Today's Issues continues on AFR with Steve Paisley Jordal

Ed Vitagliano Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

Tim Wildmon Welcome back to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to afr, Tim, Ed and Fred. And now, Steve Paisley Jordal joined us. Good morning, Steve.

Steve Jordahl Hey, everybody.

Tim Wildmon The, it's 71 here in the studios.

Steve Jordahl Yeah.

Tim Wildmon as we brace ourselves for 72.

Steve Jordahl Yeah.

Tim Wildmon Coming up sometime in the next hour,

Ed Vitagliano poor Cole Greene, who's our video guy.

Tim Wildmon I like the way Cole Greene. I like cold. I like the way you did. Oh, you. C, O, L E. Yes.

Ed Vitagliano C O, H, L, I think.

Tim Wildmon Oh, my bad.

Ed Vitagliano Yeah.

Tim Wildmon Ah, I mean, the cyber criminal that works in there with the hoodie on.

Steve Jordahl Yeah.

Ed Vitagliano He's got a, he's got a full on sweatshirt with a hood because the, the, one of the vents drops right on top of his head. So it doesn't matter how hot out it is outside.

Tim Wildmon Right.

Ed Vitagliano Cole's gonna have the.

Steve Jordahl My wife is cold. Ah, she likes cold, air. And so, I've lost a bunch of weight in the last couple years and now I have no body fat left and I am freezing in my own house most of the time. But it's her house and her. So you know what she needs, she gets.

Tim Wildmon I can handle heat, no problem. Except for when it's time to sleep.

Ed Vitagliano Oh, yeah, yeah.

Tim Wildmon that's when it's, you know, you can't. You gotta have ac.

Ed Vitagliano Well, when I was growing up in NewSong England, we didn't have central heat. Well, we had central heat of central air. In fact, we didn't have an air conditioning in our house until I was in high school and my dad bought a couple of window units. But I can remember tossing and turning because it was just so.

Tim Wildmon Yeah, yeah.

Steve Jordahl California and Colorado, we never had air

Ed Vitagliano conditioning or hair conditioning or hair.

Steve Jordahl Yeah, I did have air conditioning.

Tim Wildmon I don't know why people around the country make fun of southerners. We have air conditioning.

Ed Vitagliano Yeah.

Steve Jordahl Oh, you need it down here?

Tim Wildmon You guys tell me. We didn't know what it was, you know, going like. Well, all right then.

Ed Vitagliano Well, it might have been the whole no indoor plumbing thing for a long time.

Tim Wildmon Oh, that would do it. That is a low blow right there. Bringing the indoor plumbing as if that's necessary. Okay, I'm just, I'm just gonna say. Oh, you threw it back at me.

Ed Vitagliano I'm just gonna say it is good to live in a first world country.

Tim Wildmon Right.

Ed Vitagliano You know, it's. Ah, I understand first world problems. I Gotta remind myself. But.

Tim Wildmon Amen.

Ed Vitagliano The solution to the world's problems is not to make first world countries into third world countries. It's to make third world countries into first world countries.

Steve Jordahl Everybody.

Ed Vitagliano That's what I want to say.

Tim Wildmon It is good to visit a third world country.

Steve Jordahl Y.

Ed Vitagliano To make you appreciate or live what you have. That's right.

Tim Wildmon Stay Beau. Lived in one.

Steve Jordahl I did.

Tim Wildmon For how many years?

Steve Jordahl For five years. Four years. Well, if you count France, five years.

Tim Wildmon Madagascar.

Steve Jordahl Madagascar. Yeah.

Tim Wildmon Yeah. Was that. Is that considered a third world?

Steve Jordahl It is Very poor. a lot of. In. In the town I lived in, we lived in the capital and it was a larger city and so we had a nice apartment, all the amenities of life, indoor plumbing and all that kind of stuff. But, throughout most of the country, it's, it's tribal.

Tim Wildmon You know, it just seems elementary that you look around for.

Steve: There are places around the world that will never break out of poverty

Look around the world and I don't know if you've guys ever seen the map at night of, North Korea? South Korea.

Ed Vitagliano Yeah.

Tim Wildmon Oh, yeah.

Ed Vitagliano Yes.

Tim Wildmon The dividing line between communism and capitalism.

