Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildman
>> Steve Jordahl: Today's Issues continues on AFR with your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome, back, everybody, to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network this Tuesday, May 6th. I'm Tim Wildmon with Ed Vitagliano and, Ray Pritchard. Raised in Kansas City. We be in Tupelo and, Steve Paisley. Jordan.
>> Steve Jordahl: Good morning, everybody. Hey, Ray. I hadn't seen you yet today. You look healthy and well, pretty good.
>> Tim Wildmon: How are you doing?
>> Steve Jordahl: Good. I'm doing well. Got a lot of sleep, so. Yeah. Good.
It would take an estimated 3,539 years to walk to Mars
>> Tim Wildmon: What's going on your world, Steve?
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, I heard you guys talking this, last, session. Half, hour and everything about Mars. Right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Steve Jordahl: I wanted to double check your math, so. About how long it takes to get there. So I did. I chose to look it up on Google Maps. I looked it up on Google Maps, surprisingly said, you can't drive there.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right. So I looked up walking directions. It would take an estimated 3,539 years to walk the 137 million miles to Mars. But you probably want to double that because that assumes you're walking 24 hours a day.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, that's.
>> Tim Wildmon: That.
>> Tim Wildmon: You can't do that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That's very helpful information.
>> Steve Jordahl: I just do my part. That's right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And another 3, 700 years to get back, I guess if you didn't.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, it depends how many times you stop.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, then.
>> Tim Wildmon: You'Re stopping all the time.
>> Steve Jordahl: All the time.
>> Tim Wildmon: You got this whole defying gravity thing. You have to deal with forever leaving the Earth's atmosphere.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Let. Let Elon figure that out.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, right. That can be very frustrating.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: You know what I'm saying?
>> Ed Vitagliano: You can't overcome gravity. Yeah, that's happened to me many times.
>> Tim Wildmon: You're not gonna make it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Guess what? Gravity. Gravity won every time.
>> Tim Wildmon: The only human to ever defy gravity was Michael Jordan.
>> Ed Vitagliano: That,
>> Tim Wildmon: Besides the Lord himself.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Steve Jordahl: Apparently there was some wizard, of Oz, a witch in. In, the. What's the new movie out the Wiz. The wizard of Oz. The Wicked.
>> Tim Wildmon: We didn't go see it.
>> Steve Jordahl: There was a. They Defy Gravity. There's a song about it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I. I've never.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you know, that's just.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Did you go see it?
>> Steve Jordahl: No.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay. I was gonna say I'm gonna go see a movie, though, if it's named Wicked.
>> Tim Wildmon: I'm not even going.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm not even asking the Lord.
>> Tim Wildmon: You don't want to be in that theater when the Lord comes back.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right. Absolutely.
>> Tim Wildmon: No need to pray. Over that.
So let me get. You're asking me if you can go see a movie called Wicked
>> Ed Vitagliano: So let me get.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, they had to make the rapture.
>> Tim Wildmon: Why not?
>> Tim Wildmon: He was, in the words, he m. Wicked. He was watching when the rapture occurred.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, my God.
>> Tim Wildmon: He got left behind.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, absolutely.
>> Steve Jordahl: Lot run into something like that, too, I think.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Ah, his wife, His wife turned to a pillar.
>> Tim Wildmon: Just saying, people.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. If you go see. If you.
>> Tim Wildmon: If, we better move on. Yeah, I would say we move on right here.
>> Ed Vitagliano: You're asking me if you can go see a movie called Wicked. Okay.
>> Tim Wildmon: And we're not talking the Boston. Like. Like Clam Chow. This classic daughter is wicked.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Maybe you should go see the movie. No way.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. So. So no. anyway, so that was our movie.
>> Tim Wildmon: Review for the day.
Ed says meme of Donald Trump dressed as the pope was inappropriate
>> Tim Wildmon: There you go.
>> Steve Jordahl: Today's brought to you by. All right. Hey, so you guys have probably seen the. The left is blowing up over the fact that Donald Trump. The White House. Anyway. Posted a meme of Donald Trump as.
>> Tim Wildmon: The pope, and now Ed says that was inappropriate.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, I thought. I thought it was not a wise. Well, but I'm about to get rebuked, aren't I? By the president.
