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Tim Wildman: It's easy to criticize another man's hobby
Ed Vitagliano Welcome to today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
Tim Wildmon Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR. I'm Tim Wildmon and today is Monday, January 12, 2026. And, as always, we thank you for listening to American Family Radio. Well, in studio with me is Ed Battagliano. Good morning.
Ed Vitagliano Good morning, Tim.
Tim Wildmon Brother Ed and brother Fred Jackson. Good morning.
Fred Jackson How you doing, Ed?
Tim Wildmon Ed and Tim.
Fred Jackson And Tim. You guys, I was gonna ask you. I was out for drive yesterday and I saw people golfing in this now very cold weather.
Tim Wildmon Really?
Fred Jackson And I wondered if it was you.
Tim Wildmon No, it wasn't me yesterday. I do have my limitations for the addiction. I can control myself when it gets below 50. Okay. And the wind's blowing and it's in the. For, for golfers, they would understand what I'm saying. Also, there's something called, pat. Cart, path only. That mean anything to you guys?
Ed Vitagliano Card path only.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. Okay, so golf courses have cart paths. Yeah, for the golf carts. And they're concrete. Normally, unless you got a really redneck course, which is just, just roots and grass and a five dollar green fee, you get what you paid for. But most golf courses have concrete paths. But if the ground is so wet that they won't let you drive out on the, on the course. I call it cart path only.
Ed Vitagliano Oh, so you have to leave your cart.
Tim Wildmon Yes.
Ed Vitagliano And wall your stuff.
Tim Wildmon You have to do a lot of exercise, which is.
Ed Vitagliano What's the point of that?
Tim Wildmon Well, that's what I'm saying. So. Yeah. What me, Fred.
Fred Jackson Okay.
Tim Wildmon But anyway, yeah. So, we hope everybody had a nice weekend. If you, worship at the altar of football, you were able to succeed in, much idolatry. Huh?
Ed Vitagliano You're agreeing with the little old ladies who don't like football anyway.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. You know what's funny to me? As people criticize, I had a lady write me one time, say, you need to quit talking about golf. You need to Give up golf. That's a rich man sport.
Ed Vitagliano Oh, is it?
Tim Wildmon I've never heard. That's what I asked her.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon Is it really? Anyway, who cares, right? I was going like, why do you care whether I golf or not?
Ed Vitagliano Well. And especially. Okay, so, we start judging.
Tim Wildmon That's what I'm saying. Let's judge each other.
Ed Vitagliano People who drink $8 lattes or get their coffee from Starbucks and, you know, cost seven, eight dollars a pop. Okay. Are going to tell you you can't golf because that's a rich man sport. okay. Well, then drinking coffee is a rich woman's sport.
Tim Wildmon I know.
Ed Vitagliano I mean, stay, in your lane. Everyone else will stay in theirs. I was there.
Tim Wildmon well, it's like you said, you know, everybody's got something they enjoy.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon That they usually have a hobby or something like that. And so it's easy to criticize another man's hobby.
Fred Jackson Right.
Ed Vitagliano Right.
Tim Wildmon but you don't want anybody criticizing yours. Right?
Ed Vitagliano Correct.
Tim Wildmon so.
Ed Vitagliano And I'm not even. Listen, I'm not even. I don't even golf. So this wasn't. I wasn't being defensive, but I could.
Tim Wildmon Judge you about watching Bruins hockey game. Sure. If I wanted to.
Ed Vitagliano Absolutely.
Fred: I am looking forward to warm weather that will be here soon
Tim Wildmon And you would be guilty.
Ed Vitagliano I would probably fall on the. In the guilty column if. If, if watching Bruins hockey was wrong.
Fred Jackson Right.
Ed Vitagliano Which obviously it's not.
Fred Jackson It's just painful.
Tim Wildmon Why don't you do it to yourself?
Ed Vitagliano It's been a little bit painful this year anyway.
Tim Wildmon All right. No, Fred, that wasn't me golfing yesterday, my friend. But I am looking forward to warm weather that, Which will be here in a few. Couple months.
Ed Vitagliano Good luck and.
Ed Vitagliano good luck for a couple of months.
Tim Wildmon We have three weeks of, quote, winter here where we live usually, and then it'll be gone.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Fred Kaplan says there's a lot happening in the news this morning
Tim Wildmon All right. a lot to talk about today. A lot happening in the news. Wow. I mean, since last we talked.
Fred Jackson Yeah.
Tim Wildmon my word. a lot of things going on. All right, Fred, what's leading the news this morning?
Fred Jackson Well, one begins to wonder if somewhere in the White House there is a corkboard, which says, countries to conquer because we've now moved on from Venezuela. And, up next is Iran before or after Greenland?
Ed Vitagliano Well, that's the Greenland sandwich.
Fred Jackson Maybe it's number three on the cork board.
President Trump says Iran wants to negotiate. Now, what that means
All right, so in Iran, if folks, had some time to watch reports on the weekend, the protests there against the Islamic regime are only increasing, despite the fact reports are saying that more than 540 of those protesters, have been killed. we've also had pro or, I guess anti Islamic regime protest by Iranians living in this country, Iranians living in Paris. So it is building the pressure against the Islamic regime there. the protests, they say started because of the economy is wrecked, in Iran. It's terrible. but the latest this morning is that President Trump says Iran wants to negotiate. Now, what that means, we're not sure. but here's President Trump talking about this. I believe he was asked about this on Air Force One on his way back to D.C. last night. Cut number one.
Ed Vitagliano These are violent. If you call them leaders, I don't know if they're leaders or just they rule through violence. But we're looking at it very seriously. The military is looking at it, and, we're looking at some very strong options. We'll make a determination. Iran wants to negotiate. Yes.
Fred Jackson We may meet with them.
Ed Vitagliano I mean, a meeting is being set up, but we may have to act because of what's happening before the meeting. But a meeting is being set up. Iran call. They want to negotiate.
Fred Jackson Well, one of the persons who's very interested in this is, known as the Crown Prince, Razi Malavi. He is the son of the former shah, remember back 1979, when the Islamic regime took over, from the Shah there?
Tim Wildmon That's when Ted Koppel got his start.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon Remember the Nightline?
Ed Vitagliano Oh, yeah.
Tim Wildmon The Iranian. Iranian Hostage crisis, day 38. Yeah.
Fred Jackson Young, Pahlavi, was just 17 when that occurred. And what did he do after that? He came to the United States, trained as a fighter pilot here in the U.S. but now, of course, what a lot of people believe and want, apparently, is for him to be returned. And he is commenting on what's going on in Iran right now. And that will be, cut number three.
Speaker D Mr. President, you have already established your legacy as a man committed to peace and fighting evil forces. There is a reason why people in Iran are renaming streets after your name. They know that you are totally opposite to Barack Obama or Joe Biden. They know that you're not going to throw them under the bus as they have had before. This is why they believe that this time they are empowered by the hope that we have their back. Let's hope that we can permanently seal this legacy by liberating Iran so that we and you can make Iran great again. We hope only that the Iranian people this time will be victorious. And, ah, they will be, because I know that Iranians are prepared to die for this Cause and so am I. We're doing everything we can. And I think it's not just for us as Iranians and is for the whole world.
Ed Vitagliano He said that to the president? Why did he say that? Well, this person.
Fred Jackson This was picked up on the weekend. I'm not sure. I'd. Not sure he's. He met with the President directly. I have not seen that report. I think this is.
Tim Wildmon He's making a comment, just a history review here. For those who don't remember are too young to know the.
Tim Ferriss: Iran is a Persian country, not an Arab
What happened with Iran. We mentioned the Iranian Revolution in 79. Yeah, 79. So Iran is a Persian country. It's not an Arab country. It's a Persian country. Different kind of different ethnicity, different language. And they, It's a big country. I don't know how many. 50 million, something like that. Pretty big country. Maybe more than that. I'm just guessing. but they were under a, Hey, what would you call it? A dictatorship, A friendly dictatorship to the us The Shah of Iran. The Shah, he was friendly to the West?
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon And I don't know if you call him a dictatorship or not, but basically he was in. He was ruling over, I think.
Ed Vitagliano It was essentially a dynastic kind of monarchy.
Tim Wildmon Okay.
Ed Vitagliano And by the way I looked it up, it's 90. 90 million. 90 million in, Iran. It's a big country.
Tim Wildmon So they had a revolution over there, an Islamic religious revolution in 79. And the, that's when they overthrew the Shah, who was again friendly to the west. And they basically had an open society there, a lot of educated, Iranians and well traveled anyway. But the religious mullahs, that is clerics, whatever you want to call them, the, Shia, Shia, part of Islam, very strict. They took over the country by force. And the Ayatollah Khomeini was a figurehead. He was the main. I said more than figurehead. He was the main one. He was like over the mullahs. And so, he became the dictator basically, and his friends, imposing Sharia law. And so it was a radical change for the people of Iran at the time, and it's been that way ever since. And, now this is the second uprising in the last 15 years. The first one was in 2009 and it was ultimately subdued by the mullahs. Mullahs again are the religious leaders led by the ayatollah. And so now they got the same thing happening again. That's what this gentleman is talking about. Who is the son of the Shah, who's no longer alive. And I, guess he was. People, are thinking maybe he'll come back to Iran and take over in leadership should the Ayatollah, Khomeini and the, mullahs be overthrown. But that's a long way from happening. Seems to me right now, even though reports are that we're getting a lot of uprisings throughout, and a lot of this seems to be economically economic, frustration.
