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Tim Wildman: Most people talk to themselves inside their head

Welcome to Today's Issues, offering a Christian response to the issues of the day. here's your host, Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Today's Wednesday, April 30, 2025, in case you were wondering. And we, thank you for listening to afr. joining me in studio is,

>> Ed Vitagliano: well, it depends what you're going to say next.

>> Tim Wildmon: I think three people would.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, our three people joining me in.

>> Tim Wildmon: Studio or I was talking to myself. Head.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, okay. Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: but listen, but you want to be the voice in my head? Go ahead, be the voice in my head.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Listen, I, I, I, I say this to my wife all the time when she's talking to herself out loud. I say, you know, most people, they talk to themselves inside their head. It's called thinking.

>> Tim Wildmon: Then you, and then you find out where you're going to be sleeping that night.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: We're getting to the age where I, I, you know, you know, when, careful. When you talk to yourself, when you're younger, I guess you do it more loudly. but my wife now, it's, it's not loud enough for me to understand what she's saying.

>> Tim Wildmon: Murmur.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, murmur.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And so I'm always going, what? I'm just talking to myself.

>> Tim Wildmon: I do that, too. All right. Ed Battagliano, our resident psychologist.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Nice to know you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. All right, Wesley. Wyoming. Good morning, Wesley.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Morning. A lot of problems here, but talking to myself is not one of them.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, as you grow older, it does happen.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You talk to yourself, Wesley, because nobody else is listening. You find out.

>> Tim Wildmon: Fred Jackson. Do you talk to yourself, Fred?

>> Fred Jackson: All the time. all the time. In fact, I was just thinking I was going to mention when you were talking, we ought to start a program on American Family Radio. Ed and wife Ed.

>> Tim Wildmon: And that would be a great show.

>> Fred Jackson: He has got so many stories.

>> Wesley Wildmon: No more than 30 minutes. Minutes. And it has to be on the weekends because that would be just enough.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, Diane, give them an example of how you talk to yourself, demonstrate that to everybody.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The reason I talk like this about my wife is I know she is.

>> Tim Wildmon: Not listening because she gets enough of you at home.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right. And so I'm, I'm bold as can be, and I know she's not listening.

>> Tim Wildmon: It might get back to her. But anyway. All right, thank you for joining us on the program. Abraham Hamilton III will be with us at the bottom of the hour. And then Kathy Branzel, a president of the National Day of Prayer, which is tomorrow across our country. Kathy, will be with us in just a few minutes also to talk about that very important day on our calendar, especially for Christians, the National Day of Prayer.

Fred Kaplan starts today's show with a hug from Michigan's governor

All right, Fred, what's your first story?

>> Fred Jackson: I want to start the program today with a hug.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, Fred, that's awful nice.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's lovely.

>> Fred Jackson: With a hug.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, absolutely.

>> Tim Wildmon: The Canadian initiates hugs.

>> Fred Jackson: That's right. No, it's a hug on a tarmac in Michigan.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, that hug.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The hug heard round the world.

>> Fred Jackson: The hug heard around the world. In fact, the Associated Press story. Now, this has to do with President Donald Trump to celebrate his 100 days in office. He went to Michigan yesterday. Air Force One lands. He descends the stairs of Air Force One, and waiting for him is a big fan, tongue in cheek, the Democrat governor of Michigan, and her name is Gretchen Whitmer. Now, if you follow the news from day to day, you know, Gretchen Whitmer is not a big fan of Donald Trump, but she was waiting at the bottom of the stairs, and President Trump, being the nice guy, reaching out guy that he is, reached for her. And if you go to afn.net you will see the picture of said hug. And it's an awkward moment. I'm not sure. Gretchen Whitmer. We have the back of President Trump and we have the hand, we can see the hand of Gretchen Whitmer. I'm not sure if she's trying to shove him away or is it a hand that says, I don't like that this. But I have to do it because the cameras are rolling. so, they are political enemies. But she was at the airport to greet the president yesterday because he was coming to town with some pretty good news for her state. Number one, he was announcing that he is modifying those tariffs that he has announced, in the area of, parts coming in from other countries to the automakers. The automakers are very important to the Michigan economy.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: So she was there. Glad to get that news that those tariffs are going to be Modified to allow these parts of cars coming in from other countries. And also he announced that a national, Air Force base or National Guard Air Force base is getting some brand new fighter jets there in Michigan. So she was happy for all.

>> Tim Wildmon: We're going to war with Canada now. What, what's the deal? Michigan. We got fighter planes in Michigan. Get ready to take on Alberta.

>> Ed Vitagliano: No, I like Alberta.

>> Tim Wildmon: We're going to make them the 51st day, by golly.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Hey, let me add here. I'm looking at the, I'm watching the video here. The video footage of what Fred just described. She handled herself exceptionally well. It was very cordial. she was very receptive. So just wanted to add the video footage.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, it's customary for.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well yeah, but in 2024 the other team usually doesn't show up at this point for a lot of this kind of. Well that's the reason, Obama's Why Michelle Obama didn't show up.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's true. I mean you know there's Republicans and Democrats. There's a lot of distrust and dislike. and so sometimes governors of various states don't show up for events of the opposing party's president. That, that happens. I know that President Biden, then went to Florida after The hurricane and Governor DeSantis met him at the airport.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And then Governor and then President Biden smelled his hair, didn't he?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Or is that just different?

