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U.S. launches large scale strikes against ISIS targets across Syria

Jenna Ellis: Good morning. It is Monday, January 12th, and over the weekend the US launched a large scale strike on ISIS targets across Syria. The latest attack comes after US Forces struck ISIS in infrastructure and weapons sites last month in retaliation for the deaths of two U.S. soldiers and a civilian interpreter. This coming from NBC. The U.S. has carried out what it called large scale strikes against ISIS in Syria, U.S. central Command announced Saturday afternoon. The strikes, conducted around 12:30pm Eastern Time were part of Operation Hawkeye strike which the Pentagon said was ordered by President Donald Trump on December 19th in response to an ISIS ambush, on December 13th. That attack killed two U.S. soldiers and a U.S. civilian interpreter. U.S. official said the military in December launched strikes against Islamic State group infrastructure and weapons. The Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth posted about the strikes on X, saying we will never forget and never relent.

Scott Uehlinger : The strikes were in retaliation for Syrian deaths

So let's welcome in Scott Eulinger who is a former CIA intelligence officer. And Scott, tell us more about the strikes and what we know at this point.

Scott Uehlinger: Well, those strikes were in retaliation for those deaths, noted in Syria. And so it just shows you that the Syrian government, which frankly I myself am very skeptical of, is unable or unwilling to provide the security, even for the Syrian people and for US Troops that we're used to. So, those attacks were done. It's Also interesting that, there were other attacks, conducted last night in different targets in Lebanon. And I think kind of all of them are sort of working to, sort of with an eye toward the problems within Iran as a way of, you know, making the softening, the ground a little bit against isis. Should, Iran decide to retaliate? Because that is in the mind of us military planners that if and when there is, a US Or Israeli action against, Iran, then a lot of those forces that we've, discussed are supported by Iran, the ones that the US has already attacked and the ones the Israelis have already attacked. So this is a way of keeping your heads down. should the Iranians, either because we attacked or in preparation, they order those units to attack US Bases in the area?

Jenna Ellis: Well, and so what is the posture right now between, the United States and Israel as an ally and Iran, especially considering what we talked about last week, with Venezuela and with the oil supply, you know, going to China and Iran and so forth. and our, foreign policy with this. I mean, it seems like President Trump is very, focused on a lot of, these. These foreign policy, issues. And I mean, obviously there are some things domestically, but how does all of that play into this, if at all?

Scott Uehlinger: Well, like I said, he's Yesterday Trump made the announcement that, Ah, frankly I was almost expecting that this morning when I got up that I would find out that the US had hit, Iran. I think we're very close to doing so. But Trump did, make a statement yesterday that indicated that the leadership, meaning the mullahs of Iran, have reached out him. So there's a possibility here that there may be some kind of settlement, perhaps allowing the Ayatollah to move away and go somewhere else or something like that, similar to what we saw with Maduro. So I hope, certainly that is one solution that I'll accept. Trump has shown he can think outside the box with this stuff and basically prevent massive US Involvement. And I think that's important to the American people. But at the same time, we do need to, You know, Iran needs. The regime in Iran needs to be thrown on the dust heap of history. I mean, you know, it's been our enemy since 79, and I'm acutely aware of that. I mean, I worked against them extensively when I was in the CIA. but I do think that, because basically it depends on the civilian deaths now with, Internet, down in. And even phones down in, Iran Starlink, thank God, is up a little bit. So it gives us a little bit of a picture. the Trump administration is looking very carefully at the civilian deaths. How massive is the retaliation against the Iranian people? and certainly if there are signs that there is massive mobilization to kill the Iranian people, then, I think the US Will strike. basically Islamic Revolutionary Guard, which is like the Waffen SS of, the Iranian regime. I think that those targets will be hit. I think in the Iranian regime, in fact, there are reports the Iranian army and Iranian air force are not politically reliable for the mullahs. they are more tied to the people and they're more likely to disobey orders. and so the regime, is relying on the IRGC to do the enforcement because they have always been a tool of the regime. And there's also reports that, that foreign fighters are being brought in, Arabs, because the, Ayatollah knows that foreigners are going to be a lot more likely to open fire on freedom, loving Iranians than their own people. And so that's a very cynical, approach. But like I said, I guess, you know, there is a reported 3,000 deaths. And I don't. But I haven't seen anything yet to indicate that there's been. Was a massive increase last night. So maybe the ayatollahs have, basically gotten a stay of execution. But I do sort of feel that, some kind of US Military action is almost inevitable because I think to date, the, Iranians, with the amount of casualties they've taken and the fact that there's millions of people still on the streets, I think the Iranian people have shown to Trump and to the American people that they are willing to die for their freedoms. And so I think that that warrants, intervention to prevent, you know, wholesale massacre of the population.

