Today's Issues continues on AFR
>> Tim Wildmon: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Welcome back everybody to Today's Issues on American Family Radio. Tim, Fred, Ray. And now, Steve Paisley Jordows in studio. Good morning, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: Hey everybody.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, real quick, Fred, I wanted to ask you. Leave the room. So you and Dr. Rankin there were talking, airplanes, right?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, he mentioned he's a pilot. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Private pilot.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, he has a single engine aircraft and lycoming engine and said took about an hour and 20 minutes to get from home over to here to Tupelo. So sounds good. Nice little airplane.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. That's an hour and 20 and doesn't have to go through Dallas.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Just go out to the airport, Right. Fly over a bunch of cotton fields in the Mississippi river and boom, you're here.
>> Tim Wildmon: Nice.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, he said he was a professor at Vanderbilt.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is he coming from Vanderband? No, his daughter, she graduated.
>> Steve Jordahl: Oh, okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, from Vanderbilt.
>> Tim Wildmon: Vanderbilt. But he, he is, he is a retired professor at Southern Arkansas University, which is in Magnolia, Arkansas, which he says not too far from Texarkana.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is that what he said?
>> Tim Wildmon: Hm. Yeah, not far away at all.
>> Tim Wildmon: So. Okay, I'm not going up in a single engine plane.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, it's not the going up, it's the big deal, it's the coming back down.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, True. I've told this story many times before, but I'll tell it again because as you get older, you don't care that you've told the story because nobody tells you you've told the story before. I remember I used to go to my wife's granddad when he was the list of 30, 40 years ago. I'd go over to his house m about three times a year because they lived about two hours away.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: And he'd tell me the same jokes. It's the same jokes every time. He'd forget that he really liked those
>> Tim Wildmon: like J.J. jasper or, or he just liked the jokes.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, maybe so, but you know, I would laugh.
>> Tim Wildmon: Granddad's privilege.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I laughed every time. I never told him, hey, you told me that last time you married, huh? I couldn't do an old man like that. Right?
>> Tim Wildmon: No, that's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: I just went along with. But they were funny now, but after you heard them three times.
J.J. Jasper says he once flew with one pilot and one engine
So anyway, I was in Louisville, Kentucky. This is about, gosh, this would be 30 years ago or more. I don't know. The decades pass and you lose track. But I had to speak at a church and then I had, speak at one church in the morning. Then I had to cross the river to go to. Seemed like it was NewSong Albany, Indiana, which is across the river for another church at night. This is on a Sunday. So Sunday morning I spoke at one place, Sunday evening I spoke another. So the gentleman who was in the first service, came up to me. He wasn't my host, but he was a fellow in the church. He said, hey, what are you doing this afternoon? I said well, I don't have any plans. He said well, I'm a private pilot and it's a beautiful day for flying around. I could take you all around the area up the Ohio river and we could all, you know, if you'd like to. And I said well, with all due respect, sir, I don't go up in a plane with one pilot with one engine. And he sort of laughed and chuckled. He said well, okay, I understand. He said. I said, so, you know, I'm, I'll be fine going back to the hotel. So he said, he said, it's funny you should say that. I said, why? And he said well, I'm a pilot for ups.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh wow, okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: So that's where UPS is based out of. Yeah, Louisville.
>> Tim Wildmon: Louisville, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: So he said, I'm a pilot for ups. In addition to being a private plane, I fly jets. He said, it's funny you should say that about not wanting to go up with one pilot and one, one engine. he said, cause, one night my, my buddy and I were flying back from, from Anchorage to Los Angeles.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: Alaska to la. And he said I had a kidney stone attack.
>> Steve Jordahl: Wow.
>> Tim Wildmon: And was incapacitated.
>> Tim Wildmon: And now I can't remember whether he told me there were three on board or two pilots. May have been three.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm sure there's depending on the type
>> Tim Wildmon: of maybe a navigator and then two, two pilots, I don't know. But I just remember him saying he had a kidney stone attack. And I'm going like, well, what if you got another kidney stone attack this afternoon? So, so anyway, but, but you don't think about those things. But pilots are human too. And that's.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's why they, they're careful about what they eat and drink, you know, before they get on the jet and everything like that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Absolutely. Yeah, that has happened. The one good thing about the single engine, the small ones, the Cessna 172s and the Piper Cherokees.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is that, you know, if they have engine problems.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. That if you set them down on a highway if you need to, or
>> Tim Wildmon: put them down on a cornfield.
>> Tim Wildmon: You can if you'll survive.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah. It's when you get into the heavier stuff. They don't land well in cornfields.
>> Tim Wildmon: Not 747.