Fred Jackson Inflation rate is just, skyrocketed.
Tim Wildmon Probably a lot of it because the economic sanctions that have been imposed by the world against, at least the Western world against Iran, they have.
Ed Vitagliano Problems with water supply. They have a lot of problems over. And, Now, Fred, some of the talk information over the weekend was that, forces loyal to Khomeini and to the mullahs, this Islamic regime, were just killing protesters. That the number m might be as high as 500 or more. It's difficult to get accurate figures because the Iranian regime cut the Internet.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Ed Vitagliano In part to keep people from using social media to have their protests gain steam.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Ed Vitagliano But also it does limit the information going out of the country.
Fred Jackson Well, not only that, but Fox's, military expert, Jack, Keane, he was saying even for those arrested, it's almost a death sentence.
Ed Vitagliano Right.
Fred Jackson because they usually end up killing them in prison, hanging them in prison. Yeah. they, they don't have a justice system like we're familiar with here. So. Yeah, it's a dire situation, but, you know, Iran doesn't have any. Yes. Tim, you were saying they are a Persian nation, but Iran doesn't have many friends right now in the Arab world, given the Gaza peace plan that President Trump has put in place. Because you got some of the major players involved with that, I guess their closest friend right now may be Russia. Russia, that is the only ally that they have. So it's going to be interesting. As we reported a few minutes ago, President Trump is talking about, they're interested. That's the Islamic regime in negotiations.
Tim Wildmon Any idea what he might mean by that?
Fred Jackson Well, that's what I was going to say. I don't see it coming together. Where do those minds come together on this? how do you stop, the rioting that's going on there? I think you have a very strong uprising by the people of Iran that is not going to be quelled by keeping the Islamic regime in place.
Ed Vitagliano Well, I certainly hope the Trump administration is not or would not be thinking in that direction. the Only thing I can think of is you just tell, the, the leaders, the, you know, I don't know how, how high up you go in terms of the mullahs, but you just tell them, we will guarantee your safety to go to a country of your choice, but you got to step down and you got to allow free and fair elections. Or have the son of the Shah, who is deposed in 79, have him come back and take over the country.
Whatever negotiation that President Trump is talking about with Iran wouldn't possibly involve military action
there is one of the things, I don't know if you're wanted to talk about this, but there's been a lot of talk of the last 10 years or so of Christian conversions.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Ed Vitagliano In, in that country. Now, I'm sure it's still a small percentage of the total number of people in Iran I just mentioned. I looked it up 90 million. But it's apparently the country with the fastest conversion rate in the world.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Ed Vitagliano People converting to Christianity. And we won't know until this regime does fall and freedom is kind of let loose. We won't know how many of the Muslims in that country are Muslims in name only because they're living under the heel of these mullahs. We won't know until.
Fred Jackson To your point, one of our editors, Billy Davis, right now is in contact with an Iranian woman, who is a Christian. she has left the country many years ago. but she says the Iranian people would welcome the, Shah's grandson back in. Far better for the Iranian people, she says. So we're going to have a story on this in the next week or so. direct testimony from this Iranian woman who went to prison when they discovered that she was a Christian. She was handing out Bibles with a friend there in Iran, went to prison, but they did let them go. And now she's willing to tell her story. So we're going to have that story on afn, hopefully by, by the end of the week.
Tim Wildmon Whatever negotiation that President Trump is talking about with Iran, it wouldn't possibly involve military action, would it?
Fred Jackson I mean, it would involve the threat, I believe, of military action.
Ed Vitagliano I think that's clearly the threat that's on the table because he said that Iran was getting close to crossing a line with the pro protesters.
Fred Jackson Red line.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, red line. So, I don't know.
Tim Wildmon that seems contrary to, not getting us involved in foreign wars, which is one of the staples of the MAGA movement. Right?
Ed Vitagliano Yeah. And that has been, that has been an issue in the MAGA movement is that split, that foreign policy split which foreign policy is hard to Navigate sometimes.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. Because things change in the world, too.
Ed Vitagliano They do. And what you thought was going to be America's strategic interests. Let's stay away from foreign intervention. Sometimes, like in the case of probably a Venezuela, you go, well, we had to do something because our enemies were getting a foothold in our own hemisphere.
Fred Jackson Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano and so who knows, where this is going to wind up? But I am glad to see that Iran has been isolated to a large degree, with the exception of China and Russia. Probably North Korea and China and Russia. Certainly big dogs on the world stage. But I don't see anybody in Europe defending, the mullah's rights to keep the Iranian people in servitude.
President Trump warns Cuba that zero oil or money will flow from Venezuela
Tim Wildmon next story, Fred.
Fred Jackson Well, next story is related to Venezuela, by the way. You mentioned. Did not realize until the weekend, China gets 85% of its oil from Venezuela.
Tim Wildmon Who does?
Fred Jackson China.
Ed Vitagliano I didn't know it was that much.
Fred Jackson But that's what was reported on the weekend. I did not realize that. But, in connection with Venezuela, Cuba depended greatly. Has depended greatly on Venezuela. And on the weekend, President Trump warning Cuba. And this is a Newsweek story, Tim, that you sent out earlier. Warn Cuba that zero oil or money will flow from Venezuela, urging Havana to make a deal before it's too late. So it's made a deal with Trump. Time.
Tim Wildmon President Trump's turning into Monty hall here. Let's make a deal.
Ed Vitagliano Listen, that would be, that would be a great thing. I don't know how the thing's going to play out in Venezuela. A lot of moving pieces in terms of where that country goes. but if President Trump is able to cause the communist, regime in Cuba to finally fold, that would. Listen, you talk about making Cuba great again. That country has been oppressed since 1959 when Fidel Castro took over. And you talk about waiting a long time to rejoin the world. That country was pretty well to do back before the Communists take over. they certainly have been, experiencing the, quote, unquote, blessing of communist ideology for the last. Whatever that is. It's 45, something like that. 46 years. that'd be a wonderful thing if Trump could pull that off.
Fred Jackson Had the chance to visit Cuba with Trans World Radio back several years ago. It is an absolutely beautiful country. It's beautiful. The mountainous. I didn't realize that's where all the.
Ed Vitagliano Communists were hanging out.
Fred Jackson It's incredible. The tourism potential, the beautiful beaches, all of that sort of thing. So it's this great plum that just somebody needs to grab. And I'm sure the Cuban people would love. But, but again, the question is, and Timothy. Okay. What negotiations do you have with the Castros to, make them give up?
Tim Wildmon I'll tell you what, now we've got some nice old model cars they may be interested in. I'm talking about some 1950s classics that, they might be interested in down there. You know what? Cuba is no threat to the United States. I don't see militarily. I mean, they're, they live under communism, but until they, overthrow it themselves.
Ed Vitagliano Well, I think that's what Trump's hoping to do by, by saying no oil. No oil for you, so you can't drive your cars. Well, I think he wants to put economic pressure, on change the government.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, yeah, that's good. Okay. I can, I can go for that.
Ed Vitagliano You, you remember the old Seinfeld thing? No soup for you. No soup for you. No oil for your Cuba.
Tim Wildmon So, so is President Trump's, so he's, is he blockading?
Ed Vitagliano no, I think he's, this is why I said that I don't know how things are going to wind up going in Venezuela. He wants Venezuela to stop giving oil and money to Cuba. Cuba was, I guess in exchange for that using, you know, sending, some of their military members over for security details. but I think he wants Venezuela to shut off the spigot. I'm not sure Venezuela is going to do that.
President Trump wants stronger military presence on Greenland to help deter Russia
Tim Wildmon All right, well, President Trump's not busy. Nothing, nothing much else happening in the world, is there?
Fred Jackson Well, apparently all of what we've talked about is not enough for President, Trump this week. He has his Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, who's not busy enough already. He's going to talk to the Danes about Greenland because President Trump at the very least wants a greater presence in Greenland.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, now that country does have a lot of strategic significance. It does in terms of potential missile attacks. If there was ever a nuclear exchange with Russia, I think we talked about this on the program, those missiles would go right over Greenland. and also to have a stronger military presence on Greenland to help deter Russia, or to have a forward operating base and pre positioned supplies, troops, whatever, in case there's a clash in Europe. But there's also a big, big, a lot of minerals, very important, rare earth minerals in Greenland. So the President Trump has. Am I exaggerating or did he basically say, we're taking Greenland where you can, you can sell it to us. But I'm not ruling out the military.
Tim Wildmon Yes, the easy way. Or the hard way. Greenlanders just figured out that what he told them.
Ed Vitagliano I think that's basically what he said.
Tim Wildmon well, all right. It's a little complicated because Denmark, a.
Ed Vitagliano Small European country, member of NATO.
Tim Wildmon Member of NATO, which the United States is the big player there in providing funding and military to defend Western Europe from any kind of Russia or aggression because the prior Soviet Union, communistic, you know, expansionism, I guess you could say. So now, now we're, now we're talking about taking. I think there should. So Marco Rubio is going over there, our secretary of State, to talk to the Denmark leaders about, Greenland.
Ed Vitagliano We'd like to move into your neighborhood.
Tim Wildmon About that fishing village. We want to take over. We'll be back.
