we might be on the hook for some solutions as well.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I'm, look, I looked this up. Hoover Dam I think is one of those that is in trouble because the water In Lake Mead, the water levels are at a record low. And as of this month here, August 2026, the reservoir is at 27% capacity and nearing this critical elevation threshold. And once the water drops below that level, 12 of the dam's 17 turbines will become inoperable, causing an immediate 70% cut in hydropower generation. That's, that's okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Does that, does that feed the greater Phoenix area? Is that, is that the electrical source of the greater Phoenix area? I'm talking about the Colorado river and
>> Ed Vitagliano: it says I don't have This is by the way a Google search and this is the answer I'm getting. It's going to affect residents in Nevada, Arizona and California. I don't know the particular cities, but I'm guessing Phoenix is a big one.
>> Wesley Wildmon: this Salt and Verde rivers, the Colorado river and the Central Arizona Project are, are the ones that are, cover the greater Phoenix.
>> Tim Wildmon: Phoenix area. Well you talk Phoenix is like 3 million people or something like that. It's, it's it is the desert, you know, so you know that when you move there. However the point of this is that, that there's a drought going on out west and it's. I don't. Then I don't know. There will be, there will be serious consequences if it doesn't change.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Sure.
>> Tim Wildmon: And I know that. Ah, they didn't, they. I say they. Colorado, Utah, they didn't get snow this, this winter. They did last winter.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I should melt off.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, they didn't get snow. Remember the snow Ski resort going. We don't know what to do basically. So so you've got a serious drought problem and there will be. Then there's already a fight over water Right. Out west, you know, because a river runs through multiple states and you and one state, you know, might say we're going to take water and then leave a little bit of water for the next.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know that does happen.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Flows in a direction by the way, Phoenix proper is about 1.6 million. The Phoenix Mesa, Chandler metropolitan area.
>> Tim Wildmon: The Greater Phoenix area.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Greater Phoenix area is 5.2 million. Oh wow, that's a lot of people.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah. To provide electricity for.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And the four primary rivers are water sources that the provide them or the greater Phoenix here. Those four. The Salt and Verde rivers is at 52% capacity. The Colorado river and is it 38% capacity and then the recycled waters at 8% and then local groundwaters at 2%. Wow.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's a bad problem. What were the two lakes? The big Lake Mead and, what was it? Is that the one that, I
>> Ed Vitagliano: think that's the Hoover Dam.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hoover Dam. And what was the other one? There's another Powell Lake Powell, right?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, that's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: but anyway, they're shrinking drastically because of the drought. You're listening to today's Issues.
Chris Griffith: Two names to watch in today's Democratic primaries
Next story.
>> Chris Woodward: Chris it is a primary day in the great state of Florida, and a lot of people are paying.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's a free state of our right, Krish.
>> Chris Woodward: It sure is, especially in places where Democratic socialists want to just make everything free. at taxpayer expend, of course. But, two names to watch in today's Democratic primaries. in the, 25th congressional district, there's a guy named Oliver Larkin. We aired a little bit of his sound yesterday. Oliver Larkin is a Democratic socialist running for Florida's 25th congressional district. And much like we heard him say yesterday, pushing universal health care and free college, he also wants to get rid of ice. here's. He is in clip one.
>> Tim Wildmon: What it does is endangers us. We do not need ICE to keep our communities safe. The United States was able to operate for over two centuries without a militarized immigration enforcement system.
>> Chris Woodward: What Oliver Lockin fails to know is that Democrats, including Barack Obama, who was president for two terms, used ICE to find and remove illegal immigrants. So much so that CNN actually did a story where they rode along with ICE and talked about how great of an effort it was. And these people are protecting Americans. And here we are with Donald Trump in office and people want to get rid of it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, this is the Democrat socialist, movement they are against. Basically, they're anti police. They don't believe in police. They don't believe in jails. They certainly don't believe in immigration enforcement. so this is the loony left of the Democrat Party.
>> Wesley Wildmon: they usually don't have to defend their answer. There's their statements.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, right. So the Democrat Party. There are a lot of people in the Democrat Party who are lifelong Democrats who are opposed to this, this,
>> Wesley Wildmon: to the loony left.
>> Tim Wildmon: The loony left. but there are, I guess there aren't enough of them. There's, as we said, there's a civil war going on in the Democrat Party between your traditional Democrats who are. Yes, they are liberal. but, like Bill Maher, he's an example. You know, you've heard, Jon Fetterman, he is an example. There, are, even Kamala Harris and Barack Obama would be considered Too conservative for this movement, this democrat socialist movement.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, Chuck Schumer is probably, well, I say probably might get primaried next time he's up for re election. He's about as liberal as they come.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: What was the gentleman we just heard from about ice?