>> Tim Wildmon: He was talking to himself then. I think, I think Governor Newsom met Trump. President Trump back, during first, the first administration.

>> Fred Jackson: Well maybe it was the wildfires.

>> Wesley Wildmon: The wildfires, yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Yes. He met him at the airport and they

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So it, you know that. But sometimes it doesn't happen. But anyway, so good for her for showing up. Gretten Whitmer, she's the sitting governor of two, Term. Two term governor of Of Michigan. But the hug. I don't know. Do you in in the era of Me too. do you hug a female. governor?

>> Wesley Wildmon: There's 800 people watching, so I don't.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I mean I don't think there's.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I, I. Yeah, I'm just kidding.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. In the, in. In the hashtag me too era. I guess we're still in that. Yeah. Non, consensual does enter into office. decorum. But I think for politics I, I think ah. A hug is not.

>> Tim Wildmon: Will you hug Tim Waltz?

>> Ed Vitagliano: would.

Would Trump hug the governor of Minnesota? Oh, I, I don't know

>> Tim Wildmon: I. Would Trump hug the governor of Minnesota?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, I, I don't know, got guys can be. You can do a bro hug.

>> Tim Wildmon: I think you can hug a woman, and you can't hug a man.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, speaking about.

>> Tim Wildmon: I think bro hugs are okay.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right.

>> Fred Jackson: I think. Yeah. Trump just came back from the funeral of the Pope's funeral.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: And, you know, the president of France was there. They always. They hug trees. They hug everybody.

>> Tim Wildmon: Macaron.

>> Fred Jackson: Oh, yeah, they hugged.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, I heard it was cold.

>> Fred Jackson: There's huggy, huggy all the time with the Europeans, you know.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. And sometimes kiss on the cheek.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. That's wrong.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's one of the reasons we formed this country was get away from that. That's a part of Europe we don't want any part of.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's in the Bible.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't care. I don't accept that in my theology. I don't think everything.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Another with a holy kiss.

>> Tim Wildmon: That was for them back then, Ed.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Hey, you brought up walls. Have y'all seen the headline here at Fox? News? Wall says Harris chose me in part because, quote, I could talk code to white guys watching football and fixing trucks, end quote.

>> Tim Wildmon: What?

>> Wesley Wildmon: M. Then Wall said this at a, his rallies that he's going around called. Listening to her. He was at Harvard.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Subject away from AC.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, God. Now. Yeah, I was trying to save y'all on that one. That's. I did the best.

>> Tim Wildmon: Are you talking about the, the. I mean, I brought up Tim Waltz, the governor, which Kamala, Harris chose as her running mate, and he just.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Confirmed why he did. Why he.

>> Tim Wildmon: Because he. He was. He said she chose me. For what reason?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Now he's a man's man, apparently.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Quote. These are his words from yesterday. Quote, I could code talk to white guys watching football and fixing trucks, end quote.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I think. Well, there are men of color who fix trucks and watch football, too.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right. It's kind of a racist, but I.

>> Tim Wildmon: Guess she was trying to draw in the, white football.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Car. Car fixing crowd.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I guess so. I didn't know that was a voting.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's part of maga, they say.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So they. She wanted to cut into that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So Governor Shapiro of Pennsylv, he didn't get picked because he couldn't reach out.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know. Maybe he doesn't like football. You have to ask him. Yeah, I guess I just wanted that.

>> Wesley Wildmon: You said walls. I see headline and I just add comments.

Fred: President Trump was in Michigan to announce good news for Michigan economy

>> Tim Wildmon: This all started, ladies and gentlemen, with a hug that Fred wanted to bring up the president. In all seriousness, President Trump was in Michigan. Michigan was one of those states, those swing states that put him over the top. So I think he wanted to go show some love and appreciation for the Michigan voters and announce some good news for their economy. That's the basic reason he went there. And Gretchen Whitmer, to her credit, wanted to be, a part of celebrating something good. And that is things, that help the economy of her state.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And so that's the right thing to do. I also think, I know that there was. I don't know if we talked about it this week. You guys talk about the Philadelphia Eagles, some of them not going.

>> Tim Wildmon: We've talked about some of that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Not going to the White House. I disagree with that too. I think if you, if you win a championship in a sport and your team is invited to the White House, it doesn't matter who's in the White House, you go out of respect for the office. And I say that as a guy whose hockey team in 2011, got invited to the White House and our goalie refused to go because the president, was Obama. Obama. And I disagreed with that. You go if you're invited.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: So, yeah, I think Whitmer was trying to recover from another embarrassing moment. Remember she went to the White House a few weeks ago.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: And they started taking pictures, photographers there. And she held up a piece of paper.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh yeah, that's right.