Ed Vitagliano Yep.

Tim Wildmon Look up South Korea at night from space and you see the, the line is clear, because on the south side of Korea is, a bunch of lights. And north side of Korea, there's just a little bit of light around the capital of North Korea. Why? Because. Why? Because, communism doesn't work, economically or otherwise. And capitalism and free enterprise do work.

Steve Jordahl Socialism too. Socialism lumped in with communism do not work.

Tim Wildmon Right, right. So, Right. So I'm, just saying that totalitarian, now China has, you know, China's a communist country too, but China, hybrid kind of. They have. I think they realized that they had to do something 50 years ago, 40 years ago to take advantage of economic prosperity in the world. They could make stuff and sell stuff and sustain, but they still have an economic. They still have a totalitarian communistic. So it's, it's it's a bit of a hybrid.

Ed Vitagliano Yeah, yeah, I think so.

Tim Wildmon They, they allow some free enterprise, but they control the state.

Speaker D Right.

Ed Vitagliano State planning.

Tim Wildmon but what I was going to say was if you look around the world, there are places that, because of their government and because of, their history will never break out of poverty. a hundred years from now, guess what? Somebody's going to be sitting here at a church raising money for a mission trip to Africa to help people who are living in poverty. Or Central America or Haiti or Haiti.

Steve Jordahl I was going to say Haiti.

Tim Wildmon We're going to be, you know, wanting to raise Money to help the poor people in poverty in those parts of the world. That goes on and on and on and on. Why? Even though they have natural resources, a lot of them is because, their socialism, they're turning over one dictator after another or one leader after another. And the corruptness, corruptness is a big deal around the world. Most of the world operates off bribery. Now in America, yeah, we have bribery, but most of the time if you're a government official and you're caught in bribery, you go to jail. There are penalties to that, but I'm just saying that is the way of the world. so until that changes, those places, like many parts of Africa or Central America or Asia, are going to remain in poverty, sad to say, even though they have immense natural resources. Go ahead. The value of education too, I should say. We value education in the West.

Tim Wildmon And now they do too in the east, in many parts. And that's a key factor in being able to elevate your way of life out of poverty into the modern world, I should say. Go ahead, Steve.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell may have suffered a heart attack last month

Steve Jordahl Well, you know who else is very thankful to be living in a first world country is our Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. We're finding out now that on June 14th a 911 call was placed from his and an ambulance arrived to find him unconscious. He may have suffered a heart attack at his D.C. residence. He was rushed to the local hospital last month where they revived him. And I don't know if he's back at work but 84 years old. This is Mitch McConnell. You may have remembered a couple times that he's kind of frozen up in front of a microphone, just kind of lost presence, just kind of. And he's not been well, he's not running again. He will end his career in the sen. It come November, January I guess, when his term's up. Close call FOR Mitch McConnell, Senate

Tim Wildmon Majority Leader for many years from the state of Kentucky.

Authorities arrested William Milliken outside of Wesley Memorial Church in North Carolina

Next story.

Steve Jordahl I want to congratulate law enforcement. I have. There are two mass casualty events that they have prevented in the last week. I take you to High Point, North Carolina where authorities arrested 44 year old William Milliken. They arrested him outside of Wesley Memorial Church on a Sunday morning, June 28 after a 911 call reported an armed man in camouflage sitting in a truck. And one of the off duty police officers at the church went and confronted him. They found two flamethrowers, two crossbows, 500 rounds of ammunition, a CO2 powered launcher made to resemble a handgun, knives, duct tape, oxycodone, pills, body armor. He was taken into custody and they prevented. He had a list, with him, of addresses of churches, schools, and other public buildings.

Ed Vitagliano Now, and it was.

Steve Jordahl Neither one of these had been widely reported at all, in the media.

Ed Vitagliano Is that the,

Steve Jordahl No.

Ed Vitagliano Okay. Not the one we were talking about. No.

Steve Jordahl That's the second one I was going to bring up.

Ed Vitagliano So this was just a guy who, Any idea, what his motive was?

Steve Jordahl No, I, haven't read that. all I know is that he had a list of other churches, so I, I, we can guess that it was, that he was not a fan of the church or Christianity.