>> Chris Woodward: Oliver Larkin.
>> Wesley Wildmon: So when Oliver Larkin says things like we've operated for 200 years without a military, blah blah blah, talking about ice.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: He also, this is why in a debate he would lose because that's, that's strong man. Because we haven't had a need for ICE because we have not opened up our borders for four years. Right, right. so there's a need for it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, and besides, we always had the FBI either. So is he. And does that, is that an argument in favor of eliminating the FBI?
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.
>> Chris Woodward: You know, a lot of these democratic socialist candidates, and this could be said for many people, regardless of how they might identify voting wise, a lot of these democratic socialist candidates, they need to know their history because he said we've had, you know, we've had 200 years now with that ice or whatever he said. a couple of weeks ago we aired the sound bite of Shannon Breen with the Democratic Socialist co chair where she was rattling off all the things on their manifesto and getting her to confirm all these things. One of the things that DSA candidates want is to get rid of the Senate. And this lady when asked about it said, well, you know, it was something we brought over from the House of Lords. And people in America have never really had a say over who their senator is. Which is absolutely incorrect because for the last 100 plus years, people have picked their senator. So these people directly. Goobers.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Directly. Before that they.
>> Tim Wildmon: Would you say Goobers. Okay, goobers. You know, to goober, you know, goober means,
>> Ed Vitagliano: I always called people goober growing up because of Goober on Andy Griffith.
>> Chris Woodward: They don't know what they're talking about.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, right, right. there's a more scientific definition.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's is.
>> Chris Woodward: There is.
>> Tim Wildmon: But I think I would bore people if I went into it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Those kind of details.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So we'll just pass and it may
>> Wesley Wildmon: take you back to your days as
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, for.
>> Ed Vitagliano: As a scientist.
>> Tim Wildmon: When I was a scientist. Back in.
>> Wesley Wildmon: There we go. I helped him out.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You got them going.
>> Tim Wildmon: Those are some good years right there.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Good. Your tires.
>> Caroline: All right.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. after Goober. Next story.
A professor at Berkeley says students are not prepared for college math
>> Ed Vitagliano: Krish.
>> Chris Woodward: All right, let's go over this. And a professor at Berkeley who teaches math, wrote an op Ed that the San Francisco Standard published in the last few days. And this female professor, she teaches primarily.
>> Tim Wildmon: Does it matter that she's female, Chris?
>> Chris Woodward: No, just.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, you're identifying her. Yeah, we here, Tim, we do know the difference between men and women.
>> Chris Woodward: Asking a question, this math professor who teaches calculus said that she is having to take time out of her calculus classes to teach her students middle school math. And it's so much of a problem that her op Ed is called I teach calculus at Berkeley and I'm having to teach my students middle school math or my middle school students, you know, m. My students don't understand.
>> Tim Wildmon: So what's your point?
>> Chris Woodward: That kids are making it into college and they're not prepared for college.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean middle school math, that is pretty. That's for a student functioning in the college world. And if they're taking calculus, that's not just a core requirement. That's a person who is going to need math for their career. Just like I was to be a scientist like you were, Tim. So to not to have, to have this kind of educational rehabilitation must be enormously frustrating.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't think this is political. this is at Berkeley.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, Berkeley.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. That's a very liberal school out in California. Everybody's heard of it. UC Berkeley. But her point is, as you said Krish, that the young people who are graduating from high school coming into college, she's observing at least as the math goes. But we've heard other are not prepared for college level math on a general basis.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. I would be interested to go a little further to see if there is a particular state and or school district or districts. There are. That the m. Majority of these kids that don't know math. Are coming from.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm guessing a large percentage of them probably are coming from California.
>> Chris Woodward: Right. It is part of the UC State.
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's a state school.
>> Chris Woodward: It is, it is. Now to go with this story, I've got this on afn.net and I'll share it on our Facebook page. But I got some reaction from a guy named Nicholas Giordano who works for Campus Reform. He's also a professor at a different school and he claims that he has seen this same problem in political science classes that he's tried to teach kids.
>> Caroline: Clip 9 I feel this professor's pain because I see it every day in my classroom as well. Even though I teach political science, students cannot even pass a basic citizenship exam. They've never read the Constitution. Or the Declaration of Independence. And they know little about America's governing structure. This is a big problem across all colleges, all universities. And it's because the K2 through 12 system has completely collapsed. They're not teaching students what they're required to know. And by the time students get to college, we're seeing the results. You know over 50% of students have to take one remedial course, at least one remedial course for information that they should have learned in high school. We're now seeing it trickle down to the middle school. So UC San Diego, last year implemented a new remedial math course that requires middle school math. This should be unacceptable in higher education.
