Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildman
>> Ed Vitagliano: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Welcome back to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to afr. appreciate it very much. Today's Issues, the name of the show. We do have a podcast available, as all of our shows are podcasts. Just go to afr.net click on podcast and you can, listen, you know, to our show or any other show anytime you want to just download the podcast. Wesley Wildmon in with me, Ed Battagliano. And now Steve Paisley Jordal joins us.
Campaign to support Preborn offers free ultrasounds to pregnant women
>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning, everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: So, Wesley, I mentioned before the break, we got great numbers on our, campaign to support PreBorn, which is a pro life organization offering free ultrasounds to young ladies who are pregnant. Right?
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. And all the way through the end of the week, we're asking you to continue to partner with us if you have not already. Maybe you wanted to and you just forgot and got busy. but we're asking you to partner with us in helping reach our goal of 5,000 free ultrasounds, which is potentially 5,000 babies that could be saved from being aborted. And so we're asking you to partner us by calling 877-616-2396 or go to afr.net and I'll give that number and website one more time in just a second, but wanted to answer a few questions that you may have. And that said, a gift of $28 provides one free ultrasound, $140 provides five free ultrasounds. And so potentially, ah, five, messages of life there. And so that, again, that's $28. Provides one free ultrasound, 140 provides five free ultrasounds. And you can donate at 877-616-2396 or go to afr.net and help us our campaign and our partnership. Our promotion ends Friday, this Friday, January 30th. So if you could help us reach our goal, 5,000, just to give you, some more numbers of where we are. We're at 5,000. I'm sorry, we're at 3,592 as of early this morning. So probably over 3,600 now. Trying to get to 5,000, Bob, Friday. So please call in and help us with that.
One of three reasons God continues to sustain AFR, Steve says
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. Well, thank you for that report. And we are that we are all excited that we're 30 over 3500. almost to our 5000.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. And I believe that's one reason why God. One of three reasons God continues to sustain the ministry of AFR. we're over 40 years. The AFA is coming up on 50 years. And so, the reason. Well, I don't know. AFR is not at 40 years.
>> Tim Wildmon: AFA 1891 is when our first radio station went on the air.
>> Wesley Wildmon: AFA is coming up on 50 years. And so I think one of the reasons God has sustained us is because we share our platform with people who are doing uniquely different ministry than we're doing. And so for be able to partner with PreBorn to do the work that.
>> Tim Wildmon: They'Re doing, we're just raising money for them because we're a pro life group. We're not. You're just going to write them a check, so to speak, on behalf of AFR listeners. And. Here, go use this to save babies. That's all we're doing. We're not. There's no overhead. There's no, commit's not getting a commission right off this or anything like that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: all right, Steve, what do you got?
>> Steve Jordahl: First of all, I'm a little disappointed that after Friday, we're no longer going to be partnering with these people, because I think they're good. I think we should stick with them.
>> Wesley Wildmon: We're good.
>> Steve Jordahl: Let's.
>> Tim Wildmon: We're just ending our campaign. We're ending our. We're ending our campaign Friday. We'll be. We'll be doing this every year.
>> Steve Jordahl: Okay.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And we. And we partner with them all year long.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, like that, Steve. Take that.
>> Wesley Wildmon: But he is in the media, so words matter.
>> Ed Vitagliano: right.
Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner threatens violence against ICE agents
>> Steve Jordahl: I wanted to talk about this, too. Words matter. So, we've been talking about ICE agents and the attacks that they're under. it's. It's no longer just the radicals.
>> Speaker E: Ah.
>> Steve Jordahl: Now it's the establishment Democrat politicians that are threatening violence. I just came across this. This is a. Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner was at an anti ICE speech, I believe it was this morning. And, if I was an ICE agent in Minnesota. No, Philadelphia.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Steve Jordahl: Pennsylvania. If I was an ICE agent. Man, I tell you, this has got to be sending chills down your spine. Cut 15.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This is a small bunch of wannabe Nazis. That's what they are. In a country of 350 million, we outnumber them. If we have to hunt you down the way they hunted down Nazis for decades, we will find your identities.