>> Fred Jackson: She, you know, I don't want to be seen with Trump.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, that's.

>> Tim Wildmon: That doesn't, that she needs, she doesn't understand going to the White House, you might be seen. And she needs, I don't know what she needs. She needs some education.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Of some kind.

Tomorrow is the 74th annual National Day of Prayer

Alright. So tomorrow is the National Day of Prayer. It's annual. And the, president of the National Day of Prayer is Kathy Branzell. And Kathy joins us now. Good morning, Kathy.

>> Amber Brown: Good morning from Washington D.C. good to be with you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, thank you for being on with us. where do you, where's home for you?

>> Amber Brown: Atlanta, Georgia.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, well listen, thanks for being on. How long have you been president of the National Day of Prayer?

>> Amber Brown: Oh, I have had this incredible privilege for six years. I've been a part, of National Day of Prayer for a long time. Just as a prayer and a donor and then a board member. But I've been president for six years. But this will actually be my 26th national observance. So I am very grateful.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Now, Shirley Dobson, the wife of James Dobson, she was the chairman for a long time. Right.

>> Amber Brown: 25 wonderful years.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wow. yeah, well, so, Kathy, well, congratulations. And we, want, to know what's going to be happening. First of all, the Nash. Tell us what you want to tell us about the National Day of Prayer, and then we'll get into what you're going to be doing there in D.C.

>> Amber Brown: Oh, I would love. A lot of people don't know that it's a law. And so we are so grateful that in 1952, the Reverend Billy Graham stood on the steps of the Capitol and challenged Congress and the President to honor God in prayer in our law. And they took it so seriously that within a few weeks, we had a unanimous vote and President Truman signed it into law. So this is our 74th observance. And then President Ronald Reagan, amended that law for us in 1988 so it would be the second same day every year. So by law, every year on the first Thursday of May, the President must proclaim a day of prayer for our nation. And our task force, the National Day of Prayer Task Force was cast, to. With the Judeo expression, Christian, ah, expression of, prayer to, bring together to mobilize unified public prayer for America. And so you were asking about what's going to happen tomorrow. And our 19,000, prayer mobilizers, we call them missionaries across the nation throughout America, will be hosting tens of thousands of prayer gatherings all across, all 50 states, in the Virgin Islands in Puerto Rico. And then we have the privilege of hosting the Congressional Expression here, in Washington, and then our broadcast tomorrow night so we could talk about all of that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, where is the, what's the website where people can go and see where the National Day of Prayer event is for their community?

>> Amber Brown: Yes. So it's National Day of prayer dot org. National Day of prayer dot org and they just click on the gathering finder and click on their state, and it will show them all the gatherings in their state so they can find which ones they want to attend. We often have people that will go to several different gatherings, throughout the day. So that's a lot of fun.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So, I know we're having one here in Tupelo, Mississippi, where we are at our city hall, at noon. At noon tomorrow. And that's happening all across America. Ed, did you have a question?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, Kathy, of course. Thank you for being on with us.

Our theme this year is pour out to the God of hope and be filled

What's the theme? You have a theme every, every year. tell us about the theme and why this was, selected.

>> Amber Brown: Thank you. Yes, our theme this Year is pour out to the God of hope and be filled. And our, theme verse for this year is Romans 15:13, that says, now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing so that you will abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit. And so that came after a long period of time, in prayer and fasting. And I was just hearing. Hearing Christians talk about being hopeless. you know, things are so hopeless. And, and we're like, no, no, God is still on his throne. And. And the Lord just really put it on my heart to remind people where our hope comes from. And he is our hope. Scripture tells us to be ready with the reasons for our hope when we're asked and. And to share them with gentleness and respect. And I'll tell you, friends, we all have the same reason for hope. We just celebrated our greatest reason risen, and therefore we are redeemed as his followers. And he currently reigns in heaven at the right hand of the Father. And our greatest hope is he's going to return. So that is our artwork. If you've seen our artwork, is the. This beautiful, prophetic, painting from a good friend in the United Kingdom. don't let that get lost on you. Does that just geographically, but spiritually and, So that beautiful piece of artwork is a, picture of Christ return. The greatest reason for our hope. Pour out to the God of hope and be filled.

>> Tim Wildmon: Kathy, I sent my artwork in, and I never, never heard back from y'all. I don't know.

>> Amber Brown: Maybe next year. Fred, again, that was.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I just want to say, Kathy, on behalf of us all, thank you. Yeah, thank you for making the decision.

>> Tim Wildmon: I just want to know, because I tell my wife, please check the mailbox every day, see if we heard back.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You hadn't heard that. You hadn't heard that on an interview.

National Day of Prayer is tomorrow, and we want you to pray

So anyway, one last question, by.

