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>>  : welcome to today's issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. Here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for joining us here on AFR. And, ah, today is Thursday, July 2, 2026. There'll never be another one like it. Joining me in studios, Ed Battagliano.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's deep. There'll never be another day like this.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I was going to say. Yes, it will. you're welcome. You can use that. I was going to say. And to my left here is Ed Vitagliano. And guess what, folks? There'll never be another one like it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: No, there won't.

>> Tim Wildmon: all right. Good morning, Fred Jackson.

>> Fred Jackson: Good morning to you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Krish Woodward.

>> Chris Woodward: I'm glad to be a part of the golden age of today's issues.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The golden age with the golden guys

>> Chris Woodward: going to be a big, beautiful thing.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Not the golden girls, the golden guys.

>> Chris Woodward: I look like I retired many years ago.

>> Krish Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, thank you for joining us on today's issues. A lot to talk about. Dr. Frank Turek will be along in just a few minutes. And then Sandy Rios and her husband Bruce are on the mall in Washington, D.C. attending the, and experiencing the America's, State fair, I guess. I'm not sure that's the proper title for it, but, what's going on in D.C. all the states are represented on the mall with exhibits and so forth. And they got a big Ferris wheel there. I saw them.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I didn't know that we did that. We do that every. Is that just for this, one.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, there's something called the 250th celebration of America, which is a special situation.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. I didn't know this. The studio's filling up with wise guys. All right? So I, I didn't know whether we did that every July 4th in the nation's capital.

>> Tim Wildmon: The answer is no.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, good. Thank you.

>> Tim Wildmon: we, that we had. We're doing it for, you know, to commemorate 250 years. So Sandy and Bruce, they're walking around. They just sent me a picture. So she's going to be on and

>> Ed Vitagliano: she's going to talk about it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, she's going to talk about.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I want to know whether she's going up in the Ferris wheel.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, I still petition for talking to Sandy live on the Ferris wheel. I can see Richmond.

>> Tim Wildmon: so, I just asked, them, Sandy and Bruce, they sent me. They were going by the Mississippi tent.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: And I just text. Any catfish?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I was gonna say some fried catfish and hush puppies.

>> Tim Wildmon: You could probably become one of the more popular states there on that fair if you were offering some fried catfish with some slaw. I mean, good slaw.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Not. Not bland slaw. I'm talking about some good slaw. You make slaw, do you?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I do, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: What do you, what do you toss in there?

>> Ed Vitagliano: well, of course, lots of mayonnaise.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. that's a good start.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I use red wine vine to get some.

>> Tim Wildmon: I thought you don't drink alcohol.

>> Chris Woodward: in summertime, it cooks out.

>> Ed Vitagliano: This is not, it's, it's not hard. It's not hard. Vinegar.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. And it's cooking a, little bit

>> Ed Vitagliano: of horseradish and a little bit of. Just a little bit of mustard and of course, pepper. A lot of black pepper.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, right there.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

Fred says his wife makes his slaw and it's really good

>> Tim Wildmon: Fred, you make your slaw, do you?

>> Fred Jackson: My wife does.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: And it's really, really good.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is it similar to Ed's recipe?

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, well, she being a Mississippian, you know, she adds that touch to it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ye.

>> Amber Brown: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Now, I don't add sugar to mine. Some people will add sugar.

>> Tim Wildmon: I like a religious thing.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I like it tangy. No, I just like it tangy. I don't really like stuff sweet.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: If I'm gonna go for something sweet, I'm going for a big bowl of mint chocolate chip ice cream. I'm not adding a teaspoon of sugar to my coleslaw.

>> Chris Woodward: I do not.

>> Tim Wildmon: You don't do slaw? You don't make slaw?

>> Chris Woodward: I don't make much of anything. I do on occasion, you know, grill some hamburgers or steaks.

>> Ed Vitagliano: adventurous.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's not even in the sloth family.

>> Chris Woodward: You know, if my wife, if my wife's not going to be at home that night or maybe she's gone, for the weekend or whatever. I've had to tell my 12 year old that dad is capable of Preparing a hot meal.

>> Tim Wildmon: And it's called McDonald's.

>> Chris Woodward: I slept over a hot air fryer.

>> Ed Vitagliano: My kids to this day. Okay, I know Frank's adult kids. Frank's two adults. Turek's ready. Yes, Frank Turek. He's ready. But we're going to hold off in just a second. So I have two adult kids. My daughter is 40 something. My son is in his mid to late 30s. M. But I would. My wife was a stay at home mom. And every Saturday I would tell her, I said, Saturday's yours. I'll take care of the kids. But she usually went out for the morning, early morning and did shopping, go hobby, lobby, whatever. And she would generally bring something home. Fast food.

>> Fred Jackson: Ish.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And, so we started getting into this thing where she was staying later out and the kids, around noon were saying, daddy, we're hungry. I would always. I would tell them, I would say, I'm not going to make anything because mom will be home.

>> Tim Wildmon: Or cell phone.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, before cell phones. So I couldn't. I couldn't check.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So I would say, mom will be having. And I didn't, you know, don't want to feed them bologna sandwiches and then come back with, you know, chick fil A or McDonald's or whatever. And so she started saying to like two or three in the afternoon. And the kids, daddy, I'm starving. Mom will be home in just a little bit.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, she started taking advantage of you.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, she did. But my kids remind me of this still.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, so anyway, Sandy, be on with us. Sandy Rios at the bottom of the hour. Our good friend Dr. Frank Turek joins us now from. I guess he's home in North Carolina for the 4th.

