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Jenna Ellis: U.S. constitution obligates government to protect God's rights

Jenna Ellis in the morning on American Family Radio. I love talking about the things of God. Because of truth and the biblical worldview, the U.S. constitution obligates our government to preserve and protect the rights that our founders recognize come from God, our creator, not our government. I believe that scripture in the Bible is very clear that God is the one that raised up each of you, and God has allowed us to be brought here to this specific moment in time. This is Jenna Ellis in the Morning. Morning.

Jenna Ellis: Good morning. Well, it is Thursday, June 18, and Trump has signed the memorandum of understanding, with Iran early in Versailles. That news broke last night, and we'll have more on that later in the program.

Rape Gang Inquiry Report examines targeting of vulnerable white British girls by Pakistani gangs

But first, Britain is having a real, moment of having to reconcile with the fact that it has a huge immigration problem. And Rupert Lowe, who is a member of Parliament, released, what is titled the Rape Gang Inquiry Report, and it is concluded, the first phase of this, of its work. And this is coming from the introduction. It was established to examine one of the most horrendous scandals in the long history of our country. The systematic targeting of vulnerable girls, overwhelmingly white British, by predominantly Muslim Pakistani gangs across towns and cities up and down the nation. The evidence presented throughout the hearings confirmed what had long been known, but repeatedly denied by many in the political class. the inquiry welcomed girls, boys, men and women of all races and religions to testify to their experience and to gain a complete picture of the rape gang phenomenon. And, essentially what this report, concluded was that, that, while there were over 250,000 victims, approximately 87% of the abusers, and, the predators were predominantly, with Muslim names and, even higher, of Pakistani origin. And so, as a Rupert Lowe writes in the forward, Britain doesn't have a racism problem. It has an immigration problem. And so let's welcome in, Calvin Robinson, who's a parish priest and radio host and, formerly from the UK now resides in the United States. And so, Kelvin, I really appreciate, your perspective, having formerly lived in the UK but also being a Christian and understanding that, I think this is so accurate that the whole premise of having an open border and simply welcoming in, you know, anyone, is truly having a profound harm and effect that, now the British government has just turned a blind eye on, for apparently a really long time. So what do you make of this report?

Calvin Robinson: It shocked me to my core, to be honest, Jenna. I reported yesterday after reading through it, and, it's the worst thing I've ever read. It's one of the worst things that's ever happened to our country. And I'm still getting over the shock that that mainstream media still does not want to cover this. There have been splatters across a couple of apparently conservative newspapers, but the vast majority of, news programs on television and newspapers have not wanted to cover this massive scandal that over a quarter of a million white British young, mostly working, have been systematically groomed, abused, raped, tortured for years. And it's been covered by the establishment, covered by the police, the social workers, the teachers, the politicians, the media. And it is still going on today, which is the worst of it. I'm just. I can't get my head around how there is so much evil that people is right under people's noses, and they still don't want excuse to shine a light on it. Girls as young as 11 years old were regularly groomed and like girls four years abused and occasion. And this is happening across 40% of Britain. At least that's the 40% that we have evidence of. It's probably happening more further widely than that. And this is just our report, Jenna. This is just Britain. These Pakistani Mohammedan grooming gangs, are not just in Britain. They're all over Western Europe. They're here in America too. This is. You can genuinely believe that this is happening in America too. You know, I'm in Michigan and now in the west of the state, but we have a whole city that's been taken over by Muhammadans in Dearborn. We have to take a closer look at what's going on in these communities, because they are. You don't see white people as the same as them. They see them as lesser. this report, thankfully goes on to exemplify Islamic doctrines that give these Mohammedans the excuses or the reasons to do so, because they see the girls as Kuffer, you know, a type of infidel captured. And they teach Islamic superiority. Al walla walla bara. And meaning that the Muhammadan man is the ultimate. The Muhammadan woman has fewer rights. The English woman has even fewer rights than that. And so they justify it all in their religion. And we've allowed them to build these Sharia courts, their own legal system. So they police themselves, and we've stopped policing them out of fear of being called racist. And I know we had, an instance. Was it last week or the week before now? I mean, it happened every week at this point where a young white kid was killed in Britain. Henry Novak was stabbed by a foreigner with a knife, and the police turn up and he says, I've been stabbed. And the police says, don't think you have mate. And this is because the foreigner said he called me something racist. He was racist. That the crime of being racist is worse than the crime of being stabbed or raped or abused or groomed. The police have been indoctrinated and trained for years on DEI to look out for potential racism. And be careful who you arrest, be careful who you speak to. There's one story in this report of a young girl who the police come and in fact I had an interview on my show yesterday with Sammy Woodhouse. She shared her story, the police came and she was a 15 year old girl in bed with a Pakistani Mohammedan man, fully grown man who groomed her, and raped her, and abused her and forced her to do illegal things. The police came into the house after these two had committed a robbery, arrested this 15 year old girl who was in bed with a Pakistani Mamadou man, did not even say anything to the man, didn't arrest him, didn't charge him. It was clear that they both committed a crime together and he'd groomed her into committing this crime alongside her. She ended up with a criminal record. He wasn't just let free, he wasn't even arrested. This is how bad things have gotten. Wow.