>> Tim Wildmon: The way, and I want her to pray for our country.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, Kathy Branzel is our guest president of the National Day of Prayer. That is tomorrow, folks. maybe you're just hearing about it right now. It doesn't matter. If you go to nationaldayofprayer.org.org you can find out where the prayer meeting is in your area. Please take an effort. Make an effort to go and join that. But, Kathy, go ahead and pray. You said that you have been a prayer for a long time, even before you've had this position. You've been involved with the National Day of Prayer for many years. You've been the President, I think you said for, for the last six. But please pray for our nation. And I do think you guys are correct that a lot of people have lost hope for our nation because of the amount of darkness everywhere that they turn. Please, I mean, if you have any last words of encouragement. But then we do want you to pray for our nation before we let you go. Ah.

>> Amber Brown: thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. yes, I would ask, that as you go out and you pray at the local gatherings near you, that when you get home at night, we're going to have our international broadcast at 8:00pm Eastern Time. And so you can, watch that on our website. There is a link that will go live right at 8pm Eastern time. And, it's also on many of your favorite, television, Christian, networks. And we are so grateful for all of our partners that carry that broadcast. But it is a chance to connect with over 2 billion. We know, we know for a fact, just in television last year, that 2.1 billion people tuned in. Wow. for us last year and with us and, my co host, Tim Tebow, who is an absolutely amazing man of God, will be joining us and will be sharing on that broadcast. And so, along with many of your favorite, pastors, and then, some members of Casting Crown will be leading worship. And so tune in and watch that either with us tomorrow night in unity at 8pm Eastern time or at any time afterwards. We'll have that on our website over the next few months as well for people to watch.

National Day of Prayer president Kathy Branzel prays for everyone today

But let me do what I love to do most, Lord Jesus, we just thank you for being our, God of hope. And we just pray right now. Now, Lord, we know that when we pray that the answer is not far away. We know that even as our words are hanging in the air, we have already moved the hearts and hands, the heart and hands of God. And so, Lord, we thank you that you call us to prayer, that you say, come to me all who are weary, that you tell us to pour out our confession, to pour out our praise, to pour out our thanks to you, Lord, and to pour out intercession. Your word says, my God shall supply all your needs. And so, Lord, thank you for being our everlasting father. And so now, Lord, we pour out to you even now. We're not going to wait till tomorrow. Lord, we pray and pour out to the God of hope. And we do thank you that you fill us with all joy and peace. Not just a little, not a sliver Satan's been trying to convince us, the beginning of time, that you're holding out on us, but you are holding us. And so I pray for everyone listening that they will be filled with all joy and peace and believing. Lord, we profess our belief and our love in you. And we will walk in joyful, confident expectation. We will walk in our believing and abound in hope. By the power of the Holy Spirit, Lord, I pray that for everyone who is praying with us today, every listener, Lord, in all of their hurts, in all of their needs, in all of their love for you, may it be poured out as you fill them in Jesus name. Amen.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amen.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Amen.

>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you, Kathy. we wish you the best. We'll pray for you all tomorrow in D.C. and thank you for being on with us.

>> Amber Brown: Thank you for the invitation. God bless you both. Take care.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, it's Kathy Branzel, president of the National Day of Prayer. We're going to take a short time out right here. We'll be back with more news of the day, including a, visit, with our own Abraham Hamilton iii. Coming up. Stay with.

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Today's Issues on American Family Radio is hosted by Abraham Hamilton III

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, welcome back everybody to the radio program Today's Issues on American Family Radio. Thanks for listening. I'm Tim with Ed Westy and Fred and we thank you for listening Abraham Hamilton III was supposed to join us, and he may yet. But, he was having. He joins us on what we call the Comrex, which is a wonderful device that we use to do interviews with a lot of folks and makes them sound like they're right here in the studio with us. And, right when we were getting ready to go on the air, Abe's Internet went out, so.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And the Comrex is Internet dependent.

>> Tim Wildmon: Duly noted.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: So we're gonna wait and see if. If that happens. If not, we'll have a bone, you know, tomorrow, Another time.

Bees are very important for producing fruit and vegetables, uh,

So, Fred, what's your next story?

>> Fred Jackson: We're going to talk about the bees.

>> Tim Wildmon: Not the birds and the bees?

