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>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR. Today's Wednesday, June 3, 2026. All right, well, in studio with me is, Slightly Better Than Average team we've assembled here. But they're better than average. And that's Wesley. Leading off for us is, Wesley Wildmon. Good morning, Wesley.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Good morning. I'm ready for Wednesday, ready to go. Give. Give their audience the best we got.

>> Tim Wildmon: we're gonna bring it.

>> Wesley Wildmon: We're gonna bring it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Fred Jackson. Good morning, Fred.

>> Fred Jackson: Good to be here.

>> Chris Woodward: And Krish Woodward, as somebody that is below average height.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Chris Woodward: Better than average in anything.

>> Tim Wildmon: Being called slightly above average in anything.

>> Chris Woodward: It just means.

>> Wesley Wildmon: It just means more.

>> Tim Wildmon: You remember that? what are you, five, eight? five nine?

>> Chris Woodward: I'm five, six. On a good day with the right shoes.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know how many great people in history, though, have been right around your height, though?

>> Chris Woodward: Mugsy, Bogues, Zaki.

>> Fred Jackson: Go way back.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.

>> Chris Woodward: The Hobbit.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, that's one out.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's what I couldn't think of. But that's the one.

>> Chris Woodward: I was.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I was trying to figure that one out.

>> Tim Wildmon: The Hobbit.

>> Fred Jackson: Oh, are you admitting to be the resident Hobbit?

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, years, years ago. well, actually, when we had the Engage project years ago, the guy that was, running it at the time, he since, left to go do, some other great work, for the kingdom. but, we joked that I was the Papa Smurf of the, Engage Team because not only am I short, but I look like I'm old enough to be everybody's grandpa.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's only because of the gray.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. I saw a kid yesterday, at one of our fellowship activities that we had yesterday afternoon, and this young, man, his grandmother worked for us. And, my wife and I had the opportunity to teach him in Sunday school for a few years, and it had been several years since I saw him And I said, hey, so and so, good to see you. And he said, I mean, no filter at all on this kid. He went, you've gotten grayer since the last time I saw you. I was like, you enjoy that hot

>> Wesley Wildmon: dog, but you, but you wear it well. You almost like, huh? You would. I would almost thought you dyed it that way. Like, it looks good on.

>> Chris Woodward: I do joke on occasion that I actually dye my hair gray.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: but I'm sitting here wearing. You're not a hobbit. You're wearing tennis shoes. appears to me. But, anyway, all right, well, enough picking on Krish about. But, you know, hey, like I said, many people down through history have done great things who have been.

>> Tim Wildmon: your, your, your elevation. I would look at it.

>> Chris Woodward: I'm one of the last people to know it's raining. So that, that works.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, last people. Bada boom. All right, go ahead, Krish. What is our first news story?

President Trump says he's getting along well with Iranian leader

>> Chris Woodward: Well, let's begin with, Iran, where.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, let's move on, Krish. Okay, I don' to talk about Iran anymore. No, I'm just. Yeah, I'm just kidding. It's an important international story that, a lot hinges on what's going to happen.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes, go ahead, all. Ah, right. So yesterday, Iran started to fire missiles at, places in the Middle east that have US Military presence, a US Military presence. They even hit an airport in the Kuwait area, which Kuwait came out and condemned, the very violent and dangerous, attack on, civilians there. meanwhile, President Trump is still out there saying that negotiations are continuing. And in this particular soundbite, the President himself says that he is actually getting along quite well with the new Iranian leader. Don't take my word for it. Clip one.

>> Donald Trump: He is, giving approval because that's the way it has been for a long, long time. his father and then him. I guess it's a succession, but, we seem to be getting along quite well.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't believe that.

>> Chris Woodward: I don't either. Anybody?

>> Tim Wildmon: Anybody believe that anymore? No, his voice is getting really weak. I don't know. I don't know if that's permanent. I'm not permanent. I don't know if that's just. He's tired. Yeah, I mean, I can't blame him. Anybody? He's almost 80 years. He'll be 80 years old this month.

>> Chris Woodward: June 14th is his birthday.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, Fred, Everything's, going very well. What does that mean? I've heard that for.

>> Fred Jackson: Well, I find that amazing. They said he's Getting along with his Islamic leader. And at the same time, he confirmed overnight his insult to Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel, where he called him an expletive the other day and added crazy to it. That's how he referred to Netanyahu the other day. He's upset with Prime Minister Netanyahu because Israel is defending itself against attacks from Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon. But he referred to Netanyahu as crazy. But now he's praising this Islamic leader. This, who I refer to as mass murderers. That's what they are. The leadership of Iran are mass murderers.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. I don't even know what he's. Play that again. Because he says getting along very well or something. Play that again.

>> Donald Trump: He is, giving approval because that's the way it is. Has been for a long, long time. his father and then him. I guess it's a succession. But, we seem to be getting along quite well.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is he talking personally there, or is he talking about the US Negotiating with this fella? Well, we're talking about the guy who was about blown to pieces. Right, Wesley?