Jenna Ellis: Wow.

Jenna Ellis: And I'm speaking with Scott Ulinger, who is a former, ah, CIA officer. And so, you know, we have all of these, these goals in terms of, some U.S. intervention. And obviously the. After Venezuela, the headlines were so predictable from the left suggesting that this was an impeachable offense, that Trump went and captured Maduro. And we know that if Democrats, take back Congress, that's an inevitable, that they're gonna start all of these fake impeachments. Again. this is obviously something else that the left will disagree on just because it's Donald Trump. But how should conservatives frame this in terms of America's, foreign interests here?

Scott Uehlinger: Well, basically, I mean, like I said, Iran has been an enemy of ours. they declare war on us in 79. We could ignore it all we want, but they declare war on us. They're responsible for the deaths of more than 250 of our troops in Iraq during the Iraq War. And when it comes to blowing up Jews in Argentina or hitting synagogues all over the world or Christian targets, the Iranians will stop at nothing. So I have no problem eliminating them off the face of the earth, especially if it's not going to involve the large scale deployment of U.S. troops. And that is certainly Trump's plan. He's not going to do that. But the other interesting thing to take a step back from all this foreign stuff, whether it's Venezuela or Iran, is other people have written this, but I get the impression that what Trump is doing is these opportunities have kind of presented themselves, I guess, in a way. But Trump is dealing with them as promptly as he can because I believe, for instance, the Venezuelan arrests are going to reveal massive democratic cooperation with Venezuela, with these smartmatic voting machines, technology, election stealing technology that the, as well as exported in dominion voting systems which are in our country. We're using this technology. So this is all part, I believe, of a strategy where basically by neutralizing our foreign enemies and stuff, that is when Trump is going to, you know, Maduro will go on trial, they will make all of these things apparent to the American people and then perhaps we're going to start seeing some high level arrests for corruption within the United States. Because although Americans are impatient for justice, and I sympathize with that, I think certainly Trump himself, who has been on the receiving end of huge amounts of injustice with trials, with having his property searched, I'm sure he is looking for the same level of justice that the rest of America is looking for. It's just he understands how the timing, is working in the government. And so by eliminating these foreign threats and he's also clearing the board to make some major moves within the United States because he understands that our democracy, that our republic is at risk.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. And Pete Hegseth said in December, that the operation was not the beginning of war. It's a declaration of vengeance, which I think really encapsulates exactly what you've been describing. Scott, Eulinger.

Scott Yeller: President Trump has talked about taking Greenland by purchase

And moving forward, I wanted to switch topics in the last five minutes or so we have with you, and ask you about the issue of Greenland, because the left is completely just horrified and shocked and appalled and all of the other reaction that they always have to anything that President Trump does, when he's still talking about the US Acquiring Greenland. And it's very interesting that even Senator John Fetterman now appears to be supportive of the US Taking Greenland either by purchase. He likened it to the acquisition of the, the Louisiana Purchase and Alaska as terrorist territory, in American history. And I think people forget that boundaries, land boundaries can change. I mean this certainly isn't off the table and it's something that Trump has been quite serious about for a while. what would that look like? And do you anticipate that that's likely to happen, during his administration?