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Don't miss the Hannah's Heart Women's Conference coming up January 30-31
Tim Wildmon Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. That's the name of this here show, today's Issues. And I'm Tim Wildmon with Ed Intagliano and Fred Jackson talking about stories that are in the news. And, before we get back to the current events, Ed, you have an announcement to make?
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, I just want to let our listeners know. Do not miss.
Tim Wildmon Do not miss.
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Tim Wildmon When?
Ed Vitagliano That's coming up? January 30th and 31st, the end of this month.
Tim Wildmon What's going to be? What's the emphasis?
Ed Vitagliano the emphasis is going to be through it all and is going.
Tim Wildmon That doesn't tell me anything, though.
Ed Vitagliano Well, I already read you were looking at football scores.
Tim Wildmon I was. I was watching you leading you through what all.
Ed Vitagliano Okay, so.
Tim Wildmon No, no, I know the answer to this. I'm thinking of a listener out there going, it's just another women's conference. We have them in my neighborhood. I don't have to drive to Tupelo to get a women's conference. So I'm asking you what's special about this?
Ed Vitagliano So, you know, I. I'm just reading.
Tim Wildmon Are you just reading the script?
Ed Vitagliano I'm just reading.
Tim Wildmon They just pay you to read because you're a pretty face. Is that what it is?
Ed Vitagliano Another, listen, it says, this woman's conference will be for women and families living life. That may not look like you planned.
Tim Wildmon Okay, I'll tell you what it's about.
Ed Vitagliano Okay.
Tim Wildmon Okay. It's. It's. It is about that, generally speaking. But the Hannah's Heart program deals with women who, who can't have babies naturally a lot, and for various reasons. And so it's very. That's very painful reality for a lot of women. And so, they. This is a sisterhood of folks who are going through and have been through struggles in that realm, and there are other things, too. But that's basically what they started out as. Hannah's Heart, that's a radio program that we do here on American, because life.
Ed Vitagliano Sometimes throws you curveballs. Kind of like when you just are, told just to read a script, and then your boss asks you for additional information, information that you don't have, and you're scrambling to. To.
Tim Wildmon I tried to give you a chance.
Ed Vitagliano To do it yourself, to make sense.
Tim Wildmon Of the world like I'm talking to one of my sons. I gave you an opportunity to do it yourself. Now I'm gonna have to do it for you. No, you, did read the script that was given to you.
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Tim Wildmon To make the announcement about the conference. Tell us how to. How to, For more information, seriously, about this conference for ladies, and women. How do they do that?
Ed Vitagliano And for more information, you can either contact him directly or you can go to afa.afa.net events this is the Hannah's Heart Women's Conference. It's titled Through it all, coming up January 30th and 31st, afa.netforward/events and you'll be able to see more information right there.
Tim Wildmon I think another one of the, what do you call them when you go to a conference and you.
Ed Vitagliano Have side, like breakout.
Tim Wildmon Breakouts. One of the breakout sessions is going to be, how to help take over Greenland. I think that's going to be one of the breakout sessions.
Ed Vitagliano Doesn't appear that we're going to need all that much help doing it.
President Trump has dispatched Secretary of State Marco Rubio to Greenland
Tim Wildmon All right, so before the break, Fred, you said that President Trump has dispatched. I say dispatched. Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
Fred Jackson Yes. Heading to Denmark.
Tim Wildmon Heading to Denmark to talk to the Danes, all seven of them about, about the fishing village in Greenland that we, we might be sending in the, 82nd Airborne. Is that right? I did overstated that.
Fred Jackson I think you overstated it, however. No, we need to. I need to back up a little bit. Back up a little bit there. The White House has used the term were not opposed to sending the military. Now. They've kind of drawn back from that because that just got everybody in a fit. You know, we're going to send the US Military to take over Greenland.
Tim Wildmon We already have a military base. Right.
Fred Jackson We have a little one.
Tim Wildmon So we can use our own base.
Fred Jackson We have a station there that's been there for many decades.
Tim Wildmon Okay.
Fred Jackson but there are two concerns. Number one is the. That's being listed is that Greenland is strategic in our efforts to keep the Russians and the Chinese in check. There's great concern that they can, from that area of the world, they could launch attacks against our.
Tim Wildmon All joking aside. Yes, that is a, what you just mentioned is a legitimate, fact.
Fred Jackson Absolutely.
Tim Wildmon Okay, so, yeah, so it's a, it's the largest island in the world. Yes. Okay.
Fred Jackson Huge.
Tim Wildmon So. And it's very strategic. We mentioned that before. Military, militarily and otherwise. So. And President Trump has said, basically, it's, It's a NATO, Greenland, Denmark is a member of NATO.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon And we, the United States, are the major supplier of military support for NATO, or have been. And money.
Fred Jackson Correct.
Tim Wildmon So it's not unreasonable to say to our fellow NATO member, hey, look, we need access to this land, to be able to defend you, to carry out the mission of NATO, should it, come to that. Is that right?
Fred Jackson I think at the very least, what Secretary of State Rupio is probably going to say is at the very least, we need to expand our existing military presence in Greenland. that is something the Danes might be open to.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. If not buy it outright. if you can do that. I mean, that. Well, that's been done down through history. Right. Louisiana Purchase comes to Alaska. Alaska.
Ed Vitagliano From the Russians.
Tim Wildmon We bought land before around the world.
Ed Vitagliano At this, Petufic, I think. I'm not sure how you pronounce it. Petufic. It used to be called Thule, air base, that the, that the U.S. Air Force, and now the Space Force uses. so we do have a base there. And it hosts the 12th Space Warning Squadron, which operates a ballistic missile early warning system. So that's used to detect the launch and, the progress, of ICBM's shoulder continental ballistic missiles that are launched against North America. So I'm not sure what else we want there. Perhaps some missile bases that would shoot down missiles.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. If Russia launched at us, we want cheaper salmon. You know, that could be a part of the deal.
Ed Vitagliano It could be. I'd be. I'd be willing to. That'd be great.
Tim Wildmon Better price on salmon.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. All right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Next story. Fred?
Fred Jackson Well, let's come back home.
Tim Biden: Minneapolis incident involving ICE agents sparks heated debate
Minneapolis, is still the focus of a lot of tension today that in the wake of the incident involving ICE agents, there last week where, and I think most people have seen video of this incident, a woman who has now been described as a ICE Watch warrior there in Minneapolis, she was interfering with the operations of our ICE agents there in that city. And, she had an encounter. And, when it was over, the driver of this SUV that you've probably now seen the picture of was dead. The initial reports coming mainly from the mainstream media, was the ICE agent who shot her did so in an unwarranted fashion. Well, what happened within 24 to 48 hours? what we didn't know initially is that ICE agent had a camera on. And they released the video of the encounter which proved that this woman, Renee, Nicole. Good. As she tried to speed away from that area, she actually hit this ICE agent. And many people now believe that, he was justified in shooting.
Tim Wildmon This lady tried to get, you know, I couldn't tell by the video. Did he fire before or after he was hit? Does anyone know?
Ed Vitagliano I think. I think he fired as the vehicle was coming. She. When she gunned it to leave, or, whatever she was intending, it looked like she was headed straight for this officer. He had his cell phone out in one and then drew his weapon and fired. And as he's pulling his weapon out, it looks like she started to turn, probably to get away from that. That, you know, what handgun.
Tim Wildmon This woman, what was her name?
Fred Jackson Renee Nicole Goode.
Tim Wildmon She was looking for trouble and she found it. Yes, she was looking for trouble all day. Is now confirmed that she and her, quote, wife, she was a lesbian. She was out. They were out, trying to impede the work of ice.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon And by blocking a road with their vehicle.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon And the ICE agent I saw the video came up to her, and she's being a smart aleck to him and taunting him, as is her. If that's her. Her wife. I'm hearing her mate, whatever you want to call her. If, I'm hearing. On the other. Is it. Was that the other voice on that video? Was that her significant other or something like that?
Ed Vitagliano Okay, that was the original.
Tim Wildmon And she's the one who's walking around, like within 10ft of the ICE agent or agents again, doing the same thing, taunting them and, impeding their work and their access to the road. So I'm sorry, this lady lost her life. That's, I'm sorry. But, she, put herself in a bad position.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon And, And the ICE officer was being charged, being about to be mowed down with a car. Anybody wouldn't. Anybody would fire a weapon. If you're. By the way, this same ICE officer had, like, a few months ago, been dragged by a car, almost tore his arm off up in the hospital. About somebody doing the same type thing.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon Here. So you know what, guys? This is the. The Democrats, not all Democrats, but some of these Democrat officials and, people on the left, they are antagonizing this situation. They're throwing gas on the. On the fire here. the mission of, the Immigration ice.
Ed Vitagliano what's the next Immigration Customs Enforcement.
Tim Wildmon Okay. They've been around for a long time, right through Democrat and Republican administrations. They are tasked with rounding up the bad guys and deporting them or catching them. And we're talking about hardened criminals, we're talking about drug dealers, people involved in human trafficking, gang activities, people.
Ed Vitagliano Involved in fraud, fraud up in that part of the state.