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, I read a story about the Baltimore city schools, Maryland, I
>> Wesley Wildmon: was just thinking about that now.
>> Tim Wildmon: And this is true of a lot of, big cities in our country, school systems. The they're just passing them through. They're just passing them through because they don't have anywhere to put the people they got. They came, they can't back up a grade because 25% of them fail. So they just, they. A lot of the, especially the public school systems, I'm not indicting them all, I'm just saying especially in the big cities, they have dumb it, they've dumbed down the requirements so that they can just move them through.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And I remember, I remember when they moved, this has been about 15 years in some school districts. They moved the grade from an A that was at one point in 94, they moved it to a 92 and then they moved it to a 90, all within about a five year window. So then a 90 was an A, right? To your point, they were just lowering the they load that all they did was lower the number. They didn't raise the expectation.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, and you've also heard the left wingers say that scoring for an ACT or an SCT is a racist. I'm serious. Oh yeah, yeah, they say that's racist. to score an ACT or an SAT and then require that for college entry is racist.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I wonder how much of this problem with. Not again, not all public school districts and not all states. But I wonder for a lot of these that are having trouble educating their kids. I wonder if it's because they have shifted to teach them DEI stuff instead, you know, to teach them social issues, quote unquote, justice issues. And they're not spending enough time, even if they had the right curriculum and the right approach, they're not spending enough time teaching kids what they actually need to know they're turning them into social justice warriors. I'm not making that as an accusation. I think there may be something to that, just from the stories we've heard, although I haven't read any studies on that.
>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm gonna say. Here's my guess. It's not as much what you just mentioned, although that is an issue on a practical, everyday level, why these kids, especially these inner city kids, are not being able to do classwork. Number one, their home life's in shambles. Home life's in shambles. Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And community. Lots of crime, lots of drugs.
>> Tim Wildmon: And then couple that with the phones.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I was about to say that I think. Yeah, there should. You should not be able to get. I've had to think about this a little bit. but I don't. I can make. I could see. I think there should be no phones at school.
Friend: Some students are five to eight years behind in math
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. But I agree with that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: But I can see where there'd be an argument for emergency or whatever. After school activities. Maybe.
>> Tim Wildmon: But I'm talking about using the phone for social media.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's what I'm.
>> Tim Wildmon: Things of that nature. In other words, you get out of school, even if they take the phones up. Oh, you get out of school and they're on the phone, they're on the social media, they're on the TikTok. They're on the,
>> Ed Vitagliano: They're not reading, they're not studying.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, that's what I'm saying. I think you couple that with. And there's no, there's no structure in their home life to accountability. Make them discipline them. And you. Anyway, it's. It's a mess. And so back to the original point. This professor at, UC Berkeley is saying she's. She's having to. She's. She's ready to give calculus instructions on a college level course. And the kids, she said most of them aren't even prepared. Basically have to do a remedial.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Chris Woodward: In my story that I shared on our Facebook page, there is a quote from the Berkeley professor whose name is Vesdalina Stankova. And she wrote in her op Ed quote, some students are five to eight years behind in math.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> : Wow.
>> Chris Woodward: And these are kids that got into Berkeley.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I just want to hear you say her name again. That great name.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Well done.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. What's her name again?
>> Chris Woodward: Cova. That's why you got the big bag of popcorn.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think she sounds like a, number one tennis player in the world or something, doesn't it?
>> Wesley Wildmon: I know that if you ask him to do that again. I don't think he could do it.
>> Chris Woodward: That's the Lena Stankova.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: What's her first name?
>> Chris Woodward: Vezdalina.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Vezdalina.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: She spokesperson for one the Wimbledon.
>> Wesley Wildmon: It rolls off the tongue. Well, yeah, if you're Chris. Not for me.
>> Chris Woodward: They were like Martina never to lova.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we're going to take a break right here. It's probably a good thing.
>> Wesley Wildmon: It is.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. so, Wesley will partake of his Coke Zero. We got a guess it'll knock back on the Diet Coke.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Jenna Ellis is coming on the other side of the break.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So Jenna Ellis will visit with Jenna coming up in just a few minutes right here on today's issues. In the meantime, see if you can work in algebra problem. Huh?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Catch you on the flip flop.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's always fun working algebra problem. We'll be back momentarily,
>> Ed Vitagliano: Friend.