>> Tim Wildmon: No. No.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you know, J.J. jasper is a private pilot.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And he did exactly. What you talking about? He rumor, was he ran out of gas. I'm not. I'm not going to deny or confirm that. And I don't know that that was the rumor that he and his apartment.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's one thing you're supposed to check before you take off.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, that's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: But they safely landed on Highway 45. Yes, because I went out to see him at the airport. At the little. Airport. Little rural airport after he landed.
>> Tim Wildmon: Mm.
>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know if I was supposed to tell that or not. I don't know.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: It may not be.
>> Steve Jordahl: Did he have to take off?
>> Tim Wildmon: No, they towed it in. Oh, no, he landed on the highway with it. With a small plane.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And, I. I don't. I. I retract that. I don't know if he ran out of gas or if it's engine failure. I don't know. He didn't have a good day. But anyway, we say, fact is, the motor wouldn't run anymore and he had to put the plane down in the middle of. Fortunately, it was a four lane.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: You couldn't land on a two lane.
Steve: Well, you could, but it'd be risky
Really?
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you could, but it'd be risky because you could have a car coming both ways.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, the other thing you have to watch for in that situation is wires.
>> Tim Wildmon: M. Oh, yeah, you got to be. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Wires.
>> Tim Wildmon: Wires and bridges.
>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: You can usually see the bridges.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is Mike Huckabee gonna be on or is he gonna stand us up? You're working with these people because, you know, we've advertised and promoted. He's gonna be on. Am I. I'm talking to Brent Creely, our producer. You're on your own. You're on, Steve.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Steve.
>> Tim Wildmon: go ahead. And Mike Huckabee joins us. We'll cut you off, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: No problem at all.
Ambassador Mike Huckabee joins us to talk about an AI test
let's talk about this AI test. There was a, OpenAI was testing how good his newest AI model was hacking. And so they test in what they call a sandbox. This is basically a computer environment that has absolutely. And we're stopped.
>> Tim Wildmon: We got him. Okay, hold that. Hold that thought. Okay. We'll get back to that. Story. so, Governor? Well, no, it's Ambassador now. Ambassador Mike Huckabee is, in Israel and he joins us now. Good morning, Mike.
>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning.
>> Dave Williams: To me, it's good evening, but, Oh, yeah, it's great to talk to you. It's been a while.
>> Tim Wildmon: Good morning. yeah, from Central Time usa, Tim and Fred here and Steve and Ray, and, we go ahead.
>> Dave Williams: I'm just going to say, pleasure to be with you. And I thought you guys were calling me. That's why I'm a few minutes late. I was waiting on the phone to ring and I finally decided maybe I should call them and make sure I'm supposed to be on.
Tim Ferriss: Many Americans think Iran has nothing to do with America
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, we appreciate you making time for us again, as you do so often here on American Family Radio. We just wanted to get an update from you, what's going on in Israel as it relates to us here in the US and our friendship and everything. We read things and hear things that, sometimes you go, well, man, we've never heard this about Israel from Americans, and now we're seeing a test of our friendship.
>> Dave Williams: It seems like, you know, there is a strong support for the US And Israel, and I want to believe, and I'm certainly prayerful, that there's still a strong support for Israel within the U.S. i cannot tell you how important this partnership is. And yet there are a lot of Americans who think, well, what Israel is concerned about makes no difference to Americans. That Iran has nothing to do with America, Tim, that couldn't be further from the truth. And people who say something like that clearly are uninformed are incredibly naive. The fact is, for 47 plus years, the Iranians have been saying, death to America. This has been their agenda from day one. Their proxies, particularly Hezbollah, are in 12 Western Hemisphere countries. These are people who have one goal, and that's the annihilation of America. And if Americans think that what the Iranians are up to means nothing to them, they are badly mistaken. So I wish that there were more facts that were coming out to the American people and they recognize that they've been sold a bill of goods from, some of the Middle Eastern billionaires who spend untold amounts of money trying to convince people to, hate the Jews and to hate the land of Israel. But for those of us who are Bible believers, this is not a geopolitical issue. This transcends that. And it truly does become an issue of recognizing that God chose the Jewish people. He chose the land. He gave the purpose. And my Christian faith is built on the foundation of the Jewish faith. Western civilization is built on a Judeo Christian foundation. And America wouldn't exist if it weren't for the biblical foundation upon which we are built.
>> Tim Wildmon: Fred, go ahead.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, Ambassador Arcabee. Fred, here.
New York Mayor Zoran Mamdani says Benjamin Netanyahu should be arrested
the Mayor of NewSong York City, Zoran Mamdani, made, a lot of news in the last week or so, threatening. First he was going to arrest Prime Minister Netanyahu when the Prime Minister comes to NewSong York and in September for a meeting at the United Nations. Now he found out he doesn't have the legal right, but he's still out there even as far as latest yesterday talking about that, Prime Minister Netanyahu should be arrested. Some have applauded him, but what a shock to have the mayor of NewSong York City suggesting that Prime Minister Netanyahu should be arrested based on what the International Criminal Court has said.