Scott Uehlinger: I actually think it is likely to happen. at this point, what's really pitiful is to see the reaction of the Europeans who seem to learned absolutely nothing about Trump. They're so educated, they know nothing. Because you know, when he says things about invade Greenland, I mean that idea is ludicrous. But he's setting, he's basically setting the parameters of a deal. But yet you have like French generals literally saying we're going to fight over this. They're just embarrassing themselves that they're so thick headed they cannot understand this is all a Trump negotiating tactic. Now there's already reports that Rubio is meeting with Greenland leadership and Danish leadership leadership. So I think that we very well could see something like this. You have to understand that the idea of Greenland being part, having some relationship with the United States was discussed as early as the Eisenhower administration. So this is not a new idea. It's a new idea perhaps in my lifetime. But this idea was floated around in the mid-50s because of the threat of Soviet nuclear weapons. So I think this is going to go forward. it's possible. I don't think it's not going to be something like statehood, or something like that, or even a territory like Puerto Rico. I think it's going to be m. The relationship is going to be more like I forget the phrase. It's like an agreement of strategic cooperation and it's an agreement that basically we will invest in your country and basically we will take care of the foreign policy and all. And you basically will just hang out there and the United States will kind of run the foreign policy. That is what is done with us territories in the Pacific, such as the Mariana Islands, et cetera, are U.S. affiliated. They're not U.S. territories and they're not U.S. states like Hawaii or like, American Samoa as a territory, but they're a lower status, a status that they are basically very strongly affiliated with the United States. So I think that that's what will happen because that is, I think, the palatable to Greenlanders who basically want to have some kind of nominal independence from Denmark. They don't necessarily want to go from Danish rule to being part of the United States. Or maybe that will be later on in the game. But in the beginning, it's going to start out with the way I portrayed it, similar to, our relationship to certain, areas of the Pacific.

Jenna Ellis: So a strategic partnership agreement is what I think you're talking about.

Scott Uehlinger: That's right. What it is, it's a partnership agreement.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. And we're already out of time, Scott Yeller. But I think that's really fascinating and it makes a lot more sense, to look at the nuance again. Right. which we always have to do instead of just the leftist headlines that are, you know, full of trauma and volatility, to actually look at what President Trump is doing, what's possible, and also what's in both nations best interest. But we'll be right back with more.

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Jenna Ellis: Minnesota is experiencing large scale welfare and child care fraud

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Jenna Ellis: Welcome back. And Minnesota is still dealing with the aftermath of, the, the woman who was killed when she took her vehicle as a weapon and tried to Ram it into an ICE agent who, of course then used, force to stop her. And the left is, continuing to try to manipulate that story and take away from the fraud that is going on in Minnesota. That is actually the bigger story here. And there is a wonderful article that you need to read in the epic Times titled Fraud Failure and the Cost of Not demanding. Demanding assimilation. Minnesota did not wake up one morning, this article says, and suddenly become a hub for fraud. What Americans are witnessing large scale welfare and child care fraud, weak enforcement, political paralysis and rising public anger, is not random. It is the predictable downstream result of decades of policies made by people who would never have to live with the consequences and who faced few personal costs for getting it wrong. So this is by my good friend Kathi Barnett. She is also a radio host and political strategist and, joins me this morning. So, good morning Kathi, and I think you are spot on on this article.

Kathy Barnette: Thank you so much, Jenna. It's so great to be here with you.

I think it's absolutely correct for Americans to demand accountability over Somali fraud

Yes. You know, like, there are so many people who would try to gaslight us and believing that one, the fraud is not real. The fraud is real. And they would try to tell us that our anxiety is rooted in things that didn't really happen, but it did happen. And so I wanted to write this just to kind of put it into perspective that we have very real issues. This is really happening and that what we're feeling, that is very real.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. And I think it's absolutely correct for Americans to demand accountability and also demand, not just accountability for the people in government who either were complicit or who turned a blind eye to this, but also accountability in terms of deportations, of people who are complicit, didn't assimilate obviously, and really don't deserve to be here.

