Host: Hey, good morning, everybody. Welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Today is Wednesday, September 23, 2026. As always, we thank you for listening to Today's Issues and the American Family Radio Network.

Host: This is live radio, so you never know when we're going to slip up and say something.

Fred: Never.

Host: Fresh action. Good morning, Fred.

Fred: Good morning, Tim.

Host: Steve Dordal, good morning, Steve.

Steve: Good morning, everybody.

Host: Sitting in for Chris Woodward today, huh?

Steve: Chris is on assignment.

Host: And so you have little shoes to fill.

Steve: Oh, that was totally on.

Host: See what I'm saying? I've offended my brother, Chris. Although there's nothing necessarily inherently wrong with little or small shoes, right?

Steve: I suppose.

Host: Hey, Ray Richard.

Ray: Hey, Tim. How are you doing today?

Host: Good. You probably wear a size 13, don't you there, Ray?

Ray: Fourteen.

Host: Fourteen. I was guessing right. Wow. Ray used to be six-four, six-five. What are you now, about six-three?

Ray: They say you shrink when you get older.

Host: I don't know if it's true.

Ray: It's true. Things have a way of compressing. It's just a fact for you. It's a bone and muscular thing.

Host: Yeah, it is. That's okay, though. It happens to all of us if you live long enough, right? We're waiting for our heavenly bodies.

Steve: There you go. For most of my adult life, I thought I was six-two, and then I measured myself when I was about 55. I'm six-three, without socks or shoes. Growing. I must have had a growth spurt at 45.

Host: Do you know who it was? Michael Jordan, the famous basketball player. I want to say, and I think I have the story straight, when he was in ninth or tenth grade, he was five-ten.

Steve: Yeah.

Host: And I think he got cut from the basketball team, or barely made it, or something.

Steve: That's true. No, he got cut.

Host: He got cut. Michael Jordan got cut. Then, within a year or a year and a half, he shot up to six-six, which was his height when he played.

Steve: Boy.

Host: Can you believe this? There's got to be a story there. What were you eating?

Steve: I don't know. You grow five or six inches in a year or a year and a half? That's amazing.

Host: But anyway, Michael Jordan. You talk about a story that coaches can use to inspire their players. Did you know Michael Jordan got cut? You, too, can...

Steve: No, you can't.

Host: There's no potential you can reach that will make you the greatest basketball player in history.

Steve: All right.

Host: But we're going to cut you anyway.

Steve: Right, right.

Host: I'll never forget. I tried to play the cello. This is well documented here on this show. I've mentioned it before.

Steve: Did you know this, Fred?

Fred: I've never heard this.

Host: Yeah, I played the cello. I took up the cello, I think, in fifth grade. For those who don't know, it's a musical instrument. They came and did a strings program for our school. They tried to recruit people to play the violin, the viola, and the cello.

Steve: Those are the main three.

Host: I thought the viola would be the other one, or the bass.

Steve: The viola is a larger violin. A cello is one that sits on the ground, and you hold it between your legs. The bass is the tall, big, huge one you see.

Host: Yeah, I know these things. That was in the string program.

Steve: Of course.

Host: You want to tell me what a car is?

Steve: No. You almost made it to the New York Tiffany. I hear that has four wheels.

Host: What now? Where are we?

Steve: You played the cello.

Host: Oh, yeah. I played the cello for about two years. I liked playing. I just wasn't big on practicing.

Steve: You relate to that, don't you?

Host: What instrument did you play? You played in the band, didn't you?

Steve: Yeah, I was in the band.

Host: What instrument did you play?

Steve: The trombone.

Host: The king of all instruments, the trombone?

Steve: Is that the one that you take out with your arm?

Host: Yeah, that's right. So, anyway, finally the instructor or conductor told me that I needed to quit.

Steve: He didn't break it easy to me, either.

Host: It was like, "Wildmon, Tim, you need to find something else, maybe basketball or something, but it ain't the cello."

Steve: I don't think he said it like that.

Host: He said it in a more dignified way. But anyway, I moved on from that.

Steve: To golf.

Host: Golf came 30 years later.

Steve: You can't golf with small children.

Host: You can go out there three times a year if you want and whack a white ball around, but you can't play with any consistency, have small children, and have a happy wife. I'll tell you that right now, because golf takes time to play. Anyway, you played an instrument?