Jenna Ellis: And like you, I mean this, this report is shocking and it's horrifying and everything. I mean I hate having to talk about these subjects and I know that, you know, it's, it's very uncomfortable. but at the same time we have to talk about these subjects because the worldview that is implicit in this, that is now influencing and informing police how to conduct their business of law enforcement is very troubling. And how do we even get to the point that rationally and logically people who are members of law enforcement can believe that the crime of racism is somehow worse than the crime of stabbing a young man in a subway. I mean it's just there, there is no way to reconcile that if you actually think about it logically. And yet this is what we're seeing. And there are still advocates of, on the liberal left and you know, the Democrats here in America that still are arguing that racism is the number one harm that can possibly be perpetuated. And it does come from, you know, Marxism, dei to say that the, the perpetrators, the oppressors and aggressors are always the, the whites, the fair skinned and the oppressed in every situation is the minority or you know, whether it's Black, Pakistani, anything that's basically non white. And that worldview has gotten such a foothold that it's like there's this level of cognitive dissonance. I mean, what has happened to society that law enforcement could actually respond like that, like in the Henry Noak situation, and genuinely perform their job based on that worldview and that implicit assumption rather than the reality that this young man was bleeding out in front of them.

Calvin Robinson: It's a modern idol. It really is. We've all been indoctrinated for so long. Don't be racist. Don't be racist. Noticing differences between your community and another community is racist. You know, not wanting foreign invaders to come into your land and take power is racist. And then it eventually gets to the point where we don't want these Pakistani Muhammad and men to rape our girls. That is a racist. It's not just the police, it's all the institutions. You know, as you go, what you, you hear that? the National Health Service was just as bad. 12, 13 year old girls were.

This report names labor politicians who are found guilty of child sexual abuse

Jenna, I read a story today, a testimony a young girl was groomed and abused for a long time. What instance in that? I don't even know if I can say this on radio.

Jenna Ellis: well, I mean we do have a family friendly audience so you know, make it a little, A little you know what's cleansed if you can. Yes, yeah.

Calvin Robinson: the, the abuser used a whiskey to, to abuse her. the whiskey bottle smashed in a place that should never be inside a woman. And this was in a 13 year old girl to hospital. They removed the glass and sent her on her way. There was no questions as to how that got there, what, who she was being sent back to and she was sent back to her abuser. It's just. So that's the National Health Service. There's the schools where these Pakistani Mohammedan men are picking up girls outside school axes and just taking them off to hotels where they rape them. And the schools are letting these girls go, knowing what's happening, where they're going. The companies themselves are getting relicensed regardless of the fact that people know that these are rapists. So the National Health Service, the schools, the taxi firms, the police, all the way up to the politicians. This report names labor politicians who are found guilty of child sexual abuse and child sexual exploitation. So not only were they helping cover it up for the sake of diversity and equity and inclusion, but it's just, this is the most evil. We can perceive it all. It's happening in towns and Cities welcomed by my country. This is the worst thing that's happened to us in a long, long time. And I don't think we're going to see justice this side. I, really do think we should. The wrath and vengeance of the Lord, but at the same time, we should try our best to enact justice. We are called as Christians to be magistrates, to enact justice, to have a lens. What is evil, and this is evil, it needs to stop. This report is a good first step. It makes many recommendations. Strengthen our legal system, how we can retrain our police officers and our nurses and our doctors and our teachers and our, local office who issue tapping licenses. It's got great recommendations in it. But one of those things has to be. We have to consider who we are as a people and what we want to be going forward. And I would say England, Rich Isles has been Christian for over a thousand years. It should remain so that we have to protect all of us. Just yesterday, over 700 men came over on rubber dinghies illegally over the channel. We are seeing them, we can monitor them. We know how many people are entering our country legally and we still can't do anything about it. The establishment won't do anything about it because they think it's racist races to do something about it. We have to move past that now to the point of saying, look, anyone that enters our country legally has to be deported. And this is a loving, compassionate thing to do. It's a nice policy. It's a good policy because we need to protect our daughters, our nieces, our wives, our sisters, our mothers in our country who are being systematically groomed and abused and raped and sometimes even worse. And we're not loving, we're not loving them, and we're not loving our neighbor by letting our neighbor in the first place. The Pope recently said, look, Third worlders should not be looking to go to the west for a better life. They should improve the place where they live too. And yes, we can help, of course we can. But that doesn't mean bringing them all over to us.

