Tim Wildman: American Family association plans historic spiritual heritage tours in 2026

>> Chris Woodward: Hello, everyone.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm, Tim Wildmon, president of American Family association and American Family Radio. Hey, the tours we've got planned in 2026 are going to be fantastic. They're historical spiritual heritage tours. For the information all about them, the DC, the Williamsburg, the Boston tours, go to wildmangroup.com wildmon m.group.com and we hope to see you on one of our 2026 spiritual heritage tours.

Tim Wildman hosts Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network

>> Chris Woodward: Welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian.

>> Tim Wildmon: Response to the issues of the day.

>> Chris Woodward: here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to afr. I am Tim Wildmon, as the announcer just told you, and in the, warm, cozy studio with me right now is Fred Jackson. Good morning, brother Fred.

>> Fred Jackson: Good morning. And that's going to feel so good. If we miss that storm, we're going.

>> Tim Wildmon: To talk about it, all right? Chris Woodward's in here. Good morning, brother Chris.

>> Chris Woodward: Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: And brother Ray Pritchard.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, what's up, Tim?

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, Ray, you escaped Kansas City for the winter. I don't know what the weather they're having there. I don't think they're going to hit the snowstorm.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, listen to this in a, in a fluke of scheduling.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: tomorrow, we are flying back to Kansas City. We are renting a car and driving down near Wichita, where they're expecting 8 to 12 inches of snow because I'm supposed to speak in a Bible conference starting Sunday morning. And the low in Whitewater, Kansas, Sunday night is minus six. Minus six.

>> Fred Jackson: Can I, can I be a prophet.

>> Tim Wildmon: For a second, please? Do somebody inject some, some hope here.

>> Fred Jackson: Ray, you ain't going. You ain't going nowhere.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, I don't think we're ever going to see Ray again.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. I'm gonna, I'm gonna be at the bottom of a snow drift somewhere.

>> Tim Wildmon: And today, ladies and gentlemen, in the Flint Hills of Kansas was discovered, a man.

>> Chris Woodward: And the frozen tundra rerouted, to Phoenix.

>> Tim Wildmon: To quote from some.

>> Tim Wildmon: I got to talk to my booking.

>> Tim Wildmon: I know, which is. Quote from some onlooker, quote, he was an idiot. Thank you.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, I want to see the look on the face of the, the airline person when you walk up. Where are you going today?

>> Tim Wildmon: You are serious? You're serious.

>> Tim Wildmon: Totally seriously.

>> Tim Wildmon: You got tomorrow. You got to fly from Tampa. Is that where you wait?

>> Tim Wildmon: Is currently 67 going up to 75 this afternoon.

>> Tim Wildmon: You got to fly over the snowstorm. Snow and ice storm.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Look down on us here in Tupelo.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wave at us while we don't have any power.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: And then you. But then you're going to go land in Kansas City, get in a car.

>> Tim Wildmon: And drive down toward Wichita where there is a ton.

>> Tim Wildmon: they haven't canceled this yet?

>> Tim Wildmon: Not yet. Not yet. I don't, this. There's hearty people out there. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: We don't cancel.

>> Chris Woodward: Hey, Ray.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, we get.

>> Chris Woodward: Keep believing.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, I am.

About a third of the country is about to be impacted by winter storm

All right, so pack your long johns.

>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, we've got about, a third of the country is about to be impacted by this, winter storm that's going to go from, I guess, almost West Texas all the way to the. To Washington D.C. i mean, that's a big swath of the lot of our radio stations are impacted. So, before we, Brent Creely, our producer here on today's issues, who's also the assistant, director here. I don't know what, what's your title for the network?

>> Fred Jackson: Associate director.

>> Tim Wildmon: Radio. Associate Director of radio. you're number two, behind Jonathan, right? That's right. in terms of, overseeing the radio network now, what I'm going to assume we're going to be off the air. Well, let me just say this. I don't know if we'll be off the air. I don't think we're going to be doing live programming here on Monday for the most part. Yes, sir. The way it looks now, and I'm talking about our, Our area where our main studios are located in Tupelo, Mississippi. We're supposed to get freezing rain on Saturday all day, pretty much. And then Sunday again. I don't know when it stops, but that's the worst. You'd rather have sleet, you'd rather have snow, freezing rain. It's like the end of the world's happening. when. So my question to you is, what will we be doing here on Monday? if we lose, we. If we can't. If our. If our staff can't come into work? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. If staff can't come into work, we don't have show host, that kind of thing. We have pre records that are lined up. Best of that are lined up. We will still have programming going on, but it'll be pre records. And best of what are we going to do Monday on this show? If Monday we have, a best of trivia Friday, that We can air. Okay, so we're gonna laugh and whoop it up while everybody's out of power. Yes, sir.

>> Fred Jackson: Okay, I got it. Why not? Why not?

>> Tim Wildmon: Gotta have some fun while you're. While you're freezing.

>> Fred Jackson: Total misery.

Fred says he's prepared for any kind of apocalypse, including zombie apocalypse

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so, here's where generators are. Premium, am I right? And my prepper son, Walker. I have three kids. Three adult children. One of them's a prepper. Prepper is Fred. Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: Ready for anything.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. You know, they're ready for the apocalypse.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Any kind of apocalypse. You got you, you know, whatever. Snow apocalypse. You got your, what do you call it when the people. Dead people run around in your yard?

