Host: And welcome back. Ed Vitagliano is sitting in for Tim Wildmon this week. I'm joined in the studio by Wesley Wildmon and Tony Vitagliano. Chris Woodward has gone to his office, and he is replaced by Steve Paisley-Jordan, who joins us in the studio.
Host: Good morning, Steve.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: Hey, everybody.
Host: True to his moniker, he has one of the paisley shirts. That's one of the bright ones.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: I am donning a little paisley.
Host: That's not a little paisley. That's a lot of paisley.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: I'm going a lot.
Host: There's a little variation there.
Host: Well, that's a little Three Amigos there.
Host: All right, Steve.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: That's back when there was clean comedy with older people. It wouldn't have to be necessarily an animated film to be clean.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: My wife and Tony and I still carry on conversations with lines from that.
Host: Oh, yeah. My little buttercup and sweetness.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: Yeah.
Host: All right. We need to know. We ain't got it for a minute.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: No, I'm kidding.
Host: We've got stays prepared for us. Look up here. Look up here.
Host: Steve, have you ever seen it?
Host: We don't recommend movies on here, folks. I never know. I can't remember. What were you talking about?
Steve Paisley-Jordan: What's for Three Amigos?
Host: Oh, yeah. Martin Short, Chevy Chase.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: Yeah.
Host: Back in the day.
Host: So last hour, you guys were talking about how much the Democrats hate Donald Trump and will do anything they can do. Was it in the context of the $5,000 that may be coming?
Host: No, we had not talked about the beautiful $5,000 present that we would get. Donald Trump is doubling down, saying the $5,000 is coming. There's a disagreement. That's not why I bring it up. I bring it up to show you how much Democrats hate Donald Trump.
Host: So back in May, you remember that the courts awarded about $1.7 billion to the Trump administration for aggressively suing the people who maliciously sued Donald Trump?
Host: He got a bunch of money, right? And Donald Trump said that he would give it to anybody who had been maliciously sued, that he would share it with anybody who had been maliciously sued. That might include January 6 defendants and everyone.
Host: Well, back in May, Gavin Newsom decided he wasn't going to have any of that. This is how much they hate Donald Trump. Listen to what he said.
Gavin Newsom: The thing that I think we're going to try to do with your support is tax 100 percent anyone from California that receives any of those funds. We want to tax 100 percent of those proceeds. That's an action the state of California can take, and it's an action we look forward to taking.
Host: I don't think that's legal. I don't think you can use taxes to target people for their political views.
Host: In other words, it would wind up in federal court. Who knows how that turns out? Just because it's not constitutional doesn't mean that federal judges won't ignore that. But Newsom said he would tax 100 percent of anything Californians got from Donald Trump. That's how much they hate the man.
Host: I just was kind of affirming what you guys had talked about.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: Also, Gavin Newsom says, "Please, megacorporations, don't leave us. California is a great place to visit. Please stop leaving for Texas. Please."
Host: Well, you know, we've mentioned countless times that it's been more than 10 years since Donald Trump came down the elevator and said he was running for president. We've played many times the brainiacs on news channels who laughed at the thought that he could become president.
Host: He has been mercilessly attacked in the media, in court, and by the intelligence community. We go on and on and on. I've honestly never seen anything like the hatred that has landed on Donald Trump's head since 2015.
Host: I've paid attention to politics since I was in the seventh grade, and that's a long time ago for me. I pay attention to it, and I like history.
Host: In terms of our country, I'm not sure. Maybe I'm going to say something that sounds like something Donald Trump would say. We all know he considers himself the best, greatest president ever, by his own admission. He's pretty great. I'm about to compare him to Abraham Lincoln.
Host: Was Abraham Lincoln hated that much by the slaveholding states? I'm sure historians and political science experts will, over the years to come, lay out their explanations for why he has been such a lightning rod. But it is just a fact of politics that the man has been hated like nobody in my lifetime.
Tony: In 2017 and 2025, these numbers can be carried over and extrapolated because the pattern continues. These are hard numbers. In 2017, during President Trump's first 100 days in office, 92 percent of all news outlets, local and national, had negative coverage of President Trump.