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. Ah, we're not sure is actually alive. Keep that in mind.

>> Fred Jackson: So how do you get along well with somebody who may be dead?

>> Chris Woodward: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: The Bible forbids that.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Get along with the dead.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I don't think we're supposed to be negotiating, communicating with dead people.

>> Fred Jackson: Well. And plus, it's not going well, as Krish has just told us.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know.

>> Fred Jackson: There's bombing back and forth. we had to take out another ship, that was trying to break the blockade the other day.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: To say that things are going well.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. I don't know. He just needs to turn all his talking over to Marco Rubio.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Secretary of State. I would just say, anyway, I think President Trump sounds like, to me, he's exhausted. Sounds like. I don't know this. He's going to turn 80 years old this month. and I think he's. I think he's in a situation that he doesn't know what to do. And, any president, most presidents don't want to admit that. and so that's my. That's my opinion.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I kind of alluded to this yesterday, but I'm just. I'm not. I'm a lot further into the MAGA camp than. Than you are, but I'm not covering. I'm not covering for him on this.

>> Tim Wildmon: Compared to me. Lefty, go ahead.

There's been many times over the years that President Trump has mocked Greenland

>> Wesley Wildmon: There's been many times over the years that whether even. Even in Trump's first term, and when he was not in the office and now in his second term. There's been many times over the years where, I just. I've seen things slightly different than you own a, certain, things that he does, such as President Trump.

>> Tim Wildmon: You talking about President?

>> Wesley Wildmon: I'll give you. I'll give you one example, and then I'll make a point.

>> Tim Wildmon: You calling me out?

>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm calling you out. So I'm saying there's been times over the years like when he would say things like, we're going to take over Alaska. You may say, well, that's the.

>> Tim Wildmon: You mean Greenland? We already got Alaska.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Sorry, not Alaska.

>> Tim Wildmon: We got it for.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Do we have Hawaii, too?

>> Tim Wildmon: We got a white.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay, okay. Got a white.

>> Tim Wildmon: You got a white analyst.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay, so that's good.

>> Tim Wildmon: Our sites are on Greenland.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Greenland. So when he would.

>> Tim Wildmon: And Venezuela, when you would say, I would take over.

>> Wesley Wildmon: We need to take over Greenland. where, however he phrased it, you would say, what? The fishermen? And then I would come back and go, well, there's minerals. So that's. That's kind of the back and forth.

>> Tim Wildmon: I would mock it and you would say, maybe there was a reason for Trump wanting to have Greenland. Right. I got you. Okay.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Because you're a serious scholar.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, yeah, yeah. I was just reading serious national scholars.

>> Tim Wildmon: Go ahead.

>> Wesley Wildmon: But the point is, on this one, I've just about. I haven't. I don't. I'm not covering for him anymore. I'm tired of it. I'm just tired of it. He is.

>> Tim Wildmon: So what you're saying is you're generally a Trump defender, and he, he does react. I would admit this, and I've said this. He has demonstrated good political instincts, in his time in office, going back to 16 overall. Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Because he would just do the opposite of what the left wanted.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So that would help. I mean, they usually.

>> Tim Wildmon: And he didn't care about.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Care what they thought.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. So. But. But he was. His, his tendency, Fred, President Trump's tendency to, I was very Spin things.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm very, very specific. I am tired specifically.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Of getting updates on the middle, on Iran that are not updates.

>> Chris Woodward: We write that down.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Chris Woodward: I know that for tomorrow, you know, you don't want.

>> Tim Wildmon: If you watch Fox News, you don't want to hear any ding, ding, ding, update. Well, Shawn Hannity went to the restaurant.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And further and further than that. I am not just the. I'm talking about. Of the, Of Iraq, the Iran updates, because it's frustrating I feel like they're dragging the MAGA group along here with no end in sight.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. And. Okay, so what.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: What would it be wrong? Fred was saying, President Trump. And I know this would go completely contrary to his personality, but what. What would be one of us saying? We don't have any updates for you. And. And until we do, we're not going to. We're not going to answer questions. well, I don't know.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Press secretary. Is she still on maternity leave?

>> Tim Wildmon: I haven't. Carolyn Levit. I haven't.

>> Wesley Wildmon: She was on.

So she's using having a baby for missing work

>> Chris Woodward: Cabinet secretaries have been doing the press briefing for a couple of weeks.

>> Tim Wildmon: So she's using having a baby for missing work.

>> Fred Jackson: Imagine that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Huh? I thought women were co. Equals.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, there.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: okay. Who's with me?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, No, I don't want to. You know what?

>> Fred Jackson: I'll play. I'll play Ed here for a second.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm just.

>> Fred Jackson: I'm gonna rescue you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. I need to shutty right here. Right. If you lose, you watch King of Queens. Know what I'm talking about?