>> Tim Wildmon: Zombie. Oh, the zombie apocalypse.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, the zombie apocalypse. We got the zombie apocalypse. So he's prepared for any kind of apocalypse and he's got a generator. I should have told him because now his neighbors are listening. And, he wanted it to be, you know, a secret. You know, I'm so. That way you don't have to share with others. In a good Christian spirit, do you.

>> Fred Jackson: Like to give the address on the air?

>> Tim Wildmon: So the. So the whole neighborhood comes over to my house because I was the only one willing to spend three grand on a generator. And they want to use my buddy burner. Now I got it. All right. so hopefully this won't be as bad as they're saying it could be. But you got to plan for the worst.

>> Fred Jackson: and I was not here in 1994 in the Tupelo area when. But I've been told stories.

>> Chris Woodward: It was, in a word, awful.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. What happens? And many people listening across the country have seen snowstorms. I mean, seen, ice storms in their lifetime. and it's. It is. But, yeah, the one that hit our region in 1994, actually, it was so bad that, one of our towers in the Mississippi Delta, I think it was a 300 foot tower. It got so much ice from the freezing rain that collected on it that it collapsed. Can you imagine?

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Then thank God nobody was hurt. you have. We had land around there. It was out. Out in a field. But, that, that can happen. You get. You get ice build up on these, and that's what happens with especially your pine trees. And we're pine tree country right here. Every pine needle becomes a weapon, basically. If you have freezing rain and that. And that builds up and builds up and builds up.

>> Fred Jackson: So it's a two weeks. People without power.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, two to four.

>> Fred Jackson: Two to four.

>> Tim Wildmon: Two to four. And you know, I'm thinking Around, all these, the power companies around the country are so good to help each other. You know, when we see hurricanes hit the Gulf coast, all of us see the trucks coming from Ohio and Iowa and Oklahoma, and they're. They're all going to help the folks in Florida or Louisiana, whatever. Well, in this case, you're going to have potentially a larger swath of the country affected by. I was looking at the weather for Texarkana. you know, same thing. Freezing rain. So if freezing rain comes all the way through Arkansas, north Mississippi, Tennessee, it's going to be. It could potentially be people, without power for weeks. Yeah, that could potentially happen. Hopefully it won't. Prayerfully, it won't, but it may happen. All right. You're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network.

Fred says he bought six dozen eggs and resells them for double price

Okay, one other thing related to this, and I want you guys to tell me if I did wrong or not. Ray, you ready for this one? I went out to Kroger and I bought, like, six dozen eggs. Okay. And I brought them to the office, and I'm reselling them for double what I paid for them. Is that against the Bible? Right?

>> Tim Wildmon: That's. That's the American way.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. That's what I thought I was being an entrepreneur.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.

>> Fred Jackson: And.

>> Tim Wildmon: And. But I am. the people didn't have to go buy them.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: So I saved them that.

>> Tim Wildmon: You saved them the trouble. Saved them again.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. I just didn't know if I should feel bad about exploiting, you know, exploiting your best friends. Yeah, in times. In times.

>> Tim Wildmon: Co workers.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, So I. Should. I. All right. What about that, Fred?

>> Fred Jackson: But $3 an egg may be a bit much.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, okay. You know, Fred, for you, $2 an egg. Oh, thank you.

>> Fred Jackson: Thank you.

>> Tim Wildmon: I feel good.

>> Chris Woodward: I think you may have violated Leviticus 19:11.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, is that what I violated, Chris? Yeah, I was wondering about that when I was buying them.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Am I going to violate Leviticus?

>> Chris Woodward: so, modern Translations of Leviticus 19, 11 and 13 tell us, do not steal, don't deceive or cheat one another.

>> Tim Wildmon: verse 13 says, I'm just not selling them for less than $2 an egg.

>> Chris Woodward: Verse 13 says, you shall not oppress your neighbor or rob him.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, okay, well.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that's a pesky verse.

>> Tim Wildmon: I know.

>> Chris Woodward: Anyway, you know, but we're in the age of grace. That's Leviticus. I don't know. Talk amongst.

>> Tim Wildmon: I just thought I was. I was obeying the commandment to, you know, to help people in Need. And so I bought all these eggs. I'm just reselling them, making a little profit.

>> Tim Wildmon: An active.

>> Chris Woodward: I just want to know where you got six dozen eggs.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I know people who have chickens. I did go to Kroger, but.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: Hey, interestingly enough, a minute ago.

What the coldest wind chill ever recorded in the US is

any ideas from you guys ahead of Trivia Friday? What the coldest wind chill ever recorded in the US Is.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hold on a second before you answer that or continue that.

>> Chris Woodward: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Are you talking about the continental United States? Are you talking about Alaska continental United States? Okay, you're asking me what the coldest.

>> Chris Woodward: Wind chill ever recorded in the US.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wind chill ever recorded? Yes. Okay. I'm going to guess that's in Minnesota. Yeah, I'm going to guess it's in Minnesota.

>> Fred Jackson: That'd be my.

>> Tim Wildmon: Maybe North Dakota.