Steve: I sang. I did the vocal track all through high school and college.

Host: Oh, yes, right. You were in the choir.

Steve: I was in choir. I'm past the degree of voice.

Host: Of course. All right, Fred. We've never known the answer to this question. Did Fred Jackson ever play an instrument?

Fred: No. I took up the hockey stick.

Host: There you go. Sitting there slapping the violin string around, you started a hockey stick around.

Fred: That's right. I got a few penalties for slapping up the plate.

Host: While the rest of us were trying to add peace and tranquility to the world, Fred was whacking his neighbor with a hockey stick.

Host: So how far did the trombone take you, Ray?

Ray: You know, I made it out of high school.

Host: Did you get a scholarship offer at a college?

Ray: No. I got a scholarship offer if I wouldn't play my trombone.

Host: So you're saying you didn't practice much?

Ray: A little bit. I practiced. I played it all through high school, and I got as good as you can get if you practice once a week.

Host: Right. There's a limitation there.

Ray: I think I played my trombone twice in the three years after I graduated from high school. In the 50 years since then, it's long gone.

Host: With a trombone, how do you pronounce it exactly?

Ray: Trombone.

Host: Trombone.

Host: Other than a marching band, where is that instrument really required or demanded?

Ray: In concert bands.

Host: In Chicago, the band Chicago?

Ray: Yes.

Host: Oh, okay.

Ray: That's a trombone.

Host: Okay. I know trumpets are big, and any kind of saxophone is big. Did you audition for Chicago?

Ray: Yes, but it got lost in the mail.

Host: They are a big horn band, aren't they? Chicago. Power, power.

Steve: Chicago, and there are a couple of others.

Host: Earth, Wind and Fire.

Steve: Earth, Wind and Fire is another one.

Host: All right. You're listening to music today with your crew here. I'd like to talk about what is going on in the world. Jenna Ellis will be with us at the bottom of the hour. We have no idea if Jenna played an instrument or not. We should ask her.

Host: What's your first story, Steve?

Steve: It is a world leader week at the United Nations. I don't know if that's what they call it, but that's what I'm calling it. Yesterday, we heard from President Trump. He gave a speech to the world and talked a lot about Iran and the leadership that he's provided.

Steve: In the next couple of days, Xi Jinping arrives. The president and dictator of China is landing here in New York to attend the United Nations. Also today, Benjamin Netanyahu is going to be landing. He's landing in New Jersey, and we could talk a little bit about that. But let's start with Xi Jinping coming.

Host: Is he going to speak at the United Nations?

Steve: He will be speaking at the United Nations, I believe.

Host: Before he does that, he's coming to the United Nations, and President Trump has said he's going to go out and meet him at the airport, which is kind of an unusual move for the president.

Host: Excuse me for interrupting here, but I was misunderstanding. I thought the president of China was going to be in Washington, D.C.

Steve: He's going to be in both. There's the United Nations event, but then there's the summit. Remember when Trump went to China a few months ago? We were told that in a couple of months Xi Jinping would make a Washington visit. That is going on, and that's probably going to get the most attention, his meeting with Trump.

Host: Normally, when we see world leaders come to visit with President Trump, President Trump waits at a main door there at the White House, and the limousines arrive with the leaders. But this time, President Trump is going to the airport to meet Xi Jinping at the airport.

Steve: Probably Andrews Air Force Base, maybe.

Host: Yes. This is highly unusual, and some people are wondering why President Trump is doing this, because they are not big fans of the Chinese Communist Party, which Xi Jinping heads. One of those people is Mississippi Senator Roger Wicker. He's the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Host: It's very unusual for Senator Wicker to be critical of President Trump, but yesterday Senator Wicker got up on the Senate floor and made his feelings known about playing host and being nice to the Chinese Communist leaders. We want to play a little bit of that speech from Senator Wicker for you.

Senator Roger Wicker: Quite frankly, had the White House asked me for advice, I would have suggested the president not invite Xi Jinping to Washington for such a lavish welcome here in the United States of America. But, Mr. President, during every minute of dialogue, our commander in chief should keep in mind that his guest is a brutal, unelected, and oppressive dictator who seeks to dominate his neighbors, and whose massive military arsenal is aimed directly at the United States of America.