Tony: In 2025, it was 93 percent. During his first 100 days in office in his second term, 93 percent of news coverage highlighted the most negative spin on whatever he did. That's never been done. The closest thing was 60 percent for another president, but it wasn't even in the ballpark.
Host: So it's a 30-point difference.
Tony: That covers local and national outlets. That's the 92 percent from the study and then 93 percent in 2025.
Host: That's right. And that's with Fox News in existence, the New York Post, and other alternative conservative media. It's still that high a percentage.
Tony: I'm just going to do a quick rapid fire on a few things that come to mind. I don't have any notes in front of me, but how many presidents have been rated at their own home right by the FBI?
Host: Yeah. Well, how many presidents have had three assassination attempts in a two- or three-year span?
Tony: Got shot.
Host: And then people said he was faking it.
Tony: Yes, there was the hit on his ear. In spite of some pretty big failures, in particular big failures with the economy and the war in his second term, and in spite of the fact that you can't defend some of the things he says, or, I'm sorry, not the things, but how he says things, he will still go down as one of the top three or four most conservative policy presidents of all time. He has accomplished more than maybe anybody in my lifetime except for Reagan.
Tony: Let me just end with this. I could talk about this for a while because I'm a big proponent of what he's done. I support President Trump and 97 percent of what he does. Let me say this, too. In addition to that, when people complain about what he's not able to do, you understand that he is at the mercy of executive orders now.
Host: Yeah.
Tony: I mean, that's what he has to do. A lot of people in D.C. don't do anything. Even his own political party is as much to blame as anybody for getting stuff done because he's down to executive orders.
Tony: By the way, look at that first week of him in office in 2025. Colleges and academics across the United States were doing away with their DEI programs as a direct result of him signing the executive orders. His executive orders say men can't play in women's sports. I mean, he is closing down the border.
Tony: The alternative is Kamala Harris, okay? So, when we constructively criticize a few things, like I'm critical of still being at war, and that's a problem for me, and the economy is not any better, I have problems with that. But I unify around the movement to be sustainable for the future because we've got a couple of things wrong here.
Tony: If you add Biden and Kamala back to back, it would have been the end of the republic. That's why God is sparing us and giving us an opportunity.
Tony: We're going to keep fighting. AFA, AFA Action, ADF, those are just a couple that come to mind, but there are other local and state family policy groups. There's plenty of them. There's also a growing trend on social media platforms of more conservative pastors speaking up.
Tony: There's a guy in Texas. I forget his name. He's a younger guy. Jeff Struecker? No. Well, Jeff is there. There's another one. I'll think of his name in a minute. But we're making some ground. Those are just some things I think about when I think about President Trump.
Wesley: Yeah, absolutely. I agree with you. I think about all the presidents who said they would bring the U.S. Embassy back to Jerusalem. Who actually did it? Donald Trump. He put his money where his mouth is.
Wesley: He appointed three Supreme Court justices who eventually overturned Roe v. Wade. That was Donald Trump.
Tony: I've never thought that would happen in my lifetime.
Wesley: Honestly, if you asked a lot of Christians and those who had been involved in the pro-life fight, I'm sure many of them would have said, based on the trajectory of the nation and the view of the issue, "We just never thought it would happen." But it did.
Tony: Thank you.
Host: All right, I kind of meant that to be hit and run. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to take all the time.
Host: Oh, listen, that was a good conversation. We need to have that periodically and give credit where credit is due. What have you got next?
Tony: The latest numbers out of the poll are appalling. As of September 15, 1,386 deaths have been confirmed, 5,100 people are still missing, and more than 11,000 have been rescued.
Tony: The reason I'm bringing this up is because, for the first time in its history, Eight Days of Hope is ministering in Nepal. I had a chance to talk to Steve Tiber, the founder and president of Eight Days of Hope.
Tony: I have to tell you, if that man is busier, I don't know who it is. If there is a disaster in this country that he hasn't responded to, I don't know about it. He continues to do feeding ministries, and now they're ministering to women and girls who have been rescued from trafficking.