>> Chris Woodward: What do you think it was? Temperature was.

>> Fred Jackson: Oh, minus 50.

>> Tim Wildmon: yeah, something like that. Minus 50, more than that. What are you going to say? Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: 70.

>> Tim Wildmon: Minus 70. Okay, go ahead.

>> Chris Woodward: I'm looking at several News articles from 2023 as saying this, but supposedly, supposedly, the coldest wind chill ever recorded in the US was negative 108 degrees on Mount Washington, NewSong Hampshire in February of 2023, during what's described as a brutal polar vortex with air temperatures around negative 47 and hurricane force winds.

>> Tim Wildmon: A brutal what?

>> Chris Woodward: A brutal polar vortex.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is there ever been a non brutal?

>> Chris Woodward: Probably not. Probably not.

>> Tim Wildmon: Do we have like a nice, vortex come down?

>> Tim Wildmon: I think too often.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, call me, you know, call me superstitious or call me, conspiratorial. But I think Canada's Fred, your home countries were getting revenge.

>> Tim Wildmon: They're behind this somehow.

>> Tim Wildmon: They got tired of Trump saying he's going to make them the 51st. Yeah. You really want this? By golly. We'll show you what you're getting then. Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: That brings new meaning to the War of Northern Aggression. Canada is involved here.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. When Canada gets upset, it doesn't blow hot air.

>> Tim Wildmon: Really cold air.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, my word, my word, my word.

Minnesota woman who disrupted Minneapolis church service arrested for allegedly disrupting service

All right. Okay. So, you are listening to today's issues on afr. Chris, what's our first story?

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, just before, our day started here at the, AFA headquarters, Attorney General Pam Bondi said a Minnesota woman who led that anti immigration enforcement, protest that disrupted a service at a Baptist church in Minneapolis has been arrested.

>> Tim Wildmon: Pam.

>> Chris Woodward: Bondi made the announcement on X. the lady arrested is Nakima Levy Armstrong, who has done various media appearances in recent days, claiming that she did nothing wrong when she and other people busted up in this, Minneapolis Baptist Church and caused, some havoc. we can play that audio now. It's clip nine.

>> Frank Gaffney: That was said in the beginning. We did not rush into that church. And I do want to correct something that was said in the beginning. We did not rush into that church. We actually went and sat down and participated in the service. And after the pastor prayed, that is when I stood up and asked him a question in, response to his prayer, and then he responded to me, and then I proceeded to ask him about Pastor David Easterwood and how is it possible for him to serve as both a pastor and the director of ICE from Minnesota. And instead of responding to me, as soon as I said the name David Easterwood, the pastor says, shame, shame. And that is when I let us enchant justice for Renee. Good. And he ends up. Don't shoot. So I want to clarify that. We didn't rush in. We didn't bust in. We were a part of the service until I got up and posed that question to the pastor.

>> Chris Woodward: The federal government says otherwise.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Well, what she being charged with, she'll.

>> Fred Jackson: Like to be charged under the Face Act. The Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act. Yes. It does primarily have to deal with protesters outside of abortion clinics, but Republicans agreed to pass this bill if they include it in the Face act. Disrupting church services.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so listen, I'm completely and totally against what these people did. It was awful. They disrupted a church service for these folks, in Minneapolis. However, looking at it from a lawful, question about the law array, I mean, they went in. Okay, follow me. Now. Don't, don't, don't say, well, you're on their side. No, I'm not on their side. I'm asking a legal question.

>> Fred Jackson: Ah.

>> Tim Wildmon: I know we're not lawyers here, but can you charge somebody for if. If it happened like she said it happened? Right. Can you charge somebody or even a group of people for going into a church? That's not illegal. Right. In fact, churches are welcoming. They want more people charged. You go in, you sit down, and you don't disrupt the service. Okay? You don't. You're not up there taking over, shouting, pushing, you know what I'm saying? Got, a m. Megaphone or whatever the case may be, and you just sit there. And then after the church service is over, she said, then you ask a question that's not illegal. Right. so I don't know. Unless they made some kind of a threat to anyone there on the premises, this May not go anywhere. because again, if, if, if it happened like this woman said it happened, the Justice Department, the United States Justice Department may be bringing these charges because it's a technical and, you know, maybe it's a. Just to scare these folks.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Or to put them in their place. That makes. Does that. Fred, how do you see this? And then Ray can come in. Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: Well, the, the problem for, this lady, Nakima Levy Armstrong is there's a copious am. video that would dispute her assessment of this. first of all, they were in the middle of a church service. It wasn't before, it wasn't after. The preacher was delivering his sermon. That's when they come in to. That's when they come into, the church sanctuary. So they disrupted the service. And if you look at many of the videos that have come out there, you've got this other guy who I expect will also be charged. You've got this other guy who is just screaming in the face of one of the parishioners. So, you know, that's her spin on it right now. We'll see what happens.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, you go ahead, Ray.

>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead.

>> Tim Wildmon: okay. One part of it is abundantly we can agree with this woman. It's not as if four buses pulled up, chanting, yelling and screaming as they tried to force their way into the church.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: No. So we all agree on that. They walked in and took their place and they found a seat. And Tim, your larger point is exactly right. If they had come in, sat quietly, listened to the whole service, said nothing, not interrupted, not disrupted the stuff.