Kathy Barnette: Yeah, listen, assimilation is not a suggestion. It needs to and it should not be optional. People who are coming from, specifically when we're talking about the Somali related fraud, coming from a country that is, you know, Donald Trump has some very unkind words in his description about it, but it is very true. They're coming from a, region that is ruled by Klan, that is ruled by tribal, allegiances and then they're. And coming from an area that doesn't even have a, a formal government that is recognized by world powers. So we fought them out of that region, we bring them over into a high trust society and then we allow them to effectively recreate Somali Somalia, but with better WI fi here in our own Country. They don't have to assimilate, they don't have to speak our language, and they get all the benefits. And then we're scratching our head and wondering why people who come from a region where it's all about tribal allegiance and not civic, union come here and suddenly they bring the same kind of ideas and ideology over here to our own country. There's no. I mean, this should not have taken anyone by surprise, but the fact that now this is. You know, I just wrote another article for, Epic, kind of weaving a common thread through all of this that we're experiencing. Many of us will look at these many headlines and think that they're unconnected, but they're not. There's a common thread being woven through all of them. And I believe that thread is that the age of pretending there are no consequences for our choices is over. We pretended we could print money and to ad infinitum and that there are no consequences. We pretended we could have blurred borders and nothing would happen as a result of that. We pretended that truth is relative, that morality is abstract, that a boy could be a girl, a girl could be a boy, and that there would be no consequences. I mean, we were literally pretending that we could have free trade, hollow out all of our major industries here in the country, send our jobs and training to other nations, and that somehow we would not become dependent upon our enemies. And so we could have kept the delusion going for some time. But I believe the world has been renegotiating the pecking order of supremacy for decades now. And now America is just getting into the battle. But we can no longer pretend that these consequences of our choices of allowing people to come to our nation, not forcing them to assimilate, and allowing politicians to create rules and policies that they're not tied to, and that the consequences of those decisions are not, tied to them. That that age of pretending is over.

Jenna Ellis: So well said. And what a great point.

Kathy Barnett: Republicans too eager to cooperate with left on immigration

Kathi Barnett, my special guest this morning, radio host and political strategist. You should follow her on X. read her articles in Epoch Times. And, you know, I think that this is the consequence, Kathi, of Republicans being too eager to, you across the aisle, find common ground, you know, not necessarily object to, you know, what the left is doing because, you know, these types of, these types of consequences are so predictable. And I actually think this is something that the left wanted. I mean, when you look at what's going on in Minnesota and the fraud, and seeing the evidence that's coming out of of people who obviously Democrats, who obviously knew about this and, and were complicit in it. I mean, this is something that they want. They have been advocates for diversity for decades and, you know, saying, well, nobody needs to assimilate. Let's, let's let, you know, the Somalis come in and rebuild their culture here. I mean, this isn't just a consequence that was sort of unforeseen. I think this was actually a strategic goal of the Democrats in order to break down Western civilization and the society that we live in in America.

Kathy Barnette: Absolutely. I think it was last night, Elon Musk and Data Republican put out, a list of the NGOs. I'm sorry, the George Soros funded NGOs. And they listed the board members of many of these George Soros, backed NGOs to show that the reason why nothing is being done, because you have both Republicans and Democrats sitting on the boards of these JURO funded NGOs. And so, you know, and I used to say all the time when I was running for US Senate here, when I was working with the, you know, Vivek Ramaswamy campaign, is that we did not end up where we are by happenstance. Democrats, could not do half the things they're doing if Republicans weren't complicit. And that became very, the awareness of that became very real as I was running my own campaign and now spending an exorbitant amount of time behind the curtain. You know, this probably better than anyone, that Democrats couldn't do half the stuff that they're doing and getting away with if Republicans weren't complicit. It's not just that Republicans are, you know, are trying to be, polite and nice and clutching our pearls. The overwhelming majority is because they're just as complicit as the Democrats. And we need to wrap our minds around that and hold these people accountable and demand accountability.

Jenna Ellis: Absolutely. And I think that that is exactly why we don't see Congress codifying, any of Trump's executive orders. they did at least pass the one big, beautiful bill that gave, gave, more funding, to ICE and, you know, border enforcement and all that. Maybe that's the one thing that they did through all of 2025. But overall, as it sits, the establishment GOP has never liked Donald Trump. They've never, wanted to give over their power and their kind of half of the UNI party to an outsider who actually came in and wanted to make America great again and had other ideas besides lining their own pockets. And they, they really don't have the same vision, even under this banner of Republican as Donald Trump and as genuine conservatives do. And I think this is the clash that we're headed for in the midterms, especially in 2026. I think this election coming up is going to determine the, the power differential between the establishment GOP and, and the conservative kind of, not necessarily MAGA wing. But you saw what Donald Trump wants to do and want to head down, the road that is away from, you know, kind of these establishment, uni party ideas that haven't worked. And we actually want and voted for the Trump mandate, which included things like being harder on immigration, accountability. And yet, I mean, look, I saw a thing, Kathi, last night from, an account on X that was listing everyone, including me, by the way, who had been arrested during Biden's administration and then said, how many people have been arrested under, under Trump's administration right now? Absolutely zero. No accountability for any of the damage. And I mean, so what's, what is.

