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>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, good morning, everybody, and welcome to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network for this Wednesday, April 16, 2025. Thanks for listening to AFR. We always, thank you for doing that and we appreciate you, listening and supporting us. Good morning. Ed Vitagliano.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Good morning. Tim.

>> Tim Wildmon: And Wesley Wildmon.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Good morning.

>> Tim Wildmon: And completing the panel is Fred Jackson. Good morning.

>> Fred Jackson: Morning, Tim.

Wesley: I remember the Geico commercial from nine years ago

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we're all ready to go. Are we?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I'm ready.

>> Fred Jackson: We're fired up.

>> Tim Wildmon: Ready. you're born ready.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I was born ready.

>> Wesley Wildmon: You all remember the commercial, Hump day?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Okay. That was. Yeah. Can you believe that was almost, eight going on nine years ago?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Really?

>> Wesley Wildmon: It feels like it was just the other day. I know we got away. Yeah. Remember the commercial? Yeah, I remember the 2013.

>> Tim Wildmon: What was it? Oh, was that with the. That was the camel.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: What were they advertising?

>> Wesley Wildmon: It was the, Gecko commercial.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Geico.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, one of their Geico commercials.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah. You know the reason, it's being Wednesday. Yeah. And I just, you know, we, that was a thing for a long time. And now here, you know, Wesley, this.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Is, this is a sad moment for you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Because you are, you're getting old enough to where you start thinking about those kind of things, where you go, wow, that was that long ago.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: that used to be a real thing. Now, young people around me even know what I mean.

>> Tim Wildmon: I remember that ad now that you mentioned it.

Saint Edwards: Holy Week for Christians is Good Friday and Easter this year

All right, I wanted to mention before we jump into the news of the day, and it's all good people. You don't worry about good news news. We're going to bring you all the good news around the world.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right. And thanks for joining us, folks. And our show is over.

>> Tim Wildmon: That was the good news. Right. Our show is five seconds of nothing. Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: We do have good news this weekend. Resurrection Sunday.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yay. Look I'm not going to argue with you there.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yep. Yep.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's true. I see. Did spiritualize it pretty quick.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yep.

>> Tim Wildmon: You did.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Thought I was helping.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Ace of Spades went right down on you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Well, Ed and I were joking around, but, you quickly brought us back to reality. no, this is Holy Week. We talked about it yesterday. It's Holy Week for Christians. So we, will celebrate Easter. We celebrated Palm. Sunday. Celebrate Easter and Good Friday and the whole.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Invite someone to church this week.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's interesting that both the Eastern Christians and the Western Christians, it is Good Friday and Easter same time this year.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: There's a little bit different ways in which, according to the. The moon and the equinox, and then.

>> Tim Wildmon: And the Eastern. The Eastern Christians, they believe in the incense more than we do, I think.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. And. And, in their defense, the reason they do that a lot of people don't know is because, it says in Revelation, chapter four or five, talking about the incense of the, the prayers of the people being like incense before the throne of God. So that's. It's. It's symbolic.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's really where it comes from.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: I never knew that. I just thought they like the funky smells in their church.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay, well, they made. They may like the smells, too. That's where it comes from. Okay, well, that's representative of.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's good to know.

>> Wesley Wildmon: But I know that's the trivia Friday.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: A little taste. So anyway, a little smell. A little smell of Trivia Friday. Did that work?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So anyway, that's, I never knew that. I've seen plenty of Greek Orthodox churches.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And when you go in, there's always that it's hit you in the face.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: The incense, the candles, the ornaments and everything.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Like icons.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, icons. you're an icon, Ed.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Different.

>> Tim Wildmon: I haven't seen you in a church yet. But anyway.

>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, we're gonna see me. Saint Edwards.

>> Tim Wildmon: Saint Edwards of Final Talk.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Nobody pray to me.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Please don't do.

Wesley Wildman and Walker Wildman are leading two tours next year

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. Before we get into the news, I wanted to mention that, the tours we got coming up in, especially next March, we've got two tours. we got the Footsteps of Paul, which is, a lot of Greece. And. And you can check that out. That's the Footsteps of Paul tour that Wesley Wildmon and Walker Wildmon are leading.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And then that's a lot of Greece. You're not talking about the food.

>> Tim Wildmon: No.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You're talking about the country.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. That's Right. Yeah, that's right. They're going to Greece.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And going to follow the Footsteps of Paul. That's in March. And then, we're also going to the Holy Land in March of next year, again, 2026. Going to the Holy Land in March. We've already got people signing up. that'll be Alison, me, and also, Bert Harper and Alex McFarland and their wives are going.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That sounds like a great tour.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I've never heard of the Footsteps of Paul. A tour. Doing that. That's interesting.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: The first time we do it, and Walker and I will be, leading it. Leading that one. Yep.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's next March too. So here's the situation. If you want to go on both of them, you can. Now you'd be going from home like 20 days or something like that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: But you can do it because we've arranged for a flight after we finished the Holy Land trip, we've arranged for a flight from Israel to Greece. About an hour and a half, two hours probably maybe two hour flight, maybe a little bit longer. But anyway, so then the people can pick up with Wesley and Walker in Greece and start touring.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And the itinerary for both trips.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Wesley Wildmon: On our website.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. So the cost, the itinerary, the dates, everything is available at at wildman group.com, right?

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. Wildmon Group.

>> Tim Wildmon: W I L D M m o n group dot com. You can read all about it. Wildmangroup.com we want to go ahead and announce that, but Alex and Burke. Yeah. Are going with us to Israel. So we look forward to that.