Ed Vitagliano Yeah, a lot of, a lot of our listeners probably have caught on to where the left is going to in this country because they do hear stories like that on American Family Radio and, on our website, American family news, afn.net but there's a lot of people in this country who don't know that there is this undercurrent of violence, hostility, even hatred towards Christianity. And, good on the, local law enforcement that uncovered this.

Steve Jordahl Absolutely.

A transgender man was arrested in Las Vegas on Saturday with 22 firearms

And then the second one I wanted to talk about in Las Vegas, a transgender, man named Allison Howlett.

Tim Wildmon When you say transgendered man, he was

Steve Jordahl a man who's pretended to be a woman.

Ed Vitagliano Transgender woman.

Steve Jordahl Well, no, I don't use those. He was a man.

Ed Vitagliano Well, he's not a transgender man. He's a man man.

Tim Wildmon He has male body parts.

Steve Jordahl Right, Right.

Tim Wildmon He says, I'm a girl.

Steve Jordahl Right. sorry, I don't know how to say that.

Tim Wildmon That's why I'm asking. I wanted to make it clear as mud for our listeners.

Steve Jordahl Allison is the guy, what he calls himself, anyway, his quote unquote spouse called the police to say that he had stolen her car and taken off. And they found him, in front of a, on the Las Vegas strip. he had 22, more than 22 firearms, rifles and handguns. He had firearms equipment and suppressor, hundreds of rounds of ammunition. I want to play for you. This is interesting. He was reported, by several outlets as being transgender. There's a guy that wanted to be a dude, a woman. but Fox 5 in Las Vegas reported on this, and I want you to hear their reporter, how she goes to, let's say extremes to avoid mentioning a gender in this. This is cut 14.

Speaker E This is Sophia Brunsma from Fox 5. Vegas Metro Police are saying that there was a possible terrorist attack that could have been avoided. That could have taken place this weekend on Saturday at Sunset Station in Henderson near the casino. And this all started when they say that Henderson police received a call from the suspect, Allison Howland's partner, or ex partner, saying that the suspect, Allison, had stolen her vehicle and that there were firearms inside. So police started investigating. They tracked the car down to the parking garage at Sunset Station. Inside the vehicle, they found 22 firearms with hundreds of rounds of ammunition. They say Allison refused officers orders, but they were successful in, detaining the suspect. They say that the suspect was sitting on a firearm and also had another firearm, a fully loaded silenced machine gun in the back seat while the suspect was blaring loud music. They had to tase the suspect once before putting them into custody.

Steve Jordahl How many times do they use the

Ed Vitagliano suspect and before putting them into custody and,

Tim Wildmon Them.

Steve Jordahl Yeah,

Ed Vitagliano because if you don't want to say him, then you say them.

Steve Jordahl Yeah.

Ed Vitagliano They. Them is the. Yeah, established pronoun. If you don't want to.

Tim Wildmon Okay, ridiculous.

Ed Vitagliano You meant. You mentioned something this morning, Tim. Also, our listeners were alert to this, that the, the lady who's doing this news report called the. The suspect by the first name, Alice Alison. Alison. That. That hardly ever happens. It's either you use the gender pronoun or you refer to the last name. And. But this, this woman, she was a young reporter.

Steve Jordahl She may have been new not knowing that. Also, the quote, unquote spouse was named Julie Howlett. They use the same last name. So maybe they were trying to avoid confusion there. I don't know. But you're right. It is not a practice that we in journalism use.

Stephen A. Smith takes issue with Lakers saying they have too many white players

Tim Wildmon Next story.

Steve Jordahl All right, I want to play you, what I think is some of the most racist comments I've ever heard coming out of a professional, commentator. Steven Naes Smith is a basketball commentator.

Tim Wildmon And, he's more than that. He's a. He's a pop culture and political commentator. He. I mean, he's pretty well known, even if people don't know they've heard him before. Steven A. Smith, I mean, he.

Ed Vitagliano He's been. He's been encouraged to run for president.

Tim Wildmon Yeah, he's. Yeah, he. But anyway, I just wanted to. He is a basketball commentator, but he's also a commentator on a lot of things.

Steve Jordahl Very popular voice, influencer, let's say. Anyway, he is, taking issue with the Los Angeles Lakers. Lakers saying they have too many white players. Listen to this. Cut 17.