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>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim, Ed, Wesley and Krish, we thank you for listening to afr. Ed, if folks want to watch this here show, and I don't know who wouldn't want to, how can they do that?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, there are several ways that you can, watch the video. I don't think it's quite a plethora.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Several. Several. Plethora is not several. Several's not plethora.
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>> Ed Vitagliano: and that's something they do teach you in middle school math. But you know, who, who remembers that way back then? all right, so there are several ways. We have, we do have a live video stream of this show. M. and so the way to do. To watch that if you want to. And like Tim was hinting at, this isn't this, this isn't a group of Brad Pitts up here. Okay. Most big reason you can do it this way.
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>> Ed Vitagliano: Brad. Oh, Brad.
>> Tim Wildmon: I just. It's gotten ridiculous.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, there's something ridiculous here. I'm not sure exactly.
>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So can I answer this question?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, you can.
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>> Tim Wildmon: One more. You got a plethora, though.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. One more would be a plethora.
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>> Tim Wildmon: All Right. You are listening, to today's issues on American Family Radio. This is a live show. We thank you for joining us every weekday. And, joining us, Jenna usually is on once a week, most weeks. Jenna Ellis, host of Jenna Ellis in the Morning, right here on American Family Radio. she catches you up with current events, what's happening in our world, and, tries to look at everything through a biblical worldview lens. And that says 7 o' clock to 8 o' clock central time. Each weekday morning on American Family Radio, the Jenna Ellison, the morning show. Good morning, Jenna.
>> Jenna Ellis: Good morning, Ed and Brad.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, thank you, I guess. I don't know.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Ed and Brad. So you couldn't come up with something for me?
>> Tim Wildmon: you couldn't just Al Pacino.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Jenna Ellis: Al and Brad. I was. I was gonna go with something from the Sopranos.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Al Pacino? Yeah. Don't give me some of me from the Sopranos. They're all a bunch of fat boys.
>> Jenna Ellis: They like their pizza, though.
>> Caroline: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, let's move on. This is ridiculous.
>> Tim Wildmon: Entering ethics.
>> Ed Vitagliano: If I want to be insulted, I can just go home for lunch.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're definitely entering ethnic stereotype.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Carrot.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We entered and left.
>> Tim Wildmon: Why is it Italians are the only people you can. You can do that to?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I wonder that quite often that's a
>> Chris Woodward: stereotype Irish people started. Yes, Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think Italians just embrace their stereo.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I kind of do.
>> Chris Woodward: Let's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Hey, listen, we. We want. We want attention.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And if it's. If it's bad. Ah, that's fine.
>> Tim Wildmon: Say hello to my little friend.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Better than being ignored.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, as long as there's Italian food around, my friend, people will not be ig.
>> Chris Woodward: My people. That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Your people will not be ignored.
Tim Ferriss: I think math teachers can harm people psychologically
All right, so, Jenna, we. Hey, Tim, we lost Jenna. Give me a second. I'm working to get her back. Where did she. Where'd she go?
>> Wesley Wildmon: We lost her.
>> Tim Wildmon: Another connection. We lost the connection. Oh, we lost the connection. I thought Jenna just wandered off.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm working to get her back. I have a confession to make. Her. Her hurtful comments. I hit the red button.
>> Tim Wildmon: Did you cut her off?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I cut her off.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're a very sensitive man.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm very sensitive.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, well, I don't think anybody
>> Wesley Wildmon: on this show right here is very sensitive.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's probably true.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Anyway, we're better or for worse.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so we're trying to get Janet back on. I don't know what happened right there. Let me tell you. We were talking about math earlier, and, this college professor From UC Berkeley. And I've heard this from other. You hear this from other professors in other subject matter too, that the young people entering college today are not as prepared as previous generations, for. To tackle college level subject matter. Right. In this case, math. And so, that, that was one of the topic we were talking about earlier, but we were talking about algebra. yeah, I remember. I, I aced. I really did. I aced, adding, subtracting.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Multiplying and dividing. I'm talking about, I was making.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Wait, you aced elementary school is what you're saying? Yeah. Nothing. That's, that's, that's, that's an accomplishment.
>> Tim Wildmon: Accomplishment. And then I think it was sixth grade or seventh grade. They started throwing up some letters in our math on the board. Do you remember this?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, sure. 2x plus y. 2x plus y equals 48.