Fred: To do those trips you have to fly across the Atlantic

All right, let's see, Fred, what's leading the news there today?

>> Fred Jackson: Well, to do those trips you have to fly across the Atlantic.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Fred Jackson: So we're going to fly across the Atlantic for our first story this morning. And it's a positive one.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. To beat. I like that.

UK Supreme Court rules that women must be born biologically female

>> Fred Jackson: In the UK, the United Kingdom, they have. We have the US Supreme Court. Here they have the UK Supreme Court. Huge decision this morning, the UK Supreme Court. And we have this [email protected], afn.net upholds the traditional definition of who qualifies to be a woman. It was a unanimous decision, folks. And basically the supreme, Court of the United Kingdom ruled Wednesday that the UK Equalities law defines a woman as someone born biologically female, rejecting the Scottish government's argument that includes men who claim to be women. Now here's Ed and I were talking about this before we went on air, here's the interesting thing. Who led the fight for women, that generated this decision? It was feminist groups. Feminist groups. Contrast that here to the United States. Feminist groups have been largely quiet when it comes to upholding female sports. They're not saying anything. My speculation is the feminist groups in this country are so tied to the Democratic Party that they are not willing to stand up for women. But this is an incredible decision. If you go to our story on afn.net, you will see a 1. I think she's a member of one of the feminist groups, and she's holding up a sign that says, fact is not hate. I will not call the man who raped me she. Your honor. So there it is, folks. And this shocks me. The uk Most people think Europe, uk, had been going far farther and farther to the left.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's what I was thinking.

>> Fred Jackson: This is an incredible decision, unanimous decision from the UK Supreme Court.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And I think the reason. Part of the reason, at least for this decision by the UK Supreme Court, is that feminist groups have taken the lead in demanding that women be protected, even from, men who claim to be women. And this gives political cover to. To politicians and to judges who want to rule based on sanity, but who are too afraid of the LGBTQ community. yeah. Having feminists take the lead, I think gives them political cover. And I think that's why you don't see as much like, on the Democratic Party side, you don't see as much sanity on this issue. Because feminists are largely silent.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Because nobody here wants to be called anti lgbtq. Okay. But if they're. If they can say, listen, we're just protecting the feminists in this country, want to protect women, and we want. Therefore, we want to. I think you get more traction.

>> Tim Wildmon: Probably going to get a big, shout out from our cheer from, what's the Harry Potter?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, J.K. rowling.

>> Tim Wildmon: J.K. rowling.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: She's been on this for a while.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: On the right side of this. And Martina Navratilova, the former tennis, great.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who herself is a. She's a lesbian, but she's standing up on this issue too.

>> Wesley Wildmon: so the T issue. Transgender issue.

>> Tim Wildmon: The T issue. That's right. So. Well, that's. That is. That is surprising. Fred, I thought, you know, like you said.

>> Fred Jackson: Mm,

>> Tim Wildmon: Whole of Europe, really. Well, not. Not all of Eastern Europe, but much, of, Western Europe has been going very much so very far left on these issues.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And it was a unanimous ruling.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes, it was unanimous ruling.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, go to AF. Go to AFN.net you just scroll down a little bit, you'll be able to read this story. And that's the kind of thing that people can read. They're not going to find this probably on, maybe on Fox eventually, but you get this kind of news, as it happens, basically at afm.

>> Tim Wildmon: Where'd you find out about that?

>> Fred Jackson: Associated, Press had the story this morning, but a number of news agencies are talking about this.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, they are talking about. Oh, they're talking about it because they're criticizing the court.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. Well, in connection to this story, the Attorney General of the United States, Pam Bondi, held a news conference about an hour and a half ago. The Trump administration, through the attorney general, announced this morning they're launching a civil lawsuit against the state of Maine. You may remember back a few weeks ago, President Trump was meeting with a number of state governors at the White House, and he talked about protecting women's sports. And the governor of Maine, who is a Democrat, got up and said, you're not going to tell us what to do. Paraphrasing there. Well, what happened in the wake of this is that the Trump administration has announced that it's, withholding funds from Maine's education system. Well, they're taking another step this morning. Even though the Trump administration did that, withholding funds, the Democrats, Democratic governor of Maine is still saying, no, we're not going to go along with this. We're going to fight it in the courts. Well, the Attorney General of the United States, Pam Bondi, took it up another level this morning. She's announcing a civil lawsuit against Maine, with regards to their, basically fighting, what they believe Pam Bondi and the Trump administration believes is a violation in Maine of Title nine. So here's a little bit from the news conference this morning with Pam Bondi.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The message for the people of Gaza, is going to be more of the message that should be sent to the people.

>> Fred Jackson: That is not Pam Bondi.

>> Tim Wildmon: She's taking something. Hormone blockers, something like that. Yeah. Hormone enhancers.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: But, anyway, that's not her.

>> Fred Jackson: That, that obviously wasn't her.

One school district in Maine is defying the Maine governor over Title 9 lawsuit

Now, here's the other interesting thing. Since the news conference this morning, one of the school districts in Maine is defying the Maine governor, and Pam Bondi says they will be exempt from this civil lawsuit. So it's getting down to individual school districts. That's what we're getting to now.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, you know, if you're, if you're going to defy the federal government and Title 9, you can't. As governor, you can't be surprised if school districts defy you.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So. Isn't that right, Wesley?