Calvin Robinson: Different languages, we have different faith, we have different ideas of what is good and evil, and we need to stand by what we believe to be good, which is gospel.

Jenna Ellis: Yes, so well said. And you know, there is more in this report that I won't repeat on air because it's just so absolutely horrific and, you know, some of the worst horrors of evil. But this shines the light into what needs to happen and that these institutions cannot fail, to protect the women and children that have been, victims. And as you said, I mean, there may not be justice for them this side of heaven, but we can hope and pray that there will be. And I really hope, Calvin Robinson, that this doesn't just spark, you know, outrage on, those of us who are willing to talk about it, but that it actually prompts action. And this isn't just, you know, one of those things that's in the media for a little bit and then we sort of move on with our day. I mean, there has to be real solutions to the problem of immigration in the UK and also here in the United States. That has to be one of the Trump administrations and Congress, mainly Congress's top, top priorities. And we have to pray for that, especially as the midterms are coming up, because we know if the Democrats get, ah, back in control of Congress, they're not going to do anything legislatively. and we can only hope and pray that Republicans will care enough to govern. But, this report is just horrific. Really appreciate it. Calvin Robinson, you can follow him on X. And we will be right back with more.

Missouri Attorney General Katherine Hanaway sues baby monitor manufacturer over security concerns

Welcome back to Jenna Ellis in the Morning on American Family Radio.

Jenna Ellis: Welcome back. Well, Missouri Attorney General Catherine Hanaway has filed a lawsuit against Lorex Corporation, which is a baby monitor and home camera manufacturer, for allegedly concealing material tied ties to the Chinese military and the Chinese Communist Party or the ccp. State officials are alleging that despite the US Department of Defense or Department of War, designating Lorax's former owner as a Chinese military company, Lorax continued using their hardware and software. So researchers examining Lorax firmware discovered it was routing data straight to these Chinese systems, creating a national security threat that could give the Chinese government remote access to private, intimate data and voice recordings of Missouri families. this is just awful. And the attorney General, ah, posted on X. Families and retailers like Costco, Best Buy, and Amazon are being lied to. Lorax, a leading manufacturer of baby monitors and home cameras, is concealing material ties to the CCP and Chinese military. So we are taking them to court. And Attorney General Hanaway joins me now. this is really an invasion of privacy.

Catherine Hanaway: Absolutely. Jenna, thanks so much for having me on again. It's kind of unbelievable that this company would want to look into the most private places of our homes and look at specifically, what's happening with our most cherished newborns. And, of course, when people are with their children, they have, they talk to other people. They might be on the phone and it isn't happening just in Missouri. It's happening all over the country. If you look at the postings that we've made and see pictures of this camera, it will be very familiar to many of your listeners. And so we're very concerned that, Lorax has represented to the public that privacy is a priority for them and that their disclosures suggest that they're keeping the information private while at the very same time getting components from Dawa and having software that routes information to Dawa, which is a company that the U.S. department of War has said is tied to the Chinese Communist government.