Wasn't it today they actually approved the Declaration of Independence

Good morning, Frank.

>> Frank Turek: Wasn't it today they actually approved the Declaration of Independence? I thought it was July 2nd.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I think. I think. I think that's, No, it was signed, But now you. But. But the documents declared.

>> Frank Turek: The document later was signed in August. But I thought they initially approved it on July 2nd and then officially signed

>> Ed Vitagliano: it on the 4th. Or the document said the 4th.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: This is the blind leading the blind at this point.

>>  : That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, why would you even bring this up if you know I did. Nobody even knows Frank Turek did.

>> Frank Turek: Because I thought you guys would know this. This is.

>> Tim Wildmon: We do, but we don't. We're saving it to the end.

>> Frank Turek: Fred's on AI right now figuring it out.

>> Fred Jackson: What is it, Fred? Come on.

>> Tim Wildmon: What's the significance of July 2nd? Krish, do you know the answer?

>> Chris Woodward: To that it comes after July 1st.

>> Tim Wildmon: What? See why Krish is on here?

>> Frank Turek: This is why he gets the big money, this broadcast.

>> Chris Woodward: The classes are really paying off.

>> Amber Brown: Mom.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, here he, All right, so I looked it up. So now, this does not answer the first question that Frank asked about July 2. I think that's when Thomas Jefferson finished writing it. That this says. The Declaration of Independence was officially adopted by the Second Continental Congress on July 5th. Fourth. But it was signed by the delegates primarily on August 2nd.

>> Tim Wildmon: Gotcha.

>> Ed Vitagliano: But I. I think the July 2nd thing. There is something to that.

>> Tim Wildmon: So. Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: Second Continental Congress officially voted. Yeah, July 2nd.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. But they signed.

>> Chris Woodward: Oh, okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Signed it on the fourth.

>> Frank Turek: There you go.

>> Tim Wildmon: Thanks.

Tomorrow on American Family Radio, we're gonna have a patriotic special

>> Fred Jackson: All right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Do you know Frank? Do you know the first person to sign it?

>> Frank Turek: Well, Jon Hancock signed, first Jon Hancock. And he was the governor of Massachusetts. Taxachusetts, we call it now. And, yeah. And he put his signature so big that he said King George could read my name without his spectacle. I wanted to make sure that he knew I signed this thing.

>> Tim Wildmon: You talk about trolling.

>> Frank Turek: That's right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's trolling.

>> Tim Wildmon: 18th century style.

>> Frank Turek: People don't understand that when they signed that, they basically put a target on the back of their heads.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, they did.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Frank Turek: And a lot of them were hunted down. Some of them were murdered. Some of them were,

>> Ed Vitagliano: Some lost everything. They lost.

>> Frank Turek: Yeah. They lost their homes, their fortunes. Their sacred honor is what they kept.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: It was, quite an amazing. The story. And by the way, at the top of the hour. No. Excuse me. Tomorrow, when we typically have, the Trivia Friday show, we're gonna have a special, and all this is gonna be covered. And it's. It's a patriotic special. What's the name of it?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, it is, from our series, AFA at Home. This is episode nine, and the title is One Nation Under God. it is an episode, to help the audience, people who are listening. It's a video, but we're playing the audio. rediscover what motivated our founding fathers. It's hosted by Walker Wildmon. He's one of AFA's vice presidents. It features Stephen McDowell, founder and president of the Providence Foundation. Rick Greene, founder and president of Patriot Academy. Tim Barton, president of Wallnua Builders. So during this hour and a half, this 90 minutes, we normally have today's issues. On Friday, it would be Trivia Friday.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You will be listening to the audio of this program. however, you can also. For one week, beginning July 4th, you can stream the video free for one week.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: at stream.afa.net after that one week, you, you have, you can access it with a minimum monthly donation.

>> Tim Wildmon: But tomorrow on this radio show, to. Tomorrow on this radio show, we're going to have that special and you're going to love it. You're going to love it. It's David. Excuse, not David, but Tim Bart, Rick green and Steve McDowell and Walker. And it's, it's going to be, it's Barry. Ah, informational and very inspirational.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And those people will know the answers to questions that we sometimes fumble. You can also listen to that same, the audio of that same program, One Nation Under God. Saturday, that's on the Fourth of July at 6:00pm on American Family Radio. And Sunday, July 5th at 9:00pm okay,

>> Tim Wildmon: Frank, what's so great about America?

America is the first country in the world that grounded its rights in God

>> Frank Turek: well, everything. It's the first country in the history of the world that grounded its rights in God rather than a king. we don't have a king. We have rights granted to us by our Creator. We hold these rights, we hold these truths to be self evident that all men were created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights. Among these are life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. And governments are instituted among men to secure these rights. And that's if you, if so many people haven't even read the Declaration of Independence. But if you read the Declaration of Independence, it essentially says, here's why we are throwing off King George and his government from this land. and it goes through a long series of what the founders call abuses. And he basically points, or they basically point out how badly the rights, their own rights, were being violated by King George. And after this, of course, in 1787, so 1776, 1787, the Constitution was ratified. The Bill of Rights to the first 10amendments to the Constitution was ratified in 1778. The first amendment talks about five rights. Freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, freedom of petition, and freedom of, speech. What's speech? Yes, of course, those five rights, we have largely because of Christianity. And they are not rights unless God exists. Because there are no rights unless God exists. And in America we have those rights enshrined in our Constitution. There's no other government, to my knowledge, that has those rights enshrined completely like we have. And what other worldview is going to protect rights other than Christianity? Islam isn't. We know they're not going to protect freedom of religion or freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of the press, freedom of speech. They're not going to protect that. Are atheists going to protect it? Atheists have no grounds to protect any rights because there are no rights on atheism. Whoever has the most power wins. How about the Hindu or near or Far east world religions? No, there's a caste system over there. You got to be born in a certain way in order to have more rights than somebody else. The only worldview that is going to protect rights is the Christian worldview and our founders based, their form of government, ancient Israel. And if you look up, I know this probably this special that you just talked about, Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Frank Turek: It's going to have some of that in there, isn't it?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh yeah, it will.