>> Tim Wildmon: We will find you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: We will achieve justice.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who's that?
>> Steve Jordahl: That's Philadelphia DA Larry Krasner.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wow. So he's a district attorney is the.
>> Steve Jordahl: District attorney in Philadelphia.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Let me tell you something. If Democrats here in the near future control the White House and both houses of Congress, I have no doubt they.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Will do exactly what he said.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They will do exactly what he just said. They will be obviously in control of ice. They will find out the names of everyone at ice, every city they went to, everyone who is involved in Minneapolis or in Seattle or whatever, and they. I take this man at his word. They will try to go after. And listen, I think they'll go after Trump, they'll go after Republicans. There is a percentage of the Democratic Party that I think is increasingly in charge that are radicals and they call people Nazis, but they're the ones acting like the Gestapo.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, if I was an. I. If I was a protester in Minneapolis and I heard that all of a sudden, I can bring a gun with me to the protest, and I'm doing them a favor. if I'm going to, you know, it's permission to, strike and to further violence. another attorney general candidate played this a little bit for you guys this morning at a story meeting. His name is Elliot Forhan. He is a candidate to be Attorney General in Ohio, and this is what he has to say to Donald Trump. Cut 13.
Elliot Forhan says he plans to kill Donald Trump if elected attorney general
>> Tim Wildmon: This is Elliot Forhan, candidate for Ohio Attorney General. I want to tell you what I mean when I say that I am going to kill Donald Trump.
>> Steve Jordahl: I mean I'm going to obtain a conviction rendered by a jury of his.
>> Tim Wildmon: Peers and at a standard of proof beyond a reasonable doubt, based on evidence presented at a trial conducted in accordance with the requirements of due process, resulting in a sentence, duly executed, of capital punishment. That is what I mean when I say that I'm going to kill Donald Trump. For what?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, doesn't matter. Isn't he going to be arrested at some point?
>> Tim Wildmon: Jaywalking or.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, no, he's. No, he. He was careful to couch it in terms of saying, I am going to go through the legal channels to get Trump convicted. I. Again, to Tim's point, we don't know what capital. You can't just call for a death penalty for whatever you want. There are certain crimes, categories of crimes that you have to have committed.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I thought. I'm sorry, I thought he was threatening to kill Donald Trump.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, that's why he said kill it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Kill. Metaphorically.
>> Steve Jordahl: No, he literally wants Donald Trump strapped to the left.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well. Well, that's true. Kill him. In a legal way, yes. having convicted of something that has the death penalty attached to it. That's what he's talking about, and he's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Promising to do it, which is bizarre. This is the same thing with, you know, prosecutions that Trump went through in NewSong York. I promise you I'm going to get him convicted if you elect me. And, and here's. And without knowing the facts of the case. So this guy hasn't even said what he's going to have him convicted on.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, find the crime. You give me the. Give me the.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Give me the person. I'll find you the crime.
>> Tim Wildmon: Do we have the clip seal from yesterday where that podcaster that Lefty talked about Evangelical Christians?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Welsh was there.
>> Tim Wildmon: I want to play this because it fits right in with what we're talking about. I'm asking Brent Creely if he can find that. Played it yesterday.
>> Steve Jordahl: I left them all.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And while he's, while he's looking, for that, this person that's, Ohio running for Attorney general.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Is. Is this person. Is, oh, is Ohio in danger of this person being, you know, being elected?
>> Steve Jordahl: I haven't seen the polls. I'll, have to look that up for you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: I doubt it because it. Ohio's become a red state.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Ah.