Jenna Ellis: this is just incredibly shocking. And you are advocating on behalf of Missouri families. but this seems to be part of a broader nationwide issue because, clearly these products, you know, are. I think that at least they're sold nationwide.

Catherine Hanaway: They are sold nationwide, you know, very mainline retailers like Costco, Best Buy, Amazon and Nebraska was the first state to file suit on this. They've been super helpful to us in preparing our lawsuit. And I suspect that not unlike the litigation against opioids that we're going to see more and more states join on to this because, nobody wants, the hand that rocks the cradle being spied on by the Chinese.

Jenna Ellis: No. And I mean, it's just, it's shocking to think that, this kind of data breach and security breach, could even be possible. And, and so what kind of access could the Chinese government real realistically have in American homes? I mean, is. Are we talking about, you know, actual video or is. Or. I mean, we're all familiar with now. I mean, I think everybody knows, you know, our iPhones listen to us because we get all of the ads of just conversations we have. I don't even have to type anything into my phone, for it to then, you know, pop up if I'm having a conversation. I'll probably. I'll get a Costco ad after this conversation. But realistically. Yeah. So what info can they get?

Catherine Hanaway: Yeah, they actually can get live, streaming video and audio and archived footage. So it's pretty much everything. And, you know, I'm, particularly worried about anybody who might have these devices who has particularly sensitive information that they, you know, might be discussing at home with their spouse or something else. And the Chinese are good. They're very talented spies. And, they identify the people who have the most valuable information to them and that's who they're going to target.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. And, the U.S. department of War, as we mentioned, had already flagged Dawa, the company. So why wasn't more done at the federal level to prevent this. I mean, we've been talking about China as a national security threat for a really long time.

Catherine Hanaway: Well, because Lorax has been a pretty talented fraudster. So Dawa, at one point owned Lorex. They appeared to divide themselves. Lorex was spun out as a separate company. They provide all these assurances in their disclosures that they are private, but in point of fact, the components are still coming from Dalla.

Todd Starnes: And.

Catherine Hanaway: And there is a backdoor through which all the information from Lorax can stream right back to Dawa. And so, ah, Lorax, I think, was convincing to people that they had separated themselves from the Chinese military company Dahua. But in point of fact, they have not. Wow.

Missouri Attorney General Katherine Hanaway files suit against Chinese companies over camera fraud

Jenna Ellis: And so are these devices that are just, I mean, do they have to be connected to WI Fi in order to transmit this kind of data? Or what should people be looking for to, prevent this in their own homes?

Catherine Hanaway: Yeah. So for the most part, to be able to transmit within their home, they have to be connected to WI Fi. And so for it to be useful to you as a baby monitor, you're going to want, it connected to your WI Fi. So my suggestion is that the way that your listeners combat this is just get rid of these cameras. And I know it's been an expense to buy it. When you have a new baby, money is tight, but it's too important to protect your family and just go find a different kind of camera. And, that's why we're seeking damages in our case. We're seeking to recover $1,000 per Missouri family that has purchased one of these, cameras. Total damages we're asking for is $1.8 million because we want to make the families who've gone out and bought these cameras whole.

Jenna Ellis: And that makes so much sense. I'm speaking with Missouri Attorney General Catherine Hanaway. And do you think that this case exposes more gaps in how both, on the state and federal level, we regulate foreign technology in American homes?

Catherine Hanaway: There are gaps, but I really don't think that this is, this isn't one of the things where we should be super critical of the government for not moving fast enough to combat, technology. Technology is moving so fast. The companies who want to spy on us are moving so fast. I think it's more of a situation of we should have a very healthy skepticism and understand that the Chinese are trying to steal our technology, our sensitive information, our national security information, each and every day. That's a fact. when I was in the private sector. I represented one of the largest seed companies in the country. And you would think, well, I mean, who cares about the technology in soybeans and corn? Oh, the Chinese government does very, very much. And thankfully the US Government was able to prosecute several Chinese who were literally going out into test fields to dig up seeds, to reverse engineer them. Because food security is a national security issue and they're looking at every piece of technology they can steal from the United States. The Chinese wants to win. They want to win in, economically. They want to win from a national security perspective. And we have to be on guard all the time.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah. And I'm so thankful that we have, public advocates like you that are, willing to take this kind of action and hold them accountable. And so for this, suit that you filed, and this action beyond what the recovery that you'd like to see for the families that have to go out and, and purchase a new camera and who've been affected by this, I mean we're talking about national security breach, fraud and misrepresentation. are there any other consequences that can be imposed for bad actors?