Speaker D Where the Los Angeles Lakers think they

Ed Vitagliano going With a bunch of white dudes.

Speaker D Your three top players are white dudes? Really? This ain't golf. This ain't baseball. It ain't even soccer. What y' all think this is? Basketball? In NBA history, when have you seen your three most prominent players on a basketball team all be white? And that takes you to the promised land. Somebody got to say it. So I'm saying it. This is basketball. I'm not complaining. I'm simply making the point. The Los Angeles Lakers. You ain't going anywhere being led by three white dudes. In today's generation of basketball, I'm letting you know right now, it ain't happening. And Luke is a bad brother, and Austin Reeves is no scrub. And they both have earned what they have earned. And then with LeBron James or some other brothers, I get. But those two. And Walker, Kessler, you ain't scaring anybody with that. And Rob Pelinka has done made this white dude Central. No wonder LeBron James walked out the door.

Speaker E Well,

Tim Wildmon I don't know. That was crazy right there. he. He just.

Ed Vitagliano There's.

Tim Wildmon There's. Imagine a white commentator saying, you think this basket, you think this baseball team is going to make it? Being led by black people?

Ed Vitagliano Yeah.

Tim Wildmon Are you kidding me? What's wrong with you? Can you imagine, that person be run out of the country?

Ed Vitagliano Well, listen, you'd also be run out of the country if you said that. The reason Steven A. Smith can say that is because black people are better athletes than white people. You can't even say that because then people say, well, why are you saying that? And then you get into all these. All the talk about, you know, muscles and genetics and all that kind of stuff, and then you're a racist for saying that. I don't know why. The same rules don't apply to everyone across the board. When we. When you talk about race.

Steve Jordahl Yeah.

Tim Wildmon I think that was. That was. He says some stuff. I agree with Steven A. Smith. That was stupid, because let me tell you something. There is coming into the National Basketball association, the NBA, which I don't pay close attention to. I do watch it when it's the getting the finals or the deep into the playoffs. I do get interested in that then because I'm a basketball fan of the game, but pay more attention to the collegiate level. But there's coming into the, NBA, a wave of European players, and they are white and they're very good. Okay? So, I don't think. If you're going to say that athleticism has something to do with your genetic predispose. I don't know if it's predisposition, makeup. Well, Jimmy the Great got fired for that. Right? Because he said. What did he say?

Ed Vitagliano African Americans, hamstrings are longer high twitch muscles or something?

Tim Wildmon I mean, it's just, well, I mean, you know, you look at, athletics in America, it's a combination, well, athletics around the world for those who are at the top levels. It's a combination of body and mind and eye. Baseball, it's very skilled, hand coordination. That is extraordinary. Having nothing to do with your skin color, really. Skin color itself would have nothing to do with anything. How would the color of somebody's skin. Now if you want to say, well, this, this, ethnicity is better, at jumping or running or. If that's just a fact of life, that's a fact of life. I mean, the, what is it?

Stephen A. Smith said black players cannot compete with white players

The, the Asians seem to be better at math.

Ed Vitagliano Yeah.

Tim Wildmon Maybe they, maybe they have a better training.

Ed Vitagliano Or Ethiopians, long distance, running distance runners. Some of that may be attributed to the, you know, higher elevation and those kind of things. But that rant.

Tim Wildmon Right.

Ed Vitagliano That Steven A. Smith went on, totally unnecessary and.

Tim Wildmon Right.

Ed Vitagliano You know, he, he needs to tone that back. It's not helpful.

Steve Jordahl Can you, Ed, think of a, an NBA team that was led by three white dudes that went to the promised land? I bet you can.

Tim Wildmon You mean pre. Pre or post, what do you call it?

Ed Vitagliano Integration.

Tim Wildmon Integration.

Steve Jordahl Oh, post.

Ed Vitagliano Yeah, yeah. The Boston Celtics had, in the Larry Bird era, did have, some great white ballplayers on it. It wasn't full.

Steve Jordahl Denny Ainge.

Ed Vitagliano Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tim Wildmon But Larry Bird. A long time ago. But they, they, they also Bill Walton, Pete Marriage, they had those guys. But that was in the twilight of their careers.