Disrupting worship service where children are present is a threat and a danger

Fred, that you were talking about. If they just done what normal visitors to a church did and then walked out and made statements out on the sidewalk, I don't think anybody would be getting arrested. But what they did by disrupting a worship service, they may say, well, we didn't threaten anybody. Disrupting a worship service where children are present, that is a threat and a danger. And frankly, in some churches, something very bad might have happened in retaliation.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's a very good point. That answers my question that I posed. Go ahead.

>> Chris Woodward: Well, I was going to say everything to build off the fantastic points already made here. To answer your question, I'm not a lawyer. I have a BA in communication from an agricultural and mechanical university. But I'm looking at the language of the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances and Places of Religious Worship Act. It says the act prohibits the use or threat of force and physical obstruction, that injures, intimidates, or interferes with a Person seeking to exercise the First Amendment right of religious freedom at a place of religious worship. It also prohibits intentional property damage of a facility, providing a place of religious worship. So based on that thing that I just read, the government's going to have a really good case to make here that she did violate this if they do pursue these charges.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, you're listening to today's issues. If you want to send us an email, as long as it's positive and encouraging, that's a K love email is what we call it. Positive and encouraging. Go to commentsfr.netcommentsfr.net Next story. Chris.

Chris: Was Greenland preparing for our invasion, according to Fox News reporter

>> Chris Woodward: All right, from Minnesota to Greenland, a place that some might say has.

>> Tim Wildmon: Where is it colder today, Chris? Minnesota or Greenland, I don't know.

>> Chris Woodward: But I could take the rest of this show to thank you and Fred for not sending me to do a live report in Greenland. Like foxes, Lucas Tomlinson yesterday, God bless.

>> Tim Wildmon: Him, who, who was in, who was in Greenland? Fox News.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, Lucas Tomlinson, he does national security stuff for Fox News Channel. Great reporter. And he was doing live cut ins from Greenland.

>> Tim Wildmon: Was Greenland preparing for our invasion?

>> Chris Woodward: according to his, news report. Yeah. Because, prior to what I'm about to talk about this framework and I'm using air quotes, Lucas had talked about how the Danes and other, European countries had sent troops over there.

>> Tim Wildmon: The Danes.

>> Chris Woodward: The Danes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, the Danes, yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: Not dames.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Yeah, I misunderstood.

>> Fred Jackson: It's amazing. One letter N. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well.

President Trump announced a framework on a deal involving Greenland yesterday

>> Chris Woodward: Anyway, so President Trump, he's got this framework of Greenland up there. and this was news that broke yesterday. It really drove the rest of the news cycle for us on afn.

>> Tim Wildmon: What broke, Chris?

>> Chris Woodward: Well, President Trump announced what he called a framework on a deal involving Greenland. Okay. And that resulted in a lot of people going, well, you know, I need more details and stuff like that. President Trump did do a TV hit with Fox's Maria Bartiromo to talk about his framework. And I'm using air quotes because that's the term that keeps being, put out there. Here's the President himself. Clip 1.

>> Fred Jackson: It's really being negotiated now, the details of it, but essentially it's total access. there's no end, there's no time limit.

>> Tim Wildmon: A piece of it, yes.

>> Fred Jackson: And it's a very important part because.

>> Tim Wildmon: It'S everything comes over Greenland.

>> Fred Jackson: if the bad guys start shooting.

>> Tim Wildmon: It comes over Greenland.

>> Fred Jackson: So we knock it down.

>> Chris Woodward: Now if you're wanting more information, it's still to come because we're all questioning what exactly this framework is?

>> Tim Wildmon: What is this? What's President Trump talking about there?

>> Fred Jackson: Well, the big news first was that, he's not going to take Greenland by force, which he has led people to believe that what he believed in. That was the big news first. Secondly, what it appears is that, President Trump in that interview with Fox, said the golden dome that he's talked about, in other words, weapons originating from space, that the golden dome will cover, that portion of Greenland that he feels is necessary to stop the Russians from shooting at us. So the end, there's going to be a greater military presence beyond the golden dome. There is going to be a greater US Military presence in Greenland than we have right now.

>> Tim Wildmon: It sounds like to me that President Trump, okay, so he did threaten to use military.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: To take over Greenland because he said we're going to have it. Yes. And you're telling me he went to Davos, or Davos, this World Economic Forum, he gave a speech and he said, I've taken that back.

>> Tim Wildmon: We're not going to do that. Right. But then he goes on this TV show and says, we got everything we wanted anyway. That's what I heard.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is that what you heard, Ray?

>> Tim Wildmon: That's, that's right.

>> Chris Woodward: I mean, he got what he wanted without fire.

>> Tim Wildmon: He didn't have to fire a weapon. He's got everything he wanted. Wow.

>> Fred Jackson: The art of the deal.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's pretty amazing. But would Greenland and Denmark say he got everything he wanted or are they going to say. No.

>> Fred Jackson: I, think, What the head of NATO, I'm not sure if we had.