Host: As I say, it is very unusual for Senator Wicker to be so open and so critical of the president. He was criticizing this lavish welcome for a communist leader who many people would say is no friend of the United States.

Host: Let me correct my record here. You were right. Xi Jinping will not be speaking. The vice president of China, Han Zheng, will be attending the United Nations while Xi is in Washington with the president. So Xi is visiting Washington, D.C.

Steve: Xi, the president of communist China.

Host: Xi. It is spelled X-I. I pronounced it "she," like she went to the store.

Steve: I kind of went down the internet.

Host: I fully understand and appreciate what Senator Wicker is saying there. Sometimes it is a fine line between being cordial and welcoming and being over the top, without a full appreciation of what Senator Wicker is saying: that this man is a brutal dictator over more than a billion people in a communist, totalitarian state.

Steve: Any United States president, going back to Richard Nixon, has really opened the dialogue with communist China. You cannot just go out and throw a pie in the face of the guy.

Host: No.

Steve: But at the same time, President Trump is taking the unusual step of going out to greet him at the airport, when he normally welcomes foreign leaders at the White House. So he is saying that this is a special man and a special visit.

Host: How do you balance that?

Steve: I agree 100 percent with the tone and spirit of what Senator Wicker said. He is absolutely right in the way he characterized Mr. Xi. Everything he said is right. He is a brutal, unelected dictator who keeps more than a billion people in bondage. Senator Wicker did not say this, but it is also true that his government has severely persecuted Christians, especially pastors. All of that is true.

Steve: On the other side, there are countries and there are countries. Peru is one thing, and Finland is one thing. China is something else. China is hugely important. They are a superpower.

Host: This is part two of a summit that took place when Mr. Trump went over to China. It is a special, unusual occasion. My heart is with Senator Wicker, but I understand completely why the president is going to meet him at the airport. That is what you do when you are having a summit with the leader of another superpower.

Host: Senator Wicker is not the only one very concerned about this visit from the Chinese leader. Arkansas Republican Senator Tom Cotton had much the same thing to say yesterday about this visit from President Xi.

Senator Tom Cotton: We need to make it clear we will not tolerate China stealing our AI models the way they have cheated so much in the last several decades, or stealing from our farmers and factory workers. We are not going to send them the most advanced semiconductor chips, and they should not be diverting them. They need to stop threatening their neighbors like Taiwan and Japan, and we are going to stand with those neighbors. They also need to stop persecuting their own citizens, for example, Christians inside China or other ethnic and religious minorities.

Senator Tom Cotton: We need to stand with Taiwan. We need to continue to support Taiwan's military. The surest way to avoid a conflict over Taiwan with China is to help Taiwan be able to defend itself, so China will not be tempted to go for the jugular. We need to stand with Taiwan, just like we need to stand with our other allies in the Western Pacific, Japan and the Philippines, both treaty allies that are threatened routinely by Chinese aggression.

Host: Steve, anything else to add to this?

Steve: On the list of discussions they are going to have, in addition to Taiwan and all the things mentioned there, is artificial intelligence. One of the concerns is who is going to lead the world in AI. Whoever leads the world in AI has a huge advantage economically, as far as power, and technologically, obviously. It is a battle between the United States and China.

Steve: The United States is ahead as far as the technology goes, but China has a habit of stealing all the technology that the United States comes up with, and they are close on its heels. In fact, Secretary of State Marco Rubio had something to say about that competition.

Secretary Marco Rubio: No one wants to be hurt by AI, but no one wants to be left behind by it either. The challenge here is how do you stay up? How do you lead on it? They want to lead on it, but so do we. We have to do it in a way that does not cause harm, anticipated or otherwise. That is the tension that we are feeling globally, and certainly we will have to figure this out. It is a tough issue.

Host: Raise your hand if you have no idea what happens with artificial intelligence. I am seeing a lot of hands out there across America. Do you think Trump will tell Xi how artificial his intelligence is?

Steve: You think he is going to tell him that?

Host: Anything is likely to come out of that man's mouth.

Host: I think I speak for our audience, with the exception of people who are experts in computer science or who are well read on this subject, which is hard to read about and understand. Artificial intelligence, and what Secretary Rubio is talking about there, to me, is the cat out of the bag. The horse is out of the barn. You are not going to regulate this, even by a law passed by the United States Congress and signed by President Trump. This is an international technological advancement that has already gone. It is already out there and already moving. I do not know what he is talking about. I do not know what you can do about this at this point, or if we have the opportunity to understand it.