>> Tim Wildmon: even, even as a 13 year old going, why, what's the purpose? Why are you mixing English with M numbers?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: You knew, huh? so I don't know what. That's when you started.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They started having trouble with Matt.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that's when the teacher. I think Wesley mentioned this too. He didn't like this. The teacher. Did this happen to you? The teacher, called on three of us to go up to the board.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, yeah, I remember.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know where I'm going with.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I remember those days.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. so, Mr. Johnson, Ms. Thompson, Mr. Wildmon, you need to come up here and work these problems on the board. And so I would, you know, if you struggle with that, you sort of look back, you step back three steps and see if you can look at the other. Because it's pain, work and the problems.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: See if you can help, that'll help.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: But if you get stuck and you can't get to the end.
>> Jenna Ellis: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's a, that's not a good feeling. So I think math teachers, by calling people can do that, can actually harm people psychologically.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. Rather than you're psychologically harmed by that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: You sound like you're in favor of no grades.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm in favor of getting everybody a 90 and moving on. Socialism. I'm a socialist.
What is it in golf when you just say that you can't get higher than
>> Wesley Wildmon: What is it in golf when you just say that you can't get higher than. You can't get more than a double bogey. Is there?
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, we get mulligans.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, but.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Mulligan.
>> Wesley Wildmon: But you've played in a round of golf. what do you call it? Like a,
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: When you round the golf.
>> Wesley Wildmon: When you play four guys, a scramble, scramble, scramble. And you go and you look at each other. Your favorite best ball. Or.
>> Tim Wildmon: Or that's what we need to do in math.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Take the best ball. Or you just say to your. You say to that, hey, listen, no more than a. No more than a bogey. So if you get to a bogey, just pick it up and go. So that's what they're doing in math.
>> Tim Wildmon: And fifth graders now, they're below 90 scores under 70. All right, let's get back to Jenna, because she's. Who knows when she'll be lost again. You there?
>> Jenna Ellis: I. I am. And, you know, I gotta say, I'm very suspicious of Ed right now.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I think because I'm Italian, right? Is that where you're going with this?
>> Tim Wildmon: Cut you off? He cuts.
>> Wesley Wildmon: You did.
>> Jenna Ellis: I mean, see what happens.
>> Tim Wildmon: So say hello to my little button.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I suppose if your tire comes up slashed, I'll be the first one you accused.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, man, he's.
>> Jenna Ellis: He's. He's got some really good connections there from Mississippi all the way.
>> Ed Vitagliano: yeah, that's right. The Mississippi connection.
Moral relativism and spiritual relativism are problems within Christian community
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so back to the important story we were talking about. Jenna, you were having. We discuss on this network a lot how moral relativism and spiritual relativism, which are connected, are a real problem even within the Christian community, in America today. And you were having a conversation the other day at the dog park, I think that you told me about, and Jeff Shareve, you told him about that, I thought was emblematic of some of the problems that we are facing in the Christian community. You want to talk about that?
>> Jenna Ellis: Yeah, and it's absolutely true and so well said. So, you know, I take my dogs, over to our local dog park, almost daily. And so, you know, I meet my neighbors and people in the community, who also bring their dogs. And, this lady that I was speaking to, she has previously said that she's a Christian, so, you know, take her at her word for that. And we were talking about, the big dog, ah, rescue ranch, and all of the beagles that have been rescued and how terrible animal testing is. And she, said, you know, yeah, it is not okay to treat any living thing like that. And so I said, yeah, that's so true. And did you hear about the Massachusetts governor that recently implemented abortion until birth? And immediately her argument completely changed. And she said, well, it's not for me to impose my medical judgment on anybody else. And I think that's a, you know, very different issue. And so we had this conversation for probably the next, you know, 10 or 15 minutes where I, you know, respectfully but intentionally kind of pressed her on why she would assert her medical judgment for testing on animals, but not assert a medical judgment for killing human babies. I mean, there's such a cognitive dissonance. And at one point, she even tried to invoke her faith and assert that God respects our choices. And I even asked her, I said, well, what do you mean by that? She said, well, we have the freedom to choose, and that's why Jesus died, so we could have a choice in our lives. Which raises a lot of questions about what she personally believes about salvation and a whole host of, you know, theological things.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, she deserved to have her nose pinched at that point, though. I'm glad you didn't do that.