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right. You got it, Ed. I'm still, I'm looking up this story right now as we're talking about it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Pam Bondi, man, she is, her stock is rising.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: As far as I'm concerned, she's, she's like Batman.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, she's just like coming through all the time against all those jokers.

>> Tim Wildmon: A blonde Batman.

>> Ed Vitagliano: What blonde Bat. Batgirl.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: On the stage with Pam Bondi this morning was Wriley Gaines, who was praised for being. Wriley Gaines had become the face of this battle.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Fred Jackson: And she was there. And I tell you what, they also had some other women up. Pam, Bonnie had some other women, at the news conference with her who have been affected.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: By males pretending to be females in various sports. We've had it what now in, in swimming? We've had it in what, volleyball.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: People being injured.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Fred Jackson: I'm surprised that maybe it has happened. I'm surprised that parents of these girls who have been injured in this aren't suing school districts, aren't suing, in this case, the governor of Maine because their daughters are getting physically injured and they're being denied. And by the way, part of the civil lawsuit is they have to give the titles back to these girls who came in second place behind a guy. They have to give them those titles back. And one of the other things, we've talked about it before, these girls, because they're having to compete against men, are losing scholarships.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Fred Jackson: This goes well beyond just a philosophical or even a spiritual argument. This goes to the point that these girls are being denied things. And I go back to the UK Supreme Court decision. Why aren't the feminists in this country taking up for these girls? This is what hurt the Democratic Party in the election last fall. I think it was one of the biggest, big issues that they lost. The Democratic Party lost support. But right now, Democratic Party is not backing away from their stand of upholding, promoting men who say that they are women in women's sports.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I'd be interested to see how, the, how the WNBA would respond to this if they had. Because they're, they're, they're about as feminist as you get, you know, so I'd be. Yeah, that'd be interesting.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And there's, My understanding is I hope this is. Doesn't come across as I could be wrong. But I, I've read stuff that there are a lot of lesbians in the wnba. They may be siding with the T in the LGBTQ that, you know, kind of staying in lockstep.

>> Tim Wildmon: I would like to see that,

>> Wesley Wildmon: Maybe off the court, but that's what I'm saying that I, I, I, I can see where you would, where that would be true. Off the court. But then when you get denied on.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The court, you're talking about if they were denied a spot on a team because a, a man was a paycheck. Yeah, no, no, you guys are exactly right on that.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Then it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: For every college kid or high school kid or a team that has a man on there pretending to be a woman, that's a spot that a girl would have filled.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Even if it's a bench warmer.

>> Tim Wildmon: Just because some, this is an issue where just because somebody is lesbian, gay, or gay doesn't mean they're in favor of this.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Like Martina Navratilova.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, so.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And by the way it would put.

>> Tim Wildmon: It would pit them against each other. That would be in the LGBTQ movement.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And that's the reason I mentioned that. As I, wonder what would be like because of the high profile of the WNBA as it relates to, other sports.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. If you had, if you had dudes who said there were girls wanting to play, women's basketball, and there is professional women's basketball, and they do get paid. If you wanted a man to do that, then, I think, I don't think that would be acceptable to the WNBA player.

>> Wesley Wildmon: You think, you think maybe we, then we would provoke the feminist.

>> Tim Wildmon: Even though, even though a lot of them are, as you say, lesbians themselves. or that's, you know, that's pretty common knowledge. I don't think they would be in favor of the trans taking their jobs from them.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Right. And dunking over them.

>> Tim Wildmon: And dunking over. And I'm hurting them.

Department of Justice suing Maine Department of Education over gender discrimination in sports

>> Fred Jackson: We have that Pam Bondi clip from this morning's news conference.

>> Pam Bondi: Now, today, the Department of Justice is announcing a civil lawsuit against the Maine Department of Education. The state of Maine is discriminating against women by failing to protect women in women's sports. Pretty basic stuff. This is a violation of Title 9. The Department of Justice will not sit by when women are discriminated against in sports. This is about sports. This is also about these young women's personal safety. I met many of these women throughout the past weeks and months, and what they have been through is horrific.

>> Fred Jackson: There you have it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Listen, this sounds like a winner to me because, yeah, the Title nine discrimination is. I mean, that's a real actionable offense. And for the, for Pam Bondi to be saying that the Justice Department is going to be suing the Maine Department of Education for actively discriminating against, women. This. This could wind up in the Supreme Court.

>> Tim Wildmon: Contrast this with what Biden was doing. Joe Biden, the president then he. He told states, you better let boys play girls sports or we're going to take your money away from you.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Remember that one under Title nine.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Same thing.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. Because the Biden administration was insisting these, these boys and these young men are women.

>> Jeff Chamblee: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And now you're discriminating against these women by not letting them play the insanity on the left, to Fred's point, you know, harmed them in the 2024 election. There were, obviously other issues that probably ranked higher, but for the Democratic Party to be doubling down on this. Yeah, they're not. So.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

Wesley: Where can people watch Today's Issues on the Internet

All right. You're listening to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Today's issue is the name of this show on afr. And, where can people watch on the Internet, Wesley? They want to,

>> Wesley Wildmon: You can go to our own stream.aca.net that's our own stream.aca.net or you can go if you're wanting to watch, or you can go to our Facebook page. And that's, Today's Issues Facebook.

>> Tim Wildmon: Also. We're on YouTube now.

>> Ed Vitagliano: We are on YouTube.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Today's issues live until Friday, and then you'll probably do something on trivia that gets you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Now, I usually trivia against J. Ed starts giving medical advice.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's right.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's what gets us. Take trouble.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Anything. Just take out m.