Tony: He has a heart for God, and God is using him. Now God is using him in Nepal. How did he get to Nepal? It had to do with his heart for girls and women who have been rescued from trafficking. That's a big issue in Nepal. There are people fighting that battle over there. He went to visit to see what was going on.
Tony: Just so we remember, on August 26 there was a glacier that basically broke off and slid down into a lake, which flooded down into a river. The videos were unbelievable to me. I thought it was AI. It looked like AI. It was such a disaster movie. But this is what Steve Tiber told us.
Steve Tiber: One of our national partners took me to a safe house for teenage girls rescued from trafficking. I was there a year ago in November, and when I left, part of my heart was left in Nepal.
Steve Tiber: In Nepal, about 1.6 percent of people are Christians. Over 82 percent are Hindu, a very dark religion.
Steve Tiber: What we're doing for about two weeks is raising funds with the commitment that anything given during these two weeks, 100 percent of it, will buy food for families affected by the horrific disaster in Nepal.
Steve Tiber: This is a Christian ministry. We're storing hope in Nepal. I know them, and I trust them. They're providing food today for 600 families in two different villages. They're using a church and people in Nepal, along with this ministry in Nepal.
Steve Tiber: If you give to Eight Days of Hope during these two weeks, all the money you give will go to help feed people in Nepal.
Host: What was interesting about this is that we didn't get to the story yesterday, Steve, so I'm glad you brought it back today. When you brought it up, we were asking you how in the world Steve Tiber got to the point where he had an avenue to help people in Nepal.
Host: The ministry of Eight Days of Hope absolutely depends on logistics. You have to be able to get building supplies to rebuild homes if there's been a big tornado somewhere. You have to have a way to get supplies to a place that has been devastated.
Host: You can't go down to Ace Hardware or Home Depot and just buy lumber because all of that has been affected by whatever disaster we're talking about.
Host: It's interesting that God provided the connections before the disaster so the logistics would fall into place when Eight Days of Hope showed up.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: Of course, they're not the only group that's helping. Samaritan's Purse is there as well. I've talked with them. Eight Days of Hope is providing money and food for the people.
Host: That's a God thing.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: Oh, that's a God thing setting that up. He knows the beginning and the end.
Host: Right. Only 1.6 percent of Nepal is Christian. Nepal is north of India, between India and China. It's a small country sandwiched between two big pieces of bread, folks. You take two big pieces of bread and put a cucumber in there, that's the size of Nepal.
Host: It's mountainous. The Himalayas are there. Mount Everest is in Nepal. In fact, this happened, I believe I saw, within 10 miles of Mount Everest, where everything started. Only 1.6 percent are Christian. That's astounding for us here in the West.
Host: By the way, God is using that, too. Hindus don't export their violence like radical Islam, but they can be very territorial, and they persecute Christians in India.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: Yeah, for sure. They kill and murder Christians as well. When groups like Eight Days of Hope show up to help in Jesus' name, it has a way of softening some of that hatred toward Jesus and God.
Host: There's no logical reason for Americans or people from other nationalities who might be working in Nepal through Eight Days of Hope and other groups. You mentioned Samaritan's Purse. There's no logical reason for them to be there helping.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: That's right. You go, "Why are you here?" The people from Nepal might say, "You don't live on the border. You don't want anything from us. Why are you here?"
Steve Paisley-Jordan: That's a supernatural work of God, that you care for people who aren't in your tribe, so to speak. That has got to speak volumes to people who haven't seen a lot of Christians.
Host: All right, well done to Steve Tiber and the folks at Eight Days of Hope. If you give this week to Eight Days of Hope, you, too, can participate in the ministry there.
Wesley: The ministry's website is EightDaysofHope.com, and it's "eight" spelled out.
Host: Either way, actually, we would win.
Wesley: Oh, it does, yeah.
Host: Okay, that's good. It probably reroutes you.
Wesley: It does reroute, yeah.
Host: Good. Go to EightDaysofHope.com, and you can read more details about their first trip to Nepal. This is one of the ministries that we've worked with since its inception.
Host: Your grandfather, Wesley, Brother Don Wildmon, founder of AFA and AFR, was one of the first to invest in that ministry.
Wesley: I think that was the seed money.