There is a sentiment among the radical left that Christians deserve persecution
All right. So along the lines with what Steven is, Steve has just played the clips from two different, Democrat, officials. Well, the one that's not elected, that last one was a candidate. And then we go back the last half hour when we were playing clips from, some nurses in Florida saying they wouldn't treat, MAGA folks, who needed anesthesia or needed help medically. there is, there is an idea that is, in the, in the radical left on who the problem is in this country where, yes, yes, yes, President Trump is the point man for their hatred, but really they want to get rid of a particular group of people by either canceling them, debanking them, or in some cases, or don't treat them at the hospital or in some cases, you know, shutting down their businesses like we saw in Colorado with the Christian baker who, said, I'm not going to provide a cake. Jack Phillips, I'm not going to make a cake for a gay wedding. It's against my religious beliefs. And they went after him, the state of Colorado did. Now, he won his case, but it's.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Necessary to add this part of that also. Keep in mind, while also they had multiple other places they could have got their cake baked.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah. They just wanted to force him to bend. Bend the knee. But what I'm saying is the, there is a, a, sentiment among the radical left in this country that there is a group of people that in particular are to blame that deserve persecution. And what we played yesterday was a clip from a, ah, left wing podcaster who's very popular. What's her name?
>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, her last name is Welch, Jennifer Welch.
>> Tim Wildmon: There you go. You said, Steve, yesterday, that she's a, she's the left's, answer to Joe Rogan.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And Joe Rogan's not a conservative. He's an independent. Okay. He has conservative thoughts on some things.
>> Steve Jordahl: But he's just been fair and balanced.
>> Tim Wildmon: But this woman, we're about to hear, she has a, she has a popular. Would that be fair to say, popular podcast.
>> Steve Jordahl: It's a little bit astroturfed. I mean, she's not as popular as Joe Rogan, but they want to make her out to be.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, but, but. Well, if you're even half as popular, Joe Rogan, that's the one in the world. So, yeah, she's an enormous, that's an enormous audience. I mean, an influencer. But anyway, so this is, this is what she said on her podcast.
>> Speaker E: This is a cancer. White evangelical Christianity is a cancer. These are the worst of our country. These are the worst people in our country because they use their religion in two ways. As a weapon and as a shield. They weaponize it whenever they want to and say, we're on the moral high ground. You're a lesbian. You deserve to die. You're a lesbian. The cops shouldn't have, revived you. Oh, your parents are Mexicans and they brought you over here. Yeah, you should go to jail and eat worm food. And then when you call them out on it, they're after the Christians. How dare they? How dare they? we're so oppressed. White Christians are so oppressed in this country, and they want it both ways. Because in the religion that duplicity is taught, you can be morally duplicitous. You, you, you thrive in cognitive dissonance. And so this is just a massive, massive problem. And it should come as no surprise to anyone that of this cult that I'm talking about, white evangelicals, I think over 80% went and voted triple Trump.
>> Tim Wildmon: By the way. What? Triple trump's a cake.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, so I don't know. How do you vote for a cake?
>> Steve Jordahl: I do. I vote for cake every day. I would have it anyway.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So I guess that means 2016, 2020 and 2024 is triple Trump. That's the first time I've ever heard that. Am I way behind her?
>> Tim Wildmon: Listen, what she's saying, what she. She's spewing there.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, it's spewing too.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is. Is okay. That is. You talk about massive disinformation. Just outright lies. Absolutely. I don't listen. whites or evangelicals or Christians or whatever, nobody's beyond criticism if they take. Say things or have, Or, take actions that are right, immoral or wrong or.
>> Wesley Wildmon: But it's, The problem is, is it's not the position.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, no. She, She's. By the way, why, I wonder why does she insist on saying white evangelical Christians? Because I know a lot of black evangelical Christians. I know a lot of Hispanic evangelicals.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They're just as conservative.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know a lot of Asian. So why is she saying just white.
>> Steve Jordahl: You can't. Black people.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, you can't. You can't say anything bad about minorities. Is.
Jennifer Welsh says evangelical Christianity is a cancer that prevents America from progressing
>> Tim Wildmon: She's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Talk about being duplicitous and having your cake and eat it too, since we're talking about cake.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. She can say that evangelical, white, evangelical Christianity is a cancer because of what people believe about. For example, she said. Was talking about homosexuality, but she won't say that black, Latino, like you said, Asian. Other, groups who are also evangelical believe the same thing because we're all reading the same Bible.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So I don't know why she decided to go again, just single out wife.