>> Fred Jackson: No, no, just the bees. It's a family show.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Just want to make clear.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes, we're going to talk about the bees. Because this is the time of the year, if you have a garden, like I have a blueberry bush at home. And, you'll notice a lot of bees around because they go from blossom to blossom. And if you've taken some basic botany or entomology, you know that bees are very important for producing fruit and vegetables, because the pollination effect.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: Well, Tim, you brought to our attention a story this morning that I had not heard. Apparently there is a parasite. Texas is very fundamental in the production of what they call pollination. You know, bees.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: that are used. And there's these bees sent across the country to produce vegetable crops, etc. Etc. Well, apparently, in Texas, a parasite has arrived from somewhere that eats the larvae of bees. And so there is a huge shortage among the honeybee people. and some of these have huge numbers of colonies and they're losing a, large portion of these colonies. So without bees, you don't get that kind of pollination. And that could have a tremendous impact on vegetable production for America this year.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. And, what's called the commercial operators. In other words, there are people whose job is to keep bee colonies alive.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And they'll even take those bees to a particular area if there's a shortage. And then they let. And then they set up the, the hive and then the bees pollinate in that area. But commercial operators I'm looking at an NBC News story reported an average loss of 62% of, their bee colonies from June to February nationwide. That's. That is staggering.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: and, and obviously it has an effect. And they're talking about, a possible effect at the grocery store. Because in Texas, for example, very important in terms of Almonds, fruits, vegetables, other kinds of plant based food sources. I, know that here, in the state of Mississippi, I think some of our listeners have heard us mention the Natchez Trace Parkway that kind of cuts through the state. and on the sides they usually have this parkway. Very lovely. they'll mow and keep the grass cut during the course of the summer, but they wait before starting mowing until the kind of the bee season for the spring is over. So you'll see on the sides of the roads a lot of wildflowers and clover and things like that. And I know that they wait so that the bees will have something to pollinate is very, important to our economy.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, I mean it sounds, if you don't know, it sounds like about.

>> Wesley Wildmon: It took about two minutes ago. Y'all are serious.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, yeah, I know it sounds, like, oh, we don't have enough bees.

This article says that honeybees are the backbone of the food ecosystem

>> Tim Wildmon: Let's move on to the next story. Well, okay. Yeah, it does sound like it. What kind of effect could it really have? Well, the way God made things.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. the bees are a necessity.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: To the.

>> Wesley Wildmon: They're called pollinators. They pollen.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. For the, for lack of a better word, the food echo. ecosystem.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, this article says that honeybees. I'm quoting here. Honeybees are the backbone of the food ecosystem that you're Talking about pollinating 75% of the world's natural supplies. This is a big deal.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, it's a big deal. It's worth watching this story and see how, how serious it gets because what the farmers are saying there. Would you call them beekeepers and, and the people who, the food industry who m. Monitor that are saying that we could see Wesley. Spikes in prices, because of the loss. The loss of the of the bees.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. I gotta think though that they're either in, in the process of. Or, or should have a parasite, spray for this. I mean they spray crop. They spray crops to kill the parasite. You mean the parasite.

>> Tim Wildmon: So I don't know. Do you know anything about that?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't. I do know that sprays can be dangerous to the bees themselves.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So I, I think they usually go for some so more natural avenue of attack. But I just read. I just found out about this today, when you, I think you sent it around.

>> Tim Wildmon: We put this story on our Facebook page. Yeah, put this story on our Today's Issues Facebook page. Go ahead.

>> Fred Jackson: The Yahoo. news coverage, of this, quotes a Dr. Tracy Ellis, who's an entomologist, this is kind of interesting. She says you can help wherever you live in the country, if you will plant some flowering trees, shrubs, and native plants. this. This can help the situation because the problem hasn't apparently expanded right across the country so you can have plants that attract honeybees. And, it not only perhaps helps the situation on a more global sense, but also, if there's a shortage of vegetables this fall, folks, prices are going to go up.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: So if you're growing more of your own tomatoes, whatever the case may be, that may help you down the line.

>> Tim Wildmon: Now, what. What is killing these bees? Again?

>> Fred Jackson: It's a parasite.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Where are they coming from? That's what. Next thing I want to know the story. Are they coming here, like, in a legal way?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Illegal mites, coming across that border? Joe Biden? No, I. I probably have no idea.

>> Tim Wildmon: China to Mexico, across the southern border, and here they are.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So now this is what. This is what Wesley feared, I know, would take a serious story and go in the left field.

>> Tim Wildmon: Don't. Don't leave two almonds and a Vitagliano alone. If you don't want sarcasm in about.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Two minutes of a story that already has plenty of.

>> Tim Wildmon: That is a serious story. Okay. It is a serious story. All right, well, we'll pay attention to that and watch that and see what happens there. But, yeah, it's fascinating to read about, what bees do and how critical they are to nature.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And let me just say this last thing, and this is the truth. I used to. Growing up, I used to stomp bees if I saw them. You know, clover or whatever. You stomp them. Okay. Yeah. My wife, after we got married, she said no. She won't let me. You don't kill bees. They're important because she now, I grew up city boy. She grew up in the country. She understood a little bit more about that. I say that just in case she's listening. Making up for earlier? Sorry.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. If you run into some killer bees, that's fun.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Then it's okay to take them out.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, that's true.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

American Family Radio welcomes constitutional lawyer Abe Hamilton on today's show

All right. You're listening to today's issues on American Family Radio. Abraham Hamilton, the third host of the Hamilton Corner, each afternoon from 5 to 6 o'clock Central Time on AFR. and a constitutional lawyer, Abe, joins us now. The Internet has been fixed, I think. Abraham. Abe, good morning to you, brother.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: So, the Internet, would that go out for five minutes or so?

>> Abraham Hamilton III: I don't know what happened. I was on and then I was off, and then I'm back on again.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's kind of like life, really. Think about it, Abe. You're on, you're off, you're on again.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right. You know, and Abe is like all of us, in this studio.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: there's lots of things we do understand.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: But when you get too technical.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, I'm like, with Abe. Well, it was on and then it was off. Then it was on again. It was kind of like magic.