Fred: If you want a spokesperson on Iran, default to Marco Rubio

All right, so anyway, Carolyn Levitt is, on maternity leave. He's about to give birth. Is that. She had a baby. I didn't. I missed that one. Okay. So, anyway, so, my point is, when there's nothing left to talk about, no new updates, maybe, you shouldn't give any. but. But on the other hand, we are talking about a war, and we are talking about something that affects the world and the economy, and so probably what I'm asking for doesn't. Wouldn't be doable. But anyway, you see what I'm saying. Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: You said something a moment ago. I agree 100% that if you want a spokesperson for the Trump administration on this, default to Marco Rubio.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Let the Secretary of State handle it. If our President Trump. I would say I have no more comments on this at this time. When I did. When I will. But, in the meantime, if you have any, direct them to Secretary of State Rubio.

>> Fred Jackson: He is brilliant.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, he is brilliant.

>> Fred Jackson: Rubio is brilliant. He is good under fire. And when he responds, it is thorough, it is truthful. And I, think he should be the official spokesman for this war.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And I hope I'm not saying this a month from now, but this. This has to stop in Iran.

>> Fred Jackson: Oh.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And it has to stop and has. And it starts with the President Trump and the military and the leaders. I don't. I just don't understand how they did not calculate. not calculate. How did they Count for, account for the straight up Hormuz. On top of that, if they did account for it, how is it that the, that Iran is controlling the negotiations?

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't get that either.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That, that is that you're not in charge, then

>> Tim Wildmon: how can you take out their whole military and then you can't control 20 miles of, of a strait? In other words, I don't understand why. Now I'm speaking as a novice, as a person who's ignorant of most military operations, but I don't understand how if you open up that strait, you tell all, the Strait of Hormuz, which is the, place that leaves the, is it the Persian Gulf goes, that all those merchant ships, including the oil ships go through every day. It's vital to, how you say that this country that's, that doesn't have any military left can dictate to the world who can go through there. I don't understand because it seems like to me, if in fact you tell Iran you fire on any ship, we're going to, wherever that missile comes from, we're going to blow that place to smithereens. And why wouldn't that stop this thing? I just don't.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's what I'm building frustration on.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, go ahead, Krish.

>> Chris Woodward: For critics out there, and not just Democrats, who were saying things like Trump got us involved in a war or a conflict, that we can't get out of it. This, no pun intended, gives them ammunition. The fact that it seems to be, we're negotiating with the bad guy, but he's getting to call all the

>> Tim Wildmon: shots and we're getting along well.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah. how many times have we heard gas is going to come down? I looked it up the other day. So Operation Epic Fury, the strikes that led to all this, that started all this, that was on February 28th and at some point around the middle of March is when he and other members of the administration started to say, gas is going to come down. Gas is going to come down. We're two weeks out from bringing it into this. It would seem that we got involved in this thinking we would be out of it by, I don't know, the end of March. And here we are going into June. I mean, we're in June now and gas is, gas is down 20 cents in the last week, but it's still way more than it was this time last year when things were just starting to come down.

>> Tim Wildmon: Let me, let's review here, because I do want to defend, President now. Everything's hindsight's 2020 as the expression goes. By the way, you are listening to the radio program Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim, Wesley, Fred and Krish. I want to go back to how this started for just a moment because, President Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel in the US Decided that the time was now to, to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Okay, so let's go back to the beginning of this because it's easy to get lost in the day to day weeds, so to speak. That is a. I support that effort.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh yeah, for sure.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. I support that effort, as that premise right there. Okay.

Fred M. Cohen: Did President Trump really not understand Iranian mentality

So. And I think, I think most Americans, at least 50, 50, 60% support that ideas. No, don't let these religious crazies get in. Get it, get their hands on a m. Weapon of mass destruction like a nuclear weapon. Okay, so how do we stop that from happening? This is where I think the lack of, I don't know if you would call it a, possibility they didn't consider. I'm talking about they being the US And Israel. That is to say, okay, we're going to bomb them and bomb them and bomb them. We're taking out their navy, their army, their missile launchers, whatever, and they're going to come to the table and they're going to say, they're going to cry uncle and say, okay, we'll give you what you want. That is, we'll give up the attempt to have nuclear weapons. and so, and because we don't want to be bombed anymore. Okay, I, this is where it hasn't been explained to me or I don't understand what the contingency plan was if in fact Iran said, we don't care, you can bomb us. Well, I mean we do care, but you can bomb us. But we're not going to tell you we're giving up our, our uranium enrichment. and we don't care. We don't care what you do. That seems to be where we are. And then, and then you go in to talk to President Trump and you go, what now? He goes, you mean they didn't give in? No, sir, they didn't give in. I, don't know what to do. That seems to be, that seems, that seems to be where we are.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know if that. I hope that's fair because I think the President Trump. I think that's where we are. And President Trump's not exactly one to.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And the closest thing say, I didn't.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know what to do now.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And about three weeks ago, too, we were at a point where it was all right. Remember, he said he was going to destroy the civilization. Remember this one?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. He said he's going to wipe out a civilization.