>> Tim Wildmon: NATO, North American Treaty Alliance. yes.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, he seems quite happy about this.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, we don't have the audio from the head of NATO, whose name is Mark Ruti. but he did say yesterday and Fox ran this, we aired the same sound bites in our newscast. He did say that Greenland is important for national security purposes, which plays right into what President Trump's been saying.

>> Tim Wildmon: For what nation? What nation?

>> Chris Woodward: Well, basically we want to use it as some sort of defense against Russia or China, should they do things militarily in the, the Arctic.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, I'm,

>> Tim Wildmon: But Denmark is still going to control Greenland, correct?

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. They're not giving up the sovereignty.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, except they are Trump right there.

>> Chris Woodward: We'll control the water, they can have the land.

>> Tim Wildmon: I know. Maybe they're going to work out some kind of deal Right. Short of us. Take, short. Short of us, having to sending the 82nd Airborne, sending the US Navy to take on their fishing boats. That's right. all right, well, maybe it'll all work out for everybody. We can all sing Kumbaya.

>> Fred Jackson: There you go.

>> Tim Wildmon: We'll be back. We'll be back momentarily.

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Tim: We just had a homeschool group from Mississippi stop by

>> Chris Woodward: Back to more of today's issues.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio. I'm Tim with Fred and Chris and Ray. We thank you for listening to AFR. We just had a homeschool group from Guntown, Mississippi, which is about 20 minutes from us, 30 minutes from us. But they stopped by, bought a bunch of good looking kids and, they're, they're seeing our studios and offices and they're taking a tour. They're getting free popcorn. Yes, it's the best popcorn around. There you go. And they're getting it free. so I did charge them for the eggs.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: That I saw. I sold them some of the eggs that I bought because the, you know, the homeschool discount. I gave him the home school. Yeah. A dollar and a half an egg.

>> Tim Wildmon: That seems like a fair deal to me.

>> Chris Woodward: You know, hey, committed a math lesson.

>> Tim Wildmon: I think you're supposed to take advantage of people when they're desperate. That's what if you look at the book of Hebrews. Am I Right, Ray?

>> Tim Wildmon: Hezekiah 7, 14.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, people, for you literalists out there, do not call me do not email and say that is wrong of Tim Hm. To do that to other people.

>> Chris Woodward: That's the twv.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Okay, so. I'm just kidding. All right, calm down. All right, so let's see what's next on the itinerary.

American Family Association is unashamedly pro life

Well, on the agenda we have been, you've been hearing us this week promote pre born. And we've been doing this for years and years. It's, you know, folks, we're, we're pro life here at American Family Association, American Family Radio, unashamedly pro life. We believe what the Bible teaches and what science teaches, and that is that human life begins at conception. And God says it's worthy of protection because God cares about each human life. So that is why we're pro life. You know, the baby, the baby will be born if it's not killed. You have conception, sperm and egg, biology class, sixth grade, right? Sperm and the egg unites, life begins. And that life will be born as a baby to that woman. if it's not killed. Killing the baby in the womb is a sin, okay? It's immoral. And it's, it's, it's, it's, it's taking the life of an innocent human being. So if you wonder what motivates pro lifers, it's saving the life of the baby, first and foremost. And then it's also, ah, ministering to. That's what preborn does. The, the woman, or in a lot of cases, the young teenage girl who's pregnant having the baby. And so, you know, you don't need a law. We don't, we don't count. We don't need the Supreme Court to do anything. We don't need the government to do anything to do. Pro life ministry, like preborn does and AFR supports their work and we have for years and years. Joining us is a gentleman who started PreBorn, who God gave the vision for preborn. And that's Dan Steiner, who's the president and founder of PreBorn Dang.

It's going to be one below here this weekend, Tim says

Good, morning to you.

>> Frank Gaffney: Joy to be here, Tim. Thanks for the opportunity.

>> Tim Wildmon: You still did. I have you pegged right. Aren't you in Indiana?

>> Frank Gaffney: Yes, sir. Frigid Indiana. It's going to be one below here this weekend.

>> Tim Wildmon: One below. You know, that's right below.2 below. You see what I did there, Dan? See what I did there? Yeah. That was not funny, but appreciate, your courtesy laugh there. Anyway, one belows. One below is right below. Two below. You get that, Fred?

>> Fred Jackson: I got.

American Family Radio has been providing ultrasounds since 2006

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. So Dan, when did, when did preborn, start? And what. Where did you get the name for the ministry?

>> Frank Gaffney: You know, it started 20 years ago. This is their 20th anniversary, Tim. We're celebrating having a big to do throughout the course of the year here, with a goal to give every ultrasound. Every clinic in America that needs a new ultrasound. A new ultrasound. This year we're going to just celebrate in that way. But yeah, 2006, and it started out originally as Mission PreBorn. And then one of your programs, a guy by the name of Dan Celia, kept calling it PreBorn. He wouldn't say Mission PreBorn. So I thought, hey, that's easier to write anyway, you know, and it really gets right to the point. So then we truncated it's PreBorn. So here we are.

>> Tim Wildmon: And how long have we been affiliated with you guys?

>> Frank Gaffney: I was asking Sarah. I'm thinking probably going on 10 years here at least, Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wow. So how many. I know you're just guessing. I'm just going to ask you to take a. Not holding you to the exact number obviously, but over those 10 years, listeners to American Family Radio have made contributions to help pre born in your work. How many, how many ultrasounds have we provided? Would you say our listeners. Thousand? A thousand? Two thousand? Three thousand one?