>> Jenna Ellis: But I refrained. But, But, yeah, but. But I did. Instead of just either preaching at her or, or just letting it go and saying, well, you know, we can agree to disagree, I pressed her on why. And she, of course, kept pivoting her argument as the conversation went on. And then at the kind of the conclusion of the conversation, I told her that, okay, well, morality is objective, and the law and the state is here to punish evildoers. That's part of, the legitimacy that God provides to the civil government. And so we do impose our morality in medical decision making. That's the whole scope of medical malpractice. And so, you know, someone needs someone's opinion, and morality is being imposed, and it needs to be the objective standard of God. And I also addressed this whole freedom to choose. Yes, the Bible talks about freedom in Christ, but it's that, we're free from our sin, not free from the consequences of our choices, or free from the measurable difference between right and wrong and good and evil. And so it was. The overall conversation was absolutely wild to me because this is a person who asserts openly that she's a Christian. And then clearly the church that she attends in the area, which I know it's a little bit woke, is not teaching the accurate, true principles of theology. And as much as we talk on this entire network about pro life and the reasons behind all of these things, it's so important to continue doing this because there are so many professing Christians who actually don't know the truth.
You talk about on the pro life abortion. I was going to ask a question on that issue
>> Ed Vitagliano: Go ahead.
>> Caroline: I was.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I was going to ask a question, so. And I've had similar conversations over the years with, especially back in college, I'd had similar conversations. And I always wondered if if they got to see exactly that which they're defending, would it change their mind or. It didn't for me. It didn't seem.
>> Tim Wildmon: You talk about on the pro life abortion.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, we'll stick on that issue, but you could get, you could extrapolate that over into illegal immigration or what,
>> Tim Wildmon: whatever, what is right or wrong and who decides.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Right. So it seems to me, I feel like it, they a lot of people that believe, like the lady you said, I feel like with the being able to go to an abortion clinic, see the baby or. I know this can get kind of graphic, but all the things that we've talked about over the years as a pro lifer, if she were to see exactly what she was defending, do you think that would change your mind or you think it just a matter of education or. Go ahead.
>> Jenna Ellis: Yeah. I don't know what would necessarily change this individual person, but I love that the pro life argument and the pro life community is trying to force people who are pro abortion or who don't want to take a position and say, well it's not for me to impose my beliefs on you, to actually see what it is they're defending. And Congressman Brandon Gill has been so good at this recently by asking leftists who come in to the congressional hearings, what's your favorite method of abortion? And please describe it. They won't because they know that babies feel pain. They know that it is a hideous, horrendous, evil practice. And if you notice all of the entertainment media never actually shows abortion procedures, medical shows and TV dramas, they'll show all kinds of, you know, blood and gore and they'll show all kinds of surgeries and other life saving things.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're not going to go inside an abortion clinic.
>> Jenna Ellis: No, they will never show that. Why? Because then it's, it's absolutely indefensible. But I think the interesting thing here is that so many women in particular have a false understanding that if we outlaw and criminalize the abortion procedure then somehow if a woman needs actual life saving care that's related to a pregnancy or then, then she's not going to get that. And that's what I hear over and over, especially from women in Florida during, you know, all of the pro life discussions. And I think that's a huge misnomer that we do need to educate on,
>> Ed Vitagliano: you know, probably about 15 years ago, it may be 20 now, so I can't remember this lady's name, but I wrote an article for our magazine. by the way folks, you need to sign up to get the Stand magazine. It is excellent. but I wrote this article, I read this, it was just stunning to me. This was a member, a documentary filmmaker, ah, a lady, younger lady, in the UK and her dad was the by number of abortions a year, the top abortionist in the country in Great Britain. And she was doing a documentary about abortion and she watched one of these films that show an abortion, you know, from inside. So it's graphic. And I remember her writing, she wrote an article about it and she said as I was watching it, she said my hand and I was watching this unborn child being dismembered. she said. My hand flew to my mouth and in my mind I knew this was murder. She said, but that was my emotional reaction. And once I got over that I realized this still has to be about logic. And then she went back to the choice argument and when. And I wrote that was so stunning to me and so revealing because on Judgment Day God is going to talk about God not respecting your choices. God, I don't know how this works when people stand before God, but the conscience is going to empty the contents and the truth about what we knew, about what we do and about what we approve is going to come out and no one's going to be able to do a two step and get, get around what their conscience showed them. But people do this all the time. This lady is sidestepping the lady Jenna's talking to. The lady Jenna's talking about was talking to and for them to be Christians. But the stunning thing was this woman saw, I'm talking now, I'm switching women. This is the woman in the uk, she saw what was happening in this abortion. She knew it was murder, but she suppressed that knowledge in unrighteousness. And if a ah, Christian is going to a church that won't preach the truth, how's anybody going to Penetrate that hardened conscience? This is a difficult thing that the church is going through. I don't understand pastors who won't preach the truth.