Catherine Hanaway: Yeah. And it, you know, we're at the very beginning of this case and so we haven't even had discovery yet. But certainly if we can find that this fraud was intentional and it certainly appears to be, there may be some criminal charges that we can bring later and there may be some criminal charges that the federal government can bring. And that's my hope, is that the people who have perpetrated this fraud will be held responsible and can't just write a check and get out of it.

Jenna Ellis: Right. And I mean, and this. I really hope that other states join into this and also that there is, hopefully a more nationwide, pr, Almost like a consumer protection, just public service announcement about this. Because I would think that every parent who has one of these cameras would at least want to be informed so that they can make the decision to unplug it and get a new one. And so, is the Department of War of helping Missouri, and Nebraska facilitate something like that or. I mean, because from your office and thankfully we're connected. But, this is the first time I'm hearing about this and I'm sure for a lot of, the parents that are listening here on American Family Radio, this is the first time they're hearing about it as well.

Catherine Hanaway: The Department of War has been super helpful with information. I do think we are going to see this become a Tidal wave right now. You know, it's like a slow, rolling, water creeping up to the beach. But it is gaining a lot of momentum, and I think we'll see many states and likely the Department of Justice join in. And you're right, we've got to get the word out to parents that, like, hey, you don't want these cameras in your house. This is, the Chinese government looking into your most private places that your most cherished child. And that's just not simply what parents want in these. Those precious days soon after their babies are born.

Jenna Ellis: No, I mean, well, I wouldn't even want my neighbor looking in, you know, to my. My private, space. I mean, this is the whole idea. A reasonable expectation of privacy, why we have constitutional protections, why we should have consumer protections. I mean, this just violates a very core principle, of humanity that we. That one of our rights is a right to privacy, in. Especially in our own homes. And I think, you know, we're seeing that in the public sector with everybody having iPhones and can record anything, at any time. We. We may not have as much privacy as, at least when I was growing up, but certainly, certainly in the confines of our own homes and our own bedrooms. And so, as parents are listening to this, if they get rid of their, Lorax products, can they trust necessarily, if a. If a camera is made in the United States or how do they, you know, go about, if they need a baby monitor, how can they go about selecting one that they can be confident isn't transmitting data to any third party, but especially the Chinese Communist Party?

Catherine Hanaway: Yeah, it's. I mean, I can't give you a brand and say, this one, for sure is safe. But I would be looking for products made in the United States or made, frankly, anywhere but China, and looking for companies that don't have other ties to Chinese companies. And, Jenna, your point is so right that we as Americans have not only an expectation, but a constitutional protection to be secure and private in our homes. Every day, prosecutors, you know, face, challenges under the Fourth Amendment, to police searches. You know, our own government can't just look into our homes without a warrant, and we certainly don't want the Chinese government doing it.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, absolutely. And so, we're almost out of time, but Attorney General, Hanaway, one last question.

Attorney General Catherine Hanaway says parents should be careful with baby monitor cameras

So what's the one thing, that every American parent using a baby monitor should understand, or even cameras in general, should understand after this, when that's kind of necessary? I Think in today's ah, society and how we use technology but just to be careful maybe and not assume that these things are always safe.

Catherine Hanaway: Absolutely. I would be very careful about conversations you have in front of the camera particularly, you know, some of these cameras are sort of one way that they're picking up data from the baby's nursery and you can see and hear it and it's transmitted to you wherever you are, but it doesn't go the other way from where you're sitting and maybe having conversation back into the nursery. And so you want to be sure that you have those one way cameras and get rid of the Lorax cameras. Wow.

Jenna Ellis: Well, thank you so much for coming on this morning and for filing this action. We'll certainly follow along and thank you for letting parents know and hopefully this can get m, get even more broad to all parents in the United States to get rid of these products and to be secure in their homes. So you can follow a turn. Attorney General Catherine Hanaway at AGC Hanaway. And we will be right back with more.

The US and Iran have signed their memorandum of understanding, according to Axios

welcome back to Jenna Ellis in the Morning on American Family Radio.