>> Wesley Wildmon: But then he. Then he said, okay, now we're going to take out bridges, 48 hours. But, but on that front, when he only did that, that's when they lined up their women and children.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So they had the upper hand here.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Because they're willing to do anything. Yeah. Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: So we can look at possibilities. Did President Trump really not understand the mentality.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, he didn't.

>> Fred Jackson: of these people. You just referenced how they respond when the threat on the bridges, they put their own citizens, men, women and children on those bridges.

>> Wesley Wildmon: These are zealots, the women and children.

>> Fred Jackson: That's where their thinking is. And I'm not sure I've said about the Islamic regime, they are evil to the core, but they don't. Don't say they're not smart.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: They completely understand that we are facing an election in this country. M. They are using that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: And then somebody around their table said, let's take control of the Strait of Hormuz. That will really mess things up. And we're going to start bombing Kuwait and Qatar and the uae. That'll create more chaos. And by the way, the mainstream media in the United States doesn't like our enemy, Mr. Trump. Mr. Trump. And so they've got these cards. President Trump keeps saying, we have all the cards. No, you don't. They understand that you have political realities in this country right now. I think I would have waited until after the November election to do this campaign.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, because you have. But what if you couldn't, Fred? Because time of the essence. They're about to get a nuclear weapon. That's what we were told. I mean, they were within, what, weeks or days or. That's what we were told.

>> Fred Jackson: That's what we were told.

>> Tim Wildmon: But we were also told last June, we got them. Took it out. Remember that?

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: and then it comes back, we took it out. Oh, no, we didn't. So I don't know what to believe on that.

>> Wesley Wildmon: On that topic.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So, Yeah, I do think you're right. The Iranians understand there's an American election in the fall, and the longer they can drag this out, the more it hurts President Trump and weakens him. And, now, I don't think you have to wait.

>> Wesley Wildmon: If you, if you go in there and you do it and within, within 10 days, that I felt, I felt good enough about. All right, sounds good. Let's wrap it up and come on.

Chris: President Trump probably thought the blockade would work by now

After 10 days of just destroying their military, all sitting down.

>> Tim Wildmon: Also, Krish, I think President Trump probably thought the blockade would work by now. The word the, we had, we have been blockading ships going into and coming from Iran. So we've shut their economy down in terms of shipping. yeah, yeah, I don't know. Go ahead.

>> Chris Woodward: I think, I think without anybody having told me this, that we expected their people to pretty much topple their government by the end of March and we would be looking at like, you know, fair elections or something like that at this point. It's like, it's, you know, we, we.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, we had an uprising over there in Iran. This is what, six months or a year ago or, and they were, they were, they were, they were slaughtered.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And they were put down. And so they're, they don't have any guns. They hide in their houses. I read about this. They don't. There's no, there's no way right now for them. That is the people who do want a revolution, a, who do want freedom, who want to get out from under the, the mullahs, they, they don't have any way to fight back.

>> Chris Woodward: Right. And so in Trump's defense, I, do, I do believe this. If the election had gone differently and we had a Harris Walls administration, Iran might have already nuked somebody just because Kamala said you can't do that. So Trump has done the world a favor.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, that's obvious. We haven't given them pallets of money or cash either like Obama did. Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: But I do, I do think, I do think we reached the point of being stuck.

>> Wesley Wildmon: we are.

>> Tim Wildmon: And we're like a truck in a ditch. You know, we thought we had it in four wheel drive and we were going to get across the ditch, but

>> Wesley Wildmon: both, now we, both wheels are injured.

>> Tim Wildmon: Now we need a four wheel drive with a winch. How you like that? Okay, so who's going to be the four wheel drive with the win?

>> Chris Woodward: And unfortunately, some of our friends that have a car that could pull us out of the ditch are like, you got into that ditch, you get yourself

>> Tim Wildmon: out, keep spinning your wheels.

We're done with Iran. No more Iran after this time out

All right, let's go ahead and take our break. A little bit early here and not much early. And then when we get back, more news. We, we're done with Iran. I could talk about that the next half hour.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Not doing it. I'm not gonna let us.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're not good.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm not going to let us.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hold us accountable. Move on.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm going to steer the ship back.

>> Tim Wildmon: We got more stories. What now?

>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm going to steer the ship back.

>> Tim Wildmon: Steer. You steer that ship back. we're going to take a break right here. We'll be back with more of today's issues. No more Iran after this time out.

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Nick Saban is testifying before a Senate committee on college athletics

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back everybody to Today's Issues on American Family Radio. Tim, Wesley, Fred and Kent Krish here on afr. What is former coach Nick Saban doing? Testifying.

>> Chris Woodward: He's talking about college sports. Saban is, on this.

>> Tim Wildmon: Testifying. He's, he's in, he's in Washington, yes, testifying, before a Senate committee. What's he talking about?