>> Steve Jordahl: You're welcome to have your own opinion about it. I just find it fascinating that all of a sudden, the White House, which is. Or, I'm sorry, the Democrats, which are stringently pro abortion and, not all that godly, all of a sudden, they're defending Catholicism as if they're, like traditional Catholics. But anyway, a reporter did ask the president about, who is right now meeting with Canadian, Prime minister at the White House. and, they asked him, this was yesterday about this meme, and this was his response. Cut.
>> Tim Wildmon: 10 Catholics were not so happy about.
>> Steve Jordahl: The image of you looking like the pope.
>> Donald Trump: Oh, I see. You mean they can't take a joke. You don't mean the Catholics. You mean the fake news media, not the Catholics. Loved it. I had nothing to do with it. Somebody made up a picture of me dressed like the pope, and they put it out on the Internet. that's not me that did it. I have no idea where it came from. Maybe it was AI. But I, know nothing about it. I just saw it, last evening, actually. My wife thought it was cute. She said, isn't that nice?
>> Steve Jordahl: My question about.
>> Donald Trump: Actually, I would not be able to be married, though that would be a lot. I'd have. To the best of my knowledge, popes aren't big on getting married, are, they. Not that we know of. No. No. I think it's a fake news media. That's you know, they. They're fakers.
>> Steve Jordahl: My question, though, sir, was about the fact that it was put out on the White House account, even though it was AI Generated. It was a joke. It was a meme. Does it at all diminish the substance of the official White House account to have it go out on.
>> Donald Trump: Give me a break. It was just. Somebody did it in fun. It's fine. Have to have a little fun, don't you, Ed?
>> Tim Wildmon: You're against fun, I guess, because you. You didn't like it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I wish I could do a really good Trump invitation because that was funny. He says Catholics loved it. You know, just.
>> Tim Wildmon: And those can't be married.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Clergy. As far as he knows, he couldn't be married.
>> Steve Jordahl: My favorite part of that song was it might have been AI. I. I don't remember pausing in the front suit, but maybe it was AI.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Maybe it was AI. no, listen, I. I thought it was. I. I thought it was inappropriate because Pope Francis just died and they are looking to get another Pope and. But, I'm not gonna lose sleep over it. You know, the president obviously thinks it's just a joke. we just have a. Just a difference of opinion.
>> Tim Wildmon: You mean he's not really running for Pope? I mean.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, according to him, he is.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I didn't talk to any Catholics about that.
>> Steve Jordahl: I heard some chime in, and they weren't that.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So that kind of thing goes on all. I think we're pretty seared. Yeah, those kind of, What do you call them? Memes or whatever.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Like. Yeah, memes. I remember someone sending me. This was back 10 years ago.
>> Tim Wildmon: Now, if you'd have put him up on the cross or something like that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, absolutely.
>> Tim Wildmon: That would have been. That have been blasphemous and sacrilegious, and I'm sure even President Trump would have condemned that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, go ahead. No. And I. And my face appeared in the. In a Batman costume. Now, I liked that.
You wore the Batman costume to work one day
I saved that. Someone New York. Someone here at work did it. They. There was one of the, one of the, Batman movies had come out, and there was my face.
>> Steve Jordahl: I think there was a subtle way of telling you they wish you wore a mask. Cover up the face a little bit.
>> Tim Wildmon: Could be that was the day you wore the Batman costume to work.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: And you stood out. No, you.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Maybe it was AI. I don't know. Maybe I dress up.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's when you said, I'm going to stand in line for tickets with my costume.
>> Ed Vitagliano: No, no, I'm not I'm not that far gone. You know, you'd be waiting two days, you know, sleeping concert tickets or. Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: When a, A, superhero movie's coming out.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: And people dress like the characters.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I, I have embarrassed my family plenty, but I've never done that.
>> Steve Jordahl: What worried me is when you got up on the roof, said you're going to jump off, but, you know, we talked out of that at least.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
University of Minnesota is testing a gene therapy against colon cancer
All right, let's move on.
>> Tim Wildmon: Moving on. Moving right along.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm uncomfortable with all the attention.