Steve: What they are worried about is that AI can also advance itself.

Host: That is what I am saying. How are you going to stop that?

Steve: There is a race toward what is called artificial general intelligence. That is the point where it becomes more intelligent or supersedes the capabilities of humans. That is what they are worried about.

Steve: I keep asking anybody I talk to when I am reporting on this, do you believe in a Star Trek future or a Terminator future? In the Terminator future, AI comes and destroys the world. In the Star Trek future, AI comes and creates a panacea where everything is solved, we do not need money anymore, and all that kind of stuff.

Host: Give me a paragraph on what artificial intelligence is and what it does.

Steve: Artificial intelligence is a collection of computers that have scoured the internet and have all of the data of the world's knowledge in these data farms. They have almost immediate access to any fact and figure that you want. They have learned how to put those together in some kind of intelligent way. We say intelligence, but it is artificial. If you ask it a question, it can not only give you the number of people in China, but it can tell you an opinion. It is basically an average of all the opinions on the internet about what China will do with those people, for example.

Steve: It impersonates a person. It looks like intelligence because it has access to all of the data and programs itself. It looks at everything on the internet and takes an average of what is out there.

Host: But somebody created it.

Steve: They created it, but it is like you can buy a dog, and when you start feeding it and it starts growing, if it gets aggressive, you do not necessarily have control over it.

Host: Like Frankenstein?

Steve: Yes.

Steve: But I think, Tim, to your point, it is not going to be regulated. The Trump administration has been talking about putting guardrails on AI. That is not going to happen.

Host: No.

Steve: If it is controlled by the United States alone, maybe you could enforce some of that, but this is worldwide. China does not care what Trump signs here in the United States.

Steve: I have been talking with our friend Bob McGinnis about this. He has written three books and was a Pentagon official. I have written one.

Host: He has got three. He has got two on you.

Steve: I defer to him. He says we are headed toward another Cold War like we had with Russia, with mutually assured destruction. It is a little trickier with computers, but we are going to start having a Cold War type of relationship with China regarding AI. That is his best guess of where this is going and how it is going to be controlled.

Host: Brad, any comment on this?

Guest: I try to bring a biblical perspective to this. When you talk about Bible prophecy, the book of Revelation talks about the beast and the Antichrist. It talks about the point where the whole world is going to fall down and worship an image of the beast.

Guest: I think it is connected to AI. I think we are entering the realm of technical possibility that, when we used to read Revelation, we would question how the whole world or how the Antichrist would know that everybody was going to bow down and worship. I think we now have the technology in place that will allow that to happen.

Host: I can see how that fits into Bible prophecy. I do not want to use AI, though. If AI pops up and you have to log in with 666, I am going to encourage people to avoid that.

Host: We will be back momentarily with more of Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening. Jenna Ellis will be with us in a few minutes.

Host: Hey, welcome back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for listening to AFR. I am Tim with Fred, Steve, and Ray. Joining us now from Florida is Jenna Ellis.

Jenna Ellis: Good morning. It is great to be with you guys.

Host: You sent me a picture the other day. Was that your family visiting you, or were you back in Colorado?

Jenna Ellis: I was back in Colorado this past weekend. My little brother, as some listeners know, got married in August up in Maine, where his wife is from. We went up there for the wedding, but some of our West Coast family and people from our home church in Colorado could not make it up there. They had a wedding reception at our church in Colorado this past weekend. We had an extended family get-together and reunion, so it was a really good time.

Host: Did the pastor in Maine say two months ago that the reception would be in September in Colorado and invite you as a couple?

Jenna Ellis: I do not remember that entirely, but it was actually their campus pastor because they met at Liberty University as college students. Their campus pastor came up from Virginia to Maine to marry them, and it was a really sweet time.

Host: Wonderful. We have all been over our musical backgrounds. I played the cello for two years. Ray was in the marching band in high school playing the trombone. Steve sang, and Fred played the hockey stick. Do you have any musical background?

Jenna Ellis: I do. I took piano lessons all growing up. I am very rusty at it currently, but I play piano and sing. I actually really loved playing piano.

Host: That is a smart, small instrument. Are you near the piano now?