Host: It was the seed. It was the seed money.
Wesley: A pretty good chunk of change to help them during Katrina.
Host: I think this is one of the reasons why AFA has been blessed. God has blessed AFA because we can't help every ministry, but we do pitch in. We help ministries so they can fulfill their calling.
Wesley: Yeah, we pray as a staff and as a leadership team very frequently for God to expand our territory and to show us where we can help Christianity expand beyond our daily task.
Host: Right. Eight Days of Hope.
Wesley: Yeah, Truth for Youth, Bibles, Preborn, and other things, too. Nature Academy and Operation Christmas Child are ministries that we've believed in with great confidence. God has given us the opportunity, platform, and ability to support what they're doing.
Wesley: They're very niche ministries that we're not doing ourselves, so we support them.
Host: So, leading voices in the technology industry and in Washington are warning that someone needs to put the brakes on AI.
Host: The Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, and Hakeem Jeffries agree on this. CEOs Elon Musk, Sam Altman, and Dario Amodei from Anthropic all agree on this.
Host: There was a whistleblower out of Anthropic by the name of Jacob Kozon who recently made some waves, saying that AI was coming and that it had the potential to be what they're calling an extinction-level event.
Host: I talked to Bob McGinnis, who left the Pentagon as a Department of Defense analyst and went back to MIT and got some training in AI. He has written three books on AI, specializing in the biblical ramifications of what we're heading into.
Host: Anyway, this is what he had to say about AI and what needs to happen.
Bob McGinnis: We need some guardrails. We have none. This is not a problem that is going to get better with age. You should have done something 10 years ago. Now we have an emergency, and we have an AI war going on.
Bob McGinnis: We may be trending toward a Cold War like the one we negotiated with the Soviets. There are very significant similarities that we should not ignore. We went to the cliff and were looking over it, and the Soviets blinked. We may not be so fortunate the next time.
Host: This issue of AI is so serious. We're actually coming up to the end of the program here, and the stories that you brought, Steve, I don't want us to give them short shrift.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: Short shrift.
Host: So, tomorrow, unless something is breaking, let's lead off with your segment. We could still make some comments here this morning, but let's lead off your segment tomorrow.
Host: While we've got Tony here this week, I want us to talk a little bit more about AI. Bob McGinnis was talking about the race with China. Tomorrow, maybe we can talk more about some of these threats to humanity.
Host: I printed off a fascinating article. I'm not a technology guy. I know some things about technology just from having used an Apple computer for 30 years. The article is titled "The People Who Think AI Might Kill Us Are Building It Anyway."
Host: Tony, give us your take on this for the 60 seconds or whatever we have left. Your take from the interview with Bob McGinnis is that we're almost being forced into this race with China because we can't let them get ahead of us in case they checkmate us.
Host: This has a momentum of its own, doesn't it?
Tony: I'm not sure how you put the toothpaste back in the tube, but the toothpaste can grow into a big monster and eat everybody.
Tony: I'll give a quick comment because we'll save the meat of the conversation for tomorrow. First of all, it is a little bit of fearmongering, the idea that AI will cause the apocalypse. That idea is coming from people who, most of whom, don't believe in divine providence and don't believe in God.
Tony: God, obviously, his plans are not going to be interrupted by any disruptive technology. I do want to encourage people in that regard.
Tony: I do think we need to take it seriously, though, because, like the nuclear arms race, AGI, which is artificial general intelligence, is what China and the United States are rushing toward as fast as possible. That's what these CEOs were warning about.
Tony: We just don't know what the limitations would be once AGI comes to fruition. Basically, think about ChatGPT times a thousand. It's doing work before you ask it what to do.
Host: All right. We're going to explore this a little bit more tomorrow. Steve, remind me about that.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: We'll get that for folks.
Host: That's all the time we have for today. See you tomorrow.
Host: And welcome back. Ed Vitagliano is sitting in for Tim Wildmon this week. I'm joined in the studio by Wesley Wildmon and Tony Vitagliano. Chris Woodward has gone to his office, and he is replaced by Steve Paisley-Jordan, who joins us in the studio.
Host: Good morning, Steve.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: Hey, everybody.