>> Wesley Wildmon: You covered them up good.

>> Tim Wildmon: Gets us in trouble. Yeah.

Our offices and studios will be closed on Good Friday for programming

>> Speaker G: Hey, guys.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Speaker G: I think this would be a good time to announce Friday. Our plan for Friday. Good Friday.

>> Tim Wildmon: We believe in it.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. you're talking about. For Trivia Friday. Yes.

>> Speaker G: We're not going to have Trivia Friday this Friday.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Speaker G: But we are going to have Exploring the Word, which is the program from 3 to 4 Central. We're going to play their program and Easter program in place of Trivia Friday for that first hour and then that second hour. Ray Pritchard's got a special called Jesus the Cornerstone. We're going to air from 11 to 11:30.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Our offices and studios will be closed on Good Friday. So as Brent said, we're. And because it's a somber day, so it's A day of joy. But it's also a somber day. It's a day of reflecting and remembrance for Christians around the world. We're going to do these Christmas, excuse me, these Easter oriented specials on radio instead of Trivia Friday. And then a week from Friday we'll be back.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, it's not a day to be trivial. Like you said, it is a joyous day, but it's a holy day.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And so it's not a day really to be trivial. And even if our offices are closed, we're not going to play Best of Trivia Friday. We're going to have Christ centered Amen. programming in that, spot.

>> Tim Wildmon: Amen. You're listening to today's issues on afr. Next story. Fred?

>> Fred Jackson: Well, probably when we come back we will have a, story about New York Attorney General Letitia James. you remember when Trump was off for four years?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Fred Jackson: he became a victim of her. Many people say political nastiness.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Lawfare.

>> Fred Jackson: well, it's come around about full, circle 360 degrees because now new York Attorney General Letitia James has been hit with a federal criminal referral for instances of alleged mortgage fraud. Mortgage fraud.

>> Ed Vitagliano: The chicken have come home to roost.

>> Tim Wildmon: Also, Trump announced he's putting a tariff on her.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, slapping a tariff.

>> Tim Wildmon: Slapping a tariff on her. Metaphorically, yes, the tariff on her. So it's going to be double pain. Yeah, right there. We're going to be back and we're going to tell you about this story. You talk about irony with a capital I. Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: we'll be back.

>> Tim Wildmon: More about that. Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: All caps.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Will you take a moment and celebrate life with me?

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Today's Issues features Abraham Hamilton III on American Family Radio Network

>> Jeff Chamblee: This is Today's Issues. Email your comments to commentsfr.net Past broadcasts of today's Issues are available for listening and viewing in the [email protected] now back to more of Today's Issues.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey, at least for. By the way. Welcome back to Today's Issues on the American Family Radio Network. Tim, Ed, Fred and Wesley. And Abraham Hamilton III joins us now. Abe, good morning to you, my friend.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Good morning.

>> Wesley Wildmon: How are you?

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, all right, all right. So, I'm looking here. Who said that? All right, all right, all right. Oh, that's Matthew McConaughey. That's his signature, saying.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Is it?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, all right, all right. You never heard that before? I heard it, but I've forgotten who said.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. I'm not a huge. I don't dislike Matthew McConaughey, but I'm not a huge fan. Now, if you say I am. If you say I'm, like, a huge.

>> Tim Wildmon: Fan, if you say, I got a poster in my office, that's.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's disturbing.

>> Tim Wildmon: and then what?

>> Ed Vitagliano: But if you say, can't tell, then I know who you're talking about.

>> Tim Wildmon: Peter Sellers.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah. Did you know who that was?

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Had no clue.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You've never seen the. Any of the Pink Panther movies?

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Movies? No. Cartoons.

>> Tim Wildmon: Wow.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, I. I just. I am old. I'm just really old.

>> Tim Wildmon: You're moving down the road.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Most of the people that are alive in this country know nothing about the first half of my life and what I watched and what I listened to.

>> Tim Wildmon: I know, right?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Where.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Where is everybody?

>> Tim Wildmon: They're out there. You can hear them roar. They just roar so loud. But their back just went out, so that's the reason they don't say.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, well, that was too.

>> Tim Wildmon: So,

>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, Sorry.

>> Tim Wildmon: What I wanted to say.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah, go for it.

Today in the south, it is 74 degrees and sunshine

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't know if I was rudely interrupted or maybe I interrupted myself. Today has to be the prettiest day of the year for a lot of the country. At least. At least in the south, it is 74 degrees and sunshine.

>> Ed Vitagliano: This is also what old people do, Tim. They talk about the weather. Well, how's your knee?

>> Tim Wildmon: How's your knees holding up? And he's holding. Anyway, it is just stunningly. I don't know if you can't be anything but stunningly gorgeous, can you? Is that double.

>> Ed Vitagliano: No.

>> Tim Wildmon: Stunningly gorgeous.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I guess that's okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Around much of the. I'M looking. There's not. There's not a cloud of sky from.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It is beautiful.

>> Tim Wildmon: From Houston to Boston, from Houston, from Miami to Minnesota, there's not a. I've hear Lake Greenwood starting from the. All right, so anyway, well, I'm proud.

>> Ed Vitagliano: To be pretty day.

>> Tim Wildmon: Are you proud to be an American?

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Well, at least I know I'm free.

>> Tim Wildmon: He knows that song.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Knows that one.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's, that one. Lee Greenwood. His career came back to life when Trump.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Trump. With Trump.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Trump started using his song. Now Abe's doing the Trump dance. That song. Gosh. Was that. That songs 40 years old or so? 30 or 30.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know.