>> Tim Wildmon: Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. You know what I was thinking about? King, George, probably, probably the dumbest monarch in the history of the world. You have 13 colonies.

>> Tim Wildmon: and you're expanding into this new world with the British Empire. And I mean all you got to do is keep it together. And these colonists which were subjects of the King, they would have been happily going along with what they've always lived under. And wealth would have been brought to England or would have been Great Britain by then. Great Britain. and instead this guy decides to tick off all these people who were themselves adventurous and industrious and in America and take them all off because he didn't want to give them any say in their lives because he wanted just to, you know, tax them. Tax them.

>> Frank Turek: Yeah, right.

>> Tim Wildmon: And how dumb. And which wed. Which led to the American Revolution, which led to the United States of America and independence and no more nothing for King George. Zero. Zilcha.

>> Frank Turek: You know, we had a private tour of the capitol a month or so ago with with Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House. And he told us this. He said, what is the average length of a constitution in the world? Like how long do constitutions last? What do you guys think his answer was? Any idea?

>> Ed Vitagliano: The average? Yeah, the average. Oh man.

>> Tim Wildmon: Under 100 years?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, I'd say under 100 years.

>> Frank Turek: He said, he said the average was 14 years.

>> Fred Jackson: Wow.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, wow.

>> Frank Turek: Well, we're not at 250 constitution, but 250 country.

>> Tim Wildmon: And you know, the things you just expressed a few minutes ago are so true and need to be stated over and over again. I know the political secular left in this country don't want to hear it. They want to act like we could have the United States of America and our way of life and the freedoms you've just expressed. Somehow absent the Christian religion. And it's just, it's impossible. And you made that comparison a few minutes ago to other, religions, and even non religions, like atheism, which communism springs. from which communism is complete totalitarian control. Let's look at, one fifth of the world's population. That is China.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: And then I don't know. I don't know how they operate necessarily in, In India. But it's, it's, It's a caste system. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It is a, it is a, democracy. But that's because they were under the control of the British.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. For so long, which had.

>> Ed Vitagliano: But they do have a caste system. Like a third of their population are considered untouchables.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Frank Turek: And here's it. What, kind of frost me about the secularists and the historical revisionists. They will say, and by the way, we just covered this on the I Don't have Enough Faith to Be An Atheist podcast on Tuesday with the great Bill Federer, and he's going to be on this Saturday on the American Family Radio Network version of the I Don't have Enough Faith Be an atheist podcast at 9am M. Central, right here on the American Family Radio Network.

All 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were deists

We're going to talk more about this, but, people will say, ah, you know, all Those founders, those 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence, they were all deists, Right?

>> Fred Jackson: Right.

>> Frank Turek: okay, here's what you need to do. When somebody says that. I want you to name five of those guys. Name. Name five people that signed the Declaration of Independence. I don't even know if we could do it right now, collectively, without looking it up. Can you name five people that signed the Declaration of Independence?

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, Jon Hancock, obviously. Thomas Nelson. Thomas Jefferson.

>> Chris Woodward: I know.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Benjamin Rush.

>> Tim Wildmon: I was going, but yeah, go ahead.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, go ahead.

>> Frank Turek: No, no, it's a joint effort. Let's do it.

>> Chris Woodward: Josiah Bartlett.

>> Tim Wildmon: I yield.

>> Ed Vitagliano: No, go ahead.

>> Tim Wildmon: I yield my time.

>> Chris Woodward: please.

>> Tim Wildmon: I yield my time to the Canadian.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Please.

>> Krish Woodward: Go ahead.

>> Frank Turek: Fred, who was one of the most influential, he came from Scotland and he taught many of the founders at Princeton.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm not gonna say anything because we hurt Tim's feelings. So I want Tim to please seriously continue.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm thinking Mel Gibson, but maybe I'm.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Maybe, you know, I should watch the Patriot this weekend.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Uh-huh.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who? Tell us. And then Fred. Fred wants, to participate in the show. Go ahead. No, no, no, I have a different answer.

>> Fred Jackson: That.

>> Tim Wildmon: And then Fred speaks. Go ahead.

>> Frank Turek: It's Reverend Jon Witherspoon.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: who.

>> Frank Turek: Who was brilliant and taught at Princeton and actually educated many of the people that either had something to do with the Declaration or the Constitution. But here's the thing you need to ask the secularists, okay? Name five people who signed the Declaration of Independence. They won't be able to do it, okay? They'll get Franklin, they'll get Jefferson, and then they'll draw a blank. And then what you need to say to them is, you don't even know who these people are. How do you know they're all deists?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right, right, right.

>> Frank Turek: How do you know that?

>> Tim Wildmon: You don't even know who they are. That's a tomahawk dunk on them right there.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's a tomahawk to the skull.