>> Steve Jordahl: I got some good news for y'all. This is kind of a cool story. There's, a woman named Emma Demery. Emma Demery was, diagnosed with stage four colon cancer. And anybody who knows, anything about cancer. Colon cancer is one of the hardest cancers to hit and, to be cured of. To be cured of.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: And so, when she was 23, she was diagnosed. They found a softball sized, tumor and another golf ball sized tumor. And, she had multiple surgeries, she had chemotherapy, she had radiation and all. The whole cocktail of everything she had. Nothing helped. She was given, another couple years at the most to live. And then she tried a new, therapy. University of Minnesota was doing a trial and it was basically a gene therapy. the researchers are calling it the next frontier of immunotherapy. they say why most of those. To target the outside of the cells. They've found a way to target the inside of the cells. So what they did is the cells were retrieved from the cancer. They were altered in a lab using a CRISPR Cas9 gene editing technology. CRISPR is the way that they.
>> Tim Wildmon: I know what it is.
>> Steve Jordahl: They splice. Go ahead. So they, they, they spliced the gene to make it more effective at hitting the tumor, at, at getting a tumor. And they put the, the spliced genes back in her body, it attacked the tumor, and she is now cancer free.
>> Ed Vitagliano: we talked about this in our story meeting this morning. That was kind of mind blowing. now how about the other people in the trial? Because it was a limited number of people in this trial.
>> Steve Jordahl: All we know is 13 or 12 patients in the trial. and, Demery by far had the best results. So not all of them. I don't know. It doesn't list. I didn't list if it's a nine.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Page and her, and the fact that she's cancer free is being attributed to this. Can this gene therapy.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah. Now when you get to human trials on something like this with 12 humans, that I believe is the first you have to start with the chemical concept and you start it and then you go to animals and everything. By the time that all it's refined to the point where it looks like it's going to work, then you try it on a small number of humans. 12.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Unless it's a vaccine.
>> Steve Jordahl: Right? Unless it's a vaccine.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm sorry, COVID Vaccine. Did I say that out loud?
>> Steve Jordahl: You put it on millions. but they're, getting this thing dialed in, I think, to the point where this could be a very effective treatment of cancer. That's very hard to get.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, listen, the colonoscopies. Colonoscopy, you know, that is. That saved probably millions of people's lives.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. It's a screening. I've had it.
>> Tim Wildmon: Many people listening have had it. You've had it, right?
>> Ed Vitagliano: I've had it because my mom died of colon cancer. So my sisters and I have, very early on we started getting colonoscopies on a more. Earlier and a more frequent basis than most people. Most people need to get one at.
>> Tim Wildmon: Why? Is it hereditary?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, it can be genetic and genetic, I mean. Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, if every. If not anything goes well, I have some scientists at the University of Minnesota I'd like to introduce you to.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, well, I go like every three years, so.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right. You've had that colonized cold?
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Oh, six or seven times. Because they always find.
>> Steve Jordahl: Because you find it so enjoyable.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you know what, you do, Well, we all know what you have to do to get ready to go to the doctor there. But. But you know, it's, it's. It's a mirror. It's a modern day miracle medicine that they can do that and prevent people from getting colon cancer. Because, when I first went about eight years ago or so, they found like three polyps or something like. That's what they call them, the doctors.
>> Tim Wildmon: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: Which I don't know if they're precancerous or I don't know what potentially. but that's the reason they go. They get rid of those.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.
>> Tim Wildmon: And then they set you up for, you know, five years or three. I think it's five years or three years, depending on.
Everybody needs to screen for cancer, Tim says, over age 50
>> Ed Vitagliano: You're probably five years every five.
>> Tim Wildmon: So I got to go back next. I think next year or something like that. But, yeah, I mean, what I'm saying is that is a. Everybody needs to do that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Over age 50, I think, is when they recommend.
>> Tim Wildmon: Over age 50.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, everybody needs to do that because not Every kind of cancer you can, you, know you can screen for, but there are some, like colon cancer.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And that's, that's not the same as like, they do have these whole body scans and things like that, but I think you are exposing your, your body to radiation or whatever.
>> Tim Wildmon: Some, of them.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Some of them. But this is not that. This is a camera. Okay. So your body is not being exposed to high doses of this, that or the other. it's m. It's not pleasant to prepare for it. But the 20 minutes sleep is probably the best you'll get in about every, every in two years, it takes about.
>> Tim Wildmon: Two seconds to take effect. What is that? Some kind of, what is that? Right. Some kind of gas they give you.
>> Tim Wildmon: There, or they give you a little shot, you know, through that. Yeah. And it goes into your system and, and the next thing you know, you don't even know.
>> Ed Vitagliano: They, they say count backwards from 100 and you make it to like 97.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. You're gone.