>> Dave Williams: Well, it's absurd on several fronts. You're right to point out that he has no legal authority to arrest anybody. And he certainly doesn't have the legal right to arrest a diplomat because he has diplomatic immunity if he comes to the un. So this is nonsense on the part of Mandami. He ought to be focusing on fixing potholes, picking up the trash, keeping the parks clean and the needles from drug users free and off the streets. But instead he's injecting himself into something about which he is utterly ignorant when he says Benjamin Netanyahu is a war criminal. On, what does he base that Benjamin Netanyahu is the elected leader of a country that very much mirrors the United States in terms of complete wall to wall freedom. And if he's talking about Gaza and he takes the ridiculous, stupid and utterly, lack of facts into play and says, oh, they're guilty of genocide. The population of Gaza has actually grown by 4% every year since Israel started, going after to get their hostages back. Israel didn't start the war in Gaza. Hamas did. By murdering 1200 innocent civilians and taking captive 250 people, including 16Americans. If Americans had the similar kind of, assault on us in one day, if you looked at the scale of population, it would be the equivalent of 40,000Americans being murdered in a single day and 10,000 people being taken hostage, raped, starved, beaten and abused. And I wonder, what would Americans demand? What would Americans do If we had 40,000 people slaughtered, including pregnant women butchered in front of their children, elderly people burned alive in their wheelchairs, babies beheaded and their bodies put in ovens, if we'd had that in one Day. I wonder if America's response would be to just gently write maybe a strongly worded letter and say, please give our 10,000 hostages back. We all know the answer to that question. The Israelis prosecuted the war against Hamas for the sole purpose of getting their hostages back. But Hamas wouldn't let them go. This war should never have taken that long. But it did. Because Israel was doing their very best to try to prevent civilian casualties. But at the same time, they were relentless in seeking to get their hostages back.
>> Steve Jordahl: Ambassador Steve Jordal here. anti Semitism and outright hatred of Israel and Jews has become a litmus test for the rising tide in the Democrat Party leadership there seems unwilling or unable to resist. Are there things you can build into the political infrastructure right now to safeguard or make permanent or at least resist? If things go spectacularly badly for Republicans in 2028, I think it's going to
>> Dave Williams: require several things, not the least of which is a, very full throated recitation of the scripture. I'm really concerned that a lot of pulpits have gone, cool with cowardice. There needs to be biblical truth poured out of pulpits across America. If there are kids growing up in evangelical churches that are supposed to be Bible believing, Bible preaching churches, and these kids have no understanding of their innate relationship with their Jewish heritage and with God's plan for Israel, then I'm wondering, who's their pastor? Why is he not speaking the truth? Is he afraid that he's going to be considered political by doing so? My goodness, I hope not. But the second thing, we've got to start speaking out on every platform, including social media, because the influence from the billions of dollars flowing in from places like Qatar are influencing young minds. And they're getting their news off of TikTok and X and Facebook and Instagram. And most of the time they're getting information that is just about as wrong headed as Mayor Mondame out of NewSong
>> Tim Wildmon: York is we're talking to Governor Mike Huckabee, who's now Ambassador Mike Huckabee. Do you have five more minutes with us?
>> Dave Williams: Let's give it a shot. Why not?
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well, all you can do is say no. So I ask, if you got to have some hummus, you go right ahead. Doesn't matter to us there.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, there you go.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Ray Pritchard, do you have a question for Ambassador, Huckabee?
Ambassador: Israeli view on ongoing conflict with Iran is mixed
>> Tim Wildmon: Ambassador, one of the great questions here in the US has to do with this. The ongoing war, conflict with Iran, the bombing that's Resumed. What is the Israeli view at this point of the ongoing conflict with Iran? What are the prospects, in your view, for some kind of lasting peace?
>> Dave Williams: Well, I think the president's pretty blunt about it, and, he would like to see it. He's working toward it, but he's made it very clear that he does not think that the Iranians are serious about bringing together, any type of relinquishing their ambitions for nuclear material, enriched uranium, and opening up the Strait of Hormuz. If they are willing to make those changes in their worldview, the president would love to see, something happen that would avoid yet another conflict, the kinetic war. But there's no indication so far that they have come to their senses. We have a saying down south, I know you've all heard it, that there is no education in the second kick of a. M. Mule. And I think here is a great example in which Iran has had a real clear kick of the mule before, and. And they don't seem to be learning anything from it. And it may take yet another kick from the mule for them to finally get the message that they're not going to have a nuclear weapon.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that was a good one. Been a long time since I heard. Heard that one.