>> Frank Gaffney: Thousands?

>> Tim Wildmon: Tens of thousands?

>> Frank Gaffney: Absolutely. So no exaggeration.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so let me get this right, just to be elementary here. I know m. Many people already know this, but so somebody, somebody listening right now for example, wants to make a gift of $100. Okay. That, that lets you pre born provide three, almost four. Not completely because it's $28 for each ultrasound, that almost provides four ultrasounds. So each ultrasound is potentially saving the life of a human, of a baby because the mother is watching the ultrasound and that's the hope that we have that, that will convince her to give the baby up for adoption or keep the baby. Is that right?

>> Frank Gaffney: Yeah, that's right. 80, 80% of the time. Usually our clinic in Orlando, which will be down there next week, getting out of this one book is like 98% of the time it changes their minds. Wow, that is a fantastic investment of $28. Every $28 contribution, or you know, 5 for 140 or 10 for 280 goes directly to our network care providing clinics to give these help offset the cost of giving them an ultrasound. And it's the most effective weapon tool in our toolbox.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, so the donation that we, so you keep mentioning goes to these, Are you talking about crisis pregnancy centers?

>> Frank Gaffney: Yes, sir. We've got about 280 of them in the highest abortion cities of America where all the abortions are happening.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, how does the money, what, do you send the money to them.

>> Frank Gaffney: Or how does that work on a monthly basis? They report to us the number of ultrasounds that they do and we offset the cost of those ultrasounds with the funds from listeners across America like yours.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, and you're telling me that over the years, 10 years we've been affiliated with you, our listeners here at AFR have provided tens of thousands of ultrasounds and I'm sure tens of thousands of babies have been saved.

>> Frank Gaffney: Oh, without a doubt. You guys are one of our founding networks. We wouldn't be here if it wasn't for you guys. I do not exaggerate that at all, Tim. We've seen over 408,000 babies saved in the last 20 years. So, you know, you guys have had. AFR has had a tremendous impact. Tens of thousands of ultrasounds have been given. Those women have seen, met their baby best picture first baby picture of the best kind. And it melts their heart and they choose life. And we've been doing this together for years. We're so thankful, Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, we're, you know, we're glad to help. Glad to do as much as we can to save unborn babies lives because that matters to God and to minister to those young ladies who are pregnant with an unwanted, with an unwanted pregnancy.

Two ultrasounds potentially saving two unborn babies who are would otherwise be aborted

so I'm going to ask folks if they can to. If you can give two, if, you can give two ultrasounds, folks pay for two of them. That's $56 if I got that math right.

>> Frank Gaffney: Yep.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so almost, almost everybody listening to me right now can do two. If you can't do, do one, but do two. Or some of you can do more. But two ultrasounds potentially saving two unborn babies who are. Would otherwise be aborted is $56, right?

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: So I'm going to give you the phone number. Where. What is this phone, where does this phone number call? Dan?

>> Frank Gaffney: That goes to your, operation actually, Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, Dan, Couldn't you do better without embarrassing me there? Say, I'm not, I'm not quite sure, Tim. anyway.

>> Frank Gaffney: Oh, you gu. Have provided everything call center.

>> Tim Wildmon: I thought, I thought I knew the answer to that. But I've not called it this particular number. That's why I wanted to.

>> Frank Gaffney: Well, you're sitting in the office.

>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you. Just pour salt on the wound, Dan. That's okay. I'm just kidding. All right, here's the phone number, folks. And this dials a number we are providing here at AFA and afr. Right Chris?

>> Chris Woodward: Yes, sir.

>> Tim Wildmon: Chris, why don't you dial that number right now and see if it's correct. Right. 8 7, 7. Use that cell phone right there.

>> Chris Woodward: Will do.

>> Tim Wildmon: 8 7, 7. Okay. 616-2396. See who answers it. See if Dan answers it or who answers it. There, right there.

>> Chris Woodward: Wait for it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wait for it. And we're waiting. It says talk amongst ourselves. Did you get.

>> Chris Woodward: Actually it's an automated message from Ed Vitagliano.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Chris Woodward: Thanking us for calling preborn.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, there you go. So you'll get brother Ed. Brother Ed will answer the phone and then direct you to somebody take your information. So credit card, is, you can use credit card and you can do it that way if you want to. So I'm about to give you the phone number where you'll hear Ed's voice. And he will. Then you'll talk to somebody here to take your information. And $28 buys one. $56 buys two ultrasounds. Here's a phone number. 877-616-2396. Again, toll free. 877. I don't think toll free matters anymore in this world, does it? That's like 1980s. 8776-1623-9687-7616, 2396. Or if you're somebody who just wants to do it quickly online, go to afr.netmhm. go to af. Fred, pull up our afr.net website, afr.netafr.net is easy way to give online.

Dan Steiner founded Preborn to fight against online abortion

Dan, anything else you wanted to say before we let you go, brother?