>> Chris Woodward: He's talking about nil fair, competition in sports, revenue sharing, things like that. Saban is one of the people that President Trump asked to be part of, kind of a commission, to discuss the current problems that we are having in college athletics in the NIL era. Nil being the name, image, likeness stuff for people that haven't paid attention to sports, in the last few years. College sports specifically, Name, image, likeness is something that now allows a college athlete, men and women, to make some money. They're not employees of the university, but let's say a quarterback or a point guard, a pitcher, can make some money, now. And they're paid basically through what are called collectives and other fancy named organizations that the athletic director, oversees at a school. And it's caused some problems where, smaller schools specifically, the concern is they can't compete because the state school up the road that has a lot more alums, and therefore has more money, is creating instability in college athletics. And Nick Saban somehow knows the answer to all this.

>> Tim Wildmon: I would be curious to see what he has to say at that. by the way, the nil, we won't dwell on this because I know most people don't care, in light of everything else that's going on in the world. But in college athletics, you can now pay athletes straight up. Here's, here's so. But actually I think this has m. Morphed into something that the ruling wasn't intended. The Supreme Court ruling. What it intended, never intended for it to happen. What happened, you want to know? The, some companies were using college athletes to promote their products.

>> Chris Woodward: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: This goes back to what the, the O' Bannon brothers at UCLA in basketball goes back probably 20 years.

>> Chris Woodward: It's 30 years.

>> Tim Wildmon: 30 years already. So they were there. Correct me if I'm wrong here where I remember this. Their images were being used on a video game.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. At that time, it Was illegal. Well, he. Probably not illegal, but he was against the rules of the NCAA that college athletes be paid straight up. Okay. They could be compensated with a scholarship. They could have their, you know, clothes, you know, they're, they could have, they could have certain things, but they couldn't just pay to be paid outright like professional sports. Well, these brothers went to court and said, hey, you are using our images, our name to sell your product and you're not compensating us anything.

>> Tim Wildmon: They won that court case and it went all the way to Supreme Court. I agree with that. Okay. I agree with that. Okay. That, that much of it, I think. but here's what happened. Here's why some people say it's ruining college sports. So, so the Supreme Court ruled that you could compensate a student athlete if a company used their image to promote their product. Okay, so, let's say your local Ford dealership in, I don't know, Fayetteville, Arkansas, wants, to use the quarterback to say, come on down and buy cars from us. Okay. At the University of Arkansas. So that quarterback then would be paid by the Ford dealership to do the advertisement. That was the theory. That was the idea. So you use my name, image or likeness, then I deserve to be compensated for such. Well, what happened with that was that turned into, just everybody, every school, getting a bunch of money together and just doling it out to all the athletes, regardless of whether their name, image or likeness was being used to sell products. Does that make sense? Yeah, that's what happened and that's where we are today. And I don't know, it's kind of like the genies out of the bottle. I'm not sure exactly people would want to know, do we even want to do anything about this? Does it matter? And, and I don't. I'm wondering, does it even affect college athletes, athletics at all that much? Because, the I, I like Indiana winning the national championship in football. I think that's refreshing that we don't have to watch Alabama or Georgia again, our Ohio State again. no disrespect to those schools there, but they were great. Those universities I just mentioned were great prior to nil and they'll be great afterwards. They just, yeah, they have great, tradition and money and support and fan base. So I'm not dissing Alabama, Georgia or Ohio State. I'm just saying it's it, you know, for the rest of us, we'd like to see Indiana, you know, pop up and win A national championship. So maybe in that respect the nil Wesley, helps. Helps parody in college. In college athletics. What do you think about that?

>> Wesley Wildmon: I don't have grow. I'm growing to understand and kind of have a, distance appreciation for the nil Money side of things. I don't like the transfer stuff. It's not the money. It's not paying a player for performing as much as it is that you. There's the.

>> Tim Wildmon: I hate it. The commitment M. For college sports fans, it's fruit basket turnover every single year in every single sport. And just. It.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Even the NFL, even. Even professional sports don't turn over that much. No.

>> Tim Wildmon: You just sort of lose your soul.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: On that. Because for.

Chris: My one concern is Congress getting involved in college athletics

For college football fan. Fan. College sports fans, you, You. You watch your school, and your school recruits athletes and they're freshmen and you know, they came from this school in this town and then you watch them develop as a sophomore and as a junior and here's their senior year. It's no more of that. it's every year. You have to learn who. Well, it's a whole new roster and

>> Wesley Wildmon: the ripple effect that you're seeing, you're seeing kids. Oh, I'm hurt. So they can get an injury.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm leaving.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So. Yeah, yeah. So they can get an injury. pass. So that they don't lose a year of eligibility. So they can.

>> Chris Woodward: Yes. And that. That's a couple of. That's created a new situation in college sports now, where players, make more money potentially in college athletics than they might at the professional level. Which is why you're seeing a quarterback for a state school. Ask for an eighth year of eligibility.

>> Tim Wildmon: Because I have a one.

>> Chris Woodward: He was 18.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Did I ask for an eighth year ending?

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you never were on the team in the first place, so how can you get an eighth year out? of.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And then you answered. Identify as.