Jenna Ellis: Going on with Republicans?

Kathy Barnette: They're complicit. So it's so frustrated. you, I mean, you have sacrificed so much. You have put so much on the line in order to, you know, to, to hold people accountable for the many things that have gone wrong. I have put myself out on the line. We know so many good people who have come to the forefront and say, you know, this is the heel that I am willing to stake my life on. And we have been, you know, Democrats did not play, and their justice was swift. I mean, you know, before. Before we can even get home. I was at January 6th. I had a great time. I've never tried to pretend otherwise. We had a great time when we were there. We get on the bus, I'm halfway home, and I get a phone call that all was breaking loose up there. But before any, but before the dust could settle, before anything could be adjudicated, people had already been maligned and had already been judged. The jury has already come out and put out their verdict. And people paid very real prices. people have lost their lives. People have taken their own lives as a result of the lies that Democrats pushed, surrounding January 6th, surrounding voting. And now we get. And now, for example, we have Renee Good. And all of a sudden I was on BBC, and everybody is like, oh, well, we need to wait and find out what really happened. And the entire time I'm thinking to myself, where is the accountability? When Democrats were in office, the strong hand of the government came down very swiftly on so many of us today. We have yet to see anyone even being indicted. Anyone even, you know, or at least having. What happened to Donald Trump with Mar A Lago and the helicopter are swirling overhead and the police going in 10 cars deep. We haven't even seen that level of adjudication or holding anyone accountable. And I think it's right that the American people are upset about it, that maga, so many of us who have sacrificed so much to get this president elected three times, I think we're justified in being very leery, very, very, upset about what has not been done yet. And I know people say, oh, it takes time. Okay, We've already gone a whole year yet. And I have seen Republicans have more galas and clinking thundering glasses with one another than I've seen them do anything else.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. And, you know, at this time in 2021, when Biden was in office, I was already getting subpoenas. I mean, you know, they were on it because they had a plan for, not justice, but lawfare. And we're not talking about just things that happened during the Biden administration, but things like accountability for the Russia collusion hoax. I mean, there's been no accountability for that. Anything that happened, obviously, with, you know, the Mar A Lago raid, the Biden auto pin stuff, you know, the Ukraine impeachment hoax, I mean, Benghazi, for crying out loud, which was way before that, any. Any accountability for Covid, for, you know, all of the 2020 lawfare. Absolutely. And, you know, and the dirty little secret, Kathi, that, you know, you and I have talked about, of course, offline, is that this isn't just Democrats. There are, as we've been talking about, complicit Republicans as well. And this is why, you know, I did sacrifice a lot to stand up for the truth. Because the truth is, it's not just Democrats. There are Republicans who, Who, were complicit in a lot of this and who deserve accountability as well. And it's not a matter of just being. If you're for Trump, then you're for every single Republican. It's a matter of actually looking at what happened, where the facts lead, and saying that, you know, sometimes there are bad people and bad actors on both sides, and the truth is, it's not just black and white. Often you have to parse it. And nuance, there's more nuance than that. That. And to be willing to stand up for the truth and actually call out people who were allegedly on your own team is, is even more difficult. And so this is why, though, it matters that there's accountability.

Kathy Barnett: The fraud that we've seen in Minnesota is unacceptable

And this is why it matters that there's accountability in Minnesota. Kind of circling back to where we were at in the very beginning. Because if Republicans aren't going to have accountability and Trump's own DOJ is not going to have arrests for, you know, any of these things that we've talked about about, why should we expect any action to be taken on Minnesota fraud when that's like literally just the Democrats. Unacceptable.

Kathy Barnette: The fraud that we've seen, in Minnesota is unacceptable. what we're watching over the past weekend, of Justice George Floyd, inspired rioting, right? You don't get to behave like that because you don't agree with something. You don't make yourself ungovernable. And this is something that I talk about all the time. Is that our Constitution, Right? It is just words on a piece of paper if the rules don't apply across the board. And to be quite frank and to be quite frank, we as a people, we have, you know, our founding fathers, they were very exact, that our rights do not come from the government, that they have been endowed upon us by a creator. I am a free individual who get to live my life according to my own conscience. Right? But as a republic, we have come together as a nation and said, okay, listen, we are in a high trust, kind of society. We understand that there are responsibilities for freedom, and so we will abdicate some of those freedoms.