>> Frank Gaffney: Well, on this 20th year we're going to try to stand up a national network, Tim, to fight against online abortion, which is now 68% of abortions are done by the pill and woman's home. And just are so thankful for the network and your loyal listeners who have been so helpful in this going to save more than ever going after 90,000 babies this coming year, Tim. So seek your prayers for that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Go to afr.net, what's there, Fred?

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, right across the front of that page, afr.net, you will see preborn. Press the button. Donate now. You can make your donation there. You know, there's one more factor in preborn. And Dan, I'd like you to address this, over the last 20 years, 400,000 babies. Lives have been saved and. And more than 100,000 women have surrendered their lives to Jesus Christ. What an important aspect of this.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amen. Praise God.

>> Fred Jackson: Amen.

>> Frank Gaffney: It's so important.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, thank you, Dan. Take care and stay warm, my friend.

>> Frank Gaffney: Bless you guys.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, talk to you later. That's Dan Steiner from the great state of Indiana, who started PreBorn.

>> Fred Jackson: What a great ministry.

>> Chris Woodward: I haven't, I have an idea, out there for our listeners. There is at least one Sunday school class here in the two area where we're located that makes and sells baked goods and coffee before church where this Sunday school is held. and they use that money to donate to preborn. So if you're looking for something to do at your church and maybe with a Sunday school class or something like that, and to that family's credit, the family that came up with that, it's not me. but, shout out to them for coming up with that because I can tell you they're funding a lot of ultrasounds based on the baked goods and the coffee that they make and sell.

Tim: Where does the Bible say anything about an ultrasound or an unborn baby

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, Ray, I asked you this the other day, I think, but I wanted to go over it again because people may wonder when Tim says the Bible says something about this. They're going, where, where does the Bible say anything about an ultrasound or an unborn baby or anything like that? can you. Well, can you talk about that?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, absolutely. If I had to pick just one passage, I would say open your Bible to Psalm 139, where David talks about how God created him in his mother's womb for you. This is David. Psalm 139, verse 13. For you, Lord, formed my inmost being. You knit me together. That's a literal translation from the Hebrew. You knit me together in my mother's womb. You took me, my hands, my feet, my little beating heart, my eyes, my ears, the nervous system, the developing skeletal system inside the mother's womb, the baby in the beginning, just an embryo, and then the body begins to develop.

>> Tim Wildmon: We know.

>> Tim Wildmon: We know. It is God who stands behind all of it, who puts the body of the little baby together. It's God. I praise you, but for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. And go further. Psalm 139, verse 15. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in secret. What he means is, even though. Even though, you know, in the earliest days of pregnancy, the mother doesn't often even know she's pregnant. She finds that out a Little bit later, but from the earliest moments, Tim, God is at work inside the mother's womb, kneading together that little boy or that little girl. Okay, one more verse. Psalm 139, 16. Your eyes saw my unformed body. All my days were written in your book and ordained for me before one of them came to be.

Who makes babies? Who gives life to the unborn baby? God does

Who makes babies? Who makes babies? God does. Now we as humans are. We have the honor of joining in the process. But who makes the baby? Who gives life to the unborn baby? It's Almighty God. What could be more evil? What could be more truly destructive than, than to go inside the mother's womb and by force. By force to destroy a developing life made in the image of God. our God is pro life. Therefore, if he is our God and our God is pro life, we are pro life too, from the very moment of conception.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amen, brother.

>> Fred Jackson: Amen.

Turning Point USA launches Make Heaven Crowded tour amid spiritual warfare

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, you're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. That was Ray Pritchard, giving us the biblical reasoning behind, the pro life cause. Basically why Christians support, pro life and are against abortion. Alright, Chris, what's the next story?

>> Chris Woodward: Well, Erica Kirk and Turning Point USA have launched what they're calling a Make Heaven Crowded tour. And organizers say it's necessary because of all the spiritual warfare going on in our country and world, quite frankly. I'm going to do this in two clips. let's begin with this one. It's Erica Kirk talking about the Make Heaven crowded tour. Clip 14.

>> Tim Wildmon: And so for us, when we got.

>> Frank Gaffney: Married, we wanted to be very intentional about how the Lord would use our marriage. And so we wrote down goals for our marriage. And one of our goals was to always spread the gospel. And attached to that at the top, it was spread the gospel, make heaven crowded. And that was our thing. I wanted to take that piece of slice of heaven from that memorial for my husband and bring it to everyone around this country.

>> Chris Woodward: Now, one person already weighing in on this is our brother, Dr. Frank Turek, frequent guest of this program and has programs on afr. Frank was brought on to Fox and Friends to comment on this clip 15.

>> Frank Gaffney: Isn't it amazing that she sees her husband brutally murdered and she doesn't start a riot, she doesn't start a protest, she doesn't somehow try and tear down other people or tear down the government. What she does is she starts a series of worship services because she knows eternity is more important than anything that goes on here right now. And she wants people to know that the way you get to heaven is to trust in what Christ has done because he lived the perfect life in our place. I mean, she is amazing when you think about this. Just four months ago, and she's starting worship services. Meanwhile, the left is disrupting them.

>> Chris Woodward: What a great line at the end there.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that was Frank Turek, our good friend there, commenting on that.

>> Fred Jackson: Erica Kirk.

>> Tim Wildmon: is it. Is it. So it's been four months. That's a short four months.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, it was in September. September 10th.