>> Frank Turek: In fact, you know Tim, Barton, who's on the video that you guys mentioned? his father David was. I saw David talking about this the other day. He was saying, you know, m. My son Tim goes to college campuses and he brings a gift card with him, and he says, I will give a gift card to anybody here who can name five people who signed the Declaration of Independence. They all get Jefferson, they all get Franklin, and then they all draw a blank. He said, tim has had that gift card for nine years.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Wow.

>> Frank Turek: Trying to give it away. And he goes to some of the top schools in the country. Right? And nobody can name. It's complete historical revisionists. You read the Declaration of Independence. It's not a deistic document. A deist is somebody who believes God created the universe and left it. The supreme Judge of the world is not somebody that leaves the universe. Divine providence is God interacting with people, unalienable rights. Is God granting rights to people because he cares about what goes on here? It's not deism. It's theism. And by the way, even deism is closer to theism than atheism. So even if they were right about that, that wouldn't. I mean, it's complete historical revisionism. If there was no Christianity, there would be no America.

>> Tim Wildmon: Fred, go ahead.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. Frank, you go to university campuses across this country. Everything you guys have been talking about, it's true. Why is it then that so many young people, and we're seeing this as late as just Tuesday this week, young people are supporting these Democrat socialists who want to basically wreck everything that America is about.

>> Frank Turek: That's for the same reason, Fred. They don't know history.

Frank Bruni says socialism violates human nature because it violates self interest

They don't know that socialism has never worked and can't work because it violates human nature. People don't people don't work to line other people's pockets, which is what socialism is essentially trying to get you to do. self interest is a good thing. And this is what Adam Smith talked about, in 1776, by the way, the wealth of Nations. That it's not from the benevolence of the butcher, the baker or the brewer that we get dinner on our table every night. It's from their self interest that they want to please us, so we can interact in a commercial way. So he. They get what they want and we get what we want and everybody's happy. You don't get that in socialism.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Frank Turek: Socialism is you're gonna work for me and not be able to enjoy the fruit of your labor. Sorry, not gonna do it. I mean, when was the last time anybody here washed a rental car?

>> Tim Wildmon: That's a great question.

>> Frank Turek: Don't wash a rental car because it's not yours. Okay. why is private housing always better than public housing? Because you own it, you're gonna take more care of it. Self interest is not a bad thing. It's a good thing because when everybody acts in their own self interest, they realize in order to get what they want, they have to please other people. And in order to do. That's how commerce happens. People need to please other people with what they make or what service they give.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And communist countries like the Soviet Union discovered that they had all kinds of, you know, the workers of the world unite. They had all kinds of workers who would shirk their duties. And the, people at the top, they all had their dachas, their villas, their vacation homes. They were living high off the hog while, members of the Soviet,

>> Ed Vitagliano: workers paradise had to wait 10 yards, 10 years to buy a car. Yeah, it just example after example.

>> Krish Woodward: Yeah.

>> Frank Turek: M. It just doesn't work. It's never worked. And it only. You can live in a commune, like if everyone agrees and, everybody agrees to work. But they don't last very long. I mean, Acts chapter five had nothing to do with government. It had to do with people deciding they were going to live together and pool their resources for a short period of time.

>> Chris Woodward: Thank you for saying that. I get so many things, or I've been encountered, with so many people that talked about how the early Christians were all socialists and we should be too, because it's in the Bible. It's in the book of Acts.

>> Frank Turek: Had nothing to do with the government. They were volunteering.

>> Tim Wildmon: What a communist Voluntary.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I do, I do want to make note of the fact that Krish did thank Frank for what he said, but he didn't thank you, Tim, for what you said.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. It's a season of forgiveness.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's a season of forgiveness. M. we're gonna keep. We're gonna keep Krish around.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Frank, thanks so much. Have a wonderful, July 4th celebration and we'll talk to you next week.

>> Frank Turek: Hey, don't tell me what to do. You're kind of. This is a free country. I don't want to have a good holiday.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. All right, Frank, listen, just enjoy your Kool Aid today or whatever, whatever you're gonna do there and telling me what to do. Okay, so there we go. Be back in a minute with Sandy Rios from the Washington National Mall.

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>> Tim Wildmon: Hello, everyone. Tim Wildmon, president of American Family association and American Family Radio. We are going to Italy in March of 2027. We're also going to Greece in March of 2027 and we're doing those tours back to back. If you want to do both of them in Italy, we'll be going to Venice at the gondola and see all the sights there. And we'll go to Pisa and walk on the leaning tower of if you fall off, we're not responsible. Also, we're going to Rome and see the Sistine Chapel and the Coliseum and all the catacombs. See all the sites of Rome and in Greece, it's the Footsteps of Paul trip. So the places where Paul went in the Bible mentioned in Greece. If you want information on any of these tours go to tours.aca.net tours.afa.net tours.afa.net for the wages of sin is,

>> Frank Turek: death, but the gift of God

>> Tim Wildmon: is eternal life in Christ Jesus Our Lord. Romans 6:23.

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Tomorrow is a day we look back and we celebrate America's founding

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR again. Reminding you tomorrow we're going to have, a patriotic special, about history. You're gonna love it. And it's, gonna be airing from 10 to 11:30, so Central Time. So during the Today's Issues hour, we normally have Trivia Friday. But tomorrow's not trivial, right? Okay. Tomorrow is a day we look back and we celebrate. We commemorate and we look and we say, keep it going. What a wonderful thing almighty God did.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: In birthing the United, States of America, which continues on, as they say. The experiment continues on, today. And so we, as believers in Christ continue to pray for our country and work and do all we can to preserve it, to save it, and to hope for our children and our grandchildren and our posterity that America's America will continue.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Amen.