>> Ed Vitagliano: And then you are gone.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. take some of that home with you. It's, listen, if you, if you need sleep.
>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, let me just add a word here because all of us. Circling back around Steve, to your story, I'm coming up on the, the one year anniversary of the, of my cancer treatments. And I think about this. You think about it every day, right? You think every single day. All of us know people, all of us.
>> Tim Wildmon: Cancer is everywhere.
>> Tim Wildmon: It's everywhere. It's everywhere. We're living in days of absolute miracles that they can do things now that, that 100 years ago, 50 years, no, 10 years ago, five years ago, we couldn't dream of. And to imagine, Steve, that these doctors have figured out a way to get inside those cancer cells, it's just fantastic. And we ought to, we ought to be very grateful, very grateful for things like this. And we pray for. I mean, colon cancer is one of the toughest ones. Liver cancer, very tough.
>> Ed Vitagliano: pancreatic.
>> Tim Wildmon: Pancreatic, Very tough. But they're making progress. All the, the, the mapping of the human genome has opened up, opened up the human cell. And we're living in. And for some of my friends, I'm thinking of one person right now who's struggling with kidney cancer, but he survived for 10 years. And, and I'm praying for. He's a very dear and very close friend. I'm praying for him. Hold on, because the genetic cavalry is coming your direction. Hold on, because it's coming.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yeah, it's interesting. There's two different kinds of responses when this happens. People that,
>> Tim Wildmon: When what happens when you, when you.
>> Steve Jordahl: Get a scientific breakthrough like this, if you get something like this, it's either, oh, look, we are, solving all the problems of science and look how good we are. who needs God? Or you delve in further and you see the amazing engineering that you have to tweak to make it done. How could it be anything but God?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: And, it increases your faith in a God that is allowing us to progress. I don't know what the Tower of Babel was all about, how technological or what they did. It was such a pride thing that God had to say, that's enough and no further, or else they'll reach heaven. but technologically we are, we are rocketing through. AI Is going to be huge in this area. AI, with all these kind of different diseases, it's already making a huge impact on medicine.
>> Tim Wildmon: you think that cancer. I say cancer is everywhere. Maybe it's just because I'm getting older and.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, but it is, Tim.
>> Tim Wildmon: It is. Because you're reading these stories about people in their 20s and 30s, you know.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. they call them turbo cancers.
>> Steve Jordahl: Well, a lot of that out of nowhere might have been introduced by the vaccine. There's a lot of information, a lot of data that says that the vaccine did us no favors when it comes to, those type of cancers.
>> Ed Vitagliano: The COVID vaccine and to your point. Yeah, and we'll, we'll find out probably within five years, a lot about that, about that, that tie in to, what people are saying about cancers and long Covid and all those kinds of things. Because those secrets are gonna, are going to be unlocked.
China now claiming that covet originated in the United States, which I don't believe
Someone's going to talk China. just. I saw something posted that China was now claiming that covet originated in the United States, which I don't believe.
>> Tim Wildmon: Area of 51. That's what they're saying, is it?
>> Ed Vitagliano: Is it? They're saying China.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Area 51.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So, we're going to find out a lot about those kinds of things. But to your point, I, I do hear about a lot of those kind of cancers, affecting young people, and. And extraordinarily unexpectedly high numbers. So.
>> Tim Wildmon: And to go, to go to the point was raised, Are we playing God? Well, who gave the doctors up in Minnesota, the wisdom God? Who gave. Who gave them the insight? God did. I'll tell you. The best doctors I know believe in God. The best researchers I know believe in God. The best scientists are actually the ones who Are most humble who pray and say, lord, give us insight to answer these great questions.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I mean, nobody claimed that engineers were playing God when they figured out about, about, sewage being removed from the living environment so that people don't get, you know, infected with, you know, bacterial, diseases. I mean, that's, Is that playing God? Because for, for thousands of years, human beings lived in close proximity with their own waste.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yes.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Until they, until scientists figured out these, carry germs and shorten your lifespan. That's not playing God. I mean, refrigeration for food.
>> Tim Wildmon: Was that Lister? Wasn't that his name?
>> Tim Wildmon: Right, right.
>> Tim Wildmon: We get Listerine from the word Lister. Could be when he. The one who discovered germs and they.
>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know you, talking about. Yeah, I'm not sure that could. That.