>> Chris Woodward: I think pastors need to preach more on life. I'm not saying it needs to be the focus of every Sunday sermon, but they need to preach more on life outside of January, which is the sanctity of human life for sure.
>> Tim Wildmon: Let me tell you another thing related to the topic we're talking about here and what we're talking about basically folks, is that a lot of Christians have a messed up worldview and it's illogical, but they bought the ideas of the world rather than the ideas of the Bible. And then they, I think a lot of it is. They just don't want to oppose the pop culture. and so it's easier just to say, you know, something, but here's the. Here's the. Here's this, escape hatch that a lot of politicians have used over the years, especially Democrats. Back to Bill Clinton and Joe Biden, even, because you go, Joe Biden is supposed to be a devout Roman Catholic, and yet the Roman Catholic Church teaches abortion is a mortal sin, don't they? Isn't that true?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Jenna Ellis: Yeah. You're not supposed to be able to
>> Tim Wildmon: take the Eucharist if you, if you approve of or do an abortion. Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So you go to hell. So. So a mortal sin is one that can, if it's unconfessed and unrepentant, can send to hell.
>> Tim Wildmon: So here's what. And you've heard other Protestant Christians use this, too. This is not exclusive to the Roman Catholic, politicians, but Roman. But, Joe, they would, they'll say something like this. I'm personally opposed to abortion, but I don't believe I have the right to tell another person what they can't do, can or can't do with their body. That just. You just. They just want to start playing the national anthem right there. That sounds so American.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, it does.
>> Jenna Ellis: Well, let me just.
>> Tim Wildmon: Chevrolet or a Ford? I'm not going to impose my ideas that I want a Chevrolet on, just because I want a Ford. Go ahead, Jen.
>> Jenna Ellis: And that's exactly where this woman that I was talking to pivoted to. And she said, well, it's not for me. I don't even think it's for the politicians, but it's not for me to impose my choices. I think that's just for the physician. And I said, well, then how did you, your, your Florida resident, how did you vote on Amendment 4 when we. Which was the abortion tourism amendment? I said, because the government at that point is asking you as a citizen to weigh in, so you had to choose the option of whether you stood for life or whether you. You were going to choose to allow this. And she goes, oh, well, I don't remember that. And I said, you know, so it was clearly uncomfortable with the question. And I said, well, do you remember how you voted? And she said, oh, I probably just didn't vote on that because I don't want to impose my choice on anyone else.
Many politicians who say they're personally opposed to abortion never explain why
>> Chris Woodward: The.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, one other. Let me finish my thought here before it escapes Me, so all these years in watching politicians who, you know, especially presidential, who say they're personally opposed to abortion, they're trying to have it both ways right there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: But m. They're never asked by the interviewer who most of the time are liberal themselves, but they're never asked the natural follow up question, why are you personally opposed? Explain to me why are you personally opposed? We're not going to talk about, you don't impose your views on other people. I just want to know why you personally are opposed.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: If they have to explain that, then is, then you go, so what would they say? Well, it's personal. I'm personally opposed because religious views, because it's arguably the taking of human life. So you may say, so you're personally opposed to something you say could be murder or could be the taking of innocent human life. You're personally opposed to that, but you don't want to impose that view. You see what I'm saying?
>> Ed Vitagliano: It's like saying I'm personally opposed to slavery, but I don't want to impose my slave owner on a slave owner
>> Tim Wildmon: on my fellow man who wants to be a slave owner. Yeah, it's just there's a, there's a moral. When somebody says I'm personally opposed to something, you're going like, well, there must, you must have a moral check about it and explain to me why that is or what that is.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So, Jenna, you think this lady's gonna talk to you in the future if she sees you at the dog park?
>> Jenna Ellis: I've seen her since then. And we've, you know, we've, had other conversations because I wanted to make, make sure to leave it on a good note.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Jenna Ellis: I just said, you know, I hope that you as a Christian think about this and really pray about it. Because of course, she said, you know, well, and pro lifers only care about children in the womb. And I said, no, no, we don't. We actually care from the moment of conception all the way till natural death. That's why we oppose a physician assisted suicide, completed life, bills, other things.
>> Tim Wildmon: She's got all the, all the, cliches of the talking point.
>> Chris Woodward: You know what it is? Her pastor.
>> Jenna Ellis: Fascinating.
>> Chris Woodward: Her pastor probably is the type that gives the seven bullet points on how to have a great week when you need a swift kick in the pants from the Holy Spirit.
>> Jenna Ellis: But, but the bottom line is that I'm glad that I told her. I'm glad I kept the relationship open to talk to her in the future. This is why we need to have conversations with our neighbors. And if I hadn't brought up the topic, we wouldn't have talked about it. So we need to be more bold, even at places.