>> Tim Wildmon: And it's not fundamentally changed like a lot of these secular lefties want to. Want to do.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

AFA and American Family Studios have produced a new video

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, well, did you want to say anything?

>> Ed Vitagliano: No, no, no, that's, that's fine. It will be from 10:05 to 11:30. It is the audio version of a new video that, AFA and American Family Studios has produced.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The title is One Nation Under God. It's going to be hosted by Walker Wildmon, and it's going to feature Steven McDowell, Rick Greene, Tim Bar, well known to our AFR listeners.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

Fred Jackson is anxious to hear how Sandy is doing

All right. so Fred's here. Fred Jackson. Even though he hadn't spoke much, we've had seven words the first half hour of the show. Krish Woodward, who's Crystal wound up over here ever since I started talking about food and sloth and, So, did you want to say anything, Fred, before we go to Sandy?

>> Fred Jackson: No, absolutely. I'm anxious. I'm anxious to hear how Sandy is doing.

Sandy and Bruce are experiencing the American State Fair on the Mall

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well, Sandy and Bruce, rather, they're on the mall in Washington D.C. and, they're experiencing the great, American, State Fair. State fair, I guess you could say. Sandy, you there?

>> Amber Brown: I'm here I'm here among the throngs. Can you hear me?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, we can hear you, but we won't keep you long. How hot is it on the Mall? Because I know the heat waves hitting the East Coast.

>> Amber Brown: actually, don't feel too sorry for me. I'm in the South Carolina Pavilion, sitting in a rocking chair. I can share by a fan, but it's. It is so hot.

>> Chris Woodward: That's America, the way God intended right there.

>> Amber Brown: Exactly. It's not 102. I'm thinking, like, straight up 102. Not beating. Yes. It's 303 tomorrow. Yeah, it's hot. It's not. Well, listen, what they do is this. Photos, you know, are shots and you don't see a lot of people. Everybody's in these pavilions. You know, every state has a pavilion and media have pavilions. And, so they're just not milling about because it's so hot.

>> Tim Wildmon: So South Carolina had a rocking chair. That's where you went.

>> Amber Brown: Exactly, exactly. We did go to the, to the Mississippi one. And that was fun, but it wasn't quite as roomy and it was noisy. Of course, they had to talk about Elvis Pressley, but they talked about how. I think they said Mississippi has more Grammys than any other state. You know, artists with Grammys.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, with Grammy awards.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. We have a Music hall of fame here because of that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of there. Well, on our. One of the things they say about Mississippi, they claim it's the birthplace of America's music. So there's a lot. There's a lot of history here. So what are y'.

>> Frank Turek: All.

>> Tim Wildmon: What are you gonna do? So y' all are going. Are you gonna try to hit all the 50 states as far as looking at them today, or you just sort of, looking around? You gonna ride that Ferris wheel? What are y' all gonna do today?

>> Amber Brown: You know what? I'm not gonna ride the Ferris wheel. Okay, here's my history. Where Ferris wheels. I love them. I love rides. The wilder the better. Except I don't like to go upside down.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Amber Brown: But, on Navy Pier in Chicago, they put a big, ah, Ferris wheel in a number of years ago, and I was so excited, but they, they. It's like that plexiglass around it. It's huge. And when you get in. And it goes very slowly. If you get in it, you just roast. It's like you're in another. So this one, this one has the same thing. And I know. Not going there. Not going to do that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And the worst.

>> Amber Brown: Have a carousel.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. What I was just going to say, in the words of George H.W. bush, not gonna do it. Not gonna do it. So, so. But you. You. But you and Bruce, y' all drove, from your home in Florida all the way up there to be there to experience this, because you. Because this is a special country's history and it's being celebrated on the mall, and you guys wanted to experience that even. Even through the heat, right?

>> Amber Brown: Yes. And also I was invited to do my podcast here. So I. It's gonna. I'm gonna do that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Amber Brown: Tomorrow, if I can ever find the true social tent. Trying to find it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Now. Are you gonna go? Ah, you grew up in Illinois. You gonna go to the Illinois tent?

>> Amber Brown: We will. Okay.

Sandy says Illinois has a lot of great people

Yeah, we're gonna. I mean, I'm sure we'll visit all of them. Okay, well, take it easy because it is very nice.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. You don't want to, you want to pass out out there, fall in the reflecting pool.

>> Ed Vitagliano: My, My understanding get arrested The. In the Illinois. Sandy, My understanding is in the Illinois tent, you can, you can go through a, A, ah, carjacking. Don't they have like.

>> Tim Wildmon: That is so wrong,

>> Amber Brown: you know, or a. Yeah, terrible.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: Our listeners in state.

>> Tim Wildmon: Love, love Florida, Illinois. Than Chicago, the downtown, the south side, you can go. You can get carjacked in Rockford. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, please. I'm just kidding, folks.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Illinois has, a lot of great people. Yes, absolutely.

>> Chris Woodward: My mom grew up in Illinois.

>>  : Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So there you go.

Tim: Sandy, encourage folks to check out your podcast

So anyway, well, we encourage folks to check out Sandy's podcast. So you're doing. Are you going to do the podcast, about what's going on in D.C. or just what are you going to do the podcast about? Yes, okay.