>> Tim Wildmon: Identify as being on the quarterback.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So I don't know what your problem.

>> Chris Woodward: If Mississippi State is listening. I am happy to play and suit up for the Bulldogs for any sport. My only nil.

>> Tim Wildmon: 5 6.

>> Chris Woodward: I got a lot of heart.

>> Tim Wildmon: All of fire. Yes, but you think Doug Flutie was 5, 9. He towered over you.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, man.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, but you can bring it.

>> Chris Woodward: I, I dominated Madden back in the

>> Wesley Wildmon: day, but now I thought you could say badminton.

>> Chris Woodward: No, no, no.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay. Bad.

>> Chris Woodward: My, my one concern, here for Congress really getting involved here.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.

>> Chris Woodward: And this is the conservative in me. my concern is government's going to get in and Mess it up.

>> Tim Wildmon: Like, name none of their business.

>> Chris Woodward: Right. Name three things government has done. Right. I can't get mail on time, and they're going to fix college athletics.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't think the mail service is owned by the government anymore, but I get your point.

>> Wesley Wildmon: It was.

>> Tim Wildmon: And we're not dissing all mail carriers.

>> Wesley Wildmon: No, no.

>> Tim Wildmon: Many of whom listen to this show.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. We're just some male carriers.

>> Tim Wildmon: Krish is just trying to make a point that the government doesn't solve problems. Usually they make it worse.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: And getting involved in college athletics. But they. Yeah, the transfer thing, where that's. They used to have a rule in college sports where if you transferred schools, you had to sit out a year.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Which made the players think before they just did some kind of an emotional morning.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Sit out. You lose a year. It's not just sitting out. And then you pick up where you left off. You'd sit out and lose a year.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, I didn't know that. Well, anyway, so. But the point is, it created. It was more of a, thinking process, and you had to have. It teaches kids patience, and it teaches kids, young people, that you can't just leave.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Think three things.

>> Tim Wildmon: You can't just leave because your coach got, upset with you at one practice, and you'd say, why, I'm out of here and I'll just transfer to school B, and I won't have to suffer any at all for my, You know, I just. So it's just. It's just turn. The transfer thing, where they just transfer every year. There's one kid I remember reading about, he transferred from, four different schools in four different years.

>> Chris Woodward: Oh, yeah?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Anyway, let's move on.

What's next? Well, I just wanted to say real quick,

What's next?

>> Chris Woodward: Well, I just wanted to say real quick, I am waiting on the day where a kid goes into the locker room at halftime and comes out wearing the other team's jersey. Tell me I can't.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right? Tell me they just paid me more. I'm playing for them. This half. This half.

Tim Ferriss: California has what's called a top two primary system

>> Chris Woodward: All right, from the golden era of college athletics to the Golden State. let's, talk for a moment about some primary results in California.

>> Tim Wildmon: I can't get me enough of California politics.

>> Chris Woodward: That's why I'm here.

>> Tim Wildmon: Tim, you need to. I've been waiting for this story, but

>> Wesley Wildmon: he's going to read this as if the cup's half full. So just have. Let him have his moment.

>> Chris Woodward: All right, so California has what's called a top two primary system. Some People call it a jungle primary. And basically what it boils down to is when California has a primary for state and federal elections, Republicans, Democrats, Independents, Libertarians and other political parties, they all run together in one big primary and the top two survive out of that, the top two vote gap survive out of that or advance out of that and go into a runoff or general election. When it comes to the gubernatorial election in California, which say that real fast. Gubernatorial, yeah, that's a fancy way of saying governor's race. Okay, it looks like Republican Steve Hilton, that some people might recognize from Fox News programs, he's going to be in the general election against Javier Becerra. Becerra is another name people might recognize. He was the secretary of HHS under Joe Biden when he was, was president. and it looks like Javier Becerra and Steve Hilton are going to advance to a general election. If Hilton were to win, he would be the first Republican governor in California since Arnold Schwarzenegger. Gavin Newsom is going to be leaving office and probably running for president, in the not too distant future.

>> Tim Wildmon: Disappointing.

>> Chris Woodward: And, so, Javier Becerra is out there promising all kinds of stuff, and so is Steve Hilton. He's talking about, I'm going to make gas, cheaper, I'm going to forgive 100, your first hundred grand is going to be tax free. All kinds of things. Here's a little bit of, Becerra and Hilton. Clip 2.

>>  : There are powerful forces aligned to darken our light. The last thing these forces want is a working class governor with a law degree and a union card ready to call them out. I am ready to lead the fight to, uphold California's promise.

>> Ed Vitagliano: But we have an option for check change in California because everyone can see we're going in the wrong direction. We can offer Californians a new direction. In November, 56% of Californians think the state's going in the wrong direction. And so now it looks as if we really can say in the words that are, behind me, change is coming to California.

>> Tim Wildmon: Bless his heart. He really believes that, it's possible.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Cup half full.

>> Chris Woodward: He's got a 50 shot.