Tim Wildmon So that's the reason they exist. So they are federal agents. And now, because Biden let 15 million people in here, we got a lot of bad dudes. And that ICE is responsible for finding out where they are and going to pick them up, detain them, arrest Them. Well, the Democrats don't want that. They, they don't. They don't want ICY doing anything.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon because they're trying. A lot of them are encouraging people to go out and, and, and physically, impede, as this lady was doing here, who got shot and killed. The work of ice.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon I don't, I'm not sure exactly. I know people say, Tim, don't be naive. I'm not sure exactly how to process this, Ed. Why. Why are they doing this?
Ed Vitagliano Well, I think you got it exactly right, by the way. They're not only trying to get people to be antagonistic and hostile and impede ICE in its lawful duties. There are also these political leaders in places like Minneapolis and Minnesota saying, we're not going to turn out the local cops either. So can you imagine if ICE had cooperation with Minneapolis Police Department, and they. And Minneapolis. Minneapolis Police Department would arrest people, like.
Tim Wildmon Who are using their cars to block the road.
Ed Vitagliano To block the road. You arrest them. It has nothing to do with ice. Ma', am. You can't park.
This is driving the far left just absolutely bananas on immigration
Tim Wildmon Right, right.
Ed Vitagliano And, but so they're, they're inflaming the situation, these politicians, and then saying, we're not going to give you local police help. I saw, I saw another video of a couple of ICE agents being, challenged by an entire, neighborhood full of Somalis. They had to back out because nobody was coming to help them. And listen, first of all, it's Donald Trump doing this. This is driving the, the far left just absolutely bananas.
Tim Wildmon So the righteousness or lack of the case doesn't matter? Well, I say lack of, or, the lawfulness of it, I should say not necessarily righteousness, although they overlap. That doesn't matter. It's because Trump is initiating it. Therefore, we resist. Right?
Ed Vitagliano Yes, absolutely. And then the Democratic Party has been in love with immigration, whether it's legal or not. And they do not want to see their hard work air quotes under the Biden administration of filling this country up with illegal immigrants. They don't want to see that hard work reversed. And, you know, we just got through here. This month will be one year of Trump's first, his first year of his last term. Okay, there's three more years. And the left is, feels it incumbent upon themselves to try to stop everything Trump wants to do because they may not get another shot like they had under Biden to fill this country up.
Portland police chief cries over shooting of two Venezuelan gang members by ICE agents
Tim Wildmon Related to this. Did you guys see the video of the police chief in Portland crying?
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon Okay.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, that was pathetic.
Tim Wildmon Okay. The police chief in Portland, Oregon, had a press conference. I've forgotten his name. His name is Day. D A Y. I think his last name. There was a shooting in, a confrontation between two, Venezuelan gang members. Right.
Fred Jackson Yes. A man and a woman.
Tim Wildmon A man and a woman. Yep. What's the name of the gang?
Ed Vitagliano Trent Tren. Aragua.
Tim Wildmon Okay. Anyway, that's the name. Anyway, the ICE agents were, confronted with them and shot them.
Fred Jackson They were driving.
Tim Wildmon They were driving.
Fred Jackson They were in a vehicle.
Tim Wildmon So the, the, the police chief of Portland, Oregon. Why was he crying at this press.
Ed Vitagliano Bob Day.
Tim Wildmon Okay, Bob Day. Can either one of you guys say. Tell me when he was talking about this?
Fred Jackson They were wounded by, by the shots that were fired. And he felt bad about that.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, he, he was upset. it's trend. Aragua is the name of this Venezuelan gang. He was upset because he's very supportive of the Venezuelan community, the immigrant community. And he was. Sorry, Portland. In Portland.
Tim Wildmon And so he's, he's sorry that two of their. Two of the gang members were.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, he. I listened to some of it. He sound like he's talking about the, hostility.
Tim Wildmon It sounded like a snowflake. The police chief should not be up there weeping Right. Over two gang members being confronted by ICE agents. Right, right. I mean, you would think. But it sounded like to me he was going, well, I feel bad for the whole Venezuelan community here, our immigrant community here, because they're not all like this. but he, but sound like to me, he had to also confess that these two did have gang member ties to this. So it just seemed like, well, they're a, they are a. Portland and Oregon would be a sanctuary state.
Fred Jackson Yes. Just like.
Tim Wildmon So they want as many illegals to come there as possible. They don't call them illegals. They call them undocumented or what. I don't know what they call them.
Fred Jackson Now, but, you know, it's. It's a picture of the mindset. This police chief. And you've got the mayor of Minneapolis, Frye, you got the governor of Minnesota, waltz. Within an hour after the incident, the shooting of this woman. They in their press conference pretty well had the ICE agent convicted of murder. That's the way they were talking.
Tim Wildmon Well, the NewSong York mayor, the Democrat, Mandan, he called it murder.
Fred Jackson He called it murder. They immediately there in Minneapolis tried to equate this with George Floyd. Here you go. This is another George Floyd. An innocent lady just, you know, she has her First Amendment rights to protest. And look what the ICE agent Did to her. They tried. That was the narrative. They tried to get out there right away.
Ed Vitagliano And Bob, that wasn't true.
Tim Wildmon No, go ahead.
Ed Vitagliano I was gonna say. And Bob Day, the police chief in Portland, had to admit that the shooting was because these individuals are connected to Trend Aragua. And this is what he said. He wanted to, mention, quote, the historic injustice of victim blaming, end quote, by law enforcement. And then he said, including within his.
Tim Wildmon Own agency, the chief of police of Portland.
Ed Vitagliano Chief of police is. He says, quote, I want to speak for just a moment specifically to my Latino community. It saddens me that we even have to qualify these remarks because I understand, or at least have attempted to understand your voices, your concern, your fear and your anger. So about what? about the way they've been treated in the past.
Tim Wildmon People of Portland mistreating the Hispanics. Latinos.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah. And I'm sure he wants to blame the Trump administration for that, but he said even within his own department. and so does that.
Tim Wildmon I know you. I'm not, I'm not asking you to defend him.
Portland Mayor expresses concern over arrests of suspected gang members
I guess I'm asking you to. So what does that have to do. Seems like to me his job should be to get up there and announce the arrest of these people or what the stats of the matter was not. He's getting into the social justice movement.
Ed Vitagliano Yes. which might explain his, his, his, his tears is he's basically saying, okay, we have to admit these were gang members, violent gang members. However, let me say that does not change the fact that immigrants in Portland and in this country are getting a raw deal. I think that was the point he was trying to make.
Tim Wildmon Let me ask you this one other question. So it's becoming apparent to me that these, we just have a completely contrasting view of law and order here in this country. Because it seems to me the Democrats, they don't, they don't believe in. They believe that borders are immoral and that people should be allowed to come here from all over the world and pour in here and nothing be done to deter them or stop them. And even criminals, they don't believe I should go after trying to arrest him. That seems to be what they're the hill they're going to die on. So that's their worldview. Is that. How do you interpret it any other way?
Ed Vitagliano I don't know. I don't think that's unfair at all what you just said. I, think that is. If that is not spot on, it is right next door.
Tim Wildmon That's kind of scary that 50% of the country. If you want to say now, maybe not all Democrats subscribe to that. There would be some who don't, but these are people who vote, and they're voting for the. For the end of our immigration laws. How do you process.
Ed Vitagliano I would, I would. I would say to the, to the left. I would take you more seriously if you would at least say right. absolutely. We are in favor and support of the Trump administration getting rid of every illegal immigrant in this country who's a criminal, who was a criminal in the country they came from, or who became a criminal in this country. I'm not even talking about coming into the country illegally. I'm saying these people have committed crimes once they got here illegally, and that includes no fraud like we've seen in the Somali population. I would have a better, an easier time having a conversation with someone on the left who would say that. Let's start there bipartisan. Let's get rid of the criminals. Can we all agree on that? Now that we've done that and we've done that in a bipartisan manner, let's talk about what we do with people who've been here for 20, 25 years. Yes, they came here illegally. And then let's have a separate conversation about the ones who came into this country illegally under the Biden administration. But, no, all we get from the left is ICE should not be allowed to do its job. We, in parentheses. We don't care if they're criminals or not. That's sad, pathetic, and dangerous.
A majority of Americans believe in law and order when it comes to immigration
Tim Wildmon I do think you were on to something earlier, though, and we mentioned this when, when Biden was in office and he, he opened the borders, wide open to, as we said, some say 12 to 15 million people walked into our country. I never will forget, we'll forget the interview with, Joe Biden, but he was in the White House, like, year one, and somebody said, do you know that the border's wide open? There's videos of just thousands of people pouring in here every day. Right? And he said, well, they must think I'm a nice guy. Do you remember this?
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon I'm going like, that's your. This is your president. You're, You're. He's swore his hand on the Bible to defend the laws of our country. And then he said, with respect to immigration, we're not going to have any laws. Y' all come. And then he said, they must like me. most think I'm a nice guy. I remember him saying that. Anyway, well, we'll see what happens now. But President, Trump did win the election, and I think that what this was a big issue during the presidential election. So I think a majority of Americans, maybe not a substantial majority, but at least a majority of Americans do believe in law and order when it comes to immigration into our country. And we can't allow just people to pour in. And he's. President Trump ran on going after the bad guys who were here illegally and deporting them. And that's what ICE has been trying to do. But as I say, as we've seen what's happened here, they've been met by physical resistance in many of the, blue cities. We'll be back after this short time out with more of today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.