>> Amber Brown: About this event and whatever else. I'll probably be collecting guests. I have a couple of guests already. I'm trying to get Tina Peters because Tina is somewhere around here. So we have. Anyway, I think she might come. That's if she can make it. And I've got, Jen from, Reborn. He's going to be here.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Amber Brown: otherwise, I kind of. What I do really is just interview people from around the country.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amen.

>> Amber Brown: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wonderful. Well, listen, we will let you go and let you get back to your rock. Well, stay. Stay out of the. Don't pass out on us there. And we, get the news report on Fox News. A lady has passed out on the mall in Washington.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah,

>> Amber Brown: she's the one with red, white and blue on.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, well, listen, tell Bruce hello, thank you, for joining us. Sandy, give us, give us a report from, where it's happening and we. Y' all be safe. We'll talk to you later.

>> Amber Brown: Okay, thank you, Tim. Thank you guys.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, bye bye.

>> Amber Brown: Bye.

This is a serious heat wave hitting what, a third of the country

>> Tim Wildmon: Sandy Rio. Sandy Rios. Sandy's podcast is extremely popular with our listeners. Of course, Sandy was on the radio with us for 10 years in the morning and she switched over to doing two times a week podcasting. So go to our AFR, uh.net website, afr.net website. You can click on there to get her podcast again twice a week. Sandy Rios, 24 7. so check that out. Sandy Rios, 24 7. You're listening to the radio program Today's Issues on American Family Radio. Tim, Ed, Krish and Fred, just real quickly, 102. She said, yeah, that's not good. And she said straight up. I mean, that doesn't include the heat index.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: So you've got a report about the. This is a serious heat wave hitting what, a third of the country?

>> Chris Woodward: Yes. we're looking at record temperatures in many parts of the country, going into the July 4th period.

>> Tim Wildmon: Record for this day.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes. in terms of heat plus the heat index, we've been over 100 here. When you factor in the heat index for a couple of days, today's not going to be much better. The unfortunate thing in a couple of parts of the country is we may actually get some rain showers. So it could be, that rain might impact, fireworks and other plants in, various parts.

>> Tim Wildmon: Krish.

>> Fred Jackson: Uh-huh.

>> Chris Woodward: That's what I'm here for. Back to you.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Thank you.

>> Fred Jackson: Well, and what we have to remember too, a lot of folks in the north and Ed would attest to this, they don't have air conditioning. I mean we, Our air conditioning runs 24 hours.

>> Tim Wildmon: Choices. Go ahead.

>> Fred Jackson: Can you imagine, especially seniors, which is why they have, they have to set up cooling centers.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.

>> Fred Jackson: They encourage people to go to malls where they have this.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: I cannot imagine. In NewSong York City this morning at 5:30, it was hotter in NewSong York City than it was in Florida. Already. So you got overnight temperatures of 80.

>> Tim Wildmon: It is dangerous. We're laughing about it, but it is dangerous.

>>  : It is.

>> Tim Wildmon: Especially for, as you're saying, elderly people who don't have access to air conditioning and stuff. Just as in the winter. You need to check on those folks.

>> Chris Woodward: That was actually a situation here in our area a couple of days ago where two people, what Was described in the news as an elderly couple. They were out in their gardens. One of them fell, the other was trying to assist. And they both sat out there for so long that they, were in their 80s. Yes. one of them passed away, unfortunately, from heat exhaustion. And the other person had some, major health issues as they were out in their garden. They were out in their garden?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, they were out in the garden in one big yard.

>> Chris Woodward: Nobody realized they were.

>> Tim Wildmon: They were in the 80s. I think the lady tripped maybe and fell and their husband went to help her and something happened with him and it was. Nobody was there to help them. And they died. Oh, yeah, it was very tragic. It was. It was in the news. Yes. but the heat index. You're right. Is going to be. And you're right, Fred. The folks in. Especially in NewSong England and yeah, I'm sure it's very hot in Nova Scotia, too, for what you're used to.

>> Fred Jackson: I don't know where the transition took place you mentioned, because I checked Nova Scotia this morning. It's normal overnight lows of 50s and low 70s during the day.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, there is. There is a line.

>> Fred Jackson: There is a line.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: so, it's a good time of the year to go that far north. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. But Anyway, so 102. That's Sandy's. That's, that's.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's a lot of concrete. And you know this. You have the asphalt. Yeah, asphalt. The reflection of the heat, too. And so I'm glad at least these tents go someplace to cool off.

>> Chris Woodward: I've been to Washington this time of year, and I remember when I was a kid, my. My parents took us to, Washington, D.C. and we were touring Mount Vernon and it was, I mean, burning hot outside. And they did it with no air conditioning. back then. We're spoiled for sure.

It's futile to complain about heat in Mississippi, right? Right

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, once I've told this joke before, but the older you get, the more you tell jokes over and over, over and over and expect people to pretend like they haven't heard them before.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And some of us old people don't remember you telling it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. That's right. But this was. This wasn't necessarily a joke, but it was just an interaction. So Alice and my wife, you know, this is a few years ago, she said, so summertime. Since summertime. Mississippi, really. It's futile to complain about heat.

>> Chris Woodward: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Because you might as well not live here.