>> Tim Wildmon: Proud. Proud to be an American. It's a great.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't know how old.

>> Tim Wildmon: I love the song. It's got great lyrics. Hey, stop doing that, please. It's distracting. Abe's doing the Trump dance over there. Ladies and gentlemen. I know you can't see that on radio, but, All right, so recorded.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Recorded, in 83, released in 84.

>> Tim Wildmon: So I was right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Except 16 and 50. That's 41.

>> Tim Wildmon: 41. Wow.

>> Ed Vitagliano: 41 years old.

>> Tim Wildmon: 41 years. What? LEE Greenwood, look back back in the day.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Young.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. Yeah, yeah. He's. He looks a little older than you.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Just a little.

>> Tim Wildmon: No. Did that sound bad? I didn't mean for that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't. It didn't bother me.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I've been insulted all my life.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, Fred, we're about to talk about a story that is. That is. That is rich in irony. Rich in irony. And this. Fred, why don't you tell our listeners who don't know much about this, about who we're talking. Tell us what we're talking about here.

Letitia James hit with federal criminal referral over alleged mortgage fraud

>> Fred Jackson: All right. The attorney, General of the State of New York is a woman by the name of Leticia James. You may remember that over the last four years, when President Trump was not in office, Letitia James was driven by what she even said when she ran for Attorney general that she was going to get Donald Trump. Yeah, she does not like that.

>> Tim Wildmon: One of her campaign promises.

>> Fred Jackson: It was. It was. Well, Donald Trump is back in the White House. And yesterday, Letitia James was hit with a federal criminal referral for instances, plural, of alleged moral mortgage, fraud. First case, 2023, according to the allegation. Ah, they say that James falsified records to get home loans for a property in Virginia that she claimed was her principal residence in 2023, while she was still serving as New York State prosecutor. All right. So that's incidents number one. Number two goes back to February 2001. James purchased a five family dwelling in Brooklyn, but has consistently misrepresented the same property as only having four units in both building permit applications. And then, another incident in 2000. According to the allegation from the Feds, James attached several documents also showing that James purchased another property with her father as a cosigner, but falsely listed the pair as husband and wife in 1983 and 2000.

>> Tim Wildmon: 83.

>> Fred Jackson: Yes. So there are allegations going back that far?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, I know that, was reading a story and I pulled it up on Fox News where they were, Laura Ingram interviewed Jonathan Turley.

>> Fred Jackson: We have a.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Okay.

>> Fred Jackson: All right, all right, let's hear from Mr. Turley, well known law professor and contributor there to fox news. Cut 10. The irony is perfectly crushing.

>> Tim Wildmon: This is a person who prosecuted Trump for everything short of ripping a label off a mattress. As for James, if we apply the Letitia James standard that she, she created, there'd, be little question here.

>> Ed Vitagliano: This seems pretty straightforward.

>> Fred Jackson: All right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. So she. Hey, what do you think about all, this. First you heard of it?

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yes, it is. And I, I saw the headline.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: but I didn't dig down into the details of the allegations.

>> Tim Wildmon: And first, of all, have you ever heard a, somebody running for office, especially in a prosecutorial position like Attorney General, and you run for office saying you're going to get someone. I didn't even know that was ethical or allowed by the. I didn't know. She, she ran for office in New York and one of her proper, you know, among her things, these things I will do get Trump.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: That was in New Yorker said.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, well, it's Democrat.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yeah. No. So, no, never seen that before. I do think it presents some ethical concerns.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. I, she was also the one. Excuse me for interrupting. Who sat in the courtroom with her smirk and smile the whole time like she was personally overseeing the prosecution of Trump during. What was the, what was she, what was the case there that she brought against him? Business fraud or something, wasn't it?

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yeah, yeah. It's the valuation of, of, of wealth. Yeah. Of his own resources in order to secure business loans. As if she knows better how much Trump's properties were worth. But another complete non starter. And she's personally sitting in the courtroom. Now. I will say when you have high profile cases, you have prosecutorial agencies, sometimes the elected official for the agency will sit in on some of those cases. But in this instance, it was clearly grandstanding. grandstanding and furthering of our political position, in light of her campaign promise to, quote, unquote, get Trump.

>> Tim Wildmon: So who, Fred, again, who is, who's bringing these charges against, Attorney General of New York?

>> Ed Vitagliano: No charges have been filed yet.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. It's a criminal referral.

>> Fred Jackson: Referral. Yes. It's by the Federal Housing Finance Agency Director, William Pult.

>> Tim Wildmon: That is a great agency. no, I read their stuff.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Press releases.

>> Tim Wildmon: I read their press releases. I watched their YouTube videos. What are they again? The what now?

>> Fred Jackson: these are, as Ed says, referrals that have now been sent to Attorney General Pam Bond.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: So they're recommending to Pam Bondi that they investigate this to see whether or not this is prosecutable at the federal level.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Now, just as a kind of a procedural question, Abe. So, ordinarily, I would think this is a state issue, and the New York attorney. Someone in New York would have to prosecute it. But is this a federal issue? Because it involves Virginia as well and.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: potentially mortgage fraud, because you have federal, entities that secure mortgages. Also, maybe the interstate, potential future.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's similar to what she went after.

>> Fred Jackson: Trump.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's why the. You know, this is the old statement. You know, this is karma.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Yeah.