>> Ed Vitagliano: She's a blatherskite. She is talking foolishness. And she is obviously. Listen, I saw several comments, under one of her. One of the articles where I went to see exactly, you know, the.
>> Tim Wildmon: What's her name again?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Jennifer, Welsh. And listen, the Christians in the comments were saying, it's clear that this woman has been hurt. We need to pray for her now. So I'm saying the way Christians are responding is totally against her portrait of them.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, she says we're the worst of the worst.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, we can't, sir.
>> Tim Wildmon: Can't.
>> Steve Jordahl: We're not throwing gay people off of buildings, by the way.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, but she said. No. She, she. She.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Religions are.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. She throws these things out that are outrageous. And listen, I've been a white evangelical Christian for a long time.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: And I don't like to apologize.
>> Tim Wildmon: What? No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know anybody, that believes that. I don't know anybody. Never even heard that before. the thing she's talking about, which, which she says she assigns motives to Christians that we want to. What she say? Lesbians deserve death.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. And if.
>> Tim Wildmon: Who's ever said that?
>> Wesley Wildmon: I don't know, anybody should be revived if they're dying.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Stuff.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: And Mexican said that.
>> Tim Wildmon: She said, you're, you're something. You're a Mexican. You deserve to eat worm food.
>> Ed Vitagliano: people put in prison if you're illegal and eat worm food.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know what? White evangelicals do more feeding of Hispanic people in Central America than any other.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Group, than atheist groups, I'll tell you that.
>> Steve Jordahl: And in, I know prisons, by the way.
>> Tim Wildmon: So if we want Mexicans de Warm food, by the way, I don't know what a Mexican evangelical does. They just. They can't feed themselves worms, can they? I mean, that's just a question I have here. If you're a Mexican evangelical.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: She would say. Because she said, she said that we white evangelicals, you know, the cancer.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: We want that. Our attitude is if you're a Mexican, that you should have to eat worm, in prison.
>> Ed Vitagliano: In prison.
>> Tim Wildmon: In prison, eat jail worm food.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This is one of those deals where you say, I'll take, things that never happened for $400.
>> Tim Wildmon: But. But while we're laughing about this, she's permeating a lot of pop culture out there. Yeah. She's influencing a lot of people's minds to have a bias against Christians, especially white evangelical Christians, as she says it, which could in the future, combine with all in the future if Democrats take control of everything. And I'm not by any means saying all Democrats would be in favor of persecuting, quote, white evangelical Christians. I'm just saying that attitude that we are the problem with America progressing. We are the cancer that keeps us from moving forward in human history. there could be, laws, there could be more persecution, genuine persecution coming our way because of this. I.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And I want to go on the record of predicting that that is exactly what's going to happen.
>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I. Listen, I think God is dealing with America.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And you talked about earlier about Americans being soft because they're willing to turn a blind eye to God's moral laws. I think we are going to have a turn, a political turn, and we are going to see the nastiness and the blood, the bloodlust of communism and Islam in this country before this country turns completely away from those two things. I think Christians are going to, be on the process, on the receiving end, and conservatives too, in general. I think we will be on the receiving end before this gets better. I and I do also think that God is going to turn this nation around, but I think it's going to be through hardship first, and then God is going to do his.
>> Tim Wildmon: And on that encouraging note, we shall take.
There are signs that people are turning away from WOKE
No, I mean, that's.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Hey, these people will be in charge at some point. These kinds of people will be in charge.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Let me push back a little bit.
>> Ed Vitagliano: you go right ahead, man.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I hear what you're saying, and that certainly would,
>> Tim Wildmon: I need some. Joel Osteen. It just brought me down.