Jenna Ellis: Welcome back. And the US and Iran have signed the pieces deal ahead of schedule. This coming from Axios. The US and Iran have remotely signed their memorandum of understanding to end the conflict and open the Strait of Hormuz. And the agreement is now in effect. Two U.S. officials told Axios. So President Trump signed the agreement, one official said and Trump later confirmed it. And according to Axios, why this matters, the signing was supposed to happen in Switzerland on Friday. But a diplomat from a mediating country and a second source familiar told Axios earlier Wednesday that there had been discussions about signing and implementing it sooner. And another factor may have been political pressure on the White House to actually release the memorandum's text. And so while there have been some sources including some from CNN and a White House correspondent saying that on X yesterday that they had obtained a copy of the agreement and claimed that this was a 14 point memorandum of understanding, Steven Chung, who is the White House communications director responded to that and said the supposed text of the MoU that was obtained by CNN does not reflect the language of the actual mou. So still waiting on that. But then coming from cnbc, Trump hits back at critics as Iran peace deal fuels debate over US Concessions. And even among Republicans there has been some debate as well if this is the best course for the U.S. if this is the best course for Israel, of course, which is an Entirely separate question, or if this is just kicking the can down the road a little bit.

Todd Starnes: Nobody knows what's in the Iran deal

So let's welcome in Todd Starnes, who is a, ah, radio host and author and also a Newsmax host and, one of our favorite commentators here. And you hear him, on the live show every morning in the news breaks. So, Todd, your thoughts overall on, on this piece still, I mean, my opinion overall, while, you know, we've talked about a lot of the nuances here, and once we get the, we can all read that and possibly parse out some other things, but I think that, you know, Trump is literally probably doing the best that he can considering Iran's posture and, you know, all of the pieces involved.

Todd Starnes: well, good morning, Jenna. And, you know, this is, it's a very strange story, and this has really been a weird story to follow over the past couple of weeks now. the irony here is, and everybody's out there are talking about this, memorandum of understanding. Here's the reality. Nobody knows what's in it because the actual, the actual memorandum of understanding has not formally been released. I mean, you know, there are, the reports are that senior White House officials, you know, actually read the memo to reporters, and everything out there may actually be very accurate. But the reality is, if you go to the White House website right now, there is no memorandum of understanding. If you go to President Trump's Truth Social page, there is no memorandum of understanding. So in reality, everybody talking about it may not even. Well, no, I don't think anybody knows what's actually in it. and that's the, that's the rub, and that's the problem. This is an administration that has taken great pride in something called transparency, and they have just been less than transparent when it comes to this deal with Iran. And it is a, it is a problem because, some of the things that are allegedly in it, would make the deal almost as bad as the one that Barack Hussein Obama made with Iran when we sent them pallets of cash back in the day. So, I think there's just a lot of nervous Nellies. Here's, my official position on this. I trust our president, and he's never given me a reason not to trust him. So I'm just going to step out in faith and say I trust the president, and, you know, we'll see how all of this plays out. You know, the other side of this, Jenna, if it doesn't play out. And again, when you look at the timetable here, and the president even said this that if Iran doesn't, you know, if Iran doesn't go along, you know, we're going to bomb them or whatever. That puts us perilously close to the midterm elections, and there may still not be resolution here. And that is a major, major political gamble on the side of the White House.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, 100%. And I think you're absolutely right about transparency. And does it strike you as odd that in the. I mean, you know, this has been now six years that Trump has been in office total, almost. And he is known for transparency. I mean, almost too much. It's, it's like we know everything he's thinking at any given moment. And some people are saying, yeah, maybe we shouldn't know that much. but for something as big as this, is it. Does it strike you as odd that the White House hasn't released this, or may there be a diplomatic reason why the text hasn't been formally released yet? Like maybe they're, you know, regardless of what he said, signed, now that there may still be some negotiations ongoing?