Two judges in Massachusetts and Wisconsin helped illegal aliens escape from deportation proceedings

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we were. Abe, we wanted to talk to you a couple minutes here at least about m. The situation. There's two judges that one in Massachusetts, one in Wisconsin that took it upon themselves to, They had that. Well, tell us what happened in those cases.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Well, in both of those instances, you had seated state court judges who helped, illegal aliens who were going to be detained for deportation. one in the case in Boston, the individual had been twice previously deported, and the judge in Boston helped the illegal alien escape the courtroom. The same thing happened in with the judge in Wisconsin. albeit in Wisconsin, the illegal alien hadn't been deported twice. He just, illegally reentered one time after having previously been deported. In both of those instances, the sitting judges that. I mean, this is. This is hard to wrap your mind around, but the sitting judges helped the illegal aliens escape. The ICE agents who were in the courtroom to detain them for deportation. In both of those instances, the Boston judge, I believe the instance occurred in 2018, and the Boston judge is now facing potential, removal from the bench.

>> Tim Wildmon: And, yes, she was the Wisconsin judges again, a state judge. Again, folks, you got to understand, especially the Wisconsin thing happened recently, like in the last few weeks.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: The, Boston one happened a few years ago, but. Same thing. But what I found fascinating of. Maybe that's not the right word here. You have a judge, in Wisconsin. Again, this was. This last week or the week before last.

>> Fred Jackson: She was arrested last week.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Okay, so.

>> Tim Wildmon: So you have a. A, And this fella here who the ICE is there to pick up, he's. He's on trial for criminal acts of violence.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: He's in court for a criminal. Criminal offense in the U.S. yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: And so the judge, she. It sounds like something out of a Lifetime movie or something. She. She takes, him to some escape, door, you know, in the courtroom.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yeah. Through the jury room.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Too late. So he could. And sit here, like, go, go. You know, I'm releasing you. I, don't want you to be captured like. She's. She's aiding and abetting criminal activity. And she's a judge. What now, she, Has she been. She's. She's in trouble, though, right?

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yeah, she's in trouble. She was arrested. And so the, Wisconsin.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's trouble.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yeah. The Wisconsin judge was arrested herself, and charged with what, as you described her. Her aiding and abetting, in interrupting a legal process, which would be the deportation proceeding facing our own federal criminal charges now, in light of her efforts to help, the illegal alien.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, why did the. Why did. Why did these two judges do this?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. Were they family members? Were they good buddies?

>> Abraham Hamilton III: No, no. At one. The only thing that you can. I can see. I mean, obviously, I'm not a mind reader or heart reader, but the one thing you can see see is that they were opposed to, these two individuals being detained by ICE and deported. That's the only thing you can see, and it is, Tim, is. You are not exaggerating. It's literally the Wisconsin judge creates almost like a ruse with the defense attorney to come to the bench and to help him escape the ICE agents who are waiting in the lobby, who are waiting in the lobby for him. And, which is why she was arrested last week.

>> Tim Wildmon: Will she be disbarred?

>> Abraham Hamilton III: that is a potential thing. And one thing that's interesting, in the Wisconsin case, the Wisconsin Supreme Court, on its own initiative, started proceedings to suspend her from the bench. Suspended her from the bench on their own. Nobody brought the issue up to them when they learned of the arrest. And this is what the liberal Supreme Court is in Wisconsin. A liberal majority. They suspended this Wisconsin judge from the bench pending her criminal trial, her criminal case proceeding on the federal charges for obstructing the ICE agents.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay? So the reason this is important, to us, I think it's a teaching moment. Not that a lot of people didn't already know this. What these judges did here. This is the mind of the far left, okay? In this country. This is one of the main reasons Kamala, Harris lost. Now, not all Democrats subscribe to this, insanity, if you want is way I describe it, that is, allowing not having borders and not having enforcement, of your immigration laws. The far left, which is probably 50% of the Democrat party today, they don't believe in borders. Borders are, to them, immoral.

Judge in Boston and Wisconsin aided illegal immigrant in evading ICE agents

they don't believe in stopping anybody from coming into our country for any reason, because. And that's reason. When they're caught they don't want them deported. Okay, when these people are caught, and these are criminals, okay, we're talking about criminals here. We're not talking about, you know, just somebody who's here illegally. But, they haven't done any, any illegal activity in our country. These are people. And the left says, no, let them stay, don't deport them. That's really their. That's really. Abe, have I described the way these people think correctly?