Jenna Ellis: I do not have one in my little office. This is actually a closet office, which is now my media room. One of my uncles is in that picture of our family reunion. He used to say that he had a closet office because they turned his closet into an office. This was way back before anybody worked at home, but he was the one who did. So now I have a closet office.

Host: But no piano in the house is what you are saying.

Jenna Ellis: That is right.

Host: We are going to talk about the Massachusetts story for a minute. What happened? We do not want this kind of thing to become normal and spread across the country. What are we talking about that is going on in this very blue state of Massachusetts?

Jenna Ellis: I think we have a clip to play as well, so I will defer to the clip first.

Host: This is Massachusetts Governor Maura Healey describing a program called Welcome Family. They are going to send a representative around to everybody who has a child in Massachusetts to do a home visit, which is what is concerning.

Governor Maura Healey: We went over to Beth Israel Deaconess and met with moms and providers there. We made an announcement that we are investing more in maternal health and expanding access for moms, parents, and families to needed care.

Governor Maura Healey: Here is what I said. Everybody in the state, when you have a baby, you are going to have a home visit. You are going to have a home visit within days or weeks, and that will be an opportunity for a health care provider to make an assessment and see if you need some additional support and resources.

Governor Maura Healey: We also made more investments in training health care professionals, doctors, and others on how they can identify signs of postpartum depression and also prepare women before birth. There is a lot of talk during pregnancy about care of the baby and care of yourself during pregnancy, but there is not enough talk about what it is like after birth. Having those conversations earlier makes sure people know that resources are available.

Host: That was the governor of Massachusetts.

Jenna Ellis: You got it.

Host: Is this in response to the Lindsay Clancy situation? What is going on?

Jenna Ellis: This is in response to that. This is one instance where bad facts make bad law, and we say that all the time in the legal sphere. This is basically the response to the Lindsay Clancy trial, saying that she did not get the care and oversight for postpartum issues that she needed.

Jenna Ellis: This is framed as providing more resources and prevention, which in theory sounds good. I have even heard friends who have recently had a baby say that doctors want you to come in weekly, they do all of these tests, and they do everything. Then, as soon as you have the baby, they say, "All right, good luck," and send you home. They would agree that more resources, understanding, and access to those resources might be helpful for women.

Jenna Ellis: But the problem is that Governor Healey is using this opportunity to say that everyone who has a baby will be visited in their home by a government-appointed health care provider to make an assessment. An assessment of what? What if you do not pass?

Jenna Ellis: This is where the conservative proposition, and what we have always said about law, comes in. One or two individuals who break the law do not create a general rule that everyone is suspect and must prove fitness in order to live in society.

Jenna Ellis: That is basically what the governor is proposing: If you have a baby, the government has the right to come in, send a health care worker to your home, and make an assessment. What if they suggest different treatments and things? Can you decline? There are so many potential issues here that conservatives are saying absolutely not.

Host: I am being told that in some corners this is optional, but it did not sound optional or voluntary in that clip. Do you have a clarification of that?

Jenna Ellis: The governor's words were that you will be visited. That does not sound voluntary to me. She may clarify that in the proposal that is coming out, and this is why it is important to get those clarifications. I am not sure that we know at this point.

Ray: Jenna, suppose you have just had a baby and you are taking care of the baby. Everything is okay, but it is chaotic. Maybe you have two or three other kids, and life with kids and a newborn is a little bit chaotic. It is hard to keep things straight and hard to get everything picked up. You are doing fine, but you are exhausted. Then comes the knock at the door. Somebody is there from the state. What exactly are they looking for when they come inside?

Jenna Ellis: That is a really good question. Are they making an assessment of your parenting skills, your home environment, the way that you choose to raise your children, whether you have a Christian worldview, or whether you choose to homeschool? What are they making an assessment of?

Jenna Ellis: Are they suggesting that if you are more prone, based on whatever their metric is, to having postpartum depression or psychosis, your children will be temporarily taken into state custody? We do not know any of these things, and I do not want the government making an assessment of whether I am a fit parent.

Jenna Ellis: If something happens like Lindsay Clancy, then the government absolutely can and should punish those actions. But they do not make an assessment before the action. That has been a hallmark of our justice system, along with our constitutionally protected rights under the Fourth Amendment against unreasonable searches and seizures. This raises a lot of Fourth Amendment questions. The government does not have the right to come in and make an assessment of anything.