>> Wesley Wildmon: If it, if it follows the way you just said. I. I wouldn't. I, I wouldn't be surprised. On the, on the other hand, that that stuff. That stuff, meaning that type of talking worked a lot better when we first started this about 20 years ago, before they got Oberger fell and other things like that. At this point, I don't. I'm not seeing as many people that actually will empathize or sympathize with her position that's not already on the far left. I don't. The moderate people are not walking. They're not persuaded by that type of stuff. And here's why. Because we've had. What is it, almost. Almost 20 years or half. 20 years of a burger fell.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. 20. 15. Yeah.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. So. And you're not looking around. And in fact, it's the other way around. They're. They're trying to force Jack Phillips to our. The, coach.
>> Steve Jordahl: 10 years.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. Do I start that again? So it's 10 years.
>> Steve Jordahl: 2015 is,
>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay, so it's been 10 years, going on 11 years. And you're not getting. In the last 10 years, you're not getting a swarm of Christians, doing anything remotely like she's saying. In fact, it's the other way around. The Christians are being persecuted in a lot of ways. I guess I'm saying the evidence is not there for her claims, so to speak. if that makes sense.
>> Tim Wildmon: I wish she would offer one example.
>> Wesley Wildmon: That's what I'm saying. There's not one. And she doesn't have any talking about.
>> Ed Vitagliano: These kind of people. Don't need examples here. Okay. listen, I appreciate that. And I think there are. There are signs that people are turning away from WOKE and those kind of things. But look at Virginia. I'm just to say, watch what happens in Virginia over the next four years with a new Democrat governor, Democrat control of that legislature. Day one, they flipped the table and started implementing all kinds of Democratic dream. same thing with Mandani and NewSong York City. So I'm Willing to say, let's wait and see once they get back in power in the Trump and post Trump era.
>> Wesley Wildmon: Because I don't think they're going to get back in power for a while.
>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, well, listen, I hope not, because these are bad people that we're talking about.
Ed: Bill Belichick being punished for being a friend of Donald Trump
Nurses. I'm looking at a NewSong York Post story right here. This other nurse said she was advocating that, nurses fill syringes with, poison paralytic meds. Now, she was already fired. She was fired. She's already fired. But I'm just saying, these people who believe like that, they are deranged.
>> Tim Wildmon: They're deranged. It's beyond Trump derangement syndrome. They're just spat out nuts.
>> Wesley Wildmon: I guess what I'm saying is there's just not enough evidence for the white evangelical Christians to be as bad as she says they are for her. Hyperbole, an impact on people's thinking.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I hope that's true. I also want to just point out here, Steve, that, I know the NFL is not all that important for a lot of people. Okay. But here's the kind of craziness we're dealing with. Bill Belichick.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: This story. Tell the story.
>> Steve Jordahl: Bill Belichick is not going to be, in the hall of Fame. His first, year of eligibility, he was informed that he did not meet the threshold to make the hall of Fame.
>> Tim Wildmon: He won how many Super Bowls? Five.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, eight.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Eight time super bowl winning head coach with the Giants.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, he was as an assistant coach with the Giants.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. as a head coach, though.
>> Steve Jordahl: 5.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. I'm looking at eight time Super bowl winning head coach. Okay. This from Patrick Mahomes. Okay. Chiefs quarterback. Okay. He says, insane. Don't even understand how this could be possible. Even NFL players are going, how is.
>> Tim Wildmon: Bill Bell M. That we don't know. He must have. Maybe he ticked off a lot of the voters.
>> Ed Vitagliano: He's a friend of Trump. That's what I think is political. I think he's a friend of Donald Trump. He made that clear year for years. And I think they're punishing him.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's. That would be the only explanation. So you're telling me a Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame should be based strictly on your.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Absolutely.
>> Tim Wildmon: And they would be holding this politics against him?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know what else it could be.
>> Tim Wildmon: We'll find out. Will you do some investigative reporting, Ed?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm going to. I'm going to delegate that to Steve.
>> Tim Wildmon: Steve, do some investigative.
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm on it.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. Our thanks to you all for listening to the show today. We appreciate it very much and we hope that you have a wonderful rest of your Wednesday. We'll see you back here m tomorrow.