Todd Starnes: Well, there is some speculation that even the President himself may not necessarily be sold on this. And, there's a lot of body language that we probably need to be paying attention to. and just some unusual. You know, I kept saying it was weird, for the longest time you had Pete Hegseth and Marco Rubio, our great Secretary of State and War Secretary out there. they were taking the lead on, you know, on dealing with Iran. And they want, they were really hardliners. Then you had J.D. vance. And there is some reporting out there saying J.D. vance and Jared Kushner, the President's son in law, were some of those most opposed to any further hostilities against Iran. And it looks as though over the past couple of weeks that JD Vance has been front and center. You would think that J.D. vance is the Secretary of State. When you look at some of the, photos and the videos coming out, Rubio does not look very happy, at all. And the president, it was interesting because the President made some sort of a crack about it. This doesn't work. You know, it's basically throwing J.D. vance on the bus. And that may be what's going on here, is that the President's rolling the dice. And at the end of the day, if it, you know, J.D. vance could be the guy that has to follow the sword here. So it's all very, very strange. But why haven't they released the memorandum? And I think the reason why is because it really is as Bad as people are saying it is.

Jenna Ellis: and I hope that that isn't the case, that there is some other reason. But it did also strike me as odd, and I think that's. And strange is a great characterization that, Rubio hasn't been, ah, front and center. I mean, we haven't gotten a lot of, exposts and, you know, some of that. And it's been more J.D. vance, who quite frankly does not have any experience in, you know, foreign policy and, you know, all of this kind of deal making. it's interesting to me as well that Jared Kushner is now, front and center and more involved after being, so closely tied to the Abraham Accords back in the first administration. but that was near and dear to his heart. just, you know, based on, his Jewish faith and actually working in the White House at the time where he's been a lot more hands off, doesn't have an official White House role in this administration. so should it concern listeners and concern, Republicans that maybe there's not this level of cohesiveness, among the White House? I mean, I remember from my days with, with the first administration that, you know, there. There doesn't necessarily, There isn't necessarily cohesion. You know, there can be a lot of, different opinions in the background. And, you know, once the president makes a decision, of course everyone gets on board and supports that because that's, you know, the role of working for him. But, But it's interesting to see that not a lot of information has come out and, And perhaps that signals that there may be some other issues going on, at least within, the advisors and particularly, as you mentioned, you know, Marco Rubio and the Secretary of State.

Todd Starnes: Yeah, look, it's a fair question. I will say this. One of the odd things, and again, going back to the whole weirdness of all of this, that, there are surrogates of the administration that are out there and they are actively smacking around anybody who dares question or raises, you know, raises questions about anything. And. And that's a little troubling and a little unusual. I haven't seen that sort of, that sort of behavior, in the past. So that's sort of an odd. That's sort of an odd thing. you know, and the other component here is that you've got a lot of folks that just do not like the President, and they haven't. And I would throw Vice President Mike Pence on the very top of that. Pile. And those folks are out there, you know, making the, making the, headlines there, and on places like Fox News Channel, for example, where Fox News is pretty much attacked the President's plan here, you have to go back to the original, the original point that the Memorandum of Understanding still has not been released. So all of this is based on conjecture until we actually see it for ourselves and how all this plays out. At the end of the day, it's very simple. If, you know, if this works, it's great for the Republicans. gas prices will go down, grocery prices will go down, inflation will get back under control, and we should have a pretty good midterm election. If it doesn't, Democrats are going to control the White House in November.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, and that's the really scary part.

Todd Starnes: There's frustration between White House and Israel over Lebanon

And what do you make Todd Starnes of Netanyahu's response? Because clearly, you know, Israel is an ally to the United States, but there, in his remarks, Israel's maintaining a level of independence and exercising their own sovereignty instead of ceding to the United States and just basically saying, well, we'll go along with, what the US Thinks is advisable. and I haven't seen anything either way, to let us know whether, Netanyahu, and some of the Israeli leadership have actually read the Memorandum of Understanding. So is it possible that his response is also kind of a. Well, since we don't know, we're going to not trust anything that the Iranians do, even though now it's kind of put him in a position that is not quite in lockstep with the, Trump administration.