Host: People on the left, liberals, and Democrats will look at us talking about this and say, "These people do not care about public safety. They do not care about helping people with postpartum issues. They are just paranoid about government overreach or taking your children."

Jenna Ellis: The simple answer is that if Massachusetts really wants to offer these things, then make them widely available and say that people can voluntarily participate in the program. It needs to be voluntary. It should not be that a government-appointed health care provider is going to visit your home whether you want it or not.

Jenna Ellis: This is the camel's nose under the tent. In the name of public safety and preventing what happened with Lindsay Clancy from happening again, the government would go into everybody's home and counsel them if they have had a baby.

Host: This is from a press release from the governor's office. It says that during a visit, nurses can help with breastfeeding and newborn care, screen for mental health concerns and substance use, connect families with health care and social supports, and provide referrals for needed services, including domestic violence, food access, and other community resources. Nurses follow up with caregivers by phone two or three weeks later to make sure they were able to connect with the services.

Jenna Ellis: That is fine if it is voluntary. If you can say, "No, thank you. I appreciate you coming by."

Host: Or, "Do not come by."

Jenna Ellis: I can see a story not too long from now where a parent says, "No, thank you. I do not want a visit," and the state makes that person suspect. They are on a list somewhere. They are flagged. Then they come in for some kind of health care visit later, when their child is sick or has been in an accident, and suddenly the state is looking at them for potential domestic issues because they declined the visit.

Jenna Ellis: There are so many implications. Do not forget that the Biden administration labeled traditional Catholics as domestic terror threats. What if somebody goes into your home and sees a rosary bead or something like that?

Jenna Ellis: This is where what is framed as a good idea to address a problem becomes so overbroad that it is not within the limited scope of what government can legitimately interfere with in terms of our freedom and our right to be secure in our homes and our families.

Host: Changing topics, who is going to win Florida's races? You have two big statewide races, right? You have the Senate race and the governor's race. Tell us about those races.

Jenna Ellis: For governor, definitely Byron Donalds has all the endorsements. Republicans outnumber Democrats by registered voters, with more than a million additional registered Republicans, but it all depends on turnout.

Jenna Ellis: The big controversy right now is that Democrat David Jolly has declined debates. This would mark the first time since the 1970s that Florida's general election for governor has not had a debate. I think Jolly is doing that purposefully because Byron did not debate in the primaries. I hope we get Republican turnout.

Jenna Ellis: I am for Republican leadership, even if it is not perfect, over a Democrat who wants all of their crazy policies. For the Senate, I think Ashley Moody, who is the current incumbent, is going to win that one as well.

Host: Basically, Fred, Florida has become a red state.

Fred: For statewide elections, absolutely.

Steve: Tim, you mentioned a story overnight. I would like to get Jenna's comment on this. The headline was, "Byron Donalds removes Trump photos from website."

Jenna Ellis: He responded to that, and if you go to his website, he still has Trump endorsements and photos with Trump. It is a nonissue. It is trying to divide Byron and Donald Trump ahead of the election. It is a nonstarter and not accurate.

Host: I will say this. I think Republicans who are running for office do not feel like they have to be 100 percent loyal to President Trump when they disagree with him. We have evidence of this. I am not saying Byron Donalds is trying to distance himself from President Trump, as Jenna just said, but they do not feel the need to endorse and embrace everything Donald Trump says and does either.

Jenna Ellis: Here in Florida, it is a little bit different because the bigger endorsement for Republicans in Florida is Governor DeSantis. He endorsed Byron, and I think Byron is mentioning that wisely, even more than Trump. DeSantis was a two-time elected governor and a very popular governor, so his endorsement in Florida matters a lot.

Host: It matters even more nationally. There is a lot of debate over whether the Trump endorsement is valuable because he does not have another election. He is rapidly heading into lame-duck territory. I do not think Trump is going to want to be a lame duck. We are going to see how he handles the dwindling years of his presidency.

Jenna Ellis: If he does what I think he should, which is what Governor DeSantis did at a leadership forum a couple of weeks ago that I attended, he would say, "This is not about my legacy. This is about Florida and maintaining conservative principles." He is basically transferring the baton, and he did it with such grace and wisdom. If Trump can do that and say, "Here is your next team," that would be the best way to go about it.