Mike Lindell: Right?

Kathy Barnette: Do I have the freedom? because it has been endowed upon me to walk into a crowded building and scream fire. Yes, I absolutely do. But as a society, we've decided that that's not good, that that causes more harm than good. And so we have, we have decided there are certain things we just will not do. And as a result, and so therefore, we made ourselves governable. But what we're watching with these George Soros backed NGOs and the things that are happening right now is that they are intentionally making themselves ungovernable. And our nation does not exist, it cannot exist for long. When we allow people to be able to come out and spit in the, in the faces of our officers, to dock them, to track them, to, malign them, to get into their, to impede the business that they're doing, we cannot long survive.

Jenna Ellis: So the Trump administration, and we are already out of time. Kathi Barnett, you can follow her. Kathi, for the number four truth. And we will be right back with more.

Mike Lindell is running for governor of Minnesota on American Family Radio

Jeff Chamblee: Welcome back to Jenna Ellis in the Morning on American Family Radio.

Jenna Ellis: Welcome back. Well, Minnesota, while being in a state of investigating fraud, their governor is not running for re election. some Republicans are stepping up, including Mike Lindell.

Jenna Ellis: Yes.

Jenna Ellis: The CEO of My Pillow is running for governor of Minnesota and I had the opportunity to interview him on my latest podcast. You can find that On Demand with jenna [email protected] Click podcasts, click the icon for on demand. Or you can listen on Spotify, itunes, wherever you get your podcasts. that is On Demand with Jenna Ellis. So did a wide ranging interview with Mike Lindell and wanted to play a portion of it for you. But to listen to the entire interview, of course go to the podcast. But here is a portion of that interview with Mike Lindell.

Mike Lindell is running for governor of Minnesota

With all of this that's going on in Minnesota, what is your vision, Mike Lindell, for your home state and what you want to do if elected, ah, to governor?