Ed Vitagliano Yeah, but you know, they had Cornbread Maxwell and Robert Parish. I mean they had a lot of good black players too. Dennis, Rodman actually didn't.

Steve Jordahl He played.

Ed Vitagliano No, I'm not talking about Rodman. He was, he was black and he played.

Tim Wildmon Well, listen, it's undeniable that black athletes have dominated the NBA and the NFL for.

Ed Vitagliano Right.

Tim Wildmon For decades. so, I mean, that's undeniable. But for him to say that, you know, white players, you're not going to be able to go, you're not going to be able to achieve success with three white players, that is crazy. Go ahead, Fred. Well, to that point, yeah, these professional teams, whatever it is, basketball, football, hockey, whatever, they invest millions of dollars yeah, they're going to hire people to achieve success. Right. They'll come because of their skin color. Right. I know. Well, what he m. What Steven A. Smith, maybe he'll apologize for it. What he's saying, though, is right there, and we'll move on here, is you're not going to be able to win in professional basketball with white people leading the way. He didn't say, he didn't put any caveats in it or anything. He said it's because of their skin color that they're, going to be unable to beat the, He called them brothers. Yeah, that's what he called brothers. That's what black men call each other.

Ed Vitagliano Right.

Tim Wildmon Oftentimes that's just, I like, I like some of the things Steven A. Smith says. But if, if you reverse the rope, and you had a white commentator saying something of that nature, you would be, he would be banned from America for life. So. All right, next story.

NBC's Today show used biological terms in reporting on Supreme Court decision

Steve Jordahl All right, speaking of banning, NBC, the Today show was reporting, on the latest Supreme Court decisions. And they were reporting on the decision, that the Supreme Court made to, that said that you cannot put boys into girls sports. And, Craig Melvin, who was, hosting the show when they were talking about this, just decided he needed to put a trigger warning in, for their listeners. This is what he said. Cut 16.

Tim Wildmon just a quick note here.

Steve Jordahl the terms that we're using here during our reporting.

Tim Wildmon Biological, male, biological, female. the High Court, put those terms, in quotations, in their decision and their dissent. But just so you know, we're using those terms from the decision itself. Biological, male.

Ed Vitagliano Biological female. Female. What a nation of weenies. I said weenies, not Wheaties. So they have, they had to put a trigger warning in because they used biological. I, I, I hope I live long enough. At some point, unless our country goes completely off the rails and into the dustbin of history, at some point our nation is going to look back at this time and say, what kind of craziness, what kind of hysteria took over this country to where they would say things like, men can have babies, you know, and we can't say biological methods.

Tim Wildmon I'll tell you one thing. If you think in the NBA you're gonna win with three biological females leading the way, then you got another thing coming. Am I right?

Ed Vitagliano That is actually a true statement.

Tim Wildmon It's actually a true statement.

Steve Jordahl That would be true.

Tim Wildmon Okay. Ah, that's, Listen, the ways in which these reporters have to try to dance around the truth is not to offend, somebody.

Ed Vitagliano You know why they do that? Because they don't want to wind up working at Costco. They want to stay in their job. And their job requires wokeness.

Tim Wildmon There's really, if you want to boil it down, there's no thing as biological female or biological male. It's either male, female. You don't even need the word biological.

Steve Jordahl Right.

Tim Wildmon But. But. But why?

Steve Jordahl I was having trouble with the first story today, but.

Tim Wildmon But. But they have to do that to describe the situation, because you have men putting on dresses, saying, I'm Sally.

Ed Vitagliano Yes.

Tim Wildmon You know what I'm saying?

Steve Jordahl Right.

Tim Wildmon And we're all going now. You're Bill. We know who you are. Okay. We don't. You can call yourself Sally, but you're Bill.

Steve Jordahl Yeah.

Tim Wildmon Okay. All right. Thank you, Steve. Fred. Thank you. You bet. My thanks to Ed. But Tagliano and, let's see who else is in here. Krish Woodward, Sandy Frank.

Ed Vitagliano Rent.

Tim Wildmon Creely.

Steve Jordahl Cole.

Ed Vitagliano Cole Greene.

Tim Wildmon Cole Greene. and the cast of dozens. Dozens. Thank you for listening. have a wonderful celebration this weekend. Again tomorrow, a patriotic special during this time on American Family Radio.