Host: True to his moniker, he has one of the paisley shirts. That's one of the bright ones.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: I am donning a little paisley.
Host: That's not a little paisley. That's a lot of paisley.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: I'm going a lot.
Host: There's a little variation there.
Host: Well, that's a little Three Amigos there.
Host: All right, Steve.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: That's back when there was clean comedy with older people. It wouldn't have to be necessarily an animated film to be clean.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: My wife and Tony and I still carry on conversations with lines from that.
Host: Oh, yeah. My little buttercup and sweetness.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: Yeah.
Host: All right. We need to know. We ain't got it for a minute.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: No, I'm kidding.
Host: We've got stays prepared for us. Look up here. Look up here.
Host: Steve, have you ever seen it?
Host: We don't recommend movies on here, folks. I never know. I can't remember. What were you talking about?
Steve Paisley-Jordan: What's for Three Amigos?
Host: Oh, yeah. Martin Short, Chevy Chase.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: Yeah.
Host: Back in the day.
Host: So last hour, you guys were talking about how much the Democrats hate Donald Trump and will do anything they can do. Was it in the context of the $5,000 that may be coming?
Host: No, we had not talked about the beautiful $5,000 present that we would get. Donald Trump is doubling down, saying the $5,000 is coming. There's a disagreement. That's not why I bring it up. I bring it up to show you how much Democrats hate Donald Trump.
Host: So back in May, you remember that the courts awarded about $1.7 billion to the Trump administration for aggressively suing the people who maliciously sued Donald Trump?
Host: He got a bunch of money, right? And Donald Trump said that he would give it to anybody who had been maliciously sued, that he would share it with anybody who had been maliciously sued. That might include January 6 defendants and everyone.
Host: Well, back in May, Gavin Newsom decided he wasn't going to have any of that. This is how much they hate Donald Trump. Listen to what he said.
Gavin Newsom: The thing that I think we're going to try to do with your support is tax 100 percent anyone from California that receives any of those funds. We want to tax 100 percent of those proceeds. That's an action the state of California can take, and it's an action we look forward to taking.
Host: I don't think that's legal. I don't think you can use taxes to target people for their political views.
Host: In other words, it would wind up in federal court. Who knows how that turns out? Just because it's not constitutional doesn't mean that federal judges won't ignore that. But Newsom said he would tax 100 percent of anything Californians got from Donald Trump. That's how much they hate the man.
Host: I just was kind of affirming what you guys had talked about.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: Also, Gavin Newsom says, "Please, megacorporations, don't leave us. California is a great place to visit. Please stop leaving for Texas. Please."
Host: Well, you know, we've mentioned countless times that it's been more than 10 years since Donald Trump came down the elevator and said he was running for president. We've played many times the brainiacs on news channels who laughed at the thought that he could become president.
Host: He has been mercilessly attacked in the media, in court, and by the intelligence community. We go on and on and on. I've honestly never seen anything like the hatred that has landed on Donald Trump's head since 2015.
Host: I've paid attention to politics since I was in the seventh grade, and that's a long time ago for me. I pay attention to it, and I like history.
Host: In terms of our country, I'm not sure. Maybe I'm going to say something that sounds like something Donald Trump would say. We all know he considers himself the best, greatest president ever, by his own admission. He's pretty great. I'm about to compare him to Abraham Lincoln.
Host: Was Abraham Lincoln hated that much by the slaveholding states? I'm sure historians and political science experts will, over the years to come, lay out their explanations for why he has been such a lightning rod. But it is just a fact of politics that the man has been hated like nobody in my lifetime.
Tony: In 2017 and 2025, these numbers can be carried over and extrapolated because the pattern continues. These are hard numbers. In 2017, during President Trump's first 100 days in office, 92 percent of all news outlets, local and national, had negative coverage of President Trump.
Tony: In 2025, it was 93 percent. During his first 100 days in office in his second term, 93 percent of news coverage highlighted the most negative spin on whatever he did. That's never been done. The closest thing was 60 percent for another president, but it wasn't even in the ballpark.
Host: So it's a 30-point difference.