Host: We will see if Trump has that same view that DeSantis does. You are listening to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Thanks for joining us here on AFR. That is Jenna Ellis. I am Tim with Fred, Steve, and Ray.

Host: I am going to throw something out there. This is going to be tabloid-esque, but it is fun to talk about. Every time I mention this, I get rebuked almost immediately by friend and foe. I do not have many foes, but my friends say it is ridiculous. I am going to throw this out here, and you all feel free to pile on. Jenna can start.

Host: Is it crazy to think that if the Democrats win the House, and I think the Democrats are going to take over the House of Representatives, I do not know about the Senate yet, that it could be a disaster? Federal judges are appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate, and what we need more than anything is more conservative federal judges.

Host: If the Democrats take over the House, they will take all the committee chairmanships, start investigating, and start questioning. I do not know if they will impeach, because that is a waste of time, but they are going to engage in a lot of general harassment. You are not going to be able to get any legislation through, although presidents do not get legislation through anymore except for the once-a-year reconciliation.

Host: Would it be crazy to think that Donald Trump might say, "I am almost 81 years old, and I do not need this. I have a good life outside the presidency. I have buildings to build and golf courses to run. I have things to do, and I do not need this constant pressure"? He is going to have a hemorrhaging of staff. People are going to start looking for other jobs because they know he only has two years left.

Host: What if he stepped away and said, "I have done everything I could. I am advancing JD Vance"? It would give JD Vance and the Republicans a two-year head start. Vance could pull out of the war, and we could get a fresh start two years from now. Is there any chance that might happen?

Jenna Ellis: Tim, instead of spelling your name T-I-M, we need to change it to T-M-Z.

Host: I know it is tabloid talk, but I wondered about that.

Jenna Ellis: I do not think, in general, that is a good idea or a good precedent at all. That was what conservatives were criticizing Biden for potentially doing, giving Kamala Harris a leg up. If we start having that precedent, then we are no longer electing a president to fulfill a term.

Host: That is a different answer than I have been getting. I have been getting what Fred is probably going to tell me. You are aware that Donald Trump has an ego, right?

Fred: You are aware of Donald Trump?

Host: That is what I thought I was going to get. I thought that is what Jenna would say, but I am always concerned about precedent.

Steve: I am with Fred. I do not think it is likely to happen. He has already labeled himself as the greatest president ever to exist, unique among all presidents as the best. I think he is going to spend the rest of his term trying to build a legacy.

Host: Do you think that is right?

Ray: That is exactly what is going to happen. It is not inconceivable that he steps down to give JD Vance a leg up in 2028. It is not impossible that he would do that. I heard some cockamamie idea that he would do that, then run as JD's vice president, then JD would step down, and Trump would have his proverbial third term.

Host: That is unconstitutional because the vice president has to be eligible for the presidency.

Ray: That is even worse than your tabloid idea. That is Looney Tunes.

Host: That is my world right there.

Steve: The Looney Tunes music is playing in the background.

Host: I read something like that. So that is already out of the question.

Host: Take me seriously, Ray.

Ray: I am trying to be serious. He is going to spend the last couple of years trying to get that big arch built in Washington, get his name on a few more buildings, and stuff like that.

Host: We do not need that arch. I am going to tell you something. This is my opinion. You have a ballroom to build. The ballroom is a great idea. It needed to be done. You do not need to have state dinners under white tents on the South Lawn. The helipad is a great idea.

Host: That arch is going to be gaudy, and it is going to block the view. For those who have been to Washington, D.C., you have the Memorial Bridge, where you can see Arlington National Cemetery and the Lincoln Memorial. It is going to block that view.

Host: I am thinking it is going to be about 20 feet high, and then it is going to have some kind of Mission: Impossible capability where drones come out of the side or the top, maybe more like a science fiction movie. That is what President Trump was talking about the other day.

Host: I hope they do not build that arch. This is not a biblical or divisive subject. It is just my opinion. People can say, "Build the arch." Fine. We can still be friends, but I think it is too much. The Mall area and all the monuments have enough. We do not need to build more.

Host: All right. Thank you, Jenna. I appreciate it.

Jenna Ellis: Thanks.

Host: We will be back momentarily with more of Today's Issues on American Family Radio.