>> Tim Wildmon: So you didn't end with, you're an idiot.
>> : It.
>> Jenna Ellis: I was thinking that.
>> Tim Wildmon: I think that would. That would probably shut down any further discussion.
>> Jenna Ellis: Exactly. No. She's kind, and I. I am praying
>> Tim Wildmon: for nicer than Jesus. That's what a lot of Christians are.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, on another note. Jenna.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Watch your back.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Jenna Ellis: My connection stayed.
>> Ed.
>> Jenna Ellis: Ow.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we'll be back down. we'll be back in five minutes.
>> Jenna Ellis: The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.
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Back home, the program looks at the influence of the Democratic Socialists of America as Oliver Larkin challenges Rep. Jared Moskowitz in Florida's 25th Congressional District on a platform that includes abolishing ICE. Byron Donalds weighs in on David Jolly in Florida's governor's race, while Marc Thiessen addresses the relationship between Democrats and democratic socialists.
Professor Nicholas Giordano responds to concerns about college students struggling with middle school math, and Mississippi State Senator Angela Hill discusses the state's improving reading and math scores. The show also covers social media's impact on teens, an alleged Penn State cocaine trafficking ring, Terry Moran's criticism of ABC News, and President Trump's White House recognition of a teen lifeguard.
Chapters:
(00:00) The American Family Association's mission is to strengthen moral foundations of our culture
(00:32) Tim Wildman offers a Christian response to the issues of the day
(04:27) The change sparked massive public outrage; Coke reversed course 77 days later
(06:45) Two largest reservoirs in the US have fallen to record lows as drought grips Western
(11:18) Chris Griffith: Two names to watch in today's Democratic primaries
(16:00) A professor at Berkeley says students are not prepared for college math
(22:32) Friend: Some students are five to eight years behind in math
(24:59) 80% of abortion vulnerable women choose life after seeing baby on ultrasound
(26:22) American Family Radio provides timely, accurate information on family news
(28:07) Ed: If folks want to watch this show, there are several ways
(29:53) Ed and Brad welcome you to American Family Radio each weekday morning
(31:46) Tim Ferriss: I think math teachers can harm people psychologically
(35:06) What is it in golf when you just say that you can't get higher than
(36:14) Moral relativism and spiritual relativism are problems within Christian community
(40:19) You talk about on the pro life abortion. I was going to ask a question on that issue
(48:29) Many politicians who say they're personally opposed to abortion never explain why
President Trump raises the stakes in the Middle East, threatening military action against Oman if it interferes with efforts surrounding Iran and the Strait of Hormuz. Jared Kushner says an agreement with Iran remains far from settled and urges patience as negotiations continue.
Back home, the program looks at the influence of the Democratic Socialists of America as Oliver Larkin challenges Rep. Jared Moskowitz in Florida's 25th Congressional District on a platform that includes abolishing ICE. Byron Donalds weighs in on David Jolly in Florida's governor's race, while Marc Thiessen addresses the relationship between Democrats and democratic socialists.
Professor Nicholas Giordano responds to concerns about college students struggling with middle school math, and Mississippi State Senator Angela Hill discusses the state's improving reading and math scores. The show also covers social media's impact on teens, an alleged Penn State cocaine trafficking ring, Terry Moran's criticism of ABC News, and President Trump's White House recognition of a teen lifeguard.
Chapters:
(00:00) The American Family Association's mission is to strengthen moral foundations of our culture
(00:32) Tim Wildman offers a Christian response to the issues of the day
(04:27) The change sparked massive public outrage; Coke reversed course 77 days later
(06:45) Two largest reservoirs in the US have fallen to record lows as drought grips Western
(11:18) Chris Griffith: Two names to watch in today's Democratic primaries
(16:00) A professor at Berkeley says students are not prepared for college math
(22:32) Friend: Some students are five to eight years behind in math
(24:59) 80% of abortion vulnerable women choose life after seeing baby on ultrasound
(26:22) American Family Radio provides timely, accurate information on family news
(28:07) Ed: If folks want to watch this show, there are several ways
(29:53) Ed and Brad welcome you to American Family Radio each weekday morning
(31:46) Tim Ferriss: I think math teachers can harm people psychologically
(35:06) What is it in golf when you just say that you can't get higher than
(36:14) Moral relativism and spiritual relativism are problems within Christian community
(40:19) You talk about on the pro life abortion. I was going to ask a question on that issue
(48:29) Many politicians who say they're personally opposed to abortion never explain why
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