Tony: That covers local and national outlets. That's the 92 percent from the study and then 93 percent in 2025.
Host: That's right. And that's with Fox News in existence, the New York Post, and other alternative conservative media. It's still that high a percentage.
Tony: I'm just going to do a quick rapid fire on a few things that come to mind. I don't have any notes in front of me, but how many presidents have been rated at their own home right by the FBI?
Host: Yeah. Well, how many presidents have had three assassination attempts in a two- or three-year span?
Tony: Got shot.
Host: And then people said he was faking it.
Tony: Yes, there was the hit on his ear. In spite of some pretty big failures, in particular big failures with the economy and the war in his second term, and in spite of the fact that you can't defend some of the things he says, or, I'm sorry, not the things, but how he says things, he will still go down as one of the top three or four most conservative policy presidents of all time. He has accomplished more than maybe anybody in my lifetime except for Reagan.
Tony: Let me just end with this. I could talk about this for a while because I'm a big proponent of what he's done. I support President Trump and 97 percent of what he does. Let me say this, too. In addition to that, when people complain about what he's not able to do, you understand that he is at the mercy of executive orders now.
Host: Yeah.
Tony: I mean, that's what he has to do. A lot of people in D.C. don't do anything. Even his own political party is as much to blame as anybody for getting stuff done because he's down to executive orders.
Tony: By the way, look at that first week of him in office in 2025. Colleges and academics across the United States were doing away with their DEI programs as a direct result of him signing the executive orders. His executive orders say men can't play in women's sports. I mean, he is closing down the border.
Tony: The alternative is Kamala Harris, okay? So, when we constructively criticize a few things, like I'm critical of still being at war, and that's a problem for me, and the economy is not any better, I have problems with that. But I unify around the movement to be sustainable for the future because we've got a couple of things wrong here.
Tony: If you add Biden and Kamala back to back, it would have been the end of the republic. That's why God is sparing us and giving us an opportunity.
Tony: We're going to keep fighting. AFA, AFA Action, ADF, those are just a couple that come to mind, but there are other local and state family policy groups. There's plenty of them. There's also a growing trend on social media platforms of more conservative pastors speaking up.
Tony: There's a guy in Texas. I forget his name. He's a younger guy. Jeff Struecker? No. Well, Jeff is there. There's another one. I'll think of his name in a minute. But we're making some ground. Those are just some things I think about when I think about President Trump.
Wesley: Yeah, absolutely. I agree with you. I think about all the presidents who said they would bring the U.S. Embassy back to Jerusalem. Who actually did it? Donald Trump. He put his money where his mouth is.
Wesley: He appointed three Supreme Court justices who eventually overturned Roe v. Wade. That was Donald Trump.
Tony: I've never thought that would happen in my lifetime.
Wesley: Honestly, if you asked a lot of Christians and those who had been involved in the pro-life fight, I'm sure many of them would have said, based on the trajectory of the nation and the view of the issue, "We just never thought it would happen." But it did.
Tony: Thank you.
Host: All right, I kind of meant that to be hit and run. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to take all the time.
Host: Oh, listen, that was a good conversation. We need to have that periodically and give credit where credit is due. What have you got next?
Tony: The latest numbers out of the poll are appalling. As of September 15, 1,386 deaths have been confirmed, 5,100 people are still missing, and more than 11,000 have been rescued.
Tony: The reason I'm bringing this up is because, for the first time in its history, Eight Days of Hope is ministering in Nepal. I had a chance to talk to Steve Tiber, the founder and president of Eight Days of Hope.
Tony: I have to tell you, if that man is busier, I don't know who it is. If there is a disaster in this country that he hasn't responded to, I don't know about it. He continues to do feeding ministries, and now they're ministering to women and girls who have been rescued from trafficking.
Tony: He has a heart for God, and God is using him. Now God is using him in Nepal. How did he get to Nepal? It had to do with his heart for girls and women who have been rescued from trafficking. That's a big issue in Nepal. There are people fighting that battle over there. He went to visit to see what was going on.
Tony: Just so we remember, on August 26 there was a glacier that basically broke off and slid down into a lake, which flooded down into a river. The videos were unbelievable to me. I thought it was AI. It looked like AI. It was such a disaster movie. But this is what Steve Tiber told us.