Mike Lindell: Well, I've got a, we just had our first debate last night by the way. And but I've got solutions for each thing, each platform right now. especially, let's just go with those welfare platforms. Well, if you get rid of the fraud, you stop the fraud. I mean that said, that should be done immediately and you put the people that have done it in prison and then you deport all the illegals. I said there could be over 50% that have done this area legal and they're here illegally. but then you gotta look into these welfare platforms. And that's where I really have a great thing. It's almost plug in for the using the private sector and our tax dollars, but it reduces it about 80%. Imagine all these welfare programs that are out there, from child care to food to all these things. If you could reduce them that much, Even if it's 50%, it's a huge savings to taxpayers. And a lot of people don't want to pay their taxes for certain things. But this platform that I, that I have is the private sector money. They can kind of pick and choose. Hey, I want to put my money here. People want to help generally, but they don't want to put money into things they don't believe in or that does, or that doesn't work. So that's one thing. The other thing is we have a huge problem with these cities now like Minneapolis, they're basically becoming empty cities or Portland or these, these big cities around the country. And for a couple of reasons. One is obviously, people are in fear you have safety, that you know. And I work with Rudy Giuliani who's actually on my network, Lindell tv. And what he did to NewSong York and cleaned up NewSong York and was amazing. And I'm going to be using him for advice on that. But for the safety part, but also you have another thing going on with these empty box stores. I went down Minnesota. We had the first mall in the United States, Southdale Mall. I went down there a couple weeks before Christmas and I was just going wow, where have all the people gone? And a lot of it is because everybody's buying off the Internet. And you know these box stores and these small businesses, they're paying, you're paying sales tax there, they're paying real estate tax, they're paying rent and you have to level that field. And I've got a great program where I'm going to eliminate the sales tax in these box stores and stuff. And And you know, so you're going to pay your sales tax buying on Amazon or Mypillow or anything online. But you should be able to go into these places and balance this teeter totter to bring the people back and with not only being safe but also getting at least equal deals. and then you have education. I have education. I've dealt with the big problems with the teachers unions in Minnesota. But we also have problems with the classrooms. And when you have people from another completely another third world and, and they're in the classrooms and you're. And Or you have kids that just have problems. The teachers can't discipline more and they can't. The regulations, you can't even move them out of classroom. Everybody's suffering. And I want to do I'm going to do a lot of stuff with vouchers, charter schools. I've studied it all and like in Detroit I work with them a few years ago. So basically everything I've touched, the farmers, I just met with the farmers. we have in Minnesota we have a great opportunity for its sustainable aviation fuel and it's made out of corn. And this is an industry that will bring corn prices to a sustainable where we're using our own words, we are self sustaining here in the United States for our farmers and stabilize the grain market, the corn market. And Minnesota is perfect for that as we have a pipeline from where this stuff can be made right to the Minneapolis airport. So what I've Done. Jenna is looked at every single problem and said, here's the solution. And, I'll give you one other one is, when I went in the first administration, you know, my passion has been to help addicts, help the homeless. I did, I put millions of dollars into, into your, Teen Challenge, your Salvation Armies, your union golf, getting people off addiction and getting people to Jesus. but during the first administration, I'm very good friends with Ben Carson, and they came up with a program. The first place was going to be la and the mayor and the governor of California, was in all agreement. It's a great program where you're taking all your people from the street, your homeless, your addicts, and also your people that have mental issues. Remember in the early 1970s when one flew over to Kuklu ness cases out and then Geraldo went in to see, to validate if this stuff was really going on. Our mental institutions across the country were shut down and 3 million people were released into the streets. Basically. That number, they say, could be as high as 20 million now. So you take, you go to the streets and you take everyone off the street and you bring them to these federal, they're like, maybe like a tent city, so to speak, or federal building land. And you're sorting them, you're basically bringing them in. And they do a lot of this in Colorado Springs, Colorado, in a way where all your things are in one place now. You storm, you take the addicts and you get them help. And a lot of it will be private, you know, like your Teen Challenge, your Salvation Armies, and you're using money to subsidize them because you're getting them out the streets, you're getting them the help you need. And then also you bring back the, institutions that can help the mentally impaired, the people that have problems there. But now we have technologies that are 100 times better than the early 1970s. And then the last piece is the homeless. And that's the easiest one because a lot of them are out there. there are programs out there that are already out there, but they've become almost a way of life in a lot of these places. And this was going to be an amazing program, but what stopped it? The China virus came in and it was like a parked car. Well, I recently got the blueprints for that, and that's going to be live launched immediately, when I become governor. So, I'm very excited because I think I'm the only one that has all the solutions to solve These problems. And then they asked me last night, during the debate, well, how are you going to get the suburban people? How are you going to get elected? And, I said, well, you know, in Minnesota, 200,000 people voted for Donald Trump in the 2020 election, and they didn't vote in the 2022 election. and, you know me, Jen, I'm going to be very persistent. If I have to go door to do door, you got to get out and vote. And also, I'm also going to be able to go to the inner city in Minneapolis and St. Paul and turn people that traditionally have voted Democrat because they have big concerns over the illegals that are here taking all their resources. And you need a different input to get a different output.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. And, you know, as you're describing all of this, Mike Lindell, I mean, this is the contrast between someone who's a conservative and actually loves America, loves your home state of Minnesota, wants to see, you know, people genuinely thrive and experience the American dream and liberty and having all of these policies and all of these different areas that you're discussing. What a contrast from what Minnesota leadership has done over Tim Walls's tenure and even further back from that. And it's just such a contrast between a Republican versus a Democrat in terms of whether it's a policy that actually benefits people or it only benefits. Benefits themselves and the segments that they want to promote. And so, you know, where do you think the, difficulty is then, in getting that turnout and getting people in Minnesota to understand, hey, you know, we want Republican leadership because these policies actually work where Democrats clearly don't.

Mike Lindell: Right. And I'm going to backtrack a little bit. I wanted to say this too, that another thing I'm going to do that's a big problem in Minnesota and in our nation. When I spoke at the Rose Garden that, it got to be. It was very famous, worldwide when I. This was March of 2020, before we all went into lockdown. And I said a nation had turned its back on God.