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Tim Wildman: It's easy to criticize another man's hobby
Ed Vitagliano Welcome to today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
Tim Wildmon Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR. I'm Tim Wildmon and today is Monday, January 12, 2026. And, as always, we thank you for listening to American Family Radio. Well, in studio with me is Ed Battagliano. Good morning.
Ed Vitagliano Good morning, Tim.
Tim Wildmon Brother Ed and brother Fred Jackson. Good morning.
Fred Jackson How you doing, Ed?
Tim Wildmon Ed and Tim.
Fred Jackson And Tim. You guys, I was gonna ask you. I was out for drive yesterday and I saw people golfing in this now very cold weather.
Tim Wildmon Really?
Fred Jackson And I wondered if it was you.
Tim Wildmon No, it wasn't me yesterday. I do have my limitations for the addiction. I can control myself when it gets below 50. Okay. And the wind's blowing and it's in the. For, for golfers, they would understand what I'm saying. Also, there's something called, pat. Cart, path only. That mean anything to you guys?
Ed Vitagliano Card path only.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. Okay, so golf courses have cart paths. Yeah, for the golf carts. And they're concrete. Normally, unless you got a really redneck course, which is just, just roots and grass and a five dollar green fee, you get what you paid for. But most golf courses have concrete paths. But if the ground is so wet that they won't let you drive out on the, on the course. I call it cart path only.
Ed Vitagliano Oh, so you have to leave your cart.
Tim Wildmon Yes.
Ed Vitagliano And wall your stuff.
Tim Wildmon You have to do a lot of exercise, which is.
Ed Vitagliano What's the point of that?
Tim Wildmon Well, that's what I'm saying. So. Yeah. What me, Fred.
Fred Jackson Okay.
Tim Wildmon But anyway, yeah. So, we hope everybody had a nice weekend. If you, worship at the altar of football, you were able to succeed in, much idolatry. Huh?
Ed Vitagliano You're agreeing with the little old ladies who don't like football anyway.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. You know what's funny to me? As people criticize, I had a lady write me one time, say, you need to quit talking about golf. You need to Give up golf. That's a rich man sport.
Ed Vitagliano Oh, is it?
Tim Wildmon I've never heard. That's what I asked her.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon Is it really? Anyway, who cares, right? I was going like, why do you care whether I golf or not?
Ed Vitagliano Well. And especially. Okay, so, we start judging.
Tim Wildmon That's what I'm saying. Let's judge each other.
Ed Vitagliano People who drink $8 lattes or get their coffee from Starbucks and, you know, cost seven, eight dollars a pop. Okay. Are going to tell you you can't golf because that's a rich man sport. okay. Well, then drinking coffee is a rich woman's sport.
Tim Wildmon I know.
Ed Vitagliano I mean, stay, in your lane. Everyone else will stay in theirs. I was there.
Tim Wildmon well, it's like you said, you know, everybody's got something they enjoy.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon That they usually have a hobby or something like that. And so it's easy to criticize another man's hobby.
Fred Jackson Right.
Ed Vitagliano Right.
Tim Wildmon but you don't want anybody criticizing yours. Right?
Ed Vitagliano Correct.
Tim Wildmon so.
Ed Vitagliano And I'm not even. Listen, I'm not even. I don't even golf. So this wasn't. I wasn't being defensive, but I could.
Tim Wildmon Judge you about watching Bruins hockey game. Sure. If I wanted to.
Ed Vitagliano Absolutely.
Fred: I am looking forward to warm weather that will be here soon
Tim Wildmon And you would be guilty.
Ed Vitagliano I would probably fall on the. In the guilty column if. If, if watching Bruins hockey was wrong.
Fred Jackson Right.
Ed Vitagliano Which obviously it's not.
Fred Jackson It's just painful.
Tim Wildmon Why don't you do it to yourself?
Ed Vitagliano It's been a little bit painful this year anyway.
Tim Wildmon All right. No, Fred, that wasn't me golfing yesterday, my friend. But I am looking forward to warm weather that, Which will be here in a few. Couple months.
Ed Vitagliano Good luck and.
Ed Vitagliano good luck for a couple of months.
Tim Wildmon We have three weeks of, quote, winter here where we live usually, and then it'll be gone.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Fred Kaplan says there's a lot happening in the news this morning
Tim Wildmon All right. a lot to talk about today. A lot happening in the news. Wow. I mean, since last we talked.
Fred Jackson Yeah.
Tim Wildmon my word. a lot of things going on. All right, Fred, what's leading the news this morning?
Fred Jackson Well, one begins to wonder if somewhere in the White House there is a corkboard, which says, countries to conquer because we've now moved on from Venezuela. And, up next is Iran before or after Greenland?
Ed Vitagliano Well, that's the Greenland sandwich.
Fred Jackson Maybe it's number three on the cork board.
President Trump says Iran wants to negotiate. Now, what that means
All right, so in Iran, if folks, had some time to watch reports on the weekend, the protests there against the Islamic regime are only increasing, despite the fact reports are saying that more than 540 of those protesters, have been killed. we've also had pro or, I guess anti Islamic regime protest by Iranians living in this country, Iranians living in Paris. So it is building the pressure against the Islamic regime there. the protests, they say started because of the economy is wrecked, in Iran. It's terrible. but the latest this morning is that President Trump says Iran wants to negotiate. Now, what that means, we're not sure. but here's President Trump talking about this. I believe he was asked about this on Air Force One on his way back to D.C. last night. Cut number one.
Ed Vitagliano These are violent. If you call them leaders, I don't know if they're leaders or just they rule through violence. But we're looking at it very seriously. The military is looking at it, and, we're looking at some very strong options. We'll make a determination. Iran wants to negotiate. Yes.
Fred Jackson We may meet with them.
Ed Vitagliano I mean, a meeting is being set up, but we may have to act because of what's happening before the meeting. But a meeting is being set up. Iran call. They want to negotiate.
Fred Jackson Well, one of the persons who's very interested in this is, known as the Crown Prince, Razi Malavi. He is the son of the former shah, remember back 1979, when the Islamic regime took over, from the Shah there?
Tim Wildmon That's when Ted Koppel got his start.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon Remember the Nightline?
Ed Vitagliano Oh, yeah.
Tim Wildmon The Iranian. Iranian Hostage crisis, day 38. Yeah.
Fred Jackson Young, Pahlavi, was just 17 when that occurred. And what did he do after that? He came to the United States, trained as a fighter pilot here in the U.S. but now, of course, what a lot of people believe and want, apparently, is for him to be returned. And he is commenting on what's going on in Iran right now. And that will be, cut number three.
Speaker D Mr. President, you have already established your legacy as a man committed to peace and fighting evil forces. There is a reason why people in Iran are renaming streets after your name. They know that you are totally opposite to Barack Obama or Joe Biden. They know that you're not going to throw them under the bus as they have had before. This is why they believe that this time they are empowered by the hope that we have their back. Let's hope that we can permanently seal this legacy by liberating Iran so that we and you can make Iran great again. We hope only that the Iranian people this time will be victorious. And, ah, they will be, because I know that Iranians are prepared to die for this Cause and so am I. We're doing everything we can. And I think it's not just for us as Iranians and is for the whole world.
Ed Vitagliano He said that to the president? Why did he say that? Well, this person.
Fred Jackson This was picked up on the weekend. I'm not sure. I'd. Not sure he's. He met with the President directly. I have not seen that report. I think this is.
Tim Wildmon He's making a comment, just a history review here. For those who don't remember are too young to know the.
Tim Ferriss: Iran is a Persian country, not an Arab
What happened with Iran. We mentioned the Iranian Revolution in 79. Yeah, 79. So Iran is a Persian country. It's not an Arab country. It's a Persian country. Different kind of different ethnicity, different language. And they, It's a big country. I don't know how many. 50 million, something like that. Pretty big country. Maybe more than that. I'm just guessing. but they were under a, Hey, what would you call it? A dictatorship, A friendly dictatorship to the us The Shah of Iran. The Shah, he was friendly to the West?
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon And I don't know if you call him a dictatorship or not, but basically he was in. He was ruling over, I think.
Ed Vitagliano It was essentially a dynastic kind of monarchy.
Tim Wildmon Okay.
Ed Vitagliano And by the way I looked it up, it's 90. 90 million. 90 million in, Iran. It's a big country.
Tim Wildmon So they had a revolution over there, an Islamic religious revolution in 79. And the, that's when they overthrew the Shah, who was again friendly to the west. And they basically had an open society there, a lot of educated, Iranians and well traveled anyway. But the religious mullahs, that is clerics, whatever you want to call them, the, Shia, Shia, part of Islam, very strict. They took over the country by force. And the Ayatollah Khomeini was a figurehead. He was the main. I said more than figurehead. He was the main one. He was like over the mullahs. And so, he became the dictator basically, and his friends, imposing Sharia law. And so it was a radical change for the people of Iran at the time, and it's been that way ever since. And, now this is the second uprising in the last 15 years. The first one was in 2009 and it was ultimately subdued by the mullahs. Mullahs again are the religious leaders led by the ayatollah. And so now they got the same thing happening again. That's what this gentleman is talking about. Who is the son of the Shah, who's no longer alive. And I, guess he was. People, are thinking maybe he'll come back to Iran and take over in leadership should the Ayatollah, Khomeini and the, mullahs be overthrown. But that's a long way from happening. Seems to me right now, even though reports are that we're getting a lot of uprisings throughout, and a lot of this seems to be economically economic, frustration.