She may take a plea deal. I don't know. She may resign

And in that instance, you recall the federal Department of Justice declined any of those prosecutions.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: So she scoured the New York State law to see if she could use any of it to get Trump.

>> Tim Wildmon: If she's. If she did these things, claiming a house in Virginia is her primary residence.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Or representing her dad as her husband.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. She did those things over two decades. You got to resign. I mean, you got to step down. I don't know. I don't. She may take a plea deal. That's what I think. But.

Leticia James accused of federal crimes by Federal Housing Finance Agency

>> Ed Vitagliano: All right, so let me ask you a question. Okay.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It doesn't have to be a long. Just. So let's say. Let's say the federal government does charge her, with federal crimes. Federal crimes. And she winds up in court. Do you think Trump shows up one day in court and just sits there?

>> Tim Wildmon: That would be.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Hi, Leticia.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. I feel bad for you, Leticia.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: No, I don't think he shows up.

>> Tim Wildmon: So sad. I bet Don Jr. Will.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: You might be right about that.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes. So, anyway, so the person who sent this over was. This is one of those. And I guess the pun is intended here, but. But I got to say it anyway. People in glass houses don't throw stones. See what I did there with the Housing. Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I don't think that's a pun, but.

>> Tim Wildmon: But it's a Federal Housing Finance Agency that.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, I see. Oh, that's nice.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And I said, people who live in class.

>> Tim Wildmon: you don't throw stones.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: And you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Do you see the pun now?

>> Ed Vitagliano: I honestly, I don't see the pun, but I, I do like the, the comparison.

>> Tim Wildmon: do you see the pun?

>> Fred Jackson: What Clearly?

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay, are you, are you, are you putting on.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, I don't think it's technically a pun. You know what? I, I, I don't. This is not a hill to die on.

>> Tim Wildmon: No, I think it is. I think it's something we need to stop here.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I'm looking up definition.

>> Tim Wildmon: Soulmates, this literary editorial investment. But if you don't see that, if you're going to say you don't see the pun said here.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And this is why I say it's not a hill to die on, because you're gonna, you're gonna do to me what Trump is doing to Leticia James.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm gonna bring charges.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes. This is gonna, this is gonna, I'm, it's gonna boomerang.

>> Fred Jackson: You have a house of another county.

>> Tim Wildmon: Don't find pawn charges against you. I say, just act like Ed in here for a minute. Federal Housing Finance Agency is the one who brought the charges. And Tim said, people in glass houses don't throw stones. And Ed says, I don't see the pun there. So, anyway, we, all right, so listen, we'll see what happens here. But this is. If she did these things, she'll either be charged and go to court. I guess that's what he's asking. Well, asking Pam Bondi to Mindy to do. Or she'll resign. But I mean, really and truly, she. The fact that she would do these things and think they wouldn't be discovered when she's at war with Donald Trump, who now is the president, who has the Department of Justice and in his administration. Yeah. Anyway, I would say, ah, that's foolish. You know what I'm saying?

>> Ed Vitagliano: You talk about lawfare. You're not one against go against the federal government, which I. Listen, I, I don't, I don't like lawfare. I don't, I don't like the idea of using the full power of the federal government to go after your political opponents.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: However, in this case, I make an exception because she, what she did was.

>> Tim Wildmon: Absolutely wrong with their smirk and smile.

>> Ed Vitagliano: And what's good, good for the goose.

>> Tim Wildmon: Is I'm going to get Somebody. I'm going to get somebody. I'm going to get somebody.

The Biblical Bedrock Building is building on the authority of Scripture

All right, next story. Fred, wait.

>> Wesley Wildmon: We got there.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, go ahead.

>> Wesley Wildmon: For a specific reason. But now he serves. He serves full.

>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, the floor. The, the floor is yours, Wesley.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yes. We have an event coming up. The Biblical Bedrock Building. Building on the authority of Scripture. It's our activate Summit this summer. Other. Also known as a conference. Also known as a conference. And Abe is one of our keynote speakers. We, we wanted to invite him on to talk about it.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Well, yeah, I mean, I'm excited about this, building on the authority of Scripture. I'm looking forward to adding my contribution to the conference and really appointing, the, the attendees to the fact that the word of God is trustworthy, you know, it's authoritative. We can, we can bank on it. You know, there was a time where archaeologists as a discipline, would conduct their digs in order to try to disprove Scripture. Then after decades of that proving futile, now archaeologists use the Bible to tell them where to dig simply because of, the quantity and the potency of the discoveries that have, that have been unearthed that simply affirm and confirm the truth of God's Word. And, and one of the most amazing things that happened in my own life as I navigated, you know, the historicity, of the scripture, it gave me a tremendous confidence in saying when I open the 66 canonical books of scripture that I know this is in fact the Word of God. When you look at, you know, the history and the utter miracle it is for us to be able to hold, the Word of God with all of the manuscripts and original languages and the things that have been confirmed over history, it is a miracle that God has preserved for our benefit. And so when, Paul writes to Timothy and says that all scripture is God breathed and it is profitable. And it begins by identifying characteristics that are personally applicable and then it then adds into char characteristics and qualities that are externally applicable. And when you zoom out and recognize Paul is saying this to Timothy in a time of intense physical persecution against the church while he is facing execution under Nero and he's saying, yo, no matter what's going on with me, the word of God is profitable for rebuke. I'm in change. But you use this for rebuke. You know, it is a heartening phenomenon and I'm looking forward to be able to share that with the attendees at the conference.