>> Tim Wildmon: He's got no shot. he's trying. So did Larry Elder and others. California is never going to elect a Republican to statewide office again in our lifetime. They're too far gone. They're too blue. and so it I, you would. I like Steve Hilton, but he's got no shot.

>> Wesley Wildmon: What if we cheat, though?

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you can do that, you can do that. You can Plan some cheating, box stuffing. I'm just saying that, that is a blue state and it's deep. It's getting deep, deeper blue. Fred, any thoughts on this? Do you think I'm too pessimistic for Mr. Hilton there?

>> Fred Jackson: I kind of agree with you. When it comes to Los Angeles and it comes to the governor's race, I think there is a component of, the population there that is upset. We do have another story, and Krish may get to this in a minute. There's a woman named Sonya Sh. Now, you may remember her from. She's, out of the Chino Hills area of California, near Ontario, California. She has gained a national profile. She stands up for parental rights in schools. She's also been against boys playing in girls sports. And I think she's been the subject of some court cases out there, too, as well. Krish, you've covered this.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: Here's the news on her. She now holds, as of last night, a sizable lead, to become the possible state superintendent of Education. So once again, and we've kind of talked about this before, when it comes to parental rights, when it comes to protecting daughters against men playing in sports and men going into girls washrooms and change rooms, even Democrats are against that. In fact, the latest poll that I saw Yesterday, well over 60% of Americans are opposed to guys playing in women's sports, guys being able to go into washrooms. She is capitalizing on that even amongst Democrats in California. So you're going to have the possibility here of a conservative on these issues becoming heading up the education, venue there in California. That would be something. But again, it goes to both Democrats and Republicans, moms and dads being against guys going into girls washrooms.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, Steve Hilton, okay, Steve Hilton, the Republican, got what percentage of

>> Chris Woodward: the vote he actually got? More than Becerra. I've got the unofficial, election results from the Secretary of State's website. So this morning I printed this out. Hilton had 27.8% of the vote yesterday, which was 2 percentage points more than Becerra, his Democratic challenger.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, but who is third?

>> Chris Woodward: that would be Thom Steyer, a billionaire philanthropist, that was trying to convince Democrats that hate billionaires to vote for him. but Thom, Sarah got 19.6. Behind him was Chad Bianco. And here's.

>> Tim Wildmon: Here's what.

>> Chris Woodward: Chad Bianco is the sheriff for Riverside County Republican. Some, some people have made the argument that Bianco hurt Hilton here and maybe should have dropped out going into the primary because had Bianco Dropped out and endorsed Hilton. Hilton might theoretically have as much as 40% today.

>> Tim Wildmon: See, this is why Krish is here.

Deep dives into the gubernatorial race. Let's end on a positive note

Deep dives into the gubernatorial race. You said gubernatorial.

>> Chris Woodward: I did. Don't ask me to spell it, but okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: is what. What that's what our listeners expect from you? Gubernatorial, they've come to expect from you. Let's move on. You know, I will. I'll, What will I do?

>> Wesley Wildmon: be careful.

>> Tim Wildmon: I know I was. I promised to eat a hat four years ago.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's trash.

>> Tim Wildmon: But I remember that Democrats won Georgia, and I never did eat that hat, so maybe I eat, too.

>> Caroline: Go.

>> Tim Wildmon: Double or nothing. Okay, go ahead, Krish.

>> Chris Woodward: Let's end it on a positive, note.

>> Tim Wildmon: Let's have a positive note.

Arkansas has declared June Fidelity Month instead of LGBTQ Pride Month

>> Chris Woodward: All right, so, June is a month that many governments, including red states, or observing, is what they call Pride Month. LGBTQ Pride Month. Arkansas this year is not one of those states. As a matter of fact, Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders has declared June to be Fidelity Month. in her proclamation, Governor Sanders said her state and our nation are built on a foundation of faith, virtue, and morality. She added that dedicating a month to these principles helps strengthen society. She explicitly points to the Declaration of Independence. Independence is mention of nature's God. And she quotes George Washington on how virtue and morality are necessary for a popular government to work. For reaction to the story, I reached out to our friends at the Family Council.

>> Tim Wildmon: Reach out?

>> Chris Woodward: I did. Okay, well, don't take my word for it. Let's listen to, David Cox of family council. Clip 12.

>> Caroline: We deeply appreciate the governor's proclamation. You know, this, if you look at the proclamation and what she's said here, these words, this is all about cultivating fidelity to God, to family, to community, to country. You know, those are founding principles for our nation, that we would be faithful to our God, to our families, and to our communities, and, ah, ultimately to our nation. So it's really, in that regard, a celebration of our heritage and what's, you know, allowed America to flourish the way it has for the last 250 years. And in tandem with that, it's also an opportunity to encourage our Kansans to practice virtue, commitment, responsibility, you know, celebrating the moral foundations of our state and our nation. So we think this is an excellent proclamation and we really appreciate the governor issuing it.