Fred Jackson Inflation rate is just, skyrocketed.
Tim Wildmon Probably a lot of it because the economic sanctions that have been imposed by the world against, at least the Western world against Iran, they have.
Ed Vitagliano Problems with water supply. They have a lot of problems over. And, Now, Fred, some of the talk information over the weekend was that, forces loyal to Khomeini and to the mullahs, this Islamic regime, were just killing protesters. That the number m might be as high as 500 or more. It's difficult to get accurate figures because the Iranian regime cut the Internet.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Ed Vitagliano In part to keep people from using social media to have their protests gain steam.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Ed Vitagliano But also it does limit the information going out of the country.
Fred Jackson Well, not only that, but Fox's, military expert, Jack, Keane, he was saying even for those arrested, it's almost a death sentence.
Ed Vitagliano Right.
Fred Jackson because they usually end up killing them in prison, hanging them in prison. Yeah. they, they don't have a justice system like we're familiar with here. So. Yeah, it's a dire situation, but, you know, Iran doesn't have any. Yes. Tim, you were saying they are a Persian nation, but Iran doesn't have many friends right now in the Arab world, given the Gaza peace plan that President Trump has put in place. Because you got some of the major players involved with that, I guess their closest friend right now may be Russia. Russia, that is the only ally that they have. So it's going to be interesting. As we reported a few minutes ago, President Trump is talking about, they're interested. That's the Islamic regime in negotiations.
Tim Wildmon Any idea what he might mean by that?
Fred Jackson Well, that's what I was going to say. I don't see it coming together. Where do those minds come together on this? how do you stop, the rioting that's going on there? I think you have a very strong uprising by the people of Iran that is not going to be quelled by keeping the Islamic regime in place.
Ed Vitagliano Well, I certainly hope the Trump administration is not or would not be thinking in that direction. the Only thing I can think of is you just tell, the, the leaders, the, you know, I don't know how, how high up you go in terms of the mullahs, but you just tell them, we will guarantee your safety to go to a country of your choice, but you got to step down and you got to allow free and fair elections. Or have the son of the Shah, who is deposed in 79, have him come back and take over the country.
Whatever negotiation that President Trump is talking about with Iran wouldn't possibly involve military action
there is one of the things, I don't know if you're wanted to talk about this, but there's been a lot of talk of the last 10 years or so of Christian conversions.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Ed Vitagliano In, in that country. Now, I'm sure it's still a small percentage of the total number of people in Iran I just mentioned. I looked it up 90 million. But it's apparently the country with the fastest conversion rate in the world.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Ed Vitagliano People converting to Christianity. And we won't know until this regime does fall and freedom is kind of let loose. We won't know how many of the Muslims in that country are Muslims in name only because they're living under the heel of these mullahs. We won't know until.
Fred Jackson To your point, one of our editors, Billy Davis, right now is in contact with an Iranian woman, who is a Christian. she has left the country many years ago. but she says the Iranian people would welcome the, Shah's grandson back in. Far better for the Iranian people, she says. So we're going to have a story on this in the next week or so. direct testimony from this Iranian woman who went to prison when they discovered that she was a Christian. She was handing out Bibles with a friend there in Iran, went to prison, but they did let them go. And now she's willing to tell her story. So we're going to have that story on afn, hopefully by, by the end of the week.
Tim Wildmon Whatever negotiation that President Trump is talking about with Iran, it wouldn't possibly involve military action, would it?
Fred Jackson I mean, it would involve the threat, I believe, of military action.
Ed Vitagliano I think that's clearly the threat that's on the table because he said that Iran was getting close to crossing a line with the pro protesters.
Fred Jackson Red line.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, red line. So, I don't know.
Tim Wildmon that seems contrary to, not getting us involved in foreign wars, which is one of the staples of the MAGA movement. Right?
Ed Vitagliano Yeah. And that has been, that has been an issue in the MAGA movement is that split, that foreign policy split which foreign policy is hard to Navigate sometimes.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. Because things change in the world, too.
Ed Vitagliano They do. And what you thought was going to be America's strategic interests. Let's stay away from foreign intervention. Sometimes, like in the case of probably a Venezuela, you go, well, we had to do something because our enemies were getting a foothold in our own hemisphere.
Fred Jackson Yeah.
Ed Vitagliano and so who knows, where this is going to wind up? But I am glad to see that Iran has been isolated to a large degree, with the exception of China and Russia. Probably North Korea and China and Russia. Certainly big dogs on the world stage. But I don't see anybody in Europe defending, the mullah's rights to keep the Iranian people in servitude.
President Trump warns Cuba that zero oil or money will flow from Venezuela
Tim Wildmon next story, Fred.
Fred Jackson Well, next story is related to Venezuela, by the way. You mentioned. Did not realize until the weekend, China gets 85% of its oil from Venezuela.
Tim Wildmon Who does?
Fred Jackson China.
Ed Vitagliano I didn't know it was that much.
Fred Jackson But that's what was reported on the weekend. I did not realize that. But, in connection with Venezuela, Cuba depended greatly. Has depended greatly on Venezuela. And on the weekend, President Trump warning Cuba. And this is a Newsweek story, Tim, that you sent out earlier. Warn Cuba that zero oil or money will flow from Venezuela, urging Havana to make a deal before it's too late. So it's made a deal with Trump. Time.
Tim Wildmon President Trump's turning into Monty hall here. Let's make a deal.
Ed Vitagliano Listen, that would be, that would be a great thing. I don't know how the thing's going to play out in Venezuela. A lot of moving pieces in terms of where that country goes. but if President Trump is able to cause the communist, regime in Cuba to finally fold, that would. Listen, you talk about making Cuba great again. That country has been oppressed since 1959 when Fidel Castro took over. And you talk about waiting a long time to rejoin the world. That country was pretty well to do back before the Communists take over. they certainly have been, experiencing the, quote, unquote, blessing of communist ideology for the last. Whatever that is. It's 45, something like that. 46 years. that'd be a wonderful thing if Trump could pull that off.
Fred Jackson Had the chance to visit Cuba with Trans World Radio back several years ago. It is an absolutely beautiful country. It's beautiful. The mountainous. I didn't realize that's where all the.
Ed Vitagliano Communists were hanging out.
Fred Jackson It's incredible. The tourism potential, the beautiful beaches, all of that sort of thing. So it's this great plum that just somebody needs to grab. And I'm sure the Cuban people would love. But, but again, the question is, and Timothy. Okay. What negotiations do you have with the Castros to, make them give up?
Tim Wildmon I'll tell you what, now we've got some nice old model cars they may be interested in. I'm talking about some 1950s classics that, they might be interested in down there. You know what? Cuba is no threat to the United States. I don't see militarily. I mean, they're, they live under communism, but until they, overthrow it themselves.
Ed Vitagliano Well, I think that's what Trump's hoping to do by, by saying no oil. No oil for you, so you can't drive your cars. Well, I think he wants to put economic pressure, on change the government.
Tim Wildmon Yeah, yeah, that's good. Okay. I can, I can go for that.
Ed Vitagliano You, you remember the old Seinfeld thing? No soup for you. No soup for you. No oil for your Cuba.
Tim Wildmon So, so is President Trump's, so he's, is he blockading?
Ed Vitagliano no, I think he's, this is why I said that I don't know how things are going to wind up going in Venezuela. He wants Venezuela to stop giving oil and money to Cuba. Cuba was, I guess in exchange for that using, you know, sending, some of their military members over for security details. but I think he wants Venezuela to shut off the spigot. I'm not sure Venezuela is going to do that.
President Trump wants stronger military presence on Greenland to help deter Russia
Tim Wildmon All right, well, President Trump's not busy. Nothing, nothing much else happening in the world, is there?
Fred Jackson Well, apparently all of what we've talked about is not enough for President, Trump this week. He has his Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, who's not busy enough already. He's going to talk to the Danes about Greenland because President Trump at the very least wants a greater presence in Greenland.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, now that country does have a lot of strategic significance. It does in terms of potential missile attacks. If there was ever a nuclear exchange with Russia, I think we talked about this on the program, those missiles would go right over Greenland. and also to have a stronger military presence on Greenland to help deter Russia, or to have a forward operating base and pre positioned supplies, troops, whatever, in case there's a clash in Europe. But there's also a big, big, a lot of minerals, very important, rare earth minerals in Greenland. So the President Trump has. Am I exaggerating or did he basically say, we're taking Greenland where you can, you can sell it to us. But I'm not ruling out the military.
Tim Wildmon Yes, the easy way. Or the hard way. Greenlanders just figured out that what he told them.
Ed Vitagliano I think that's basically what he said.
Tim Wildmon well, all right. It's a little complicated because Denmark, a.
Ed Vitagliano Small European country, member of NATO.
Tim Wildmon Member of NATO, which the United States is the big player there in providing funding and military to defend Western Europe from any kind of Russia or aggression because the prior Soviet Union, communistic, you know, expansionism, I guess you could say. So now, now we're, now we're talking about taking. I think there should. So Marco Rubio is going over there, our secretary of State, to talk to the Denmark leaders about, Greenland.
Ed Vitagliano We'd like to move into your neighborhood.
Tim Wildmon About that fishing village. We want to take over. We'll be back.