Todd Starnes: So there is. It's not really not bad blood. It's just. There's just some really deep, frustration right now between the White House and Israel over Lebanon. I will say this. If we had. Let's just say that there are some folks down in Mexico, and every single day they were firing rockets into Brownsville, Texas. Do you think the United States would just sit there and do nothing? No, of course not. We would be firing back. We would be defending our people. And so that's what Israel's doing here. but on the other side of all of this, you know, Israel, you know, wanting to be independent, well, they can't pick and choose when they want to be independent. I mean, they either need our help or they don't. And if they do need our help, that help does have to come with conditions. I mean, we're not the United States of Israel. And I am one of. I'm a Very, very passionate defender and supporter of the nation of Israel. but again, you know, the president. I understand President Trump's frustration here. He's trying to work out a peace deal behind the scenes, and the next thing you know, Israel's firing rockets again. So it is, Look, it's going to be a delicate dance, what can I say? and Israel may very well be in the same boat everybody else's, and we just haven't seen the memorandum. And until we do, it's just all, you know, conjecture and speculation.

Jenna Ellis: Yeah, And I think that that's really well said that, you know, we aren't the United States of Israel. And obviously, you know, you and I and, and other theologically based, evangelical Christians, support the nation of Israel from both a theological perspective, but also from, the perspective that they've been our longstanding historic ally. and there. But as you rightly point out, if they're going to ask for and utilize our help, that can and frankly should come with some conditions. And so it's been very interesting also to see, some of the response from American who have, It appears to be more of a loyalty through their Jewish background. you know, people like Mark Levin, for example, you know, who's a good friend, and I really respect him a lot. I, think we just differ on the. The aspect of. Of how the United States is obligated to support literally anything that Israel wants just because it's Israel. I, think that you can parse some distinctions there. So it's interesting to see how some, even Republicans are reacting to this apparent, disagreement between, you know, Netanyahu and Trump and how that will further play out. Do you think that that will have, In the larger conversation, do you think that that will have any sort of practical effect on the midterms, or is this more of just, you know, maybe there's a little bit of grumbling. But at the same time, I think people like Levin and others, like you have been, you know, very ardent supporters of President Trump and ultimately would say, you know, yeah, until the MOU we get that language and it proves otherwise, we will trust him, to know that this is in at least the United States best interests.

Todd Starnes: Well, I'm a hardliner. I'll just put all my cards out on the table here. I'm a hardliner. I believe that we have been at war with Iran since 1979, when they stormed the embassy and took Americans hostage. And I believe that we should have dealt with the situation back in 1979, and every single President. President has kicked that can down the road. So when the President did declare whatever Operation Epic Fury, and whether it is or is not a war, they're still debating that whatever it is, we should have blown the living daylights out of them. And my frustration has been that we haven't done that. And I mean, if you go back, you can count the number of times that the President said, you know, we've achieved victory, we have air superiority, you know, we control everything, you know, we. And then all of a sudden we're going into these ceasefires. Well, the ceasefire. And maybe we need a working definition of what ceasefire means, because it means that you stop shooting each other. We've done that time and time and time again and the Iranians have not. And the reason why is because you cannot trust the Iranians. So then when you've got folks coming out, like what happened with Israel, for example, and Netanyahu, saying, oh, we want to be independ, but we need your help. So when you criticize that, you get attacked by that wing and all of a sudden you're called an anti Semite. I've actually been called an anti Semite. When you raise questions about, oh, can we see the memorandum? I'm getting attacked by Trump's surrogates now saying, oh, you're really a closet Never Trumper. That's the most ridiculous thing. So there's a bunch, there's a group of us in the middle that say, you know what? Yeah, you can support Israel, you can support President Trump and you can, you know, want Israel blown off the face of the earth and still be a patriot. At least that's what I think. But, but it's just a mess right now. It's a great big mess. So my philosophy has been trust this president. He has never given me any reason not to trust him. And the reality is, if this is a bad deal, he's going to get impeached in January. It's that simple.

Jenna Ellis: Well said. Well, we've got to end it here. But, Todd Starnes, isn't it amazing how there isn't a lot of room anymore for nuance? And this is exactly the type of situation that needs more nuance. but I think that you boiled this down, absolutely, precisely, correctly, that if it's a great deal, then, it'll be a great deal. And, and if not, then, if the Democrats get control, even just of the House, I mean, it will just be nonstop impeachments and, nothing else will get done. So we need to be praying for the president, for our country, for this whole situation. So, Todd Stearns, thanks so much. You can follow him, on social media and [email protected] and as always, you can reach me and my team. Jenna FR dot.