>> Tim Wildmon: Then don't live here.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. And move somewhere else if you don't. If you're not gonna be able to if you're gonna whine every day. Okay, so it doesn't matter how hot.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'll remind you of that when it turns cold, by the way.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, yeah, I hate I will whine about soul weather. but so she said, So, we need to do some yard work this afternoon. I need you to help me. Tell me that in the morning. I said, okay, well, what are we talking about here? Because it's very hot out there, you know. She said, pine straw, pick up branches. I said, okay. I said, you know, there's like a heat advisory, right? I mean, I'm talking about. This is. We're talking danger, dangerous stuff that doctors would say stay out of.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Heat and stay liquid, stay hydrated. Well, so, okay, well, so we're not going to do yard work. you don't want to do that. What are you going to do this afternoon? I said, well, Larry and I were thinking about going golf.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, sounds reasonable in the corner of your mind where that sounds reasonable.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, let's see. When it's life threatening heat, we still do what we want to do, don't we?

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right.

>> Krish Woodward: That's right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It may be life threatening, but it's not stealing my joy

>> Tim Wildmon: anyway.

Alberta is considering seceding from Canada, and there's a test vote

All right, Krish, Fred, you've been unusually. Did you want to say anything, before Krish goes to some of our other news stories here?

>> Fred Jackson: Well, just to say that, I've lived here in the United States almost 30 years and all the things that are said about the United States, I'm talking the attributes, the opportunities here. I remember we used to visit the States when I was a kid. We'd go down to NewSong England for vacation, that sort of thing. It always impressed me how busy it was. The, economic, impact of the United States. by the way, back, oh, I suppose 60, 70 years ago, we had a lot of relatives. We talked about the Cajuns yesterday, the Acadians visiting. I had a bunch of relatives that moved down in my grandfather's era down to the United States and they never came back. I've got all kinds of relatives from whence you come from.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, all right. Down in NewSong England.

>> Fred Jackson: Down in NewSong England?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, down south. South of the border.

>> Fred Jackson: They came down. They settled in NewSong York and NewSong Jersey and parts of Massachusetts. and, I remember visiting one relative one time. His name was Walter Jefferson. He married an Italian lady.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Ah, smart man.

>> Fred Jackson: They had about nine kids living there. And, I tell you what, my dad fell in love with the United States. He never moved. But it was interesting. I ended up marrying a Southerner.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right.

>> Fred Jackson: And ending up here's a city girl, Mississippi girl.

>> Tim Wildmon: Y' all both did.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And that's how you ended up here.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right.

>> Fred Jackson: Coming down here. So, hey, listen, I am so thankful for the United States. I regret the tension that's going on right now between the United States and Canada. But, I'm hoping. I'm hoping for a change. I'm hoping what's going on in Alberta right now will lead to a change, here in the rest of Canada. Yeah, Alberta is thinking about leaving Canada.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: They're actually going to be a serious.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's a serious thing.

>> Fred Jackson: There's a test vote.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: On that, to secede from Canada because Canada's gone lefty socialist. Don't mean any ways.

>> Fred Jackson: You got to understand. Alberta is the Texas Canada.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: All right.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's the red state. Big red state.

>> Fred Jackson: It's the red state. Very much so. Rich in petroleum, etc. Etc. And they're kind of fed up with carrying the rest of Canada.

>>  : Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: You know, so there's that. That spirit that I see. So that's amplified here.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: Alive and well in Alberta.

>> Tim Wildmon: Gotcha.

>> Fred Jackson: And I'm anxious to see when is that test vote?

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's, gonna be interesting.

>> Fred Jackson: There. There is a test vote. It's either this fall or early next year. Okay.

>> Chris Woodward: I have a name for Alberta. If it's. It leaves and becomes a state.

>> Tim Wildmon: A state, you mean? Or its own coffee.

>> Chris Woodward: If it becomes. Let's. Let's say it goes its own. It's its own way, and then eventually becomes part of the US we can call it Further North Dakota.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Further North Dakota I like. Well, by the way, is it. Is it legal in Canada's form of government for a. A province to secede?

>> Fred Jackson: Legal? well, I'm not sure if, anybody. Nobody's tried it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Okay. So, but if Quebec has threatened it.

>> Fred Jackson: Quebec has threatened it before, but they were paid off, basically.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah. They got. They.

They got a lot of concessions. From Prime Minister Trudeau at the time

They got a lot of concessions.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: From Prime Minister Trudeau at the time.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's the older Trudeau here.

>> Fred Jackson: Okay. so that's. That's what this is about. I mean, there are some people in Alberta say, okay, what happens to my Canada pension and all that sort of thing? Problem with Alberta, this. It's landlocked.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: It doesn't have a coast.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: so you would still have to go. If you're going east, west, through the

>> Tim Wildmon: rest, straight up Hormuz.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, so there's, there are all kinds of things, but I think they may get some concessions out of it, regardless of what happens.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is that Edmonton, is that what we're talking about?

>> Fred Jackson: Edmonton is the capital of Alberta. Yes. Calgary is kind of the petroleum head.

>> Tim Wildmon: Gotcha.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

Fred: Will Cain interviewed Ashik Sadiq on Fox News yesterday

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Tim, Ed, Fred. And we thank you for listening to today's issues and to American Family Radio. Go ahead, Krish.

>> Chris Woodward: One of the great things about this program and other shows on American Family Radio is we not just tell, we don't just tell you what people say. We play sound bites.

>> Tim Wildmon: We do.

>> Chris Woodward: And yesterday on his Fox News program, Will Cain had the co chair of the Democratic Socialists of America on his program to share his side and why he believes what he believes. Here is Ashik, Sadiq's answer to questions like are you in favor of open borders? Clip 4.