>> Abraham Hamilton III: you have described it correctly. And it is, it's worth underlining and highlighting the fact that the only reason why these illegal aliens were in the Boston court and the Wisconsin courtroom was because they were there for independent criminal charges that occurred in America, in addition to them entering our country illegally, both of whom had been previously deported from our country. In Boston, the illegal alien had been deported twice before, and in Wisconsin, the illegal alien had been previously deported one time.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Abe, just a quick question before we let you go. so what is the interplay here between federal and state? Okay, so we've talked about sanctuary cities and sanctuary states. They are not obligated to call federal authorities if they arrest someone in a traffic stop for a state violation. they are not obligated to cooperate with ice, for example, and call them in if they find out that the suspect is an illegal immigrant. But in this case, you have a state agent, a judge, I guess, specifically talking about the Wisconsin case here, who. I guess this is obstruction of justice on a federal level. So. So you, you're not forced to cooperate with the federal government, and go out of your way, but you're not allowed to restrict their access to a criminal, right?

>> Abraham Hamilton III: That's exactly right. So this has nothing to do with a, sanctuary jurisdiction or not a sanctuary jurisdiction. In both of these cases, the federal agents were in the courtroom and the judges actively aided the illegal alien in evading detention by the ICE agents, thrusting themselves into the legal proceeding to thwart that legal proceeding or to obstruct that legal proceeding, which is in and of itself an additional federal crime. So this Wisconsin judge has been charged with a federal crime regardless of her state sanctuary policy or the city sanctuary policy or not. And this is why, frankly, President Trump signed an executive order yesterday, m. Starting the process for defunding these sanctuary cities and jurisdictions. But these two instances are beyond the scope of sanctuary city or not sanctuary city. This is affirmative obstruction of, federal law enforcement prerogatives, which is a separate crime.

>> Tim Wildmon: Abe, what are you going to be talking about this afternoon on Hamilton Corner?

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Well, this is something I'm definitely going to want to. Want to dig into a little bit more because the details are astounding. The judge in Boston, recognizing the criminality, voluntarily, agreed to a process that could result in her removal from the bench as well. And so that is pending in Boston.

New Mexico judge and his wife accused of tampering with evidence linked to Mexican gang

>> Wesley Wildmon: All right, Abe, let me mention this. I'm looking here. You also, too, if you may want to look into this one. I just found. The New Mexico judge and his wife were arrested on charges for tampering with evidence linked to a suspect with a, Mexican gang.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yes. I. I talked about this case on the Hamilton corner.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: This guy was actually arrested at the judge's house.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yep, that's right. Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Wow.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: The illegal alien was arrested at the New Mexico judge's house, and he is withdrawn from the bench.

>> Tim Wildmon: I presented some of these judges down to El Salvador. Who's with me?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm with you.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: We'll help them escape to El Salvador.

>> Wesley Wildmon: How about that one?

>> Fred Jackson: As long as there's due process.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, that's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Abe, have a good day. Thank you.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Alrighty. Thank you, guys.

Abraham Hamilton: Three judges are on the books for hiding suspected criminals

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. That's Abraham Hamilton iii.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Internet is back up at his house. Yes, at his house.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. All right, you're listening to today's issues on the American Family Radio Network.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Would you say.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I said. I was gonna say. Did y'all know about this one from New Mexico?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, because that. That's the Trender de Aragua group. That's the. That's the, gang from Venezuela.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: They're. They're bad dudes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: So that's a great idea.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: you really. If. If you're a judge and you were hiding one of these members out, you really just don't get your job back. This is pretty clean and obvious. I mean, I don't know what kind of trial process you need here, but.

>> Tim Wildmon: It sounds like something. You. You hear this story and you go, surely that didn't happen.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Where? In Wisconsin? This judge, she's like, come over here.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Hey.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, you can go out this door, Sneak you out, sneak you out, protect you.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And what's. What's. I don't understand is that when you get caught up in the emotions of helping a friend or family, you can sometimes do things you would otherwise do. But, like, where is the connection to the judge and this criminal for her to say, come over here. Like, are you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Are you just that convicted that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Are you? Well, some of these people. Listen, liberalism is a mental disorder. Yes. And I'm not the one who Came up with that. Somebody else did. Michael Savage or somebody. But. And so. And though these people, she. She thinks she's on a righteous mission.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: to protect this poor man who's, by the way, in her courtroom for violent criminal activity.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: And the person he beat up is sitting there, sitting in the court.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. And she. And she's like, go on, here's $50, God bless you. I don't know if she believes in God. Probably not, but you know what I'm saying.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The one from Matt just like going.

>> Tim Wildmon: Surely a judge would not facilitate.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Now we have three on the books for this. I wonder who. Who. I wonder if, if we had anybody who funded their. To get them on the. To get them. You know what I mean?

>> Tim Wildmon: Who funded what?

>> Wesley Wildmon: the three judges. Who is behind getting them elected? Are they.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's not like George Soros probably depends.

>> Ed Vitagliano: From state to state. Some of them are elected.

>> Tim Wildmon: And if it's Madison or Milwaukee, they got.

>> Wesley Wildmon: It's a George, it's.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, but the thing is, you have. Abe mentioned this in Wisconsin. You have the, judicial oversight in that state going on its own initiative, going after her. And the same thing for the Massachusetts judge. She's been brought up before the, the judicial oversight group in that state. These actions are so egregious. You have, I'm guessing, left leaning judicial oversight groups who are doing this on their own, they realize you cannot have. And, and in terms of the mentality these judges strike me again, this is a little on the judgmental side. Okay. But I think I'm on pretty good ground here. The same kind of mentality that leads people to.