>> Chris Woodward: Guys. It is possible other states might kind of follow Arkansas's lead. maybe not this summer, but next year. and I say that based on a Gallup poll, which actually finds support for LGBTQ issues has dropped, in this country.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. I think. Well, it's been. We've been given the LGBTQ Pride stuff, like a fire hose.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Blasting in your mouth, and people are just tired of it. I think they're exhausted with, How much pride do you need? Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: Yay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yay.

>> Chris Woodward: Well, that's what they want.

>> Tim Wildmon: They want gay. Gay. Let's clap. But most people don't care what somebody's, you know, sexual orientation is, as long as you don't push it on everybody else. That's right. go ahead.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. But, yeah, and what's. What's worse, A, fake applause or no applause at all? You know what I mean? Like, I guess what I'm saying is, like, over the years, they're wanting to force something on somebody that doesn't really believe it. And even when they do do it, they're just doing it halfway. Like, what more do they want from us, you know?

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, yeah, there's. There. The. The LGBTQ community, if that's what you want to call it, has gotten everything they want for the last 20 years, 25 years. And so there's nothing else to conquer, really, in society. I, mean, so, I don't know, there's not even the need for, it's not even a need for activism on their part anymore. So the Pride Month, you know, the LGBTQ Pride Month, is just. It's kind of like, been there, done that. You really need to keep on pushing this, Fred.

>> Fred Jackson: Exactly. along with Arkansas, Tennessee has taken a similar move. they want to celebrate families Nuclear Family Month. Nuclear Family Month in Tennessee. So congratulations, to Tennessee.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's what they did. So instead of having Pride Month.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: These states, Arkansas, Tennessee, are having Family

>> Fred Jackson: Month, basically celebrating moms and dads and kids. I think that's wonderful.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Yeah, absolutely.

Steve: Self driving trucks could deliver packages to your door

You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Next story. Krish?

>> Chris Woodward: Well, we, from time to time, point out,

>> Tim Wildmon: What do we point out, Steve? Krish?

>> Wesley Wildmon: well, point out a lot.

>> Chris Woodward: I'm trying to pick here.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, if we have four minutes left, we do. We need to point out something.

>> Chris Woodward: be careful when you're driving down the road, because from time to time we've mentioned this story, but self driving technology, self driving vehicle technology has been taking off. We have done stories on the show about how they're testing things in Texas involving. I'm not making this up. Self driving semis, driving around the state of Texas. It was a pilot program. We've discussed it before. but there is an update on this based on a story Tim found, on Daily Mail. I'll post it on our Today's Issues Facebook page. But now we got self driving trucks delivering goods. So keep your eyes on the road because the thing in front of you or around you may not be driven by a human.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, we're talking about, Are we talking about. I, forgot. We talking about like FedEx deliveries or UPS.

>> Chris Woodward: It's a combination of things.

>> Tim Wildmon: I. Wow. trucks. That would be weird to say the, least if you saw a truck driving down the.

>> Wesley Wildmon: It's weird if any vehicle doesn't have a driver.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but this is real. This is starting to happen. Right?

>> Chris Woodward: I'm pulling it up here.

>> Fred Jackson: My question is, okay, there's nobody in that truck. Who's going to carry the package up to the front door?

>> Wesley Wildmon: You have to come get it yourself.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, that's a good question. How do you get. I don't know. we'll find out more about that, but I'm getting robots. I'm guess it's a robot.

>> Chris Woodward: There is robot technology in place. and I'm not making this up. The University of Mississippi, also known as Ole Miss, has for a while now had robots that deliver your food that you order through an app. Though it's a little like R2D2 looking thing that travels around the campus.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And you got to be careful read the first sentence. or two.

>> Chris Woodward: I am trying to pull it up here.

>> Tim Wildmon: That story that I sent around because this was, this was no joke. this is like trucks are now being. I got you use driverless.

>> Chris Woodward: All right, so the headline is soon 80,000 pound self driving trucks could deliver packages to your door. scrolling through a ton of ads here at the beginning of the thing. I can't get to the beginning of it. My computer is frozen.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's bad timing.

>> Chris Woodward: This is also great radio. I'll see myself out after the show.

>> Tim Wildmon: frozen.

>> Chris Woodward: Yeah, it's like stuck.

>> Fred Jackson: All right, well, and that's what worries me about driverless trucks.

>> Chris Woodward: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: Well, that's why the computer freezes.

>> Chris Woodward: I got you. I got you.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're right about though the question would be.

>> Wesley Wildmon: All right, here's the first. Here's a couple sentence. Imagine driving on the interstate and carefully overtaking an 18 wheeler when sut. When suddenly as you peer into the rearview mirror, you notice there's nobody behind the wheel. Does this sound like an opening of a road trip horror movie? Question mark?

>> Chris Woodward: Terminator.

>> Wesley Wildmon: It's happening and in fact, it's happening already as a reality in Texas.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. well, all right. So, we will take a short time out right here, and be back with more of today's issues in just a few moments. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.

Tim, Wesley and Fred talk with Chris on top news headlines of the day including a discussion on the California primary.