The deadline for signing up for this summer's conference is Friday

>> Wesley Wildmon: Let me, before we tell people where they can sign up and then the deadline for signing up and A little more information. Let me tie in what you're talking about with some scripture. So First Corinthians, chapter 15. And this also ties in with, it being holy weekend, Easter this weekend. This is First Corinthians, chapter 15, verse 3. It says this. For this is Paul. for I delivered to you of first importance what I have also received. That Christ died for our sins in accordance with Scripture. That, that he was buried and that he rose on the third day in accordance with scripture. And the appearance of. And that he appeared to Cephas, Cyphas, appeared to more than 500 brothers at one time. And of course, James, it goes on to say, both of whom are still, still alive. Right. And, and over 500 people as eyewitnesses too. So, all that to say is that we can trust the scriptures it provides. And then there's a place in Romans where it talks about how it's used for, historical evidence too. And so, anyways, looking forward to covering the. These types of apologetical content. at our conference, we have an adult track. We have a kids track that go simultaneously, at the same time and coincides with the adult track. And so for kids aren't going to just be.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Babies get babysat. No, they're going to be learning.

>> Wesley Wildmon: They'll be learning. That's right. Kendra Knox, also known as Kendra White, who helped out with American Family Studios over the years. She'll be putting together the content for the children. So we know she helped out with Ryan and Frady's. A lot of people are familiar with that. So you know what kind of con, you know what kind of.

>> Ed Vitagliano: One of the producers.

>> Wesley Wildmon: One of the producers and the writer. And she'll be doing the kids track. So the cost is 75 for ages 13 and up. And 13 and up will be participating in the main course. And then ages 6 through 12 is our children's track. And any kid 5 and under is for free. You can find out [email protected] that's activate.afa.net and Abe is one of our keynote speakers. Ed, you've been on some shows and so we just wanted to let our audience know, our listening audience know that up until April 18th, this Friday there is a special, the special pricing ends after this Friday. So wants you to know, sort of.

>> Tim Wildmon: An early bird special.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Alex McFarland, Frank Turek, Todd Herman will also be speaking.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Excellent.

>> Ed Vitagliano: In addition to eight, nine, what's the.

>> Tim Wildmon: what's the website to find out more about it.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Activate.afa.net activate.afa.net and we'll put the link up on our, social media pages.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Those that are, wanting to. Not if you're driving and you can't remember that, just go to our Facebook page.

>> Tim Wildmon: I see where we've added, a speaker, Leticia James, for, ah, a session. A breakout session.

>> Wesley Wildmon: No, that's. She's a panelist.

>> Tim Wildmon: She's a panelist.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Analyst.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Where would she be housed?

>> Tim Wildmon: That's a good question. We're just, doing out the motel. We're putting her up in the Motel 7. Okay.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Motel 7.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. But probably the Motel 5.

>> Ed Vitagliano: She'll be at the Hotel Shawshank.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: Oh, wow.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, man. Anyway, all right, so that's going to be a great conference this summer. And it's very, cost inexpensive. Yeah. In terms of conferences, well, how much is it per person?

>> Wesley Wildmon: 75 for the weekend. That includes Thursday, Friday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

JJ is a phenomenal stand up comedian. He can't remember simple things

I could mention this. I don't know if this hurts or helps us, but JJ is going to be doing his comedy skit Thursday night.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, really?

>> Wesley Wildmon: I don't know if that helps or hurt. No, I'm kidding. J.J. is a phenomenal, stand up comedian. Stand up comedian. He'll be going Thursday night, so.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah. Is his wife, Melanie tells him he. He, quote, can't turn it off.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's true.

>> Tim Wildmon: So, it doesn't.

>> Wesley Wildmon: He's a standard comedian, so she may not be there.

>> Tim Wildmon: I know. Well, she. She'll be. She gets it at home.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: The three, three jokes.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Me and American family.

>> Tim Wildmon: JJ has three jokes. He'll have three jokes and then he'll. He has an incredible Rolodex mind.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes, he does.

>> Tim Wildmon: Of comedy. He remembers jokes, quips.

>> Ed Vitagliano: If I say I like Diet Coke, he'll go, well, here's the deal. And you come up with the Diet.

>> Tim Wildmon: Coke joke and he'll remember it. He'll remember it. But Melanie, his wife, says the problem is he can't remember what to pick up at Walmart even if.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Even if she takes it to him.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: He still can't.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yes, he remembers all the jokes, but he just can't remember simple things. So.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Well, us, being American Family association, prioritizing the family. We wanted to have a family night. So when we sat down and thought about it, we thought, why not?

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Hey.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right. you're listening.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Thank you.

>> Tim Wildmon: Dismiss. Abe. Now, Abe, thanks for coming by.

Ed: You gotta tell an older man, an elderly fellow like yourself

All right.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: You got five minutes?

>> Wesley Wildmon: yeah, we got it.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, you Got something else you want.

>> Abraham Hamilton III: To share that's a JJ reference?

>> Wesley Wildmon: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We actually did have exactly five minutes.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right.

>> Ed Vitagliano: This, this won't take long.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Wesley Wildmon: All right.

>> Tim Wildmon: Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it.

>> Wesley Wildmon: He's referring to in the hallways, here at afa, as we are, walking the halls, moving from one, meeting to the next or one radio program to the next. If you run into JJ, the hall, and he says, you got five minutes, he usually wants to give you a joke, but the joke usually ends up being.

>> Tim Wildmon: It's funny.

>> Wesley Wildmon: It's funny. But longer than five minutes.