To literally hug trees, chain themselves to trees so that people can cut them down

To literally hug trees, chain themselves to trees so that people. So that lumber. Lumberjacks, or whoever does this, Lumber companies can't cut them down you go, why? Well, this tree has feelings. Like you said, These people believe they're on a mission from whoever they believe in, and they do really ridiculous stuff. And this is. This goes on the list.

>> Tim Wildmon: All M. Right.

Fred: Kamala Harris is giving a big speech tonight in San Francisco

Next story.

>> Fred Jackson: Fred, have you missed Kamala Harris?

>> Tim Wildmon: You don't know Fred?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, it's been.

>> Tim Wildmon: I missed word salads.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, she's back.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I wish we could. I wish we could hear her voice again, though.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, yeah, we can't.

>> Ed Vitagliano: We can't.

>> Fred Jackson: She's got a. Well, she's got a big speech tonight in San Francisco.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: But it's going to be really late tonight. We'll all probably be in bed. So I. I thought it would be, good to remind you to play some special moments of Kamala Harris speaking.

>> Ed Vitagliano: In the past, which could have been. This is what we could have heard every single day.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: You got her. Greatest hits.

>> Fred Jackson: Greatest Hits. Cut 14.

>> Kamala Harris: You need to get to go and need to be able to get where you need to go.

Present culture is the way we express how we're feeling about the moment

The significance of the passage of time. So when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time. Culture is. It is a reflection of our moment in our time. Present culture is the way we express how we're feeling about the moment. See, what can be unburdened by what has been.

>> Wesley Wildmon: She gave us a good laugh.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's, that's, that's.

>> Tim Wildmon: What does that mean? What was she trying to say there? What is, what was the last one?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Don't look at me.

>> Wesley Wildmon: No, look.

>> Ed Vitagliano: She was asking me to get in.

>> Wesley Wildmon: The mind burdened by the things that haven't.

>> Fred Jackson: You want to hear it again, Tim?

>> Ed Vitagliano: It sounds like he was inspired.

>> Tim Wildmon: I, I, it was almost poetry. Listen to this. this is just.

>> Ed Vitagliano: this is poetry. It's like Shakespeare.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah, I needed this.

>> Kamala Harris: You need to get to go. Yeah, I need to be able to get where you need to go.

Ed Bennett: CBS doctored Hillary Clinton's interview prior to the election

The significance of the passage of time. So when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time. Culture is. It is a reflection of our moment in our time. Present culture is the way we express how we're feeling about the moment. See, what can be unburdened by what has been.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, I got to say, bless her heart, as we say down south, I, you could probably cherry pick me for a couple weeks, make me sound like an idiot, too, but, she just had a penchant for saying things. Almost every speech where you scratch your head going, what did she say right there? What does she mean?

>> Ed Vitagliano: and speeches where you go with things. But when she was talking off the cuff, it was even worse.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, you know, 60 Minutes is in trouble. The CBS. CBS in 60 Minutes because there's a lawsuit filed by Trump before.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's, it's, it's got a B for billion after it. Yeah, he's suing them for.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, what he's suing them for is he said they doctored her, interview, prior to the election because she did such a dare. Terrible job. They doctored the interview CBS did to make her appear more rational, insane, and.

>> Ed Vitagliano: To influence the election.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, and he's right about that. If that's what had. I hadn't seen it. I think, I think they're guilty, though. From what I've read, they're, Almost.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. Because. Have they not released the original? Yeah, they. They. They released the original.

>> Tim Wildmon: I didn't watch.

>> Wesley Wildmon: They released their original one prior to the edits. Well, out there, I've seen them.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's. That's in line with the media. Remember? Now they're saying, they're revealing now that all of them knew about the, mental decline. Biden.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: But tried to protect the story or hide the story because they didn't want to help Trump. And now you hear same thing here.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Now you hear individual reporters. We had one, I think might have played one yesterday or sometime this week. Individual reporters who are now acting as if they were concerned about media complicity all along when hardly anybody said anything unless you were conservative.

>> Tim Wildmon: Almost everybody's on a team now. You're either team right or team left in this country.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: you're on that team. You do all you can to protect your guy or your lady.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, no, that's true. There's, very little bipartisanship.

>> Tim Wildmon: she's a woman. What now? Sorry I missed that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It was stellar observation, and you missed it. That moment's gone forever.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'll try to rewind the show and see if I. What I missed there. Bless your heart, Ed.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, bless me.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey. We'll be back momentarily. Stay with us.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.

Tim, Ed and Wesley talk with Fred on top news headlines of the day. Kathy Branzell joins the program to discuss the National Day of Prayer. Also, Abraham Hamilton III joins the program to discuss the judges in these Sanctuary Cities who are helping illegals evade ICE.