Steve Tiber: One of our national partners took me to a safe house for teenage girls rescued from trafficking. I was there a year ago in November, and when I left, part of my heart was left in Nepal.
Steve Tiber: In Nepal, about 1.6 percent of people are Christians. Over 82 percent are Hindu, a very dark religion.
Steve Tiber: What we're doing for about two weeks is raising funds with the commitment that anything given during these two weeks, 100 percent of it, will buy food for families affected by the horrific disaster in Nepal.
Steve Tiber: This is a Christian ministry. We're storing hope in Nepal. I know them, and I trust them. They're providing food today for 600 families in two different villages. They're using a church and people in Nepal, along with this ministry in Nepal.
Steve Tiber: If you give to Eight Days of Hope during these two weeks, all the money you give will go to help feed people in Nepal.
Host: What was interesting about this is that we didn't get to the story yesterday, Steve, so I'm glad you brought it back today. When you brought it up, we were asking you how in the world Steve Tiber got to the point where he had an avenue to help people in Nepal.
Host: The ministry of Eight Days of Hope absolutely depends on logistics. You have to be able to get building supplies to rebuild homes if there's been a big tornado somewhere. You have to have a way to get supplies to a place that has been devastated.
Host: You can't go down to Ace Hardware or Home Depot and just buy lumber because all of that has been affected by whatever disaster we're talking about.
Host: It's interesting that God provided the connections before the disaster so the logistics would fall into place when Eight Days of Hope showed up.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: Of course, they're not the only group that's helping. Samaritan's Purse is there as well. I've talked with them. Eight Days of Hope is providing money and food for the people.
Host: That's a God thing.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: Oh, that's a God thing setting that up. He knows the beginning and the end.
Host: Right. Only 1.6 percent of Nepal is Christian. Nepal is north of India, between India and China. It's a small country sandwiched between two big pieces of bread, folks. You take two big pieces of bread and put a cucumber in there, that's the size of Nepal.
Host: It's mountainous. The Himalayas are there. Mount Everest is in Nepal. In fact, this happened, I believe I saw, within 10 miles of Mount Everest, where everything started. Only 1.6 percent are Christian. That's astounding for us here in the West.
Host: By the way, God is using that, too. Hindus don't export their violence like radical Islam, but they can be very territorial, and they persecute Christians in India.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: Yeah, for sure. They kill and murder Christians as well. When groups like Eight Days of Hope show up to help in Jesus' name, it has a way of softening some of that hatred toward Jesus and God.
Host: There's no logical reason for Americans or people from other nationalities who might be working in Nepal through Eight Days of Hope and other groups. You mentioned Samaritan's Purse. There's no logical reason for them to be there helping.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: That's right. You go, "Why are you here?" The people from Nepal might say, "You don't live on the border. You don't want anything from us. Why are you here?"
Steve Paisley-Jordan: That's a supernatural work of God, that you care for people who aren't in your tribe, so to speak. That has got to speak volumes to people who haven't seen a lot of Christians.
Host: All right, well done to Steve Tiber and the folks at Eight Days of Hope. If you give this week to Eight Days of Hope, you, too, can participate in the ministry there.
Wesley: The ministry's website is EightDaysofHope.com, and it's "eight" spelled out.
Host: Either way, actually, we would win.
Wesley: Oh, it does, yeah.
Host: Okay, that's good. It probably reroutes you.
Wesley: It does reroute, yeah.
Host: Good. Go to EightDaysofHope.com, and you can read more details about their first trip to Nepal. This is one of the ministries that we've worked with since its inception.
Host: Your grandfather, Wesley, Brother Don Wildmon, founder of AFA and AFR, was one of the first to invest in that ministry.
Wesley: I think that was the seed money.
Host: It was the seed. It was the seed money.
Wesley: A pretty good chunk of change to help them during Katrina.
Host: I think this is one of the reasons why AFA has been blessed. God has blessed AFA because we can't help every ministry, but we do pitch in. We help ministries so they can fulfill their calling.