>> Tim Wildmon: Since he. Since he was. Okay, September 10th. Okay.

Defense lawyers using technicalities to delay trial of alleged Charlie Kirk killer

What's going on with the trial of the alleged killer?

>> Fred Jackson: Well, lawyers for, the alleged killer, they were in court last week trying to get the prosecution dismissed because one of the prosecution lawyers has a relative that happened to be at the rally where Charlie Kirk was assassinated. And most legal experts say, well, it's. That argument is not going anywhere at all. Of course, they've been arguing they don't want cameras in the court, all kinds of things to delay this. And, Erica, Kirk the other day said, listen, there are all kinds of cameras on when my husband was assassinated. Why can't we have cameras there? And let's get on with this trial now, she has stated publicly she has forgiven the young man, who is charged in that murder, but she wants justice done. And right now, a lot of people agree with her that justice is being delayed just because of these tactics being used by these defense lawyers.

>> Tim Wildmon: Did the alleged, killer say. Has he said anything, publicly? In other words, has he said, I, did it or I didn't do it? Or has he not said there's been.

>> Fred Jackson: A not guilty plea? and some. And people may find that hard to believe because he wrote notes, the suspect wrote notes basically admitting to this.

>> Tim Wildmon: Also video of him getting off the top of that building.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes, yes. But they're going to try to use technicalities, which is what defense lawyers do.

>> Tim Wildmon: So you plead not guilty. Doesn't mean you didn't do it. You're trying to get a lesser, Lesser sentence. That is correct, I guess, yeah. all right, you're listening to today's issue. Next story. Chris?

Tomorrow is the anniversary of the U.S. supreme Court ruling in Roe v. Wade

>> Chris Woodward: Well, I meant to mention this a moment ago. It was. It was great that we had Dan on to talk about preborn, because, today is the anniversary of the U.S. supreme Court ruling in Roe. Roe v. Wade, which, of course, was overturned, by the U.S. supreme Court back in 2022. so, obviously a landmark decision that impacted generations of Americans still impacting families today. And I bring all that up because tomorrow is the National March for Life, in Washington D.C. which is the annual. Yes. it's always held around, the anniversary of the ruling. And even though weather is going to be a factor in parts of the country, thousands of people are still expected to show up for the National March for Life event. Lord willing, if the Lord tarries and we're all here tomorrow, we are going to have some coverage for afn, radio.

>> Tim Wildmon: And we don't know.

>> Chris Woodward: I always voice it that way. That's the cwv, just because we don't know when the Lord's going to return and I don't know what the weather's going to be like.

>> Tim Wildmon: Do you say that every day?

>> Chris Woodward: Pretty often. If the Lord Terri's Lord Terri, I should probably like trademark it and put.

>> Tim Wildmon: It on a T shirt. I should use the word Terri, don't you?

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, I do. I stow it away for. I stow it away for certain occasions.

>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway.

The annual March for Life in Washington D.C. is scheduled for tomorrow

Well, we, you know that annual, March for life in Washington D.C. is a big event.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Usually tens of thousands of, pro lifers from around America converge for that. And did you say that Vice President Vance will be there?

>> Chris Woodward: Yes, Vice President, Vance has been confirmed. Speaker Mike Johnson is going to be there. He's appeared at other March for Life events as well. A lot of lawmakers, celebrities are going to be there, pro life, sports activists. A lot of people are going to be there giving speeches, ahead of the march. And there's actually going to be a pre rally concert from the Christian group Sanctus Real, which many of our listeners are probably familiar with.

>> Tim Wildmon: What the weather is in D.C. tomorrow.

>> Chris Woodward: I'm going to look it up.

>> Tim Wildmon: Probably going to be 20 this year. Although it's always cold at that March for Life. White Ray.

>> Tim Wildmon: You see these videos and everybody is. There's a lot of joy, Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And a lot of, A lot of cheer, and enthusiasm. But they are bundled up because, I mean like January in D.C. it's cold.

>> Fred Jackson: It'S going to be cold. But this system that we've been talking about is not really due to arrive in the Washington area until Saturday or Sunday.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: So, they probably can get this in tomorrow.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Also I commend, Vice President Vance for personally showing up. He was there last year carrying a sign.

>> Chris Woodward: His wife's pregnant. they just made that announcement. Their fourth child.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's right. So, good for him. Thanks for standing up for life and being public about it.

>> Fred Jackson: And you know, isn't it amazing that across the Potomac, in Virginia they have a new Democrat governor there.

>> Fred Jackson: Just sworn in the other day. I think it was.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: One of the first things they did. They're going to have a referendum this fall which would include abortion up to the very point of birth because of.

>> Chris Woodward: A so called constitutional right through abortion.

>> Tim Wildmon: What are the difference? Well, that's the Democrats in Virginia. M yes. That's just shameful.

>> Chris Woodward: Used to be safe, legal and rare and now it's do it whenever you want.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. I tell you what, you don't want to stand before God one day and say my cause was abortion until birth. Yeah, that's you. So scary thought. All right, we'll be back after this short, timeout for news. we'll, we'll return. We'll see you in a few minutes. M the views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.

>> Tim Wildmon: M.

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