Mike Huckabee says Israel is not committing genocide with Jerusalem embassy move
All right, well, listen, Mike, we want to thank you for your time. We ask people to pray for you. I know you covet the prayers of people as you go about your duties there in, in Israel. By the way, President Trump, in his first term, moved the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Right?
>> Dave Williams: he did, and it's been a very significant decision, and I'm proud of him for doing it, because that's where it belongs. Jerusalem is the only capital the Jewish people have ever had, and it's the only city that has, ever been a capital of one people. And that's the Jewish people. So this makes sense. And I'm proud to be serving this president, this administration, and I do ask people to pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: Amen.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Mike, thanks so much. Take care. See you later.
>> Dave Williams: Thank you, Tim. Bye.
>> Tim Wildmon: Bye.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's Governor Mike Huckabee. when somebody's a governor, you can call them that the rest of their life.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: I keep saying that, but that's all I've ever known till he became ambassador. Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. The real question, if somebody repeat. What was that line about the second kick from a mule? I don't think I've ever heard.
>> Steve Jordahl: There's no education in the second kick of a mule.
>> Tim Wildmon: How do you say that in Hebrew. That would be my question. Or Arabic, for that matter. You know, this idea of genocide, we've talked about this before, because this is what Benjamin Netanyahu gets accused of, and the Israelis, in terms of their attacks inside Gaza. And it just like he said, he extrapolated. Mike, Huckabee did. What if. How many Americans did he say?
>> Tim Wildmon: What if, 40,000Americans were killed in one day?
>> Tim Wildmon: In one day and butchered like animals.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. And 10,000 were taken hostage.
>> Tim Wildmon: And 10,000. What he was doing was he was saying that is the percentage of what happened to Israel because Israel is only 10 million people.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: So he was saying, if this happened in America, what happened on October, was it 7, October 7th that year, that, if that happened to Americans, what do you think would be our response?
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes, and it would not be a polite letter, I would hope, as he posited.
>> Tim Wildmon: Here's the thing what got me was the people, that are who hate Israel, they were saying, okay, if this happens to America, do you think, this is me talking now. What gives the enemy of Israel the right to set the terms in terms of the response of Israel to the people who killed, slaughtered, and butchered those 1100 Israelis on that day?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: so this is not genocide.
>> Dave Williams: Is,
>> Tim Wildmon: is ethnic cleansing genocide is, taking people out just because of, their religion, for example. Although I'm not sure genocide even fits into that definition. But I do know this. If Israel were committing genocide, 20% against the Arabs, they would be killing all the Arabs that live in Israel, which is about 20% of the population.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: the Arabs have places in the Knesset, which is basically like our Congress. the Arabs live in Israel. They live in Nazareth. I use, when we go to, Israel on our tours, oftentimes we use, Israeli Arab Christians for our guides or for our bus drivers or whatever the case may be. So I know these, these people are being threatened. So it's not genocide. They like to use that word, the haters of Israel, because it invokes passion among people to say, what? They're committing genocide. Israel is. We got to stop that. You see what it does.
>> Steve Jordahl: I was reading, preparing for this interview I was reading in the Jerusalem Post. I believe it was that, the anti Semitic voices, even within Israel, think that that word isn't strong enough. They hate the Jews so much that they are now proposing a whole new word which they're calling holicide, because genocide just is.
>> Tim Wildmon: What does that mean?
>> Steve Jordahl: They make it up. Whatever. The. The point being, the genocide to them isn't even strong enough.
>> Tim Wildmon: Israel is not committing genocide. No, Israel is. Israel does. Israel's missiles and rockets and sometimes gunfire kill non combatants inside Gaza, women and children included. Sadly, unfortunately, that does happen. That does happen, and that's on Hamas. The reason it does happen, I've mentioned before, imagine your enemy is hiding behind,
>> Tim Wildmon: imagine the enemy is hiding amongst the civil. The general population in schools. They're not wearing. They're not wearing uniforms, going, hey, here, we're to fight.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And they're. And they're making tunnels below hospitals and schools and mosques.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: So that if Israel attacks them, Israel gets a bad PR because, look, Israel bombed a school. You see how this works?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yep. Yep.
>> Tim Wildmon: So, you know, I'm not Israel, Right or wrong. I'm not America. Right or wrong. Okay, we can make mistakes, they can make mistakes, but Israel is not intent on wiping out everybody in Gaza, or they could have done it by now.
All right. Thank you, Steve. We'll be back tomorrow with the trivia Friday
All right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. We'll be back tomorrow with the trivia Friday. Thank you, Steve.
>> Steve Jordahl: My pleasure.
>> Tim Wildmon: My thanks to Fred, to Brent Creeley, to Ray Cole, our video, man, and all the other guests who were on with us today. We thank them. We'll see you tomorrow,
>> Dave Williams: Sam.