Wesley: Yeah, we pray as a staff and as a leadership team very frequently for God to expand our territory and to show us where we can help Christianity expand beyond our daily task.
Host: Right. Eight Days of Hope.
Wesley: Yeah, Truth for Youth, Bibles, Preborn, and other things, too. Nature Academy and Operation Christmas Child are ministries that we've believed in with great confidence. God has given us the opportunity, platform, and ability to support what they're doing.
Wesley: They're very niche ministries that we're not doing ourselves, so we support them.
Host: So, leading voices in the technology industry and in Washington are warning that someone needs to put the brakes on AI.
Host: The Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, and Hakeem Jeffries agree on this. CEOs Elon Musk, Sam Altman, and Dario Amodei from Anthropic all agree on this.
Host: There was a whistleblower out of Anthropic by the name of Jacob Kozon who recently made some waves, saying that AI was coming and that it had the potential to be what they're calling an extinction-level event.
Host: I talked to Bob McGinnis, who left the Pentagon as a Department of Defense analyst and went back to MIT and got some training in AI. He has written three books on AI, specializing in the biblical ramifications of what we're heading into.
Host: Anyway, this is what he had to say about AI and what needs to happen.
Bob McGinnis: We need some guardrails. We have none. This is not a problem that is going to get better with age. You should have done something 10 years ago. Now we have an emergency, and we have an AI war going on.
Bob McGinnis: We may be trending toward a Cold War like the one we negotiated with the Soviets. There are very significant similarities that we should not ignore. We went to the cliff and were looking over it, and the Soviets blinked. We may not be so fortunate the next time.
Host: This issue of AI is so serious. We're actually coming up to the end of the program here, and the stories that you brought, Steve, I don't want us to give them short shrift.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: Short shrift.
Host: So, tomorrow, unless something is breaking, let's lead off with your segment. We could still make some comments here this morning, but let's lead off your segment tomorrow.
Host: While we've got Tony here this week, I want us to talk a little bit more about AI. Bob McGinnis was talking about the race with China. Tomorrow, maybe we can talk more about some of these threats to humanity.
Host: I printed off a fascinating article. I'm not a technology guy. I know some things about technology just from having used an Apple computer for 30 years. The article is titled "The People Who Think AI Might Kill Us Are Building It Anyway."
Host: Tony, give us your take on this for the 60 seconds or whatever we have left. Your take from the interview with Bob McGinnis is that we're almost being forced into this race with China because we can't let them get ahead of us in case they checkmate us.
Host: This has a momentum of its own, doesn't it?
Tony: I'm not sure how you put the toothpaste back in the tube, but the toothpaste can grow into a big monster and eat everybody.
Tony: I'll give a quick comment because we'll save the meat of the conversation for tomorrow. First of all, it is a little bit of fearmongering, the idea that AI will cause the apocalypse. That idea is coming from people who, most of whom, don't believe in divine providence and don't believe in God.
Tony: God, obviously, his plans are not going to be interrupted by any disruptive technology. I do want to encourage people in that regard.
Tony: I do think we need to take it seriously, though, because, like the nuclear arms race, AGI, which is artificial general intelligence, is what China and the United States are rushing toward as fast as possible. That's what these CEOs were warning about.
Tony: We just don't know what the limitations would be once AGI comes to fruition. Basically, think about ChatGPT times a thousand. It's doing work before you ask it what to do.
Host: All right. We're going to explore this a little bit more tomorrow. Steve, remind me about that.
Steve Paisley-Jordan: We'll get that for folks.
Host: That's all the time we have for today. See you tomorrow.
The panel considers warnings from technology leaders and Bob McGinnis that artificial intelligence needs guardrails, while discussing the risks of an unchecked race toward artificial general intelligence. The conversation also addresses those concerns from a Christian perspective, emphasizing God's providence and human responsibility.
Steve Tybor of Eight Days of Hope describes the ministry's first relief work in Nepal following a devastating disaster, including food assistance for affected families and ministry among a small Christian community. The hosts discuss how practical relief can open doors for gospel witness.
The program also includes a discussion of President Donald Trump's conservative record, media coverage, executive orders, and the Supreme Court's overturning of Roe v. Wade.
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