>> Steve Jordahl: You believe in the concept of borders, nation states having a border?

>> Krish Woodward: We believe that right now what we have is open borders for capitalists, for CEOs. We have people who run major companies that have hauled out cities all over the country, taking jobs out of communities, outsourcing jobs, pushing trade deals that are bad for workers. So we would not have open borders tomorrow. But we want a world in which all working people are taken care of. Every basic necessity so that we don't need a militarized border. ICE was only created in 2023. I think the border.

>> Steve Jordahl: I hear you clearly and this is the goal of my conversation with you. I want to understand. So ultimately, yes, yes, I do hear a nation without borders. I don't think I'm mischaracterizing what you said. What about property transfers? We've heard that both from Mamdani, we've heard that from Claire Valdez in NewSong York. and I'll just pair that with seizing the means of production. So forcible removal of private property rights and a transfer.

>> Krish Woodward: I think what we want to do is have democratic decisions about how resources are distributed in our country. So the health care.

>> Steve Jordahl: So if a majority votes to take something away from an individual, then that would be a democratic transfer of property.

>> Krish Woodward: I think we would look at something like how taxes work today. Right now, Elon Musk has just become the world's first trillionaire. In America's own history in, the 1950s when Dwight Diaz Eisenhower was president, there was a top marginal tax rate of 90%. So anybody making over let's say a million dollars, 90% of that would go back to fun. Public service is for everyone.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who is that?

>> Chris Woodward: That was the co chair of Democratic Socialists of America.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, I'm glad Will Cain did that. What you just heard, folks, was a interview on Fox News yesterday by Will Cain. Right. And he's former actor and television news host now, and he was, Freddie was interviewing. Who was this fella?

>> Chris Woodward: Ashik Sadiq. He's the head of the, chair

>> Ed Vitagliano: of the Democratic Socialists of America.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So. But the point of the interview was to hear it from his mouth.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: What these Democrat socialists believe and want.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Fred, he was still, the guy, although he had the microphone to do it, he still tried to finesse his words when talking about, a border. And he didn't reject Will Cain's description of his beliefs that he doesn't believe in nation state borders. Yeah. Did you get what you got?

>> Fred Jackson: When Will Cain said, I want to interpret what you're saying correctly. You're for open borders.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: The guy did not dispute that.

>> Tim Wildmon: He did not dispute that.

>> Fred Jackson: He did not dispute that.

Democratic Socialists of America talk about seizing private property in name of affordability

On the transfer of property. You have to look at what Mamdani has talked about already.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. What is that? go ahead. This is a good lesson for us because I think people need to understand that these socialists, these Democrat socialists, they're serious.

>> Fred Jackson: Oh, very.

>> Tim Wildmon: They're serious about seizing private property in the name of equity for everybody, Right?

>> Fred Jackson: That's right. Mamdani has talked about this. We're going to take over housing, apartment buildings, the city is going to own it. And that way, and they coach it, saying, okay, that'll make it affordable rent for people.

>> Tim Wildmon: I want to know what. They do this in the name of what. So it appeals to a lot of people. What do they do it in the name of?

>> Fred Jackson: well, you're hearing affordability a whole lot.

>>  : Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: This is their definition of affordability. We're going to make housing affordable. We're going to take that guy's house or that guy's apartment building that he owns. We're just going to go take it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Or one other thing. or we're going to set rent control prices.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Which in essence is taking it. But it's not a, ah, physical taking of the building. Go ahead.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I want to m. I want people to understand we're running out of time here. But, this, this clip went on for a while because he was asked how he would do this. Okay, so the thing that's so deceptive about this is that this Ashik Sadiq, these Democratic Socialists of America, they weren't talking about the government just seizing it. He later went on to say, we're going to take it through taxation. He went on to say that, Elon Musk is the world's first trillionaire.

>> Tim Wildmon: We just heard that.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: But did it. Did he say the 90?

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, he did.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I was looking up his name and I missed that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So, that's what's so deceptive. He said, we used to take 90% of, of income for rich people.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And it makes it sound like it's going to do it through the democratic process. So nobody's going to get just taken like by communists.

>> Chris Woodward: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And people need to be aware. This property they're going to seize, they're not going to just send in the stormtroopers. They're going to tax you so that you can't keep it anymore.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And then the government takes it.

>> Tim Wildmon: And this guy said a million dollars, did he not?

>> Chris Woodward: Well, he was talking about, the policies from back in the Eisenhower era.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. If you were a millionaire, you had. You reached 90%. 90% taxation that was to help 90%

>> Tim Wildmon: of World War II. Taking 90% of anybody's income, I don't care if they're Elon Musk or not, it's theft. Yeah, that's absolutely.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, what's going to happen is you kill the economy.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Because who's going to work hard if somebody's going to take. If the government is going to take 90% of what you earn?

>> Fred Jackson: And these people like him, they become the lords.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Fred Jackson: They become the leaders.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. They dictate to everybody.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, this is, ah. Well, these people, their numbers are growing, folks.

>> Chris Woodward: We didn't defeat an empire for this nonsense.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Frank Turek: All right.

>> Tim Wildmon: We'll be back momentarily with more of today's issue. Stay with us. M. The views and opinions expressed in

>> Amber Brown: this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those

>> Tim Wildmon: of the American Family association or American Family Radio.

Tim, Ed and Fred talk with Chris on top news headlines of the day. Also, Dr. Frank Turek and Sandy Rios joins the program to discuss celebrating America 250.