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Don't miss the Hannah's Heart Women's Conference coming up January 30-31
Tim Wildmon Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. That's the name of this here show, today's Issues. And I'm Tim Wildmon with Ed Intagliano and Fred Jackson talking about stories that are in the news. And, before we get back to the current events, Ed, you have an announcement to make?
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, I just want to let our listeners know. Do not miss.
Tim Wildmon Do not miss.
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Tim Wildmon When?
Ed Vitagliano That's coming up? January 30th and 31st, the end of this month.
Tim Wildmon What's going to be? What's the emphasis?
Ed Vitagliano the emphasis is going to be through it all and is going.
Tim Wildmon That doesn't tell me anything, though.
Ed Vitagliano Well, I already read you were looking at football scores.
Tim Wildmon I was. I was watching you leading you through what all.
Ed Vitagliano Okay, so.
Tim Wildmon No, no, I know the answer to this. I'm thinking of a listener out there going, it's just another women's conference. We have them in my neighborhood. I don't have to drive to Tupelo to get a women's conference. So I'm asking you what's special about this?
Ed Vitagliano So, you know, I. I'm just reading.
Tim Wildmon Are you just reading the script?
Ed Vitagliano I'm just reading.
Tim Wildmon They just pay you to read because you're a pretty face. Is that what it is?
Ed Vitagliano Another, listen, it says, this woman's conference will be for women and families living life. That may not look like you planned.
Tim Wildmon Okay, I'll tell you what it's about.
Ed Vitagliano Okay.
Tim Wildmon Okay. It's. It's. It is about that, generally speaking. But the Hannah's Heart program deals with women who, who can't have babies naturally a lot, and for various reasons. And so it's very. That's very painful reality for a lot of women. And so, they. This is a sisterhood of folks who are going through and have been through struggles in that realm, and there are other things, too. But that's basically what they started out as. Hannah's Heart, that's a radio program that we do here on American, because life.
Ed Vitagliano Sometimes throws you curveballs. Kind of like when you just are, told just to read a script, and then your boss asks you for additional information, information that you don't have, and you're scrambling to. To.
Tim Wildmon I tried to give you a chance.
Ed Vitagliano To do it yourself, to make sense.
Tim Wildmon Of the world like I'm talking to one of my sons. I gave you an opportunity to do it yourself. Now I'm gonna have to do it for you. No, you, did read the script that was given to you.
Ed Vitagliano Yes.
Tim Wildmon To make the announcement about the conference. Tell us how to. How to, For more information, seriously, about this conference for ladies, and women. How do they do that?
Ed Vitagliano And for more information, you can either contact him directly or you can go to afa.afa.net events this is the Hannah's Heart Women's Conference. It's titled Through it all, coming up January 30th and 31st, afa.netforward/events and you'll be able to see more information right there.
Tim Wildmon I think another one of the, what do you call them when you go to a conference and you.
Ed Vitagliano Have side, like breakout.
Tim Wildmon Breakouts. One of the breakout sessions is going to be, how to help take over Greenland. I think that's going to be one of the breakout sessions.
Ed Vitagliano Doesn't appear that we're going to need all that much help doing it.
President Trump has dispatched Secretary of State Marco Rubio to Greenland
Tim Wildmon All right, so before the break, Fred, you said that President Trump has dispatched. I say dispatched. Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
Fred Jackson Yes. Heading to Denmark.
Tim Wildmon Heading to Denmark to talk to the Danes, all seven of them about, about the fishing village in Greenland that we, we might be sending in the, 82nd Airborne. Is that right? I did overstated that.
Fred Jackson I think you overstated it, however. No, we need to. I need to back up a little bit. Back up a little bit there. The White House has used the term were not opposed to sending the military. Now. They've kind of drawn back from that because that just got everybody in a fit. You know, we're going to send the US Military to take over Greenland.
Tim Wildmon We already have a military base. Right.
Fred Jackson We have a little one.
Tim Wildmon So we can use our own base.
Fred Jackson We have a station there that's been there for many decades.
Tim Wildmon Okay.
Fred Jackson but there are two concerns. Number one is the. That's being listed is that Greenland is strategic in our efforts to keep the Russians and the Chinese in check. There's great concern that they can, from that area of the world, they could launch attacks against our.
Tim Wildmon All joking aside. Yes, that is a, what you just mentioned is a legitimate, fact.
Fred Jackson Absolutely.
Tim Wildmon Okay, so, yeah, so it's a, it's the largest island in the world. Yes. Okay.
Fred Jackson Huge.
Tim Wildmon So. And it's very strategic. We mentioned that before. Military, militarily and otherwise. So. And President Trump has said, basically, it's, It's a NATO, Greenland, Denmark is a member of NATO.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon And we, the United States, are the major supplier of military support for NATO, or have been. And money.
Fred Jackson Correct.
Tim Wildmon So it's not unreasonable to say to our fellow NATO member, hey, look, we need access to this land, to be able to defend you, to carry out the mission of NATO, should it, come to that. Is that right?
Fred Jackson I think at the very least, what Secretary of State Rupio is probably going to say is at the very least, we need to expand our existing military presence in Greenland. that is something the Danes might be open to.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. If not buy it outright. if you can do that. I mean, that. Well, that's been done down through history. Right. Louisiana Purchase comes to Alaska. Alaska.
Ed Vitagliano From the Russians.
Tim Wildmon We bought land before around the world.
Ed Vitagliano At this, Petufic, I think. I'm not sure how you pronounce it. Petufic. It used to be called Thule, air base, that the, that the U.S. Air Force, and now the Space Force uses. so we do have a base there. And it hosts the 12th Space Warning Squadron, which operates a ballistic missile early warning system. So that's used to detect the launch and, the progress, of ICBM's shoulder continental ballistic missiles that are launched against North America. So I'm not sure what else we want there. Perhaps some missile bases that would shoot down missiles.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. If Russia launched at us, we want cheaper salmon. You know, that could be a part of the deal.
Ed Vitagliano It could be. I'd be. I'd be willing to. That'd be great.
Tim Wildmon Better price on salmon.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon Yeah. All right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Next story. Fred?
Fred Jackson Well, let's come back home.
Tim Biden: Minneapolis incident involving ICE agents sparks heated debate
Minneapolis, is still the focus of a lot of tension today that in the wake of the incident involving ICE agents, there last week where, and I think most people have seen video of this incident, a woman who has now been described as a ICE Watch warrior there in Minneapolis, she was interfering with the operations of our ICE agents there in that city. And, she had an encounter. And, when it was over, the driver of this SUV that you've probably now seen the picture of was dead. The initial reports coming mainly from the mainstream media, was the ICE agent who shot her did so in an unwarranted fashion. Well, what happened within 24 to 48 hours? what we didn't know initially is that ICE agent had a camera on. And they released the video of the encounter which proved that this woman, Renee, Nicole. Good. As she tried to speed away from that area, she actually hit this ICE agent. And many people now believe that, he was justified in shooting.
Tim Wildmon This lady tried to get, you know, I couldn't tell by the video. Did he fire before or after he was hit? Does anyone know?
Ed Vitagliano I think. I think he fired as the vehicle was coming. She. When she gunned it to leave, or, whatever she was intending, it looked like she was headed straight for this officer. He had his cell phone out in one and then drew his weapon and fired. And as he's pulling his weapon out, it looks like she started to turn, probably to get away from that. That, you know, what handgun.
Tim Wildmon This woman, what was her name?
Fred Jackson Renee Nicole Goode.
Tim Wildmon She was looking for trouble and she found it. Yes, she was looking for trouble all day. Is now confirmed that she and her, quote, wife, she was a lesbian. She was out. They were out, trying to impede the work of ice.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon And by blocking a road with their vehicle.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon And the ICE agent I saw the video came up to her, and she's being a smart aleck to him and taunting him, as is her. If that's her. Her wife. I'm hearing her mate, whatever you want to call her. If, I'm hearing. On the other. Is it. Was that the other voice on that video? Was that her significant other or something like that?
Ed Vitagliano Okay, that was the original.
Tim Wildmon And she's the one who's walking around, like within 10ft of the ICE agent or agents again, doing the same thing, taunting them and, impeding their work and their access to the road. So I'm sorry, this lady lost her life. That's, I'm sorry. But, she, put herself in a bad position.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon And, And the ICE officer was being charged, being about to be mowed down with a car. Anybody wouldn't. Anybody would fire a weapon. If you're. By the way, this same ICE officer had, like, a few months ago, been dragged by a car, almost tore his arm off up in the hospital. About somebody doing the same type thing.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon Here. So you know what, guys? This is the. The Democrats, not all Democrats, but some of these Democrat officials and, people on the left, they are antagonizing this situation. They're throwing gas on the. On the fire here. the mission of, the Immigration ice.
Ed Vitagliano what's the next Immigration Customs Enforcement.
Tim Wildmon Okay. They've been around for a long time, right through Democrat and Republican administrations. They are tasked with rounding up the bad guys and deporting them or catching them. And we're talking about hardened criminals, we're talking about drug dealers, people involved in human trafficking, gang activities, people.
Ed Vitagliano Involved in fraud, fraud up in that part of the state.
Tim Wildmon So that's the reason they exist. So they are federal agents. And now, because Biden let 15 million people in here, we got a lot of bad dudes. And that ICE is responsible for finding out where they are and going to pick them up, detain them, arrest Them. Well, the Democrats don't want that. They, they don't. They don't want ICY doing anything.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon because they're trying. A lot of them are encouraging people to go out and, and, and physically, impede, as this lady was doing here, who got shot and killed. The work of ice.