>> Tim Wildmon: That's right, Tim. I think you're right. I can't think of his first name. Steve, get on that.
>> Steve Jordahl: I'm on it, I'm on it.
>> Ed Vitagliano: But, but we don't. I mean, we refrigerate food now to keep it from sp. To. So it doesn't make us sick. That's not playing God. Nobody ever says that when we talk about those kinds of.
>> Tim Wildmon: Is it playing God to try to fly to Mars? No. Who gave you the wisdom, the creativity, the insight to think of that? God did not lead you back to God, not away from him.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.
>> Steve Jordahl: I don't know if this is the discoverer of the germs, but Louis Pasteur is credited with, discovering the germ theory in the 1860s.
>> Tim Wildmon: Anybody can do that. I'm talking about. Yeah, I'm talking about discovering the actual germs. Anybody can have a theory.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, Joseph, Mr. Joseph Lister was a prominent British surgeon and medical scientist who lived from 1827 to 1912. He is best known for pioneering antiseptic surgery, which significantly reduced the mortality rates of surgical operations by introducing carbolic acid as a sterilizer for surgical instruments and patients. Skin. This is an AI generated answer, by the way. And, ah, it does list sources like the Science Museum and.
>> Tim Wildmon: That sounds right. It sounds right.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So that, that's fascinating, Lister.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but I think that's where we get Listerine from.
>> Steve Jordahl: Press antiseptic.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, but, I was just kidding about Louis Pasteur. He, he discovered, he, he, he, he had the germ. He was the first one who. When did he live, by the way?
>> Steve Jordahl: He, he was born in 1822 and died in 1895.
>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, but, but I mean, he's the one you you said he's. He's credited with what now?
>> Ed Vitagliano: The theory.
>> Steve Jordahl: Discovery of the germ theory in 1860s. So, that'd be probably the medical. More scientific medical, discovery maybe.
>> Tim Wildmon: Well, when did Joseph Lister live?
>> Steve Jordahl: It was he.
>> Ed Vitagliano: 1827 to 1912. So he was a pretty good century.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, it was.
>> Steve Jordahl: He's born about the same time and lived a little longer.
>> Tim Wildmon: Except for the civil war.
>> Steve Jordahl: Except for that.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Except for a few things like that.
>> Steve Jordahl: That's right.
Israel has been bombing the airport in Gaza. Yemen has been attacking them too
>> Tim Wildmon: All right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. How do we get on this anyway? What do you got left?
>> Steve Jordahl: Let me just.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Cancer story. That's how we got on.
>> Steve Jordahl: This is kind of important. Things are popping off in the Middle east right now. Israel has, been bombing the airport in, Gaza. No, in, in Yemen. The Saha airport in Yemen. yesterday, I believe it was the Houthis, they believe, through a missile at, Ben Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv. And it barely missed the airport. but, it was thought to have originated from the Houthis in Yemen. And so Israel didn't miss. They went back and got there, the airport there. This is at the same time that Benjamin Netanyahu has decided that or has given the plan that Israelis are going in and the word that they're using is conquer Gaza. They're going to go in and occupy Gaza and stay. They're not going in and out.
>> Tim Wildmon: That is their country.
>> Steve Jordahl: Yes. Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. I say occupy my own country. I say occupy is the wrong word. But they're going to go in and they're going to, set up.
>> Tim Wildmon: They gave, they gave Gaza to the Palestinian people to self govern. And as long as they didn't commit acts of violence against Israelis. Well, they did on October 7th. Was it seven?
>> Steve Jordahl: And the years leading up to it too, by the way.
>> Tim Wildmon: We know what happened there. 1200 people died.
>> Ed Vitagliano: So the Houthis thought it was a good idea to launch a missile at Ben Gurion Airport.
>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, they're idiots.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Who walks up to Mike Tyson and.
>> Tim Wildmon: That'S not gonna get out.
>> Tim Wildmon: No, but also there. Also our, our, warships out there are, are fighting them too. yeah. In the go. Is it the, the Red Sea? The Red Sea and that strip. We don't have time to go in this, that strip of water there is so narrow. Yeah, if you call water a strip that leads to the Suez Canal, which is a major canal that's so important. It's like the Panama canal on the other side of the world, that a lot of our merchant ships go through there, and the Houthis have been attacking them.
>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.
>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we got. We'll see you back here tomorrow. Everybody have a great day. Keep listening to American Family Radio.