Minnesota needs to pass laws against Sharia law, Jen says

We have taken God out of our schools. We have. We need to get back in the. Where we read our Bibles, get back with our families. And as you know, Jen, I've lived the American dream on steroids. I mean, ah, going from an addict to where I was with this company. but it's all been by the grace of God. And one of the things that Minnesota, has done that probably, worse than most other states, we turned our back on God and our leadership did waltz Put a satanic statue right in the middle of our capitol. And you guys can look this up. You can't make this up. He got an award for that from the Satanists. It's still at the capitol. That's going to be gone the first day. Minnesota is the Trojan horse for Sharia law.

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Mike Lindell: That will be another thing. Eight states have passed laws against that and Minnesota needs to pass that now. Our businesses, when we have to do stuff and stop our assembly lines and stuff in the, in the Because of what, because of what they want and it doesn't fit with our constitution, we. This needs to be stopped. But so I think to get people out, I've got a great plan. I'm going to be one of this is doing I'm going to educate the people. So it's basically education. Education. You can throw out all the 1 minute ads you want and blame you know look at these Democrats. Look what they're doing, look what they're doing here. the people, I think the people need to be educated. What are the solutions? And that's what I'm going to do and I'm going to do it. I'm going to make One of which I'm very good at is marketing. And imagine half hour infomercials that are out there instead of these little one or two minute ad things you put out and you print them out also on social media, media people need to be educated. What are the solutions? And not a farmer out in western Minnesota. He needs a different solution. It doesn't you know, he's not thinking about the inner city of Minneapolis. He's not the suburbs that I live in in Minnesota. He's not. You know every place has a different footprint and a different problem. So you educate them. What's going to affect me? What are you going to do? Problem solution. And it's going to help all people, not just a party or a self serving agend agenda. When people make decisions in politics what I've learned the last five years is I've fought both Republicans and Democrats alike for what I should secure our election platforms. I probably met more politicians and no more now than, than most people. And and what they, what I've learned is if they make decisions that don't help any people, I don't care what party you're in. I'm talking the people, they have an agenda. It's a self serving agenda and it's usually a very evil agenda. And one of the things. So I think it's educating people, just like I did a year and a half ago, me and Mayor Rudy Giuliani. I went to the Democrat convention and I went in there and I went there for a reason. I wanted to go into the, into the deep, into the city of Chicago. And we talked to people that were switching from traditionally voting Democrat to voting, that we're going to vote for Donald Trump. And we asked him why and almost. And the reasons that came out of their mouths was so important. And it was like, hey, the illegals are taking all our resources, whether it's health care, whether it's filling up our hotels, even our treatment centers. And it was. And they had had it. And I think to be able to get, to educate people going, hey, there's a better way. You need a different input to get a different output. That's what I'm going to educating them here. Here's the solution and here's where, you know, traditionally it's. You're just, we're just getting basically boiled like goldfish. I mean you're boiled like frogs or whatever. And you're. And that's what's been going on. And they just accelerate it all. And now with this fraud and everything now you can point and say, hey, we sure, we've got to, we've got to fix the fraud and stuff. And but we've also got to fix all of these platforms at the same time. And they asked me last night during, well, what do you see Minnesota looking like in four years? A lot of people on that stage are going, you know, this is going to take years to fix and years to fix. I said, you know what, with God, all things are possible. And I'm telling you, I don't go into just like my pillow and the attacks that it's taken for three years. I don't go just to one department and say, oh, you know what, we better look into this. Let's spend a month on this and see how things come out during the third quarter. Blah, blah, blah. No, you get on it immediately and you do it on a horror level track horizontally wherever you watch everything every day and here. And I'll be the most transparent governor this country's ever seen communicating with the people. And not only that, the leaders that are leading in Minnesota, these other department, if they're a bad leader, they're going to be called out or if they're at their department, just like they're getting called out now for the fraud. So it's accountability. But I'm really excited actually, with this, with, knowing that I really feel I can make a huge difference and, and in a very, and very, accelerated pace.

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Jenna Ellis: All right, well, that was a portion of my interview with Mike Lindell. You can find the entire podcast on Demand with jenna [email protected] Click podcast and then On Demand. Or you can find it wherever you. And as always, you can reach me and my team. Jennaafr.net.

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