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon I don't, I'm not sure exactly. I know people say, Tim, don't be naive. I'm not sure exactly how to process this, Ed. Why. Why are they doing this?
Ed Vitagliano Well, I think you got it exactly right, by the way. They're not only trying to get people to be antagonistic and hostile and impede ICE in its lawful duties. There are also these political leaders in places like Minneapolis and Minnesota saying, we're not going to turn out the local cops either. So can you imagine if ICE had cooperation with Minneapolis Police Department, and they. And Minneapolis. Minneapolis Police Department would arrest people, like.
Tim Wildmon Who are using their cars to block the road.
Ed Vitagliano To block the road. You arrest them. It has nothing to do with ice. Ma', am. You can't park.
This is driving the far left just absolutely bananas on immigration
Tim Wildmon Right, right.
Ed Vitagliano And, but so they're, they're inflaming the situation, these politicians, and then saying, we're not going to give you local police help. I saw, I saw another video of a couple of ICE agents being, challenged by an entire, neighborhood full of Somalis. They had to back out because nobody was coming to help them. And listen, first of all, it's Donald Trump doing this. This is driving the, the far left just absolutely bananas.
Tim Wildmon So the righteousness or lack of the case doesn't matter? Well, I say lack of, or, the lawfulness of it, I should say not necessarily righteousness, although they overlap. That doesn't matter. It's because Trump is initiating it. Therefore, we resist. Right?
Ed Vitagliano Yes, absolutely. And then the Democratic Party has been in love with immigration, whether it's legal or not. And they do not want to see their hard work air quotes under the Biden administration of filling this country up with illegal immigrants. They don't want to see that hard work reversed. And, you know, we just got through here. This month will be one year of Trump's first, his first year of his last term. Okay, there's three more years. And the left is, feels it incumbent upon themselves to try to stop everything Trump wants to do because they may not get another shot like they had under Biden to fill this country up.
Portland police chief cries over shooting of two Venezuelan gang members by ICE agents
Tim Wildmon Related to this. Did you guys see the video of the police chief in Portland crying?
Fred Jackson Yes.
Tim Wildmon Okay.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, that was pathetic.
Tim Wildmon Okay. The police chief in Portland, Oregon, had a press conference. I've forgotten his name. His name is Day. D A Y. I think his last name. There was a shooting in, a confrontation between two, Venezuelan gang members. Right.
Fred Jackson Yes. A man and a woman.
Tim Wildmon A man and a woman. Yep. What's the name of the gang?
Ed Vitagliano Trent Tren. Aragua.
Tim Wildmon Okay. Anyway, that's the name. Anyway, the ICE agents were, confronted with them and shot them.
Fred Jackson They were driving.
Tim Wildmon They were driving.
Fred Jackson They were in a vehicle.
Tim Wildmon So the, the, the police chief of Portland, Oregon. Why was he crying at this press.
Ed Vitagliano Bob Day.
Tim Wildmon Okay, Bob Day. Can either one of you guys say. Tell me when he was talking about this?
Fred Jackson They were wounded by, by the shots that were fired. And he felt bad about that.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, he, he was upset. it's trend. Aragua is the name of this Venezuelan gang. He was upset because he's very supportive of the Venezuelan community, the immigrant community. And he was. Sorry, Portland. In Portland.
Tim Wildmon And so he's, he's sorry that two of their. Two of the gang members were.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah, he. I listened to some of it. He sound like he's talking about the, hostility.
Tim Wildmon It sounded like a snowflake. The police chief should not be up there weeping Right. Over two gang members being confronted by ICE agents. Right, right. I mean, you would think. But it sounded like to me he was going, well, I feel bad for the whole Venezuelan community here, our immigrant community here, because they're not all like this. but he, but sound like to me, he had to also confess that these two did have gang member ties to this. So it just seemed like, well, they're a, they are a. Portland and Oregon would be a sanctuary state.
Fred Jackson Yes. Just like.
Tim Wildmon So they want as many illegals to come there as possible. They don't call them illegals. They call them undocumented or what. I don't know what they call them.
Fred Jackson Now, but, you know, it's. It's a picture of the mindset. This police chief. And you've got the mayor of Minneapolis, Frye, you got the governor of Minnesota, waltz. Within an hour after the incident, the shooting of this woman. They in their press conference pretty well had the ICE agent convicted of murder. That's the way they were talking.
Tim Wildmon Well, the NewSong York mayor, the Democrat, Mandan, he called it murder.
Fred Jackson He called it murder. They immediately there in Minneapolis tried to equate this with George Floyd. Here you go. This is another George Floyd. An innocent lady just, you know, she has her First Amendment rights to protest. And look what the ICE agent Did to her. They tried. That was the narrative. They tried to get out there right away.
Ed Vitagliano And Bob, that wasn't true.
Tim Wildmon No, go ahead.
Ed Vitagliano I was gonna say. And Bob Day, the police chief in Portland, had to admit that the shooting was because these individuals are connected to Trend Aragua. And this is what he said. He wanted to, mention, quote, the historic injustice of victim blaming, end quote, by law enforcement. And then he said, including within his.
Tim Wildmon Own agency, the chief of police of Portland.
Ed Vitagliano Chief of police is. He says, quote, I want to speak for just a moment specifically to my Latino community. It saddens me that we even have to qualify these remarks because I understand, or at least have attempted to understand your voices, your concern, your fear and your anger. So about what? about the way they've been treated in the past.
Tim Wildmon People of Portland mistreating the Hispanics. Latinos.
Ed Vitagliano Yeah. And I'm sure he wants to blame the Trump administration for that, but he said even within his own department. and so does that.
Tim Wildmon I know you. I'm not, I'm not asking you to defend him.
Portland Mayor expresses concern over arrests of suspected gang members
I guess I'm asking you to. So what does that have to do. Seems like to me his job should be to get up there and announce the arrest of these people or what the stats of the matter was not. He's getting into the social justice movement.
Ed Vitagliano Yes. which might explain his, his, his, his tears is he's basically saying, okay, we have to admit these were gang members, violent gang members. However, let me say that does not change the fact that immigrants in Portland and in this country are getting a raw deal. I think that was the point he was trying to make.
Tim Wildmon Let me ask you this one other question. So it's becoming apparent to me that these, we just have a completely contrasting view of law and order here in this country. Because it seems to me the Democrats, they don't, they don't believe in. They believe that borders are immoral and that people should be allowed to come here from all over the world and pour in here and nothing be done to deter them or stop them. And even criminals, they don't believe I should go after trying to arrest him. That seems to be what they're the hill they're going to die on. So that's their worldview. Is that. How do you interpret it any other way?
Ed Vitagliano I don't know. I don't think that's unfair at all what you just said. I, think that is. If that is not spot on, it is right next door.
Tim Wildmon That's kind of scary that 50% of the country. If you want to say now, maybe not all Democrats subscribe to that. There would be some who don't, but these are people who vote, and they're voting for the. For the end of our immigration laws. How do you process.
Ed Vitagliano I would, I would. I would say to the, to the left. I would take you more seriously if you would at least say right. absolutely. We are in favor and support of the Trump administration getting rid of every illegal immigrant in this country who's a criminal, who was a criminal in the country they came from, or who became a criminal in this country. I'm not even talking about coming into the country illegally. I'm saying these people have committed crimes once they got here illegally, and that includes no fraud like we've seen in the Somali population. I would have a better, an easier time having a conversation with someone on the left who would say that. Let's start there bipartisan. Let's get rid of the criminals. Can we all agree on that? Now that we've done that and we've done that in a bipartisan manner, let's talk about what we do with people who've been here for 20, 25 years. Yes, they came here illegally. And then let's have a separate conversation about the ones who came into this country illegally under the Biden administration. But, no, all we get from the left is ICE should not be allowed to do its job. We, in parentheses. We don't care if they're criminals or not. That's sad, pathetic, and dangerous.
A majority of Americans believe in law and order when it comes to immigration
Tim Wildmon I do think you were on to something earlier, though, and we mentioned this when, when Biden was in office and he, he opened the borders, wide open to, as we said, some say 12 to 15 million people walked into our country. I never will forget, we'll forget the interview with, Joe Biden, but he was in the White House, like, year one, and somebody said, do you know that the border's wide open? There's videos of just thousands of people pouring in here every day. Right? And he said, well, they must think I'm a nice guy. Do you remember this?
Ed Vitagliano Yeah.
Tim Wildmon I'm going like, that's your. This is your president. You're, You're. He's swore his hand on the Bible to defend the laws of our country. And then he said, with respect to immigration, we're not going to have any laws. Y' all come. And then he said, they must like me. most think I'm a nice guy. I remember him saying that. Anyway, well, we'll see what happens now. But President, Trump did win the election, and I think that what this was a big issue during the presidential election. So I think a majority of Americans, maybe not a substantial majority, but at least a majority of Americans do believe in law and order when it comes to immigration into our country. And we can't allow just people to pour in. And he's. President Trump ran on going after the bad guys who were here illegally and deporting them. And that's what ICE has been trying to do. But as I say, as we've seen what's happened here, they've been met by physical resistance in many of the, blue cities. We'll be back after this short time out with more of today's issues on the American Family Radio Network. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.
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