>> Tim Wildmon: Oh, longer than. Oh, longer than. Yeah. All right. Well, that happens to all of us as we get older.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Right.

>> Tim Wildmon: yeah, we, we, we, we. We start talking and we don't realize how long we're talking.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: You know, huh? Am I right?

>> Ed Vitagliano: We think, and we think the people we're talking to are having just as good a time as I am.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's right. I remember learning this, 40 years ago. I'd go. We'd go, Allison, my wife and I, and we were, we were young people then.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And, so I go sit at her granddaddy's house, and then we'd visit with him, Drive two hours, visit with them, come home to her grandparents, and then we go back, like four months later to do the same thing over again.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: And guess what he would do?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Tell the same stuff.

>> Tim Wildmon: Same. Same jokes.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yep.

>> Tim Wildmon: Same story. And I would just laugh again.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Because. You gotta tell an older man, an elderly fellow like yourself, Ed. That. Excuse me? I mean that.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: I mean, he was like.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You did.

>> Tim Wildmon: I'm, sorry. No, I did not mean you. No. Yeah. He was in his 80s, probably.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yeah.

>> Tim Wildmon: Okay. And. But I'm not telling anything.

>> Ed Vitagliano: What are you gonna do? You're gonna say old man. You took me that last.

>> Tim Wildmon: Right. It's not funny. The third time you've told me that it's not funny. You got any more material?

>> Ed Vitagliano: Yes.

>> Tim Wildmon: You gotta do that to an 80 year old man sitting in a chair. You.

>> Ed Vitagliano: yeah, that's. That's wrong.

>> Tim Wildmon: that's wrong. That's. That's wrong. So I didn't do. I just laughed. I laughed. And then I'd come back four months later and I'd laugh again. That's the same jokes.

All right, uh, Fred, we got about three or four minutes here

All right, Fred, we got about three or four minutes here. What do you got a joke for us or. Go ahead.

>> Fred Jackson: Well, funny you should put it that way.

>> Tim Wildmon: That's a point.

>> Wesley Wildmon: That's A.

>> Tim Wildmon: That is a pun, I think.

>> Ed Vitagliano: That's not a pun.

Joe Biden spoke last night at a national conference for the disabled

>> Tim Wildmon: All right.

>> Fred Jackson: Joe Biden is. Joe Biden is back.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, yeah, baby. He's back.

>> Fred Jackson: He's back. He's back. he had his.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Like the mummy.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, he had one of his first public speeches since he was thrown out of the Democratic Party. Let's be honest about it.

>> Tim Wildmon: He doesn't know that yet.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, he was, he spoke last evening at the National Conference of Advocates, Counselors and Representatives for the Disabled.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Oh, man. I was supposed to go to that.

>> Wesley Wildmon: This. Humor me and repeat that one more time.

>> Tim Wildmon: Yeah, let's come up with an acronym.

>> Fred Jackson: It is a National Conference of Advocates, Counselors and Representatives for the Disabled in Chicago.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Well, arc. ARC is the first part of it. Arc.

>> Fred Jackson: Okay.

>> Wesley Wildmon: I don't think we're gonna get through this.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, what do you do?

>> Fred Jackson: All right, so he spoke there last night, and I tell you what. Republicans are afraid.

>> Ed Vitagliano: He brought the House down.

>> Fred Jackson: Yeah, Republicans are really afraid now. this is some of what he had to say. Cut forward Republicans. These guys are willing to hurt the.

>> Tim Wildmon: Middle class and working class in order.

>> Fred Jackson: To deliver significant, greater wealth to the already very wealthy.

>> Tim Wildmon: Who they think they are. It's never been this divided. Granted, it's roughly 30%, but it's a.

>> Fred Jackson: 30% that has no heart. Yes. And more. And Trump, is going to cut Social Security. He went on to say that, too.

>> Tim Wildmon: I want to talk to the chairman of the Speaker's committee for the conference. That's. That's who I want to talk to. that's a fair. We got a, 340 million people in the United States.

>> Wesley Wildmon: You should let us have a little more fun with this. Before you go to that.

>> Tim Wildmon: So who do we want to pick? Everybody. Just be our keynote speaker.

>> Ed Vitagliano: So we get Joe Biden.

>> Tim Wildmon: Got any ideas?

>> Abraham Hamilton III: He's.

>> Ed Vitagliano: I hear he's not doing anything.

>> Tim Wildmon: Joe Biden. Joe Biden. What a great idea.

>> Ed Vitagliano: You know, that's somebody who doesn't want the job next year, right? Picking this guy. And then next year they go, no, we're not. Dave's not doing, he's not finding.

>> Tim Wildmon: Our speaker, Joe Biden. You talk about bringing in a crowd for our convention. He rocks.

>> Wesley Wildmon: Energetic.

>> Ed Vitagliano: Those Republicans are idiots, and they're divisive. What do you think that is?

>> Tim Wildmon: That's an irony.

>> Ed Vitagliano: It's.

>> Tim Wildmon: I don't think that's a, a pun, A pun. Am I right?

>> Ed Vitagliano: You're right.

>> Tim Wildmon: All right, we're going to take a short time out. We'll be back momentarily. Stay with.

>> Pam Bondi: The views and opinions expressed.

>> Tim Wildmon: In this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family association or American Family Radio.

Tim, Ed and Wesley talk with Fred on top news headlines of the day. Also, Abraham Hamilton III joins the program to discuss how the Federal Government has referred Letitia James to DOJ for investigation. Abe also discussed the AFA Active Summit.